Uniforms in the films

[Fee]

Sorry if this has already been brought up.

You know when you see a film and certain things stick out to you? Well, the other day I was watching Harry and the Philosophers stone when I noticed that all of the kids have their house badge sewn onto their cloaks, but how could the first years have bought the cloaks with the right house on them if they don't know which house they'll be in? Unless they take sew it on themselves...

[JustRelax!]

It's probably one of the thousands of mistakes that the filmmakers made with the films...

It's probably different in the books, i don't think they wear badges in the books.

[NeedAM!nT]

I think there is a thread about this in the Common Room... I'm not quite sure.

[AccioBrain]

The robes worn by first years in Philosophers Stone didn't have badges before the sorting ceremony and the ties just had the generic Hogwarts logo.

[Hermione Cosplayer]

Take another look at the first year's dorm right after they go to bed for the first time. The chair by each bed has their new uniform.

[dark_fortress]

Hi to all! I'm just new here.... I saw a picture of Hemione at age 16, who is that lady anyway?

[Jessie]

True - before the sorting ceremony, the First Years don't have their house badges yet, and their ties aren't the house ones. They get their new uniforms in their dorms the first night after the ceremony. :)

[tabby]

It's probably different in the books, i don't think they wear badges in the books.

Nope, they don't.

In CoS when Ron and Harry are looking for the Slytherin common room (after taking the polyjuice potion) they stop a Ravenclaw student, mistaking her for a Slytherin and proceed to insult her by asking the way to the common room.

Had her house been shown on her uniform as it had been in the movie, that wouldn't have happened.

The house uniforms are a movie thing.

[go_anna40]

Yeah, I agree with tabby.
The house uniforms are probably a movie thing.
It's just one of those things where it doesn't seem so right...you know...imperfections.

[Koki]

The badges are probably changed magiclly you know? Like after they are sorted. but yeah I don't think that they have badges in the books, and I also don't thik that they were ties and etc. for their uniform I also thought they wore what they wanted then all they had to do was put on a black robe :)
In the movies they never have regular clothes on..when they go to hogsmeade do they get to wear what they want..I hope

[Flobberworm]

Right when they get to Hogwarts their robes have the Hogwarts crest on them, and so do their ties. Once they get to their dorms you can see that the Gryffindor ties, scarves, and robes are laid out on their nightstand. :)

[Alcina]

The uniforms in the films are absolute rubbish anyway! The books make it quite clear that robes are stand alone garments, not worn with any shirts, ties etc. The list sent with Harry's Hogwarts letter makes no mention of other uniform, just robes.

Robes in the HP reality are dress-like garments closed at the front,as is made quite clear by a number of passages where it is stated that to put them on you pull them over your heads

For some reason the film decided to make them like gowns, which are worn at some British public schools (at least by prefects) and were once worn by undergrads at Oxford and Cambridge (sadly no longer compulsory). But that isn't what the books say.

[vagos]

The uniforms in the films are absolute rubbish anyway! The books make it quite clear that robes are stand alone garments, not worn with any shirts, ties etc. The list sent with Harry's Hogwarts letter makes no mention of other uniform, just robes.

Robes in the HP reality are dress-like garments closed at the front,as is made quite clear by a number of passages where it is stated that to put them on you pull them over your heads

For some reason the film decided to make them like gowns, which are worn at some British public schools (at least by prefects) and were once worn by undergrads at Oxford and Cambridge (sadly no longer compulsory). But that isn't what the books say.
i agree..how is archie supposed to have a healthy breeze in his privates if he is wearing trousers anyway?or snape's pants in worst memory...
what they wear in the movies are cloaks..

[daniel4hp]

Admittedly, uniforms in the books appear to be different than how they are shown in the films. However, I think there is a very good reason for this. People need to be able to relate to what they're seeing in a movie -- there has to be some sort of connection to the world as they know it. If things are to different, it stops being believable. There are things you can write about in a book, but simply can't show in a film. I think the uniforms are one of these things. You could show them, but if you did, it would be just one more thing that would be to different. The uniforms they have are clearly different than normal clothes (ie they wear cloaks) but at the same time, they do resemble real school uniforms. I think this resemblence is very important in a movie.

[vagos]

i agree with you too,daniel4hp..if the robes were as in the books it would like kind of funny..i like the uniforms in the movies,even though they are not what they wear in the books.and that way it's easier.

[Punk Rocker]

I noticed that to i think it was a movie goff up

[Dragonfly the 2nd]

in Cos it's true, they wouldn't have mistook the girl for a Slytherin, but for some reason Harry and co. know what house everyone is in, because the book always says "some Ravenclaw students walked by" or something like that. There is some way they know.

