CoSForums Archive - Mike Newell directing "Goblet of Fire"

remusjlupin1980

July 25th, 2003, 9:09 am

According to this article:

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?story=4911

It's Mike Newell. He's a good director but his credits consist of romantic comedies (Four Weddings and a Funeral) and dramas (Enchanted April, Donnie Brasco). I'm sure the drama between Harry and Ron and the scene in the Yule Ball will be great with his touch but can he handle the action sequences and special effects?

The closest thing to Harry Potter he directed before was an episode of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.

Guardian Angel

July 25th, 2003, 9:18 am

But - why? I thought Alfonso Cuaron would direct GoF as well...

invisablethestral

July 25th, 2003, 9:57 am

I think their maybe jumping the gun on this one, given that they dont even know the finished product of PoA yet. Would be a bit of a kick in the teeth for Alfonso if this is true and he was hoping to do GoF.

remusjlupin1980

July 25th, 2003, 10:23 am

Maybe the plan is to have a different director for the rest of the films a la James Bond so each film will stand on its own as an individual film with each one a different look and style to accomodate the darker, more complex themes in each book.

Other qualified directors who may take on the rest of the series:

Tim Burton
Andrew Davis (directed Holes)
Guillermo Del Toro (directed Blade 2 and The Devil's Backbone)
Terry Gilliam (J.K.'s first choice)
Jean Pierre Jeunet (directed Alien: Resurrection, Amelie and the fantasy The City of Lost Children)
Ang Lee
Ridley Scott

Llopin

July 25th, 2003, 10:35 am

Hmm I don't know about Newell, he doesn't seem very specialized in fantasy/sci-fi films, but of course I think he'd be better that Columbus (but if possible, keep Cuaron). At least Newell is british.

Personally, I think they should have chosen Gilliam for the first and next movies. He is just perfect, he has directed many fantasy films (Brazil, Time Bandits, etc). No wonder why JK wanted him.

Hannibal "Drax" Lecter

July 25th, 2003, 10:57 am

If Alfonso Cuaron wasn't chosen for PoA, I personally would have gone for Oliver Stone. The scenes featuring Gary Oldman in potential black and white flashback scenes as Sirius Black from others' "perspective" of events would have been quite humourously reminiscent of JFK.

:p

But seriously, a rumour is just that - a rumour, until proven or confirmed that is. Dirty-rotten or not.

remusjlupin1980

July 25th, 2003, 11:04 am

The main reason they didn't choose Terry Gilliam is because he is too unpredictable (unlike Columbus, Gilliam is an actual ARTIST) and his style might alienate the masses. Selecting an actual artist, according to the studio, would be a risky choice to start a franchise. They needed someone whose style will not alienate audiences and the fans, who they can control. They chose Columbus.

Gilliam actually WANTED to direct Harry Potter but the studios were too chicken to let him do so.

Llopin

July 25th, 2003, 11:07 am

Originally posted by Hannibal "Drax" Lecter (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=483016#post483016))
If Alfonso Cuaron wasn't chosen for PoA, I personally would have gone for Oliver Stone. The scenes featuring Gary Oldman in potential black and white flashback scenes as Sirius Black from others' "perspective" of events would have been quite humourously reminiscent of JFK.

:D

It would be a film full of F words and violence... but Oldman was indeed very good in JFK. Well, he is always good. :tu:

Originally posted by remusjlupin1980 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=483023#post483023))
Gilliam actually WANTED to direct Harry Potter but the studios were too chicken to let him do so.

Bah. the movies would have been so better...

martinnyg

July 25th, 2003, 4:43 pm

This doesn't bode well for PoA, if they're looking for a new director. It has to mean that Cuaron didn't do that good a job with PoA. Because if he had made a super movie, I'm sure that they would keep him. Everything else would be stupid.

psychofan

July 26th, 2003, 7:06 am

Hey, I would love to see Robert Zemekis direct one of them. He did the Back to the Future movies, so you know he can deal with special effects. He also did Forrest Gump, so he can deal with an emotional storyline. He also did I Wanna Hold Your Hand about the Beatles phenomenon, so he can handle the Brits, not that they need to be "handled" or anything... :embarasse

thethirdman

July 26th, 2003, 8:59 am

Tim Burton would do a great job. The special effects would rock. But I would go with Jean Pierre Jeunet because of his style.

rotsiepots

July 26th, 2003, 9:18 am

Let's just all bear in mind that this is just a rumour. As much as I enjoy reading Empire magazine they are quite notorious for getting some of their articles from less than reputable sources.

