CoSForums Archive - So who will get Bellatrix?

michaela

August 13th, 2004, 7:18 pm

Voldermort certainly seemed annoyed by Bellatrix as she was selfish in his eyes because she was too busy duelling with Sirius then getting the prophecy. I don't think Voldermort would give her another chance if she fails to do another task for Voldermort. So hopefully Voldermort would kill her, and make it very painful!

ConradSims2

August 13th, 2004, 7:24 pm

She is Voldemorts strongest ally...He knows that she is powerful, so will he kill her? ...btw--- Who was the order fighting against at the end of the Book? Bellatrix and who else from the 'Dark' side?

kaz

August 13th, 2004, 7:31 pm

I really hope that never happens, Im a real big fan of bella (http://bellatrix-lestrange.net) and think she is hot and amazing, I mean number one she has more powers than Harry and has more expreince and knowlegde so i doubt that will happen

LuvHP_001

August 13th, 2004, 7:32 pm

I think Neville and Harry will work together and kill her.

ConradSims2

August 13th, 2004, 7:36 pm

But she is a 100% B**** She was laughing and talking to Harry like Peeves talks to him! She felt nothing after killing...oooh I hope Voldemort finishes her off...

I think Neville and Harry will work together and kill her.

Nope, they're not killers.

It will be one of the adults, who can handle death.

Besides, Harry is an emotional wreck (at the end of Book 5) and Neville doesn't wanna get tortured *again*

That darn Crucio curse...

MugglyBrit

August 13th, 2004, 7:37 pm

I really hope, hope, hope that it's Neville Longbottom. As horrible as I know it is to murder someone... and as much as it won't solve anything or bring his parents back... It would be such poetic justice. :eyebrows:

The best thing would be for her to be executed for her crimes... or sent back to prison for life.

angel spirit

August 13th, 2004, 7:39 pm

Hey! It's me, Harmony.

Anyways, I think that Harry will finish Bellatrix off out of revenge for her killing Ron. Due to the whole chess match forshadowing and such...

ConradSims2

August 13th, 2004, 7:43 pm

MugglyBrit --- Does Neville have it in him? He is way to irresponsible! And he can't think for himself....

Hey Harmony!
:)

LuvHP_001

August 13th, 2004, 7:43 pm

Nope, they're not killers.

It will be one of the adults, who can handle death.

Besides, Harry is an emotional wreck (at the end of Book 5) and Neville doesn't wanna get tortured *again*

That darn Crucio curse...

maybe, i still THINK it will be them.

michaela

August 13th, 2004, 7:44 pm

I think Neville would feel much better about himself and would have more confidence if he did kill Bellatrix. I don't care who kills her really as long as its painful! She deserves it, she killed Sirius. :upset:

Gwenog Jones

August 13th, 2004, 7:51 pm

Anyways, I think that Harry will finish Bellatrix off out of revenge for her killing Ron. Due to the whole chess match forshadowing and such...
Oh I hope not!!

I don't think Harry or Neville will kill Bellatrix. They just don't have it in them. They may have the power to do so, but they don't have the heart. Maybe, Lupin will kill her for killing his best friend.

xharrypotterx

August 13th, 2004, 9:05 pm

Originally Posted by Gwengog Jones:
I don't think Harry or Neville will kill Bellatrix. They just don't have it in them. They may have the power to do so, but they don't have the heart. Maybe, Lupin will kill her for killing his best friend.

I think so too. Although JKR said that the last two books will be the darkest yet, I still don't think that Neville or Harry will actually kill. It sets bad examples for littles kids...saying murder is good. Bellatrix and Voldemort will be 'defeated' but I don't think that either Harry or Neville will resort to crude murder, just as Dumbledore didn't kill Voldemort in the MoM. Its like Lord Nicholai said:

Besides, Nevilles better then that.

LuvHP_001

August 13th, 2004, 9:22 pm

I think so too. Although JKR said that the last two books will be the darkest yet, I still don't think that Neville or Harry will actually kill. It sets bad examples for littles kids...saying murder is good. Bellatrix and Voldemort will be 'defeated' but I don't think that either Harry or Neville will resort to crude murder, just as Dumbledore didn't kill Voldemort in the MoM. Its like Lord Nicholai said:

That's a good argument. I guess Neville and Harry MAYBE won't kill her, Lupin has a reason 2 so i guess it COULD be him.

Barbara Kennedy

August 13th, 2004, 9:27 pm

I think these threads cover this question already.

Character Discussion – Bellatrix Lestrange (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=13368)
So who will get Bellatrix? ( http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=11340)

AurorSlayer

August 13th, 2004, 9:29 pm

I think it's interesting that no one is bothered at the thought of these nice kids being murderers! I mean, I know what Bellatrix and V have done, that's not the point, the point is that killing someone - ANYONE - is a horrible thing to have to do. Making the choice not to kill is more important.

Aside from Harry, I also doubt that any Hogwart student will become a killer for the sake of revenge. Bellatrix will get it, though, probably by Voldemort himself since he often punishes servants who lets him down. Neville and Harry might be present, but they will not do the deed.

ConradSims2

August 13th, 2004, 9:40 pm

LuvHP_001

August 13th, 2004, 9:47 pm

Well, I just re-read the last pages of OotP and Voldemort seemed very angry with her. He will punish her but not kill her. She is his strongest Ally.

But what if Hermione goes after her? It could be a cool twist--- She loves Harry and Lupin in a Way -- And if she had the chance she would kill her...

Um, actually, now that I think about it. No.

That WOULD be a great twist, BUT so not possible. Voldemort would never kill Bella because (IMPORTANT) in GoF we learn about why Voldemort wanted to be evil and it said that he had no friends and he was glad that he had power as Voldemort and Supporters, and though he counts them as nothing more than servants he said Bella and her husband are the most loyal to him, and she IS his biggest supporter so i REALLY doubt he would kill her, especially now that most of his other death-eaters are in jail (thought i doubt they will be there for a long time).

Unforgivable

August 13th, 2004, 9:49 pm

Well I dont' think it would be Harry or Neville, though I'd love to see Neville and Harry crucio her to insanity like she did with Neville's parents that would be a very happy day for me, but I doubt it will happen, remeber it isn't only Harry and Neville that have something against her, there is Lupin, she killed his best friend, and Tonks, she killed her cousin and she is related to Bellatrix. I wouldn't want her to live, she deserves to die on many occasions, she must... DIE, or get tortued into insanity.

Rapunzel

August 13th, 2004, 9:57 pm

Picture this - - - - huge battle, like the one in the MoM at the end of OotP. Harry & Neville surrounded by DEs. Two deatheaters do the killing curse, one from each side of the room. Harry and Neville duck, and Dolohov & Bellatrix accidentally kill each other. :)

ConradSims2

August 13th, 2004, 10:28 pm

LoL JK would never do that ! :P --- She loves the fans, she'll let Bellatrix die horribly... Or we could have it completely wrong!

LuvHP_001

August 14th, 2004, 5:38 am

Polychrome

August 14th, 2004, 6:14 am

I almost expect Bellatrix to die at the hands of Voldemort or another death eater, not because the good guys are too "good" to do it, but because she seems to hold the title of Voldemort's sidekick at the moment. Must be a very hard title to hold, and It wouldn't surprise me if a few other death eaters harbored a good amount of jealousy.

