Will Harry go to Egypt?

Will Harry go to Egypt?

One of the Weasley's, Bill, I think, is a curse breaker for Gringot's Wizard Bank in Egypt. The Pyramids have many curses and jinxes. And, most significantly is the origin of the word Horcrux.

It is thought that it is a combination of the name Horus (Egyptian God of the Skies, and son of Osiris """GOD OF THE DEAD"""") and perhaps just the word crux, which means "the whole point". The ancient Egyptians were obsessed with immortality. That is why they mummified their people. They wanted to make sure they made it to immortality and had their body to take with them.

Lord Voldemort likens himself to be a god. He has altered his body, and shredded his soul to make himself immortal. Since Egypt has been mentioned, the significance of Egyptian curses has been mentioned, and Volde wishes immortality it stands to reason that Egypt may be a destination in the next book.

Will Harry go to Egypt?

One of the Weasley's, Bill, I think, is a curse breaker for Gringot's Wizard Bank in Egypt. The Pyramids have many curses and jinxes. And, most significantly is the origin of the word Horcrux.

It is thought that it is a combination of the name Horus (Egyptian God of the Skies, and son of Osiris """GOD OF THE DEAD"""") and perhaps just the word crux, which means "the whole point". The ancient Egyptians were obsessed with immortality. That is why they mummified their people. They wanted to make sure they made it to immortality and had their body to take with them.

Lord Voldemort likens himself to be a god. He has altered his body, and shredded his soul to make himself immortal. Since Egypt has been mentioned, the significance of Egyptian curses has been mentioned, and Volde wishes immortality it stands to reason that Egypt may be a destination in the next book.

Interesting theory...I did not know that about the word Horcrux. It seems like that is possible, but JKR may have stumbled upon that by accident. If Harry goes abroad, I think Romania is a more likely. Egypt is definitely possible, though.

I think Egypt is unlikely, seeing as there probably isn't a horcrux there. Voldemort likes to keep his things in places near home and seeped in significance. The only point would be something Bill related.

Also, Bill doesn't work in Egypt anymore. He asked for a desk job so that he could be more involved in the Order (and to help Fleur with her English) so there's really no reason for Harry go to Egypt.

I don't think he'll go to Egypt either. I don't think that Voldemort would put a horcrux so far away, and I don't see any real reason for Harry to go.

There really wouldnt be too much of a point, seeing as 1, bill isnt in egypt, 2, the (possible) horcruxes we've seen were all relatively close to home.

I see your points, but I think that if indeed the origin of the word Horcrux is Egyptian, then the knowledge of how to create, and thus destroy one would be found there. This alone would make it worthwhile taking the trip.

Broomsticks or apparating, anyone?

I agree that she may have gotten the idea from the Ancient Eygptians, but he has Bill so I don't see the point of him going there himself. I don't see Harry leaving England at all in Book 7.

I think Harry will stay in Great Britian.

Well, it is a funny theory, but I doubt it. Rowling has enough to write about as it is, without kicking Harry of to Egypt four a chapter or two, so... doubt it...

Why not? She has done so much research into myths, and their origins, we are clear than Harry will likely return to Hogwarts perhaps only briefly, but not as a student, and he and his friends have learned to apparate, which means a trip to Egypt could be near-instantaneous. In HBP we see Harry adventuring somewhere other than the Dursley's neighborhood, Hogwarts, The Ministry, or Hogsmead for the first time, when he went to the cave with Dumbledore. We also, know that the wizarding world extends well beyond the borders of The United Kingdom.

Perhaps for a nice plot twist, why not some place steeped in mystical wonder. Egypt is the epitome of strange mystical places. Many people to this date think that the pyramids were created by some kind of strange force, be it little green men (aliens, or perhaps, Goblins?), or they had their own brand of magic that is not fully understood. Horcruxes are hardly understood, even by someone so worldly and wise as Dumbledore.

I don't know if there is a limit to the range of Apparating, or if it's possible to Apparate to somewhere you haven't been, sort of like the ability of Night Crawler in X-Men.

Also, while I'm sure JK Rowling will give us new settings in Deathly Hallows, I don't think she'll send Harry to a different part of the world like Egypt. The books have centered around England and Scotland, and I think she'll keep Harry there.

Still, I think (since Egypt has been mentioned more than once in the septology) that it might become important in DH. I don't know if there'll be a Horcrux there, however (it's too random).

No I do not think he will. I think he will stay near home. He will be starting out from Hogwarts. But that is what I think.

Well, what would be the point of sending him to Egypt, if LV is in England? It makes no sense, just like that thread about Harry going to Romania.

However, having international wizards poping into and out of the book I think will happen, and there is undoubtedly going to be someone coming from Egypt.

Still, I think (since Egypt has been mentioned more than once in the septology) that it might become important in DH. I don't know if there'll be a Horcrux there, however (it's too random).

Egypt has been mentioned a couple of times, but Romania has been mentioned in nearly every book. Therefore, I think it likely that Romania stands a greater chance of playing a part in DH than Egypt.

