Dumbledore's Army

[Morgoth]

Oh how cool were they, then? When I first saw the name and the group of guys joining, I immediately saw parallels with the Order itself, what with it being a secret society brought together to train against evil forces. What made it so good, was that Harry was such a good teacher that I think he would make an amazing DADA teacher in later life. But, I sidetrack. The actual group was pretty awesome especially when a group of them went to the Ministry of Magic and started fighting with the Death Eaters, which seriously impressed me especially Neville who really did come out of his shell when Harry taught him. I expect Harry's tuition will single-handedly give the members of DA pass marks in their OWLs, which is something to be proud of.

What was your opinion of the DA?

[lanifiel]

They Rocked! It was a high-light to see how far Neville progressed, it was really that good!! I think Harry should be teaching DADA to the first years, or at least helping out, he rocked as a teacher!

[dumbleedore]

I loved DA! Me thinks major Neville storyline... I want to join DA!

[Ren]

I think the D. A. was such a great way to give Harry an outlet in the book. But I think these particular people are going to be very important in the next books. Thank goodness they have some DADA under their belts. Will they continue practicing in the next books?

[marspeach]

I loved the D. A. I definitely would have joined if I went to Hogwarts. I knew Marietta was going to be the one to squeal.

[lex romero]

why did she squeel though? was she scared of bring caught? did she not think they were important? oh well at least by the end of the book she still hadn't got rid of those spots.

[Amina]

i couldn't help humming 'dumbledore's army' to the tune of 'oliver's army' *l*

*sings* dumbledore's army is on their waaa-aaay
dumbledore's army is here to staaaa-aaaay

i do, however, think it was a very good idea, and yes, a foreshadow of a new ootp, or something similar. harry is a brilliant teacher, and (should he live) he would make a very good dada teacher

[mystically_mad]

Harry would rock as a DADA teacher or an auror. I LOVED DA, it was so mad. I would have joined upas well if I could have. Who else felt an intense hatred of Marietta when she sqealed?

[Max]

The DA was great! It would come in very handy later on, definitely. Neville was really surprising. It was as if he was given a sudden boost of confidence -- he seems to be a very competent wizard now.

[mystically_mad]

Yes, I loved the way that Ginny and Neville both seemed to become more confident.

[Tarawyn]

The Army was a good idea (and one some people hit on before, sort of). I think the choice of title was a hint in itself - as soon as they decided to call themselves Dumbledore's Army, I knew that Fudge was going to end up dragged into it.

I wonder if the Army will keep up? Not as just an alternative to DADA class (for grade and serious reasons) but because it's a good idea whether or not they're being taught. With all the precautions from the Ministry...I think that if it does keep up, it's likely to expand. Harry does look like a pretty good teacher. He knows what he's doing and I think that was the best inspiration the DA had.

[Nick]

I liked it, as I like all fun secret societies and hidden things. I can't help but wonder, though, how many of the members will no longer be with us by the end of the series.

[Weatherby]

I loved their new group. It was a perfect way to get to know more students and I've always been disturbed by the lack of Dada education.

[EmilyRose]

I believe they're going to become very significant. I mean..

..They were cool. Very neat.

Voldemort is going to have to attack the school, you realize. Dumbledore has a power over him--everyone knows Voldemort is afraid of Dumbledore. He needs to do some drastic action to prove that no-one scares him.

Dumbledore's Army is going to be part of the defense.

And the children of the Death Eaters... they're not going to just stand by.

I expect we'll see something like the Junior Death Eaters at Hogwarts eventually.

But in the meantime, I expect we'll see them stay on as a sort of school club--they're perfectly within the rules, once that Umbridge woman's work is undone.

[Mr Ollivander 382]

Originally posted by EmilyRose (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388063#post388063))
And the children of the Death Eaters... they're not going to just stand by.

I expect we'll see something like the Junior Death Eaters at Hogwarts eventually.



we have already seen the Junior Death Eaters in action at Hogwarts .
what do you think the 'Inquisitorial Squad' was about ..... ?

they were all from slytherin , and most of them with strong links to the Death Eaters .... :devil:

I think we will see more of them , they were overt in this year having the upper hand, now they will become covert having lost the backing of the authority .... !


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[Anne]

Dude, D. A. rocked! This was definitely one of my favorite parts of the book. Just something about it felt so right. It was written so very well and added a lot to the development of Hogwarts. It's so good to see Harry have some non-Gryffindor friends. The Hufflepuffs are so cool!

[Wingardium Leviosa]

Yeah, the DA was great, and it really led me to believe that Harry could be an auror. If you noticed, all the OWLs that he had to do well in were easy, like for potions it was about polyjuice potion, so maybe he will get an 'O' and be able to continue for NEWTs and become an auror.

[MadMagic]

I loved Dumbledore's Army. For me it was one of the higlights of the book. I didn't realize that Harry was so goog at DADA, although I should have figured. I hope they keep it going on in the next books. And I hope that they are provided with a competant DADA teacher who will be able to help D.A. to get better and learn more cool stuff.

[Braden]

The DA was beyond cool!! When it was first suggested i thought it was just a joke, a good idea, but a joke. Man was I wrong. I kept hoping that there'd be more but since there wasn't I really hope they return

[Wingardium Leviosa]

At first I was worried that everyone would think Harry was being arrogant and thinking he was better than everyone, but I'm glad it all went well. They won't really need to carry it on though, as they are likely to have a competent DADA teacher next year. Well, maybe they will...

[Lestrange]

mystically_mad, I did hate Marietta, but Cho more, she was the one who persuaded Marietta to go to the meetings, disregarding the fact that it was REAL. Not just some thing that she can go to to look at Harry and point out how cute and brave he is.

All that being said....I loved Dumbledore's Army!!! Especially the fact that Neville really came out and performed so well....I hope they recruit more members in the 6th book....They're definetly gonna help if and when Voldemort attacks the school.

...I know this isn't the right topic for it, but did anyone think that Neville's incompedent-ness at magic was the fact that he had his father's wand.....?

[mrpink]

I think that eventually (if / when he defeats Voldemort) Harry might become DADA teacher at Hogwarts, that would really annoy Snape!!

[mrpink]

ps., I agree about Nev.'s wand, I wonder what his new one will be made of?

[Spitf1re]

Call me crazy, but I would actually like to have a completely incompetant teacher for DADA like Lockhart or Umbridge. This way Harry could reinstate Dumbledore's Army. I personally like reading about the D.A. more than I do about a regular DADA class. Even if Harry gets a good teacher in his 6th year, I hope the DA comes back. After all, a little more practice couldn't hurt.

[EmilyRose]

I don't put Junior Death Eaters on the same level as the Inquisitorial Squad.

They were there to cause trouble.

I expect the Junior Death Eaters to be there to try and attack the school from the inside. We all saw how happy they were when Halfbloods and Muggleborns were being attacked...

..What if they take matters into their own hands?

Now, I expect DA to be there to counteract this, but one of Dumbledore's other weaknesses is his unwillingness to refuse any students. Not in the way the Slytherins mean, referring to those who aren't pure-blooded... but in not refusing students whose intentions he -knows-.

Back on topic, however...

...Dumbledore's army was well arranged. I expect we'll see more of them, and their growing importance...

..But will they ever be affiliated with the Order, or just with the school?

[adonaichild]

I was so proud of Neville! I was like "YOU GO!" But yeah, that was awesome that they formed an underground resistant movement. I hope that Fred and George get in the Order now that literaly left school! lol

[Moah]

Anyone else noticed DA was just a continuation of Lockhart's "Dueling Club" idea?

[tizzy weasley]

I was so happy to see that they had a little ary of their own...and named it after DD. IT was brilliant! And Neville...he just surprised me...he was doing the spells/charms/jinxes and all. Very exciting. And what really shocked me was in DD office when he said that he put together the army. It was truley amazing.

[ChaliceInnana]

It was a great idea!

I can't believe that practial dueling isn't a part of the curriculium anyway. It was great to see Neville bloom like that.

They are an army that Dumbledore would be proud to claim.

[H0gwartz]

Neville is my new number one playa! Neville was so cool, and he was actually brave in this novel. Not to mention the D.A. was the coolest thing in the world!

