View Full Version : What, if anything, would disappoint you in Book 5?
Pansy
June 18th, 2003, 7:26 pm
I did a search, didn't find this topic, but thought since we are so close to June 21, it would be fun to reflect on this topic. What, if anything, would you find disappointing in Book 5? I thought this was sorta fun, since we've thought of and discussed so many theories... it might be difficult and disappointing to digest the "real thing" on the first read.
I'll start... I think I will be slightly disappointed if for some reason the Dursleys turn out to be important and/or a part of this "Order of the Phoenix" thing, if its purpose is to protect Harry from Voldemort. I think they treated him so poorly all of his life, it would be so completely inexcusable if that now in Book 5, we find out that they really love Harry and are looking out for his best interests.
Just a thought. I'm sure most of the book won't disappoint in the least, but that would be annoying to me. Would love to hear some other thoughts. Enjoy.
Anne
June 18th, 2003, 7:32 pm
Sending this over to the Common Room... :)
daniel4hp
June 18th, 2003, 7:35 pm
I'd probably be disappointed if the "Heir of Gryffindor" theory was true. I just don't like it; its to simple. But I suppose it would be okay if JKR managed to do it in a good way...
Narvi
June 18th, 2003, 7:35 pm
I don't want Harry to get a girlfriend. Don't know why. : )
kfingers
June 18th, 2003, 7:36 pm
I dont think it would be that bad. DD believes in "all types of training for Harry" as Rowlings says. Think about how humble it has made him in the face of all this fame that would destroy most young wizards because of growing up with the Dursleys. I think it would fit into the plot fine whether they were just jerks or really like him, but I think their role in book five will not be as negative, and I feel juusssttt fine about that.
Pansy
June 18th, 2003, 7:36 pm
Originally posted by daniel4hp (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=381499#post381499))
I'd probably be disappointed if the "Heir of Gryffindor" theory was true. I just don't like it; its to simple. But I suppose it would be okay if JKR managed to do it in a good way...
Yes, this one bugs me too. I guess everyone jumped on this "heir" theory because they made such a big deal of the Heir of Slytherin in the second book. If JKR wrote it in a good way, then I guess it would be OK.
Sorry about posting in the wrong forum.
EDIT:
Kfingers: I see your point, but I just think they were too over the top in being mean to him. I mean, he really was abused emotionally. Of course, it has made Harry a stronger person, but having the Dursleys turn out to be on his side is like saying its OK to abuse a child. Perhaps I've let too many theories behind the Dursleys get to me. See what I mean? LOL
JustRelax!
June 18th, 2003, 7:37 pm
In my head i've kinda worked out what kind of people Mundungus and Figg will be, i'll perhaps be a little dissapointed if they turn out to be the complete opposite.
Also i would not like Hagrid to die. As i see it he's kind of been there since the very start of the series and he only deserves to stay right until the end, in my opinion.
Saying that, i'll probably get over any dissapointment really quickly and appreciate the book for what it is.
Mr Ollivander 382
June 18th, 2003, 7:43 pm
Originally posted by Narvi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=381500#post381500))
I don't want Harry to get a girlfriend. Don't know why. : )
May be because you want him to have a boyfriend .......... :angel:
wwwooohhhhhhhh ............. :evil:
have I said much ....... :sorry: ........ ?
I was kidding ........ ;D
.
Narvi
June 18th, 2003, 7:45 pm
I have no response to that. ;-)
remus81
June 18th, 2003, 7:51 pm
I would cry for days is Lupin dies.
I would hate if there was not a lot of house elf stuff.
And I would be disappointed if my Book 5 predictions for the contest don't pan out. I really want to win! (sheepish smile)
Ecthelion
June 18th, 2003, 7:52 pm
If at all, I think I would be disappointed if Dudley has magic. I really hate this theory for some reason. Why I hate it I think has to do with Harry always being one up on dudley because he is magical and dudley is not. If Dudley is magical, then that forfiets all of what Harry has built up over the years. Plus, magic is what makes Harry different and unique but if dudley has it too, to me, it would take the ring away from Harry being a wizard.