Well, what would be the point of sending him to Egypt, if LV is in England? It makes no sense, just like that thread about Harry going to Romania.

However, having international wizards poping into and out of the book I think will happen, and there is undoubtedly going to be someone coming from Egypt.

Because Harry is not going after Voldemort first, he had to distroy the horcruxes before he looks for Voldemort. We know that Voldemort travelled abroad, so why can he not have a horcrux in a different country? What doesn't make sense is to say that something isn't possible in a book where all things are possible, no matter how likely or unlikely something may be. The one thing that is true about a Harry Potter book is that a reader is well founded in expecting the unexpected.

Well, what would be the point of sending him to Egypt, if LV is in England? It makes no sense, just like that thread about Harry going to Romania.

However, having international wizards poping into and out of the book I think will happen, and there is undoubtedly going to be someone coming from Egypt

He spent time in several known countries...Romania and Albania after losing his powers; and after he graduated from Hogwarts until he came back for a job he traveled extensively.

i wish harry would come to america or canada for hiding...unlikely....:no:

I would have to slap JK if she made Harry go to Egypt. That particular country is overused in Literature.

Will Harry go to Egypt?

One of the Weasley's, Bill, I think, is a curse breaker for Gringot's Wizard Bank in Egypt. The Pyramids have many curses and jinxes. And, most significantly is the origin of the word Horcrux.

It is thought that it is a combination of the name Horus (Egyptian God of the Skies, and son of Osiris """GOD OF THE DEAD"""") and perhaps just the word crux, which means "the whole point". The ancient Egyptians were obsessed with immortality. That is why they mummified their people. They wanted to make sure they made it to immortality and had their body to take with them.

Lord Voldemort likens himself to be a god. He has altered his body, and shredded his soul to make himself immortal. Since Egypt has been mentioned, the significance of Egyptian curses has been mentioned, and Volde wishes immortality it stands to reason that Egypt may be a destination in the next book.
There used to be a thread a long time ago, asking the same question. :)

I don't think Harry will leave England, though I believe Egyptian symbols and mythology are on JKR's mind.

You might want to read my older thread "Egyptian Mythology, Dig In" :
http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=20899&highlight=egyptian+mythology+dig+in

I have some interesting links and information in the first post.

He spent time in several known countries...Romania and Albania after losing his powers;Can you please quote the passage that places Voldemort in Romania? I can't recall any mention in the books that places him/it there, not in body or vapor forms. :huh:

As for Harry going to Egypt as part of the Horcrux Quest, well, that's up to Jo. The more "new" places Harry goes, the longer the book (because Jo will have to describe the new places in more detail as she did in OotP). While I agree that Egypt does have a long history of the so-called "immortality" plan, it's hardly original to them to believe of a continued existence in the spirit realm. Personally, I don't think Voldemort would have been tremendously interested in an immortality plan that required death and mummification first, but just mho.

i do believe that what you are saying about harry going to egypt could come to play with there being a horcrux there because i can't see voldemort putting all of his horcruxes in the same country and he might end up going to romania too, just a thought.

You're correct, Nicole. Romania has not been mentioned...it was someone else saying Romania, and me misquoting it as fact. Albania, though, is where he was hiding when he found Bertha Jorkins.

As for Voldemort going to Egypt...just because mummification is the means that the world generally accepts as their way of reaching immortality does not mean it is the only way they discovered. We Muggles would have trouble grasping the concept of shredding our souls and placing them into phylacteries. Mummies are an easy concept for us, mainly because we have seen them, and know what they are.

The mystery of immortality could have been answered by the Ancient Egyptians by use of Horcruxes. It is a vile thing to do, and they knew it, which is a reason that it remained far from common knowledge, and why those who knew of them shudder to speak of them.

We Muggles would have trouble grasping the concept of shredding our souls and placing them into phylacteries.I believe the idea for that originated outside Egypt, but would have to do a lot of digging to find the topic that discussed that. Oh, and the use of phylacteries isn't such a difficult concept to grasp... :D (Go ahead, I dare you, do an Advanced Search of all posts for the word "phylac*". There are posts with the word back to August 2004. :agree: ) In Dungeons and Dragons, Voldemort would be a lich. :evil:

Nicole,

Perhaps the concept for "PHYLACTERIES" originated outside of Egypt. Perhaps the idea for a path to eternal life originated outside Egypt, too. But, perhaps, just perhaps, the idea of mummification was wrong, and the Egyptians discovered soul shredding afterward. Afterall, since the Horcrux maker does not die, there would be no body left behind.

As for the concept of "phylacteries"...I am not saying that those who either dabble in the occult, people who study archeology, or those who play roleplaying games would not not understand phylacteries. However, it is far easier for your common Joe to understand why someone would wish to preserve their body, as opposed to placing their lifeforce in an object, and how to do it.

You may know what a phylactery is, I may know what it is, but how many more would know what a phylactery is before they knew what a mummy is? They are not as much common knowledge. Perhaps some knowledge that has been buried in the wizarding world.