Xtina Tares

August 14th, 2004, 6:15 am

I would LOVE THAT!!! But I really think it will end up being Neville who kills Bellatrix. And y'know, Trix are for kids!...to kill? I don't know, just random. :)

WickedWitch21

August 14th, 2004, 6:22 am

I don't think any dark wizard will be killed, unless accidentally. I believe they will be captured and put in to Azkhaban. However, I think Harry and Neville BOTH will have a hand in her capture.

Maybe not accidentally, but she may get killed under extreme circumstances (e.g. an Auror or a student may kill her in order to save someone's life). I can't really tell who could that be, but my choice is Harry o perhaps Mad-Eye.

LuvHP_001

August 14th, 2004, 6:44 am

And y'know, Trix are for kids!...to kill? I don't know, just random. :)

LUV THAT!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :tu:

Lord_Talon

August 14th, 2004, 7:24 am

I see Neville taking Bellatrix out.
Seriously!
Look at the reasons why:
1)She and other Death Eaters tortured his parents until they were driven totally insane. This caused him to be torn from them and raised by a well meaning but kind of cold grandmother. Other members of his family didn't seem to treat him too well, either, despite what seems to be good intentions.
2)Bellatrix killed Sirius, who was someone very important to one of his best friends:Harry. This caused his friend pain,thus adding to the anger he already feels toward Bellatrix. Avenge his parents, and avenge his friend's godfather.
3)Bellatrix being in Azkaban was a safety net for Neville, and her escape removed the safety net. He no longer feels safe, and knows that the rest of his kin are now in danger, and this he will not allow. Notice how when he recieved news of her escape, something in him changed. He became more focused, and improved at what seems to be an exponential rate( for Neville, that is).
It seems that her release removed the psychological block Neville himself had subconciously placed upon his abilities. His powers never even came into being until his relative dropped him out of the window that one night. He knew he needed to save himself, and did so.
I see Neville becoming a very powerful wizard as he gets older, maybe even on par with Harry. Potter and Longbottom: Aurors Supreme.

Laugh if you may, but the clues are there, you merely have to look. Neville is the best bet for taking Bellatrix out.

BTW, Neville isn't my favorite character, but my "father's heart" did go out to him from the first book onward.

Later!

gottaloveLupin

August 14th, 2004, 7:42 am

I don't want Harry to kill Bellatrix. I don't want him to become a murderer. he has enough with having to kill voldemort.
It will be poetic justice if Neville kills Bellatrix, but I don't want to be him. For the same reason: I don't want Neville to become a murderer.

I hope lupin will kill Bellatrix. I can see the picture. Big battle, Bellatrix comes after Harry and Neville, Lupin interferes.

Bellatrix makes fun of him, laughing madly.
do you think you can kill me? Poor Remus! If my dear cousin wasn't able to do it, you don't have a chance. My dear cousin, I my confess, was a great wizard. He was the brighetest one in Hogwarts whereas you Remus....
What can a poor werewolf like you do? And Lupin remaining calm all this time and than bang! he injures Bella.
and Bella continues to make fun and Lupin bang again!

koetje

August 14th, 2004, 7:56 am

I hope mr. and ms. longbottom will restore of all those curses and kill bellatrix I really hope that or else maybe neville not out of the bleu but in a fight. hope she'll have lots of pain first and show regret maybe I really hate her. Who in their right mind will kill someone sweet as sirius I mean i'm still hurting over his death , what must harry feel. Poor boy, hoping for a miracle for him

Lord_Talon

August 14th, 2004, 8:13 am

I don't mean that Neville would go out and hunt her down, rather that it would happen in combat .
Later

Revolution

August 14th, 2004, 11:24 am

I don't think Bellatrix will be killed, I think that in the end she will escape and "never be heard of again". But if she does, I really hope Neville doesn't do it. I don't want him to become a murderer. I agree that Lupin will be most probable to kill her, or maybe Tonks...

Machiavelli

August 14th, 2004, 5:28 pm

Geez guys - you're not making Harry and Neville sound like very nice people! I was just re-reading PoA and I think that's got some pretty important things to say about revenge, killing and mercy.

1 - Harry didn't kill Sirius. He wanted to, he meant to, a "voice in his head" told him to, but he couldn't. Harry wasn't capable of killing the man who he knew (thought he knew) to have betrayed his parents to their death. That's who Harry is.

2 - Harry stopped Lupin and Sirius from killing Pettigrew - again the person who he knew (correctly this time) had betrayed his parents to their death. Not because Pettigrew didn't deserve it but because he felt his father wouldn't have wanted them to become killers.

I think that pretty much sums up the whole concept doesn't it? If the bad guys go around killing people for what they clearly think are pretty good reasons, and the good guys do the same - what's the difference? Harry, Dumbledore, Lupin and the others are on the side of life because that's who they are.

Sorry - major sermon that turned into!

So I don't see the kids killing anyone out of revenge or hatred or rage. I think Bellatrix and her cronies will see justice, but it will be much sweeter than simply having them die - and it won't destroy the good kids when it happens.... I hope...

michaela

August 14th, 2004, 5:33 pm

Harry and Neville are nice people! But, they still need to get their revenge on people.

phoenix8

August 14th, 2004, 5:38 pm

I agree with this and I really want it to be like this -
I bet it'll be Harry and Neville, together. I'm starting to think Neville might play an important role in the prophecy. But she definetly deserves death.

I just like to add- hope she gets tortured 1000 times before she dies.

The fruit of venegeance is sweet

TylerDurden

August 14th, 2004, 5:51 pm

Honestly, if you want revenge on her, I think what she did to the Longbottoms was much worse than what she did to Sirius. I think.

Wab

August 14th, 2004, 5:54 pm

Too do to her what she did to the Longbottoms would make Harry/Neville/whoever just as bad.

michaela

August 14th, 2004, 6:04 pm

I still think it would be better if Voldermort killed her, or someone from the Order. Harry and Neville are just kids really, and I don't think they would want to become murderers just to get revenge, especially Harry.

TylerDurden

August 14th, 2004, 6:07 pm

Too do to her what she did to the Longbottoms would make Harry/Neville/whoever just as bad.

You misunderstood what I said, I'm not asking Harry/Neville to use the crustacius(sp?) curse on any one.

I just believe killing isn't as bad as torture. As Dumbledore has stated one to many times, there are thing much worse then death.

Rene

August 14th, 2004, 6:43 pm

Neville in book seven. Another two years and he's going to bloom and prove he's his father's son and make his grandmother proud.