I really hope that Alfonso stays on for GoF. I don't necessarily agree that each film should be treated as a separate entity -- the stories are so interconnected that it's nice to have some cohesion between films in terms of direction, acting etc.

Time will only tell, I suppose. ;)

thethirdman

July 26th, 2003, 9:48 am

I hope they take their time making the films. That way, I'll have my MFA in film in time for the book 6 or 7 film. But regardless of what comes, 'tis fun to dream.

HarryPotter123

July 30th, 2003, 12:45 pm

Who's idea was it for the director change? WB or Columbus? Do they only sign each director a movie at a time or what. Personally, I don't like the idea of different directors. Each person has their own interpratation and the continuity gets ruined sometimes. I don't know for certain wither POA will be good or not but I'm concenerned.

It's the same to me as if JK had someone else write the last 2 books, they could be great but it'd just bother me and always have me wondering if what the story would have been like in the original persons mind?

Discuss :scared:

Sirius83

July 30th, 2003, 1:01 pm

POA will be the best of the 3, Cuaron is a far, far better director than Columbus. Columbus took a back seat because he was too tired. Cuaron is signed on for POA and they're checking out people to do GOF. Personalyl, from the looks of POA,i'd like Cuaron to stay on for GOF, but he said he's only on board for 1 movie.

daniel4hp

July 30th, 2003, 1:24 pm

Supposedly, Columbus decided to resign because he was exausted and wanted to spend more time with his family. Thus, Warner Bros. was forced to come up with someone else, and they chose Cuaron.

This may or may not be the case. The "spending more time with his family" story is very old and cliche, and I'm not sure it can be trusted. It may be the case, but it may not. It would not surprise me if WB felt that it was time for a new, better director, and thus they sacked Columbus. Who knows.

Mega

July 30th, 2003, 1:27 pm

PoA looks like it will be the best. I feel sorry for the person who has to turn GoF into a movie.

Weasley24

July 30th, 2003, 2:18 pm

By the looks of it, Cuaron looks to be a better director. I like the way he's doing things for this movie. I'm not really sure why, but I have the feeling this is going to be the HP movie so far. Lets hope...

dobby_rocks

July 30th, 2003, 2:19 pm

I think Chris just wanted to take a break, director isnt easy, but he is Producer so he still has some input on things, i have heard the kids are happy that he is least around

as far Alfonso only doing one filme, i have heard that theywant to start pre production of GOF right away. and they still be doing Post prodcuiton of POA

He proabably only wanted to do one, i have to dought they would have found a director who would have signed on for 7 movies. Theyd want to go out and do other things ya know

"Cuaron is a far, far better director than Columbus"
This is just presonel opininon, i wouldnt say who is better i havent seen enough of eithers work to detrimine that. Chris did a good job, and Curaon seems to be doing a good job as well

Mander

July 30th, 2003, 2:51 pm

Columbus is still working on it as producer. I dunno, but I have a really good feeling about POA. I think the new dude's made some changes some may not like, but this is the best book, in my personal opinion so far, so I'm thinking I'll have enjoyed it-Columbus as directors or not.And Columbus did do a good job:D

harryton

July 30th, 2003, 2:58 pm

i think cuaron will do the better then Columbus, he is more experienced and has produced the best mexican movies so far.

Sirius83

July 30th, 2003, 3:04 pm

Well, the whole thing is - while the first 2 films were good, i felt they were a bit of a let down. The mood was missing. I can tell just from the shots like the "hug" scene and the one with McGonagall that this movie has a very well done atmosphere and mood to it.

Columbus also directed Home Alone...i'd like to check out some of Cuarons other works now, he really seems to be good.

Llopin

July 30th, 2003, 4:00 pm

While being a very different film, I thought "Y Tu Mama Tambien" was a good movie, I liked Cuaron's style of directing, and if it's applied to PoA, I'll be happy. Haven't seen anything else by him, but I really trust him. And for those who think he's out of control, have in mind that Heyman, Columbus and Kloves are still around.

SeniorFishy

July 30th, 2003, 4:51 pm

Christopher Columbus left the director seat because he was too exhausted so he told the studio that he didn't have enough energy to do the next one.