[Raven]

I LOVED Dumbledore's Army! Totally awesome, and something that I really wanted to see JKR do. I loved how at the end, several members of the group went with Harry to fight the final battle. That way, for once, it wasn't just Harry against the Dark Order. Made things more realistic.

[periwinkle-blue]

The new DA is absolutely a good start of what JKR intended to reveal about the future of Hogswart. A solid new root for those who are still in school to join the forces against the Dark Lord's power. Way brilliant to nick the plot out and weave it from Umbridge's evil supressions.

[FlamingFuryOfXHope]

I LOVED the D.A

When I saw those people in it, I knew that one of the main themes of the book was indeed friendship..loyalty and unbearing sacrifice. It rocked so much.

[Tarawyn]

One more thing it emphasized was inter-house cooperation and friendship. It's possible and probable for the future. More, it shows how Slytherin is left out of that possibility. The organization is preparatory for defense against Voldemort and the like, and the Slytherins either don't need that defense or will be ashamed, afaid, or unwilling to reach out for it. It's a small picture of the school.

[pineapple]

The DA was awesome! I loved how that group of kids took matters into their own hands, no matter what the consequences could have been!

[DarkKnight]

well I was hoping the book would bring back a dueling club or something

DA is i supose the next best thing... AH! who am I kidding it was great.

only I did hope to see knew curses

[Godric Gryffidor]

I loved the DA! It was such a good idea of JKRs! I hope she keeps it in 6&7... By the way does anyone know what 6 is called yet? I heard JKR started on it already. Wondering if she released the name.

[winky]

I think the DA will become an intregral part of life at Hogwarts!!! Who wouldn't want to go to a student-run practical study group like that. I'm pretty sure that some members (Marietta, Cho, Micheal Corner etc.) will quit- the ones who were there for superficial reasons. But I'll bet they'll get more next year. And they'll have support from the school next year!

[flibbertigibbet]

The DA was awesome. My favourite thing in the book, I think. Partly because they were doing it under Umbridge's nose, partly because having a secret defense society is just so darn cool, and partly because of the way everyone in it just blossomed. I mean, the teachers doing the OWLs were so impressed by Harry's Patronus, but he was able to teach the others to conjure it as well! And the wonders it did for Neville... I am just full of praise for it :)

And, side note - I agree with Lestrange that Neville's problems with magic may have something to do with the fact he's not using his own wand, although I think we've seen that what's more important is having confidence in himself. Ron didn't have his own wand at first, either, and he managed okay.

[Crystal]

Originally posted by Lestrange (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388275#post388275))

...I know this isn't the right topic for it, but did anyone think that Neville's incompedent-ness at magic was the fact that he had his father's wand.....?


WOW great minds huh?
The minute I read that it was his dads want I thought "That's why he's so bad!" Same with Ron, he improved when he got a new wand!

[MadMagic]

The DA rocks! I think it is definately a way to form inter-house friendships and cooperation, although Slytherine doesn't seem to be involved. I wonder if there is any way it can continue now that Dumbledore knows about it.

[Eternal]

I loved the D.A. Watching the parallels between the generations was such a joy for me, with Order of the Phoenix, the Marauders, and now Dumbeldore's Army. I believe, and strongly hope, that the D.A. will play a continuously important role in the upcoming books. I'm extremely eager to see Harry and his classmates follow in the brave footsteps of their parents and teachers. Now that my dream of Dumbledore and the "old school" crowd actually fighting has come true, I'd like nothing more than for the younger generation to ban together and resist the Dark Lord.

[Kneazle]

Originally posted by Anne (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388123#post388123))
Dude, D. A. rocked! This was definitely one of my favorite parts of the book. Just something about it felt so right. It was written so very well and added a lot to the development of Hogwarts. It's so good to see Harry have some non-Gryffindor friends. The Hufflepuffs are so cool!

I completely agree. Dumbledore's Army was amazing. I loved the underhand training and the secret defiance of Umbridge-- the whole idea of it is so satisfying. I was so proud of Harry for his teaching skill, and so proud of the members for doing well and learning quickly (Neville especially). And with the Room of Requirement-- how cool was that?!

[Raven]

I can just see the D.A. becoming an intrical part of future plots. They are probably the only group of students with a sturdy foundation in the basic battle spells. At first they (fourth and fifth years, no less) couldn't even do a proper Disarming spell. Now they have worked their way up to Patronus's (Patroni?) What they need now are stronger spells. Better curses, better shields.

[DarkKnight]

OK just one thing I was wondering that..wasn't it supposed to be very dificult to conjure a patronus... and that only very talanted wizard really mastered it... isn't it a bit odd that almost every one in DA managed to conjure very defined patronus' and I doubt cho would be on the powerful side of the wizarding world

[Raven]

I knew that it was advanced, but not so advanced that it couldn't be learned by the majority. Plus Harry does seem to have a knack for teaching.

[riddikulus]

plus they were doing patronus charms outside the presence of a dementor or other threat, which i think must make it a LOT easier.

[Yavanna]

I was so proud of the class, especially that Harry taught it and they were all successful. I was suprised that Lavender joined, I thought Hermione said that she didn't believe Voldemort was back? Well, I was so proud of Neville, and of Fred and George when they kept "expelliarmus-ing" that annoying kid's wand. But I was mad that the others, like Umbridge could find the room, but I guess she was thinking "let me find those troublemakers" when she was near it, so it let her find it.

[remusjlupin1980]

I can't help but wonder if there'll ever be a good guy from Slytherin. Apart from Snape of course (if you count him as 'good').

I don't think Draco will ever be redeemed unless something REALLY HUGE happens in Book 6.

[MissFlibble]

I think that the DA will continue to practice, keep recruiting new members (like when Dean recruited Seamus), and play a large part in the remaining books. I LOVE the DA! Especially at the end when they all curse/hex/jinx Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle!

[Ashkins]

It seems as Harry's circle of friends is growing. He is no longer with just Ron and Hermione. It can only mean his troubles are going to get bigger as this one was when they faced the death eaters in the MOM.

I hope he does recruit more people and maybe DD will give him some advice as what to teach the DA.

[Raven]

Another really nice thing about the DA is that it is all practical. It was nothing but a lot of concentrated work on defensive spells.

[Grace Granger]

I loved Dumbledore's Army. I hope he is very proud of it, too. Which I'm sure he will be. I knew they were going to get caught, it was only a matter of time.

I liked how it showed that at least with respect to DA you can trust the "applicants." None of them betrayed Harry except for Marietta. I was thinking that perhaps Zacharias would be the one to say something, but even he didn't. When you really think about she didn't have to go and tell Umbridge all she had to do was tell Cho she didn't want to go anymore for whatever reason. She was such a wimp and it's good that Hermione put the hex on her. I believe she deserved it.

I have to agree with someone, can't remember who sorry, who said that Cho was probably in DA because of Harry or something like that. I agree, I don't think she had a clue what she was getting into so long as Harry was involved and she wanted to show her "support." :rolleyes:

I will definitely be expecting DA in book 6.

[Puffskein]

Dumbledore's Army is on the way, Dumbledore's Army is here to stay...

It was great to see the students taking matters into their own hands and rebelling against the tyranny. It was also wonderful to see how Neville blossomed with the extra support and confidence. If Snape thinks he's toughening Neville up by bullying him, what we see in the DA proves that he is WRONG!

[Ame]

The DA was probably one of the best things to happen in the book. I instantly caught the connection to the Order of the Phoenix, as well as the connection to the Sorting hat's song about the houses staying together. But unless all members of all four houses join than it may ultimately fail. The sorting hat's song was so eerie and foreboding. You couldn't help but remember it. I know for sure the DA will show up again, and they will be very important.

[tyro]

indeed, BIG UP THE D.A! But here are my thoughts: -
1.)They were only doing it becuase they weren't receiving sufficient practice is class

B U T

they may just keep it going for er, fun. And it is good to see Harry's band of friends growing. What would be cool if it grew to an enourmous size and then the Junior Death Eaters could face off against them, yeah!