Well I think this theory just gained a lot of support by the cover art for the UK version of the 7th book. Hermione's and Ron's robes look distinctly Arab, specifically Egyptian to me. Also, a treasure room? Bill specifically mentions in GOF that he "bring(s) home lots of treasure." This treasure room on the cover must be in on of the Egyptian places that Bill went to as a curse-breaker.

I wonder if we will see the flying carpets?!

Now we're steamboating!!!

Speculation is that the treasure room that is depicted on the UK version is actually a Gringott's vault. Bill works for Gringott's as a curse breaker in Egypt. The background in the vault doorway is like a sunrise or sunset, so may be near an outside light.

Now we're steamboating!!!

Speculation is that the treasure room that is depicted on the UK version is actually a Gringott's vault. Bill works for Gringott's as a curse breaker in Egypt. The background in the vault doorway is like a sunrise or sunset, so may be near an outside light.


Of course Bill works as a curse-breaker for Gringotts, but I always thought that meant he worked more field jobs like going to pyramids and breaking the old Egyptian wizard curses to get to the treasure in them for Gringotts.

I think the treasure room is much more likely to be a pyramid. Look at the doorway - it's a golden color (sand perhaps) and cut into block shapes. That smacks of a pyramid to me; it sounds nothing like Gringotts. Besides, an Egyptian pyramid treasure room is guaranteed to be way more exciting than some old, clammy Gringotts vault. The Gringotts vault wouldn't explain Hermione's and Ron's robes either.

Egypt - here we come!

Actually, it would explain their robes. They look more like the ancient egyptian style of dressing robes.

However, I do not think that the room that is shown is a simple treasure room. At least not an ancient one from Ancient Egypt. The armor suggests that. It is not Ancient Egyptian, but more like medieval.

Looks like we are going to Egypt folks...This is where Ron's experience when he visited Egypt with his folks will come in handy!

Remember when Ron mentioned all the curses, and how Mrs. Weasley wouldn't let Ginny go into one of the vaults? I know he was telling Harry all about his trip, but JKR rarely mentions something if it's insignificant. Perhaps the Egyptians invented Horcruxes? Or that's where Voldemort learned how to create them?

Perhaps the Egyptians invented Horcruxes? Or that's where Voldemort learned how to create them?

That is why I started this thread. I think horcruxes originated in Egypt, and the secret to them lays there.

I really dont think Harry's going anywhere. It would really weird for Jo to suddenly move them to Eygypt. The first 6 books were placed in Britain, it would be a shock to me if they even moved around in the UK. If/when they go to a Gringotts place, I'm very positive it will be in Diagon Alley, where Harry first realized what magic was.

Bill's now living in the uk so why would Harry need to go to egypt?

There is one thing though, on the UK adult version JK is standing by a bookshelf and there's a book called Atlas of A... but I cannot see the rest. It could be an Atlas of Africa, she may have used it to look up Egypt.

It is not a question of where Bill currently is. It is a question of where the story has shown us important characters have been, and why?

JKR made a specific point of letting the readers know that there is strong magic in Egypt. This is evidenced by Bill working there for Gringott's, and The Weasley's visiting him after winning the 1000 Galleon Drawing at the MoM. Ron tells Harry that the ancient Egyptian wizards had some extremely powerful magic and wards on tombs and treasures.

Now, let us couple this with the cover art released for the U.K. version of Deathly Hallows that depicts the Trio bursting through a rounded doorway (which resembles the description of the vaults of Gringott's), but the backdrop is clearly outside in daylight.

Now, if we add in the factors that Egyptians were very into preservation of the dead and seeing to the immortal soul, then you can see that Horcruxes probably originated there. They perfected the technique. However, because of the heinous nature involved in making them, the Egyptians decided to bury this knowledge. Later it was discovered by Muggle archeologists, though they knew not what they had found. Yet, certain dark wizards did know what they found.

Well, if Harry does need to go to Gringotts or some other place in Egypt for something, he sure does have handy built-in guides in Ron and especially Bill who lived and worked there for years. I'm just saying.

No, me thinks Voldemort will keep all his Horcruxes in one basket...The UK!
Voldemort could have hidden a Horcrux in my work room and wouldn't have found it ever again!

and he and his friends have learned to apparate, which means a trip to Egypt could be near-instantaneous.

.Only Hermione has. Ron failed and Harry has only 'side-alonged'. He has had lessons but thats all. And I think flying on a broom will take too long. Though perhaps another portkey might take him there? :)

I doubt it, Harry has not spent any time abroad so far.

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Originally Posted by rigdoctorbri
and he and his friends have learned to apparate, which means a trip to Egypt could be near-instantaneous.



Only Hermione has. Ron failed and Harry has only 'side-alonged'. He has had lessons but thats all. And I think flying on a broom will take too long. Though perhaps another portkey might take him there?