Cauron is preety much a new director, his recent films include:

Y Tu Mama Tambien
Great Expectations
A Little Princess

While 'Great Expectations' was a bomb on the big screens, both 'A Little Princess' and 'Y tu Mama Tambien' were highly acclaimed pieces. (although Y tu Mama has been highly criticized).

basedonit

July 30th, 2003, 5:27 pm

daniel4hp

July 30th, 2003, 6:34 pm

And for those who think he's out of control, have in mind that Heyman, Columbus and Kloves are still around.
Sad, but true.

Llopin

July 30th, 2003, 6:56 pm

However judging by the pictures I think they let Cuaron to have his freedom and direct his movie.

Mistress Snivellus

July 30th, 2003, 7:10 pm

i think a great director would be Tim Burton, his movies are awesome and would fit great, especially if they made OoTP into a movie, cauase its such a dark book and hes such a talented dark director. Anyways i think Cuaron will do a good job with the directing part, there are a few things im un-happy with, but when it comes from a book its everyones interpretation so you never get always what you thought. like Malfoys hair, it never said in the books that it was slicked back but i thought it added like a sneaky ratty sort of quality to him that JKR portrays really well int he books but would be hard to do in the movies. And i was shocked at first to see that they werent wearing very many robes but i guess its normal...except for the night of the shreiking shack because i think that A LOT of people saw that scene with robes, but other than that he should do good.

I second the motion of having wanted Tim Burton to have had a hand in directing the Potter movies. The man is simply awesome and has a great eye for the weird and strange, almost sinister, yet there's a genuine earnestness to his films. A true cinematic visionary. *sigh*

I have yet to see any of Cuaron's work, except parts of Great Expectations which I wasn't too fond of - so my opinion is still a bit fuzzy being that I am 95% unfamiliar with his directing style. I am looking foward to see his take on Harry Potter nontheless because he is a highly acclaimed director. But since the director has changed, I wonder if the same costume designers, art directors, John Williams, etc. are to remain the same.

Sirius83

July 30th, 2003, 10:24 pm

John Williams is still on i believe. I'm not sure about the costume designers, but i like the new look Hogwarts uniforms and the teachers outfits seem pretty good. The teenagers also look like teenagers which is also good. The producer is still Heyman(thats his name right?) joined with Columbus and the screenwriter is still Kloves with JKR poking over his shoulder with a sparking wand. On a related note to the last point, on the COS DVD interview, JKR said she is really pleased with the POA script and thinks it is in the best shape of the 3 movies they've scripted out up till the time of the interview, which is great news.

Should be pretty good.

Hannibal "Drax" Lecter

July 30th, 2003, 10:34 pm

While Tim Burton is a great director and visionary (gotta love Ed Wood!), I just couldn't see him working properly on a Harry Potter film with Columbus, Heyman and Rowling breathing down his neck. Similar circumstances happened to Burton on Planet of the Apes when Fox and Richard Zanuck seemed to have had more control over post-production than he did - especially in the editing and music department.

However, his unique brand of humour and personalization would suit my tastes for a HP film anyday. Not to mention that Danny Elfman would have to score it...

:evil:

illuminati

July 30th, 2003, 11:35 pm

I would love to see Alex Proyas direct OotP over Tim Burton(huge TB fan so don't get me wrong)though he probably would not do it. Proyas from my pov just is one of the best over looked directors that has quite the dark imagination as well. Ridley Scott or Neil Jordan would be great as well.

As far as GoF goes id like to see someone like Martin Brest, Robert Altman, or maybe Stephen Frears attached to it since all of them make heavy character driven movies.

Llopin

July 31st, 2003, 4:40 am

Terry Gilliam would be the best. I don't know why they didn't choose him to do the first one. It was JK's favourite...

rotsiepots

July 31st, 2003, 9:03 am

vagos

July 31st, 2003, 9:47 am

cuaron is good,but i want robes.alex proyas would be the greatest thing in hpmovies,because his 'The Crow' is the best live-action film EVER!!!!!!the best film generally is disney's hunchback of notre dame(hehe)

Sirius83

July 31st, 2003, 12:50 pm

Llopin

July 31st, 2003, 12:53 pm

Can i ask why everyones complaining about the lack of robes? The last 2 films did not depict students in robes outside of school hours. Perhaps the clothing is more "tendy" this time around but the fact they're not wearing robes while not attending classes is no different to the last 2 movies. And nobody seemed to complained about that.

