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hardnut
June 23rd, 2003, 6:19 pm
First she was part of the group of death eaters who tortured the Longbottoms, seeing that Neville is coming out of his 'shell' it probably means that he wants revenge

Than of course Harry for as we all know she killed Sirius

Plus the rest of the order including Lupin will probably want to see some revenge for killing one of his best friends

So what do you reckon who will get to her first?

crafty girl
June 23rd, 2003, 6:33 pm
I hope they get a time-turner and take turns killing her over and over and over and over....

I'm a bit angry.

Rien
June 23rd, 2003, 6:37 pm
I'm ready to pull a Riddle Diary and kill the old bag myself...

Phoenix_Fawkes
June 23rd, 2003, 6:40 pm
Originally posted by crafty girl (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=389173#post389173))
I hope they get a time-turner and take turns killing her over and over and over and over....

I'm a bit angry.

Yes i am too. I hate bella******** sorry im peed off! But i hope the kill her cause she will just b freed by voldy!!!! death th the death eaters!

1MelissaPotter
June 23rd, 2003, 6:49 pm
I hope that Harry, Neville, Lupin, Dumbledore, and everyone else who knew somebody she killed, all with different spells at the same time. Killing her!!!! She deserves it! :devil:

Virtuousdream
June 23rd, 2003, 6:50 pm
*gnashes teeth* I don't care who kills her as long as she suffers a very painfull agonizing death :evil:

Sirius Black
June 23rd, 2003, 6:53 pm
I bet it'll be Harry and Neville, together. I'm starting to think Neville might play an important role in the prophecy. But she definetly deserves death. Wonder why Voldemort saved her though. I thought he din't care aobut his deatheaters.

Rien
June 23rd, 2003, 6:54 pm
I've begun to think at this rate... the world will crumble, Harry and Voldemort will kill each other, but she and Pettigrew will probably ride happily off into the sunset. /cracks knuckles

Fleur
June 23rd, 2003, 6:58 pm
Wow, I never thought of Neville as the one to get Bellatrix. That sounds almost better than Harry killing Bellatix to revenge Sirius. I wonder if Neville will be the person to kill or have her be killed, or if he will want her in prison. Somehow, I don't think Neville is capable to carry out or let a murder happen, but who knows.

Tsar
June 23rd, 2003, 7:02 pm
Well the are several possibilities as to who goes after Belliatrix

Harry wants revenge for Sirius. Tonks also probably wants to take out Belliatrix, Narcissa, and Kreacher over Sirius.

Lupin could also want revenge over sirius. I also he goes after Peter.

Neville revenge for his parents

jordmundt6
June 23rd, 2003, 7:13 pm
And they kill each other. Lupin uses AK while Peter grips his throat with that silver hand. I have a feeling that Neville will end up being the one who gets Bellatrix because Harry will, at some point have to choose between going after her and facing Voldemort. Given that choice, he'll face Voldemort. And as far as why Voldie saved Bella--It was a strategic move. He'd lost what six or seven of his very best in this attack (most of the ones who'd broken out of Azkaban) and he needed someone competent on the outside to help him with the breakout. He can't and won't do everything himself. Also notice that he, like his former servant Igor Karkaroff enjoys empty threats. "Tom, the Aurors will be here in a few minutes."

"By which time I'll be gone and you'll be dead!" he said but was still quaking in his boots.

rlb
June 28th, 2003, 4:28 am
I hope that Neville has some opportunity to avenge his parents. I don't think she should get death. Sir Nicholas talked about those that die go on and I don't want her to have that opportunity. I think the dementors kiss would be better.

HPviolinist85
June 28th, 2003, 6:11 am
Neville had to see the damage every time he went to St. Mungo's to visit his parents. This type of anger built up in him for a while. Maybe both he and Harry will kill her, I think Neville will enjoy seeing her tortured longer. We know that Harry tried to put the crucious curse on her, but wasn't able to do it. I'm guessing Neville might want to do the same thing to her that she did to his parents and Harry will want to kill her because she killed Sirius.

Harry can practice AK on her so when he faces Voldemort, he can be ready.

familiar
June 28th, 2003, 6:16 am
Who's going to kill Bellatrix? I am!!! Oh wait, I'm not in the book. Darn. Well, I hope it is Neville then.

HPGramp
June 28th, 2003, 7:23 am
As much as Harry, Neville and the like deserve to kill the :censored: , I would rather they do as little killing as possible. Better to break her spirit as well as her body and have her beloved Voldemort do it.

DocHollidaywe
June 28th, 2003, 7:28 am
Neville, if anyone deserves it, its Neville.
Yes she did kill Sirius, and that was hard for Harry, but Neville had to grow up with parents with mush for brains. He is like Voldermort to Harry

You-Know-Who
June 28th, 2003, 7:30 am
I kind of like Bellatrix :smile:

hightideorlowtide
July 20th, 2003, 4:07 am
This is my Question, who do you think will defeat Bellatrix?



I think it will be one of the following people: Harry Neville, Lupin or Dumbledore

Haplo
July 20th, 2003, 4:10 am
Im a firm believer that good ole Nevilles got her number.

Magi
July 20th, 2003, 6:00 am
Neville!

Sweet, sweet revenge. *evil laugh*

But poor Neville needs some catching up, Bellatrix defeated three people in the Death Chamber battle, so it will be a tough fight.

FreyaCrescent
July 20th, 2003, 9:43 am
I reckon Harry'd have a good go at finishing her off, but I'd put my money on Neville. Place your bets now.

Cat
July 20th, 2003, 9:47 am
I'd like Kreacher to end up killing her. I don't know why.

LESTRANGEMUSTDIE
July 20th, 2003, 1:52 pm
I won't rest until either harry or neville kills that woman. i'd do it myself, but.... yeah. anyway... kreacher... that would be interesting. cool, too.

Andromeda_Black
July 20th, 2003, 2:27 pm
Death is too good for Bellatrix! I hope a dementor gets her! (But that Neville does some serious damage first!)

harp230
July 20th, 2003, 2:31 pm
I would like the opprotunity, but.... So I guess i will let Neville get her!

Angora
July 20th, 2003, 2:39 pm
For some reason that even I don't understand, my gut says Moody. But from a literary standpoint it would make more sense for it to be Neville (the grudge) or Tonks (they're related somehow, aren't they?)

McKinnon02
July 20th, 2003, 3:35 pm
For a brief moment in time, Bellatrix vs. Tom Riddle. Keep in mind she had some punishment coming to her for losing the prophecy, and failing him. However, I think this'll make her even more evil come book 6- she now probably has an extremely good reason not to fail again.

KrazzyKid
July 20th, 2003, 3:44 pm
I hope it will be Neville!!!!!! It would show just how much he's improved in this series.

I also read in another thread that someone hope Neville's parents get better (from the mimbulus mimbletonia) and they defeat her. I must say, I agree with them.... Too bad I don't remember the thread it's in, or who said it :(

Arissya_00
July 20th, 2003, 5:04 pm
Hey don't forget Sirius she killed him!!!! I was actually thinking more ofLupin or Tonks, but Neville can start off with a "taster":P

Virtuousdream
July 20th, 2003, 5:53 pm
Neville deserves the honour. Fair enough she killed Sirius, but she tortured Frank and Alice to insanity and poor Neville has to suffer for it. Harry has enough on his plate with getting sweet revenge on Voldemort for his parents' murder.

Phoenix_Fawkes
July 20th, 2003, 8:05 pm
Yea... I cant wait till that day come whahhahha... I hate her so much.. I hope Neville or Harry get her.. Oh Lupin!!!! "This is for killing my best friend u ugly git"-Lupin lol! I want that to happen!!!!!!