[Alcina]

in Cos it's true, they wouldn't have mistook the girl for a Slytherin, but for some reason Harry and co. know what house everyone is in, because the book always says "some Ravenclaw students walked by" or something like that. There is some way they know.

Well he must see which table they sit at every meal time, for a start. And it seems students often wear, scarves etc in the colour of their house, especially when they're showing support for their house Quidditch team. I'm sure he'd get to know people's houses without any help from uniform. After all, I know what form most of the kids I teach are in, and that's not written on their uniform.

[morgan le fay]

For some reason the film decided to make them like gowns, which are worn at some British public schools (at least by prefects) and were once worn by undergrads at Oxford and Cambridge (sadly no longer compulsory). But that isn't what the books say.

so wait a tick...... there is a real school structure with prefects in britain??? i thought it was just something that jkr made up! over here in the states we dont have prefects..... just nerds and over-achievers (not too different from myself lol). well thats news to me.......

anyway, i like the uniforms in the films. theres an awful lot of gray in the girl's uniforms (gray sweater, gray skirt, gray socks........ man, how depressing!) but meh. cute nonetheless.

[Dedalus]

so wait a tick...... there is a real school structure with prefects in britain??? i thought it was just something that jkr made up! over here in the states we dont have prefects..... just nerds and over-achievers (not too different from myself lol). well thats news to me.......
A lot more is based on parts of the British school structure, too. As well as prefects, there's Head Boys and Head Girls, having exams in fifth year (We have our O Levels or GCSEs instead or Ordinary Wizard Levels), and then staying on two years after them, either in the same building or another, and doing more exams (A Levels instead of NEWTs) :D


I think it would have been hard for them to do the plain black robes of the books. There is little you can elaborate on them, unlike the adult wizards and witches robes, and so you'd just get a mass of long black drabness - not good for a film, whether it'd make a good uniform in the books or if it were real or not. They'd look out of place next to all these fancier costumes, and in a film you have to make it all fit together and roll smoothly. So the Muggle-ish school uniform idea is good from a design point of view.

[NorthStar]

anyway, i like the uniforms in the films. theres an awful lot of gray in the girl's uniforms (gray sweater, gray skirt, gray socks........ man, how depressing!) but meh. cute nonetheless.

That's normal school uniform colours for about half the schools in Britain - the others have either Navy-blue uniforms or black ones. I remember getting sent home from school one lunchtime to exchange my non-regulation black trousers for navy blue ones, most schools are dead strict about it.

Have to disagree with most people on the uniforms in the films - it really irritates me that they don't have wizards robes like in the books. For an idea on the actual Hogwarts' robes, look at the artwork on the cover of GOF - Harry wearing the robes while flying to avoid the dragon. (American and other countries' covers may have different pictures though)

[NorthStar]

A lot more is based on parts of the British school structure, too. As well as prefects, there's Head Boys and Head Girls, having exams in fifth year (We have our O Levels or GCSEs instead or Ordinary Wizard Levels), and then staying on two years after them, either in the same building or another, and doing more exams (A Levels instead of NEWTs) :D





Note to all non-Brits out there, this structure of Prefects, Head Boys/Girls etc is usually taken from what you'd call Private Schools (over here they are called Public Schools for some reason- it usually means fee-paying schools). Most council-run state comprehensives don't have them. The GCSE's and A-levels are taken at all schools ata the same ages though.

There was a bit of hoo-hah about the books when they first came out from some people who thought JK was glorifying the public boarding school and sort of making out that the state schools weren't good enough. This was because public schools are usually only populated by children of well-off parents. Silly, really, as there is no mention at all of school fees or anything in the books, and the Weasley's aren't well off at all, so there really isn't any justification for accusing JK of being snobbish.

[Dedalus]

Note to all non-Brits out there, this structure of Prefects, Head Boys/Girls etc is usually taken from what you'd call Private Schools (over here they are called Public Schools for some reason- it usually means fee-paying schools). Most council-run state comprehensives don't have them.
I didn't go to a public school (it's called a public school because when they started the were the only ones for general learning, and not belonging to specific trade or guild or a monastery), and we had both prefects and Head Boy/Girl. Most people I knew in other local comprehensive schools had prefects and Head Boys and Head Girls, too. So I don't think it is mostly a public school thing :shrug: .

In primary school I had a grey uniform, and in high school a black one (with red jumpers for prefects). I wanted a really snazzy one that some of the other schools had ... something really revolting and garish. But generally they are boring black, grey, blue or red. Every now and then there's something really awful though, or atleast some awful ties. I suppose that lent itself well to the films, because they can have a plain black uniform, since the robes of the books are black, and school ties,which are normally in two different colour stripes anyway, in the two colours of the Houses.