Just a bunch of impulsive gut feelings but I really hope it doesn't happen!
Narvi
June 18th, 2003, 7:57 pm
Ooh, maybe Dudley has magic but ends up killing himself accidently. hehe. Now that'd make me laugh...
Hula
June 18th, 2003, 8:01 pm
Originally posted by Ecthelion (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=381542#post381542))
If at all, I think I would be disappointed if Dudley has magic. I really hate this theory for some reason. Why I hate it I think has to do with Harry always being one up on dudley because he is magical and dudley is not. If Dudley is magical, then that forfiets all of what Harry has built up over the years. Plus, magic is what makes Harry different and unique but if dudley has it too, to me, it would take the ring away from Harry being a wizard.
Just a bunch of impulsive gut feelings but I really hope it doesn't happen!
I agree. I don't want any of the Dursleys to turn out to be magic. It would be wrong.
I'll be so sad if Sirius dies. He's top of my list of Characters It Is Not Acceptable To Kill Off, even before Harry! I really really want him to be cleared. I don't care when he's cleared, he just has to be.
I'll also be slightly disappointed with the Heir of Gryffindor thing too, it's been done to death in fanfics and just seems too simple.
remus81
June 18th, 2003, 8:01 pm
I agree Ecthelion. I see magic as a gift, and I don't like teh idea of Dudley getting such an amazing gift. What has he done to deserve it?
Sortiri
June 18th, 2003, 8:04 pm
Sirius dying is the worst thing I can imagine. To me that would kill any sense of justice and good, triumphing over evil. I also think I would cease to be an HP and JKR fan if it were to happen. I dread reading of Sirius death more than anything else (yes, even more than Hagrid's death.)
Aoife Diggle
June 18th, 2003, 8:17 pm
I'd be dissappointed if any of the silly way out there theories that I've read and made up myself turned out to be true! I like reading some of them but they were never meant to be true!
remus81
June 18th, 2003, 8:37 pm
Ha ha! Well said, Aoife Diggle! I would be very disappointed in JKR did not out smart every single one of us!!!
ShadowFawkes
June 18th, 2003, 8:39 pm
Personally, I would be very dissapointed if Snape turned out to be untrustworthy. Dumbledore's had three teachers that he trusted turn out to be bad, so lots of people have been predicting that he was wrong to trust Snape. I also would be extremely dissapointed if Sirius died, he's such a rich and interesting character, I'd want to know more about him before he dissappears, you know?
Aoife Diggle
June 18th, 2003, 8:40 pm
Exactly I've built her up so high at this stage I'm expecting something totally unexpected from her :D Even though this is probably going to be totally impossible as a couple of a million people have had 3 years to guess so someone somewhere must have gotten it right!
Hopefully not though :D
Guardian Angel
June 18th, 2003, 8:44 pm
I would totally be dissapointed if Harry and Hermione would become a couple. I know it won't happen, but I'm just answering the question.
I would be probably dissapointed to see some deaths. There are people who don't deserve to die and I have a feeling that JKR will kill them...
And I'd be completely dissapointed if Voldemort would turn out to be Harry's grandad, Dumbledore as well, Hermione his long lost siter, etc.
remus81
June 18th, 2003, 8:50 pm
I think I would be disappointed is Snape is bad. All of this time I have spent making excuses for his bad behavior, if I am wrong I'd Be mad.
I also agree with Harry/ Hermoine love thing. THAT would really make me mad!
hythloday
June 18th, 2003, 8:57 pm
I would be disappointed if all the "raging hormones" in Book 5 took over and made the book a teen romance novel. As I've said before, I have absolutely no interest in various love matches in the story. ;) However, I have faith in J.K. Rowling not to do that!
If Sirius Black died, I would be very upset.
I'd also be slightly disappointed if the "Heir of Gryffindor" theory was true exactly as fans have posted, because it was way too easy to come to that conclusion. If that's true, then it was possible to figure out the ultimate goal of the books way back in Book Two. :( If it has to occur, make it part of some massive twist that we aren't expecting.