Mulciber
July 20th, 2003, 8:53 pm
I must agree with most everyone else... it must be Neville! And if not Neville alone, I'd love to see Neville and Snape working in tandem. I can hear you know... "What? Where on earth did that idea come from?". Well, I think we're bound to see Snape in direct combat with Death Eaters sooner or later (Granted, it may well be Lucius instead of Bellatrix). I also think part of the reason Snape is so hard on Neville is because he has some vague feelings of guilt or shame; perhaps he was directly involved with what happened to the Longbottoms. People often react to fear or embarrassment in situations with aggression, just like Snape treats Neville so harshly. Will it happen? Maybe not, but I'd love to see Neville get over his fear of Snape for a few minutes in order to work together to off Bellatrix.

Lestrange
July 20th, 2003, 10:29 pm
Neville killing Bella seems so... unrealistic. I mean, the woman took down Kingsley, Sirius, Tonks, spent 12 years in Azkaban for torturing two people to their insanity, and has showed no remorse for it. ...She's not to be underestimated in the least, I mean, she'd torture you if you did. I can imagine Neville jumping on her and forgetting wands completely, but that seems kinda stupid for Neville to do, especially if she has her wand on her and there are other Death Eaters around.

I think it'll be Remus most likely, we haven't seen him duel yet, and although he doesn't seem the avenging type, I think this is when we see his cut loose and take Bella out.

Earendil
July 20th, 2003, 10:35 pm
Neville needs to be the one to defeat her, for symbolic purposes and for developmental purposes. I believe that we're going to see some major butt-kicking from Mr. Longbottom in the future. As seen from the DA practices, there's alot more to his magical ability than meets the eye, which is hampered by his lack of confidence and frequent down-putting by his critics (Gran and Snape, for instance). For the purpose of his character growth, he will need to do something major to exhibit his potential and his strength, and I would hope that he can avenge his parents' sanity by killing Bellatrix.

Not that I necessarily think it will happen this way. Harry is another good candidate, also for vengeful purposes. However, I don't think that we're going to be seeing any tit-for-tat killing of Bellatrix. Two wrongs don't make a right, especially in fiction. Bellatrix will certainly get her comeuppance, but I can't see either Neville, Harry, or any of the other good guys actually killing someone other than in battle.

MY_SIRIUS
July 21st, 2003, 8:01 am
I'D LIKE TO KILL HER MYSELF, RIP HER FROM LIMB 2 LIMB 4 WHAT SHE DID 2 MY SIRIUS
but...
I'd like harry to crucio her & neville will do soemthing too, but yeah, death is far too good 4 her, I want something to happnen to her even worse than a kiss by a dementor!

Raven
July 21st, 2003, 8:08 am
I think Neville is going to make a good go at her, but in the end, he will be killed (lets face it, he is just not on Bella's level...no student at Hogwarts is). And in the end, it will take either the entire DA, or a couple of members of the Order to finish her off.

Brain storm: Maybe that will be a central point in the next book: Neville's grudge against Bella.

McKinnon02
July 21st, 2003, 11:09 am
It'll be a plot line to follow, certainly. I personally would love to see what Sirius would do to her for killing him, but that isn't going to happen, so I'll just have to settle for a member of the Order or the DA members to do what should have been done a long time ago- teach Bella some MANNERS! :)

YouKnowWho
July 21st, 2003, 11:30 am
I think Voldemort kills Bellatrix, because she failed to complete Voldemort's orders somehow..

But speaking of Bellatrix Lestrange: She had/has a husband. The Lestrangers are a married couple, but only Bellatrix escapes from Azkaban and her husband isn't even mentioned in book 5. (Or maybe i overread it)

MalfoyIsMINE
July 21st, 2003, 12:59 pm
hmmmm....there are so many people who deserve the right to kill her...I think and hope that it is either Lupin, Harry, or Neville..ooooo wouldn't it be great if Neville's gran killed her too!!! I hope that Voldemort doesnt get to kill her, then none of the others get thechance, but i guess it doesnt really matter as long as she is DEAD!!!! muah ha ha ha ha (whoa where did that come from)

Angora
July 21st, 2003, 1:49 pm
I think if it's Neville it won't be through a proper duel. Probably he'll do something crafty (well maybe crafty isn't the right word... but... unexpected or something) at the last minute to make some sort of dastardly plan of hers backfire on her. Incidentally, I see her becomming the dastardly-plan-that-backfires type.

Snuffle-griff
July 21st, 2003, 4:02 pm
how bout this?

Harry and neville both do a unforgetable or whatever curse on her at the same time, and they learned to master it and she dies, from both of them!

haycheng
July 21st, 2003, 4:06 pm
I guess I like the idea of Nerville's grand does it. Although I double she wil be killed.

Stallion1
July 21st, 2003, 7:01 pm
I think Harry will about to kill her but then steps aside and let Neville kill her or they will do it together.

Mary Jane
July 25th, 2003, 1:36 am
If she dies I think it will be Neville that kills her. Given that JK's major theme is choices I think she'll set it up so that Neville will choose to spare her life, she will make a move to hurt someone and he will be ready for it. I'm not sure if he'll kill her outright but perhaps she'll stumble over a cliff or something. :P

Weatherby
July 25th, 2003, 1:46 am
I don't think Harry or Neville are going to kill Bellatrix.
She'll either die by the hand of an adult in the order or a fellow DE will do it.

psychofan
July 25th, 2003, 1:52 am
Neville! Or Ron. It would be great for him to do domething noble like getting rid of Bellatrix!

Pinkerton
July 25th, 2003, 2:11 am
Urgh.. Bellatrix is just pure evil, it didn't take long at all for me to completely despise her.. *glowers* I would love so much for Neville to get revenge.. I'm not quite sure how, though. I know he still has to be very hateful for what she did to his parents, but at the same time I can't imagine Neville killing someone.. but who knows.. It seems like so many characters have been making surprising changes/actions in OOTP.

Lord Thingy
July 25th, 2003, 2:26 am
I think if anyone is going to put Bellatrix to the sword, as it were, Neville deserves to. She's responsible for a lot of deaths and pain in a lot of people's lives, and though Harry has some just cause, Sirius's death could be attributed to bad luck as much as to Bellatrix. Not to mention that Neville has had to see the state of his parents on a regular basis for many years; the Longbottoms' fate is, I think, worse than death.

Evan Rosier
July 25th, 2003, 3:14 am
I just hope she is tortured at the hands of everyone that is to say Harry Neville, Lupin, DD in front of Voldemort and then Voldemort calls some dementors to attack them and while repelling them ( harry and DD) they just suck out the soul of Bella. he deserves something more than death. I just cant wait to see more of her. I want Harry to teach her that how good a teacher she is by using the CC again and again on her.

Nick
July 25th, 2003, 9:44 am
BLASPHEMY!!!

Anybody who tries to touch a single hair on my sweet little Bellatrix's head will suffer my wrath!!

FlarbyGarby
July 25th, 2003, 9:51 am
I think she's going to trip on a roughly laid carpet edge, fall on her face and break her neck personally.:elaugh:

Taichi
July 25th, 2003, 4:07 pm
I think Neville deserves the honor......but don't think he'll bring himself to do it......

I think she'll die by her own blunder.....

Katy Kedevra
July 25th, 2003, 4:12 pm
I think Harry's going to kill her in book six after learning how to use the Unforgivable Curses and using the Cruciatus Curse on her. I believe that because Harry was chosen by Voldemort to be either murdered or a murderer, Neville should stay innocent and pure.

Veneficus
July 25th, 2003, 4:15 pm
Neville certainly deserves the honor for what she did to his parents.