[Sherlock Holmes]

Incidentally, as I was re-reading OotP last night, I noticed that as they got close to Hogwarts (while still on the train), they all changed into their Hogwarts robes. But they did it in public, in mixed company, which seems to indicate that the robes go over their other clothes, not instead of their other clothes. Which would support the way the films have shown them.

[daniel4hp]

Incidentally, as I was re-reading OotP last night, I noticed that as they got close to Hogwarts (while still on the train), they all changed into their Hogwarts robes. But they did it in public, in mixed company, which seems to indicate that the robes go over their other clothes, not instead of their other clothes. Which would support the way the films have shown them.
Or perhaps the standards of modesty are different in the wizarding world... or Rowling could be hinting at something going on she isn't writing about. :whistle:


It does, however, appear to, as you said, support the mvoie's version. However, it is quite possible that the robes are still more substantial than the films show. It could even be that normally students don't wear normal clothes under their robes, but rather than going off to change, they just wore their robes on top of their normal clothes for that occasion.

Still, like I said above, I don't think it particularly matters. Some things need to be changed in a film, and I don't have much of an issue if they do the robes slightly differently than in the books. In any case, the books are pretty vague, so it's hard to prove that the movies are wrong. But at least for me, I see no reason if the films change things a bit to make it work better on the screen.

[NorthStar]

I didn't go to a public school (it's called a public school because when they started the were the only ones for general learning, and not belonging to specific trade or guild or a monastery), and we had both prefects and Head Boy/Girl. Most people I knew in other local comprehensive schools had prefects and Head Boys and Head Girls, too. So I don't think it is mostly a public school thing :shrug: .

.


Hmm, never realised that!! I know loads of people who went to school all over the place, and have never met one who had prefects or a head boy/girl. I retract my previous statement though, sorry for any confusion!! :blush:

North
*should really check these things out first* :shrug:

[Alcina]

Incidentally, as I was re-reading OotP last night, I noticed that as they got close to Hogwarts (while still on the train), they all changed into their Hogwarts robes. But they did it in public, in mixed company, which seems to indicate that the robes go over their other clothes, not instead of their other clothes. Which would support the way the films have shown them.

I suspect that people can/do wear their robes over other clothes, at least in Autumn/winter, for warmth. But I don't think the other clothes show much. There are several passages that suggest Wizarding robes are closed at the front like a dress, rather than open like a dressing gown. Two examples: we get to read Harry's first year school list, and it doesn't mention any other uniform items besides robes, hat and cloak (surely if his other clothes showed, they'd be listed?) And when the Dark Lord first rise from the cauldron reborn, he tells Wormtail to robe him; Wormtail pulls the robes over his head, showing that Wizarding robes need to be put over the head, they're not just like coats.

[RhondaWeasley]

There are several passages that suggest Wizarding robes are closed at the front like a dress, rather than open like a dressing gown.

There was Snapes memory, when he was flipped over his underpants were revealed (I believe I'm remembering this right) which further suggest Robes are a single garment not worn over regular clothes or a standard school like uniform of tie/sweater/whatever combo (as seen in the video games, movies). Even though the US covers by Mary Grand Pre usually feature Harry in muggle clothes with a cloak over it. But I don't really have a problem with the movie robes, I mean considering how silly people can be about Potter. A movie with teenage boys running around in what some might call 'a uniform similar to dress' might have caused more unfounded accusations.

[cleansweep11]

Well as it was said....in the second book they stop penelope to ask where the slytherin common room was. They say this is evidence that they don't have the badges.....well heres the thing. It was over the holidays and maybe they didn't feel like wearing their robes.

[Etoille]

Perhaps it's by the wear's choice as to what they wear underneath, and/or whether they are completely closed in front or not. We do see Snapes grey underpants in the pensieve scene and there is the comment about someone's privates geting air, however, in OotP, pg. 626 Am. ver. Malfoy, as now part of the Inquisitorial Squad, starts taking points and one of them is for "...Weasley, your shirt's untucked, so I'll have another five for that..." So unless Malfoy has x-ray eyes and Ron is wearing clothes underneath, especially if the tendency is to wear robes over nothing, I'd think his robe was open in front so Malfoy could clearly see Ron's untucked shirt.

[daniel4hp]

Perhaps it's by the wear's choice as to what they wear underneath, and/or whether they are completely closed in front or not.
So, if someone wanted to, they could chose to neither close their robes at the front or wear anything underneath...

[Moonlight]

Okay. About the Ravenclaw girl. Remember the incident happened after the christmas feast. Maybe some students don't wear their uniforms during the hols.

There are a few events that lead me to belief that there is some sort of way to distinguish the houses from their uniforms.

