Future Book Titles

[Aria Angel]

I searched and couldn't find a thread on this. If there already is one, please move it to the correct place.

The UK patent and trademark office has a website where you can do a search. I found a few interesting tidbits when I searched for Harry Potter, such as...

Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell
Harry Potter and the Chariots of Light
Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat

All of the above were registered on 4/25/2000, the same date as Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Just wanted to let anyone know that might be interested in possible titles for future books. Looks like JKR has some in mind.

Here is the link to the database search. Just type in Harry Potter and see for yourself.

http://webdb4.patent.gov.uk/tm/text



Aria

[Thyme_of_Change]

curiouser and curiouser........

[lanifiel]

I'm placing this in the Common Room.

Nice to know though :D

[Morgoth]

Could be a trick to throw people off the scent.

[Alastor D]

I'm afraid these are the same fakes we have been told about earlier.
Somebody had invented 3 titles and got them registered, and the Warner Bros bought the rights for them. (There really are lots of escapees from St Mungos walking free.)
One,easily spotted, basical flaw is that there are 3 of them. JKR has many times said she never planned to write more than 7 HP books. Obviously the person who made this had no idea about the 5th title.

[aragog]

I remember hearing about this on the radio right after the title for Book 5 was announced. It's a hose, those aren't the book titles. AlastorD is exactly right, there were only ever going to be 7 books and those 3 titles would have made it 8 books total.

Plus they don't sound very cool to me so I've been suspicious of them from the start :D

[Fuchsia]

Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell sounds like a ripoff of POA and SS.

[Aria Angel]

Well, I am not going to dismiss these titles for several reasons.

1. Ok so there are 3 titles and only 2 books left. So what? Some of the other books have had titles besides the ones they ended up with. For example, GOF had 2 other titles before she settled on Goblet of Fire.

2. Patents and trademarks are not cheap. Why would some random person pay for 3 of them? Doesn't make any sense to me.

3. They were registered on the SAME DAY as Goblet of Fire. Coincidence?

4. Just cuz someone on the radio says they aren't real, doesn't mean anything. I won't believe anyone who says they aren't real unless it's JKR herself. People in the media make up tons of stuff, in case you haven't noticed.

So, bottom line, I am not going to discredit them.

Also, Warner Brothers isn't stupid. If they bought the rights to them, there is a reason.

Aria

[aragog]

Actually, what I heard on the radio was that they ARE real. They said one of them was to become the title of Book 5 and invited callers to guess what it was going to be. Not exactly reliable, the radio, huh?

"Revenge of the Jedi" and "Blue Harvest" were names used for the original Star Wars movies and they even had shirts and hats (among other things) made up for crew members. But those weren't real either. I'd think it's common for things like books, movies and records to have fake names used to throw people off, especially ones with the amount of scrutiny that Harry Potter gets.

[Capella]

The BBC reported these names as real a few months ago. I didn't know that they were considered fakes by most people.
I assumed there was an extra title because JKR had yet to decide which of the three to use - though now that I think about it, it does seem a little suspect that she's decided on possible names for 6 and 7 before she has even written them...

[Michelle]

Well, she knows what is going to happen so she can think of the titles... However I don't believe that these are the real ones. They just don't sound very Rowlingish.

[Fleur]

I think they are more or less red herrrings to keep the mystery of future titles secret. It's not like JKR hasn't done this before-Gof was orginally called Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament.

[Alastor D]

Originally posted by Capella (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=357272#post357272))
The BBC reported these names as real a few months ago. I didn't know that they were considered fakes by most people.


Really? They are contradicting themselves then. Anyone interested may look at this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_2347000/2347285.stm
Updated October 21st 2002.

JKR's own words: "No one,not in my family or anybody, knows the the titles to Book Six or Seven. And I'm going to keep it that way for now."

[kaioticgirl]

I heard that the seventh book might be "Harry Potter and the Forest of Shadows"...but I don't know how true/reliable that is

[Schlubalybub]

i cant remember what i posted, but it was locked, and it was VERY contradictory, from 2 different sites, with 2 different opinions:

found it! this is what i posted!!!

are the final books called:

harry potter and the green flame torch

and

harry potter and the fortress of shadows?

i also found:

-The 7th book might be called "Harry Potter and the Forest of Shadows".


fortess? forest? i dunno!

well, here are my contributions!

[dumbleedore]

I heard that Warner Bros registered them to throw people of the trail of the names, cause remember, they own HP.

[Daveydee]

Has anybody considered that if these titles were patented at the time of GoF, that they are in fact genuine titles registered by JKR. Provisional titles perhaps. So that what is now OotP started life with a provisional title of The Alchemists Cell. Does this title, perhaps, answer some of the speculation concerning the picture on the book cover, or the door that Harry dreams of?

[aragog]

Ehh.. I think most people would agree that they are fakes. I wouldn't hold out much hope of the titles having anything to do with anything.

[bubblesofdeath88]

When JKR was thinking of naming the 4th book 'Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament' Did she register that name?

[Raven]

My jury is still out on all this. On the one hand, why would she register the trademarks so early? On the other, those sound like titles that JKR would pick.
Something that bothers me though: why isn't JKR listed as one of the Proprieters of the titles.
On the other hand, I looked up "Chamber of Secrets" and Sorcerer's stone AND Philospher's Stone (although I spelled that first word correctly). The names and addresses are the same on all of them.

Edit/Amendment: To answer Bubble's question: no, HP and the Doomspell Tournament is not a registered trademark.

But then again, neither is "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" or "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" OR "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone".
"Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" is not yet a Registered Trade Mark either, although the process has been started on it.
Seems to me that that POA should have been registered BEFORE the other titles, but that's not the case.
Something weird is going on.

[Veritaserum]

So any ideas what Book 6 is gunna be called?

I'm thinkin maybe Harry Potter and the...actually I have no idea!

Veritaserum

[caroline40]

Something to do with veil maybe?

[Steffie]

or something emphasiszing that the war is really staring now (I mean an open, gloves off kinda fight)..

[You-Know-Who]

Harry Potter and Voldemort Strikes Back, Harry Potter and the Return of Sirius, Harry Potter and The Ghostly Menace, Harry Potter and the attack of the house-elves or Harry Potter and A New Wand.

Pick one :D

[Picko]

:lol: @ YKW

Whatever the title is it'll consist of something that none of use have ever heard of before, like the five books before it.

[Llopin]

It's obvious, it should be The Return of the Wizard.

[Doggy]

Weatherby's idea sounded good enough, but You-Know-Who's was a bit give-away-ish. We've hardly ever found out anything about the books from the titles beforehand, like Picko said it almost always consists of things he haven't heard of. I guess that's why it's impossible to think of a good title until we actually read the book...

I wouldn't mind having "Harry Potter and the Return of Sirius, though. I want him to come back (as long as he doesn't come back evil).

[Geriounis Exel]

I've heard(although this may be for the 7th book) Harry Potter and the Green Torch Flame or somthing like this.

