What is the worst part of wizard society?

InferiMorfin
September 9th, 2006, 5:44 am
In your opinion out of all the bad elements of the wizarding society, such as elf slavery and goverment corruption, which is your least favourite and why?

kerri
September 9th, 2006, 8:49 am
I think that the wizarding worlds point of view that their automatically better then the magical creatures of their world is horrible and sad. Like the way Amos Diggory treated the house elf in GoF while he interigated Winky. If I were there, like Hermione, I would have been mortified. I mean these people are Ministry officials but their acting like Masters with a badly behaved pet.

:grumble: Poor poor magical creatures.:upset:

Pat4891
September 9th, 2006, 9:33 am
It's the fact that some wizards think they are so important that makes them bad. Like the Malfoys, better than everyone else

Mugglewizard
September 9th, 2006, 10:00 am
I think for me is the pure blood nonsense.
Why is it there? i mean why can't they accept non-pureblood?

Belgarath2
September 10th, 2006, 9:11 am
I hate the way everyone, either subconciously or openly, believes that they are superior to someone else in some way. Muggles are seen as a lower class, as are house elves, centaurs, half bloods and pretty much everyone else. Even Ron, Harry and Hermione are guilty of this sometimes. I really don't like prejudice and superiority, espeically when those showing these characteristics are so quick to deny that they possess them.

dumbleedore
September 10th, 2006, 9:24 am
The discrimination against just about everything. But, I give kudos to JK about it, cause it's just like our world, only a bit more exagerated.

padfootblack25
September 10th, 2006, 11:43 am
the wizards attitudes towards muggles......
and definitely the treatment of house elfs
and also certain half breeds are looked down upon(sound pretty much like all the things the malfoys would do)

Magi
September 10th, 2006, 12:18 pm
1. Arrogance
2. Corruption
3. Slavery

Arrogance and slavery are connected to each other, but separate issues. Without the wizarding world's supremacist views about themselves, slavery of house elves would not exist in its current form.

gertiekeddle
September 10th, 2006, 2:39 pm
There behaviour against muggles. I share there fear that muggles would try to use their powers, but thinks like changing ones memory are just worse. They're not just unfair against other magical creatures. But, as it was already said, that is a mirror to our world.

Hermionew5
September 10th, 2006, 2:45 pm
To me it's elf slavery, because I am an animal rights activist =D Go S.P.E.W.!!

gertiekeddle
September 10th, 2006, 2:49 pm
To me it's elf slavery, because I am an animal rights activist =D Go S.P.E.W.!!That's great! :tu: But then you shouldn't call elves animals. :scared:

Hermionew5
September 10th, 2006, 3:09 pm
I'm not, but there's a connection between PETA and SPEW. =)

TheMagicMongol
September 10th, 2006, 3:42 pm
I think the enslavement of house elves is the worst. House Elves have been presented as very intelligent creatures that are enslaved by wizards and do nothing about it. As much as the characters make fun of SPEW, it is a movement that I would join in a heartbeat.

Dragonic
September 10th, 2006, 8:38 pm
I have to say the way that they don't progress the same way we do. Some aspects are okay, like using quills instead of pencils and pens, but some are not. Over time, we have realized that slavery is bad, and that not animals have minds, even if they are not intelligent. Sometimes I think that wizards haven't.

Erroll
September 10th, 2006, 8:56 pm
That whole pureblood business. I mean, if you can't learn to accept people in your own species then how are you going to learn how to accept centaurs and house-elves and mermaids and werewolves?

adam_12
September 10th, 2006, 10:31 pm
I agree with the people who said the pureblood stuff. I'm glad it's there, though, because it gives the Wizarding world a more realistic spin. If everything was hunky-dory and there was no descrimination, it would seem too much like a fantasy world and wouldn't be very effective.

62442al_Man
September 10th, 2006, 11:33 pm
Propbably the fact that they are far less than one percent of the human population and yet they know nothing about muggles and what they use instead of magic. That has always made me feel odd.. :p

mugglesrock
September 10th, 2006, 11:59 pm
The fact they are so similar to Muggles although they are a different world. I mean they have slaves, enmity, hate etc. And still they are so different from the Muggles.

wizard_1
September 11th, 2006, 12:14 am
It's the fact that some wizards think they are so important that makes them bad. Like the Malfoys, better than everyone else
Oh yep I'm agreeing with you there.

kuroi_shi
September 11th, 2006, 4:52 am
I think it's the discrimination, and prejudiced attitute that certain wizards have against muggles, and wizards who are half-blood or less.