But I agree that the 'Hogwarts Robes' don't represent the Wizarding World very well. I personally can't see the Slytherins wearing anything remotely muggle.

[Aurora]

I think the new uniforms are extremely suitable. I personally don't mind all the muggle clothing, Cuaron's view is fine in my mind. I must say, the students in Third Year look a lot older.

[Sarmi]

Probably the reason for the badges after they are sorted are:

1. Movie Magic

2. The House-Elves

*shrugs*

Ya never know!

Sarmi

[Hufflepuffy]

I rather like the uniforms as they are in the movies. That might also be part of the whole being an American thing, not many schools have uniforms, so I always thought they were neat looking.

As for HP, I think I like the uniforms.. to me, they at least add some familiarity to the stories when there are so many other weird magical things going on. Also, since I saw the movies first, I just always picture the robes as they are in the movies.

But I'm not so attached to them that I'll be all upset if they're not wearing them in PoA.

[FarhanaK]

You know it is a MOVIE!but yeah.... that was pretty lame of them.

[UselessCharmMaster]

Incidentally, as I was re-reading OotP last night, I noticed that as they got close to Hogwarts (while still on the train), they all changed into their Hogwarts robes. But they did it in public, in mixed company, which seems to indicate that the robes go over their other clothes, not instead of their other clothes. Which would support the way the films have shown them.
But it seems to me Ron asked Hermione to go out because they wanted to change?

[eVaNeScEnCe]

I think the new uniforms are extremely suitable. I personally don't mind all the muggle clothing, Cuaron's view is fine in my mind. I must say, the students in Third Year look a lot older.

I agree, they look a lot older. Dan's starting to look un-harry like. He looked more credible as Harry in the first film. I dunno, maybe it has to due with the deeper voice. Anyway, I've seen pics of the new uniforms, and I must say the kids look kind of...disheveled in them, especially Ron. I never pictured Hogwarts to be a school that allowed their students to wear their shirts untucked. But maybe I'm jumping to conclusions and that's just in one scene.

[Wab]

Just on the matter of the crest I always imagined that the robes would simply have the Hogwart's crest (like Tom & Myrtle in the CoS movie) instead of house-specific crests.

[Taichi]

There was a bit of hoo-hah about the books when they first came out from some people who thought JK was glorifying the public boarding school and sort of making out that the state schools weren't good enough. This was because public schools are usually only populated by children of well-off parents. Silly, really, as there is no mention at all of school fees or anything in the books, and the Weasley's aren't well off at all, so there really isn't any justification for accusing JK of being snobbish.

Actually, in the first book, it is stated that they do pay school fees.....

Uncle Vernon states: "I will not pay to have some crackpot old fool teach him magic tricks" implying that he had to pay....

further, in the vault in Gringotts when Harry fills up his money bag, Hagrid states that what Harry took "Should be enough to get you through a few semesters"

[Alcina]

Okay. About the Ravenclaw girl. Remember the incident happened after the christmas feast. Maybe some students don't wear their uniforms during the hols.

There are a few events that lead me to belief that there is some sort of way to distinguish the houses from their uniforms.

But I agree that the 'Hogwarts Robes' don't represent the Wizarding World very well. I personally can't see the Slytherins wearing anything remotely muggle.

Fair point about the hols. Though I kind of imagined a Christmas feast being a formal occasion, kind of like eating in Hall at Cambridge University, where you have to wear gowns/robes.

I think the best piece of evidence against the wearing of collars and ties is the one you mention here, actually; there seems to me no way that families like the Malfoys (and remember at one point Malfoy had a lot of power in Hogwarts) would stand for their sons and daughters wearing Muggle clothes.

[vagos]

I was reading OotP last night and noticed that after lessons Malfoy took Ron some points for wearing his shirt untucked and I'm pretty sure there was somewhere something about uniforms.These are clues that the robes are like in the films and they do wear uniforms.But then again there are many other things proving the exact opposite thing.I don't know what to think of the robes,the movie ones and the dress-like ones both seem to fit...


Fair point about the hols. Though I kind of imagined a Christmas feast being a formal occasion, kind of like eating in Hall at Cambridge University, where you have to wear gowns/robes.
Since at Christmas most of the students go home,it is possible the dinner is not considered a formal occasion,like the Begin/End of term and the Halloween feasts.

[GryffindorSeeker]

I never did, and still don't think that the robes were actually the way they are in the movies. In my opinion, the way that they have the school uniform seems a little... mugglish.

[UselessCharmMaster]

What I have difficulties to imagine is all the schoolboys dancing at the Yule Ball in their long dress robes. :rolleyes: Must be quite... uneasy to move wearing them, huh? Especially if you're not a good dancer. No wonder Harry tried to protest.