I don't think people are paranoic, it's just that they were used to see the pictures for the robes first, and now they see mostly muggle clothing and they get all upset. Weird. And even if you explain it, some of them don't seem to understand.

HarryPotter123

July 31st, 2003, 1:02 pm

I don't think we are weird or dumb or whatever else for not liking some of the changes. People simply don't like change. I don't like the director change, wardrobe change if their is a drastic one and any othe change really. I'm a creature of habit and like seeing the same things. I like continuity. It doesn't mean I'm gonna go see the movie with a chip on my shoulder.

It doesn't mean I think Cuaron is inferior. I don't care if Speilberg took over I would still be leary of him making changes to what has already been laid out. Change is okay if it's subtle, I just don't want any black/white changes. We all love Harry Potter and want to see it come out as best as possible, same as you guys. We just question if some of the ideas we've heard are for the better

Llopin

July 31st, 2003, 1:31 pm

Sorry if I offended anyone, I didn't want that under any circumstance. Only that the detractors seem to be complaining for just a few pictures. Maybe we should wait and see. When you've seen the film, you are free to complain and I'll give you the reason, but do not judge the director, the wardrobe or the movie for just a few photos, because it isn't fair.

FreyaCrescent

July 31st, 2003, 1:32 pm

I can see why people are wary that Cuaron is on board for PoA, but sometimes you've just got to take a leap of faith. He's shaping up to be a great director, and although you can't just judge a movie on a few stills, PoA could be the best HP film to date.

Columbus wants to protect the "Potter-verse" that he created in PS/SS and CoS, I don't think there's much chance of Prisoner of Azkaban being a totally ground-breaking new film and Cuaron changing nearly every single aspect.

daniel4hp

July 31st, 2003, 1:34 pm

Ive very disappointed that Columbus is staying on to protect Harryverse, but it appears that Cuaron is getting his changes made despite Columbus. But then, I didn't much like Columbus' "Harryverse."

Sirius83

July 31st, 2003, 1:35 pm

I don't think people are paranoic, it's just that they were used to see the pictures for the robes first, and now they see mostly muggle clothing and they get all upset. Weird. And even if you explain it, some of them don't seem to understand.

Problem is, one of the first shots we had was of the trio on set in their Hogwarts robes. :shrug:

I also mean no offense to anyone if i came off that way at all.

Llopin

July 31st, 2003, 1:44 pm

Problem is, one of the first shots we had was of the trio on set in their Hogwarts robes. :shrug:

Hmm yeah but I guess that being just one it doesn't convince people, and most of the detractors seem to ignore this picture. Let's hope the next pics that appear are with the trio in robes, maybe this way the detractors will be convinced Cuaron is doing the right thing...

*_nymphie_*

July 31st, 2003, 1:51 pm

im sure alfonso will do a great job.. although i dont want to put my hopes up, incase he does a bad job at POA! but im getting excited about the movie.!

let's not judge the director or the movie just because of pictures..as someone said let's wait for the movie to come out, then anybody can critisize to their hearts content!

i kinda but not really understand (okay.. that must be confusing. that's bec im) why people complain about robes.. as i said in another thread (i think, not really sure if that's what i posted) i kinda understand, but while reading other people's post its started to confuse me.. there are still robes in the movie.. so why complain?! it's not like they didn't use muggle clothes in the first 2 movies..

remusjlupin1980

July 31st, 2003, 2:16 pm

For those of you who are still doubting Cuaron's capability in directing PoA, I strongly suggest that you go out and rent A Little Princess. That will put your worries at ease a bit.

ana_banana

July 31st, 2003, 6:16 pm

I think Cuaron is EXCELLENT. I'm mexican and we are all proud that finally, someone has considered someone like him to direct a huge movie like this one. You forget no changes can be done without JK's knowledge, because of the story line. I hope you people judging him in that way. A sequel WONT owkr if it always the same thing...

belloc

August 1st, 2003, 3:33 am

I heard from someone who knows Chris Noonan - the guy that directed Babe - that he has also been talking to Warners about directing the movie. Apparently he was in Hollywood last week to talk to them.

Anyway - that's the news from australia.

Hannibal "Drax" Lecter

August 1st, 2003, 3:42 am

Chris Noonan did an excellent job on Babe, but I personally prefer George Miller's work on Babe: Pig in the City. Miller would be good for a Potter film, IMHO.