However, I think, Bellatrix will be killed by Harry during a battle with Voldemort in which she will sacrifice herself to save the Dark Lord from Harry's advanced spells. In sacrificing her life Voldemort escapes, to return one last time in book 7.

hermiones mum
July 26th, 2003, 8:10 am
Harry and Neville will face Bellatrix together. Harry because of Sirius and I believe that because of the baby talk references that Bellatrix made, she was at his parents house when they died. Neville as he grows into his future and avenges his parents memories

Vicki
July 26th, 2003, 8:19 am
I would absolutely LOVE for Neville to do it. That scene in St. Mungo's with the bubblegum wrapper made me cry!!

BUT I really don't think it will be Neville, he's too much of a dunderhead, and too innocent. I agree that perhaps she'll die to save her lord in the end of book 6. If not then it will probably be Harry.

ChaliceInnana
July 26th, 2003, 9:25 am
It really should be painful, though. The old avada kevada is a painless death spell. We need something lingering...like a slow disgusting poision. Hmmm, Herbology anyone?

I think she is Neville's kill. Harry can have the assist, but Neville gets to finish her.

Kassandra Amparo
July 26th, 2003, 9:39 am
I hope Neville or Harry will get her.But i'd also love to give her to the centaurs.

padfoot47
August 4th, 2003, 2:37 am
Will Bellatrix be tortured or killed by Voldemort? I hope so. She killed my favorite character!

MadMagic
August 4th, 2003, 2:38 am
I don't think that she will be tortured of killed by Voldemort yet. Maybe in the future, but for now, she is one of the only loyal DE's out of prison. Voldemort also saved her in the Ministry...I don't think he would just turn around and kill her. Maybe by the end, but not now.

McKinnon02
August 4th, 2003, 2:39 am
Voldemort actually seemed to have a special preference for her. She alone proudly endured Azkaban in his service, she tried to find him after his first downfall, he taught her the dark arts himself... I doubt he'd torture her much, let alone kill her.

Ollivander
August 4th, 2003, 2:57 am
I bet she will be killed by the end of book 7. I dont think Voldemort will kill her, but perhaps Harry to avenge Sirius' death. If he is going to have to kill Voldemort, she might be good practice for the real deal.

Picko
August 4th, 2003, 3:12 am
She definately won't be killed because she's just become an integral character in the series and another interesting enemy. I would guess though that Voldemort wouldn't be happy with any of them for not getting the prophecy so there might be a litte torture.

hermiones mum
August 4th, 2003, 3:19 am
Would the deatheaters be jealous of the relationship that Bellatrix has with Voldemort? he did go back for her, and taught her himself.
What family tree would Voldemort be on? Obviously not the Riddle as it would be a muggle tree, do we know the surname of his mother, the witch?

Picko
August 4th, 2003, 3:25 am
I would think that Voldemort had something to do with the teaching of the dark arts for most of the death eaters because the dark arts isn't taught at Hogwarts where most of them would've been taught.

McKinnon02
August 4th, 2003, 3:34 am
That would be true, except that Voldemort had followers in numbers I don't think even he knows. There's no way he could have taught all of them- I think he just taught the most elite.

rotsiepots
August 4th, 2003, 4:08 am
Considering how arrogant she is, she'll probably be impaled on her own sword...so to speak.

I think it's almost certain that she'll end up dead by the end of the series, although I think her death is more likely to happen in book seven than six. I think it's more likely to be a member of the anti-Voldemort allies who ends up killing Bellatrix.

Perhaps Moody will zap her for old time's sake? ;)

I'm also moving this to the Predictions and Theories forum.

Kristus_Vesanus
August 4th, 2003, 4:23 am
The only question now is who Harry hates more, Bellatrix or Voldemort. Personally, I'm pretty sure he hates Bellatrix more, for killing Sirius obviously. If so, it may bring him an advantage or disadvantage in the coming war. Voldemort is the truly powerful one, not that Bellatrix is weak, but if Harry spends all his anger on Bellatrix, he may be unprepared for the fight against Voldemort. Then again, Voldemort will kill more people in the future and if you think all seven Weasleys will survive this, then you probably hope against hope. Almost all of them are actively involved in the war and there's so many of them. Something has to bring out the anger in Harry, because as Dumbledore said, his love for life is his greatest strength and just like he almost used the cruciatus curse to the full extent when he was angry, his powers will advance if someone he knows dies at the hands of Voldemort.

RavenclawsFinest
August 4th, 2003, 8:33 am
There is probably more into Voldemort teaching Bellatrix personally because, it was made obvious in the books that one can learn the dark arts without schooling. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it stated in one of the books that Snape knew loads of dark arts spells before he even attended Hogwarts?

nitRAM
August 4th, 2003, 9:07 am
What about Voldemort saving her so that Bellatrix can be the mother of Voldemorts child?
After all he does have his 'human' form back. Do you not think he could perhaps be wanting to keep the Slytherin line going as he is the last.

Didn't he say during the cemetary scene in GoF that he would embrace mortal life again before chasing immortality.

Picko
August 4th, 2003, 9:30 am
What about Voldemort saving her so that Bellatrix can be the mother of Voldemorts child?
After all he does have his 'human' form back. Do you not think he could perhaps be wanting to keep the Slytherin line going as he is the last.

I think Voldemort's too proud to even consider the possibility of him being killed. He expects to become immortal again sometime soon in the future.

Guardian Angel
August 4th, 2003, 9:35 am
To answer the question - I am sure Bellatrix will be tortured by Voldemort, but I don't think he'll hill her. He might need as much Deatheaters he could get. Bellatrix can still fix the mistake by doing something else. (Remember how Wormtail fixed his mistake and he's still alive, isn't he?)

Nick
August 4th, 2003, 9:51 am
Voldemort will use her for as long as she is useful to him. Then he'll dispose of her in the most efficient way possible.

In any case, if she gets hurt in any way, or is maybe killed to death or something, I for one will be writing a series of extremly angery fanfics in which a dashing hero whos similarity to my person is purely coincidental will save her and destroy utterly the person who hurt her.

Picko
August 4th, 2003, 10:15 am
Originally posted by CaptainNick:
In any case, if she gets hurt in any way, or is maybe killed to death or something, I for one will be writing a series of extremly angery fanfics in which a dashing hero whos similarity to my person is purely coincidental will save her and destroy utterly the person who hurt her.

I look forward to reading that one :lol:

FreyaCrescent
August 4th, 2003, 11:04 am
:lol: As do I Picko!

If anything, Bellatrix will probably be one of the most rewarded Death Eaters after she killed Sirius. She has been incredibly faithful to him, moreso than say.. Lucius Malfoy, who wasn't prepared to face Azkaban for his master. Voldemort himself said "the Lestranges will be honoured beyond their wildest dreams". I doubt that would have changed...

But I would expect one of Dumbledore's side (preferably Neville :p) to lay the smackdown on Bellatrix either in the next or last book...

nitRAM
August 4th, 2003, 11:13 am
I doubt she will be punished for the loss of the prophecy.
The other death eaters who were at the MoM may well be incarcerated in Azkaban, but as we all know the security around the prison is now compromised due to the lack of Dementors so they will be released and Voldemort will no doubt take out his anger on those and not Bellatrix, after all she has proved her loyalty.

I still go with her being the mother of Voldemorts child!

Hermy121
August 4th, 2003, 11:20 am
I dont think voldy will kill her because she is a very loyal DE.

And in case you havent noticed she is a very powerful witch. She got sirius and then ahe got Kingsley. Kingsley didnt die but he was hit with something.

Hermy121
August 4th, 2003, 11:24 am
[QUOTE=FreyaCrescent

If anything, Bellatrix will probably be one of the most rewarded Death Eaters after she killed Sirius.[/QUOTE]

I dont think that is good. The minstry was totally focised in Sirius so he was kind of a distraction from them but now that hes gone there is no distraction.