[Dedalus]

I'm pretty sure that they wear plain black robes and not like those in the film, in the book. It describes on their uniform list in the first book to have "plain black work robes", along with a pointy hat ... nothing fancy, no mention of shirts or trousers or skirts, no ties mentioned ... so I don't think there's any question about the film's uniforms being unique to the film, and not intended in the books.

But I don't think it matters at all that they changed it in the film. The uniforms fit with the surroundings and the whole feel of the film, and with the other costumes being elaborated on, the plain black robes would look a bit dull. It's just a nice artistic addition.

[Alcina]

What I have difficulties to imagine is all the schoolboys dancing at the Yule Ball in their long dress robes. :rolleyes: Must be quite... uneasy to move wearing them, huh? Especially if you're not a good dancer. No wonder Harry tried to protest.

No harder than a woman dancing in a long dress:) And we do it all the time.

It's pretty much a matter of practice; the first few times you try to run, get in a car, go upstairs, dance etc. in a long dress you tend to fall over. You soon get used to it though. I remember everyone being really surprised at the way I was running around in my wedding dress, as apparently most people have a lot of trouble; once you are used to going abut everyday life in a long skirt, you stop noticing. And Harry and co. are used to it by now.

[HollywoodBob]

I always got the impression from the books, that the robes resembled a floor length hooded sweatshirt.

I think the decision to make give the films the open fronted gowns was for reasons of familiarity and practicality, I think it would be difficult for kids to be running around in in something that restrained their legs.

-HollywoodBob

[UselessCharmMaster]

I always got the impression from the books, that the robes resembled a floor length hooded sweatshirt.

I think the decision to make give the films the open fronted gowns was for reasons of familiarity and practicality, I think it would be difficult for kids to be running around in in something that restrained their legs.

:rotfl: Excellent idea to stop them running like young children always do. I shall propose something like this in my school, it can highly increase the general discipline.

[potterlookalike]

Well I thought ropes where in place of clothing. I support the view of a sorta hooded sweatshirt. I never thought robes had diferent houses on them. If they did then when harry and ron where crab and goyle and they ran into a ravenclaw they would have been able to tell she wasn't a slytherin.

[Alci]

I always got the impression from the books, that the robes resembled a floor length hooded sweatshirt.

I think the decision to make give the films the open fronted gowns was for reasons of familiarity and practicality, I think it would be difficult for kids to be running around in in something that restrained their legs.
TBH the open gowns are very close to the standard robes worn at many English public schools. Certainly my old prefects gown would pass muster for the film set ;)

On an earlier comment, I've certainly seen long gowns hide many items of non-standard clothing...and they arn't bad at keeping the winter drafts out either :)

[Moonlight]

Actually, in the first book, it is stated that they do pay school fees.....

Uncle Vernon states: "I will not pay to have some crackpot old fool teach him magic tricks" implying that he had to pay....

further, in the vault in Gringotts when Harry fills up his money bag, Hagrid states that what Harry took "Should be enough to get you through a few semesters"

I think what they mean here, is paying for books, clothes, etc. I always assumed that the actual teaching is free. :shrug:

Every witch and wizard should have a standard knowledge of magic. Otherwise they'd be havoc. Just because they're poor doesn't mean they should be deprived of that chance.

Sorry, just a little off topic there. :scared:

[cleansweep11]

I agree with Moonlight. I always assumbed that the actually teaching was free.I always thought the Dursleys thing was just ignorance,that Hagrid ment supplies,and how else would the weasley's afford to send all 7 of there children to school?

[ponytail]

even if they did mess up wat house there goin got be in
why must the wear the clocks all over every scene
do they have any muggle clothing to fit in

[HollywoodBob]

www.Artdungeon.net has exactly what I imagined the robes would look like. The lady that draws them does some excelent work.


-HollywoodBob

[Discordia]

Well I like there new uniforms. They actually make them look a little.....cute:drool: lol

[Muggle Tiff]

Sorry if this has already been brought up.

You know when you see a film and certain things stick out to you? Well, the other day I was watching Harry and the Philosophers stone when I noticed that all of the kids have their house badge sewn onto their cloaks, but how could the first years have bought the cloaks with the right house on them if they don't know which house they'll be in? Unless they take sew it on themselves...

I just assumed, at least after reading CoS, that the house elves sewed them on. Just as we see in CoS, when Ron and Harry come in, that their baggage is all piled in...somehow it gets to their rooms...house elves? In the scenes before they are sorted they have only the Hogwarts crest on black ties, not house ties.