Machiavelli

August 14th, 2004, 6:50 pm

Sorry, I still think that they don't "have" to have revenge on anyone. I repeat that if it was a horrible thing for Bellatrix to torture someone, it's a horrible thing for Neville or Harry to torture someone. Just to be clear again, I'm not getting all warm and fuzzy over the DE crew! I'm not arguing that they don't deserve punishment, I'm arguing that Harry and Neville are not the kind of people who can do the kind of monstrous actions that are being called for! I'm just hoping JKR has some really fantastic way of making the DE's and big Daddy V suffer humiliation and their deepest fears etc etc without warping her good guys.

red_fairy

August 14th, 2004, 6:52 pm

I hope it isn't Neville or Harry. Harry already has to kill Voldemort and I don't want Neville to have to kill anyone. That would be hard on a 17 year old. I still want Bellatrix to pay for killing Sirius and torturing the Longbottoms, but not by Harry or Neville.

azkaban

August 14th, 2004, 8:42 pm

revenge doesn't have to be about killing or torturing. neville can nicely take his revenge by being the one who catches bellatrix or by being the one who beats her in a duello. he doesn't have to kill her to beat her, right? besides, i think neville deserves to give her hell because she's the reason why he grew up with no parents. maybe neville would be a totally different kid if he had his mother and father aside. he wouldn't so lose faith in himself because of his grandmother's hopeless comments about him.
harry has some other people he has to take revenge from. yeah, bellatrix killed sirius but after all she's a supporter of voldemort. the tie knots once again at voldemort. he's the reason of everything. he's the reason why harry had to grow up with no parents, why he he had to live with his relatives who hated him, he's the reason harry isn't an ordinary teenager, he's the reason why harry worries about lives he has to save while people at the same age with him worry about homeworks.
so, i think voldemort is a priority on harry's life, if he'll take revenge from someone, it'll definitely be voldemort.
i hope neville will be the one who will catch bellatrix but i certainly know that harry will have something to do about it, too. maybe he'll catch bellatrix but let neville take care of her and this time he won't let her sneer at him, saying things like "i've met your parents, boy".

Machiavelli

August 14th, 2004, 8:57 pm

revenge doesn't have to be about killing or torturing. neville can nicely take his revenge by being the one who catches bellatrix or by being the one who beats her in a duello.

Great point! I definitely agree with you here. That would give Neville at least an end point to the situation and allow him to feel that he has done what he needs to do.

besides, i think neville deserves to give her hell because she's the reason why he grew up with no parents. maybe neville would be a totally different kid if he had his mother and father aside. he wouldn't so lose faith in himself because of his grandmother's hopeless comments about him.

Of course taking revenge won't change any of that for him.

From what we've seen of the good guys in the Potterverse revenge isn't a terribly good motivation. Look at Dubledore - he saves Umbridge from the centaurs. If anyone deserved to be tormented by a group of non-humans it's certainly her! But Dumbledore saves her.

I can certainly see Harry and co. acting against Voldemort and Bellatrix in order to prevent more torture and murder happening - that would be a valid motive.

michaela

August 14th, 2004, 9:06 pm

I don't think revenge by Neville on Bellatrix would at all make up for the pain and misery she has put Neville through, but I think it would certainly make him feel better.

Machiavelli

August 14th, 2004, 9:13 pm

Okay - we'll agree to disagree. In my experience revenge only makes you feel better over petty things (and then it usually leads to more problems). With things that scar, that are deeply important revenge just isn't helpful. Only my experience though!

So my vote for who gets Bellatrix? (notice how carefully I return to subject to avoid wrist-slapping) Hmmmmm.... Voldemort would be an obvious one - nails her to her stunned disbelief when she lets him down again... how about Grandmother Longbottom? With a killer howler!

michaela

August 14th, 2004, 10:41 pm

I think it will be Voldermort. Revenge like that doesn't help in the long run, but short time it makes the person feel better. I'm not a person to believe in getting revenger on people myself, I think revenge would always come to people who actually deserve it.

Machiavelli

August 14th, 2004, 11:48 pm

Yeah! Let's all hope for justice! The only question is - is Bellatrix so utterly psycho that she would accept even death from Voldemort on the theory that he can do no wrong? Maybe having a dispised mudblood defeat her would be pretty cool.

talulah

August 15th, 2004, 3:40 am

I think Harry and Neville will most likely go after her. Something tells me that Ron needs to stay away from her. Read the part in SS where the chess game is being described and you might understand what I mean.

michaela

August 15th, 2004, 6:05 pm

I reckon that she would have no choice on the matter if Voldermort wanted to kill her for not succeeded on a task set from him to her. I doubt anyway, even a psycho like her, would accept being killed, but she would have no say on the matter.

azkaban

August 15th, 2004, 6:21 pm

well, isn't bellatrix the only DE left outside? I mean, the others are all in Azkaban, right? if the whole crew was in MoM that night, Voldemort only has Bellatrix now because Dumbledore caught the others. oh, and of course there is wormtail. i shouldn't forget about snape and karkaroff, either. but i suppose bellatrix is the most important servant of Voldemort cos she killed sirius and is the only one who could escape dumbledore. she surely was punished because she failed to get the prophecy from harry. but she's the only valuable DE left out of azkaban (screw wormtail!), voldemort will never kill her.
i still think that neville will catch her somehow. harry or dumbledore might help him on this one but i believe that neville's gonna feel that he must do something about this and he'll do his best. he'll do anything to get her. this is what i think.

michaela

August 15th, 2004, 7:11 pm

Wormtail wasn't taken into Azkaban. Also its only a matter of time until they escape again.

azkaban

August 15th, 2004, 7:18 pm

yeah, that's true but maybe dumbledore will come up with something more trust-worthy that dementors for azkaban's security.

michaela

August 15th, 2004, 7:33 pm

But as they are on the same side as Voldermort it's rather likely that he would find a way to get them back.

azkaban

August 15th, 2004, 8:52 pm

yeah, he probably will find some way to get them out but i assume that the new minister and dumbledore will think something about it.

michaela

August 16th, 2004, 12:15 pm

Hopefully Dumbledore will think of a way to stop them escaping again and joining Voldermort. I'm not so sure if that is his top prority though.

atherella

August 16th, 2004, 4:58 pm

Hopefully Dumbledore will think of a way to stop them escaping again and joining Voldermort. I'm not so sure if that is his top prority though.

That's a really good point that I haven't seen discussed too extensively, although mentioned. We know the dementors are the guards of Azkaban, but now, we also know that they are under LV's control. Who in the world is going to guard Azkaban now? Obviously if they are still there, they'll let out anyone who is working for LV. I'll go see if there is a thread for this yet. :huh:

zippythesqurl2

August 16th, 2004, 5:35 pm

I think Bella's story line might follow that of worm-tongues (from LOTR)In the end, Voldemort is broken; he has no more powers and is a shadow of himself. They good guys spare Bella, while LV says something like "You know (so and so) Bella kileed/tortured (so and so)" and then Bella will stab LV (both of them being wandless and powerless)

Okay, maybe not JUST like LOTR, but something along those lines. I can see, possibly, Bella being very bitter over how she spent so much time in servitude for LV to end up being nothing but a pawn in a failed dream.

koetje

August 17th, 2004, 10:52 am

what a sick thoughts you have :D
would be her pay back that's for sure hate her mor than voldie :blush:

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Originally Posted by ConradSims2
She'd be able to take both of them out if she had her wand on her...

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Yeah..I didn't say It was likely to happen or to work..but It would be cool
Maybe if she had lost her wand or something..

I think I have worked out a way I would like to see it :

First Nevil gets her with the rope-casting spell, kicks her a few dozen times, tells her may she rot in hell, and finally spits her in the face, after with he gives Harry his turn. Then they take her to the Death Room wich is occupied with a very nasty dementor and a Boggart that turns into LV saying how she has dissapointed him and that she deserves whats comming to her. Then Boggart Voldie, Harry and Neville watch while the Dementor sucks out her evil soul while she cries and strugels. When the Dementor's finished his dinner they trow her soulessbody trough the Veil, give eithother a highfive and leave
with a big smile on their faces wich lasts for several days.

