Baseball Thread

Wow no matches. Okay I belive the season is starting up isin't? Anyway yep heres the place to discusse baseball.

The Mets won the game to day 5 to 6.

The Mets won the game to day 5 to 6.

I didn't watch all i know is that the NYC won the Tigers:clap:

Wow no matches. Okay I belive the season is starting up isin't? Anyway yep heres the place to discusse baseball.
I can't belive I didn't notice this earlyer but the season isn't begning, infact it ended on October 1st, but the playoff's are begning.

I can't belive I didn't notice this earlyer but the season isn't begning, infact it ended on October 1st, but the playoff's are begning.

Oh yeah playoffs sorry I get confused. I didn't watch the game today what happened(10/06/06)

you didn't say which game you were interested in. The Tigers have tied up their series with the Yankees as it moves to Detroit. The Cards are two up on the Padres and can clinch it today (right now it's 2-0 SD in the 4th). I dodn't really have a favorite although I really don't want both the Yanks and the Mets to win, I want smoe more diversity than a "subway" series......AW

you didn't say which game you were interested in. The Tigers have tied up their series with the Yankees as it moves to Detroit. The Cards are two up on the Padres and can clinch it today (right now it's 2-0 SD in the 4th). I dodn't really have a favorite although I really don't want both the Yanks and the Mets to win, I want smoe more diversity than a "subway" series......AW

I want the Yanks or Angels to win. I'm more into Ice Hockey and just started watching BaseBall. SO really don't know. I've always heard of the Yankees and even bought some stuff so I like the Yankess in other words. Padres are well um...........
Yep so cool. Oh mean so who has 2 the Padres?

Yeah I'm a Nat's fan but we're way out so I'll root for the cardinals.

Yeah I'm a Nat's fan but we're way out so I'll root for the cardinals.

Okay how do you feel about the Yankees or Angels I love them both!!!

I hate the Yankees. The angels are okay but they're out.

I hate the Yankees. The angels are okay but they're out.

Oh no Yankee fan okay. Angels rule but it sad that there out............

Anyone share in my misery of living in a city with a deplorable ball club?

I'm from Dallas, home of the Rangers. :(

Anyone share in my misery of living in a city with a deplorable ball club?

I'm from Dallas, home of the Rangers. :(

Who are the Rangers I just got into BaseBall and don't know a lot of it.

Go A's! Yeah, that's it :)

Go A's! Yeah, that's it :)

You like the angels?

Who are the Rangers I just got into BaseBall and don't know a lot of it.

http://www.wesellsports.com/images/mlb%202006%20wall%20rangers.jpg

I'm not surpirised you've never heard of them. They're consitsantly one of the worst clubs in the major league. Nonetheless, GO RANGERS!!!!

http://www.wesellsports.com/images/mlb%202006%20wall%20rangers.jpg

I'm not surpirised you've never heard of them. They're consitsantly one of the worst clubs in the major league. Nonetheless, GO RANGERS!!!!
Oh okay.:)

LETS GO OAKLAND

i can't beleive we FINALLY got past the first round,and eric chavez had a luna lovegood,unconfortable truth moment!

he said after winning:"Talent-wise, this is one of the least-talented teams I have even been on and participated in the playoffs."


yep,no hudson,muler,tejada,giambi,damon,dye etc

this team has MARCO SCUTARO!!!

LETS GO OAKLAND

i can't beleive we FINALLY got past the first round,and eric chavez had a luna lovegood,unconfortable truth moment!

he said after winning:"Talent-wise, this is one of the least-talented teams I have even been on and participated in the playoffs."


yep,no hudson,muler,tejada,giambi,damon,dye etc

this team has MARCO SCUTARO!!!

I'm confused...............

Yankees lost:( 3-8
Mets won:shrug: 9-5

Yankees lost:( 3-8
Mets won:shrug: 9-5

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! How could the Yanks loose on me!!!
Who did they loose to?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! How could the Yanks loose on me!!!
Who did they loose to?

Tigers.

Tigers.

THATS EVEN WORSE!!!! NOOOOOOO!!!
I wanted them to beat the tigers just like they did before I belive it was 6 to 0.
Come on YANKEES!!!!

Haha, no I like the Oakland A's as in the Oakland Athletics... not the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim or whatever the heck they're called now. Jedi Girl, why are you confused? I want to help you but your confusion is confusing me :)

Yeah Tigers!!!

Yankees lost :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble:
:upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:
Boo Tigers!

Yeah Tigers!!!

Yep, Go Tigers!!

Best of Luck against the A's!

I believe in you guys, Hope springs Eternal :)!

Keep up the awesome job!! :clap: :cool:

LETS GO OAKLAND

i can't beleive we FINALLY got past the first round,and eric chavez had a luna lovegood,unconfortable truth moment!

he said after winning:"Talent-wise, this is one of the least-talented teams I have even been on and participated in the playoffs."


yep,no hudson,muler,tejada,giambi,damon,dye etc

this team has MARCO SCUTARO!!!

THE SWINGIN A's!!

I've always liked the A's, even though I'm a Rangers homer.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/_photos/2004-06-02-inside-chavez.jpg
Eric Chavez is so cool.

Yankees lost :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble: :grumble:
:upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:
Boo Tigers!

Yeah Yanks fan. Okay the Yankees are out and so are the Dogers I guess I can still go for oakland I hope thats right i think the game is on right now.

Haha, no I like the Oakland A's as in the Oakland Athletics... not the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim or whatever the heck they're called now. Jedi Girl, why are you confused? I want to help you but your confusion is confusing me :)

I don't know why i'm confused LOL.

Yep, Go Tigers!!

Best of Luck against the A's!

I believe in you guys, Hope springs Eternal :)!

Keep up the awesome job!! :clap: :cool:

You and jv187 must me Tiger fans I'm guessing. Your sig is good.

THE SWINGIN A's!!

I've always liked the A's, even though I'm a Rangers homer.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/_photos/2004-06-02-inside-chavez.jpg
Eric Chavez is so cool.

Are the A's the Angels?

The A's are the Oakland Athletics :)

The A's are the Oakland Athletics :)

Oh okay I thought the A's were the Angels.:)

I think that was the source of all your confusion :)

I think that was the source of all your confusion :)

:lol: Probally I'm a fan of
Yankees
Angels
Dogers
Dimaond Backs
Cubs(I don't even know if that is a team is it?)

Cubs(I don't even know if that is a team is it?)

lol,yeah they're a known team because they never win,they havn't won in 100 years,but their fans are very loyal.

and the oakland A's are the rivals of the angels,so normally,i'm supposed to hate you,but since you like harry potter,i'll forgive you lol :lol:

lol,yeah they're a known team because they never win,they havn't won in 100 years,but their fans are very loyal.

and the oakland A's are the rivals of the angels,so normally,i'm supposed to hate you,but since you like harry potter,i'll forgive you lol :lol:

:lol: Okay go ANGELS!!!!

The game wasen't on last night 10/9/06 who won?

:lol: Okay go ANGELS!!!!

The game wasen't on last night 10/9/06 who won?

There was no games last night. ALCS starts tonight. A's and Tigers.

There was no games last night. ALCS starts tonight. A's and Tigers.

I know the Simpsons were on.
*turns on tv for the game*

So far Tigers have 5 and the A's have 0 :(

So far Tigers have 5 and the A's have 0

YEAH TIGERS...LETS KEEP IT UP!!!

YEAH TIGERS...LETS KEEP IT UP!!!

No way you must be a Tigers fan. I'm a Yanks fan and mad because the Tigers won them NOOOO!!!

The Tigers shouldnt have any trouble defeating the A's. The NL is interesting since if the Cardinals are on then they are great.

The Tigers shouldnt have any trouble defeating the A's. The NL is interesting since if the Cardinals are on then they are great.

Confused major confusion
Whats the NL?

Who one I think the game is over MTT and were are the only ones who have the same time so far that I know of.

Whats the NL?

National League...as in the American League and National League

Lets hope the Tigers can win again tonight!!!