All in all I just want a surprise. I've never been able to correctly guess the "Bad Guy" or the final situation in each book, and if I figure it out before the end of Order of the Phoenix I'll be disappointed.
MagpieOnaga
June 18th, 2003, 8:57 pm
Quoting JKR in the snippet of her interview TLC posted earlier today...
Commenting on the speculation there's been about how the Harry Potter series might end and what will become of Harry and his friends, JK Rowling told Paxman:
JKR: There is one thing that if anyone guessed I would be really annoyed, as it is kind of the heart of it all.
And it kind of explodes everything - and no one's quite got there, but a couple of people have skirted it.
You can watch the full interview with JK Rowling on BBC TWO on Thursday 19 June at 7.30pm.
I would be dissapointed if some aspect of book 5 led people to GUESS what that "one thing at the heart of it all" was. I really, really hate the idea of fans guessing the most important secrets before they come about. It sounds like we've come close, and I'm worried that something in book 5 will clue people in on JKR's big revelation.
Puffskein
June 18th, 2003, 9:17 pm
Did she just mean the key to book 5? I assumed she meant the secret that explains the whole plot of OOTP, like Scabbers being Pettigrew explained POA. If she did mean the heart of the whole series, someone will almost definitely get it after OOTP, if they've skirted it already.
harp230
June 18th, 2003, 9:18 pm
As long as whatever happens is well written and logical, I will not be disappointed. Horribily distraught and upset is another thing though.... T agree that sirius death would be the worst. I have though prepared myself for the possiblilit and I think i could compose myself enough to not throw the book away. i know i would at least pull the book out of the garbage....
kfingers
June 18th, 2003, 9:48 pm
i agree with harp. I think all of you are being to critical of what might happen. A lot of the things you all mention could happen because they have been hinted at the whole time. Just because a lot of issues or possible theories have been talked to death in here doesn't mean they will not be a part of the book. I don't know if the books were ever meant to be picked a part as much as they have been, but as long as anything is well written, makes sense, and comes with a bang like it always does, I'm ready to sit back and trust J.K.
Pansy
June 18th, 2003, 10:35 pm
Originally posted by MagpieOnaga (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=381752#post381752))
Quoting JKR in the snippet of her interview TLC posted earlier today...
Commenting on the speculation there's been about how the Harry Potter series might end and what will become of Harry and his friends, JK Rowling told Paxman:
JKR: There is one thing that if anyone guessed I would be really annoyed, as it is kind of the heart of it all.
And it kind of explodes everything - and no one's quite got there, but a couple of people have skirted it.
You can watch the full interview with JK Rowling on BBC TWO on Thursday 19 June at 7.30pm.
I would be dissapointed if some aspect of book 5 led people to GUESS what that "one thing at the heart of it all" was. I really, really hate the idea of fans guessing the most important secrets before they come about. It sounds like we've come close, and I'm worried that something in book 5 will clue people in on JKR's big revelation.
I'm so glad you posted that quote from JKR, I was just thinking that. So, to me, that quote directly relates to book 5 as well as the plot of the series. And it is encouraging that no one has guessed it!
I too would hate to see Sirius die. NO NO NO!
Virtuousdream
June 18th, 2003, 10:50 pm
No offence to all the theories because some are excellent, but I would be disappointed if they came true, though I have full faith in JKR outsmarting us all! It just adds to the magic of the book, never being able to work out what will happen and constantley being let on wild goose chases
Capella
June 18th, 2003, 10:54 pm
I would hate to not be surprised by the ending too. If people have worked out a little of it that's fine, but, please, not the whole plot! 'Twould be terrible to be unshocked by whatever JKR has up her sleeve. Even Harry being the Heir of Gryffindor would be okay, so long as there is much more to it than just that.