Thats another point, i think Dumbledore was letting the JDE's in before becuase the actual DE's had;t been convicted. but now they have ben, so maybe they wont be returning, but it just wouldnt be Hogwarts without Draco and co.

[Sherlock Holmes]

When Ginny suggested "Dumbledore's Army" as their name, I immediately made the connection to Fudge's crazy suspicion of Dumbledore, and knew that name would make trouble later.

Still, it was a great idea, and shows that Harry & Co. aren't the only ones who are smart enough to see the truth and want to do something about it. About Neville...he seems to have a bit of a fire lit under him now, and is really concentrating on working hard. Though he still didn't have a great showing in the battle at the Ministry. As for the Room of Requirement, I think that was my favorite part of the whole book!

Tyro, Dumbledore is the sort who refuses to judge based on stereotypes or guilt-by-association. The kids of Death Eaters may be suspicious, but they're not guilty...yet.

[dan_r]

I liked the bit at the end when Malfoy and his cronies where gonna attack Harry and the DA came to his aid.... that was a great scene

[Prof.Aze]

It was cool. Imagine being in a group and be teached curses and all those stuff. If i was a student at Hogwarts and heard about it. I would probably the first one to join.

[Kenshin]

Assuming D.A. continues in future books (which I hope it does), I wonder if Dumbledore will decide to be a "guest teacher" or something. It would be pretty cool since he knows a lot of useful stuff. At their next meeting, Harry might tell them what stuff he saw Dumbledore do with his duel with Tom and then the group'll get all excited and stuff.

[mystically_mad]

Originally posted by DarkKnight (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=390075#post390075))
well I was hoping the book would bring back a dueling club or something

DA is i supose the next best thing... AH! who am I kidding it was great.

only I did hope to see new curses

Well Harry was only teaching them curses they are already meant to know so he couldnt really teach them anything new.

[vickygirl4]

Yeah, they do kinda parallel the order, don't they? I never thought of that. THat's really cool! But why did that stupid girl tell Umbridge? I'm so mad at her!

[Max]

I'm under the assumption that Marietta told Umbridge because her mother work's for the Ministry ... and then she finally cracked and told Umbridge. Foolish ... but I think that she's a person who couldn't keep a secret.

[moon_lit_raven]

i think that when and if the junior death eaters attack the school from the inside the DA will be there to stop them, cause the Ootp is to busy to be dealing with "kids". But Dumbledore might make the DA, Ootp agents or something like that, cause he can't know everything that is going on in the school at once, can he? then they could continue there lessons and find out who the junior death eaters are.

But i also think they will be important when the school gets attacked by voldie cause its goner happen, so that he can prove that he is not afaird of any one.

[RiddleWolf]

i recon it was a really great way to rebell against Umbridge without too many nasty concequences. and it brought some confidence into Neville, who is great by the way, and we really get to see that he can live up to his parents which his grandma thinks impossible.

and we see what a great teacher harry is and perhaps this is also hinting a future career?

anyway, the name was great too.

but the real charm was with Neville, oh what a little DA can do!

plus the St Mungo's bit where Neville keeps the sweet-wrapper his mother gives him is a very good complement to his DA performance. it sort of shows he wants revenge and that he still loves his parents even in the state they're in.

that brought a tear to me.......

::sniff::

[lorna]

The DA was one of my favorite parts of the book. (actually books)
I really liked seeing the kids start to get past the "house" thing and be a little more proactive. And I agree this is exactly what the Sorting Hat was getting at. That dividing the kids into houses really hasn't done the school any favors in the long run.
My only quibble, again, ------ is every Slytherin really bad? Could we not be more cliche?

[ObsessedHarryFreak]

The DA ROCKED! And I was SOOO happy that Ginny had come up with the name (she's my favourite character)!

I think it was absolutely brilliant that JK included a parallel to the Order. Because, yes, that's what the DA is. I was very fond of the idea of Harry teaching the others all his expertise. Some of Harry's anger was actually due to the fact that he was barely getting recognition for his great feats, and by Hermione acknowledging the fact that Harry was, indeed, excelled in DADA I think that lessened his anger...in some way or another.

I loved that they named themselves Dumbledore's Army because they were standing behind Dumbledore 110%, and I adored the whole idea and gist of it.

Harry, in my opinion, is an EXCELLENT teacher. He knows more than he should, though, really....:D

Is it just me, or does anybody else adore this avatar thingy: poke:

[remusjlupin1980]

Let's compare the two shall we?

The Order of the Phoenix:

Sirius Black
Dedalus Diggle
Elphias Doge
Albus Dumbledore
Arabella Figg
Mundungus Fletcher
Rubeus Hagrid
Hestia Jones
Remus Lupin
Minerva McGonagall
Alastor 'Mad Eye' Moody
Sturgis Podmore
Kingsley Shacklebot
Severus Snape
Nymphadora Tonks
Emmeline Vance
Arthur Weasley
Bill Weasley
Charlie Weasley
Molly Weasley
HOUSE-ELF: Kreacher - also traitor

Dumbledore's Army:

Hannah Abbott
Katie Bell
Susan Bones
Terry Boot
Lavander Brown
Cho Chang
Michael Corner
Colin Creevey
Dennis Creevey
Marietta Edgecombe - SNEAK
Seamus Finnigan - LATECOMER
Justin Finch-Fletchley
Anthony Goldstein
Hermione Granger
Angelina Johnson
Lee Jordan
Neville Longbottom
Luna Lovegood
Ernie MacMillan
Padma Patil
Parvati Patil
Harry Potter
Zacharias Smith
Alicia Spinnet
Dean Thomas
Fred Weasley
George Weasley
Ginny Weasley
Ron Weasley
HOUSE-ELF: Dobby

I think we'll be seeing more of them in the next book.

[pasalita]

originially posted by Tarawyn
I wonder if the Army will keep up? Not as just an alternative to DADA class (for grade and serious reasons) but because it's a good idea whether or not they're being taught. With all the precautions from the Ministry...I think that if it does keep up, it's likely to expand. Harry does look like a pretty good teacher. He knows what he's doing and I think that was the best inspiration the DA had.

I think it’s imperative that the DA keeps up as an official school club or organization, now that Dumbledore is back in charge. I mean, considering the appalling lack of proper DADA classes, this generation of students desperately needs opportunities to crash course the spells Harry has taught in the DA.

I totally dig the DA, not only that it represented a grass roots effort to better oneself and to fight the “man,” or in this case, the wo-man (i.e. Umbridge), but that Hermoine, not Ron, nor Harry, nor even Fred or George, came up with the idea in the first place. In other words, not only was the DA great for what it represented as far as a place for characters like Neville and Ginny and what not to hone their skills in defense against the dark arts, or that Harry has this opportunity to turn what came out of something negative into something positive, but that it represented a huge milestone in Hermoine’s evolution of character. I dig that she’s so proactive, and that the Gryffindor in her is coming out more and more.

[Tarawyn]

It really is nice, to see a more proactive Hermione. It's also nice to see that she loostened by how she reacts to situation, but her intelligent, somewhat nervous character frame stays the same - as I hoped and predicted it would. She came up with the idea, but she was uneasy about letting it go forward, and kept trying to say that Ron or Harry had come up with the idea...she's changing, and she's still the same, which is a relief. But that's starting to run off-topic.

If the DA continues and/or expands - and I'm hoping it will - then maybe we'll see Hermione playing a more active role in it. She was working a little like a secretary during this book, and a more formal role would suit her too.

The DA wasn't only a crash course, though. Even if the inconsistency and poor teaching was wiped away, and the kids had had competant teachers who had helped them through the last few years, they would need more - the mindset that Harry was trying to inform the DA of, how to utilize what they've learned, etc. The DA is purely practical, which is what's really needed.

[Fritz]

The D.A was great and Neville really impressed me. I think that he will play a bigger role in the coming books.

[superjess]

What about Madame Maxine? Isn't she in the Order of the Phoenix? I mean she went with Hagrid to talk with the giants. And she tried just as hard as he did to get them to side with Dumbledore.

[pasalita]

Originally posted by Tarawyn (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=399807#post399807))

The DA wasn't only a crash course, though. Even if the inconsistency and poor teaching was wiped away, and the kids had had competant teachers who had helped them through the last few years, they would need more - the mindset that Harry was trying to inform the DA of, how to utilize what they've learned, etc. The DA is purely practical, which is what's really needed.