Yeah Yanks fan. Okay the Yankees are out and so are the Dogers I guess I can still go for oakland I hope thats right i think the game is on right now.



I don't know why i'm confused LOL.



You and jv187 must me Tiger fans I'm guessing. Your sig is good.


Are the A's the [B]Angels?

Thanks, glad that you like my sig :)... no the A's are the Athletics.

The big news in baseball now is Corey Lidle's passing. For those of you that haven't heard Corey Lidle a Yankee's pitcher died in a plane crash in New York earlier today. This is obviously a very sad day for baseball and I wouldnt be suprised if today's games were cancelled.

Thanks, glad that you like my sig :)... no the A's are the Athletics.

Yep I figured that out. OKL A's right? There playing today.

WOW SO HAPPY THE DAMN YANKEES ARE GONE !!!!!! YAY EVERYONE CELEBRATE !!!!!!...... if only the BoSox had made the playoffs.....

WOW SO HAPPY THE DAMN YANKEES ARE GONE !!!!!! YAY EVERYONE CELEBRATE !!!!!!...... if only the BoSox had made the playoffs.....

Of course all Red Sox were born to hate the Yanks. Come On Yanks lets try this next year. I'm taking your a Sox fan. I'm not Celebrating:lol: Were rivals but oh well. LOL i like the Sox too. But LOVE the YANKS!!!

lol mhm damn straight im a bosox fan ahaha..... o and did ya hear corey lidel (or however you spells it) hes a yanks picher died today, his single engine plane flew into a high rise...sad... o and oak fans det's up 7-4 in the 6th

lol mhm damn straight im a bosox fan ahaha..... o and did ya hear corey lidel (or however you spells it) hes a yanks picher died today, his single engine plane flew into a high rise...sad... o and oak fans det's up 7-4 in the 6th

I know were the A's are loosing:grumble: but um yep that is so sad. I'm new to this Baseball stuff so yeah.

Can't owl you oh well you should try pitchside.

National League...as in the American League and National League

Lets hope the Tigers can win again tonight!!!

Your getting your wish so far.

you cant that surprising i can send one to myself lol... and 7-4 in the 7th now

you cant that surprising i can send one to myself lol... and 7-4 in the 7th now

Man we are loosing nope we lost:grumble:

Of course all Red Sox were born to hate the Yanks. Come On Yanks lets try this next year. I'm taking your a Sox fan. I'm not Celebrating:lol: Were rivals but oh well. LOL i like the Sox too. But LOVE the YANKS!!!

I hate to disappoint you, but you do NOT love the Yankees. The first requirement for being a Yankees fan is you must hate the Red Sox, and vice versa. Its just been a fact of life since the Yankees moved to New York in 1903. If you want to become a Yankees fan, you're going to have to reevaluate your opinion of the Red Sox. As for me, I hate both of them. The Cubs are going all the way next year! lol I've been saying that for years, but it has to happen eventually.

I hate to disappoint you, but you do NOT love the Yankees. The first requirement for being a Yankees fan is you must hate the Red Sox, and vice versa. Its just been a fact of life since the Yankees moved to New York in 1903. If you want to become a Yankees fan, you're going to have to reevaluate your opinion of the Red Sox. As for me, I hate both of them. The Cubs are going all the way next year! lol I've been saying that for years, but it has to happen eventually.
Um okay. But I can't hate the yanks i have to have a back up plan. Lets face it I like the Cubs but we never win.

Damn Sox have sent the free agent market crazy with their stupid bid of $51 100 000 for D-Mat. They can never use the payrole excuse now against the Yankees! The Dodgers crazily over spending juan pierre a .330 OBP guy. Carlos Lee getting $100 000 000 and Sorriano $132 000 000 stupid.

Baseball is one of the best sports in the world. I can't think of anything better, except for maybe football (soccer). I can't get enough of it. If this is a repeat of a thread, shut it down plz.

Huge fan of Boston Red Sox. Daisuke is going to be the Cy Young Award winner! Dice-K is the biggest sensation to come from japan, since sushi

You would think that with my screenname being baseballblondie I'd have found this thread before now. But seeing as I spend most of my time on this site in Flourish and Blotts, I must admit that this thread has passed me by.

I missed the Series this year thanks to Grad School. Well, last year I was in grad school as well, but live in a city that had caught World Series fever. My favorite team is the Houston Astros. I've loved them from way back in the 80's-90's when they didn't exactly know how to win. I own a fantasy team. Good times.

I'm so happy right now,even if i'm an A's fan and we've lost 2 big name free agents,that's part of being an A's fan,happens every year.

I'm happy for Zito,why the hell the giants offered him so much money (7years/126million) i'll never know.

I'm alarmed by the amount of money being spent currently to siign players. We've seen 2 deals that were 100 million+ and we've seen probably 20 with players getting at least 10 million a year. As much of a huge sports fan as I am this is completely riddiculous and has to stop. Guys with lifetime records below .500 and E.R.A.'s over 4.50 and Averages under .275 are going for 11, 12 million a year. I find it disgusting, especially since pitchers only pitch every 5 games.

I'm alarmed by the amount of money being spent currently to siign players. We've seen 2 deals that were 100 million+ and we've seen probably 20 with players getting at least 10 million a year. As much of a huge sports fan as I am this is completely riddiculous and has to stop. Guys with lifetime records below .500 and E.R.A.'s over 4.50 and Averages under .275 are going for 11, 12 million a year. I find it disgusting, especially since pitchers only pitch every 5 games.

A starting pitcher only pitches every 5 games, but a batter hits only once every nine batters. If a team has 40 plate appearances in a game, a batter at the top of the lineup will have 5 plate appearances, 1/8 of his team's total. You don't see that in other sports. A basketball team would never have Michael Jordan take only 1/8 of their shots.

I have no problem with players accepting big money deals that are offered to them. Whether the owners are showing poor judgement is another question.

A starting pitcher only pitches every 5 games, but a batter hits only once every nine batters. If a team has 40 plate appearances in a game, a batter at the top of the lineup will have 5 plate appearances, 1/8 of his team's total. You don't see that in other sports. A basketball team would never have Michael Jordan take only 1/8 of their shots.

I have no problem with players accepting big money deals that are offered to them. Whether the owners are showing poor judgement is another question.

But it's the simple fact that 125 million dollar contracts are being offered in the first place which is disturbing. Yeah it would be silly if a guy turned that down but still a lot of players are greedy. Why do the Yankees and Red Sox and Dodgers sign the most players every year? Because they will offer the most money and guys are greedy enough to take that 2 million dollar diference rather then play for a different team with more playing time, more security, better place for their families etc.

I have no problem with players accepting big money deals that are offered to them. Whether the owners are showing poor judgement is another question.

No problem either,zito is my favorite player (i just love the huge curveball lol) and who here would refuse this offer?
Having a pitcher who has the potential to keep you in the game every time he starts is valuable,i remember the luxery of having 3 of those (hudson,mulder,zito) on the A's,the thing is,i'm not sure zito is that kind of player anymore,he's just too inconsistant,if he can control his curve he'll be dominant,if he can't,then he'll be throwing meatballs and hitters will blast him.

He got that kind of money because the free agent pool is so weak this year and the demand still high that many teams go over bidding wars over avereage players,so that an above avereage player will get an insanely large amount of money.

This also makes me happy because it does actually help the A's,our young pitchers (starters and releivers) gain a lot of value in the trade market because,even if they might not be great,they are at least very cheap,so if ever a trade should happen (and an offseason without a trade isn't an offseason for the A's lol) we should get more than if these players weren't getting paid so much.

But it's the simple fact that 125 million dollar contracts are being offered in the first place which is disturbing. Yeah it would be silly if a guy turned that down but still a lot of players are greedy. Why do the Yankees and Red Sox and Dodgers sign the most players every year? Because they will offer the most money and guys are greedy enough to take that 2 million dollar diference rather then play for a different team with more playing time, more security, better place for their families etc.