[Naya]

I also heard it has something to do with a Green Torch. But what about the veil. Maybe Harry Potter and the Whispering Veil. Or Harry Potter and the Curtain of Darkness. Maybe Harry Potter and the Veil of Death. Whatever it's called I hope it gets here soon!

[Mirkwood]

6. Harry Potter and the Green Torch Flame
7. Harry Potter and the Rooms of Mystery

[Lauren Strohfeldt]

i hears sum rumour it might be called harry potter and the green flame torch.... or maybe thats the last book

[gerroff me!]

I have inside sources that tell me the next book will be titled:

"Harry Potterer: When Harry met Voldy"

If not that maybe:

Harry Potter: Full Throttle

or

Harry Potter Reloaded

or

Harry Potter 6

Don't hold me to this, just rumors

[Dedalus]

The Green Flame torch title isn't real. It was one of the titles found copyrighted somewhere (I think ... ?), but which turned out to have not been copyrighted by J.K. Rowling, Bloomsbury or any one else except possibly someone arsing about. For all the previous books she's seemed to have officially named them while writing them, so I doubt that anything's changed for the next two books.

[Arissya_00]

I did hear it was called the Green Flame Torch, but Dedalus above says it isn't true, but, well, you never know *shrugs*

[Steffie]

There was a rumou going around that there are 2 names patented....
harry potter and the chariots of fire
harry potter and........ ( I forgot the second one... bt I'm sure tlc made a mention of it..)

I don't know if they are true...
would rather have:
Harry potter and the house-elves revolt
or
Harry potter and the foreign exchange trip (I'm really interested what's going on with the durmstrang-lot...)

[whizbang121]

Wasn't there something about pyramids, as well? But if the information isn't on the level, we back to the drawing board.

[bubblesofdeath88]

I heard something about Harry Potter and the Weight of the World,
And also Harry Potter and the Revenge of the Seen.

[MsSnape]

I wish it would be Harry Potter cheers up a bit, but that seems unlikely he's on a long dark path. Who would have thought such a cute little eleven year old would come to this?

[JofpGallagher]

Originally posted by Mirkwood (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=424871#post424871))

7. Harry Potter and the Rooms of Mystery


I like that! :bigtu:

[PrtVeela]

Harry Potter and the Fellowship of the Prophocey

lol ms snape gave me the following ideas
Harry Potter and the long dark path

Harry Potter: who would have thought it would come to this?

[EvilRaven]

Harry Potter and the padded room?

[Lee]

Didn't Warner Brothers copyright "Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat" at one point?

[Virtuousdream]

Neville longbottom and the revenge of the unforeseen.

[Cat]

It's impossible to guess or speculate on this one!

I mean, it would be difficult to have any ideas even if we knew what the story was about, which we don't.

Until we know better it is Harry Potter and the Sixth Book.
:D

[Veritaserum]

I like Harry Potter and the veil of death! Call me sadistic... I have to say though I really liked Harry Potter: Full Throttle.

I heard something about a green Flame torch or summat, when do you reckon we'll find out? When did we find out book 4 would be The Goblet of Fire?

Veritaserum

[Virtuousdream]

We found out about Goblet of Fire the day it was released, it was a big secret and as they weren't as popular, there was no big leaks this time for people wanting to spoil the book for everyone!

They released the title because they were probably so sick of my weekly emails asking them when the book would be out and what it was called, 2 years ago!

Seriously, I think they released it because people were getting restless and wanted info on the book, because it was such a long wait.

[Eruanna]

i heard that Warner or someone patented about 6 differnet titles but i dunno whether its true or not...

[ravstardeluxe]

Book 6 will be called Harry Potter and Another Year Someone Will Try To Kill Him.

And Book 7 will be Harry Potter and The Psychiatrists Room.

Seriuosly, wouldn't he need mental therapy after all he's been through. And how the hell does he always manage to get through all the work at school whilst battling this, that and the other. I go to college and can never get through any work even though it's all I have to do. Besides going to work for five hours a week.

[Capella]

WB copyrighted three titles: Harry Potter and the...

1. Pyramids of Fuhmat (or Fuhmur maybe, I can't remember)
2. Alchemist's Cell
3. Chariot's of Light.

The story goes that JKR hadn't decided which two of the three possible titles to use for Books 6 and 7 so they had to copyright all of them.
I have no idea how true this is - it was reported on BBCi (I remember reading it), but I've since heard that it was copyrighted by someone else or it was just a big false net rumor, so I dunno.
I guess we'll have to wait till JKR tells us the truth. :D

[Virtuousdream]

I don't like any of them :S

Chariots of light would be ok if it didn't remind me of chariots of fire.

[Padfoot_Uk]

well i know this is posted on mugglenet.com but ive heard many rumours about the title of book 6, the main one that keeps coming back to focus is

Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch

ive heard rumours about this since the release of Book 4. and the main reason this rumour came to light is because Scholastic (The US Publisher), Bloomsbury (The UK publisher) and Warner Bros. (The Film Producers) have all reserved domain names on the internet with this title in it. so thats why i still believe this. and this information came from the same source i had that told me the fifth book was going to be called Harry Potter and the Order Of The Phoenix just a couple of months after the release of GoF. make of it what you will!

[JustRelax!]

I had a dream about a week ago where the sixth book came out and it was called Harry Potter and the Army of Grindelwald. When I woke up, I of course realised that book 6 had not come out yet but I spent about half an hour convinced that JK Rowling had said in an interview that this would be the title! I then remembered that she hasn't actually told anyone and we had no idea - at least i thought she hadn't told anyone , i had no idea about her giving names to WB!

Thinking about it, I quite like that title actually.

[gryffindordude]

WB copyrighted the following at the UK Patent Office:

Alchemist's Cell
Pyramids of Furmat
Chariots of Light

This is for real. Warner Bros. did copyright this material. To see the page at the UK Patent office website click the link below:

http://webdb4.patent.gov.uk/tm/text

and search for "Harry Potter and the".

[Pwk2k3]

Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch is a fanfic. its not the title of the 6th book, and being that it is a fanfic, I doubt it will be called the green flame torch.

http://www.expage.com/myragreenflame

[Goalie]

Originally posted by Pwk2k3 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=428731#post428731))
Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch is a fanfic. its not the title of the 6th book, and being that it is a fanfic, I doubt it will be called the green flame torch.

http://www.expage.com/myragreenflame


The rumor about the Green Flame Torch has been around for quite a long time now, the person whom has written this fanfic has probably named his/her fanfic piece after the rumor. I'm not saying I believe its going to be called the Green Flame Torch but you never know do you :)

[Veritaserum]

I like Harry Potter and the chariots of light, if you think about it they all have that egyptian feeling, pyrimids of fumat, chariots of light, and if you think about it, alchemists cell. Maybe we'll be seeing someone go to egypt this year...

Veritaserum

[ilovedan112389]

there may be the word 'of'

Chamber OF secrets
Prisoner OF Azkaban
Goblet OF fire
Order OF the Phoenix...