DarlingChild
June 18th, 2003, 10:57 pm
I will be disappointed if the "heir" theory is true as well. I will also be disappointed if Harry becomes a Prefect and.or captain of the Quidditch team. He gets too much attention as it is...it would seem a little too cliched (to me) if he became a Prefect and the Quidditch captain. *shrugs*
Even if those things DO happen, I know I won't really be disappointed at all ;)
remus81
June 18th, 2003, 11:02 pm
Well, he is the main character, but I agree, I don't think he should be prefect or captain of Quidditch. He just doesn't have the qualifications for either.
Hinkypinker
June 18th, 2003, 11:28 pm
Originally posted by remus81 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=381730#post381730))
I think I would be disappointed is Snape is bad. All of this time I have spent making excuses for his bad behavior, if I am wrong I'd Be mad.
I also agree with Harry/ Hermoine love thing. THAT would really make me mad!
me too...
Mostly though I thikn I'd be dissapointed if my copy showed up Saturday morning with Blank Pages...I'd like to think I'm ready for anything JKR wants to Throw at us.
But i Just know We'll get a Curve ball
And Snape better be like...a Saint...Turning out to be good beyond Belief..like...The reason Nobody has ever seen his Private Rooms is because its overrun with Baby Kittens he's nursing back to health Good.
Otherwise I'll cry.
jglovesdolphins
June 18th, 2003, 11:44 pm
I think that the only thing that would dissapiont me is if Ron and Hermione ended up going out and then Ron and harry aren't friends anymore.
chrissy2crazy
June 18th, 2003, 11:56 pm
I don't want a Hermione/Harry relationship to ever occur... and I also, if Harry was both Heir to Griffendor and Slytherin, that would be WAY too corny and predictable. Lupin and Sirius - I hope they will never die...
I hope J.K. has something with spunk and and a plot with twists and turns in it for us - and I bet she does!
:) :p
GryffindorGurl34
June 19th, 2003, 12:32 am
I'd be dissapointed if some of the rumors that Harry will go crazy and start ignoring his friends came true.
Moontrimmer
June 19th, 2003, 12:40 am
I would hate it if Harry is the heir to Gryffindor. Thats just to predictable. Well I wouldn't hate it, but it would be a bit annoying. Oh yes, and the Durselys really being good thing, that was posted earlier. Other than that, I don't really care.
Rowena Ravenclaw
June 19th, 2003, 12:46 am
Most of the heir theories except Harry being the Heir of Gryffindor would bother me. Yes, it's too easy, but at least that means there's evidence for it. I'm also not fond of the secret magical relatives stuff. I refuse to believe Lily and Hermione have been set up as Muggleborns just to provide a plot twist.
marspeach
June 19th, 2003, 12:47 am
More annoying house-elves would definitely irritate me. I at least hope there'll be no more Winky.
Moontrimmer
June 19th, 2003, 1:13 am
Originally posted by marspeach (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=382401#post382401))
More annoying house-elves would definitely irritate me. I at least hope there'll be no more Winky.
She probably will be in the next books . She's linked to Crouch and knows some stuff about Ludo Bagman, and I kno we haven't heard the last of those two.
pineapple
June 19th, 2003, 1:18 am
The thing thatv would really irratate me (besides the basic things that many people have posted) would be to have a huge cliff-hanger at the end of Book 5.
The other four books ended nicely (although some questions were still left unanswered, but I beleive that's necessary), with the only slight cliff-hanger I can remember being what happened at the end of GoB. I just don't think I could handle waiting as long as we have had to again with a bunch of huge questions jumping around in my head.
So, I would really like to see this book have an obvious ending like the other four have.
kfingers
June 19th, 2003, 3:05 am
I agree with hinky, I trust Rowling to put in anything, whether Harry is a 'heir' or whatever because nothing ever seems "played out" when she writes it. It will come with its usual well-written format that has a bang and a surprise. Sometimes I feel like so many crazy ideas get thrown around, b/c we've all gone nuts waiting for this fifth book to come out, and what actually happens might seem kind of tame. I say whatever she decided to write, will be just fine.
tizzy weasley
June 19th, 2003, 3:25 am
I won't like it if they say Harry is the heir. And if anything bad happens to the Dursleys, that would be horrible, who would Harry go to then?