First of all, I can't imagine a team would offer a player more money with the expectation of giving him less playing time than he is getting now. Maybe the Yankees have offered an everyday player more money with the stipulation that he'll mostly be coming off the bench, but I've never heard of such an instance.

When Alex Rodriguez took $25 million to play in Texas, I don't know how much he was offered to stay in Seattle, but I don't think it was anywhere near as much. If that offer was made to me, I would have taken it, so I can't complain.

I think that superstar position players are not as important as we think they are. The difference between a .350 hitter and a .300 hitter comes out to about one additional base hit every 6 games. As it happens, the Seattle Mariners won 116 games the year after Alex Rodriguez left. It is better to have a lineup full of good but not necessarily great players than a couple of superstars surrounded by mediocre players.

First of all, I can't imagine a team would offer a player more money with the expectation of giving him less playing time than he is getting now. Maybe the Yankees have offered an everyday player more money with the stipulation that he'll mostly be coming off the bench, but I've never heard of such an instance.

When Alex Rodriguez took $25 million to play in Texas, I don't know how much he was offered to stay in Seattle, but I don't think it was anywhere near as much. If that offer was made to me, I would have taken it, so I can't complain.

I think that superstar position players are not as important as we think they are. The difference between a .350 hitter and a .300 hitter comes out to about one additional base hit every 6 games. As it happens, the Seattle Mariners won 116 games the year after Alex Rodriguez left. It is better to have a lineup full of good but not necessarily great players than a couple of superstars surrounded by mediocre players.
I do think that batting average is a highly overrated stat but I still think that comparing players like Albert Pujols to say Darin Erstad is riddiculous. Besides it wasn't like the Mariners were without a superstar when A=Rod left. They had one of my favorite players, Ichiro, in right field.

Besides it wasn't like the Mariners were without a superstar when A=Rod left. They had one of my favorite players, Ichiro, in right field.

Though the 2001 season is the season that made him a superstar,coming into that season,he wasn't really known.
Edgar Martinez was the face of the franchise,after Griffey,Randy Johnson and A-rod were all gone.

And batting averages are overrated,i love the fact that the A's didn't have a single .300 hitter in the lineup last season.

I also think that although it is what the fans like to see, home runs too are overrated. In my opinion Albert Pujols had a better season then Ryan Howard last year although the main reason he lost was because of home runs. Howards team didnt make the playoffs and Pujols was injured for a period of time.

first off can i ask any thing about baseball here? do you know thing about Earle Bryan Combs ? if so what ?:relax: :lol: :welcome: :gryff:

first off can i ask any thing about baseball here? do you know thing about Earle Bryan Combs ? if so what ?:relax: :lol: :welcome: :gryff:

All I know about him is that he played centerfield for the Yankees during the 20's and 30's with Babe Ruth and Lou Gerhig and that he is in the hall of fame.

Hey folks,it's spring training!

I'm happy to see Piazza in an A's uniform:http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/apphoto/photo?photoId=1449963&sportId=10


Feel free to show pictures of your team's offseason additions.

This is the doldrums period for sports until April 1st. I'm a die hard Chicago White Sox fan exhiled to Florida. Unfortunately I don't get to watch many games let alone go to games like I used to, until they play the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Last year they were in town on my birthday and won and I caught a foul ball.:clap: So, for anyone living in a different state from your team, an XM radio is a must.

As a Nationals fan the term exciting new addition isn't in my vocabulary. More like how bad is it gonna be this year?

Rather like being a Cubs fan, huh?;) I mean except for three seasons in the last 20 years, it's been lean pickings for my Cubbies and it promises to be again this year. WHY did they hire Pinella?:grumble:

Rather like being a Cubs fan, huh?;) I mean except for three seasons in the last 20 years, it's been lean pickings for my Cubbies and it promises to be again this year. WHY did they hire Pinella?:grumble:

I actually think there fortunes are looking up. I do think that they overspent in the offseason, but they still made some good pick-ups and I think that although Dusty Baker is a better manager, Piniella might be a good fit there. Hes very experienced with both the game and dealing with pressure and the media. With guys like Ramirez, Soriano, Lee, Zambrano and Prior (if hes healthy) they've got a solid group. Do I think they will win the WS? No. But I do think they have a shot at the playoffs.

If healthy, Wood and Prior are great, and Zambrano has shown the capacity to be one of the dominant forces in the National League. But the key to that sentence is "if healthy." I don't think either of them will stay healthy (more's the pity). And I have to see them hit before I'm sold on the new lineup. Soriano's got good power, but as a leadoff hitter? And how much protection does the new lineup afford Lee? All these questions need to be answered.

Hmm well as a Nats fan I saw Soriano wreak havoc as a leadoff man. His power certainly didn't down, but his On Base pct. is probably a little lower then what you generally want in a lead-off guy, but he still has blistering speed. Wood and Prior definitely are key though. If both are healthy (which I doubt will happen) the Cubs will really be a force in the NL.

Yeah, that's been the knock on Soriano from the leadoff spot. He has great speed and lots of power, but not enough discipline to set the table for everyone else--and Lee needs lineup protection. And yeah, the only year Wood and Prior were healthy for most of the year, the Cubs made the playoffs and came one foul ball away from an appearance in the Series.:grumble: However, as you said, it's not likely that they'll both stay healthy. I mean isn't Wood already hurt?:eyebrows::sigh:

There are certain players in every sport (Grant Hill, Carlos Boozer and Marcus Camby in the NBA; Kellen Winslow Jr. or Kurt Warner in the NFL) that are All-Star caliber guys year in and year out but they have such a high tendency for injury that they never are able to fully acheive their potential. I have the feeling Prior and Wood are two of thos kind of players.

That's probably true. But the problem is with pitchers the rehab is even more delayed than with someone in the field, or a DH, particularly with arm trouble.

Kellen Winslow Jr. hasn't been around long enough or been in enough games to even qualify for this category.

Three years ago, that description of Warner was very accurate, but the cumulative effect of his injuries since 200-01 has been to severely limit his effectiveness. However, those observations are for another thread.;)

ARRRRRRGH! The Red Sox lost today to the ROYALS...It's all Curt Schilling's fault. Go retire. We're tied with the Devil Rays for last place...good thing we've only played one game :). We'll win tommorow with Beckett on the mound. Then it's Dice-K's turn..Can't wait for that one. He's awesome.

Muggledude--give it a rest. It's thanks to Curt Schilling your Sox broke "The Curse" that ought to buy him one bad start, huh?:grumble::grumble::grumble: Also, Schilling had nothing to do with the complete freeze that Meche put on that vaunted Sox offense. That was truly entertaining.

Maybe the Cubs'll have their yearly 16-run binge today since they skipped it yesterday.

A-Rod is going to have a very interesting year and the Rays would be a challenge if they ever figured out how to acquire more quality pitchers.

I hope the Royals do well this year--they're more than due for a break from the disasters they've been having.

It was entertaining to see the highlights of the White Sox getting blasted by the Indians--even if I couldn't see the broadcast.:D

The Braves started the year with a win but Smoltz got a no-decision.:sigh: So, how close is Glavine to 300 wins, now--after that opening day win?:huh:

O boy my Nats sure are lookin good. After getting pummeled yesterday with our one good pitcher, John Patterson, starting we're already down 4-0 in the 1st. Of course my expectations this year wern't very high but still.

I'm looking forward to the Sox and Rangers game this Sunday I belive on ESPN. I hope the Sox loose...:whistle:

Not gonna happen :). We're gonna beat the Rangers on national T.V. Hopefully the Sox's bats can finally wake up, because our infielders all aren't that great at hitting.

Not gonna happen :). We're gonna beat the Rangers on national T.V. Hopefully the Sox's bats can finally wake up, because our infielders all aren't that great at hitting.

Well were gonna see then. But who knows? I have to say though my friends are going for the Sox and I'm a Yanks fan so you know. :whistle:

The Red Sox? Don't they have to escape Kansas City first?;) It'll be interesting to see if Gil Meche can continue to pitch like an ace for a team that everyone expects to be mediocre at best.

How did the Nats game turn out?