[Phoenix_Fawkes]

Green toarch(SP) i know that i read that about one of the books on Mugglenet prob..... I dono if it will be the Title or not thought.. Im sure JK has it already ploted on all the books i wish i could use legimency on her lol!

[gryffindordude]

Originally posted by Veritaserum (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=429714#post429714))
I like Harry Potter and the chariots of light, if you think about it they all have that egyptian feeling, pyrimids of fumat, chariots of light, and if you think about it, alchemists cell. Maybe we'll be seeing someone go to egypt this year...


Hmmm... Doesn't Bill Weasley work in Eqypt?? :p

[harryfantotheend]

He does!

[Veritaserum]

Hey and the chariots OF light and the pyramids OF light both have OFs in them!

Veritaserum

[animagus1369]

Originally posted by gryffindordude (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=432715#post432715))
Hmmm... Doesn't Bill Weasley work in Eqypt?? :p


He used to, but in OotP it says that he transferred back to England to a desk job so he could help out the Order.

[Omi]

well here ya go! theres evena (fan made) cover!

Cover (http://www.harrypotterfans.co.za/Images/6cover.jpg)

EDIT I linked it coz it was 2 big

[Anaya]

Wow...that's some cover! :wow:

But I don't think book 6 will be called Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch. I could be wrong, of course. Yet, like Veritaserum said, both "Pyramids of Furmat" and "Chariots of Light" include the word "of." In fact, there seems to be a similar pattern with all of the book titles: Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, and now, Order of the Phoenix. Even Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone could be reworded as Stone of the Philosopher/Sorcerer. Same with "Alchemist's Cell."

The title "Chariots of Light" reminds me of the army of heliopaths (sp?) that Luna Lovegood was talking about, which she said Cornelius Fudge has. If what Luna says is true (and this is very possible), I wonder if they will be used to fight Voldemort in book 7...

[Geriounis Exel]

Harry Potter and the attack of the Lord Thingy.

Book 6: Harry Potter goes to Cancun

Book 7: Harry Potter Gone Wild

[Veritaserum]

Lol, that cover was huge. Hey and most of the Weasleys have been to Egypt!

[Picko]

I always thought the "Green Flame Torch" was a rumoured name for "Goblet of Fire". Regardless though it's a crappy name.

[Cish_hp92]

harry potter and the pyramids of furnat seems good..but weve already visited egypt with the weasleys in book 4..y put it in agn
perhaps harry potter and the ...umm.....need OF rest
or maybe harry potter and Dumbledore's Army
OR
harry potter and the afterlife
harry potter and the reservoir of the soul
harry potter and the big peahead who lost his mind while trying to destroy a bogart
harry potter and the .
heyyy i just noticed
all the books have ER sound in them
philosophER's stone
chambER of secretes
prisonER of azkaban
goblet of fiRE
ordER of the pheonix
???????any thots?

[Inkwolf]

Omi, lovely cover! (But a bit over the regulation size for attachments--If you made it, why not post it in the Gallery instead, where bigger pics are allowed?) Who's the funny-looking goob behind Harry? The new DADA?

Anyway, I had a friend use Legilimency on JKR, and you can all forget that Green Flame Torch stuff. The title of the next two books are Harry Potter and the Greying Underpants and Harry Potter and the Cockroach of Doom.

[Scarlet Tears]

Lol, "the Cockroach of Doom"! That would be terrifying, since I have a horrible fear of large bugs! And Geriounis Exel, I love the idea of "The Attack of the Lord Thingy". That part in the book made me crack up! Probably because it reminded me of one of my teachers last year...

Anyway, I can't think of anything relavent to add, except that I remember a long time ago hearing something about a Forest of Shadows or something.

Harry Potter and the Forest of Shadows...Thingy. Ok, I think I'm done now. :sorry:

[Omi]

sorry bout the size, I never realised it was so big
nah i didnt make it i found it on the net. Ill just link it coz i cant bother to resize :)

[FredRocksMySocks]

lol i don't think you'd be the only one who'd be leary to pick up a book with a bug of doom in the title! this green torch business does sound intruiging. i'll have to do some research now lol. darn you!

[aphelion]

i'm guessing that Pyramids of Furmat and Chariots of Fire are alternate names of the same book, since thye both have a egyptian theme. probably we will get to know more of Bill Weasley who used to work as a curse-breaker in Egypt.

if i'm correct then there will definitely be a Harry Potter and the Alchemists's Cell. Any ideas?

[Veritaserum]

Originally posted by Inkwolf (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=437876#post437876))
Omi, lovely cover! (But a bit over the regulation size for attachments--If you made it, why not post it in the Gallery instead, where bigger pics are allowed?) Who's the funny-looking goob behind Harry? The new DADA?

Anyway, I had a friend use Legilimency on JKR, and you can all forget that Green Flame Torch stuff. The title of the next two books are Harry Potter and the Greying Underpants and Harry Potter and the Cockroach of Doom.


Noooooooo! I'm terrified of cockroaches they make me squirm ew!

Veritaserum

[rotsiepots]

JKR usually chooses more than one name for each of her books. For example, GoF was to be called Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament and OotP also had an alternate title.

I doubt very much whether the book will end up being called "Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch" or whatever else has already been mentioned. Even if JKR was at one point going to call book six this, now that everyone knows she will, no doubt, seek an alternate title.

[Kassandra Amparo]

The next one will be called :

"Harry Potter and The Unknown Title " :D

[Muthagal]

I agree with Anaya that the Chariots of Light/heliopath connection is very interesting...and remember Harry's knife melting in the lock at the Dept. of Mysteries? Maybe this is a wepon for the OotP now that Fudge is on their side (I hope).

[Veritaserum]

Originally posted by Kassandra Amparo (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=440709#post440709))
The next one will be called :

"Harry Potter and The Unknown Title " :D


Lol, yeh it will probably be that for ages until she brings the book out, I'd really like to know what it is so I could do some speculation...

Veritaserum

[Hermione's Twin]

Harry Potter and The Alchemists Cell was patented a while back, but that could just be JKR trying to throw us off. Maybe that room in the department of mysteries is the Alchemists Cell?

[wolverine]

How about

"HARRY POTTER AND THE REVOULTION OF THE UNSPEAKABLES"

kind a like to bring back the Unspeakables to the title, as it sounds so mysterious!

[Mad-I Moody]

Harry Potter and the Valley of Forgotten Souls.

Too scary, maybe? :D I'll leave that one for Anne Rice

[inoLIKEmonkeys]

I like harry potter and the veil of death, just sounds spooky

[Godric Griffindor]

Lets all get real for a moment. Chances are slim to NONE that ANY of these titles even the registered ones will be used. Hate to be a bubble burster folks, but i don't wanna see people splitting their heads over something you can't really predict.

[miscreant1105]

I think that perhaps those names were copyrighted to throw people off. Or that could just me and my paranoid self.

[Godric Griffindor]

Originally posted by miscreant1105 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=463864#post463864))
I think that perhaps those names were copyrighted to throw people off.


:) I support this post.