Nymph

August 17th, 2004, 10:57 am

If nobody does, I will get her !

koetje

August 17th, 2004, 11:40 am

If nobody does, I will get her !

You that give her a kick from me to :eyebrows: :rotfl:

lupislune

August 17th, 2004, 8:56 pm

I think Ron will. I know vengence is best served cold which would make it perfect for Neville, but I believe Ron will be the one who "gets her" wheter directly from his wand or indirectly.

Seven

August 17th, 2004, 9:09 pm

Either I think that she will die in the hands of one of the gang (ie. Ron, Nevile, Hermione, etc.) Or I think she should rot in jail, if they find something worse than the Dementors. She deserves to be torn apart mentally to the point the Longbottoms are, but much worse. Especially because what she has put people through. I don't think putting people to death is good. In the heat of the battle it is fine, but after something else.

noor

August 17th, 2004, 10:23 pm

I think the nasty old bag is a lot more powerful than we have seen and she is much more interlinked with Voldemort (not Voldie!) than the other death eaters. Jo focuses on Bellatrix a lot and there is a lot more back story to come about her i think. I reckon she has a "thing" for voldemort and he finishes her off. At least that is what I hope. I bet she would be a right bunny boiler.

michaela

August 20th, 2004, 8:37 am

But if they are so powerful they would of been able to get the Prophecy without breaking it.

kaz

October 2nd, 2004, 9:00 pm

I hope they get a time-turner and take turns killing her over and over and over and over....

I'm a bit angry.
Not call Bellatrix is one of my favorite characters, and I suppose she will be killed in the end of all ends, however I think she will kill some yet again close to Harry perhaps Hermione or Ron?

king_elessar

October 2nd, 2004, 9:21 pm

well harry did spare wormtail who betrayed his parents and it is his fault that they are dead. But harry is very angry these days so he may seak revenge but i dont think it will be him who will be killing bellatrix cos it will make him just as bad

good people dont seek revenge

i think it wud be gud if voldemort kills her for failing him because it would show everyone that he can be just as murderous to his closest and loyalest followers than to his enemies

McBeth

October 2nd, 2004, 11:11 pm

I'm putting my money on Neville, although I think he and Harry both want to finish her off equally.

hpfan_08

October 3rd, 2004, 2:10 am

I'm guessing that it will be Neville and that he kills her with Avada Kedavra

Or he could use the Cruciatus Curse on her and then Harry finish her of with Avada Kedavra.

IceKat55

October 3rd, 2004, 2:14 am

It's just so depressing to think that any of the HP 'kids' will end up killing. Even thinking that Harry might actually have to kill Voldemort or some of the DEs - - to take another life, even in self-defense or protecting a loved one - - to become a 'murderer', if you will - - is so sad. He might have to live with that a long, long time. :sigh:

Now, having said that, I want Neville to OBLITERATE Bella!! :evil:

Drair Black

October 3rd, 2004, 2:40 am

Truthfully, I think that Neville will kill her. It only seems right. I mean, look at what she did to his parents!! I'd surely want revenge for them...

Dagmar

October 3rd, 2004, 2:43 am

Truthfully, I think that Neville will kill her. It only seems right. I mean, look at what she did to his parents!! I'd surely want revenge for them...
It would be poetic justice for Neville to be the one. However, I think that to stay true to Nevilles character it will be some collasal accident on his part that results in her death. That would be even sweeter, since she sees him as incompetant.

Snape_Fan

October 3rd, 2004, 2:54 am

i dont know. it could be eather one of them. she killed or in neviles case tortued worse then death, the things that they both loved. i would like to see them kill her togeather so we can see some real powerful magic done!

MoodyHarry

October 3rd, 2004, 4:52 am

Easy one - Voldemort.

She may be his 'most loyal servant' but if she does anything to annoy Voldemort immensely, she's gone, as she deserves to be.

The ultimate irony - the person who you were most loyal and faithful too is the one who kills you in the end....

morgiana

October 3rd, 2004, 6:59 am

It would be justice if it could be Neville. I think it will be HP or DD.

hermionefan01

October 3rd, 2004, 7:23 am

I think it'll be either Neville- he becomes powerful from the DA and gets revenge for his parents
Or it'll be Harry- revenge for Sirius
It should be justice served, we are made to see Bellatrix as an evil, unfeeling woman who doesn't give a toss about hurting other people. Neville or Harry will serve her her just desserts

ComicBookWorm

October 3rd, 2004, 7:55 am

I think Bellatrix belongs to Neville. I just hope he doesn't die in the process.

AsKPeeVes

October 3rd, 2004, 7:57 am

Neville i totaly want him to kill her that would be awesome but i think it would be more painfull for her to die by LV orders or by LV himself...

hermionefan01

October 3rd, 2004, 8:05 am

I think it would be good if Harry got LV(for obvious reasons), Neville got Bellatrix(for his parents), Hermione got Lucious Malfoy(for all the mud-blood jibes) and ron...who is left for ron? Fudge turns evil and ron gets him? (for holding back his dad-maybe a joint effort with Percy?) I think at the end there'll be a massive show-down where justice is served by all characters. Maybe Luna Lovegood takes down Rita Skeeter(for the Daily prophet-Quibbler tension)?

Just for the record- I think everyone underestimates how important Rita Skeeter will be, JKR hasn't let her go, she is just waiting in the background of the story, 'biding her time'

atherella

October 3rd, 2004, 3:12 pm

I'm still hoping we get to see McGonagall in action going after Bella.

I'd love for Neville to take her down, but I imagine JKR wants to keep the childrens' part in killings down to a minimum.

Tane

October 3rd, 2004, 3:25 pm

Yes Neville most certainly has all the right in the world to bring Bellatrix down and I bet the stand off between Neville and Bellatrix is foreshadowing of what is to come between those two. Neville did not give in to Bellatrix, he stood his ground and that is important because psychologically it gives Neville the advantage over Bellatrix, it means no matter what you through at him, Neville will with stand it in the name of restoring some dignity back to his parents name and the Longbottoms. If Neville’s parents died while saving there son’s life then Neville will never give up on Bellatrix because he owes his own family a life debt just as much as Harry owes Lily and James one too against Voldemort and that is something neither of them will ever understand.

GodricHollow

October 3rd, 2004, 3:36 pm

Nah McG's got Umbridge written in, after all, she was the one that gave the order fro those annoyances to send the stunners into her.

BloodyBlackRose

October 3rd, 2004, 5:19 pm

I think that Harry will avenge Sirius' death. He'll end up killing Bellatrix in RAGE! GO HARRY! I'd let her live though. Living is the true suffering. ;)

sirius'swife

October 4th, 2004, 2:33 am

lupin man....he's got to get her! honestly can you imagine how lupin's feeling right now? his last true mate is gone.
but i think neville. what bellatrix did to neville is far worse than whats happened to any of the other characters. a lot of ppl agree that neville should take her down and i agree. and she needs to suffer. i dont care if its cruel.
i cant ever see her repenting. she's too nutters and whatever happens, i doubt she'll feel even a small percent of what neville has endured for mostly all his life with his parents.
that scene in st mungo's was just painful to read.