Looks like the Mets are off and running at the Cardinals' expense. As a lifetime Cubs fan, I suppose I'm obligated to be glad that the Cardinals are struggling, but I dislike the Mets and I enjoy watching Puljols light up scoreboards.

We (Nats) ended up going down 9-3, an improvement from our 9-2 loss yesterday. Plus we lost 2 players to injuries on the first day with Christian Guzman and Kook Logan goin down. They're expected back in 2-3 weeks. I dont know a whole lot about Logan. Guzman is either one of the best leadoff men in the league or hes one of the worst. Either way hes never been a great fielder and his leg injuries have been takin away from his speed, one of his key attributes. Oh well. Give us 10 years and we'll make the playoffs!!!

Don't count on it--remember I'm a Cubs fan. It takes decades, as in plural, to build a playoff team in some places.

Who were the Nats playing?

Did the White Sox play? Please tell me the Indians pasted them again.

Nats played the Marlins. Not an elite team but not one of the bottom-scrapers either.

Well, aren't the Marlins supposed to have a solid core--I mean maybe solid enough that if their pitchers don't break down they might challenge for the wild card? Or am I still behind the times?

So, you don't like Guzman--is Logan good when he's healthy? I'm sorry, I don't know much about the Nats.

No you're up with the times. The Marlins have a lot of good young players in Miguel Cabrera, D-Train, Dan Uggla, Anibal Sanchez, Hanley Ramirez and others and will definitely be in contention for a playoff spot. Still they are very young and inexperienced with no one siginificant I can think of over 25 and there manager is a rookie manager as well. I can see them making the playoffs either through the wild card or out of the East but I would be scholed to see them win a playoff series. They definitely have a bright future though.

I don't blame you for not knowing much. live in L.A. and its hard enough to get news about a last place team and being on the other side of the country makes it more difficult but I still follow them as closely as I can. From what I've seen (and read) about Logan he is a solid young outfielder that can run, hit, and field well enough to earn him a starters spot. Is he an all-star player no, but he is an everyday guy with some potential.

So, his loss is deeply felt. Who's the manager for the Marlins now? I know Girardi got shoved out the door after doing a Manger-of-the-Year quality job with them (I wish he was managing the Cubs instead of Sweet Lou:sigh:).

Well hes only gone for a few weeks so at least its not too serious.

The manager of the Marlins is Fredi Gonzalez who was an assistant in Atlanta if I'm not mistaken. I don't know a whole lot about him.

I don't recognize the name, and I used to follow Atlanta pretty closely when they had Maddux as a part of their three-ace monster staff. As a Nats fan perhaps you could help me recall a name--they used to have a hitter who everyone thought was a five-tool player, the only weapon in their arsenal and he was a lead-off hitter for awhile and then--I think the second year in Washington he either got traded or jumped ship for more money. Does that sound familiar? I can't think of a name, but I'm sure I'm describing a Nat and Expo.

Umm that could have been Brad Wilkerson, Jose Vidro or CHristian Guzman. Guzman is still with us, Wilkerson was traded last year and Jose Vidro left in the offseason. I'm pretty sure ur thinking of Wilkerson. He was our leadoff man most of the time until he was traded in the Alfonso Soriano deal last year.

Angels vs Sox tonight. I hope Angels win tonight.

Alex Rodriguez is ridiculous. I don't even know what to say about what he's doing right now.

The only thing I care about is that the Cards are Champs and that they beat the Cubs today.

I remember that after witnessing Albert Pujols' huge April last year, with 14 home runs and however many RBI's, I never thought it would ever be matched. Didn't take long for someone to do it did it

Red Sox won their opener against the Yankees! :D

A-Rod hit two dingers, breaking the record for most in the shortest time 12 home runs in 15 games, and he has 30 RBIs already! This guy's on fire!

Royals beat the Twins yesterday! That was a really fun game to watch (even if I watched it on television!). It was back and forth until fifth inning and that was awesome. It was 4 to 2 and then the Royals got 5 runs, while going around the roster (10 batters in one inning!) in the fifth inning.

Best of all... Kaufman Stadium had the second biggest walk-in (getting the tickets when they arrived at the stadium) attendance in the last 10 years in that stadium.

It was an amazing game!

God I hate A-Rod so much but the guys on FIRE. He's on track to have like 200 RBIs. He won't, but its still an amazing April for him.

Yay Cards beat the Cubs 12-9. It was AWESOME. Pujols hit one like 500 feet in the tenth inning.

And A-Rod finally cooled off--some. Did he keep his hitting streak alive or is it dead at 18 games to start the year and 22 games total?:huh: He seems absolutely out of his mind.

I'm a die-hard Cubs fan, but it's good to see Phat Albert back on track.

stlfan5--why precisely do you hate A-Rod? He doesn't seem to be as conceited or combative as many of the other so-called luminaries in baseball (he doesn't have the attitude of a Bonds, for example). Is it the money, or the money and the spotlight that irks you? Or something else?

Glad to see more NL Central fans. I'm a Cardinal fan.

Hopefully we can get our season on track, so we can have a chance to repeat.

I was shocked and sad that Josh Hancock died in a car accident. Best wishes to his friends and family.

That was tragic, particularly with the past history of Kile dying of a heart attack--though I'm confused as to how this car accident could have occurred. Was it raining in St. Louis that night?

from espn.com:
Police said the 29-year-old Hancock was alone in his 2007 Ford Explorer when the SUV struck the rear of a flatbed tow truck at 12:35 a.m. The tow truck was in the left lane with its lights flashing while assisting another car that had crashed, Police Chief Joe Mokwa said.

Hancock died upon impact, Mokwa said. The driver of the tow truck, whose name was not released by police, was in the truck at the time of the crash but was not injured. Mokwa said the truck driver saw Hancock's SUV swerve just before it hit the tow truck.

Mokwa said it appeared Hancock was driving at or just above the speed limit, and there were no alcohol containers in his vehicle.

"We may never know what occurred," Mokwa said. "It appears that he just merely didn't see the tow truck."

it's definatly a tragedy.
toughts an prayers to the team and his family.

Yikes! He was driving safely and not intoxicated--was it raining? I mean, I can't think of anything else present that would obscure his vision unless it was extreme fatigue. What's worse--about four days prior, he overslept and was late to a game because he thought it started an hour later than it actually did. He had about 20 messages from people who either remembered what happened with Kile or had heard about it and were just checking to make sure he was okay. Truly sad.

they did say an autopsy was pending...
so maybe he had a health issue that caused the accident?
who knows.

Now, there's a report floating out there that he was seen drinking the night of the accident--not that he was drunk, just that he was drinking. That's sad and a bit stupid if true, but at least it provides some sort of plausible explanation.

I'm a die-hard Cubs fan, but it's good to see Phat Albert back on track.You have to be: I always have imagined the Crucio curse to be something like watching that ground ball roll under Durham's legs in '84..... (Or that other grounder going through Buckner's legs 2 years later!


stlfan5--why precisely do you hate A-Rod? He doesn't seem to be as conceited or combative as many of the other so-called luminaries in baseball (he doesn't have the attitude of a Bonds, for example). Is it the money, or the money and the spotlight that irks you? Or something else?Usually it is the myth that ARod is not "clutch" whereas people like Jeter are. This is a complete myth, of course. ARod's career numbers in the clutch are statistically indistinguishable from his overall numbers: ARod in the Clutch is ARod at any other time.

Amusingly, not only is the same true of Jeter, but his career numbers in the clutch actually are a little lower than expected given his overall numbers. Again, it is not significant. However, there are no big league hitters who's output is significantly different in or out of the clutch. It's all probabilistic, and well within what probability predicts.

The news about Hancock was sad. This is the 2nd time in less than 5 years that a Cardinal has died during a Cubs-Cards series.