[Masterfroggy]

I just assumed, at least after reading CoS, that the house elves sewed them on. Just as we see in CoS, when Ron and Harry come in, that their baggage is all piled in...somehow it gets to their rooms...house elves? In the scenes before they are sorted they have only the Hogwarts crest on black ties, not house ties.

Robes easy as, no shirt no ties no jumpers

Just change the morter board for a wizards hat and Bobs your mother's Brother

[Courtz]

I really like their Hogwarts uniforms. I like the way Hermione's got her uniform done up all the time, and the way Ron just has his t-shirt hanging out. And I like their scarves they wear as well. But what I like the most about the Hogwarts uniforms is the fact that the jumpers are exactly the same as the jumpers I wear for school! Yay!

[Zachary1993]

It is a mistake just like in the Harry Potter COS vidoe game when Ginny has a Gryffindor uniform at Diagon Alley when whe has not been sorted yet.

[lxs234]

Yes, the robes are a little disshelved (is that the right word?), untucked and everything. i think its because it was so hot when they were filming, and the actors couldn't have the shirts tucked in or rupert with a robe becuase it was so hot.

[daniel4hp]

What does the heat of the film set have to do with the costumes? If Cuaron wanted the shirts tucked in, they'd be tucked in -- it doesn't really matter how warm that actors are. Its their job to put up with some discomfort for the sake of the movie.

Or are you saying that Rupert had his shirt untucked because it was warm, and Cuaron thought that would look good in the movie? That's a possibility. But you can't say that "the actors couldn't have the shirts tucked in," since wearing their costumes correctly (ie, how the director wants) is part of being an actor...

[hawk1245]

It is a mistake just like in the Harry Potter COS vidoe game when Ginny has a Gryffindor uniform at Diagon Alley when whe has not been sorted yet.

Did anyone else notice that the new uniforms in POA are almost identical to the uniforms in the games? Weird, uh?

[Wab]

Actually, in the first book, it is stated that they do pay school fees.....

Uncle Vernon states: "I will not pay to have some crackpot old fool teach him magic tricks" implying that he had to pay....

Not that he would know.

further, in the vault in Gringotts when Harry fills up his money bag, Hagrid states that what Harry took "Should be enough to get you through a few semesters"

Always assumed that Hagrid meant a few terms of supplies and other incidentals.

[lxs234]

I don't think it was just rupert who had his shirt untucked. some of the extras were like that too, without robes. they aren't proffesional actors, so being uncomfortable isn't something they have to do. im sure after a while of trying to get the uniform kept on, the directors just gave up. it wouldn't be fair to the kids, and if they got too hot, it could be dangerous.

[daniel4hp]

they aren't proffesional actors, so being uncomfortable isn't something they have to do.
If they're extras, then it's their job too to wear the costumes the way the director/costume dept. wants them to while on set. No, they aren't professional, but when you're in a film, you do what you're told. If its hot, to bad. You don't just say, "Oh, its hot, so I don't think I'll tuck my shirt in for this scene!"

[mina]

If they're extras, then it's their job too to wear the costumes the way the director/costume dept. wants them to while on set. No, they aren't professional, but when you're in a film, you do what you're told. If its hot, to bad. You don't just say, "Oh, its hot, so I don't think I'll tuck my shirt in for this scene!"

Exactly! A director doesn't have the time to deal with an extra who doesn't happen to want to dress properly. They could easily be replaced with another who will be more than willing to wear the costume. It's just like any other job, you do what you are told or you are fired.

They wouldn't let it get to the point where it would be dangerous, otherwise they would have a large lawsuit on their hands (and that won't look good for Cuaron's careear, or Warner Brothers for that matter).

[daniel4hp]

Yeah, I think if the film set was so hot that it actually wasn't safe for someone to wear their shirt tucked in, they wouldn't be filming...

Anyway, the story about the extra may be partially true -- I believe Cuaron has a less strict method of directing than Columbus had, so he may have encouraged the actors to wear their costumes in the way most comfortable for them (reasoning that this is how the students would dress). But if someone has their shirt untucked, its because Cuaron wants it that way. Its not because he really wants it tucked in, but the actor just won't do it.

[Taichi]

In any case, JK was consulted on what the outfits should look like, and she said that they looked like standard British School Uniforms, but instead of a suit jacket, they had a cloak thingie.....

and I don't think Tuition is free at Hogwarts, as for how the Weasleys pay for it, you assume that they're so poor they can't afford anything......I'm sure if schooling were important, it would be top priority......

[Knight Bus]

I am one of those that think the uniforms are a great addition and was surprised that the students didn't wear them in the books being that uniforms are worn in British public schools. Also movies are visional and uniforms look allot better than robes that would've come off looking like baggie black dresses.

[remusjlupin1980]

I believe Cuaron instructed the actors and the student extras to wear their uniforms the way they would wear it if they wore it in real life.