They could have kept him alive to keep some people still working on trying to capture him. That would be less people working against them.

Sirius Padfoot
August 4th, 2003, 12:10 pm
Bellatrix is definitly doomed to be killed by someone other then Voldemort. I would place my money on Neville. I think Harry will want to kill her because of Sirius, but Neville will get to her first and kill her for his parents. What I want to know is what is her "relationship" with Voldemort other then being a DE. He called her Bella in the Ministry of Magic. That is a nickname, seems kind of like an "endearment."

sindatur
August 4th, 2003, 12:32 pm
I doubt Voldemort will kill Bellatrix, as others have stated she has been the most loyal of the lot, and he did come and whisk her away so she wouldn't be tossed in prison with the rest of them. Additionally, I kinda got the impression that Lucius was in charge of the operation, so if anyone should be punished for the failure of the operation, I would think Lucious would be first on the list.

Rob
August 4th, 2003, 12:38 pm
Neville for the kill ;)

dantares
August 4th, 2003, 2:19 pm
I think she will be given the Dementor's Kiss. It's a fate worse than death.

Pucko
August 4th, 2003, 2:36 pm
i think Neville will help her downfall. she has done more to him than to any other character. and harry will probably be active as well, with that temper of his

drifting.shadow
August 4th, 2003, 3:27 pm
you all know how jk likes to change our opinions of people, i think she will end up being not as bad as everyone thinks she is

humongoratdropping
August 4th, 2003, 4:47 pm
Yes, Neville will shove Harry aside, grow angry, and before Harry can torture her, will grab something, shove it up her nose, and kill her.

Ilovefredandgeorge
August 4th, 2003, 6:36 pm
Neville will totally seek revenge and kill bella!!! He wants to avenge for his parents insanity. He hates bella with a passion!

Mad I
August 4th, 2003, 6:45 pm
There is no way that Bellatrix will be killed by Voldemort, especially after him coming to save her. I feel that Voldemort is beginning to realize how important his death eaters may be in the future. I would also have to agree with several posts above me saying that Harry will channel more anger towards Bellatrix, at least for a while, than towards Voldemort. Eventually, I think that Bellatrix will be killed by giants (who I feel will be guarding Azkaban soon) while making a daring rescue mission of her fellow death eaters (Lucius Malfoy ??).

WeasleyIsOurKing
August 4th, 2003, 7:13 pm
There is no way that Bellatrix will be killed by Voldemort, especially after him coming to save her. I feel that Voldemort is beginning to realize how important his death eaters may be in the future. I would also have to agree with several posts above me saying that Harry will channel more anger towards Bellatrix, at least for a while, than towards Voldemort. Eventually, I think that Bellatrix will be killed by giants (who I feel will be guarding Azkaban soon) while making a daring rescue mission of her fellow death eaters (Lucius Malfoy ??).


Weren't the giants supposed to be on Voldemort's side? Hagrid and Madame Maxime's mission got screwed up by the Death Eaters and by the giants getting into a huge fight.

I think Bellatrix will be killed, or at least horribly tortured, by Neville. Harry will have some vengeful feelings towards her, but I think Neville will be the one who really gets her in the end. After all, she was the one who tortured his parents into insanity. Sure, she did kill the only parental figure Harry has ever known, but Harry has his own battle to worry about, and that's Voldemort.

cordeliablack13
August 4th, 2003, 7:26 pm
She should die, but I don't think Voldemort will kill her until he's does using her.

Mad I
August 4th, 2003, 8:16 pm
I also like the idea of Neville getting revenge for putting his parents in the state that they are in (perhaps this could be a part of the new Neville that we are beggining to see).

Kristus_Vesanus
August 4th, 2003, 9:51 pm
Another question that rises to mind is who's is Bellatrix to kill? Neville's parents were both tortured to insanity, probably under her supervision and wand. Then there's Harry who has the only father-figure he has ever known killed by them when he was old enough to remember it. I think Neville will end up in a duel with Bellatrix while Harry pairs up with Voldemort at the end. Where it goes from there only time can tell.....

*Maven*
August 20th, 2003, 3:51 pm
I think Neville will use his plant MM to make a poision that tortures/ kills Lestrange. Then in order to keep him pure Lupin or Harry will administer it. Also, I would like Harry to perfect his tortureing beforehand.

hesdead-dealwithit
August 20th, 2003, 4:02 pm
I dont think voldy will kill her because she is a very loyal DE.

And in case you havent noticed she is a very powerful witch. She got sirius and then ahe got Kingsley. Kingsley didnt die but he was hit with something.

And she got Tonks.

It better be Neville, is all I can say. She's too powerful for Voldy to kill her off. Plus I bet there will only be a few people that are powerful enough to kill her off - Harry, DD, later in the series Neville, and few more.

haycheng
August 21st, 2003, 3:26 am
While I hope she get lock up instead of killed. I hate good guys killing people off. May be she will be take down by Neville and Harry togather in a fight?

AurorSlayer
August 21st, 2003, 4:03 am
The possibility that Moody, Neville, Harry, or Lupin doing it is too obvious. I could see Ginny or Luna (who's not one of the big three) sacrificing herself for Harry taking out Bellatrix. JKR is notoriusly known for her surprises.

However, I personally think that Bellatrix will kill herself (broken wand, reflected spell, etc) or she will be killed by a simple curse (by Ron, Hermione, etc) gone awry that makes her accidently kill herself.

lorna
August 25th, 2003, 7:58 pm
Since JK Rowling doesn't seem to big with the "eye
for an eye" revenge thing, I don't think Harry or Neville or Tonks will get Bella.
I like the Dementor idea but what might destroy Bella more is Voldie saying "Nice working with you
now Avada......."
Anything as long as she never talks again. That
baby voice thing was really really getting on my nerves.
Or my other thought, an eternity writing "I will never ever kill a close relative again" lines with Umbridge's "special" pen.

phoenix_gurl
August 25th, 2003, 9:26 pm
I think that Neville will be the one who is going to give her what she deserves(cuz in my opinion, she deserves more than death). She destroyed his family:sobs: and she saw how she made another person miserable(Harry). It may be the other way around, and be Harry who finishes her of. I think Neville will get his revenge even if it takes him all he's got. Go neville!~~~

LightningTuna
August 25th, 2003, 10:17 pm
I can't really see Neville killing her, or even torturing her. He just does'nt seem to be that sort of person. Maybe out of a moment of anger though, if Bella taunts him about his parents again. I don't think it will be Harry either, the only murder I hope he commits will be Voldermorts, and that might not even be murder. When Bellatrix dies though (if she even does, but I'm pretty sure she will, I think she will go out with a bang, and Harry will be present. But if someone does kill her - and I think her death be be a mistake on her own part - my bet is on Lupin. Either that, or Voldie will kill her for some reason or another. Or, as someone else up there said, an eternity writing lines with Umbridges quill :evil:

Angora
August 26th, 2003, 3:24 am
However, I personally think that Bellatrix will kill herself (broken wand, reflected spell, etc) or she will be killed by a simple curse (by Ron, Hermione, etc) gone awry that makes her accidently kill herself.

I can see her having one of her plans backfire on her.

I could also see Neville killing her with herbology. (I have to sing "she blinded me with science" now because my brain connects the two things for some reason). Something along the lines of "Ha! I tricked you into putting those leaves in the sun and everyone knows that when you do that, they turn into a monster!" but making more sense than that. :)

jaypee
July 17th, 2004, 7:21 pm
What if Frank and Alice got their memories back, Frank joined the Order, there was THE Battle, and Frank kills Bella? Woo!

Remus Black
July 17th, 2004, 7:22 pm
Probally Neville.