Ah, but look at the cover art in the U.K. edition. Note the age in the faces of Ron, Hermione, and Harry. They no longer look like teenagers. They look like young 20ish age. Besides, even if Ron does not get his license, then he could ride along like Harry did with Dumbledore.

he can go any where he wants to. so yea i think he would go to egypt. but it is to hot i dont think he would want to go there.:cool: :p :drool:

Only Hermione has. Ron failed and Harry has only 'side-alonged'. He has had lessons but thats all. And I think flying on a broom will take too long. Though perhaps another portkey might take him there?

Harry successfully apparated in his classes but was still too young to take the test. Also, don't forget that Harry apparated from the cave back to Hogsmeade taking an almost incapacitated Dumbledore with him as a 'side-along' (not Dumbledore taking Harry). All three of the trio are capable of apparition, whether they choose to do it or not.

I don't think the trio are in their 20's in DH. The book will take place straight after the HBP and will probably last a normal school year like the other books.

Look, if you said that Harry will go to Egypt because the US cover, I can say that this place is not Egyptian-made.. It's kind of Romanian one or some thing ( Rome ). I'm from Egypt and I know how the Egyptian architect looks like.

About speaking of immortality and that may be connected by the ancient Egyptian, I had to say that may be Voldemort affected by the Egyptians some how but I don't think at all that Voldemort will travel to Egypt and hide his horocuxes there. or Harry will travel to Egypt.

I think traveling from country to another had some rules..It's not just apparating and then hooop..No, I think it will be more difficult and had rules.

Egypt would be fun. :)

I wonder what Voldemort would see in such a place, to make him want to hide a horcrux there. Pyramids would probably make good hiding spots... loads of magic, curses and stuff, ready-made. All that remains is to place it somewhere where the curses are so strong that no one dares enter except Voldie.

I'm willing to go along with the eygpt idea. I think it's a valid point that JKR uses very few red herrings - everything is picked up again somewhere along the line! So, look at the spine of the UK childrens version of DH, at the top there is a symbol, and if you have those books you will see that whatever is pictured in that position on the cover tends to be very important (ring on HBP etc) Any takers on what the symbol is and what it could mean???

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Look, if you said that Harry will go to Egypt because the US cover, I can say that this place is not Egyptian-made.. It's kind of Romanian one or some thing ( Rome ). I'm from Egypt and I know how the Egyptian architect looks like.

About speaking of immortality and that may be connected by the ancient Egyptian, I had to say that may be Voldemort affected by the Egyptians some how but I don't think at all that Voldemort will travel to Egypt and hide his horocuxes there. or Harry will travel to Egypt.

I think traveling from country to another had some rules..It's not just apparating and then hooop..No, I think it will be more difficult and had rules.

If you will notice the date that I started this thread, you will see that this is a theory of mine that took form long before the cover releases. However, after looking at the covers closely, I came to the determination that they appear to be in a vault, with an outside atmosphere, not like the Gringott's vaults in Diagon Ally, but somewhere else, and somewhere temperate.

I agree with you that the robes may not be Egyptian, but they do look far different than the descriptions made in the UK.

I don't see Harry going to Egypt. But I agree that there will be information from Egypt that will be necessary for him to continue the fight. I thought that the needed information was brougth to him when JKR brought Bill, the cusre breaker, to Harry.

Sorry I didn't see the date of the thread but as I saw that many people thought may be cause the US cover it looks like Egypt. And I say again that may be Voldemort is so keen in immortality like Ancient Egyptians but this doesn't mean that he hid a horocruxes there. May be he used or learnt some thing from them but not to hide a horocrux.

I agree with you that the robes may not be Egyptian, but they do look far different than the descriptions made in the UK.
Actually yes..It may be Arabian looking like not Egyptian. That reminds me some how by Aladdin.

You know after I wrote my previous post-reply I had the same inkling. Maybe the robes are not Egyptian, but they do appear to be some form of East or Middle East garb. Aladdin does come to mind.

Sorry I didn't see the date of the thread but as I saw that many people thought may be cause the US cover it looks like Egypt. And I say again that may be Voldemort is so keen in immortality like Ancient Egyptians but this doesn't mean that he hid a horocruxes there. May be he used or learnt some thing from them but not to hide a horocrux.


Actually yes..It may be Arabian looking like not Egyptian. That reminds me some how by Aladdin.

Actually I believe it was the UK cover that was inspiring most of the Egypt talk, more specifically the robes worn rather than the architecture. At least for me. I agree that they are definitely not in Egypt on the US cover.

Interesting theory and it's a possibility, however, for the time being I don't forsee Harry needing to go to Egypt. There is a chance that he might briefly visit there to gain information or to meet someone important, but he may find all he needs in England. Still it would be interesting if J.K. pulled something where the Deathly Hallows is or refers to Egypt, although I doubt it.

I don't think he'll go to Egypt either. I don't think that Voldemort would put a horcrux so far away, and I don't see any real reason for Harry to go.

This is pretty much exactly how I think about the topic. However, its an interesting theory.

Hi. Maybe the final battle will take place in Egypt, but if it doesn't, I think it would be a waste of time going there for him.