Lupin_Lady

October 4th, 2004, 11:05 am

It will be Hermione- Ron will take the fatal blow that Bella shoots at Harry and Hermione will go nuts and fire at her, because Bella killed her one true love. It will be a scene so full of anger, love and passion... oh it gives me goose bumps. We will get to see the fire in Hermione that she showed a little of in POA when she slapped Malfoy around.
God I love that girl.

Widdershins

October 4th, 2004, 12:30 pm

Neville will probably take on Bellatrix, it is only fare that he takes her on after all she did torture his parents. Neville has become stronger he did direct most of his spells at Bellatrix even though with a broken nose he could not pronounce the words correctly.

Phane00

October 4th, 2004, 2:40 pm

I believe that Bella's head belongs to Neville. He owes her more than anyone else. If it had been him instead of Harry at the fountain, he would have made that Cruciatus Curse work properly. Harry and all may owe Bellatrix death, but Neville owes her pain.

crumseekerlynch

October 4th, 2004, 10:03 pm

Not neville and not Harry. Who ever said that someone had to get her? Maybe she won't die but will go to prison or escape.

Alkamax

October 29th, 2004, 9:02 pm

To the I hate Bellatrix Fan club. Iwas always bothered by the fact that Voldemort came to the MoM exposing himself to everyone, and letting his existence known to save Bellatrix? Why? He already knew that the prophecy was destroyed. That his DE were in great peril. It just did not seem reasonable. Unless! There is something very important about Belatrix to Voldemort. Please give me your thoughts. It not like Voldemort to show compassion. Why does he NEED her?

Kathleen Malfoy

October 29th, 2004, 9:21 pm

Alkamax: I really don't know. She is female though, so could it be that Voldemort possibly wants a mate? I know that's far out....and Bellatrix is married, but who knows really. It's just some random guess of mine.

Anyway, I actually hope she doesn't die because I don't really want to see the good characters basicly go down to her level by killing her.

If anyone kills her, I'd rather it be another evil person like Voldemort.

The only person I want the good characters to kill is Voldemort.

Plus Bellatrix IS Draco's aunt....so I can't wish such an evil fate upon her.

sirius'swife

October 29th, 2004, 9:47 pm

Stayce

October 29th, 2004, 10:01 pm

My perfect end for Bellatrix is if Neville got her with something very simple that she thought was pointless to guard against. She seems to think she is VM right hand person and considers herself very strong and protected so I think something simple would be awesome. Maybe a little plant juice of some type that renders her magicless. A chemical castration of sorts.

Yrraine

October 29th, 2004, 11:29 pm

I think Voldemort gets her, after her part in his book 6 or 7 over-elaborate scheme is foiled by Neville.

I don't think Voldemort wants a mate--that's sort of an equal. And having an heir would suggest he planned to die at some point, which seems to run counter to his ambitions to date. If he's studied his evil-overlording, he doesn't want kids: the son would plot to overthrow him, the daughter would toss him over after one look at the hero. (I don't think JKR would go for either old chestnut: ergo, no kids.)

SoObvious

October 29th, 2004, 11:50 pm

McKinnon02

October 30th, 2004, 12:02 am

Why is it that nobody around here understands that NOT EVERY ACTION IN HARRY POTTER IS BASED ON LOVE! You can't use characters' feelings to determine the outcome of the series. Take Harry & Voldemort, for example- no love to lose on each other there.

Now, if you want poetic justice- which I think is what JKR will shoot for concerning Bellatrix- she'll be carried or pushed through the veil by Neville.

Somnombulist

October 30th, 2004, 12:10 am

I think neville will sacrifice himself to kill Bellatrix, Maybe a special "Deflecting" charm would be put on him, reversing the spell onto whomever cast it. or maybe he dies knowingly as a decoy for harry to finish her....

On another note, I don't think that JK can keep the kids from killing, I mean...It is war, you don't not kill in war, it would kind of pointless. Its sad but true.

Labellemort

October 30th, 2004, 12:18 am

I vote Harry. Right now, he is out for blood because of the death of Sirius. Sirius was the only real family that he had, the one chance to get a away from the Dursleys and to be LOVED. Now, that one chance is gone. Lupin too, has now lost the last best friend that he has. He too, would want to kill Bellatrix, I am sure.

Kathleen Malfoy

October 30th, 2004, 12:56 am

not that im fond of draco at all(quite the opposite the slimy little ferret!) but i would just like to point out to kathleeen malfoy that if bellatrix has to do it- she will quite happily torture and kill draco...if voldemort so desires for whatever reason. she will do it.

You're probably right. And in that case, I would hate her.

I'm sure that Lucius would then also hate her though, wouldn't he? And Narcissa?

I don't think Voldemort wants a mate--that's sort of an equal. And having an heir would suggest he planned to die at some point, which seems to run counter to his ambitions to date. If he's studied his evil-overlording, he doesn't want kids: the son would plot to overthrow him, the daughter would toss him over after one look at the hero. (I don't think JKR would go for either old chestnut: ergo, no kids.)

Hey, thanks for mentioning that point about J.K. Rowling. It made me remember what she said once when someone asked her if Voldemort has kids. She said something along the lines of it being really disturbing if Voldemort had kids. It was something like that, I don't remember exactly what she said. So it really looks like he won't have any.

I guess I just can't see him not wanting a girl, that's all. lol.....just because of what I know about most guys. o_o;

Of course, perhaps Voldemort never thinks about those things. He is kind of....different. lol.

sirius'swife

October 30th, 2004, 1:30 am

ive always had an achingly soft spot for lupin. when i first read abt him in poa i just wanted to pat his head and bake him cakes but over the two books- you begin to realize that he is so strong
that he has learned to cope. and yet- he thinks he isnt good enough. that he has make allowances- go the extra way to get ppl to like him(sort of like the fat new kid buying everyone icecreams- now that makes me cry all the time)
with that knowledge- you begin to see how important the marauders were for him. how grateful he would've been for his mates who accepted and liked him and involve him and make him feel wanted.
but that was taken away from him and just when he had gotten sirius back, he lost him. i really want lupin to get bellatrix but there's neville whom ive adored since he stood upto the trio and vowed to fight them in PS. what bellatrix has done to neville is more horrible than anything else she could've done
(blimey! i just realized how much i hate that woman)
but i think she should die at the hands of voldemort for having failed him. that would be so grimly satisfying for me because her greatest mission in life is to serve voldemort- to wi his approval and if he was displeased with her and annoyed with her then her entire world will collapse around her ears and while i would feel sorry for any other character- i would think it was poetic justice with bellatrix

Alhanalasa

October 30th, 2004, 1:43 am

It would be most satisfying for me if Neville gets Bellatrix. After seeing the state his parents are in, and his interaction with them (that gum wrapper thing makes me cry every time!), I really want him to be the one to get back at her for doing that. Lupin can help a bit, to make up for Sirius. But Neville has to be the one to strike the final blow. Preferably without sacrificing himself in the process. It doesn't seem quite like vengance if he dies, too. He's really starting to kick butt, and I think he'll be up to it by the final confrontation.