SquibOnline
July 17th, 2004, 7:25 pm
I reacon she kills dumbledore and then harry kills her

Gwenog Jones
July 17th, 2004, 7:33 pm
I hope Neville is the one to kill/torture her. I think that if Bella taunts him about his parents, Neville would have enough anger to use Cruciatus Curse. I do not think it will be Harry, because he needs to concentrate on killing Voldemort.

gymmuggle
July 17th, 2004, 7:50 pm
PLEASE!!!... J.K Rowling... please let Neville get her!

Neddlie
July 17th, 2004, 10:23 pm
I hope Neville turns her into a bubble gum wrapper.

Sile
July 17th, 2004, 10:40 pm
Nah I think death is too good for her. Let neville get his revenge and then she will get a big snog from the dementors

Da_Chinkster
July 17th, 2004, 10:49 pm
Neville will use all the gum wrappers into one huge silver sheet which reflects the Avada Kedavra curse back onto Bellatrix!!!! Nah I can see Neville going into a fit of rage (like has in the past) and forget magic he'll just beat her to within and inch of her life!!! Im sorry I cant think up anything remotely reasonable I jsut hope Neville gets her good

prongfoot
July 17th, 2004, 11:05 pm
I think that Neville and Harry will Hit at the same time but she won't die. Then Voldemort will have her kissed by a dementor for failing to capture Harry and Neville. OR Grawp can kill her. Of course if I could torture her that would be better.

inoLIKEmonkeys
July 17th, 2004, 11:15 pm
Neville's Mimblus Mimbletonia will leap out of the pot and suffocate Bellatrix, while Neville uses the cruciartus curse on her.

fabulouskirsten
July 17th, 2004, 11:19 pm
I'm not so keen on any of the young characters being murderers or even torturing people, our main characters on the "good side" are all Gryffindors, except Luna (which could come in useful) and thus they are good and brave and noble. Look at Harry sparing Pettigrew even though he was the reason Harry's parents died. I think the significance of Dumbledore's line about there being a fate worse than death will come into play with Bellatrix, the Dementor's kiss being one of them. Was that what Dumbledore was referring to, or was he talking about something else? I do love the idea of Neville's parents being restored, he truly deserves some happiness.

Lavender Brown
July 17th, 2004, 11:25 pm
Both Harry and Neville have reason to hate her, but I think Harry will be a little preoccupied with Voldemort. Maybe Neville will have the chance to kill her, but like Harry did for Pettigrew, Neville will show mercy and she will instead be locked in Azkaban forever (supposing they find someone to replace the dementors).

Violet Black
July 17th, 2004, 11:39 pm
If JK makes it a matter of poetic justice, either Neville or Harry will take Bellatrix out. Between the two of them, they have the biggest claim to her.

My hunch - they'll kill her together.

I initially thought Neville might perform the Cruciatus curse on Bellatrix before Harry AK's her. The perfect 'eye for eye' scenario - Neville subjects her to the same torture his parents endured; Harry kills her to avenge the murder of Sirius.

However, in OOTP she said 'righteous anger won't hurt me for long' - the person has to ENJOY causing pain for the curse to really hurt her. This doesn't strike me as particularly Neville-like, though it's unclear whether Bellatrix meant that the one causing the pain has to enjoy hurting people in general, like she does, or just her specifically, in which case Neville might be able to do it.

I know it's unwise to draw too many LOTR parallels, but I keep thinking about Eowyn and Merry versus the Witch King. Bellatrix strikes me as being to Voldemort what the Witch King was to Sauron - his greatest servant. Neville might cripple her, as Merry did to the WK, with Harry finishing her off, like Eowyn.

I'm not so keen on any of the young characters being murderers or even torturing people, our main characters on the "good side" are all Gryffindors, except Luna (which could come in useful) and thus they are good and brave and noble. Look at Harry sparing Pettigrew even though he was the reason Harry's parents died. I think the significance of Dumbledore's line about there being a fate worse than death will come into play with Bellatrix, the Dementor's kiss being one of them. Was that what Dumbledore was referring to, or was he talking about something else? I do love the idea of Neville's parents being restored, he truly deserves some happiness.

That's a very important point - as mentioned in OOTP, the world isn't made up of 'good people' on one side and 'Death Eaters' on the other. There are perhaps more noble and appropriate forms of justice than an endless cycle of killing. Is killing necessary? At which point does it stop? Will events necessitate the use of extreme force? If they do, will the members of the Order be any better than their foes? Will personal integrity be the cost of victory? It would make for a bittersweet ending.

TerrierMom
July 17th, 2004, 11:42 pm
Neville will get her!

peachfuzz8327
July 18th, 2004, 12:22 am
i really think itll b neville~once he gets a new wand because his dad's broke, hes bound to be more powerful and will even help the order~i dont think he will kill or torture them, just capture them~i dont think jk would make neville sink that low

Katarzyna
July 18th, 2004, 12:30 am
I hope they get a time-turner and take turns killing her over and over and over and over....
Ha ha ha, that's good!

I think Neville will get Bellatrix.
Lupin will get Pettigrew.
Harry will get Voldemort.

And there will be much rejoicing!

MiniHermione
July 18th, 2004, 12:48 am
Everyone thinks that Harry will get Voldemort. Good thinking but i object! No offence, but i think Harry will get Bellaxtrix(dont know how to spell her name) becuase you know after he found out that Black was the reason for harry's parents to be dead and he wanted to go after him. Well Now that he had Black ,his next best thing to a fatherly figure except for James, he will obviously be mad and go after Lestrange for killing his Godfather. Then I think after that He, Ron, and Hermione, and Neville, maybe Ginny and hopefully Fred and George will go in for the attack on the others and Voldemort after giving Harry the priveledge of killing Lestrange on his own. Then DD will show up with the following: Lupin Tonks and some other order ppl i dont know. And they will concour ,and there ya go! I think Harry will kill Voldemort in the 7th book though so i dont think this will happen till then but when it does and it finishes i think there will be tears from the readers :upset: (happy they won and sad the book is over) and a lot of celebrating form the characters :tu: AND the ending of the books will be kick (fill in this word with your own smart self)!!!!!!! :cool:

Spikey
July 18th, 2004, 1:23 am
Neville's Mimblus Mimbletonia will leap out of the pot and suffocate Bellatrix I like this idea :)

Shauna
July 18th, 2004, 1:24 am
I would love to see Neville finish her off, but I think it more likely that she dies by mishap.

Shauna

IceKat55
July 18th, 2004, 1:30 am
If it has to be any of the kids, then I hope it's Neville...poetic justice, as someone else said. I just hate to think of any of the kids having to kill anyone, though...even someone as icky as Bellatrix. They're 16/17 years old, and yes it's a war and yes they've seen plenty of horrors already...but taking another life is a whole different ballgame. Not the way I'd choose to have any of them lose their "innocence". :upset:

Spikey
July 18th, 2004, 1:47 am
Maybe she will suffer the same fate as sirius?? now that WOULD be poetic justice

IceKat55
July 18th, 2004, 1:53 am
Maybe she will suffer the same fate as sirius?? now that WOULD be poetic justice
Oooooh, YES! Have Harry and/or Neville just drop-kick her sorry tailfeathers through that ruttin' veil!!! :rotfl:

ripper48
July 18th, 2004, 2:00 am
If I could, I'd kill her and cut Sirius' name into her.

In the book though, I think that Harry will probably do the honours.

I know Neville deserves to have a go at her too, but Harry's the hero...He has to terminate the bi.tch.

SeekerLynch
July 18th, 2004, 2:05 am
I just hate to think of any of the kids having to kill anyone, though...even someone as icky as Bellatrix. They're 16/17 years old, and yes it's a war and yes they've seen plenty of horrors already...but taking another life is a whole different ballgame. Not the way I'd choose to have any of them lose their "innocence".