Wimsey--Yes, watching the Cubs' yearly implosion (and even worse the good years where they give us so much hope and then spectacularly self-destruct) is a bit like voluntarily submitting for Cruciatus Curse experiments, but we are what we are.:D

At least A-Rod has taken steps to clearly and loudly dispel and destroy that myth this year. I hope he continues to have success.:)

The Hancock news is sad. I have no idea why this keeps happening--it's these strange, terrible coincidences.:sigh::sad:

The Hancock news is sad. I have no idea why this keeps happening--it's these strange, terrible coincidences.The stories coming out are suggesting that Hancock was an accident waiting to happen. Hopefully, the stories are not true, but I'm not getting my hopes up too high.

And the Cubs do not always implode. Take last year: they stunk from the word go! (The put the Zero in "OBP"....)


Oh, and ARod is not busting the myth in the eyes of many Yankee fans: they are not winning, ergo his hits are not "clutch." I guess if Jeter was doing it, then they would be winning or something.....

Um, he had two gigantic walk-off home runs that month, one of them a walk-off slam. He's producing the lion's share of their offense and in over 20 games he's gone hitless in what 3 of them, that's pretty impressive to start the season. Plus, Jeter was never a power hitter--he was an all-world defensive guy who could push runs across and could be counted on not to make an out. Now Rodriguez is hitting for average, driving in bonanza runs, hitting homers, and providing a large chunk of the offense.

Glad to see more NL Central fans. I'm a Cardinal fan.

Hopefully we can get our season on track, so we can have a chance to repeat.

I was shocked and sad that Josh Hancock died in a car accident. Best wishes to his friends and family.

me and my boyfriend are HUGE cardnial fans. yeah it was sad to hear about josh. it seems like we've been lossing alot since. but we won last night, 9 to 4, finally after 5 straight losses.

Its good to see the White Sox bats finally waking up. Still smarting after the bullpen dropped 2 out of 3 to my least favorite team, the Cubs. Well get em next month at US Cellular. At least we're done with that north side minor league sandbox for the year.:grumble:

Tigers have had such a great season this year. I can see the Indians/Tigers being a big rivalry throughout the year.

That has the potential to be a very crowded division--The Tigers are proving not to be a flash in the pan (and all Michigan thanks them), the Indians are serious about capitalizing on potential, and the White Sox are dangerous. And, oh yeah, if the Twins ever get healthy--that's a bear of a rotation and a solid offense with one of the best home crowds in baseball. Yikes! A four team race in a five-team division based on quality instead of mediocrity--when was the last time THAT happened?:huh::wow:

And can you imagine what it would be like if the Brewers were still in that division--they have one of the best records in baseball near the end of May--it's been over a decade since that happened.:wow:

I had thought the Brew Crew were going to be playoff contenders last year. As it turns out, I was a year early.

Sox (red sox) are cruising now - hopefully (to me) they don't ease off the gas pedal. This sort of lead does give them the luxury of letting key players heal right instead of panicking and throwing them back into the fire early.

NL East could turn into a decent race if Philly, NY, and Atlanta all play to potential. I wish I was able to see Reyes and Wright on TV more - sounds like an exciting team.

I'm hoping Atlanta wakes up and takes the division. I can't sympathize with Boston at all--so, I'll let that play out and hope it gets interesting. I'm a Cub fan for life, so I'll hope against hope that they right the ship and Milwaukee eases back to them--I think the reason you were a year early is that Milwaukee was decimated by injuries last year and that team's bench wasn't deep.

I don't think Boston is asking for sympathy - I'm a Red Sox fan, but I realize that they have the second-best financial situation in baseball, and the team with the best financial situation is making a mess of it. So, in that sense, it would almost be disappointing if they didn't make a deep playoff run. The Sox just have the luxury of resting Beckett or anyone else who gets hurt without panicking and throwing them back into the fire too early. 10 game leads have a way of doing that :).

Oh, happy 1500 days jordmundt - that's a nice round # :).

I know they want no sympathy, but I can't revel with them now, just as I couldn't hope for them in '04. If there had been no Bartman incident in '03, things might have been different--but I'm sure the Cubbies could have found a way to blow the series once they got there.

Thanks for the congrats on the anniversary--I didn't even notice until you brought it up.:D

Jumping in - American League, Angels Fan here! Looks like we're off to play the Yankee this weekend. Gosh, I really hate the Yankees, but I do love that the Angels seem to always have their number, and always end up beting them overall. (And now I probably jinxed it!)

I'm really enjoying their lousey season this year~

I find myself too bitter about '03 and '04 to wish the Red Sox well, so I've been defensively rooting for the Yankees--but not with much gusto. Good to see A-Rod waking up again. The New Yorkers will probably find some way to blame him for not taking the whole team on his shoulders, a la Kobe Bryant, even though baseball is even more of a team game than basketball in several respects.

The Angels did open their series well and Vlad is going full-throttle as always. Why do the Angels seem to have a problem with the Tigers, by the way?:huh:

When ARod was hitting everything in sight earlier this year it didn't seem to help the Yanks in the wins dep't...Baseball's a game where one player has an easier time helping the team lose than win, since it takes a lot to win a ballgame. A pitcher truly on top of his game is the only player who can win a game singlehandedly, and even then, sometimes a hitter can just get lucky.

Go 'Stros! Here, loyalty to the Astros is a must. I was really sorry to see Clemens go to New York. Same thing with Beltran a couple seasons ago. Anyone know how much they paid him to leave Houston? I'm not a hardcore baseball fan in that I don't hate other teams, but I like to see them lost. Esp. the Yankees. They are the best team money can buy and it's nice to see the (relative) underdog win it sometimes. But it seems the Cardinals have made bitter rivals out of the Astros after the past couple seasons of grueling battle.

Clemens was a prorated 28 million. It'll work out to 1 million / start, give or take a bit. If the Yanks manage to rally and make the postseason, then the $/start will go down a bit, since he'll have at least one more if not a few more starts.

Has Houston managed to "get young"? They look like they might need to take a year or two to retool, with Beltran, Clemens, Pettite, Bagwell, etc all leaving the team, and Biggio well on his way. That's an awful lot of talent to have gone through...

28 million? Whew-ie!
Has Houston managed to "get young"? They look like they might need to take a year or two to retool, with Beltran, Clemens, Pettite, Bagwell, etc all leaving the team, and Biggio well on his way. That's an awful lot of talent to have gone through...
Tell me about it. In my opinion, Bagwell has passed his prime and (as I believe) is working as an assistant coach for the Astros. I hadn't heard Pettite was leaving? And I definitely didn't hear Biggio was thinking about it!! But you're right, even if half our players stick around, the Astros need to play catch-up to get the team back on-track. I'll never forget our first big season (where we almost got into the World Series) with the B's: Beltran, Biggio, Bagwell, Berkman. Awesome.

Pettite's also with the yanks now :rolleyes:

I'm a hopeless Cubs fan--everywhere else, I'm just an interested observer. I would like to see Greg Maddux win every start, no matter where he ends up (even if, in the future, that might be St. Louis or the Chi Sox). I'm amused to watch the Tigers show actual power. Even powerful pitchers like the immortal Walter Johnson can't do it on their own--He had some ridiculous stat for 1-0 losses and he was in Washington for his whole career--and that's when Washington was a joke.

And Biggio probably will retire after he gets to that magical 3,000 hit plateau.

Geesh, Pettite too? Obviously I haven't been keeping up this season. It's so sad to see all the older players pack up their bags and leave for another team (and a bigger paycheck). It's mostly their sentimental value, if not for their performance. But I think that the Astros need to start investing in new talent, even if the new talent will eventually catch their star and head over to New York.

Geesh, Pettite too? Obviously I haven't been keeping up this season. It's so sad to see all the older players pack up their bags and leave for another team (and a bigger paycheck). It's mostly their sentimental value, if not for their performance. But I think that the Astros need to start investing in new talent, even if the new talent will eventually catch their star and head over to New York.

Just because the last three ended up in NY doesn't mean the next three will :lol:

Maybe one of them the Red Sox might buy, instead (yup, though I'm a Sox fan, I realize what they do with a lot of their $ - they buy talent).