Sub Zero
September 11th, 2006, 4:55 am
Their lack of knowledge on muggles. It annoys me how little they know hahaha

whitney06
September 11th, 2006, 4:59 am
I don't like all the pure-blood nonsense and the prejudice against different magical creatures. You would think that in such a small secret society such aas the wizarding community people would be able to look past small matters like these!

lupislune
September 11th, 2006, 5:39 am
Wizard society is very similar to Muggle society in that it has all the characteristic of a muggle society, prejudice, slimy politicians, and those who try to buy themselves to the top. Of all the things about wizard society that I think are necesarily unsavory, I think that the worst would be subversive prejudice against muggles ore half-breed that so many seem to have.

Hermy_007
September 11th, 2006, 5:35 pm
I think that the worst part of the wizard society is this pure-blood mania that some people have. Like the Black family...they think that they are above all muggles, muggle-borns and half-bloods. And the sad fact is, these discriminations get passed on from generation to generation.

Also, people like Umbridge who think of making lives of half-breeds miserable. She hasn't personally been harmed by any of them , but she feels the need to exercise control over their lives. Overall, there is just too much discrimation and prejudice in the wizard society.

SchmergoWeasley
September 13th, 2006, 12:24 am
I'd say that one of the worst things is how magic can be manipulated... it's so much easier to hurt people, because there are the Unforgivables (Which can force someone to do your will, torture them, or kill them), and things like Sectumsempra and all of the hexes.

huckleberry
September 13th, 2006, 10:34 am
There are a lot of things in the wizarding society that upsets me. First the Manipulation of the magic as it was said by the others, then the injust racism of the bloods and thirdly, the'res no electricity!

EBJ23
January 13th, 2007, 1:46 am
I don't like how pure-blood families have the belief that they are superior to muggleborns and half-bloods. They don't understand that they are no better/worse than anybody else.

amoeba_009
January 13th, 2007, 2:13 am
The whole pure blood > "mudblood" thing, just frankly annoys me. Then again some form of hate is evident in all societys.

owlpostgirl
January 13th, 2007, 3:28 am
I think it is sad that they interact so little with Muggles. There clearly is both a social disinclination to interact, and probably laws too (you'd think Mr Weasley would want to hang around muggles more...).

I feel like they are missing out on meeting and knowing so much about the broader human culture. There are so many less wizards than muggles. What about folks like Shakespeare, Bob Dylan, Thucydides, etc - I can't imagine not knowing about them. And I don't think it can be always argued that 'Well, the wizards have their own versions' - that's like saying just because it's Culture X it can't appreciate something produced by Culture Y.

I think that is worse than: the pureblood-ism, terrible legal system, slavery, etc.

Keakealani
January 13th, 2007, 4:18 am
Well, a lot of magical society is downright archaic, in my opinion. I definitely don't like House Elf slavery, but worse, I don't like the way they just do things a certain way because they have magic. I guess I don't like that they're so caught up in magic that they can't learn to accept the finer things in life, sometimes. (like plugs!) XD

RustyGoBlue
January 13th, 2007, 4:48 am
Laziness, I mean you never hear of anything even closely resembling a good aerobic workout... You would think they would all drop dead at 30 with the modicum of effort they have to put forth in even day to day chores. Not to mention the affinity all magical folk have towards sweets and rich foods. You can barely pass by a wizard without sharing some treacle fudge or a pumpkin pastie.

xFluerDelacourx
January 13th, 2007, 5:27 am
I think the worst parts are the pure-blood bigotry and the way some people like the Malfoys think their better then everyone else. Really its horrible.

Layla
January 13th, 2007, 6:29 am
The discrimination against Muggle-born witches and wizards would take the prize for me.