Well, Harry, at least, will obviosly kill someone (or someone will kill him, but I hope not). But as for the rest of the kids, I hope none of them have to become murderers. I think Neville will get revenge on Bellatrix, but I don't think he'll kill her. Maybe he'll do her something worse; Dumbledore mentioned there are things worse than death.

Cheezewiz_911
July 18th, 2004, 2:12 am
I don't know why but I would prefer her to become good but since that is impossibole it will probably be Tonks, or Harry.

IceKat55
July 18th, 2004, 2:14 am
Dumbledore mentioned there are things worse than death.
Maybe Harry will cast a spell that will cause Voldemort & all the DEs to grow a conscience and have a heart, and the overwhelming flow of emotion will throw them all into a permanent catatonic state!! :p

SeekerLynch
July 18th, 2004, 2:19 am
Maybe Harry will cast a spell that will cause Voldemort & all the DEs to grow a conscience and have a heart, and the overwhelming flow of emotion will throw them all into a permanent catatonic state!! :p

Interesting, but unlikely. Let me explain. JKR said she did not write Harry Potter with an intention to teach morals. She said that the morals just kind of grew into the story. If the ending is Harry making the Bad Guys get a concience and a heart, then that's not a moral that grew into the plot, but a central part of the story.

IceKat55
July 18th, 2004, 2:22 am
Interesting, but unlikely. Let me explain. JKR said she did not write Harry Potter with an intention to teach morals. She said that the morals just kind of grew into the story. If the ending is Harry making the Bad Guys get a concience and a heart, then that's not a moral that grew into the plot, but a central part of the story.
Oh, I know....I was just joking. Aside from all you said, it would be positively the lamest ending she could possible come up with! ;)

SiriusBlack22
July 18th, 2004, 2:25 am
This sounds out of the question... but...
I think Sirius will come back and get his revenge on Bellatrix... for I think that Sirius lives on.

iluvhhr
July 18th, 2004, 2:38 am
Hmm. I have a feeling it will be Harry, but I'm not going to rule out Lupin. They were best friends, after all.

Voldie_Mort
July 18th, 2004, 2:42 am
Maybe something will happen with Neville and Harry, they'll fight eachother because they both want her dead. Ooohh!! Scary thought... I'm posting a new thread!

Cheezewiz_911
July 18th, 2004, 2:52 am
They aren't that stupid. They would probably team up to defeat her.

Aoweil
July 18th, 2004, 2:52 am
I won't mind whoever gets her, just as long as someone does get her. She seriously needs to die. :evil: Though, I think it would be the most satifactory if someone who was directly effected by her killed her (ie., Harry, Lupin, Neville).

Edit: I agree Cheezewhiz_911. It would be very out of character for Harry and Neville to turn on each other because they both wanted at the same person.

Hermywormy
July 18th, 2004, 3:05 am
I hope Nellive does the Criucitus (sp?) Curse on her, like she did to his parents! Then He can kill her. I don't really see any of them as muderers. But I think we should let Neville have SOME revenge. Harry can save it for Voldie.

RELASHIO Rachel
July 18th, 2004, 3:40 am
I hate her more than I hate Voldemort. She's evil, truely evil. It infuriates me as to what she did to Frank and Alice Longbottom and what she did to Sirius!! My hopes are high for a Harry and Neville team-up and they don't just kill her, but do something more horrible, as Dumbledore says that "there are worse things than death". Give it to her Harry and/or Neville.

ComicBookWorm
July 18th, 2004, 3:51 am
I think Neville will be the one to take her down. It could be a kind of one-two punch, Harry then Neville. But it will be Neville who can have the credit.

hufflepina
July 18th, 2004, 7:03 pm
neville but why not Tonks

Neddlie
July 18th, 2004, 7:08 pm
I hope Neville turns her into a bubble gum wrapper.

Plus, I Harry flushes the wrapper down Moaning Myrtle's toilet.

Mundungus Fletc
July 18th, 2004, 7:14 pm
Why does anyone have to kill her? The Dementors kiss sounds worse than death to me. I wonder whether any of the 'good side' will kill a DE. It seems to bring them down to the same level.

IceKat55
July 18th, 2004, 7:46 pm
I wonder whether any of the 'good side' will kill a DE. It seems to bring them down to the same level.
This worries me, also....I'd hate for the kids to have to kill anyone, for whatever reason. The psychological scars would be atrocious. But I reckon it'll have to happen...

*sigh* War $uck$...

odysius
July 18th, 2004, 7:49 pm
My guess is that Mom and pop Longbottom somehow recover and gain their own bit of revenge. I think the gum wrappers are a sign that the lights are beginning to come on upstairs.

fleur magique
July 18th, 2004, 11:03 pm
I hope that Neville will capture Bellatrix. Yes, Harry has the right to get her and it was sad that he saw her kill Sirius, but for Neville to go through life knowing that his own parents don't even know who he is is much worse. I don't want him to kill her because if he were to kill her he would no better than she is but just capture her and turn her over to the MoM would be good.

_TheDarkMark_
July 19th, 2004, 12:00 am
neville will be killed and then mabey harry will finish her

aish
July 19th, 2004, 12:19 am
whoever kills her, I hope Neville uses the "crucio" curse several times on her

AlisiameGranger
July 19th, 2004, 12:21 am
Plus, I Harry flushes the wrapper down Moaning Myrtle's toilet.

:clap: Where she can sit in the U-bend and watch Myrtle pick at her spots. Yes, absolutely.


If it is Harry or Neville, I'm sure it won't be with one of the unforgiveable curses:
OotP, page 810--
"Never used an Unforgiveable Curse, have you, boy?" she yelled. . . . You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause pain--to enjoy it--riteous anger won't hurt me for long . . . "
However much she deserves it, I cannot see any of the "heroes" (and yes, I use the term advisedly) using a curse where the driving force is the desire to hurt.

Kimmetje
July 25th, 2004, 11:43 am
I think Harry'll kill Bellatrix just out of vengenge for Sirius. Seems reasonable to me as Harry must hate Bellatrix...

But Bellatrix could also be killed by a member of the Order (Lupin maybe) who wants to vengenge Sirius as well...

Puffskein
July 25th, 2004, 2:40 pm
I think we learned from the business of Wormtail that Jo thinks revenge killing brings down the killer, no matter what the victim did. So I don't want to see any character I care for sink to that level for Bellatrix's sake. Better that Voldemort does it, or she gets the Dementor's kiss.

Avada Kedavra
July 26th, 2004, 8:00 am
When I use the term 'finish-off', I don't mean kill...

I am kinda hoping Harry doesn't finish Bellatrix off. It would be too expected. If I had the choice, maybe Neville or Hermione. Puffskein's right, I'm not really sure if the kids will end up killing someone (except for Harry and Voldy of course) as it is too far beneath them. But hey, it's a war, you never know...Lupin may get his licks in too...actually, I think it would be really interesting (and depressing) if Lupin dies at the hands of Bellatrix...