;)

HarryPotter123

August 1st, 2003, 9:50 am

What is "Potter-verse"?

Aberforth D

August 1st, 2003, 11:17 pm

I'm not the first one to make this connection, I actually read it in an article... I just think it's a really funny comparison to Defense Against the Dark Arts teachers the way they seem to be switching directors every film! haha...

remusjlupin1980

August 1st, 2003, 11:38 pm

Cuaron is Lupin.

Sebastian06

August 2nd, 2003, 5:35 pm

Cuaron is Lupin.

Exactly. :) And Columbus was Lockhart, in that he didn't know what the hell he was doing.

PhoenixUK

August 4th, 2003, 6:46 am

Hehe, and Cuaron isn't directing the next movie - maybe we'll get someone cool biut at the end of the movie it will prove they're just posing, but actually they're evil...

drummer

August 4th, 2003, 11:40 am

Are there any werewolf directors?

tree guardian

August 4th, 2003, 11:58 am

Exactly. :) And Columbus was Lockhart, in that he didn't know what the hell he was doing.

:lol: Great catch about the HP film's play of musical Directors mirroring the DADA position. I only wonder who is that Director who has coveted the HP director postion dearly, only to be shunted aside for fear of his absolute genius and dedication to the film, as Snape is to his request.

:) Have a good one!

FreyaCrescent

August 4th, 2003, 12:03 pm

Columbus was Lockhart, in that he didn't know what the hell he was doing.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
I can just see him surrounded by winking, smiling pictures of himself in his office. With a wig on the desk :p

I never made that comparison myself, ha.

Kosmic

August 4th, 2003, 1:22 pm

Cuaron is Lupin.

And Lupin was the best DADA teacher so maybe Cuaron will be the best director :D

Gilderoy Lockhart

August 5th, 2003, 12:08 am

They'll need a monster of a director to pull off GoF.

dobby_rocks

August 6th, 2003, 5:25 pm

Im sure theyd like to get Spellberg to do one of the Potter films, seems unlikely but who knows

I didnt think Chris was a bad director, i think he did a fine job, i also read that he would considered returning and directing OOTP

who knows maybe they will hire some new guy , im sure many names will go around before anything is a signed deal

IanB97

August 7th, 2003, 8:11 pm

noooooo...i hope he doesn't turn HP into a sappy love story

SirCadogan

August 10th, 2003, 11:46 am

This (http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1026) just in. I think it's valid because it says it was announced by WB that Mike Newell would be directing GoF. Another interesting point is that they said the productions would overlap, as I hoped they would. Enjoy!

Jedi Potter

August 10th, 2003, 1:56 pm

He sounds like a good choice and look at this way its the first british director to direct one of the HP movies.

vagos

August 10th, 2003, 2:28 pm

what else has he done?

SirCadogan

August 10th, 2003, 3:11 pm

http://us.imdb.com/Name?Newell,+Mike

Lupin Loopy

August 10th, 2003, 3:32 pm

Whilst flicking through the pages of my favourite trashy magazine, Heat (I know, I should be ashamed.....), I found this little snippit of Harry info

Snape83

August 10th, 2003, 3:58 pm

Cuaron is not a major studio guy. In general in american movies producers have a lot to say, and I think Cuaron doesn't like this much. IMO he wanted to try and direct one of those films which will be seen by everyone, but's that's enough for him. I believe he just wants to take on his own projects.

I also think that Tim Burton would be a great director. I haven't read OotP yet, but if it's true that it's the darker book it would be a good option. TB knows how to deal with this things. Just imagine what would have happened if he had directed CoS. If he was let free (something difficult I know), most of the kids would have run out of the theatre ten minutes after the scene where the found the message on the wall. LOL

But I don't think they want such big directors. Big directors are used to having a lot to say about everything. That's what happened with Cuaron I guess.

Dedalus

August 10th, 2003, 4:14 pm

That magazine snippet (well the journalist, obviously) posted by Lupin Loopy is just jumping to conclusions, as many fans have as well. They're not getting a new director in because Cuaron is bad or becuase there have been problems ... he said previously that he never intended to do more than one film, because he says he's lazy (which is fair enough) and it takes a lot out of you to do two in a row (which is why Columbus stopped in the first place), and that he always wanted to film the Prisoner of Azkaban specifically.