[AvadaKedavra]

What about this? Harry Potter and the Second War?

[Leah_Jones]

ive no idea about book 6, but i have a good one for book7:
Harry Potter and the Final Battle
as in..referring to his final battle with Voldemort, where one of them dies.

[Cygnus]

:evil: i would like these titles

Harry Potter and the Curse of Giza
Harry Potter and the Phial of Death
Harry Potter and the Scales of Light
Harry Potter and the Dagger of War
Harry Potter and the Twelfth Door

Harry Potter and the Smotheration by a Baby Killer Whale
Harry Potter and the Demise of Duddikins
Harry Potter and the Hollywood Blockbuster
Harry Potter and the Misconvieved Notions of Crookshanks Being Miss Figg
Harry Potter and the Writer's Block:elaugh:

(btw - the first five are real one, not jokes:rolleyes: )

[firebolt2000]

I always liked the idea of the Green Flame Torch, because supposedly it is a green flame that destroys all evil and negativity, and Harry could use that to kill Voldemort, instead of ever having to learn the Unforgivable Curses, which I don't want him to do.

[Bilbo]

Originally posted by Capella (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=427697#post427697))
WB copyrighted three titles: Harry Potter and the...

1. Pyramids of Fuhmat (or Fuhmur maybe, I can't remember)
2. Alchemist's Cell
3. Chariot's of Light.

The story goes that JKR hadn't decided which two of the three possible titles to use for Books 6 and 7 so they had to copyright all of them.
I have no idea how true this is - it was reported on BBCi (I remember reading it), but I've since heard that it was copyrighted by someone else or it was just a big false net rumor, so I dunno.
I guess we'll have to wait till JKR tells us the truth. :D


This was also run in Entertainment Weekly. I'm not sure if that adds or takes away credibility.

[adonaichild]

LOL! Harry Potter strikes back...I'm not sure about that one! But the Alchemists Cell sounds kind of credible.

[MagiCils]

But what's the point in copyrighting them now? It's not like anyone's going to go "oh, Pyramids of Fuhmat", bound to be, I'll nick the copyright myself", is it?!

[sindatur]

I really like the twelfth Door title. Second War, and it's Book 6. 12 comes up over and over again in the series (part of the core mystery no ones guessed at), plus the door in the DoM that's always locked. No "of" in the title though. Maybe "HP and the Mystery of the 12th Door"?

[McKinnon02]

I like Harry Potter and the Torch of Light. :)

[Omi]

I dont think JK will break the trend of having someting we never heard of before, Although some of those sound likely, i REALLY doubt they will be used unless JK surfs forums to find titles. And (No offense) all the ones with Veil and second war all ruin the trend of the titles (hmm not bad :) ? ) and ar way too predictable

[TheTrio]

I'm not sure of Harry Potter: Full Throttle....
doesn't that sound too much like Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle?

I was thinking more along the lines of
Harry Potter and the Secret of Death

or

Harry Potter and the Squib
(Aunt Petunia)

or

Harry Potter and the Joining Forces

[Mad-I Moody]

Originally posted by Godric Griffindor (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=463850#post463850))
Lets all get real for a moment. Chances are slim to NONE that ANY of these titles even the registered ones will be used. Hate to be a bubble burster folks, but i don't wanna see people splitting their heads over something you can't really predict.


A valid point, yes. However, it is pretty fun to think up different names -- even when we know there is no chance that we'll get it right. And I think some people have come up with some pretty good name, anyway. We need ways to pass the time until more information is released...so keep coming up with names! :clappy: Wouldn't it be funny if someone got pretty close to the real title????

[leenielou]

Thinkin that I very much like the ring of Harry Potter Does Dallas

[conioguy]

Harry Potter and the Book of Death?

[harp230]

My post from another thread.....



quote:
Originally posted by Mimbulus (original post)
Harry Potter and the Drinking Party...



Could that be a possible title for the next book??? Let's start a thread...

Personally, I think this book was testing the waters or a gradual lead in. I am think this is not the last of the issue...

[DoctorWho]

JKR gave...and all the mysteries in book 5...

The silver instrument on Dumbledores desk...

The power more wonderful and more terrible than death that Harry possesses...and is hidden behind the door that wouldn't open...

The unfriendly forest full of degruntled centaurs...one giant...Aragog and kin...and the Weasleys blue auto still roaming around...that would be great place for V/DEs/dementors to hide out...

The year of the NEWTS for H/R/H...

Does DA become larger...will they be recruiting and looking for a few good young wizards to join up...

AND of course as the centaurs predicted...the next great war is about to begin again...how will it start...

FROM all this you could come up with some great titles...

[Veritaserum]

Originally posted by Godric Griffindor (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=463850#post463850))
Lets all get real for a moment. Chances are slim to NONE that ANY of these titles even the registered ones will be used. Hate to be a bubble burster folks, but i don't wanna see people splitting their heads over something you can't really predict.


There is nothing wrong with healthy speculation! Oh and yes, what's that about getting real, we are discussing Harry Potter, a non-real thing, I assumed that was why most people were here, so they can be not-real if you catch ma drift!?!

I like the idea of the alchemist's cell being the room in the DoM, and DoctorWho, what is that silver instrument Dumbledore uses?

Veritaserum

[Pigwidgeon]

Originally posted by leenielou (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=474235#post474235))
Thinkin that I very much like the ring of Harry Potter Does Dallas


Eeeeheeeheeee!!!:rotfl: Too bad she said Harry won't be traveling to America(I think) or that could likely be the real title.

[jerb]

I have to be silly here, so please excuse me.

Harry Potter and the Bad Rap Songs
Harry Potter and the Crazy Bad People
Harry Potter and the Thing That Does Something
Harry Potter and the Fake Copyrighted Title

[Bilbo]

Originally posted by MagiCils (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=465965#post465965))
But what's the point in copyrighting them now? It's not like anyone's going to go "oh, Pyramids of Fuhmat", bound to be, I'll nick the copyright myself", is it?!



WB registered the titles as poperty of WB---I'm not sure why, either becase they are extremely protective or as red herrings.

[DarkRa]

History may give the soloution:
After PS/SS she wrote Chamber of Secrets, while we hadn't the slightest idea what's this.
After CoS she wrote Prisoner of Azkaban, and we had a general idea because Azkaban prison was mentioned in the previous book.
After PoA she wrote Goblet of Fire and we had no clue what's that.
After GoF she wrote Order of the Phoenix and it wasn't long after we learned the title that we understood that the Order was an anti-Voltemort organisation.

So, the conclusion is that, if there is indeed a patern, we won't have a clue about the title of book 6.

By the way, I liked Harry Potter and the 12th Door. It's so misterious....

[marrapessa]

Harry Potter and Hogwarts, a History

personally if I were him I'd've read the dang thing already!

[Evan Rosier]

Is there anyone in the world who can tell me who originally posted the title of Book 6 as "Harry Potter and The Green Flame Torch" ?