Dementor Dave
July 26th, 2004, 8:06 am
All this assumes that anyone who could kill Bellatrix would kill Bellatrix. It is pretty well established that she's no pushover, so whoever it is would have to be a powerful wizard themselves! So then the real question is whwther or not these wizards have the chance and would they.
-Dementor Dave

MaraudersMap
July 26th, 2004, 8:17 am
I found a very interesting editorial on Mugglenet about the reasoning for why Maline believes Ron will die. The second reasoning uses the chess game to predict the future for the Second War. The black pieces are the Aurors and the OotP, and the white pieces are the DE's. Voldemort is the white king, Dumbledore obviously the black king. Bellatrix is the white queen, since she is the only prominent female DE and close to Voldemort. In the game, the white queen (Bellatrix) takes one of the black knights (Sirius), and then takes the OTHER black night, whose position Ron filled. I won't say everything, since you can all read for yourselves, so I'll just give you the link:
http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/thenorthtower/nt22.shtml

FredWeasleyJr
July 26th, 2004, 8:24 am
i dont htink that neville or harry know a curse that could kill, well of course they know one but i dont htink they could actually pull it off, beause moody (crouch jr) said that it wouldnt even give him a headache or something

therefor, i think either harry will learn one becuase he has to kill voldemort sooner or later, otherwise hell die himself, or lupin or someone else in the order will have to do off with the little stinker

Droobles
July 26th, 2004, 8:34 am
SIRIUS WHEN HE RETURNS!

fabulouskirsten
July 26th, 2004, 10:38 am
I hope Bellatrix gets justice and not death...death is such an easy way out for somebody who has committed crimes like she has.

Hogwarts Lake
July 26th, 2004, 12:02 pm
I want her to suffer before she dies Azkaban was clearly not enough! Remus, Harry or Neville could do it....Crucio perhaps? soul being sucked out and getting lost forever - dementor's kiss anyone? :evil:

armjachewa
July 26th, 2004, 12:44 pm
Neville Will Put a Crucious Curse On Her

you have to really mean it to make it work

who else has more hate for her than neville, she has taken his parents from him not literally but they are shells of themselves.

if its not neville i hope that frank and alice do recover and get her :D :evil:

Dementor Dave
July 27th, 2004, 8:33 am
dementor's kiss anyone?

Oh it is a shame they are on her side now! If anyone in the Order has the opportunity to kill Bellatrix (or any other Death Eater) they should take it, cruel or not. This is a war, and the Death Eaters are no pushovers. As a matter of fact, they are some of the most powerful Dark Wizards in the world. Can't be picky in a War, can we now?
-Dementor Dave

Classical_Wizar
July 27th, 2004, 8:37 am
Why does anyone have to get Bellatrix? She’s one of my favorite of the series; I don’t think anyone would maybe moody but that she would end up in some prison again. If someone from the Order does kill her doesn’t that make them the same as one of Voldemort supporters? After all the good guys aren’t supposed to kill the villains. Why does anyone have to get Bellatrix? She’s one of my favorite of the series; I don’t think anyone would maybe moody but that she would end up in some prison again. If someone from the Order does kill her doesn’t that make them the same as one of Voldemort supporters? After all the good guys aren’t supposed to kill the villains.

niffler12
July 27th, 2004, 9:44 am
Ya Bella was involved in the tourture of Nevilles parents, but we're talking MURDER here people! Nevilles too good to sink that low. If the theory of the chess game in the end of PS/SS is indeed a foreshadow, then Ron will have to sacrifice himself in someway( I hope not death) so that Harry's in perfect position to take her out and kill Voldemort. He's already shocked enough that he has to commit murder once, why would he want to have a second helping? Death is too good for Bella... no, something much juicier will happen to her.

Dementor Dave
July 27th, 2004, 9:50 am
Nevilles too good to sink that low.
No offense intended, but i doubt seriously that, even if he wanted too, Neville would hold a candle to a hardened Dark Witch. He's made leaps and bounds, but his not jumping over the moon.
-Dementor Dave

niffler12
July 27th, 2004, 10:05 am
No offense taken Dave, I've just noticed that Neville has been getting better and hey, who know? Maybe if he's pushed and provoked enough we may yet see a "stronger" side of Neville. I'm not saying that he'll miraculously become Super Neville, but there is room for improvement. And I like Neville.

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 10:59 pm
Her list of Enemies is growing at a rapid rate.

Possibility for Book 6?

:evil:

JRMorris
August 12th, 2004, 11:03 pm
If bellatrix is gonna be killed it'll be at the hands of Neville. At least thats how I would like it to be.

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 11:04 pm
For some reason I think Bellatrix will get to Neville First.

:upset: :evil:

JRMorris
August 12th, 2004, 11:07 pm
you might also want to look here http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=23553&highlight=Bellatrix its not specifically focused on Bellatrix but still discuss who might be killed by harry in the future.

MagicMuggle
August 12th, 2004, 11:08 pm
I think that we should give a little credit to Neville where it's due! Multiple times, we are shown that is becoming steadily stronger. What's to say that he won't somehow conquer Bellatrix and make her pay for what she did to his parents! Maybe it will have something to do with Herbology! ;)

But then again, Neville is a noble person...So the revenge way is probably out...

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 11:09 pm
Does Neville really have the

Courage
Mind
Skill

To Face and kill Bellatrix?

How do you pronounce Bellatrix by the way?

xharrypotterx
August 12th, 2004, 11:11 pm
Originally Posted by JRMorris:
If bellatrix is gonna be killed it'll be at the hands of Neville. At least thats how I would like it to be.

I know the prophecy says that Harry has a power 'the dark lord knows not,' but do you really think that Neville or Harry have enough power to kill a foe out right, at least at their current level...or their level by book 6 or 7? They are both becoming more and more powerful with each new book, but like the Imposter Moody said in GoF (pg 215, American hardback):

"Avada Kedavra's a curse that needs a powerful bit of magic behind it - you could all get your wands out right now and point them at me and say the words, and I doubt I'd get so much as a nosebleed. But that doesn't matter. I'm not here to teach you how to do it."

Of course, that was in their fourth year and surely the two have increased in their skill level dramatically, but do you think they will advance that much before the end? Enough to kill?

JRMorris
August 12th, 2004, 11:11 pm
Yeah I guess Neville wouldn't have it in him to kill her, but I do believe that its not far fetched to say that Neville could cause her downfall. Like her capture or something.

AurorSlayer
August 12th, 2004, 11:17 pm
Winky will kill Bellatrix, not Harry.

grrliz
August 12th, 2004, 11:17 pm
If bellatrix is gonna be killed it'll be at the hands of Neville. At least thats how I would like it to be. Totally, that would be a nice, sweet bit of poetic justice.

But if any of the kids are going to end up killing someone, I can only see it happening in Book 7, not Book 6.

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 11:18 pm
Could be...but I dunno...

Anyway, I ask again: How do you pronounce Bellatrix?

Who else, do you think, has a chance of Killing Bellatrix? Or capturing her?
Would Voldemort have anything to do with it?

DougJohnston
August 12th, 2004, 11:19 pm
Who will get Bellatrix (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=11340&highlight=bellatrix)
I think this thread you are looking for

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 11:23 pm
I thought it would be French, like Bell-a-tree

xharrypotterx
August 12th, 2004, 11:23 pm
Originally Posted by AurorSlayer:
Winky will kill Bellatrix, not Harry.

Why do you think Winky will be the one to do in Bellatrix?

Oh, its pronounced like this: BEE-A-TRICKS

SyirenSlytherin
August 12th, 2004, 11:25 pm
considering how ****** Neville got at Malfoys mere mention of the ward at St Mungo, i think he has it in him to do some serious damage to Bellatrix.

grrliz
August 12th, 2004, 11:38 pm
Peronsally, I've always read "Bellatrix" as "bell-a-tricks". The other pronunciations other people have mentioned sound French to me; "trix" as "tree" and the double "l" as a "y" sound, combined might be Bee-ya-tree.

I like "bell-a-tricks" though, not just cause that's how I pronounce it. It reminds me of "belle" (as in girl / woman) and tricks (as in dirty tricks), which somehow fits her character. :)

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 11:46 pm
Why I suddenly think it is called Bella-tree (or Bella-tricks) because I just opened OotP and saw Voldemort calling Her "Bella"

"Be quiet, Bella," said Voldemort Dangerously.