I've heard of Mike Newell but have never watched any films directed by him. I hope he's up to it! Though I'm sure he will be fantastic, otherwise he wouldn't have been chosen.

Gilderoy Lockhart

August 10th, 2003, 4:19 pm

Good thought. I haven't seen much of his work....bu I will make a point to!

Gilderoy Lockhart

August 10th, 2003, 4:28 pm

Good thought. I haven't seen much of his work....bu I will make a point to!

Yeah. Aside from that, here is a link confirming that Newell will be directing:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=1026

(I don't think this has been posted yet...if it has....sorry...)

Hannibal "Drax" Lecter

August 10th, 2003, 10:35 pm

They've hired the guy who directed Pushing Tin? Mike Newell will make GoF as great as it should be!

:D

remusjlupin1980

August 10th, 2003, 11:37 pm

I think Four Weddings and a Funeral and Donnie Brasco are excellent films. I'm sure he'll be able to handle the characterizations very well. (I can't wait to see the scene wherein Harry confronts Ron in front of the fireplace just after Harry chats with Sirius) but can he do kicka$$ action sequenes like the dragon and the underwater gillyweed scene?

Jedi Potter

August 10th, 2003, 11:59 pm

Donnie Brasco was an excellent film, I think they made a great choice.

SeniorFishy

August 11th, 2003, 1:17 am

This is excellent news, after the Cuaron thing, I thought that the WB execs had gone a little crazy and were going to ruin my GoF too. But I am thrilled to hear that Mike Newell will lead the directing in the monster that is GoF, I am definately a fan of his. Unfortunate that we had someone like Cuaron be at the helm for my favorite part in the series, but who knows, he may yet surpise me.

thank you Heyman.

XoticRaven

August 11th, 2003, 2:48 am

oh happy day! :clap:

remusjlupin1980

August 11th, 2003, 3:03 am

rotsiepots

August 11th, 2003, 7:27 am

Personally, I don't think I've seen enough of Newell's films for me to make a definitive judgment about him directing GoF. Although I'm rather disappointed Alfonso isn't staying on, I'm intrigued by what this new director will do with GoF. His resume seems so...eclectic, it's difficult to assess whether he's well suited to GoF or not.

What I can say is that I didn't enjoy An Awfully Big Adventure or Pushing Tin very much, however, Mona Lisa Smile looks rather interesting and anyone who works with Richard Curtis is alright by me.

Interesting times. ;)

remusjlupin1980

August 11th, 2003, 8:36 am

I highly recommend you see Four Weddings and a Funeral and Donnie Brasco.

Mad-I Moody

August 11th, 2003, 10:54 am

I think Mike Newell is a very interesting choice, and I think he'll do a fine job. I really enjoyed Four Weddings and a Funeral, and I LOVE Donnie Brasco.

As far as why Cuaron isn't doing GoF -- it's because they want to being filming in April of next year, and Cuaron won't be finished with all of the post-production work on PoA. From CNN.com entertainment news:

The announcement comes as filming is currently underway on the third film in the series -- "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" -- under the direction of helmer Alfonso Cuaron. According to the studio, the production schedules for "Azkaban" and "Goblet" will overlap, making it "infeasible" for the same director to oversee both projects.

rotsiepots

August 12th, 2003, 8:34 am

I highly recommend you see Four Weddings and a Funeral and Donnie Brasco.

I've actually seen both of those. ;)

I was referring to his earlier work, most of which I've never heard of.

I enjoy Richard Curtis' comedies very much.

mugglemagic

November 22nd, 2003, 3:28 pm

RectilinearP

November 22nd, 2003, 10:12 pm

here is some info on GOF and a link to brief info on OotP with projected dates.

It discusses projected time of release and as of 8/03 a signed director. I think there is a link to info on OotP too, but have not looked at it.

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&c...8475609&intl=us

I had to do a search (Yahoo said the link expired?) but there is a guy named Greg who does previews. Most of his info was before OotP came out and he hasn't read all of GOF yet.

His most recent additon:

Warner Bros. has recently announced that they plan a 15-18 month space between each movie...Under that strategy, the tentative release dates for those movies would probably be November, 2008 for movie #6 and Summer, 2010 for movie #7.

Assuming the books get finished in that timeframe.