[Master Dragonfly]

No, Evan Rosier, there probably isn't. My guess is that it's been around for a long time...wasn't it originally rumored to be book 5's title?


Harry Potter and the Gateway to Doom (where Sirius went)
Harry Potter and the Mystery of the 12th Door (the door with ??? inside)
Harry Potter and the Chariots of Light (Another "weapon")
Harry Potter and the War of the Wizards (the second war begins)
Harry Potter and the Reality of Hatred (the second war begins)
Harry Potter and the Return of the Thing (as in "Lord Thingy")
Harry Potter and the Light of Death (Avada Kedavra)
Harry Potter and the Fortress of Shadows (Hogwarts gets taken over by dementors)
Harry Potter and the Masters of Magic (foreign "Dumbledores"?)
Harry Potter and the Chain of Pain (the connection between Harry and Voldie)
Harry Potter and the Path of the Chosen One (Harry/Neville's path?)
Harry Potter and the Entrance to the Afterlife (alternate "where Sirius went")

And for book seven:
Harry Potter and the Lies of the Past (Trelawney's "prophecy")
Harry Potter and the Law of the New World (???)
Harry Potter and the Cry of the Planet (I stole that from FF7)
Harry Potter and the Wizard of Infinite Power (go Neville!)
Harry Potter and the Thief of Life (Avada Kedavra)

Well, there are my ideas.

[mel]

Harry Potter and the Revenge of the Cornish Pixies
Harry Potter and Aberforth's Goat
Harry Potter presents... the Number 12
Harry Potter and the Hairy Pot

[Taichi]

Two titles that WERE copyrighted, but probably just to throw off those looking to get a scoop of the 5th books title were:

Harry Potter and the Alchemist's Cell
Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat

both were copyrighted by Warner Bros., so they are more 'official' than something stupid like "The Green Flame Torch"

which, IMHO is the dumbest title I've EVER heard of.....

[eXistenZ]

My guess would be: Harry Potter the boy who recived 8 trolls in his OWL exams

[vickygirl4]

Oh, eXistenZ, that's mean! Harry's not dumb!

I think Harry Potter and the Alchemist's cell sounds so cool! There's a thread somewhere describing the importance of alchemy in the books, and that would tie in nicely!

In the very beginning of this thread, someone (sorry can't remember who) said that the title would be something we've never heard of before like the other five books, and although this is probably true, not all of the previous books were named after things that JKR created. The philosopher's stone has been around for a long time.

[Rosie B.]

Harry Potter and the Twelve Reasons Why The Fans Will Never Be Able To Figure Out Rowling.

[TheTrio]

Harry Potter and the Path of the Chosen One (Harry/Neville's path?)

I like your ideas, Master dragonfly!!!

[TheTrio]

Harry Potter and the Twelve Reasons Why The Fans Will Never Be Able To Figure Out Rowling.

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:



Rosie B., you crack me up!!!

[innocentSirius]

i think it may be something like "Harry Potter and the Veil of Death" as mentioned before...but i was thinking something like Harry Potter and the Black Veil...you know, sort of like a hint there'll be information on the reasoning behind Sirius's death...

[AvadaKedavra]

Harry Potter and the Second War
Harry Potter and the Eye of Death
Harry Potter and the Twin Snakes
Harry Potter and the Flight of Death

[innocentSirius]

I'm not sure of Harry Potter: Full Throttle....
doesn't that sound too much like Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle?

I was thinking more along the lines of
Harry Potter and the Secret of Death

or

Harry Potter and the Squib
(Aunt Petunia)

or

Harry Potter and the Joining Forces


um...yea...you DO realize that was a joke right? it was making fun of the names of sequels now-a-days...didn't you pick that up??

[Veritaserum]

lol, Master Dragonfly, you really put a lot of thought into this eh!? Nah, I like the Chariots of Light, it makes me feel hopeful (don't ask why!)

Veritaserum

[Eternal_legolas]

Im pretty sure I heard Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch

[Mrs. Biggerstaff]

I have inside sources that tell me the next book will be titled:

"Harry Potterer: When Harry met Voldy"

If not that maybe:

Harry Potter: Full Throttle

or

Harry Potter Reloaded

or

Harry Potter 6

Don't hold me to this, just rumors

HA i like ur ideas very, i think Harry potter and book 6 id i name that we should definalty consider! i dunno why but u really made me laugh why i dunno (duh it was funny) (srry i talk to myslef a lot)

[humayun]

harry potter and the rising threat

[Veritaserum]

Im pretty sure I heard Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch

Yeh I dunno where this came from, I think someone said it started off as a fanfic and somehow ended up as one of the things people would be the Book 6 title :eyebrows:

Veritaserum

[phoenixfan]

how bout this:

harry potter and the Return of Darkness

or

harry potter and the Unforseen Passing

or

harry potter and the Mystery of the Prophecy

I really have no idea what JKR is gonna possibly do for the 6th one.... but if its anything like the first 5 :D i cant wait

oh by the way :tu: on the Order of the Phoenix :clap:

[Mrs. Biggerstaff]

harry potter and the life of a toenail

[Mad Eye Mike]

I think Book 6 should be called:

Harry Potter and the Little :censored: Better Wake Up and Realize Hermione Loves Him Before Some Other Guy Comes Along, Shows Her the Appreciation She Deserves and Steals Her Away.


Hmm...was that too long?

[Siriusly]

The Woes of Harry Potter

Harry Potter Takes Manhatten

Harry Potter and the Snivelling Potions Teacher

[Mad I]

I like Harry Potter and the Second War and Harry Potter and the Risinig Threat because they both convey the coming deaths in Book 6.

[Fortescue]

Harry Potter and the Never Ending Title Recycling Plant...

hehe, by the way, I have a question that isn't worth starting an entire thread: Is my memory faulty or was there a rumor that said Book 4 was going to be called Order of the Phoenix before it was released? I remember hearing something about a phoenix in the title, and it was before book 4...

[Jarred]

On Kazaa, I have seen many fake books entitled Harry Potter and the Time of Good Intentions. That's a pretty dull title compared to the ones so far, though.

[purplehawk]

Harry Potter and the Changing of the Guard

Harry Potter and the Passing of the ______________

Harry Potter and the Veil of Darkness

Harry Potter and the Prophecy of ____________

**Just playing around**

[AvadaKedavra]

Harry Potter and the most anticipated book ever which is making millions of people ruminate over the title and guess stupidly at what it might be even though each knows that they've got a snowball's chance in hell of getting it right

Hey, that must be the one!

[HarryLass]

How about:

Harrry Potter and the Random Magical Object/Place that we've never heard about of magical magical power

Hermione Granger and the E.P.T OF DOOM

Neville and Snape in his grandmother's hat OF DOOM

The scariest of all-

Snape and the wonders of acting in the Rocky Horror Picture Show

These are jokes, in case you can't tell.

[Mad I]

"a snowball's chance in hell"
I like that!!

[Fortescue]

Neville Longbottom and the Impersonating Hero

[Bilbo]

:rotfl: Great titles everyone. Of course, Mrs. Rowling will surprise us all with her title and talent.