However, after looking at the covers closely, I came to the determination that they appear to be in a vault, with an outside atmosphere, not like the Gringott's vaults in Diagon Ally, but somewhere else, and somewhere temperate.

Good thought :)
As I said in the thread discussing the covers, my first thoughts were that the trio was in behind the veil, and the treasures that were in that place reminded me of the Egyptians, putting valuable stuff with the deceased to take with them in the afterlife. Meaning the stuff that was there was thrown trough the veil by the relatives of the deceased.

Maybe place behind the veil is something like an Egyptian pyramid? The deceased could rest in peace and treasure hunters would get lost in the maze and never get out alive (at least, that was the plan :p)

you know, maybe you are right.

It makes perfect sense.
Look to their outfits!I had actually thought about that before.
It would be so cool to see them outside England!Trying to "se virar"; i forgot in english:cool:
i was hoping he would come to Brazil ,but its too far .
If the book was a little longer i would take a risk and say they will go all around the world to look for the horcruxes.
But there is no way he would find them in just 608 pages.

I am going to rehash a related thought, brought up earlier about the afterlife, and those who have tried to prevent or circumvent the need.

Phylacteries, which is what horcruxes are, are vessles for keeping the lifeforce of a wizard, sorcerer, priest, or other powerful being in an effort to stave off final death.

For the Dungeons and Dragons fans you will identify this as the key possession of a Lich, an undead wizard or priest, who, before death, performed ritualistic spells to place their lifeforce in a valued object, so that they could live indefinitely, with all of their knowledge in life, and with immortality. To destroy the body of the lich only meant that the lich was out of commission for but a little while. However, to truly destroy the lich required the destruction of the phylactery (horcrux).

The concept of the phylacteries may be a relation to the vessles that ancient Egyptians used to hold the inner organs and necessities of life that the body would need in the afterlife. In the process of mummification the vital organs were removed because they would decay quickly, causing a breakdown in the condition of the body. However, all organs were necessary in life, so essential in death; they would place them in preservatives and stored in pottery.

This leads me to Harry's name "Potter". James Potter's name has yet to be given relavance to his character, as all HP names seem to project the personality or position of the characters. The Potters were people of at least moderate wealth considering the sizeable funds they left Harry. So, where did they get their money? I doubt that pottery in England would make many people rich, unless they make special kinds of pottery. Kinds of pottery that people would pay a fortune for. Such as the kind that would be needed to create a phylactery, a horcrux.

This is my special connection that I believe the Potters had to the horcruxes, and possibly to Egypt, where the secret for these wonderous vessles resides.

Actually I believe it was the UK cover that was inspiring most of the Egypt talk, more specifically the robes worn rather than the architecture. At least for me. I agree that they are definitely not in Egypt on the US cover.

look at the beginning date of this thread...You will note it was started long before the covers were revealed.

I don't think Eygpt is a place we'll see Harry go to next.

The book will take place straight after the HBP and will probably last a normal school year like the other books.

Not necessarily. The other books were a normal school year because Harry was still in school, and he said at the end of HBP that he's not coming back to Hogwarts as a student; it could be any length of time, from three months to one hundred years.

And this is JKR's imagination we're discussing. It is limitless. She could bring us to Mars and point out the obvious signs in the previous books.

Not necessarily. The other books were a normal school year because Harry was still in school, and he said at the end of HBP that he's not coming back to Hogwarts as a student; it could be any length of time, from three months to one hundred years.

And this is JKR's imagination we're discussing. It is limitless. She could bring us to Mars and point out the obvious signs in the previous books.

JK always follows a pattern, I cannot see that changing in book 7.

I think that would be cool for no other reason than it could make for a visually fascinating scene in the movie. I love ancient stuff and think that would be very cool to implement into the Harry Potter story.

Will Harry go to Egypt?

One of the Weasley's, Bill, I think, is a curse breaker for Gringot's Wizard Bank in Egypt. The Pyramids have many curses and jinxes. And, most significantly is the origin of the word Horcrux.

It is thought that it is a combination of the name Horus (Egyptian God of the Skies, and son of Osiris """GOD OF THE DEAD"""") and perhaps just the word crux, which means "the whole point". The ancient Egyptians were obsessed with immortality. That is why they mummified their people. They wanted to make sure they made it to immortality and had their body to take with them.

Lord Voldemort likens himself to be a god. He has altered his body, and shredded his soul to make himself immortal. Since Egypt has been mentioned, the significance of Egyptian curses has been mentioned, and Volde wishes immortality it stands to reason that Egypt may be a destination in the next book.

Interesting. Isnt Slughorns first name Horace? Pretty similar to Horus, God of the Skies. If we would have researched this while reading maybe we would have figured out a few pages earlier that Slughorn had a relationship to the Horcruxes.

Anyway, I dont think we will be travelling to Egypt. We havent left Great Britain yet, I dont see it happening.