Just because the last three ended up in NY doesn't mean the next three will
Oh, I'm not bitter towards New York for taking my favorite players, it's just that the prescendent has been set and New York is watching us...:p

Anyone out there a Cardinals fan as well?

Anyone out there a Cardinals fan as well?

me and my boyfriend are huge cardinals fans!!!!

I find myself too bitter about '03 and '04 to wish the Red Sox well, so I've been defensively rooting for the Yankees--but not with much gusto. Good to see A-Rod waking up again. The New Yorkers will probably find some way to blame him for not taking the whole team on his shoulders, a la Kobe Bryant, even though baseball is even more of a team game than basketball in several respects.

The Angels did open their series well and Vlad is going full-throttle as always. Why do the Angels seem to have a problem with the Tigers, by the way?:huh:


I wish A-Rod would come to Anaheim. We would love him. But we'd have to give up a lot.

I think Detroit has some really great pitching right now, and they seem to do well against my Angels. I think they may make it to another play offs this year, but the Angels are doing well, and will hopefully stay that way to the end of the year. If of course we can get past Seattle.

How bout that SWEEP in NY! Yeah baby!:drool:

me and my boyfriend are huge cardinals fans!!!!
My second-favorite team after the Astros! Even though we are supposed to be bitter enemies. Pujols is like a villain here. Last time I was in St. Louis, I saw them play a game at the old stadium and they are a great team. Good ensemble cast and good training all around.

The new St Louis stadium is gorgeous. I got to go there once last year, well worth the hefty price I paid for the tix. It was Pujols last HR before that June DL stint, it was right on the tail end of the amazing run he had to begin '06.

With the offense picking up again in St. Louis and the Brewers coming back to earth, it looks like the Cards are sitting comfortably. Detroit's starting pitching is surprisingly good--those 20-game losers are turning into potential 15-game winners with offensive support (which is nice) but the bullpen, like many in baseball, has been torched by injury.

Justin Verlander is orgasmic.

Ahh, it's great to be a Tigers fan!!!

Did anyone (especially a Red Sox fan) see the almost no hitter by Schilling the other night? That made me so mad! Only one out away! Grr...so upsetting.

Did anyone (especially a Red Sox fan) see the almost no hitter by Schilling the other night? That made me so mad! Only one out away! Grr...so upsetting.

I saw the 9th inning. Was it Shannon Stewart, or Jaque Jones? I get them confused. That would totally suck, one out away. But I'm more happy Verlander got it than Schilling, all of baseball should be. Justin's got a great personality, completely unlike Schilling, and Verlander's a lot younger, you haven't even seen his best stuff.

My second-favorite team after the Astros! Even though we are supposed to be bitter enemies. Pujols is like a villain here. Last time I was in St. Louis, I saw them play a game at the old stadium and they are a great team. Good ensemble cast and good training all around.

lol yeah my boyfriend might consider you a bitter enemy ( he is a die-hard fan) but i;m not that way. i've been to a game at the old statium but i haven't gotten the chance to be at the new one. my boyfriend has been several times since it was built. it'll probably be a while before i get to go since i'm living in florida right now.

Schilling's the guy you hate if he's on the other team and love if he's on yours. Currently he's on my team, so I love him. Though he sometimes needs to add a filter between brain and mouth, he's called out a few people that need calling out.

Getting one out away sucks, but there have been a lot of no-hitters broken up at that stage. The Yanks sort of have a right to celebrate; the Sox were very happy when Jurassic Carl broke up Moose's perfect game at that stage a few years back.

Awesome feat for Verlander. He's got the stuff to get another one or two down the line; when he's on top of his game he is unhittable. Congrats to him :).

The Royals are on a bit of a roll right now.

On Sunday, they won 17-5, scoring in every inning but one and just yesterday they won 8-1, scoring 5 in the first. The Royals is my hometown team so I always root for them, and they are doing pretty well right now... even though they are under .500

Nice to see the Royals on a roll; it's been too long since they did that. Rob Neyer'd be happy :p.

Should have focused more on Verlander in my above post; it was his night, so schill and Moose and the Sox / Yanks stuff should have been deprioritized.

It was the first Tigers no-hitter in over two decades and the first Tigers no-hitter pitched at home since the 1950s when someone named Virgil Trucks did it twice in one season.:wow: It's hard to believe that Verlander's only 23. I don't know about the Royals being on a roll yet--they have a big hole to climb out of and a very deep division. I'm not so secretly snickering a little at the White Sox' current predicament--misery does love company.

And it can't possibly have been Jacques Jones who broke up Schilling's no-hit bid because Jones is a Cub--wasn't that game against the Blue Jays?

Schillings one hitter was against the A's. It was the A's lead off hitter who broke it up.

Wonder if Verlander shook Pudge off after 8 2/3. Just sayin.

Yankees are on a hot streak. A hot streak against the Chi Sox and Pirates but a hot streak. they may actually make a run for the wild card but I doubt they will catch the Indians or Tigers. I garuntee you one of them will win the central and the other the card.

Schilling's the guy you hate if he's on the other team and love if he's on yours. Currently he's on my team, so I love him. Though he sometimes needs to add a filter between brain and mouth, he's called out a few people that need calling out.
Glad to meet another sox fan.

It was the first Tigers no-hitter in over two decades and the first Tigers no-hitter pitched at home since the 1950s when someone named Virgil Trucks did it twice in one season.:wow: It's hard to believe that Verlander's only 23. I don't know about the Royals being on a roll yet--they have a big hole to climb out of and a very deep division. I'm not so secretly snickering a little at the White Sox' current predicament--misery does love company.

And it can't possibly have been Jacques Jones who broke up Schilling's no-hit bid because Jones is a Cub--wasn't that game against the Blue Jays?

It was Shannon Steward then, I get them confused all the time, they both used to play with the Twins and seem to have identical styles.

I don't know about the Royals being on a roll yet--they have a big hole to climb out of and a very deep division.

This is true... they win a couple games, then lose one or two. Like yesterday... dreadful game. I barely watched any of it cause So You Think You Can Dance? was on. They just can't get on a streak like they were in a couple years ago... anyone remember that? They won alot of games in a row.

That was--I think April of '03 or '04 where Lima looked like an ace and Tony Pena looked like a genius and they were leading the Central for three weeks and the bottom fell out. Wasn't there a guy named Aaron Guiel hitting at the top of their line-up that year?

There's a lot of ground to make up, but I hope the Yanks give the Red Sox a real scare--I didn't know Stewart was on the A's, but I guess he must be since that no-hit bid WAS against the A's.

Looks like A-Rod feasted on some troubled teams recently with his RBI total up to 66 and his home runs up to 25.

This is my kind of thread. :)

My favorite team is the St. Louis Cardinals. I live pretty close to St. Louis, and try to make it up there every year to see a few games.

They're on a slight decline this year, but as of late (with exception given to the 8-1 loss to the Royals), they've been doing pretty well.

Anyone else here a Cardinals-obsessed fan? =P

That was--I think April of '03 or '04 where Lima looked like an ace and Tony Pena looked like a genius and they were leading the Central for three weeks and the bottom fell out. Wasn't there a guy named Aaron Guiel hitting at the top of their line-up that year?


Yep... I loved that season. Royals were unstoppable for a while. I just wish they could get back into that. They lost yesterday, but Grudzielanek was out and he is one of their best players right now. He had something wrong.

Grudzi's one of their best players? Yikes! I remember when he was a Cub and he was serviceable, but not spectacular. Have we returned to the days when KC was a virtual farm-club for the big markets? I ask this because in the 50s and early 60s the most talented players in Kansas City would get traded--principally to the Yankees (like Maris in 1960) after making a splash in the big leagues. Any ideas how that got started? Were they once a farm team and the connection remained? That doesn't seem likely, but I know very little game history.

Grudzi's one of their best players? Yikes! I remember when he was a Cub and he was serviceable, but not spectacular. Have we returned to the days when KC was a virtual farm-club for the big markets? I ask this because in the 50s and early 60s the most talented players in Kansas City would get traded--principally to the Yankees (like Maris in 1960) after making a splash in the big leagues. Any ideas how that got started? Were they once a farm team and the connection remained? That doesn't seem likely, but I know very little game history.