[inoLIKEmonkeys]

how bout harry potter and the chamber of death

[Hpmons]

Harry Potter and the Big Squishy Dragon.
Harry Potter and the "Snape: Good or Evil" debate
Harry Potter and the Champagne Bath Mystery
Harry Potter and the ramdom sticky thing found at the back of the refridgerator

Erm...Seriously...

Porbably an item/place/group/person we have never heard of before now, like with all all the other books. Possibly to do with the war, or the veil, or the Power, or Aberforths goat, or Sean Biggerstaff wearing nothing but a whipped cream teddy...

Or not.

[the 5th Marauder]

I think JKR will produce something totally newwww! I think WB patented the titles to throw us off the scent... hmmm

[Popkin]

Book 6 will be called Harry Potter and Another Year Someone Will Try To Kill Him.

And Book 7 will be Harry Potter and The Psychiatrists Room.

Those are great titles, revstardeluxe!

[Popkin]

Harry and the Secret Order of the Chamber Pots of Azkaban

The first paragraph predistribution teaser could go something like this:

“Quiet, Hedwig. I’m trying to concentrate,” a young man with unusually untidy black hair whispered to a snowy owl twittering concernedly in its cage. Moments before, he had awoken with a start, clutching at the lightning shaped scar on his forehead. What had caused it to burn so painfully? He closed his eyes tightly, allowing the images of his dream to come into clearer focus. Had it been a dream? It seemed so real. He had seen a telephone receiver clasped in a long fingered hand, and heard a high cold voice saying, “Yesss, send me three of your latest model, in fucia, lilac and puce. Self flushing. Right.” A sudden sound of scurrying feet apparently startled the speaker, and it hissed, “Someone’s coming! I’ll call you back! G’bye.”

What do you think?

Popkin

[Hpmons]

Ok; Ill try to get this thread back onto a normal sanity level...

Well, as we have discovered, all of the titles so far, would not have been guessable by reading the other books (in PS, we had never heard about the CoS; in CoS we had never heard about the PoA...)

Therefore, this pattern will continue. And so we have no clue what it could be called.
Another thing to mention, is that nothing is guessable by the title.
PS/SS - The English version may make some sense if you knew about Alchemy, but no sense if you bought the American version.
CoS - Its a chamber. Its got secrets in it.
PoA - Theres a prisoner from a wizarding prison.
GoF - Its a goblet. It made out of/contains/can contain fire.
OotP - It an Order made by Fawkes/Something about a list of immortality/a group of wizards (Ok, some people did guess this one...)

Also, it always starts:
Harry Potter and the
and follows with a noun (well if it was followed by anything else it wouldnt be proper English!). My guess is that the sixth book will be an object.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

Anyone heard of HP and the Fortress or Forest of Shadows? If it's Forest, that could be the Forbidden Forest. And that would make a little sense - we know centaurs, giants, and other creatures are going ot play a role when they pick sides.

[ninakix]

did anyone see that yesterday a company called "Seabottom Productions Limited" patented two titles (at least) - Harry Potter and the Mudblood Revolt and Harry Potter and the Quest of the Centaur. Anyone know what, exactly, the company does?
also, about the green flame torch and the pyramids of furmat...
The pyramids of furmat. it IS related to egypt, and isnt "furmat" relating to fire? i couldn't find it on dictionary.com, but it darn well sounds like it.
theres supposed to be a legend about a green flame torch being used by the death god osiris (represented by the star sirius in the dog constellation)

"JKR has stated that no one, including her, knows the titles to even the 6th and 7th books."
but ive also heard that JKR has the whole thing planned out and roughly knows the titles of all the books. doesnt this.... doesnt this to anyone, sound suspicious? she seems to be crossing herself a lot.
"They have claimed that someone in America started the rumors in early 2002, along with the false titles. That person then sent the titles to WB, who posted them on their web site."
i dont think that WB would've gone and posted 'em on their website just like that, without getting confirmation from JKR first. maybe someone close to JK sent them in, which caused them to believe it... and then.... maybe they really are shedding light on something.

[ninakix]

also... i found this on an egyptian mythology website:

Feather of Maat

Represents truth, justice, morality and balance. It was pharaoh's job to uphold Maat. When a pharaoh died, Maat was lost and the world was flung into chaos, only the coronation of a new pharaoh could restore Maat.



Maat

Represents truth, justice, morality and balance. Deities are often seen standing on this symbol, as if standing on a foundation of Maat.

could this have to do with "furmat" ?

[HarryLass]

Another bit about the Feather of Maat, ninakix, is that when someone died, they were asked about the morality of their life. Then their heart was weighed against the feather and, if they lied, the heart would weigh more than the feather and would then be eaten by a croc-hippo. Hmmmmm...

[ninakix]

Huh. "The mortality of their life." What is that supposed to mean?
Osiris is the Death God and supposed to... "test" people in a way, or so I've read. I never really bothered to read that test though. Maybe it has to do with the Feather of Maat

[HarryLass]

Osiris is the Death God and supposed to... "test" people in a way, or so I've read. I never really bothered to read that test though. Maybe it has to do with the Feather of Maat

I just described that test, in case you didn't notice. Sorry, I'm getting huffy.

[IchLiebeSirus]

Harry Potter and something that one give the stroy away i say and the i dunno i want something new to know about

[ninakix]

I just described that test, in case you didn't notice. Sorry, I'm getting huffy.
oh. haha. i wasnt completey sure that that was the exact test.... ....then i wonder how they connect. i think they've got to connect then, huh? what do you think parvati?

[HarryLass]

what do you think parvati?

Hmmm... Perhaps Harry is the bringer of order, and some croc-hippo will devour the liar Voldemort?

Well, I can dream, can't I?

[ninakix]

haha. in the osiris legend... osiris has a son, horus, who is supposed to avenge his fathers death... osiris was killed by his brother, seth. legend goes that after horus kills seth, osiris will come back and rule the world with him.

so uhh... harry kills bellatrix and voldemort, then sirius emerges from the veil, and he and sirius become co-presidents of the MoM?
not quite believable to me... but maybe parts of it could work. ;)

[Liselle]

I was just browsing the net when I came across this little snippet of info

Breaking News: Two New Trademarks Registered in UK

The UK Patent Office records reflect two "New Applications" for Harry Potter related trademarks.

"Harry Potter and the Mudblood Revolt" and "Harry Potter and the Quest of the Centaur" are two trademarks that were applied for on July 24, 2003 by "Seabottom Productions Limited."

These are most likely NOT TITLES for the next two Harry Potter books, but it is interesting nevertheless to note that these titles have been applied for as trademarks in the United Kingdom. These are different from the previous titles that were registered by Warner Bros. and widely rumored to be future names of books (later reported false).

Mybe this is not the most correct place for this announcement but I thought that it may stimulate some discussion on future titles and theories based on them......there may be more to them than meets the eye......

Liselle

[RedCape]

Just who is Seabottom Productions Limited? Did the article not say?