Grimmodr
January 13th, 2007, 11:51 am
I think JKR is dealing with the theme of racism throughout the saga, I believe that muggles are disliked by pure bloods if they attend Hogwarts, as it is their belief that only purebloods should attend. So outside of the wizarding world purebloods would surely not mind muggles, also i think House elves got a raw deal:no:

Lord_V
January 13th, 2007, 1:11 pm
What still suprises me is that wizards think muggles are stupid, and that everything in the wizardingworld seems so old-fashioned.
I think they're a bit lazy too. They think: why do the dishes with your hands while you can do it with a flick of your wand?
But the wizard society should be more interested in muggles and what they have found out about the world. Personally, I would be like mr. Weasley, wanting to find out about how airplanes stay airborne (of course I do know:P).
Being more interested in the muggle-society would make things easier for wizards; they could fit in, go to normal party's, take the train etc.
Plus, they might prevend the wizard-society from dying out (okey, maybe a bit exaggerated :P)

Dan21
January 14th, 2007, 4:44 pm
There are a lot of parallels to our world with corruption, slavery, and discrimination. The wizarding world has the same problems we do, even if they're a little different in details.

I guess the worst for me is discrimination against Muggle-borns, Half-bloods, and magical creatures.

JimmyPotter
January 14th, 2007, 5:54 pm
I think that the pure blood mania does have its parallels in real-life society, where in some places biracial children have been killed in the name of racial purity, even though everyone ultimately has African origins.

However, the discrimination does go the other way as well. The Dursleys have much the same view of wizards that pure-blood supremacists have of Muggles and Muggleborns.

Whatever one may think of house-elf slavery, I do have to question Hermione's methods. In OOTP she was trying to trick the house elves into touching articles of clothing, thus setting themselves free. Forcing someone to be free is an oxymoron.

voguexmomentsx3
January 14th, 2007, 6:31 pm
I think the worst part of wizard society is the discrimination between the wizards and the other magical creatures. Wizards passed laws preventing anyone whose is a werewolf from getting jobs, they don't respect any of the trolls or any other creatures. I think most, not all, wizards are scared of what can harm them, therefore they try to take of it themselves by hurting anything that's different from themselves.

weasleygirl93
January 14th, 2007, 6:54 pm
I think that the problems in Wizard Society are the exact same problems we face in todays society. Government Corruption, racism, and humans thinking that other life doesn't matter are the worst for me.

ps...wayy off topic...but post #200 for me! whoohoo!:tu: :clap:

YellowRose
January 14th, 2007, 7:09 pm
The many deaths and unexplained dissapearances. Just like in the real world I guess.

kluvhp
January 14th, 2007, 7:12 pm
I think unfair discrimination is the biggest wizarding turn-off for me.

Well, actually now that I think about it, at the point in wizarding time that we are right now, the worst part would have to be Voldemort. But overall, generally, I'd say discrimination.

muggle87423
February 1st, 2007, 12:32 am
I think probably blood discrimination...like how the Malfoys and other people think that everyone who isn't a pureblood (and blood traitors) don't even deserve to live, or be educated with them...I think that's pretty bad.

Spirit
February 1st, 2007, 4:04 am
I also think the worst part of the wizarding world is the discrimination. And they have a lot of different groups that they discriminate against. We've seen characters discriminate against muggles, muggle-borns, half-bloods, house elves, giants, half-giants, and werewolves. I think there might be even more discrimination in the wizarding world than in our world.

MrVirtuous
February 1st, 2007, 7:04 am
The Pumpkin Juice!! I mean whats the deal with that. :lol:

kerri
February 1st, 2007, 7:35 am
I would have to say they have alot of prejudice amongst anyone whose not of magical blood. Even though their are the rare few like Harry, Dumbeldore and the Weasleys that show little prejudice ,they still see nothing wrong with enslaving house elves.

On an entirely differnet point, the wizarding commuinty on a whole seems to be about a century behind in their way of life. I dont know, Id still be a witch if I could!:lol:

Mad_Ravenclaw
February 1st, 2007, 9:29 am
Just like most people here I have to say the prejudices and discrimination.
Every single individual seem to have prejudices toward someone else. The discrimination is constant, toward so many different people/creatures and at so many different levels.
ANd their government is corrupted.
Wait... hey! they're just like us!