If the directors keep mimicing the DADA professors I feel sorry for the cast in the fifth movie. Imagine some evil chick telling Alan Rickman to raise his hand!

ginnybatbogeysyou

November 27th, 2003, 4:52 pm

I just saw on imdb.com that Newell has also worked on Traffic, 200 Cigarettes and High Fidelity.

I watched Four weddings and a funeral last night, and I have to compliment him on that. Apparantly, the budget was really small, but the movie didn't look like that. I think that's quite an achievement.
Newell creates a real atmosphere, and according to me, that is what an HP-movie needs.

Indian Blood

January 18th, 2004, 11:52 pm

Alfonso Cuaron tells The Associated Press that some themes in the third film are similar to how the cast is growing into their teens. "Harry goes through a journey where he realizes that demons aren't just things that go bump in the night," Cuaron said, "but also can be painful emotions, worries about family, friends, the future, the monsters that lie within. And that's a classic teenage issue."

Cuaron added that he's also trying to make the film more contemporary with the characters wearing modern clothes under their school cloaks, following the intent of author J.K. Rowling.

Mike Newell, director of Goblet Of Fire tells The Sunday Mail about the fourth film for which he says Warner Bros. will have to pull out its big wallet. "I think of myself as being really lucky. I'm going to make the most expensive film there has ever been” ( £170 million, £5 million more than Return of the King) . “These things are not like ordinary films they are world events."

Newell said the job of directing a Harry Potter film carries huge responsibilities. "I have millions of 10-year-olds who must not be disappointed. Making Harry Potter is like being President of Brazil. It is a colossal undertaking."

He adds that finding an 8 ft tall French woman to play Hagrid's love interest, Madame Maxime, is giving him a major headache. "We are casting right now. I've been in Paris, looking for giant women and French schoolgirls."

That 10 year old comment really made me cringe. i really do hope he doesn't make it to "kiddie". I hope he relises that harry is supposed to be 14, not 10. And i hope he keeps on with the teenage angst that alfonso started off.

rotsiepots

January 19th, 2004, 12:29 am

I'm reassured by the fact that they're casting French women for the roles of Fleur and Madame Maxime. Having an English person faking a French accent would have been too much for me.

I think what Newell was trying to communicate with his "10-year-old" comment was that the majority of the fans of the books are children. He has to appeal to all ages, so he can't make an exclusively adult film. He's just aware of his demographics, that's all. :)

daniel4hp

January 19th, 2004, 2:10 am

That 10 year old comment really made me cringe. i really do hope he doesn't make it to "kiddie". I hope he relises that harry is supposed to be 14, not 10. And i hope he keeps on with the teenage angst that alfonso started off.
I too hope that he doesn't go the "kiddie" route. I don't think he will, but the comment did concern me a bit. But, he didn't say that he would aim it at 10-year-olds, simply he didn't want to disappoint them. :shrug: I'm not to concerned about it right now; I'll wait and see how it shapes up.

Jinxie Cat

January 19th, 2004, 8:04 pm

I do hope he does a good job with the movie. He has $308 million dollars to spend on it afterall! I can't say I've seen any movies that he's directed but I'm not too fearful. Most of the cast seems to be staying the same so that's good to hear.

rotsiepots

June 5th, 2004, 1:12 am

Well, now that most Potter-philes have developed an enthusiasm for Cuaron (and about time too), I thought I'd revivive this thread to gauge how everyone feels about Mike Newell directing GoF.

I said waaay back in August last year that Mona Lisa Smile looked "interesting". Since then I've seen that film, and a few others that Newell has directed and I can't say that I'm terribly enthused about GoF. Mona Lisa Smile was terribly cheesy, and my cheese tolerance is appallingly low.

I don't doubt that Newell could do a good job, so long as he doesn't go down the "plethora of close ups and soaring music" road.

Da_Chinkster

June 5th, 2004, 1:30 am

The story will tell itself, He will have to pick and choose the right parts because I would imagine large chunks will have to be omitted. Hopefully he'll do a good job and direct a brilliant film

rhtruluv

June 5th, 2004, 5:05 pm

Yes lets hope him the best but i think chris columbus was the best director

tyro

June 5th, 2004, 7:33 pm

He will have to pick and choose the right parts because I would imagine large chunks will have to be omitted.
I think you mean the screnplay writer, who writes the film. The director has impetus over the final product, but Kloves will (or already has) decides which parts are the right parts.