Sophie Patil

October 30th, 2004, 1:49 am

I agree with alhanalasa. I think it would be the best if neville got her.
but seeing as they are the good guys they don't kill unless in absolute need of defending their own life (and of course, killing voldemort himself is different from killing a death eater)... but I really do believe that neville will get his revenge. of course that won't heal his parents (poor kid!) but in some kind of sense it will be him who'll get her, possibly even kill her.. who knows, but if he does, then only to defend someone's life. or his own. but he wouldn't kill, just to revenge his parents.
and I think harry's pretty busy with voldi, he can leave her to neville. he really deserves it...

waiting46

October 30th, 2004, 1:55 am

NEVILLE will off belatrix! It's all part of his 'coming of age/out of his shell' process. People have been saying it'll be Harry. Yes, he's the main character and she killed his father/brother figure/friend (sirius) but it's just that--hes the main character. He can't do everything. I have a suspicion she'll die in the final battle of book 7, in which harry will also kill Voldemort. Anyways, im sure it'll be neville! He has more of a right to revenge than harry--dont get mad here, i know we all love sirius-- but it was his parents. Not only that, they were TORTURED in the most painful way. and on top of everything, they're not dead but the embarassment, shame, and continuing pain of their pointless existents in Neville's life causes him additional pain and anger. His parents don't even know who he is when he visits. If neville kills belatrix, it will be the ultimate climax for neville as well as the ultimate revenge and a time where he can finally prove himself.

Selene Sedai

October 30th, 2004, 2:06 am

I'm hoping Neville will get her.

lupislune

October 30th, 2004, 7:32 pm

I have been thinking about this a great deal lately, and I know no one will like me saying this, but sine she survives at the end of the chess game. (Ron is Dumbledore theory) I think she will survive the series.

PGrl

October 30th, 2004, 9:25 pm

i think she'll be alright, shes a great witch...maybe she'll just run away or dumbledore will take care of her in the end when, i hope, voldemort is gone forever or whatever happens at the end of the series

sirius'swife

October 31st, 2004, 12:23 am

natemac

October 31st, 2004, 1:32 am

just curious Pgrl, why will she run to dumbledore? she didnt switch sides like other prominent DE's even when voldemort fell all those years ago. she went into azkaban vowing her that her 'Lord' would come back and that she would take her rightful place, below him, doing as he wishes when that happens
she won't go begging to dumbledore and hopefully dumbledore won't fall for her trickery When Pgrl said that "Dumbledore will take care of her," she meant that Dumbledore will finish her off or deal with her. He can do the dirty work while everyone else is celebrating.

Personally, I think that when all is done, she will try to sneak away, but someone will notice that, and kill her or take her to Azkaban.

sirius'swife

October 31st, 2004, 3:28 am

oh ok. i immediately assumed otherwise because dumbledore does seem to have for...questionable people anyway(most times it has worked out for him)
i dont know that azkaban is enough for her. i think there are too many ppl queing upto hurt her and so eventually something has to give
or i could just be hoping desperately

PGrl

October 31st, 2004, 3:41 am

sirius'swife

October 31st, 2004, 6:57 am

^ yeah i got that, after natemac nicely explained it to me.
and yes dumbledore will have to make all the 'what to do with you' decisions for the order and if they do capture her then yes it will rest on his head. im not sure dumbledore can bring himself to kill someone but thats ok because bellatrix will hate-simply loathe- the fact that she owes her life to dumbledore
(gee imagine old tommy boy wont be too happy with that either huh?)

Remus Werewolf

October 31st, 2004, 8:31 am

'Twill be Neville. He's lost far more in the hands of Bellatrix and Harry. His family. Harry just lost his godfather (though, that's quite lot too). And Harry's parents weren't killed by Bellatrix. Harry will kill Voldemort, not Bellatrix.

crumseekerlynch

November 2nd, 2004, 2:59 am

Who cares as long as she's dead? Or maybe nobody will get her and she will live a happy life in Cuba or something.

Lysias

November 2nd, 2004, 4:18 pm

I don't really care who does it, but I hope it will be Harry of Neville

Giebfried

November 2nd, 2004, 9:48 pm

Either Neville or Harry deserve it but I'm not sure that Voldy on another dark wizard won't do her in first.

TrueMagic

November 2nd, 2004, 10:04 pm

It will be--me!!!

Mwahahahaha!

No, seriously. I hate her even more than Voldemort! I'm not sure about Pettigrew, though... Yes, more than him, I guess!

Die, Bellatrix! DIE!

C8H10N4O2

November 2nd, 2004, 10:14 pm

I just hope we get to find out how badly Voldemort tortured her once he took her back to...where ever. Whoever kills her, it will not hurt as much as what Voldemort does to her. Since he has been so badly thwarted by Harry and Dumbledore - preventing him from getting the prophecy and making him take too long with Harry that he was found out - he probably wanted to vent pretty badly. And, as Dumbledore said to Voldemort, there are things worse than death.

Alfonzo

November 2nd, 2004, 10:23 pm

I think Neville will probably get Bellatrix, although If any other characters get her I would be guessing that Neville might feel cheated, maybe the whole 'closure about my parents' scenario might pop up - who knows?

Annely

November 3rd, 2004, 6:10 am

Posted by SoObvious
It will be Hermione- Ron will take the fatal blow that Bella shoots at Harry and Hermione will go nuts and fire at her, because Bella killed her one true love. It will be a scene so full of anger, love and passion... oh it gives me goose bumps. We will get to see the fire in Hermione that she showed a little of in POA when she slapped Malfoy around.
God I love that girl.

god............you never wrote anything....a book or something??....God I'd pay for your stories

stormcat_5000

November 3rd, 2004, 6:23 am

I think it would be Neville and Harry Both.. dont ask how..but thats the way I want it to be, they both should do her in.

dementorsekiss

November 3rd, 2004, 6:49 am

**bearing my fangs** i hope neville and harry both kill her or better make her get tortured to insanity......

Giebfried

November 3rd, 2004, 1:47 pm

No they won't torture her... thet aren't as not cruel as her nor will they ever be, they may kill her in self defense.

atherella

November 3rd, 2004, 1:56 pm

McKinnon02

November 4th, 2004, 7:20 pm

I still stand by my original thoughts on this... I don't think it will be a kid (ie - Harry or Neville) who gets Bellatrix. I'm really hoping it will be McGonagall. We've never seen her in action, although it has been implied throughout the series how powerful she is. I want to see it for myself!! :D

We DID see her in action... both against Crouch Jr. and against Umbridge. I am curious about what role McG will have in the next book, and also about what it is she does for the Order. However, I don't think she will be the one to face Bellatrix- there's been too much backstory built up between Neville and Bellatrix for that to happen.

louise1990

November 4th, 2004, 9:12 pm

I agree VIRTUOSDREAM It has to be Neville because otherwise Harry will have completley hogged the book because he HAS to kill Voldermort and he will need his friends and allies to fight the others!!

Lexiw

November 4th, 2004, 9:21 pm

I hope Neville gets Bellatrix. She really deserves it after what she did to Neville's parents. Harry should also help, though, so he can avenge Sirius. :upset:

CoLime

November 4th, 2004, 10:30 pm

I think that Neville will kill Bellatrix, after all, she did drive his parents insane. Neville is becoming a more skillful wizard, thanks to the DA meetings. I think he will become an even better wizard and challenge Bellatrix to a wizard's duel in the 7th book and win, therefor avenging his parents. :agree:

tonkscrazy

November 4th, 2004, 10:34 pm

probably Lupin or HARRY ... :shrug: ,though i dont really matter, i just want that woman DEAD, dont really care who is going to kill her......
poor sirius :upset:

esmerelda

November 5th, 2004, 8:52 am

I don't want Neville to be a cold-blooded killer, though. I know Bellatrix deserves to be killed (and especially by him), but as of the end of book 5, I still don't think Neville was mentally ready for it. Perhaps one of the adults will step in and kill her just to stop Neville from doing it. Maybe Lupin or Moody.