[Liselle]

nope

[insaneone]

Just who is Seabottom Productions Limited? Did the article not say?

Well, they have no hit on Google, and every selfrespecting company would have a website.
So my guess is that Seabottom Productions is a fake name used by Warner Bross so they could register the titles a bit more secertly.

Since they were applied a month ago, and we hear from it now, i guess they did it quite well(almost everybody is busy speculating and looking for clues about book 6).

[Liselle]

hmm quite a possibility there, I should hop over to google and check!!

[Liselle]

just ran a google search and can't find seabottom productions limited there at all

[karlzen]

They sure are interesting titles, both referring to the oppression of different groups of people in the wizarding world. Much like the fountain in OotP.

I think they're very unlikely as titles as they're awful and doesn't fit at all. Maybe Seabottom is just a little company that wanted to get some publicity this strange way? Anyway, Warner Bros and others seem to love registering trademarks and patents, they do it all the time.

[sindatur]

I'm wondering, could it be an attempt to head off one of those "Foreign Phonies" that may be about to surface?

Or perhaps, someone trademarking for the purpose of creating a "Foreign Phony"?

[jmk623]

The titles just don't "feel right" to me. Somehow all the titles of HP sound so......so "grand" to me. But Mudblood Revolt? I don't think JKR would put the word 'Mudblood' in one of her titles. Really, 'the Green Flame Torch' seems more likely than that title.

It's clearly rumor, as far as I think.

[insaneone]

I'm not a trademark/patent expert, but isn't the name Harry Potter also trademarketed by Warner Bross.
So if someone used these titels to get attention they would be breaking the law right?
Not a smart thing if you're a starting company.

[Rien]

Yeah I definitely cannot see a HP book with "Mudblood" on the cover. Or a Quest of any kind... eh.

[sindatur]

Actually I can see "Quest" in an HP title, but "Mudblood" certainly feels wrong.

Insaneone, excellent point. If it was done in a Foreign country, it's possible that could work with my theory that they revolve around phony HP books, and it was believed it could slip through the cracks on a technicality.

[karlzen]

Why register the titles so early when they don't have to?

Applying for registration for a title with Harry Potter in it can't be illegal, they won't get it registred anyway.

[Rien]

Well, Quest just sounded pretty cheesy to me. But then... so does Goblet of Fire, so there you go.

The foreign rip-offs idea is good though; that's more likely than the real deal, I think...

[Dedalus]

I think they're very obviously fake. I mean, they're just ... unrelated? Why would Mudbloods revolt in the next book? Nothing has lead up to that. It's just a very random idea. And the quest of a centaur might be a very good thing, except that Harry has enough on his plate in the last year without going on another quest too. They're a bit daft.

And aren't they a little obvious titles? Wouldn't they just say what's going to happen, which is stupid since the previous books have done no such thing?

I know I don't know what's going to happen but they just sound so fake and tacky, like they're made up by someone who hasn't even read the books. They just sound like names someone's made up after watching the first two films and seeing centaurs and hearing about Mudbloods, and making assumptions without actually reading the last books, if any of them.

[Liselle]

mudblood seems unlikely alright but it could happen if there is more of the pure-blooded nonsensce sprouted by Malfoy and many of the other slytherins..... could just be publicity stunt anyway, I just thought that I would bring it to every ones attention!

Liselle

[Aberforth D]

Maybe they're future titles for a Harry Potter theme-park ride... there has been a lot of speculation about Disney and stuff like that, maybe they are trademarking the ride's name... that could also be one of those 3 titles WB trademarked (green flame torch, etc)

[sindatur]

Ooh, Aberforth, excellent idea. I totally forgot about all that hoopla surrounding the Amusement Park rides. And they said your brother was the wise one ;)

[Liselle]

possiblilty Aberforth D........ or just to throw us off the scent.....