One point I don't seem to see here is that Harry has a history of not asking for help from the obvious sources. Especially now that only he, Ron and Hermione know about the Horcruxes, he will go out of his way to find answers, when there are people right in front of him who could give them to him. Of course there is Hermione who is the wlking encyclopedia, and will do all her research, but this will take them the more adventurous route. (If Harry asks for help from others, usually it means we would not get a good story, so he has to be stubborn.) So maybe we will see the trio (and an elf) travel to other places where Voldypants did his "research".

I do not believe that Harry will journey to any other country besides Albania, and even then I am unsure. I simply do not believe that there is any reason for Harry to journey to a foreign country unless to search for Horcruxes, and I do not believe that Voldemort would have planted a Horcrux in Egypt or any other countries besides Albania and Great Britain. Also, it is incredibly debatable why Voldemort would even put a Horcrux in Albania, considering that is where he lived a horrid part-life, and his other Horcruxes (except one, which I believe to be Nagini) were already stationed in Britain.

However, I see no reason for Harry to go to Egypt. Although Phoenixes and Sphinxes are native to Egypt, I still doubt that Harry will need to go to Egypt to find Fawkes (considering I believe Fawkes to have followed Dumbledore into death). Also, since all he would need to do in Egypt is learn about its history and magical properties/skills he could find, he could easily ask Bill about it and the rest of the Weasley family, who vacationed there in PoA. He could also simply ask Hermione about Egypt, considering she would know an incredible amount about it, also. Therefore, I see no reason for Harry to feel the need to go to Egypt.

i doubt it

He might do that instead of going to hogwarts. there he'll probley be lookinf for the other pices.

Writers generally stick to what they know. Has JK ever visited egypt? Most of the other places in her books she has been too, scotland, kings cross, france.

Not necessarily. The other books were a normal school year because Harry was still in school, and he said at the end of HBP that he's not coming back to Hogwarts as a student; it could be any length of time, from three months to one hundred years.

And this is JKR's imagination we're discussing. It is limitless. She could bring us to Mars and point out the obvious signs in the previous books.

Right, and if you look at the UK cover art it appears that the faces of the Trio are no longer those of teenagers, but twentish aged people

Right, and if you look at the UK cover art it appears that the faces of the Trio are no longer those of teenagers, but twentish aged peopleWell I think your right. So maby the trio will really go to egypt.

Right, and if you look at the UK cover art it appears that the faces of the Trio are no longer those of teenagers, but twentish aged people

Yes but the trio are nearly in their twenties anyway, and I don;t think you can really tell how old they are from that picture.

Yes but the trio are nearly in their twenties anyway, and I don;t think you can really tell how old they are from that picture.

Perhaps not tell precisely, but it is clear that the artist made them appear older than teenagers.


On another note...here is some more interesting facts about Egypt that may pertain to the Horcruxes...WIKI Egyptian Soul (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_soul)

It shows that there are 6 known parts to the human soul, the 6th being the human body as the container...

There is a 7th part of the soul, but one that none are known to achieve...the human accent to godhood. The pharrohs already had the honor of Godhood, so that does not count.

We have seen several mentions of Egypt throughout the books. Most of them have been mentioned already in this post, but I haven't seen anyone yet mention the presence of the sphynx in the maze in book 4.

But I think the most important clue is this:

PHEONIXES ARE FROM EGYPT!! Come on, people - this SCREAMS a trip to Egypt for the trio.

We have seen several mentions of Egypt throughout the books. Most of them have been mentioned already in this post, but I haven't seen anyone yet mention the presence of the sphynx in the maze in book 4.

But I think the most important clue is this:

PHEONIXES ARE FROM EGYPT!! Come on, people - this SCREAMS a trip to Egypt for the trio.

Yes, the did import the Sphynx from Egypt...good point.

However, the Phoenix referrence is not an exclusive to Egypt. The Phoenix appears in pantheons ranging from ancient Chinese/Mongolian to Norse, with heavy referrences in Greek, Hindu, Hebrew/Jewish-Christian, Roman, and yes, Egyptian lores.

I do count the Phoenix referrences in my inclusion of Egypt as being an important setting for the final book, but the referrence to it could have been influenced by any of the above myths. Personally, I think the Phoenix is a Jewish-Christian referrence, but since the Jews were reputedly held in bondage by the Egyptians the referrence could cross over.

i think egypt and romania are definetly possible destinations but i also see harry visting another wizard school. He may go durmstrong and that may be where Victor Krum comes in. I think Victor may be a death eater.

There really are so many Egyptian associations in the series, but it does at first glance seem to be really out of character for JKR to send us out of Britain. But then I came across this as I am just rereading HBP:

HBP (US, HB, p. 503): " 'He made seven horcruxes?' said Harry, horror-struck, while several of the portraits on the walls made similar noises of shock and outrage. 'But they could be anywhere in the world -- hidden -- buried or invisible --' " (bold emphasis, mine)

This could be a JKR hint that indeed, we could be leaving Britain in pursuit of at least one horcrux.

Will Harry go to Egypt?

One of the Weasley's, Bill, I think, is a curse breaker for Gringot's Wizard Bank in Egypt. The Pyramids have many curses and jinxes. And, most significantly is the origin of the word Horcrux.