But for the most part I trust JKR not to disappoint us.
kfingers
June 19th, 2003, 3:30 am
Yeah, lets lead a stop theorizing about harry potter movement. Or something, b/c the greatest thing about the books for me was always being totally surprized. To clarify: I am not proposing this will actually work.
MagpieOnaga
June 19th, 2003, 3:32 am
Originally posted by Hinkypinker (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=382205#post382205))
And Snape better be like...a Saint...Turning out to be good beyond Belief..like...The reason Nobody has ever seen his Private Rooms is because its overrun with Baby Kittens he's nursing back to health Good.
Otherwise I'll cry.
Hahaha...
I hope that was intended as a joke, because that was hillarious. It literally made me laugh....:lol:
Doggy
June 19th, 2003, 1:02 pm
I won't like it if there's too much "love" and "looks" and stuff. That's been one of the the good things about the books; almost nothing of the usual stuff you find in any teenage book you pick of a shelf. The Harry Potter books have been so much about traits and characteristics - loyalty, bravery etc., and it would be a real shame to spoil it all now, by sticking lots of girlfriends and nights in towers and make up etc.
Maybe I've got the wrong idea. But this is what I think...
lorna
June 19th, 2003, 1:10 pm
Theorizing is fun especially when you get to find out just how off the mark you really are.
Personally, there are a number of theories I'd be disappointed to see come true (mostly as I think they are to soapish) but my all time least favorite is that Snape-Lily-James triangle explanation for Snape's dislike of Harry.
Please there has to be a better reason than that.
Pucko
June 19th, 2003, 5:00 pm
i think JK will find a way to make it good no matter what...
but it swould be a bit dissapointing if trevor was an animagus...she already used the kid's-pet-is-an-animagus-omg! theory
Hinkypinker
June 19th, 2003, 5:54 pm
Originally posted by MagpieOnaga (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=382719#post382719))
Hahaha...
I hope that was intended as a joke, because that was hillarious. It literally made me laugh....:lol:
Well thats a better theory Than "Snapes a Vampire and His Private room is a Closet with a coffin in it" Besides....like someone else said, I've put too much time and effort in Excusing Snape's actions against Harry...
So yeah, its only a teensy weensy joke
MagpieOnaga
June 19th, 2003, 5:58 pm
Oh, I wasn't laughing at your theory -- personally, I'd like to see Snape turn out to be a good guy as well. It was just the way you said it....or maybe the mood I was in last night!
Fleur
June 19th, 2003, 6:17 pm
If most of the theories discussed here were correct, and JKR did not have any surprises, I'd be extremley disappionted with her. The books usually have so many surprises, I really want this one to have it's fair share too.
luv_HP
June 19th, 2003, 9:24 pm
Originally posted by remus81 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=381539#post381539))
I would cry for days is Lupin dies.
who wouldn't? i'm so scared that he will though... the evidence!! :'(
lucius malfoy's gonna be bigger, he has to be.... i'd hate it if they didn't expand on him.... :no:
also with all the fanfics i've read, i've formed such an opinion on all of the characters, so if it's different, i'm gonna be upset (than again, who won't be, ya know?)
Earendil
June 19th, 2003, 9:58 pm
I'm worried that the "raging hormones" will get out of hand and turn into a gigantically angsty love triangle-ish soap opera. I have no problem with a reasonable amount of regular teenage drama, but if I see something nutty like Harry and Ron fighting over Hermione when the entire wizarding world is under the threat of an evil uber-villain, I won't be a happy camper. As long as they're kept under control, the hormones may rage to their heart's content.
Other than that, I'm trying not to have too high expectations, because I don't want to be disappointed at all. I'm basically restricting my expectations to: the book is almost 900 pages long, we've had to wait three years for it--it better be good. And if it isn't, well, there are still two more books to go.
Michelle
June 19th, 2003, 10:05 pm
I don't want any heir theory to come true. It's just too...easy!