Yes, "crash course" may be a little too over-the-top. ;) I do hope that the DA remains simply because it allows students to apply what they've learned.

[Rosie B.]

I really enjoyed the D.A. in this book and I was wondering what the chances were of it continuing in the next books.

From what I can tell it might not happen. For one thing, with a new DADA teacher they might not be nessisary and Harry might be preoccupied with somthing else.

However, even if the D.A. isn't going the members might play a part in the next books. What do you think?

[preludetoadream]

I think some of the members will play quite large parts like Neville and Luna but not all of them.

[Sirius83]

The D.A. may be dissolved, but who knows. However, the 6 that went into the MOM will definitely play a role later on...Harry, Hermione, Ron, Neville, Luna, Ginny.

[bwaybound83]

I see the D.A. as having a part in the war. I think that more or all will really become a part of Dumbledore's army and help fight the Death Eaters. I also see some of them dying while ifghting the good fight.

[Veritaserum]

I can see the DA becoming a scholl club that anyone can join. I'd like to see it expand into something like the duelling club!

Veritaserum

[Arissya_00]

I hope it gets really big and then go out and fight those **** death eaters and Voldemort.

[animagus1369]

Originally posted by Rosie B. (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=401062#post401062))
I really enjoyed the D.A. in this book and I was wondering what the chances were of it continuing in the next books.

From what I can tell it might not happen. For one thing, with a new DADA teacher they might not be nessisary and Harry might be preoccupied with somthing else.

However, even if the D.A. isn't going the members might play a part in the next books. What do you think?


If it exists at all, IMHO, it will probably be in a much smaller form, the "new mauraders"/2nd generation core of the Order.

[Carbito]

They will play some roles but apart from the trio and ginny, neville and luna I don't think they will have a major impact on the plot.

[Quidditch Capt.]

They are the younger generation of the order in my oppinion. I think that they will continue, and do to their great leader and many who have indevidual talent/potential they will be a force to be reconned with. I think they will play a large role in the last few books.

[mystically_mad]

The DA was great and it never hurts to have as much protection as possible. I think it is a start to what the Sorting Hat was talking about and now we just need some Slytherins in there. Is anyone thinking of the stringy haired kid who could see thestrals as well?

[Ollivander]

i thought the DA was really cool.. but i didnt like some of the people in it... like that one git.. im too lazy to look up for his name.... but everyone knows who im talkin about... always criticized Harry.... that git and cho and her dumb friend..... it was a really cool idea tho

[hermiones mum]

Has Dumbledore suggested the idea to Hermione. He has distanced himself from Harry, but has he let go of everything. Although it was Ginny that suggested that the group affiliate themselves with Dumbledore.

[Ollivander]

i dont think the DA needs to continue... if they get a real DADA teacher.... if they get another moron.... then they should continue.. however i do believe that the people in it will have a stong bond from it... possibly it will come to some use later....

[mystically_mad]

zacharias?
I dont think DD suggested it.

[Yasif]

This was one of my favorite sub-plots in the book, Harry's Defense Association aka Dumbledore's Army
I loved how it brought so many of the kids together and how much they improved at practical DADA. I have some thoughts and hypothetical questions for you guys, and I'll go ahead and give my own opinions on them

• Will the DA continue?
I'd have to say of course :rolleyes: Dumbledore knew about it and obviously supported it by finding all those loopholes when Harry got in trouble for it.

•Will the DA become "official"?
Will the DA become an official club like the other clubs we've heard about? I think so, and I think it will become a much bigger thing when it goes public, even incorporating Slytherins (much to our displeasure)

•Will Harry continue to head up the DA?
Yep, and I also think the Neville could play a part in the management of it too, and maybe someone we don't know yet.

•Will we see another Hogwarts student surpass Harry in DADA skill?
Possibly. Hermione and Neville come to mind, but JKR introduces quite a few new characters in each book so it could be someone we haven't met yet

•Will Cho stay in the DA?
Hmmm. I don't know about this one. There's two reasons she might: Because it gets bigger and less personal, or because she's actually dedicated to learning practical DADA. Either way, I don't think this will increase the chances of Harry and her getting back together.

•Will Zacharias improve his attitude?
I dunno, I sorta hope he continues to be the brunt of some jokes, those gave me some good laughs in OotP :rotfl:

Of course this isn't limited to just the ones I posted.

[Yasif]

Oh, and another one I meant to add was

•Will the DA become a sort of trainee program for the Order?
I hope so :) This seems like a great idea to me.

[jpratt1979]

Will the DA continue?
I agree with you. I think now that it's absolutely official throughout the wizarding world that "Lord - Thingy" is back, Dumbledore will want to make sure that the students at his school are prepared to face him.

Will the DA become "official"?
Like I said above, I think it will. The students at Hogwarts will need to be prepared to face everything.

Will Harry continue to head up the DA?
I think so. He still has the most experience of everyone else in combatting the Dark Arts.

Will we see another Hogwarts student surpass Harry in DADA skill?
I doubt it.

Will Cho stay in the DA?
I think so. She was in it out of sincere desire to learn to combat the dark arts. The fact that Harry was leading it was just an added bonus. Quite Frankly, I still have a glimmer of hope that She and Harry will end up together (once he figures out that he shouldn't talk about Hermione in such high regards with her).

Will Zacharias improve his attitude?
Hopefully everyone will have a better attitude now that the truth is out.

Will the DA become a sort of trainee program for the Order?
It might be, with only the most elite members of DA actually making it into the Order.

[Phoenix_Fawkes]

Well When Malfoy was going to attack Harry on the train some D.A. members protected him and jinxed Draco. Mabye thats some forshadowing...?? Mabye they will help Harry in the future?

[Arissya_00]

Yes, I definately think that they are like the younger generation of the Order and should continue to learn, train, and fight so that they can carry on the work.

[Tarawyn]

These are some very good questions, so I'm going to merge this into another thread on the DA. :)

Edit - and I'll merge another, too...

[Tsar]

I agree I would think that

Harry will lead the DA and that Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, Luna, and Susan Bones will take lead as the leaders of the DA.

I think the DA will be divided into sections

Healers/Seers
Neville
Ginny
Luna
Lavender
Parvati
Cho

Warriors
Harry
Ron
Fred
George
Dean
Angelina
Alicia
Katie
Justin
Terry
Susan
Michael
Zacharias
Anthony

Potions/Charms
Hermione
Seamus
Hannah
Padma


Spies
Marietta
Dobby

Communications
Colin
Dennis
Lee

[Aoife Diggle]

Again like a lot of other the DA was one of my favourite sections of the book. Seeing Neville come into his own thanks to Harrys teaching was wonderful to watch. In the future books I think Neville will continue to progress the way he is going at the moment, especially as the prophecy could have been about him too. JK wouldn't have mentioned that if it wasnt important.

Anyway back to the DA, it was great to see Harry teaching others all the spells and jinxes that he's learned. It sort of makes you feel slightly more safe, knowing that there are some competent students going around at Hogwarts!

[hermiones mum]

Will DADA become just DA in Hogwarts now?

Will Harry get extra lessons to help him cope with his future responsibilities from Lupin or trained up in the old ways by Dumbledore....

[zebo]

Even though Fudge had to admit that Dumbledore was correct with the return of Voldie, doens't mean he still isn't powerhungry. Fudge might still see DD as a threat So I find it quite unlikely that DA could be anything official, unless they (re)name it (back) to Defence Assosiation or something else..

(sorry if someone has menitoned something like this before, I'm too lazy to read all the pages...)

[miri]

I can't see them changing the curriculumn, but I can see them keeping up DA (though maybe under a different name... ;) )

I can see either a teacher (or DD himself) helping out, but I can also see Hermione reading up on things and the trio (+ Ginny, Neville and Luna) mastering them then teaching them to others too - but I don't know if they'd have the time for that... It's possible that Dumbledore will help them make time though.

[Raven]

Maybe they will offically call it the Defense Association, but still think of themselves as Dumbledore's Army.