It is thought that it is a combination of the name Horus (Egyptian God of the Skies, and son of Osiris """GOD OF THE DEAD"""") and perhaps just the word crux, which means "the whole point". The ancient Egyptians were obsessed with immortality. That is why they mummified their people. They wanted to make sure they made it to immortality and had their body to take with them.

Lord Voldemort likens himself to be a god. He has altered his body, and shredded his soul to make himself immortal. Since Egypt has been mentioned, the significance of Egyptian curses has been mentioned, and Volde wishes immortality it stands to reason that Egypt may be a destination in the next book.
Interesting theory, but I do not think that Harry will go to Egypt... Egypt has never really come up, unless you count the trip that the Weasleys took there.

I think that Rowling would give us some hints pointing to the direction of Egypt...

I don't think they'll go to Egypt, I agree that they'll likely stay in Britain. Though it would be interesting to see another country, it seems unlikely that Harry would have any reason to go to Egypt, given that Voldemort's foreign hangout was in Albania. So if Harry were to look to a foreign country for Horcruxes, it would most likely be there.

Interesting theory, but I do not think that Harry will go to Egypt... Egypt has never really come up, unless you count the trip that the Weasleys took there.

I think that Rowling would give us some hints pointing to the direction of Egypt...

Actually, there have been at least three referrences to Egypt: the Weasley's trip; Bill's job with Gringott's in Egypt particularly the strong, strange curses and jinxes placed on the area by the ancient priests; and the Egyptians at the Quidditch World Cup.

Albania is a possible destination. Afterall, why was Voldemort hiding out there, when the rumors were in the Ministry's ears that he may have been there?

I don´t think one can aparate to egypt. it is too far away.
but the RoR is maybe a way to egypt. or the trio discovers Hufflepuff´s cup and it is a portkey.

I don´t think one can aparate to egypt. it is too far away.
but the RoR is maybe a way to egypt. or the trio discovers Hufflepuff´s cup and it is a portkey.

I don't think we have seen any cannon to suggest the limits of apparating. It could be infinite, or require only visualizing the destination.

We know that Voldemort travelled abroad, so why can he not have a horcrux in a different country?

I don't think it's a matter of can or can't but whether or not Voldemort would WANT to have a Horcrux in another country. Everything we know about him points to no. He's obsessed with Hogwarts, its founders, himself and his family vis a vis his "shameful" heritage.

I think that its possible that the Trio will go to Egypt, There are alot of hints in the books that relate to Egypt!...I think that Voldemort could of gone to Egypt and afterall it is known for its Dark curses and its obsession with the afterlife,underworld and most importantly Immortality. I believe that Voldemort would want to go there to learn more about Immortailty! And its possible that Voldemort would want to hide a Horcrux in Egypt, perhaps in a pyramid?..Which i think could relate to the Symbol on the spine of the U.K. Cover!..I do think that Voldemort thinks really highly of himself just like a king/Pharaoh does, and what better place to build himself a kingdom/hiding place then in the land where Immortailty mostly originated from?...And the word Horcrux does come from Egypt and i think that its possible that the Horcrux spell came from Egypt as well!..And i have to agree with someone that had stated Voldemort would not be wanting to hide a Horcrux in Albania..I don't think that he had a good reason to do so in the first place, I think that Egypt will interest Voldemort far more than any other Country besides britain!..And i believe that the Trio will use a portkey to get there!

IMO I agree that Harry will only go to Albaina and Great Britain to search for the Horcruxes I mean he could easily ask Bill ,Bill will help him find a Horcrux at Gringotts , he could also ask Hermione about egypt and read up on it in the Hogwarts library so I don't think Harry will go to EGYPT .

I can't wait to find out howJKR will solve this in book 7

it does seem plausable that harry will go to egypt. MAGICicalMUggle made some very good points.
there are a few refrences to Egypt in the books. but i think the big one is hermiones class: Ancient Runes! i think jkr has been building that up thourghout the books, and will play an important part in book 7. Another good point is that Bill Weasley is a cursebreaker! who else could help harry better.

And its possible that Voldemort would want to hide a Horcrux in Egypt, perhaps in a pyramid?..Which i think could relate to the Symbol on the spine of the U.K. Cover!.

Totally great idea magicalmuggle! if we look at the front cover though, we see strangely egyptian-looking dress robes and a pyle of gold. this at first seems like it would point gringotts as a horcrux hiding place, but it could mean egypt, though i think it rather means both..

I don't think that Harry will go to Egypt. It hasn't been a main location in the books and I think that Harry will search more familiar places first.

Your right, it hasnt been a main location. But that dosent mean it wont appear in book 7 or that its a guess way off the mark, it would link alot of things together, especially the sign on the book as someone else pointed out.

I do agree, if (hypothetically) Harry goes to Egypt, it wont be first, we know hes got a few places to go somewhere in the beginning of the book, the Dursleys, Fleur and Bills wedding...