Actually, I think Neville could do it if she was in the middle of torturing someone else, or was about to kill someone. But I wouldn't want him to go and track her down on a crazy mission for vengeance.

Neddser

November 5th, 2004, 9:05 am

I also think Neville will be the one to kill her, he has grown in character since the 1st book so I guess this was done for a reason, perhaps he saves Harry by killing Bellatrix. There has definitely been to much character progression in Neville for him jst to be a bit part player in the last two books

Yrraine

November 5th, 2004, 6:23 pm

In terms of maximum humiliation, Dobby should take her out.

Giebfried

November 5th, 2004, 6:30 pm

I'm liking the Dobby theory... That would be great. Come on if the good side is going to have magical allies in its side, odds are they are going to be the house-elves... and Dobby has been around too long not to play an important role in the end, I mean JKR can't seem to get rid of him. That lead me to believe that he'll do something in the end and killing Voldies right hand Death Eater might just be it.

sealjoy

November 5th, 2004, 6:36 pm

I personally hope she get the Demeantor's kiss.

Remus Werewolf

November 5th, 2004, 6:51 pm

I don't. That's too much. (Besides, you can still be killed after that? Chop, head off for instance. :))

Neville should kill her, but not going after her, I doubt it.

But, what I wanted to say is that Bellatrix doesn't seem like the right hand Death Eater. Voldemort's right hand Death Eater is dead! Bartemius Crouch Jr.! He's been killed! Or at least kissed by a Dementor, but I call that a kill. 'Nyway, Voldemort's gotta get a new right hand man, and I think it would be Lucius Malfoy, Peter Pettigrew, Bellatrix or Rodolphus Lestrange. I'd say Lucius... he's the most intelligent, powerful of those and stuff. And he even lead the patrol for the prophecy! So... no need to guess whos the right hand person? Lucius, o' course.

sealjoy

November 5th, 2004, 7:04 pm

As for the right hand I am not sure.. I was thinking Rookwood. But I would love to see neville get Bella, but the only problem i have with that is I don't want to see our good characters debase themselves using the same *unforgivables* as the baddies. somehow i think it would detreact from thier characters.

Giebfried

November 5th, 2004, 7:09 pm

You forget that Malfoy is in prison and he has absolutely NO respect for the traitor Pettigrew... That leaves Belliatrix... but then wouldn't it make sense for Harry's right hand Woman to get Vody's??? In war nothing works out fairly and at this point I don't think there is time for picking and chosing who you are going to kill in the middle of a heated battle!

Remus Werewolf

November 5th, 2004, 7:12 pm

Yeah, but Bella will be the one only momentarily. Lucius's bound to get out of there very soon, so he'll be right hand man soon again. :)

esmerelda

November 5th, 2004, 7:18 pm

Lucius Malfoy and Bellatrix Lestrange seem to be among the few Death Eaters Voldemort addresses by their first names, suggesting it would be between them. He calls Lucius his "friend", so perhaps he is his favourite. But Bellatrix is crazy of course - that might give her the advantage. Who knows?!

sealjoy

November 5th, 2004, 7:21 pm

But Bellatrix is crazy of course - that might give her the advantage. Who knows?!

I tend to think of the old saying on this one: birds of a feather flock together. Crazy and Crazy is logical

Dr_Nick

November 5th, 2004, 9:13 pm

I kinda hope that Remus will push her through the veil ,i think that would be a good way of getting her back for Sirius either that or she is tortured by the order like she did with countless others!

Rapunzel

November 5th, 2004, 9:28 pm

I can picture a building on fire, or falling down due to too many spells hitting it during a huge battle, or something like that, and dear sweet Bella being thisclose to being captured by the Order, and choosing to run into the burning and/or falling down building, and being killed. I don't like the idea of Neville killing her. I like the idea of him being powerful enough, and confident enough, to be able to killer her. I just don't like him doing it. :shrug:

voldemolt14

November 5th, 2004, 9:36 pm

I think dumbldore should do it either that or she should be tortured by Harry ( think of the implications resulting....)

danfan4ever

November 5th, 2004, 9:37 pm

thats an interesting question but i see Neville getting her bc its like major pay bak and no one would expect him to get her bc he isnt the best at magic but i believe he will and i hope he does!

StephyJ_83

November 5th, 2004, 9:40 pm

Actually, I think Neville could do it if she was in the middle of torturing someone else, or was about to kill someone. But I wouldn't want him to go and track her down on a crazy mission for vengeance.
I completely agree. I think that Neville could definitely do it in time, but it is not like Neville to hunt someone down. I could definitely see it being a joint effort between Neville and Harry . . . I almost hope it is. Harry tried to hunt her down at the end of OotP. Maybe he'll go after her again, but Neville will come to his aide and save him from her. I could definitely see that. Harry's anger has made him a little bit rash, and he and Neville have a connection.

Rapunzel

November 5th, 2004, 9:42 pm

thats an interesting question but i see Neville getting her bc its like major pay bak and no one would expect him to get her bc he isnt the best at magic but i believe he will and i hope he does!
I don't like the idea of Neville killing anyone. Bellatrix makes such a big deal about how wonderful she is, and how she was willing to go to Azkaban for her master. I think it would be fitting if she were to give up and choose death over capture.

faithforever

November 7th, 2004, 10:21 pm

Ok...most people think: Harry, Neville, Moody, Lupin or Tonks...
i disagree.
To me Bellatrix seems to be the smartest of all the Death Eaters... ( i imagine her to be incredibly pretty also :p )...so i think she'll either...die by her own blunder...OR
She'll be matched up against the smartest of the kids...so Hermione. I always imagined her to be the evil version of Hermione...worried about Voldy, like hermione worries about Harry. And so trusting in Voldy's ideas and opinions, just like Hermione is of Dumbledore.

ViktorKrum

January 8th, 2005, 3:33 pm

I think it'll be either Harry or Neville.

Harry because she killed Sirius and Neville because she tortured his parents.( i'm rooting for Neville because he deserves it.)

other scenarios are:
Harry Kills her for killing Sirius then killing Neville.
Neville tries to torture her into insanity.This may not work as she
probably already is crazy! :evil: :huh:

erynae

January 8th, 2005, 3:37 pm

I'm vouching for Neville. Or maybe she'll just do the job herself. Or Lupin

Nephel

January 8th, 2005, 3:41 pm

I don't think anyone of the trio will be capable of killing. I think Neville will be the one who confronts Bellatrix; not killing her though.

oryon

January 8th, 2005, 3:41 pm

nice...torturing into insanity...;)
I really thing that Harry will trie to avenge Sirius`s death and the second time they will meat he will probably trie to finish her off.

Another scenario that you haven`t mentionated is that Voldemort kills her for letting Harry and the gang destroy the prophecy, because if you could remember he (LV) says to Bella that she will be punished for letting them get away.