[seerius]

Well, i guess the next obvious question is "who do they get to teach DADA in book 6?" I mean, if they got a decent defence teacher, they wouldn't really need DA would they? Though i'd like to see it continue...

[IThinkNot]

Well I skipped the first couple of pages so I will register my opinion here:

DA RULES. It was an excellent idea and I hope it will continue. The scene where they all take off running because Umbridge is coming--- I was tensely turning pages thinking "Run! Go! I want you guys to survive! Way to go Potter!"

:) Good idea!

[Siriusly_Addicted]

I LOVED the DA, particularly Neville's improvement.

I think it will remain, even if they don't get a decent DADA teacher (and except for Lupin, when have they ever?).

One reason is because it gives the chance for additional practice at actually using the spells, and you can never have too much practice at that kind of thing.

The other reason is because the DA actually promotes the inter-house cooperation and friendships that DD has been wanting for so long. I just don't see him disbanding; that seems be self-defeating.

I don't know if they will get a good DADA teacher. They haven't had much luck recently, given how everyone talks about the lack of applicants. Lupin would be the best choice, obviously, but he does have that little werewolf issue. They can't get another Auror, because they'll all be busy with Deatheaters now.

I think Harry will be getting a lot of extra tutoring from DD and McGonagall, and he may pass some of it along to the DA, but I just hope there's someone halfway competent for the others.

[PrtVeela]

I got warm fuzzies knowing Neville was doing so good...weeee....

fine FINE i can take a hint...I'll start a D.A. and you all can join...as i am clearly not smart someone will have to take the reigns for me as leader :::wink wink:::

[Scotlandking85]

When J.K. Rowling said that one of the students was going to become a teacher, I thought, "Neville Herbology." Now it seems to be very probable that Neville (should he be the foretold teacher) might be teaching DADA.

[DogStar87]

My immeadiate reaction was "wow" this is really amazing.... Harry was using his talents to do something truly useful and Neville, oh boy the way he learned! Harry was able to offer him something no other DADA teacher could offer him at the was confidence. And the outcome was great!

I think Harry would be a great DADA teacher, but personally I want to see him become an auror.

[IThinkNot]

He could be both. Be an Auror--- then retire to become the Defense Against Dark Arts teacher. However if this were to happen we would see it only in an epilogue chapter, because 7 is the last book and that's the end of his school years.

Bummer!

[girl_wizardry]

I think it is so cool!! It was such a pleasant surprise when 26/27 people came into Hog's Head, interested. It was cool! I wanna join one!

Anyway yea i think he'll be a great DADA teacher. He'll be the best DADA teacher beside Lupin! For someone his age, already teaching the group the Patronus...oh boy oh boy!

[Yavanna]

Yeah, I read all those names and didn't realize that it added up to 25. Can you imagine how many people that is??!!

[remusjlupin1980]

What do you think are some of the spells, jinxes, hexes and curses they learned over the course of six months in the D.A.?

Here's a list of those mentioned/implied in the book:

Disarming Spell (Expelliarmus)
Stunning Curse (Stupefy)
Impediment Curse (Impedimenta)
The Shield Charm (Protego)
Reductor Curse (Reducto)
Silencing Spell (Silencio)
Jelly Legs Curse (used in The Goblet of Fire)
Trip Jinx (used by Malfoy on Harry but they're likely to cover it as well)
The Patronus Charm (Expecto Patronum)

What else did you think they covered?

[Jaded_Wanderer]

I'd say basically that stuff, though I don't know that everybody mastered them all. What about the bat wing one of Ginny's...or did she already know that one? I think they'll come handy in the near future though. They probably practiced the basic wand movements and aim and that kind of thing, too.

[Euthrel]

I think that Harry told them alot of the fears involved.

And what happends when they face a death-eater...and VOLDIE!

[Drusilla]

Did anyone else feel like cheering when all those people came rushing in,and when Ginny suggested the name?It was brilliant,more than ever when the Six took on the Death Eaters,and I think Harry should keep it going even if they do get a decent teacher for the subject next year.

[Pigwidgeon12]

Hey sorry if anyone has said this yet but I think that the DA was connected to the sorting hat's new song. All the people coming from differnet houses and uniting like that was just what the sorting hat was asking for! Go them! The DA was an awesome part of the book! I also, like so many others, loved seeing Neville coming out of his shell. My cousin suggested to me, and I agree, that the reason he did so well because he wasn't scared of Harry like he is of some many other teachers, like snape. Harry should definitly become a DADA teacher or a auror in the future! I also agree with the theory that the members of the DA will again help to fight Voldemort in future books, and possibly even help Harry when he has to fight Voldemort and kill him or be killed. Just look at how they helped him in the Hogwarts Express at the end.
Sorry again if anyone has mentioned that stuff about the sorting hat. I agree with anyone who has!

[Gwendolyn]

I loved the DA, I think it showed Harry becoming a true leader now and that's what I've been waiting for. I also like the idea now that he has an even larger group of friends to fall back on if he's in trouble (like when Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle attacked him!)
I thought the idea of the coin changing with the date and time was so cool too, more secrety-stuff!!!

[too_wicked]

I was impressed with Harry and Hermione with their ideas of the DA. Harry teaching the other students spells was really impressive. I didn't know he really is that good in DADA. Hermione's SNEAK curse and the changing galleons were really clever.

Even if I want Harry to teach a subject like the DA in the curicullum, I don't think Dumbledore will do it. He thinks Harry has a lot of responsibilities ahead of him and Dumbledore wouldn't want to add something on Harry's shoulders.

[sone]

How Harry and Hermione organized the whole thing was incredible. They are even more gifted than I thought.

[dudemanthing]

The D.A. was awesome! I would have loved to create a secret society under the nose of the ministry as well! I wonder if its here to say. Wouldn't it be cool if it became a real sort of deuling club, in later books!

[Katie_Bell]

I, like many others, hope that the D.A. continuesinto the next books. I loved that J.K. made me feel like Harry when she said that at one pont he only cared about the meetings and lived for the next one. I think they should all continue, but if nothing else he should at least still coach Neville, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny. That'd be awsome.

[FredRocksMySocks]

LOVED IT! And...I've also flirted with the idea of harry being a DADA professor. He always said Hogwarts was his home, right? Wouldn't that be fun!!

[Amanalcariel]

I loved it! I wish I could join. :(

[Prof. Bumblebee]

i'd love to join the DA

[wahsup86]

I really haven't seen any threads on this yet, but like the topic says, do you think he will? In my opinion the D.A. was made for dual motives:

1) Because of Umbridge obviously.

2) With harry being banned in this bok, it was a replacement for Quidditch.

However in the new book he will have a new Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher and be able to play Quiditch again, I'm not sure if JKR will bring back Dumbledores Army. Just looking for the opinions of others. Personally I feel she won't bring it back, even though I would like to see it again.

[Euthrel]

Well..
Creating DA was one of the greatest things he had done (he thought) and he always looked forward to their meetings.. I think that they will continue..

[lorna]

I hope the DA stays. It was one of the best parts of OotP and I really, really liked the idea of the kids from the various houses working together.

[TheEvilOne]

It seems the same to me it was to give Harry something to do....It would be a little more crazy for Harry to be doing the whole DA and Quidditch and have a competant DADA teacher..Although I would like to see it come back..The DA rocked!!!!



:devil:

[remus81]

Well, I think the existence of the DA will depend largely on the quality of the new DADA teacher. Hmmmm.... DA is half of DADA, interesting.....

Yeah, anyway, I think that the DA will always be close, but if they have a DADA teacher worth his/her salt, there is really no need.

[Ecthelion]

Yes, as people have said here, whether or not the DA is continued waits on the arrival and skill of the new DADA teacher. And until then, we really can't make a fact-based (and mostly assumption) theory.

However, I think that it may continue anyways, even if there is a competant teacher, just as a club that is relatively open to everyone, or just the current members. (minus the "sneak" and probably cho) I can't help but think that the members will undoubtably be much closer and have a type of aquantence that is superiorly different than any other and will undoubtably work to each member's favor at some point in the future.

Besides that particular scenario, I am willing to be that the DA will emerge once again, but probably transformed or altered to fit the times better.