Has everyone seen the UK Harry Potter website? When you enter, the symbol from the spine of the book is drawn in something that appears to be sand to me. SAND! You know what place has a ton of sand - Egypt!

I think the only place Harry could end up would be Albania, if he was drawn there to locate a possible horcrux. Otherwise I think he will remain around England in general.

IMO I agree that Harry will only go to Albaina and Great Britain to search for the Horcruxes I mean he could easily ask Bill ,Bill will help him find a Horcrux at Gringotts , he could also ask Hermione about egypt and read up on it in the Hogwarts library so I don't think Harry will go to EGYPT .

I can't wait to find out howJKR will solve this in book 7

As much as I am in favor of him going personally to Egypt, you bring up very valid points and possibilities. He may send one of his allies to Egypt or research it. Good one!


Totally great idea magicalmuggle! if we look at the front cover though, we see strangely egyptian-looking dress robes and a pyle of gold. this at first seems like it would point gringotts as a horcrux hiding place, but it could mean egypt, though i think it rather means both..

The Gringott's we know in Diagon Ally has its vaults underground, but in the cover art the background suggests that it is outside. There is a Tequila sunrise or sunset in the background, not a dark, dank cave. This could be the Egyptian branch of Gringott's.

I see your points, but I think that if indeed the origin of the word Horcrux is Egyptian, then the knowledge of how to create, and thus destroy one would be found there. This alone would make it worthwhile taking the trip.

Broomsticks or apparating, anyone?

Interesting thought. definitely possible! It wouldn't have to be a big part of the plot but still be a mention. Plus since Ron's already been there, he could sortof be a guide. Or maybe Ron's knowledge of what he saw on his trip to Egypt will help (and will impress Hermione!).

Also, something to consider is the thread on runes. The triangle in the spine of the book could be a symbol for ancient Egyptian pyramids....

what makes anyone think that harry willl go to any forigen country to look for horcruxes? I mean jo probably wont do that just to keep things simple.If I were voldemort I would hide them in different country's, but on the other hand voldemorts not as clever as me

I think that the only relationship of Egypt to the story in DH is to establish Bill's familiarity with ancient curses. I think he could have a significant role in this book. Otherwise, it's merely an illustration that wizards are both international, and ancient.

Interesting thought. definitely possible! It wouldn't have to be a big part of the plot but still be a mention. Plus since Ron's already been there, he could sortof be a guide. Or maybe Ron's knowledge of what he saw on his trip to Egypt will help (and will impress Hermione!).

It would be rather poetic for Ron to "one up" himself on Hermione by having knowledge that she does not. It would go along with the Ron/Hermione relationship.

Also, something to consider is the thread on runes. The triangle in the spine of the book could be a symbol for ancient Egyptian pyramids....

Good thought. Until you mentioned it, I had not looked so closely at the spine symbol. It does indeed look like a pyramid.

Did anyone notice the question about Egypt in the Grade 3 WOMBAT? Here it is:
The world`s largest Centre for Alchemical Studies is situated in Egypt. True or False.

I think it is very interesting that there was a mention of Egypt in the WOMBAT test, and doubly interesting that it is mentioned in relation to alchemy. I've always thought Hermione's alchemy skills and Egypt were going to play a huge part in book 7. There is a theory that alchemy originated in Egypt. Assuming the answer to this question is "true," I think Rowling is giving us a big hint.

I think that if Egypt plays any large role in DH, then Harry will go there himself rather than send an ally there, because it's very unlike JK to tell the story from the point of view of any character other than Harry.

However, I think Egypt will play a role, because the Horcruxes (well, the ring at least) have dark curses on them, and apparently the Curse Breakers are in Egypt. I'm thinking that Harry will run into one like this (Slytherin's locket, perhaps?), get himself injured somehow, and then realize that he needs to do some hands-on research to the origin and breaking of such curses and go to Egypt. Hermione has said that the ancient Egyptian wizards were really fascinating - I think this is too tantalizing of an opportunity for Jo to pass up. Perhaps Bill will go with him, both to advise him and introduce him to people he knows that could help Harry.

But in terms of transportation - Jo has said that the Ford Anglia will play a part in DH, and I think it will serve as their means of transportation for the most part. I think the trio will find it in the forest and it will decide to help them.

Interesting ideas and replies here! Okay so my opinion:
First: Rowling introduced Egypt a few books back as a loose and very playful subject matter. A vacation. A reoccuring theme in the books is the reapearance of objects or places that seem to be unimportant at the time. why would she have a Weasley working there and have the entire family go on the vacation? What significance did it have upon the plot of the book? It could have been anywhere, perhaps just keep it in Europe and have him working in Greece instead. Rowling didn't pick Egypt randomly, it has to have some significance to the story. It may be the place where a horcrux is hidden or it may simply be a stop to find a clue along the way. The symbol on the cover art to DH has also been suggested to be an egyptian hieroglyphic structure by other posters and as far as I can tell they could be true as it has the potential to be a metamorphose of some created amulet. I believe that based on this it is possible that Harry will go to Egypt, however I could be horribly wrong too so...