Arabella
June 19th, 2003, 10:22 pm
I think that if Sirius or Lupin died I would be severly dissapointed. I do like Hagrid and Molly but I would rather see one of them kick the bucket before Sirius or Lupin simply because Sirius and Lupin were Harry's parents best friends in school and who would be able to tell Harry more about his parents than them. Sirius has become my favourite character in the books, for some reason, while I was reading PoA I knew Sirius was innocent. Sirius is the closest thing to a parent that Harry will ever have and I don't want to see Harry lose him so soon after finding him.
remus81
June 19th, 2003, 10:46 pm
HinkyPinker, you are now my favorite. I think at this point I would be disappointed if Snape was NOT nursing sick kittens back to health in his back room!
raptor
June 19th, 2003, 10:54 pm
I would be more than a little dissapointed if the last lines are '...and they lived happily ever after. THE END'
But seriously, if the Dursleys turned out to be people I had to feel sorry for cause they were really good deep inside. That would dissappoint me because I love to hate them! lol
Cheers ;)
Pansy
June 19th, 2003, 10:59 pm
Originally posted by Michelle (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=384637#post384637))
I don't want any heir theory to come true. It's just too...easy!
I agree, but then again, isn't it amazing that so many fan fics have touched on so many similar theories? Does anyone think they fed off one another, or could that many people in the world really think similar things will happen?
Arabella I love Sirius for the exact same reasons... he's the closest family Harry has ever had. I think he will be safe though, heck, he's managed to stay alive this long with Voldemort in the world.
Snape nursing sick kittens... that is good! :rotfl:
lorna
June 19th, 2003, 11:00 pm
just an aside - who thinks that with the number of theories floating about that by sheer dumb luck one of them might be right.
Pizza In A Cup
June 19th, 2003, 11:34 pm
I would HATE to see anything terrible to happen to the Weaslys...that's the only thing I dont really want to happen.
girl_wizardry
June 20th, 2003, 6:49 am
At first I was really convinced that Colin Creevey will be the one who will die in the fifth book cos he's obviously a huge fan of Harry's but ever since Rowling's interview when she said she shed tears when she wrote the death of that certain someone, I immediately knew the character was important in the books...so I would be reaally disappointed and sad when I finally find out who's going to die...gee my heart's throbbing already. Suspense!! The Hoorrroorr.....
I also agree about the Harry/Hermione thing. No offense to the Harry/Mione shippers but still, them as a pair..it'll be waay too predictable and easy. And Rowling is always full of surprises so...I'll be alright if Ron and Hermione were a couple..it'll be cute but I expect more surprise and more twist and turns you know? Draco and Hermione seemed like an unlikely couple but still it'll be nice...won't it? Hee...:sorry:
PhoenixUK
June 20th, 2003, 8:47 am
Colin Creevy would be way to obvious anyway.
*Glitterstar*
June 20th, 2003, 9:32 am
Id be a little bit annonyed if JK Rowling decided to end the series there.Iknow there are the 7th and 6th book's still to come ;)
But immagine if it was a trick! ID BE DEVASTED ;(
InvasionOfTheGuru4
June 20th, 2003, 10:14 pm
I agree with DarlingChild - Harry gets enough credit and attention as it is.
SiriusPig
April 6th, 2004, 6:49 pm
That one of my favorite characters in the book would die like in the fourth with cedric diggory.I hope that sirius black does not die or anybody else that is cool.
LunaStar_1000
February 18th, 2005, 12:50 am
:rotfl: hahahaha.....just thought I'd remember old times! This must be a very old thread because book 5 hadnt come out yet. Well if I'd known then that something WOULD dissapoint me and that it would be Sirius's death I wouldn't of wanted to read the book. Oh well maybe when book 6 comes out and we're waiting for book 7 we'll come back to a thread similar to this one and just think how clueless we were about the HBP.
xXillusion
February 18th, 2005, 12:55 am
Yeah I thought it was weird that people guessed on Sirius' death.
crystal_joy
February 18th, 2005, 1:02 am
Strange reading people's theories about book five...
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