[kkkb]

I don't think the DA was put in just to 'give Harry something to do'. I think the folks in DA will end up in the final battle, helping Harry with Voldemort's demise. I think the forming of the DA will prove to be important; after all, these people will probably be the future Order of the Phoenix.

[tuvas]

Anyone think that the DA will have any future, or was it's existance soley to make Umbridge mad? I've got a hunch that it'll continue somewhat, but not quite so underground, perhaps something of the Order of the Phoenix for children, maybe Dumbledoor'll give his approval, who knows. Thoughts anyone?

[remus81]

I think you may be right about them being the future Order, kkkb.

Look how important some DA members have already been. 5 went with Harry to the Dep pf Mysteries- Ginny, Hermoine, Ron, Luna, and Neville. They have already begun the fight against the Deatheaters.

[Will Weasly]

I think it'll continue. Afterall, Voldemort is still at large, isn't he? I think Dumbledore'll still allow it, and he won't punish Harry or his crew. I think he'll make it an official Club or Society that way they can hold meetings and what not.

[firebolt2000]

Well, the D.A. was created because Umbridge was really just teaching them rubbish and Harry, Ron, and Hermione decided to take the matters into their own hands, and teach everyone real DADA so they would be prepared if ever encountering an evil witch or wizard. I think that if Dumbledore hires a good DADA teacher, like Lupin, then there might not be anymore existence of the D.A., though I hope that there will be. I am sure Dumbledore will find someone good to be a teacher for DADA, so there really won't be a need for the D.A., though it has proved to be very beneficial to most of the members. I would like to see the D.A. continue though. And there won't be anything in the way to stop them, because the Educational Decrees that Umbridge made will probably not apply to the school anymore now that even Fudge has openly admitted that he has seen Voldemort return. Fudge will want to better prepare everyone, and Dumbledore will probably be able to resume his own methods of running the school. Unless a teacher or Dumbledore stops the D.A. from meeting, I hope Harry continues it because it was very helpful, especially for Neville. I don't think any DADA teacher would have taught them Patronuses, or at least maybe in their seventh year, and most of the members of the D.A. have got the hang of it. I think Dumbledore might even encourage them to continue the meetings. I hope the D.A. does continue.

[Veneficus]

Since this is one of Harry's stronger subjects and abilities and he's yet to have a, (as Professor McGonagall puts it) competent, DADA teacher. Book 6 has to have a better DADA Prof join Hogwarts. I wonder if you can remove the DADA books from the Room of Requirement?

[remus81]

There is already a thread about this in Predictions & Theories, but good subject!

[Godrics_Owl]

I think everyone in the wizarding world will be practicing their patronis. As for the DA, I think it will continue. The dueling club in CoS never took off, so this could fill that role as well. Slytherin will of course have their own little version of it... there won't be any slytherin in the DA, will there?

Should be a lot easier to get a very competent DADA teacher now, actually, shouldn't it? perhaps an auror too clumsy for the field.

[firebolt2000]

No, I don't think there will be any Slytherins joining in the D.A., because it seems that most of them support Voldemort and so does their family. And I do agree with most of the people in the wizarding world are practicing their Patronus, just because the Dementors now do not reside at Azkaban. But the fact that Harry was able to teach the D.A. that and most of them can conjure one is quite incredible.

[lily87]

I can't imagine that anyone from Slytherin would want to join the DA. I hope it continues as I still think it can be beneficial. I think DD will make it an official club so there will be more members. Maybe more people can become better in the subject with the extra practice. And some people, like Neville, may need that kind of environment to learn.

[Perdita]

Here is the the link to the thread started by Morgoth.

Dumbledore's Army (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11222&perpage=40&highlight=Dumbledore%20and%20Army&pagenumber=4)

That thread seems like a discussion about the DA and what happened in OOTP. This thread is more for predictions of what will happen in future books. Essentially, they appear to be different topics. I don't know what moderators will do with this thread.

[FredRocksMySocks]

I'm pretty sure that it will continue, after all, the kids seem eager to learn, and DD is back, so it's not illegal anymore. However, the presence of a new DADA teacher may swipe the need of the DA, but I am pretty sure the kids are set on their little Anti-Volve club.

[Godrics_Owl]

If it becomes an official club, the slytherins will have to be allowed to participate, which they will, just to be stinkers.

There weren't really that many kids that could do a patronus, were there? just a handful I thought, which is still incredible considering the Bones woman's astonishment that Harry could do a patronus. Like Harry said, though, it may be a lot easier to do when not facing a dementor, like the one he shot at Malfoy during quiditch. It may have been sour grapes over not being unique in that regard, though, too. He's not that special anymore, is he? Some of the older kids should have been able to, and don't forget, Harry learned how in just his third year.

[sone]

Doing a patronus spell is difficult. However once you get past that, it is even more difficult for it to actually take shape of an animal and then doing it in the presence of dementors......well that is very, very advanced magic. Also it depends on the size of your patronus as well. Lupin was able to do one but it was small, silver stuff enough for one dementor but not for a hundred. Harry's is a giant stag.

[wahsup86]

Very true, I wonder if JKR will go into more of HOW a Patronus fights a Dementor. I know we all already have images of Harrys Stag mowing down dementors, but you can't exactly picture the same thing with Hermiones Otter.

[Joshman687]

I think Harry will continue the DA because now that everyone knows that the dark lord is back, there will be an even greater demand for practical magic that can be done with an experienced instructor. I think that Harry will keep it to its original members. I also believe that somehow in the next few books, Harry will be preparing the DA for a dueal with Death Eaters. How cool would it be to see DUmbldore's Army face death eaters?

[Hawk 92]

I think that the DA was to kind of introduce us to the next generation of the OotP. And to intoduce and develop a few of the characters who will play a big part in the second war. Ginny, Neville, and Luna.

Cheers!

[aphelion]

First off, I am new here posting, but I actually have been reading these forums for well over a year. Now I've finally shaken off my laziness and started posting.

I would point out that I don't think that having a competent DADA teacher would be an obstruction to continuing DA, if i recall, when Angelina Johnson admitted Ron to be in Quidditch she said there was a better candidate but she (the candidate) said she would choose Charms Club over Quidditch practice if they conflicted. If there can be a Charms Club with Flitwick around, there should be no problem for DA.

[big_cho_fan]

I doubt it, now that voldie's return is public I think dumblee would be able to choose a good DADA teacher, maybe even rehire lupin. If he does there will be no more need for the DA unless the students wish to learn more advanced spells and so on.

[Siriusly_Addicted]

Actually, I think both DD and the new DADA teacher, assuming s/he is actually a good teacher and dedicated to seeing the students learn to defend themselves, would actively encourage the continuation of the DA.

In the first place, everyone now knows that Voldemort & the DE's are back, and you *cannot* have too much practice at DADA. In the second place, the DA is a prime example of that inter-house cooperation and friendship that DD has been so desperate for since Cedric died/Volemort returned. I can't see him disbanding it now, just because there's a qualified DADA teacher.

I can also see some Slytherins joining up, if for no other reason than to spy and see how good everyone, especially Harry, is at DADA.

[aphelion]

big_cho_fan, my point was that DA would continue not as a subsitute for DADA but as a complement to it, as you can see DA allows them more to focus on hands on experience whereas in DADA you have to study the theory every other lesson (unless its Umbridge).

And as I said before, since there is a Charms Club and I think its sponsored by Flitwick, there should be similarly not conflict between DA and DADA. In fact, the new DADA teacher could even help them with it, or better still DD can do it. After all, its Dumbledore's Army.

[Rain]

I want DA to continue, and I think that it will continue. Harry is obviously a very good teacher. He was even able to break the shell around Neville, making him good in DADA:clappy: .
Also, now that Sirus is dead I think that Harry will need an outlet to vent out his frustations, anger and grief. And what better way to teach his fellow students DADA, so that they can atleast save/help themselves and their loved ones, as Harry himself was not able to do so for Sirus :'( .
I also think that knowing rest of the DA's members they won't let the group die, especially when they hear what actually in the department of mystries; and also as some of them actually had relatives that were harmed by LV and His Deatheaters.