[phoenix_gurl]

~~~ yea i agree with Liselle. The Titles don't seem like the kind of titles that JKR would use. It could possibly relate to the theme park rides, or to throw us in the wrong direction. It's very unilely that they might have clues, but who knows. MaYbe we should think a little more about how the muggle-borns are going to be treated in coming books, and the importance of the centaurs. ~~~

[_BT_]

Well, they have no hit on Google, and every selfrespecting company would have a website.
So my guess is that Seabottom Productions is a fake name used by Warner Bross so they could register the titles a bit more secertly.

Since they were applied a month ago, and we hear from it now, i guess they did it quite well(almost everybody is busy speculating and looking for clues about book 6).

excellent idea. it certainly explains who "seabottom productions" is. my bets are on warner bros. seems the ruse worked actually... it took a month for this to leak out.

question is... why is warner bros trademarking these two titles? the amusement park rides idea is a good one... but why else would they put a trademark on these particular titles?

[Cat]

1) They don't have half the finesse of the book titles we have.

2) They leave nothing to the imagination and don't seem to make any sense. 'Mudblood' is supposed to be a derogatory wizard term and I can't work out why the last book, the grand finale, Harry's big moment, would be given a dull name about centaurs.

3) I could be wrong, but aren't book titles copyrighted, not trademarked? I thought brands and companies were trademarked.

4) Who the hell is Seabottom Productions Limited? They don't seem to exist.

[Rien]

They do it because they know we're clamoring for information on a book that won't be released for at least a year, and they're sadistic little people who like to watch us go crazy trying to figure out little things like this. Yes, I'm sure that's why... :)

[_BT_]

1) They don't have half the finesse of the book titles we have.

2) They leave nothing to the imagination and don't seem to make any sense. 'Mudblood' is supposed to be a derogatory wizard term and I can't work out why the last book, the grand finale, Harry's big moment, would be given a dull name about centaurs.

3) I could be wrong, but aren't book titles copyrighted, not trademarked? I thought brands and companies were trademarked.

4) Who the hell is Seabottom Productions Limited? They don't seem to exist.

have to agree with you that these titles aren't all that great. they aren't horrible, but i seriously doubt jkr would put mudblood in a title. plus i agree that the neither title really sounds epic enough for the last book. to answer your 3, i think you're probably right.. but trademark was the term used in the article i suppose.. about your 4; i agree with insaneone that seabottom productions is probably a fake name warner bros is using (or perhaps it IS real and is a new offshoot of warner bros) :huh:

[Cat]

I think it's more likely to be a fake name some random fraud is using.

[GryffindorSeeker]

First off, isn't there already a thread on the title for books six?
Second, these titles don't sound like they would actually be the Harry Potter book six title and I'm not going to believe anything until Jo actually says anything, or scholastic releases anything, so until then, I wouldn't count on it.

[sindatur]

I am inclined to agree that it's bogus. I put in Seabottom Ltd on Microsoft Search and came up with what looks like a German Website with a list of Movies or Books, couldn't tell for sure though, as I couldn't understand the language. Anyone understand Geman or German looking languages well enough to check it out?

http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~clembur/prialit.htm

[Hazelnutt1230]

I think that those titles are fakes because JKR doesnt give out her titles until the books are ready to be published. She said that she is very superstitious about her titles and the fact that no one seems to know anything about seabottom productions and that no one can find anything on them, it is likely that they are just some random rumor.

[sindatur]

Hazelnutt, I'm not sure about Random Rumor, there's certainly gotta be some truth behind the fact that someone did indeed copywrite/trademark, whatever those titles, because that was reported on in a couple of different legitimate sources, wasn't it?

[Dedalus]

Cat made a very good observation, actually. I never even noticed - it says "trademark", not "copyright". If it was the book titles then it would be copyrighted. WB owns the trademark, but don't own the copyright of the books, which I guess would include the future book titles.

But I repeat that they sound really daft. Whatever they're for, even if just a joke, they should have done their research and made them sound a little more Harry Potter-ish than that. They sound obvious and not really like the previous titles at all.

[zandarella]

I think it is very early for WB to be copyrighting titles, although I have no doubt they would do so under a proxy company name. The best way to keep it secret is just not to copyright until the very last moment before the book goes to print. Let's face it JK is a genius and nobody would just randomly guess the title would they? Would they!!?

[Houler_7S]

Then why somebody would have a trademark like that

[rotsiepots]

I think they're very obviously fake. I mean, they're just ... unrelated? Why would Mudbloods revolt in the next book? Nothing has lead up to that. It's just a very random idea. And the quest of a centaur might be a very good thing, except that Harry has enough on his plate in the last year without going on another quest too. They're a bit daft.

And aren't they a little obvious titles? Wouldn't they just say what's going to happen, which is stupid since the previous books have done no such thing?

I know I don't know what's going to happen but they just sound so fake and tacky, like they're made up by someone who hasn't even read the books. They just sound like names someone's made up after watching the first two films and seeing centaurs and hearing about Mudbloods, and making assumptions without actually reading the last books, if any of them.

Exactly, Dedalus. You are so wise. ;)

What on earth do Mudbloods have to revolt against anyway? Maybe those exploding toilets finally cause a few of them to crack, but really...an organised rebellion? Somehow I doubt it.

I think my sentiments towards these "new" titles can be summarised perfectly with this smiley: :rolleyes:.

[Hpmons]

They are definatly fake (I believe)

A) Well, as we have discovered, all of the titles so far, would NOT have been guessable by reading the other books (in PS, we had never heard about the CoS; in CoS we had never heard about the PoA...)

B) Seabottom productions have no website, nor is there "Mudblood Revolt" or "Quest of the Centaur" (nothing to do with Harry Potter).

C) They don't sound magical or interesting, and by just telling us the title, we already know the plot.

[Aeglos]

I looked up Seabottom productions on the companies house web site (www.companieshouse.gov.uk)and they are registered at 35 vine St, London.
But there is another company that lives at 35 vine St. Field fisher waterhouse (http://www.ffwlaw.com). They are a legal firm which dose work for Bloomsbury, the UK HP publisher, as shown on this page(http://www.ffwlaw.com/Sectors/Publishing.aspx).

Don't know what this means though.

[Ronald Weasley]

I've heard(although this may be for the 7th book) Harry Potter and the Green Torch Flame or somthing like this.

I have heard Harry Potter and the Green Flame or something of the sort but its just rumours....
I agree with Naya. It could be something that has to do with the veil but then again that would ruin her pattern of having titles that we dont know what it's about untill we actually read the book.

Maybe it will be something called, "Harry Potter and the Second War" or something cause of the last chapter in OotP

I cant wait till it comes out though! Does anyone know when it will come out? I heard next fall (or sooner i hope!!!)

[schwarzendrache]

I am inclined to agree that it's bogus. I put in Seabottom Ltd on Microsoft Search and came up with what looks like a German Website with a list of Movies or Books, couldn't tell for sure though, as I couldn't understand the language. Anyone understand Geman or German looking languages well enough to check it out?

http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~clembur/prialit.htm

The page you're referencing is something about Christian Lemburg's references on the study of Halicryptus spinulosus (Priapulida), a kind of marine organism. The guy Lemburg is a zoologist.
The only place mentioning "seabottom" on that page is here:

Petersen, C. G. J. (1914): Valuation of the sea. II. The animal communities of the seabottom and their importance for marine zoogeography. (Appendix). Report danish biol. Stat. 21, 1-68.

Which isn't remotely related to Harry Potter.

[LightningTuna]

Urrrrgh....my friend spent the best part of Monday telling me that the last book was called "Scar", it had been on an official site, and JK had confirmed it. Then he got stroppy when I would'nt believe him. I don't think anyone really knows the name yet, except for JK, but Green Flame Torch seems to be a favourite.

[schwarzendrache]

I believe JK personally denied the "green flame torch" title. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

[jkahn]

No, it's going to be something COMPLETELY different. Probably a new weapon or race will be implicated. Something like,

Harry Potter and the Thestrals' Song or
Harry Potter and the Seven Stars or
Harry Potter and the Second War (obvious but good) or
Harry Potter and the Armies of Truth or
Harry Potter and the New Beginning (I like this better for the 7th) or
Harry Potter and the Alliance of Schools or
Harry Potter and the Unseen Prophecy or
Harry Potter and the Goblin Revolt

Those are some of mine, not great, but it's what we can expect.

[Houler_7S]

I think the Green Flame torch

[jkahn]

Sorcerer's Stone = Goblet of Fire (artifacts)
Chamber of Secrets = Order of the Phoenix (clubs or secret places)
Prisoner of Azkaban = ??? Person.

We are looking for some new person, someone out of the blue but perhaps slightly familiar. Susan Bones, Aberforth Dumbledore, Sturgis Podmore, or the Grey Lady are long shots. It'll probably a random witch or wizard, just like Sirius.

[Bee]

I don't think any of those three titles are very good. They seem like they'd bring a rather dull story. But, we could be surprised... I just don't see how JKR can spring a new storyline on us. There are SO MANY unanswered questions and it seems impossible that JKR will be able to answer them all if she starts a brand new adventure, ya know what I mean?

[Diya]

well! i have noticed that harry potter always in every yr fiind something new..
so maybe he will find something new..

[Narami]

It will be Harry Potter and the Green Torch
Harry Potter y la Antorcha Verde.

[PeterDB]

The Green Flame Torch idea has been floating around for an awfully long time, people said it would be the title for book 5 too. There is another floating around too that I can't remember. I'd put a large amount of money on that not being the title of any HP books.

None of the books are going to be called that, it is too similiar to the Goblet Of Fire title.

[tyro]

wouldn't it be wierd if Book 7 was just called:-

Harry Potter

dont you think? I mean, how mysterious is that, it would make you SOOO inquisitive, like in the M.O.M elevator it just says "Department of Mysteries".

As for Book 6, theres that new one Harry Potter and the Quest of the Centaur, or something. Something to do with a quest seems quite cool. How about nabbing something (for a change ;-) ) from LOTR
Harry Potter and the Last Alliance.
Harry Potter and the Eternal Quest


hehe, it really is so hard to think of titles.