No idea...

But yeah, Grudzielanek, Teahen and Sweeney... I might be missing one or two names. I like Mark Teahen, Zach Greinke (a pitcher), and Tony Pena Jr., who has been doing pretty good lately. He is getting better and better. Sweeney used to be the best player on the team... I dunno what has been happening with him. He's been going average lately.

I think it's the wear and tear of time and playing in the majors that's limiting him.

Royals are starting a winning streak and I hope it continues. Thursday they won against the Cardinals, 17-8, winning the series, 2 games to 1.

Yesterday in their first game against the Marlins, they won 6-2. Gil Meche was the pitcher and he pitched 8 innings.

I think the Royals can win the next two games against the Marlins. It would be great if they could. After this series they go to St. Louis to face the Cardinals again.

Interesting games coming up for the Royals :D

Meche is sort of having a strange year. One start he looks like an ace, the next start, he gets shelled. I wouldn't start counting chickens on that Florida series--there are some good bats in that line-up and some quality pitchers in that rotation.

This is my kind of thread. :)

My favorite team is the St. Louis Cardinals. I live pretty close to St. Louis, and try to make it up there every year to see a few games.

They're on a slight decline this year, but as of late (with exception given to the 8-1 loss to the Royals), they've been doing pretty well.

Anyone else here a Cardinals-obsessed fan? =P

yeah! me and my boyfriend. he goes to several games a year at their stadium.

Once again the Royals are playing the Cardinals, but they are at the Cardinals stadium this time. Yesterday they lost, but a couple days ago they won. The series is tied with one game left. Monday's game was cool (IMHO as a Royals fan), the Cardinals got two errors by their pitcher in the first inning. Then we kept on walking Pujols, and Encarnacion's streak would have been lost but he hit one his last time up.

I didn't watch much of the game yesterday. But I know we lost.

Let's Go O's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any other Orioles fans on here?

oh and BOOOOOOOOOOOOO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's Go O's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any other Orioles fans on here?

oh and BOOOOOOOOOOOOO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red Sox fan here...you coulda helped us beat the Yankees by kindly not hitting those homers over the weekend :whistle:

:lol: Of course a team's gotta try to win, even when it helps the team they dislike the most

Red Sox fan here...you coulda helped us beat the Yankees by kindly not hitting those homers over the weekend :whistle:


Fellow Sox fan here! Wearing Sox pjs as I speak (well type). I'm so excited. My brother and I are going to Yankee Stadium to see a Sox/Yankees game. I can't wait! Never been to Yankee Stadium before. But I used to go to Fenway all the time.

Fellow Sox fan here! Wearing Sox pjs as I speak (well type). I'm so excited. My brother and I are going to Yankee Stadium to see a Sox/Yankees game. I can't wait! Never been to Yankee Stadium before. But I used to go to Fenway all the time.

It's fun to go - I've been to Sox / Yanks in the Bronx, too. Just be careful :p

I'm a huge St. Louis Cardinals fan. I actually got the privilege of going to the World Series game 4. It was totally amazing! Kind of embarrassed to admit that when I saw the massive, pulsating crowd, I couldn't help of thinking about that Quidditch match in one of the HP films. :rotfl: However...the Cardinals won the series in Game 5...and I originally had Game 5 tickets!!! But when game 4 got rained out, they made the G5 ticketers go the next night...to game 4. It was a great game...Cardinals won...but it would have been great to see the series clincher. :sigh:

Red Sox fan here...you coulda helped us beat the Yankees by kindly not hitting those homers over the weekend :whistle:

:lol: Of course a team's gotta try to win, even when it helps the team they dislike the most

haha, sorry about that ;) anyway I'm sure the homers we hit tonight more than made up for it :)

Red Sox fan here...you coulda helped us beat the Yankees by kindly not hitting those homers over the weekend :whistle:Well, Cabrerra did us Sox fans a favor tonight! Sadly, I left him on the bench for my head-to-head fantasy team......

Did anyone here see MythBusters evaluation of baseball myths?

Well, Cabrerra did us Sox fans a favor tonight! Sadly, I left him on the bench for my head-to-head fantasy team......

Did anyone here see MythBusters evaluation of baseball myths?

No, missed it. Don't have cable now :lol:

Well, Cabrerra did us Sox fans a favor tonight! Sadly, I left him on the bench for my head-to-head fantasy team......

Did anyone here see MythBusters evaluation of baseball myths?

No. What did they cover?

No. What did they cover?

I'm really not sure how exactly they got to these conclusions but:
1. Corked bat's actually make the ball pop off the bat slower, not faster. So it turns out Sosa was only hurting himself.
2. Dry baseballs DO go consistently farther when hit than humid/wet balls.
3. They figured out that it is physically impossible for a pitcher to throw a rising fastball...but it is possible to throw a ball in a practically straight line.
4. It's impossible to knock the cover off of a baseball (unless the ball is very old and worn.)
5. It really is faster to slide into the base b/c you don't have to slow down to stop.

I think they may have done a few more but I'm sure they did those ^^^ :)

Looks like the Mets and Red Sox can set their postseason rotations any time they feel like now...they can afford a few losses, they've got a nice cushion.

NL central: the eventual winner is plotting how to win the world series as a barely-0.500 team.

Rest of the races still look decent to great, with the NL west being potentially a great one.

If they sweep the Yanks this week or win the series, then yes. Otherwise, it's still a little premature. As for the Mets, they haven't gone on a run yet and there are two good teams in striking distance--this is not a time to count chickens before they hatch. Frankly, I'm waiting for the Cubs' September swoon--I hope it doesn't happen, but even as a relatively young Cubs fan, I've been burned too many times not to be wary.

I'm really not sure how exactly they got to these conclusions but:
1. Corked bat's actually make the ball pop off the bat slower, not faster. So it turns out Sosa was only hurting himself.That was tested simply by examining how far nearly identical baseballs thrown at nearly identical speeds bounced off of otherwise nearly identical bats, one corked, the other uncorked.

Balls bounced off of uncorked bats at very nearly the speed that they hit the bat. Thus, an uncorked bat does a very good job of reflecting momentum. Balls bounced off of a corked bat at just over half the speed. Thus, a corked bat does a good job of absorbing momentum.

Of course, you can demonstrate the same thing yourself on yourself if you feel like risking a broken leg. Drop 3 meters onto a cork floorboard. Then drop 3 meters onto a wooden floor. You will feel the latter much more than the former!
2. Dry baseballs DO go consistently farther when hit than humid/wet balls.The explanation for this is two-fold. First, humid balls are softer and absorb more of the transfer in momentum. Two, humid balls are a little heavier, which means that the same mA has a lower A because of the higher m.
3. They figured out that it is physically impossible for a pitcher to throw a rising fastball...but it is possible to throw a ball in a practically straight line.In particular, they showed that curves work by the spin affecting local air pressure. Negative differences above or to the side suck the ball to the left/right or down. However, negative differences above the ball (which are what you would need to suck the ball upwards, making it rise) need to be too great given Earth's atmospheric pressure and a baseball's density.
4. It's impossible to knock the cover off of a baseball (unless the ball is very old and worn.)Actually, they could: but the strength of the pitch and the swing both are utterly beyond human capacity. I think that the pitch was around 200 mph and the bat swing huge.....

If they sweep the Yanks this week or win the series, then yes. Otherwise, it's still a little premature.Well, the Sox have a 7 game lead with a month to go. That is huge. Indeed, the Yanks have to worry about catching Seattle for the Wild Card. Here is hoping for an Uruk free post-season!
As for the Mets, they haven't gone on a run yet and there are two good teams in striking distance--this is not a time to count chickens before they hatch.
The Mets have not wrapped it up, but a 4-game and 6-game lead is pretty good.Frankly, I'm waiting for the Cubs' September swoon--I hope it doesn't happen, but even as a relatively young Cubs fan, I've been burned too many times not to be wary.[/QUOTE]The Cubs really are not a very good team. They team OBP still is much too low, and they have no power. The Cards will overtake them ere long.