Just a thought: won't it be cool if DD gives them a room of their own with a potrait and password and all to avoid slytherine party p**ers?;) :cool:

[Tarawyn]

I'm going to merge this thread ("Will Harry Continue Dumbledore's Army?") with the general thread on the D.A. where this has been discussed. :)

[Dedalus Diggle]

slytherins who are serious about learning to defend themselves must not be excluded. You do not have to be Slytherin to be evil (think of Pettigrew) and you don't have to be evil to be in Slytherin (think of, erm, well, just cause Harry hasn't seen any good Slytherins, doesn't mean there aren't any - maybe Snape counts as an example, at least he appears to be on the right side, although when he was in Slytherin, it appears he was evil). Harry has a knack for bringing out the best in everyone else he works with - wish he could do it for himself - and this may be related to his special weapon that LV lacks. The school needs the DA Club just as much as Harry needs to be coaching it

[mystically_mad]

I really hope some slytherins join the DA. That would definitely strengthen the bonds of friendship between the houses, as I am sure someone has already said.

[Raven]

The thing is, could the rest of the DA trust a Slytherin. I mean, they have earned their reputation, and continue to earn it each year.

[mystically_mad]

I know but every single one cant be evil. Surely they know of a few who arent that bad and would let them in. Or maybe they would let them in but not trust them.

[Mary Jane]

I agree, Dumbledore's Army ruled. I too was surprised by Neville and so pleased, too. I think Nev is definitely going to do some butt kicking in the next two books.

I also loved the fact that they came up with the name themselves and you know when Dumbledore saw that he was flattered and proud. :clappy:

[Veneficus]

As you'd hear on Emeril, it's time to kick it up a notch.

[sue1308]

I really like the DA to continue in the next books, mainly because of what's already been said (it promotes interhouse relationships, and there is a charms club already). Something's been nagging me, though: how come DD looked so surprised when he found out about Dumbledore's Army? Shouldn't he have known by then:
- he says he keeps a close eye on Harry
- the OotP knows about DA (at least, Sirius does), so DD should know about it too.

I love the idea of DD being a "host teacher" for the DA next year, surely Harry needs to learn some extra spells to defeat Voldemort in the end...

[psychofan]

I guess excluding Slytherins from the DA because they are Slytherins is just as bad as creating the Chamber of Secrets to purge the school of non-pure bloods, if you think about it.

[mystically_mad]

Yes it is. Surely all the slytherins arent bad.

[hogwarts_princess]

Excluding the Slytherins isn't as bad. Harry and everybody else in DA just can't trust the Slytherins.

[Guardian Angel]

I think it is Discrimination of JKR's side. If you're cunning it doesn't mean you're evil... I'd like to meet some ... less bad Slytherin... Really!

[mystically_mad]

I would as well. It will be nice to see that. I want to find out more about that kid mentioned when they study the thestrals, the one that could see them.

[Pennz]

The DA rocked! In my opinion it was probobly one of the best things in OoTP. I also think it was a bit like junior Order of the pheonix!

I think it will stay for book 6&7 in some shape or description(like a larger group of friends for harry to fall back on) but I dont think it will ever be quite as cool as it was because there won't be the need to keep it secret anymore. I REALLY hope it does stay underground so only people that can be trusted are let in. I wouldn't want it to just turn in to a 'Dueling club' where you would get people like malfoy just turning up to create havok. Saying this I can see it not returning in the next book. I think in the next book Harry is really going to change. I think he'll be a lot more isolated and won't want to be around people as much. plus I think he will be busier with homework, quiditch etc.

[mystically_mad]

I hope they keep the DA in the next books, I think it was a real learning experience for Harry, made him grow up alot.

[Hpmons]

I think it was a fantastic idea of Hermione in book 5 (one of many), and Harry also felt that it was the only reason he stayed at Hogwarts. I agree that we will see it in the sixth year, but it will become more of a public Defence Association, and Slytherins will probably be invited to join (Theodore??? The GOOD Slytherin in my opinion...), but few Slytherins will join. It will probably be moved to the Great Hall or something too.
Excluding Slytherins would be wrong. It is a generalisation that Slytherins are all bad, and admittedly, all that we have SEEN are bad, but there are many Slytherins we dont know about. Even if they are a bit nasty, there are still few of them whoose parents are DEs. (As Sirius said, the world is not divided into good people and Death Eaters). The school should be more bonded, and that does mean bonding with the Slytherins. Perhaps not all of them, but some of them.
The DA was actually mostly furfilling the Sorting Hats Song, which I thought was a very nice touch to the books. In the DA there were girls and boys from three houses, and they worked together, and united against Umbridge in a way.

About how Dumbledore didnt know about the name: Dont forget that Mundungus was only there in the Hogs Head, where they decided that they would make a Defence Club. No adult was present in the Room of Requirement when they actually decided to name it "Dumbledores Army", and Harry is mostly only watched out of Hogwarts, as he is still safe inside.

[mystically_mad]

Yes the DA was one of hermiones more brilliant ideas in book 5. It gave the stydents in it something to work for and gave them a sense of pride because they were working against Umbridge. It also gave Neville the badly needed confidence to improve his magic. Not only that but it helped Harry, a) improve his relations with the students of the school and b) helped him grow up a bit and made him aware of the others in the school.

[canteurervan]

Well, it's great to have the idea of keeping the DA around, indeed. However, imagine that once Dolores Umbrige's gone, the purpose of the DA no longer justifies. Of course, now students have to learn more defensive spells to protect themselves against the Dark wizards, but that should be for everyone. Another form of the DA should be more appropriate. Say, every House can (optional) organize their own DA society. The reason for this is there were some conflicts arose from book 5. For instance, Cho vs. Harry, Michael vs. Ginny, Marieta vs. (the whole group). Or, in other words, there's a gap in the trust of the organizers (Harry, Hermione). So, the DA cannot continue further. Besides, the DA last yr was secret to other students. Now, everyone in the school already knew of such organization, they will judge that Dumbledore favors them if Dumbledore let it continue. I bet McGonagall won't agree the DA the coming yr either.
Somehow, we all get the feelings that they will learn magic harder in the coming year than ever, since now Voldy has came out of the closet.

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[mystically_mad]

I dont think that it would be better if each house had their own DA. Part of the goodness of the DA was the inter house relations it promoted. There were some disputes yes but that always happens with large groups of people, in any house it would happen.

[canteurervan]

Well, here are the scenarios:

1. If Dumbledore decides to let the form of the DA exists, and while the whole school already knew about its existence, Dumbledore has to let all Hourses create their own organization. Probably Head of House should administer the organization. Otherwise, the inter House thing won't work.

2. If the option 1 above is not possible, Dumbledore has to stop the DA at all, assuming that students have a more capable DADA teacher. Well, if Snape takes the job, I bet Harry will keep the DA within the trusted friends only; otherwise, the DA is gone.

3. Now, suppose option 1 is chosen. The only way to make it work is organization of their own Houses, for 2 reasons: (1) one student from one House can't be expected to join the othe House while there's one in his/her own House. (2) High-peak conflicts between Griffindor & Slytherin will cause more trouble than there are, especially sensitive matters as fooling around with practical spells. Therefore, the only solution is each House has their own DAs; otherwise, no DA at all.

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[mystically_mad]

Ok, who says the whole school already kows about the DA? I dont remember it being mentioned in the book that the school found out. Also who says many people would join even if they did know. There are many clubs in the school already and not everyone wants to join. How exactly would the inter house thing work if the houses had separate DA's?

I doubt that Snape would get the DADA job, DD seems to want him to stay in the Potions job. A reasonable DADA teacher should be pleased that the students are taking such an interest in the dark arts.

And the DA would be a way a building relationships between the house which could help diminish the conflicts between the houses, eg Gryffindor V Slytherin.

[Curinur]

has anyone noticed that the D.A could stand for Dark Arts also? Could this be purely concidental or what!?

[mystically_mad]

I was wondering about that too, it is pretty strange.

[Curinur]

Maybe they'll get sidetracked with the Defense, and start doing the actual dark arts. i know this is much against the wishes of you fans there, but it is a possiblity. not that they'd use it for malicious intent.