So thats why I doubt it is "Bee-a-trix/tree"

Da_Chinkster
August 12th, 2004, 11:50 pm
I dont think Bellatrix will get killed by anyone on the side of good. To me no matter how much anger and hatred you feel, neither Neville nor Harry would find the conviction to kill. It just like PoA when he saves Wormtail, if he cant bare to see someone else kill the person who essentially killed his parents, how will he bring himself to doing it.

ConradSims2
August 12th, 2004, 11:52 pm
Good point there...

But maybe Voldemort will kill her. He seems kinda angry with her at the end of Book 5, then again, he needs her (she's powerful)

DougJohnston
August 12th, 2004, 11:54 pm
For pronunciation help there is this thread...
Character Name and Spell Pronunciations (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=1703)

Sorcha
August 12th, 2004, 11:58 pm
Well, maybe she'll get killed in the crossfire. One can only hope. At any rate, we all seem to agree that she needs to die.

MarauderPadfoot
August 13th, 2004, 12:05 am
I would like to see harry and neville both fight bellatrix back to back...then they would both get there revenge, ive only ever hated bellatrix because what she did to sirius....i didnt really feel much emtion for neville but oh well..neville harry bellatrix : duel to the death !

'' Death is a dish best served cold '' - ancient japanese proverb

kreacher44
August 13th, 2004, 12:09 am
Maybe Neville will find a way to use his mimbulus mimbletonia to kil Bellatrix

ConradSims2
August 13th, 2004, 12:21 am
She'd be able to take both of them out if she had her wand on her...

Aubrey
August 13th, 2004, 12:28 am
I'm sure someones going to kill her. Harry, Neville, or even both. Neville doesn't seem the type to, then again he was in line for the phrophecy.

hollow0
August 13th, 2004, 12:47 am
I know the prophecy says that Harry has a power 'the dark lord knows not,' but do you really think that Neville or Harry have enough power to kill a foe out right, at least at their current level...or their level by book 6 or 7? They are both becoming more and more powerful with each new book, but like the Imposter Moody said in GoF (pg 215, American hardback):



Of course, that was in their fourth year and surely the two have increased in their skill level dramatically, but do you think they will advance that much before the end? Enough to kill?

I think Harry has enough power to use the death curse.

soccergoddess24
August 13th, 2004, 1:12 am
oh i for sure hope SOMEONE kills her...anyone...but harry/neville would be nice..maybe neville will help harry in some way to kill her? or maybe together?

bethp
August 13th, 2004, 2:43 am
I think it would be good if it was a joint effort between Neville and Harry...let them both get justice.

Bellatrix is pronounced Bell-a-tricks according to the UK version of the audio book.

ConradSims2
August 13th, 2004, 8:04 am
Or she could get caught by the ministry...

Do you think Neville would kill her or turn her in if he had the chance to?

xharrypotterx
August 13th, 2004, 8:11 am
Do you think Neville would kill her or turn her in if he had the chance to?


Hmmm, I'm not so sure Neville would turn her in. She did torture his parents in to insanity. Thats not something that you could just forget by giving them a sentence in Azkaban. Plus, Bellatrix has already done serious time in Azkaban, so it would be as if anything had changed. Although, Harry did show mercy to Peter Pettigrew in PoA, and Wormtail did betray his parents to their deaths, but he only did that so Sirius' name could be cleared. I'm not sure that Neville could kill Bellatrix either. Not that I have any bit of doubt in Neville (yay Neville! :rotfl: )....its just that he doesn't seem like the person who would kill. Neither does Harry for that matter. I'm confused.

potterfreak
August 13th, 2004, 8:52 am
neville can definitely be strong. perhaps he has not the power to practice the "AVADA KEDAVRA" but hey, I'm sure there are other possibilities to kill someone.

but I'm completely convinced that neither harry nor neville will kill bella. this is not jo's style and not her message. murder is never the solution ...

this "mimbulus mimbletonia-thing" is interesting. perhaps this little plant can help neville to get his revenge - I did not say that it should kill her ;-))
would be great to read. I'm just imagining how it spits on bella and she gets stiff and lies flat on the ground not able to move ...

neville has become one of my fave-characters, he is just great.

he is a gryffindor and this must have a reason ...

Nymph
August 13th, 2004, 9:57 am
I am not sure she would be killed but I guess that if she has to be, it would be better if Neville killed her. But I doubt Neville would kill her. The member of the order won't kill if then can help it. Moody could though, Lupin as well.
Neville would have to master a killing curse...

bethp
August 13th, 2004, 4:03 pm
I think that Bella will need to be killed or destroyed in the end...she is just to sadistic...she take pleasure in torturing people and I think it would be a great end to book 6 for her to be destroyed - I keep thinking about DD's "there are things far worse than death". My thought is that Neville and Harry can hopefully bring her down together they both deserve justice for their losses. Maybe with the help of Lupin? I don't think chucking her back in Azkaban would be wise she is one of LVs most loyal and I think he would just break her out again.

Machiavelli
August 13th, 2004, 4:13 pm
I think it's interesting that no one is bothered at the thought of these nice kids being murderers! I mean, I know what Bellatrix and V have done, that's not the point, the point is that killing someone - ANYONE - is a horrible thing to have to do. Making the choice not to kill is more important.

And for the record, I definitely agree that Bellatrix, Dolohov (sp) and V deserve death, or punishment of some sort, I just don't think that having Harry or Neville go out and kill someone for revenge would be in character. They might plan to, intend to even but I would hope they wouldn't actually be able to. Now self defense....

Lord Nicholai
August 13th, 2004, 4:21 pm
Harry wouldnt kill anyone. Weve seen it in POA. he could have let Pettigrew die right there infront of him, the man who betrayed his parents. Instead...well im sure you all know the story :p

I even doubt he'll kill Voldemort..

C8H10N4O2
August 13th, 2004, 4:22 pm
I don't think any dark wizard will be killed, unless accidentally. I believe they will be captured and put in to Azkhaban. However, I think Harry and Neville BOTH will have a hand in her capture.

atherella
August 13th, 2004, 4:25 pm
I don't think any dark wizard will be killed, unless accidentally. I believe they will be captured and put in to Azkhaban. However, I think Harry and Neville BOTH will have a hand in her capture.

While I don't know if Harry will kill Beatrix or not, although I hope she DOES die, I don't agree with this statement above, only because this is a war, and there are bounds to be deaths on both the good and bad side, as well as muggle deaths, which JKR has confirmed.

Danluver182
August 13th, 2004, 4:29 pm
I would love for Neville to kill Bellatrix. That would be sweet justice. And you never know...we've already seen a great deal of courage in Neville in the 5th book.

Lord Nicholai
August 13th, 2004, 4:36 pm
personally i dont want to see Neville kill her. I would like to see Neville sat outside Bellatrix's cell in azkaban, randomly shouting crucio and asking her how she likes it...even thats too good for her.

Besides, Nevilles better then that.

bethp
August 13th, 2004, 6:25 pm
personally i dont want to see Neville kill her. I would like to see Neville sat outside Bellatrix's cell in azkaban, randomly shouting crucio and asking her how she likes it...even thats too good for her.


Oh I like that! :rotfl: WOuld be a great punishment although she is so sadistic she might like it!

I don't think they will necessarily set out and say oh today I am going to murder Bella...my thought is if in a fight they are confronted with her that together Neville and Harry could destroy her...what that means I don't know but could be something like Sirius's death just an effect of the fighting...I don't see either using the AK curse on her for example. But she really really needs to go!

Seven
August 13th, 2004, 6:28 pm
I think Bellatrix will die but not by Harry. In the final battle I think she will still be alive and Harry will be dealing with the Dark Lord. But there will be others with Harry that might do the deed.