[Wab]

I believe Cuaron instructed the actors and the student extras to wear their uniforms the way they would wear it if they wore it in real life.

He says as much in an interview. Wanting the kids to look like people he told them to wear the uniform as they would if their parents weren't looking in order to break the incredible (as in not believable) buttoned down look of the earlier films.

[Alfonzo]

The uniforms made me think of secondary school - shirts hanging out, ties all manner of sizes. I think it was a nice touch, it made it more realistic :).

[Ludivine]

The uniforms made me think of secondary school - shirts hanging out, ties all manner of sizes. I think it was a nice touch, it made it more realistic :).

Yes, I went to a private school where we had to wear uniforms and in the students in first wear usually wear it properly but as the school years go by, students start adding their personnal touch to the uniform.

[Alfonzo]

Yes, I went to a private school where we had to wear uniforms and in the students in first wear usually wear it properly but as the school years go by, students start adding their personnal touch to the uniform.

We added non-school uniform items such as jumpers and skate shoes :D.

[Ludivine]

We added non-school uniform items such as jumpers and skate shoes :D.

Lucky you. We were not allowed to add clothes to the uniform like jumpers but we could wear any shoes.

[Alfonzo]

Lucky you. We were not allowed to add clothes to the uniform like jumpers but we could wear any shoes.

Well we were not allowed to add these items but we did so anyway ;).

[hawk1245]

Well, schools ussually only make you wear a uniform and don't instruct you much on how to. In PS/SS righ after the final exams, Ron has his tie undone, so it's not like it's new. Thats just what school kids anywhere with uniforms do. Notice that Hermione's tiemis always perfectly straight, weras Ron's looks like no effort went into making it straght, and Harry looks like he tried, but jkust couldn't get it right. Seamus has his cut off, etc. etc...The way they wear their uniforms fits their character. Newell seems to be keeping faithfull to what Cauron established in POA, and at the same time also staying true to Columbus' films, but ALSO making the GOF his own vision. I like this alot, but I loved Cauron too, but I am faithful that Nwell will get GOF right to say the least, I think it will be great. I think that he will please both Cauron fans and Columbus fans, as well as please people like me who liked both Columbus and Cauron.

[aggiefan1206]

Well im guesing someone did it magically for them when they arrived. There are so many ways for things like that to be done. Mabe whoever puts the peoples belonging in their rooms does it or mabe event he house elves. Or mabe they just appear out of now where. Its jk's wizarding world think of the endless possibilities

[hawk1245]

Well im guesing someone did it magically for them when they arrived. There are so many ways for things like that to be done. Mabe whoever puts the peoples belonging in their rooms does it or mabe event he house elves. Or mabe they just appear out of now where. Its jk's wizarding world think of the endless possibilities

Actually it's more liley that the school just changed the design of the uniforms. Watch COS, Moaning Myrtle and Tom Riddle's robes are a completley different design than the ones that the 'current' students wore in that film. Every school redesigns their uniforms every few years in reality, same with the wizard world.

[Blizzard]

I thought I had read somewhere that their robes had their houses logo sewed on later, but I'm am probably mistaken. Maybe the plain robes were to wear on weekends, or holidays.

[lunalovely]

. Malfoy, as now part of the Inquisitorial Squad, starts taking points and one of them is for "...Weasley, your shirt's untucked, so I'll have another five for that..." .
That's something that used to happen at my school. They were mucho strict about having your shirt tucked in and your skirt a certain length.

But yeah, I think it's just one of those things that JK made a mistake about. Or maybe, some people wear robes which open down the front and some don't...

[PotionsPunk]

(in response to the initial question) if you notice as the students file into the Great Hall their robes are patchless. There is no crest (at least last I checked, it's either without a patch or with the Hogwarts Crest). It isn't until the next morning that there is a specific House. I'm sorry I can't refrence the movie at the moment, but I will check my DVD tomorrow to be more specific. If this information is incorrect I apologize, but I remember having this question and checking myself for the answer, I'm pretty sure that's the result I got.

[SyirenSlytherin]

yes in the first year when they came in, there was no emblem on their robs, their ties were black with the Hogwarts emblem, and their sweaters didn't have house colours on them. in CoS Tom's robes have the hogwarts emblem in the place of a house emblem, i couldn't tell what colour his tie was though.

[UselessCharmMaster]

(in response to the initial question) if you notice as the students file into the Great Hall their robes are patchless. There is no crest (at least last I checked, it's either without a patch or with the Hogwarts Crest). It isn't until the next morning that there is a specific House. I'm sorry I can't refrence the movie at the moment, but I will check my DVD tomorrow to be more specific. If this information is incorrect I apologize, but I remember having this question and checking myself for the answer, I'm pretty sure that's the result I got.