[Barbara Kennedy]

Maybe they'll get sidetracked with the Defense, and start doing the actual dark arts. i know this is much against the wishes of you fans there, but it is a possiblity. not that they'd use it for malicious intent.
Where do you get that idea from? It is against what they are teaching in the first place.

[Spirit]

Oh how cool were they, then? When I first saw the name and the group of guys joining, I immediately saw parallels with the Order itself, what with it being a secret society brought together to train against evil forces. What made it so good, was that Harry was such a good teacher that I think he would make an amazing DADA teacher in later life. But, I sidetrack. The actual group was pretty awesome especially when a group of them went to the Ministry of Magic and started fighting with the Death Eaters, which seriously impressed me especially Neville who really did come out of his shell when Harry taught him. I expect Harry's tuition will single-handedly give the members of DA pass marks in their OWLs, which is something to be proud of.

What was your opinion of the DA?

I too saw the paralles between the DA and the Order. I was impressed that they all fought Death Eaters like that. I mean, it wasn't a question about their bravery, but the way that they fought so well. I really hope that the DA continues. I think it will.

Someone mentioned this a little while ago, I don't think that the school knows about the DA. They probably just know that Harry got in trouble for something again only this time it involved some other students.

[ParselTongue]

I thought DA was a cool idea of Hermiones. I think it showed Harry would be happier being a teacher than an auror (course we'll never see that far). Doing it right under Unbrimdges nose was to cute. That stupid friend of cho's got what she deserved and CHO still took up for her!!! Anyway Hermiones curse had to be a powerful one, she still had SNEAK on her face at the end of book 5.

[jennymac]

hermione's idea for the DA for awesome. it has to be the best idea she's had in the series. i think it's possible that the DA with stick around next year, and i think it will always be interhouse. because who's going to teach defense to the other houses? part of the reason they formed the DA was that harry was the best in the class at defense and everyone wanted to learn from him. it wouldn't make sense to form another DA and have someone other than harry teach it. harry was the heart of the class. and if he teaches it, since harry is a griffyndor and he'd be the ones teaching the other houses, so it's already interhouse right there!

as for admitting slytherins...i don't know. it would be unfair not to admit them. but i'm sure this defense class taught by harry potter is something they don't want voldy to find out about. and since nobody knows any of the slytherins too well, they can't really trust any of them. i'd like to see a nice slytherin though. that'd be cool.

[SnowyOwl]

I also agree that the DA should continue as a compliment to DADA class. I think we need a good DADA teacher so that Harry can get the progression he needs, and I think the DA is great for practical application. It is also great for learning curses you might not run across in a standard textbook.

I also think the DA is important for Harry. Though interpersonally kind, Harry tends to distance himself from people. The DA helped him to be active in taking care of and supporting others. I loved how he used the DADA class time to reflect on the progress the DA members were making. These are the brothers and sisters he's never had.

[jennymac]

I loved how he used the DADA class time to reflect on the progress the DA members were making. These are the brothers and sisters he's never had.
very well said. :) :agree: and some of them have already put their knowledge learned in DA to the test, defending harry and backing him up. the DA is always going to be important to harry i think.

[Puffskein]

Something's been nagging me, though: how come DD looked so surprised when he found out about Dumbledore's Army? Shouldn't he have known by then:
- he says he keeps a close eye on Harry
- the OotP knows about DA (at least, Sirius does), so DD should know about it too.

This may be answered by someone's point that Mundungus didn't hear them choose Dumbledore's Army as a name, but it seems a good place to point out that if Dumbledore did know everything, he'd either be criminally negligent (if the rest of the story stayed as it is) or it wouldn't be Harry's story (if DD sorted everything out). After all, he didn't notice Quirrell having Voldemort attached to his head, or Lockhart being useless, or James, Sirius and Peter being Animagi even though he knew they were clever, cheeky and friends with Remus. I think these are plot devices by JKR rather than faults on DD's part.

[Gnomida]

I think that Dumbledore's army sounds exactly the society or group where I'd love to be in!

[GryffindorSeeker]

Dumbledore's Army was an excellent idea, yes! I agree with Puffskein on the point of why Dumbledore was surprised about the name "Dumbledore's Army." I wouldn't be surprised if Dung didn't tell him the name to make sure Dumbledore wouldn't get a swelled head over it. I wouldn't put that past him, if it were anyone other than Dumbledore. He would have done that with anyone else if he heard, but I don't really think he did.

[SilverStar]

D.A was the best part of book 5 for me. Period. I absolutely loved it.

[Charmed Cheese]

The best part about the D.A. is that it was students showing that adults can't bully them.

My sister ran into a problem with a teacher and principal bullying her (I swear it was a real life Umbridge) and they think they can get away with it just because their teenagers.

My sister is a great student and never complains about a teacher; even if she doesn't agree with them on everything. But, it doesn't count for anything when an adult is on a power trip.

The D.A. proved that students should never be underestimated, and that they deserve as much respect as adults. The D.A. was done quietly and professionally without directly agitating the source problem.

[canteurervan]

Want to know if it's possible for DA to exists in book 6? try the book 6 version of Lady Cassie, "Harry Potter and Dumbledore's Feint". It's quite logical indeed.

Somehow I think the formation of DA will lead to strong support for Harry later on. So, I believe the DA will prevail in later books.

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[jennymac]

i don't think that it was that DD was surprised at the name...more that he was acting in front of umbridge...or he was surprised that they actually wrote the name where it could be found. neville did teach them 2 years ago that you shouldn't leave things laying around.

[mystically_mad]

The name wasnt decided on until they had their first meeting in the Room of Requirement, and Dung was nowhere near them, so naturally DD wouldnt know.

[Virgo Shaka]

I loved that scene in OotP where Harry, in a fit of complete hatred towards Bellatrix, lashes out (tried, I know it didn't work) with the Cruciatus curse. This brings a few questions:

a) Will the DA start practicing some of the unforgivable curses in the the next book? I can totally picture Neville doing that since Bellatrix still owes him and Harry a lot of blood. I don't mention Avada Kedavra since I don't know how would one practice such a curse.

b) Will the DA start practicing some offensive spells, hexes, charms (not necessarily killing ones but some that deal more damage (that purple flame slash that Dolohov uses twice in OotP seemed very nasty (I mean he KO'ed Hermione even though he had been silenced) and that silver, laser-like spell that Dumbledore, a death eater (don't remember who) and other use) in the the next book? Of course, I don't mean that the DA will become an anti-death-eater club that fights fire with fire (ala Barty Crouch) but they seriously need some firepower. Luck only takes you so far and not as far as a good entrail-expelling curse will take you j/k.

c) JKR should at least name most of the spells that appear on the books (the purple flame thing, the silver thing, etc) since things are getting pretty confusing. Now for the last question: what does each subject in the Hogwarts' curriculum teach you? It sounds Dungeons and Dragons' like but it would be nice if the DA could learn how to conjure objects, animals, etc. Is there such a Magical School in the HP world?

[Picko]

a) Will the DA start practicing some of the unforgivable curses in the the next book? I can totally picture Neville doing that since Bellatrix still owes him and Harry a lot of blood. I don't mention Avada Kedavra since I don't know how would one practice such a curse.

I don't know how one would practice the other two either. Who would volunteer to be tortured or controlled? And I doubt Hermione would allow anyone to do anything to creatures of any sort. I would say there is no possible way that they'll practice 'unforgiveable' curses.

b) Will the DA start practicing some offensive spells, hexes, charms (not necessarily killing ones but some that deal more damage (that purple flame slash that Dolohov uses twice in OotP seemed very nasty (I mean he KO'ed Hermione even though he had been silenced) and that silver, laser-like spell that Dumbledore, a death eater (don't remember who) and other use) in the the next book?

I wouldn't think so, it's not part of the curriculum that Hogwarts teaches and therefore I do not think they'd have the proper books to teach them.

c) Is there such a Magical School in the HP world?

There's this little one known as Hogwarts that you might've heard of ;)

[Virgo Shaka]

Come on I mean Conjuration (aka Summoning in Dungeons and Dragons and other RPGs). Although humor is appreciated.