Nice ideas! :evil:

Kimmetje

January 8th, 2005, 3:44 pm

See this thread:

So who will get Bellatrix? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=11340&highlight=killing+Bellatrix)

Also this belongs in the Divination Studies discussing future books instead of in the History of Magic department which discusses what has already been done.

:welcome: to CoS forum, VictorKrum!

Please do a search (http://www.cosforums.com/search.php?) before starting a new thread and see the rules (http://www.cosforums.com/faq.php?). :)

fairy_lightz

January 8th, 2005, 4:13 pm

i think that neville will kill her or at least try to

DougJohnston

January 8th, 2005, 4:20 pm

Dedalus

January 8th, 2005, 4:46 pm

DocHollidaywe

January 8th, 2005, 4:52 pm

I do not see either one as killing her. However I think it would be great for Neville to bring her down. Though this will be really hard, as she seems to be an amazing dark art dueler. Perhaps both of them together take her out.

oryon

January 8th, 2005, 4:53 pm

I really don't think anybody should take for granted that somebody should kill her! I find that a bit sinister, to tell the truth. Death shouldn't be treated so lightly, I don't think anybody should kill her just because she's responsible for horrible things herself. Murder isn't justice! Would it be a good thing for any decent character to become a murderer as nasty as she is? Would it suddenly be right if they did it?

I think you are right but you must consider that if another huge battle will go one once more between those who were fighting in OotP, and if Harry or somebody else would catch Bella wouldn`t he/she be tempted to finish her off? It would be very difficult for Harry or Neville just to knock her out for a little time and then let her be taken by MoM`s aurors?

Dedalus

January 8th, 2005, 4:57 pm

It'd be difficult, but it'd be decent, and they are decent people. Harry has saved the life of a person responsible for horrible things, horrible things that have severely ruined his life ... I think that sort of action is what seperates him from Voldemort and his Death Eaters, as with any good person. Voldemort considers this a weakness, but it is the proper thing to do. Crouch Sr. was put in a bad light in the books for killing and torturing people as a form of justice, and I don't imagine that this will change. Of course, that's not to say that Harry or anybody else won't be tempted ... but I think we should hope that he does the right thing, not hope that he does the wrong thing!

MadMagic

January 8th, 2005, 5:18 pm

I don't think Dumbledore or the members of the Order are out for blood in the way in which the DE's are. I think they value justice over just killing. Bellatrix may well deserve death for the things that she has done, but I don't think it is up to Harry or anyone else to give it to her. I'm not sure how many DE's we will see die.

tonks442

January 8th, 2005, 7:09 pm

I really hope that either Harry or Neville gets to kill Bellatrix. After all, they probably have the most reason to.

pottergal880

January 8th, 2005, 7:18 pm

hmm..........probably neville, like lots of other people said...

Majik

January 8th, 2005, 9:35 pm

I can see Harry taking her down, and then Neville taking over. I think that Neville would perform the Cruciatus Curse.. and over-do it.. because of his parents.. he'd just go off the deep end, and injure Bellatrix beyond the point of his parents...past insanity and no memory, but without killing her. I can see him having to be stopped from the torturing.. probably by Harry..cause he just wont be able to have no compassion at all.

sergorat

January 8th, 2005, 10:29 pm

No one exept Neville can kill her! He is the best! Seriusly, I think that Neville is going to kill her. I believe that he'll get more powerful and an Auror, as well. He is going to take revenge and makes his gran proud.

weasley

January 8th, 2005, 11:03 pm

I'm going to of course! Joke. I think that Neville should as he's suffered most from her. His parents are insane and hardley remember him so I really think that Neville should.

antiQueen

January 8th, 2005, 11:39 pm

An interesting scenario would be if Voldemort himself, angered by a mistake Bellatrix has made, shows just how merciless he is by killing her, one of his most loyal servants. And in her last moments she realises that the master she so loyally served had done away with her so easily. Bellatrix's pleading and Voldemort's cold reply at the end of OotP [p. 717 UK version] gave rise to this idea and it might not be all that unlikely.

On the other hand it would be foolish of Voldemort to kill one of his loyal servants in the time of the second war. It would make a dramatic piece of writing though.

I also like faithforever's idea that Bellatrix might find herself battling Hermione, a clever witch with undisputable talent with a wand. That would be a very interesting scenario as well.

But, as so many others have said, perhaps the most fitting end would be if Neville would bring Bellatrix to her death. He has suffered greatly because of her cruelty and he might very well avenge his parents' insanity by killing her.

EmperorStaleek

January 9th, 2005, 1:09 am

I would like to see Dumbledore kill her.

Dea

January 9th, 2005, 2:18 am

I would like to see Neville killing her, taking revenge of his parents condition.

brokenglasses

January 9th, 2005, 6:10 am

:evil: Neville Longbottom will have his REVENGE!!!HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :evil:

Morweniris

January 9th, 2005, 6:10 am

Wow I have never see a thread with more love for a character than this one! :) I hope Bella is getting scared by now, if someone form the books doesn't get her we have a whole list of HP fans ready to give her the axe. I think I would even feel sorry for her if a Sirius fan catches upwith her *shudders* (just kidding ;) ).

I honestly don't know who would get her in the end, I'm mean look at the line. And personally as long as she is taken out, I don't care how its done. I would love to see Neville avenge his parents, but I think they will be comming back soon so maybe they could get her themselves.

But do we really want to see our beloved characters as killers? You have to deal with the fact that you killed someone for the rest of your life, whether it was for good reasons or not. And if you think that Harry will have to kill, well vanquish doesn't mean kill but thats another thread.

I'm not an advocate for the death penalty either but life in prison would be nice. Or it would be just lovely if a Dementor walked by and gave her a big wet one. But who knows, she might not have a soul to begin with!

brokenglasses

January 9th, 2005, 6:20 am

But do we really want to see our beloved characters as killers?

That's a good point. I don't want to see any of them to become killers. But I hope Neville at least gets a chance to help bring her down.

sanika24

January 9th, 2005, 6:43 am

I think it'll be either Neville or Harry. Personally I'm rooting for Neville. Because Bellatrix tortured Neville's parents into insanity and obviously Neville would want to get back at her.

Alicia13

January 9th, 2005, 9:39 am

I don't know, but I think Neville will get her first, as Harry will be occupied with Voldy. And Neville had a reason to get Bella before Harry did.

Enclave

January 9th, 2005, 10:46 am

There seems to be a number of people in this thread who are seriously underestimating how powerful some of these kids will be in the 6th and 7th book. Such as some people saying that they don't think any of the students would be powerful enough to cast a killing curse. Thing is Harry alone is most likely already powerful enough to kill if he chose to. Now while the other kids as of book 5 are not quite as powerful as Harry they are powerful in their own right and by book 7 characters like Neville and Ron who people always underestimate will be very powerful, powerful enough to rival some of Voldemorts inner circle even.

Also I notice many people seem to keep saying how they don't think that any of the "good guys" will murder any of the DEs. Thing is though that murdering and killing are 2 very different things. You can kill somebody without murdering them, you have heard of self defense right? Also when in war have you ever heard of a sniper being called a murderer? No he is doing his job, war is a messy business and people get killed. Now when Harry said that he will either be murdered or the murderer he is wrong. While it was possible for Voldemort to murder him I don't believe it would really be that anymore now that they are entering into a civil war of sorts.

DumblysArmy

January 12th, 2005, 4:33 pm