After the sorting scene, there is the boys' room at night, an you can see Harry's trunk with a scarf and a tie with Gryffindor colours. So I think after children being sorted, somebody (magically) sends them appropriate ties, scarfs, etc.

[SyirenSlytherin]

just like someone (magically) sends their belongings to Gryffindore tower ;)

[LunaStar_1000]

I think the uniformes were great they were what really made Hogwarts different from schools as we know them, and I think that Alfonso Cuaron didnt have the right to take them out of the film like that and make the students wear "muggle" clothes. I mean they do look good in "muggle clothes" but they really fulfilled their parts in their uniformes.

[LilPip07]

i've never had to wear uniforms in school but we did have strict dress codes. These kids are still 13/14 years old in this book so if a younger student had to constantly wear robes, ties and buttonup shirts, the student would probably get uncomfortable. Especially in the outdoor setting of Care of Magical Creatures ties were crooked, shirts were untucked and pants were a bit wrinkled. It's a statement basically of as much relaxation students can get in such an uptight uniform system and it was only being shown through how the characters would use the uniforms themselves. Well, that was wordy.

[hawk1245]

I think the uniformes were great they were what really made Hogwarts different from schools as we know them, and I think that Alfonso Cuaron didnt have the right to take them out of the film like that and make the students wear "muggle" clothes. I mean they do look good in "muggle clothes" but they really fulfilled their parts in their uniformes.

Actually, they wore muggle cloths in the first two outside of classes. When Wood teaches Harr yabout Christmas, when Ron and Harry play wizard chess, the ENTIRE action climaz of the first film, devils snare, chess, flying keys, Voldemort, they wear muggle cloths the whole time. The only reason they are more stylish (logiclly) is because they are teenagers. I can speak for MOST of the people here (not all mind you) in saying that once you become a teenager, wether when you turn 13, or a few months/years later, your dress style changes drasticlly. You are allowed to pick your own stuff more, and not stuff your Mom and Dad pick out for you. Hermione's parents are dentists (IE-Rich) so they can get her nice cloths, Ron's clothes are pretty much the same type of sweaters and jumbers he wore in the first two, all hand knitted. And Harry's stuff is a bit baggy on him, as they are mostly hand me downs from Dudley. Also note that in POA most all of the scens where they wear Muggle cloths are on weekends or holidays, and they wear robes during classes.

[Dagmar]

I liked the robes/uniforms in the first two movies. It gives a real visual difference between the magic and muggle worlds. Plus, it helps to transform the school into kind of a timeless place. In the flash back scenes in the second movie, the students are all wearing the same robes as the present day students.

[Dreamless]

Well, the head of house could have a stash of badges and they would give them to the students who were first years and then the students would pin/sew/magically attach them to their cloaks or whatever.

[TheSnidget]

I hate how they don't wear their robes in the PoA film. In scenes where they definitely do wear robes, eg the Shrieking Shack scene (it is mentioned in the book) they are all wearing normal clothes. Does anyone else think robes just look so much cooler? But I think that for some reason the film makers thought it would be cooler if they were just wearing normal clothes. Half of the adults don't wear robes either - Lupin, Lockhart, Mr and Mrs Weasley, etc. and they definitely wear them in the books. I find it really annoying that they don't in the film. They just wear cloaks with Muggle clothes underneath.

I always assumed that they wore their robes over other clothes, from the fact that they put them on in the train and so on. Maybe over time it has become less common for people to wear robes with nothing else under them, which would explain why Snape and old Archie don't seem to have anything on underneath. But they definitely all wear their robes all the time in classes, to whatever levels of tidiness. The robes are not just like cloaks, as they also wear cloaks in bad weather.

I never got the impression from the books that they wear uniforms under the robes as there are never any mentions of ties etc. Ron is described as wearing a shirt at one point but that doesn't necessarily mean he's wearing a uniform. I suppose you can get different kinds of robes, some which have fasten up the front and some which don't. Whether they open up the front as the Hogwarts ones seem to, or not, it would probably still be easier to put them on over your head. I thought the film makers chose to have uniforms under the robes because they looked quaintly old fashioned and British, which I suppose they do. ButI went to a British school and we had no prefects, Head Boys and Girls, and a pretty lax unifrom policy especially for the younger years, so that's not the norm. There are a lot of schools I know where there is no uniform at all. Uniforms are supposed to prevent bullying, that's why a lot of schools have them.

I also got the impression that the house ties and badges were another invention of the film makers.

[Walli9989]

i soooo agree!!! the robes are what made hogwarts really real, you know? i like the robes a lot better