I'm a huge Red Sox fan... this series with the Yanks is scaring me wicked bad though...

Wimsey--should the Red Sox be comfortable now that they've been swept out of town by the Yankees? I know that the lead is still 5 games, but there's still just over a month left in the regular season and that insurmountable lead is shrinking rather quickly. At any rate, it looks like the Yanks have a very solid shot at the wild card.

Wimsey--should the Red Sox be comfortable now that they've been swept out of town by the Yankees? I know that the lead is still 5 games, but there's still just over a month left in the regular season and that insurmountable lead is shrinking rather quickly. At any rate, it looks like the Yanks have a very solid shot at the wild card.

I'm not too worried. The Yanks had it down to 4 a couple weeks back, then it went back to 8 when the Sox started playing softer teams and the Yanks got to the end of their soft schedule portion. The Sox have an easier schedule from here on in, and it's unlikely that the Yanks will make up more than one game in the remaining 3 game series at Fenway...so they have to make up four games against a harder schedule in a month. As well as the Yanks are playing, that's still a tall order - against anyone not named Detroit or New York the Sox are still rolling.

As you noted, the Red Sox have a relatively easy road on the way in. However, if the Yankees stay hot, that last series at Fenway could have real significance--it might even *gasp* determine who wins the AL East.

Just two days ago on the 1st of September, Clay Buchholz threw a no hitter in just his 2nd MLB start. The Boston Red Sox defeated the Baltimore Orioles 10-0 thanx to him. It was at Fenway Park.

The no-hitter was cool. Too bad I missed the game...I hope he's able to come back the next time out and still have some energy :).

He did. He picked up a win in relief. So, A-Rod still hasn't cooled down yet, with homers in back to back games now. It would be deliciously ironic if he had his best statistical regular season and was so exhausted that he couldn't contribute in the postseason--but even Bonds had that one breakthrough year.

He did. He picked up a win in relief. So, A-Rod still hasn't cooled down yet, with homers in back to back games now. It would be deliciously ironic if he had his best statistical regular season and was so exhausted that he couldn't contribute in the postseason--but even Bonds had that one breakthrough year.

That would be ironic; but the Yanks would have needed almost every single one of those to get to the postseason in the first place. I hope the fickle Yanks fans remember that if he does have a bad postseason, that they almost certainly wouldn't have gotten there if he hadn't had an amazing season.

I doubt even their owner would care to remember that if the Yanks clinch the wild card and get swept by the Sox in the divisional round of the playoffs. That's just the way New York is. I have no idea why, nor do I care to find out in the near future--it's just the way things are.

On my personal Rodriguez watch--he now has 52 home runs, 140 RBI, and he's had at least one home run in each of the last five team games (7 total in that span). What he's doing is absolutely nuts.

What's even more amazing now (though I'm no Yankees fan) is how the Yankees are only 1.5 games out of first for the AL East..especially after where they were in Early May/June what was it 14 games out?


That's Baseball for you.

Oh god... I'm just sick over the Yankees catching up. My Sox do this EVERY YEAR. They do great up until the break, then they just throw it all away.

At least, if nothing else, I think we got a few award winners on the team this year. Dustin Pedroia should win AL Rookie of the Year, and Josh Beckett should be a shoe-in for the Cy Young.

I may have spoken too soon about the division (well, they did kind of implode there for a bit), but I'm not worried about the playoffs yet.

What's the recent success rate for teams that "backed into" the playoffs vs. teams that were playing great ball? If I recall there isn't as much of a difference as one would think...

Well, Red Sox clinched playoff berth tonight :D. In my opinion, they should set up the playoff rotation and make sure players are well-rested - even if it's at the cost of the division. Lots of Wild-Card winners have won the WS, so I think the loss of home-field wouldn't be too bad, if that happened.

Any other teams close to clinching?

Well, Red Sox clinched playoff berth tonight :D. In my opinion, they should set up the playoff rotation and make sure players are well-rested - even if it's at the cost of the division. Lots of Wild-Card winners have won the WS, so I think the loss of home-field wouldn't be too bad, if that happened.

Any other teams close to clinching?

Cleveland clinches the AL Central with a win or Detroit loss. Anaheim clinches the AL West with a win or Seattle loss.

The Cubs magic number, before today's game, is 6. They have a really good chance to clinch their division, soon, but since they are the Cubs, we don't guarantee it.

By the way, what happened to the Cardinals. They got pretty close to the Cubs at one point.

Go, Cubbies :lol: We are ready to have our hearts torn out with disappointment once again - yah :lol:

By the way, what happened to the Cardinals?

I wish I knew.

The Cubs magic number, before today's game, is 6. They have a really good chance to clinch their division, soon, but since they are the Cubs, we don't guarantee it.

By the way, what happened to the Cardinals. They got pretty close to the Cubs at one point.

Go, Cubbies :lol: We are ready to have our hearts torn out with disappointment once again - yah :lol:

I wish I knew.

Bolding by me.

They lost most of their consistent pitchers to free agency, then lost one starter to injury and one to death. Their starting position players have been either hurt (nagging injuries) or not performing consistently. I think Pujols is the only position player who hasn't missed because of injury. Molina has just had season-ending knee surgery.

I try to follow them from Florida (Eckstein is a former Gator) so I may have missed some of their woes, but that is my impression of the situation.

Especially, when being ahead in a game and the relief pitcher comes in and blows the lead. (Some starters have done that, too. Maybe some wouldn't be starters if the Cardinals had all of this year's starting rotation still available.)

I don't care which of the two teams win (Milwaukee or Cubbies) but I want the National League to beat the American League. Since SusanBones111 is a Cubbies fan, I hope she gets her wish. :whistle: I can't believe I just said that. :err: :yuhup:

I don't care which of the two teams win (Milwaukee or Cubbies) but I want the National League to beat the American League. Since SusanBones111 is a Cubbies fan, I hope she gets her wish. :whistle: I can't believe I just said that. :err: :yuhup:Did I just hear a Cardinals fan wish the Cubbies good luck? Wow :lol:
(By the way, I cheered for the Cardinals last year in the World Series, since I have relatives who are fans.)

Did I just hear a Cardinals fan wish the Cubbies good luck? Wow :lol:
(By the way, I cheered for the Cardinals last year in the World Series, since I have relatives who are fans.)

I can't believe I said that either. :argh:

The closest race at this point is for NL wildcard. The Yanks clinch the AL wild card with a win or a Tigers loss--bank on the Tigers losing.

The NL West is also still up for grabs.

I refuse to comment on the Cubs--the fans (like me) have been here too many times to start counting chickens.

Cubs clinched!

As a long suffering Cubs fan, I won't get too excited, yet :lol:

Right there with you Susan Bones! Did they ever release the Cubs' victory theme on CD ("Go Cubs, Go," the song they play at Wrigley after every home win)? I have this urge to blast it, but I didn't even know it existed until this year.

The Red Sox are now officially the winners of the AL East

With the White Sox and the Red Sox both breaking long "winless" streaks recently, it would be the right time for the Cubs. I guess I'll be rooting for them (except in the event that the Red Sox are facing them).

Should be a fun October :D

I'm so happy the Sox finally won the AL East. I can barely even remember the last time that happened! :D

So the Indians lost tonight and the Red Sox won and secured the best record.

Phillies!

Well, since my team decided to give up down the stretch (take a guess on what team that is)..I will be rooting for the cubbies and of course against the Yankees. :p



What a strange baseball season.

Yeah, it's been weird. The Phillies were given up for dead, and there was even an SI article just before their 10,000th loss. The Mets looked secure all year, but the pressure finally got to them (that's too bad, I'm a Glavine fan from the Braves days). I'm torn about the one-game-playoff though. I love Maddux, so I'd like to see him in the post-season again, but the Rockies get such a raw deal, it would be cool to see them make an October run (though I'm definitely rooting for the Cubbies). Anyone know anything about that "Go Cubs, Go" song I mentioned earlier?