Am i the only guy who remembers Newell saying he'd gonna direct it as a thriller? If he sticks to this it'll be wicked. Sorry, I mean wicked for an HP film.

Peeves32

June 5th, 2004, 10:19 pm

come on now, that's a bit harsh. The first two films were wonderful! They really captured the atmosphere of the Potter books. I thought Columbus did a excellent job bringing the books to the screen. He was definitely more true to the books than Cuaron was. The third movie was excellent, but I was disappointed that one of the most poignant scenes in the books thus far was left out. I'm referring to the scene where Prongs returns across the lake and comes to a stop before Harry. Harry reaches out to touch Prongs and Prongs dissappears. This scene really should have been included. That being said, I thought Buckbeak was amazing, the CGI was INCREDIBLE. Buckbeak looked so real!

Stephie

June 5th, 2004, 11:39 pm

Dominor4

June 6th, 2004, 1:46 am

Mike Newell will be fine. The original cast and crew are staying on, and that's the most important thing. The only thing left for Newell to do is say "go". Directors of Harry Potter films have to be good technically, and Mike Newell is. The story and universe are already there for the taking. The worst director would be one that relies on cheap cinematic gimmickry (i.e. music-video style editing, bullet-time, horror movie cliches, etc) to get there point across. Fortunately, Mike Newell is pretty refined technically, even though some of his movies have been considered cheesy or weak.

As for OOTP, I think they should start principal photography summer of 2006 (GOF's principal photography will probably wrap at the beginning of this fall) for a thanksgiving 2007 release date. That would give everyone a long time off so they don't get burnt out, and the actors will be a little over a year older than their characters. Once book 7 comes out, film it and book 6 back to back. The "kids" will probably be about 21 (legally able to work longer hours) at that time, but will still be able to pass for 16, 17 and 18 year olds. I think this would be the best route to go in order to get the most bang for the buck while not wearing everyone out.

Akane

June 7th, 2004, 2:00 am

I don't know but I always pictured Tim Burton directing GoF, maybe because he is a director that likes to do kind of dark stories, I think of him specially on the part at the final challenge of the Tri Wizard Cup, but hey I am not a producer because if I was I will sure have hired him
Akane

RELASHIO Rachel

June 7th, 2004, 2:33 am

I'm partial on him directing this. Mona Lisa Smile was an okay movie, nothing that stood out that much in my mind.. but it's not really Harry Potter Style :/ He's not much fantasy/magical kind of thing.. I was really wishing for Alfonso Cuaron again. I love him and his style of work.

::::EDIT:::: Tim Burton!! I'd love to see him do GoF.. Even OotP. Big Fish *he DID direct Big Fish.. right??* was absolutely marvelous. That'd be pretty interesting to see him do that, he's very dark, magical and mysterious kinda style.

soccergoddess24

June 7th, 2004, 2:36 am

does anyone know a website that has a countdown until the goblet of fire movie comes out? cause i DID know one, but then i lost it...so if you do, could you send me an owl or something? and is krum played by a scottish or bulgarian boy? well i guess we'll know soon! hopefully they wont mess up cedric!!! if they do...ohh there will issues!!!!

TheRealHarry

June 7th, 2004, 3:16 am

herbertsandbach

June 7th, 2004, 7:25 am

I think Newell is ideal for the romance scenes Cho Chang,the Yule Ball,R/Hr but may fluff the suspence/action bits. Mind you they'll be doing so much cramming to fit it all into 1 film that Madame Maxine,Krum,Crouchs,Fleur will probably only have a line of dialogue each. I am trying desperately to try and forget the book its the only way there's a chance of enjoying the film. I wouldn't be surprised if Bagman is dropped as he's not essential to the plot (I wouldn't be that bothered to be honest either he's not a favourite of mine.)

SilverStar

June 7th, 2004, 8:09 am

Grrrrr I know he won't do as well as Al. But I guess we'll see.

Scoop33

June 16th, 2004, 8:30 am

Does anybody have a list of the games that Mike Newell has directed?

tctfchamp

June 16th, 2004, 8:39 am

look for my thread in dividations. who should direct the next Harry Potter films and why they should stop butchering the books. i think Pete Jackson should dirct a Potter film or two.

LumosSoleil

June 18th, 2004, 12:29 am

Well, in PoA, the tone and color is dark and grainy, which fits its mood perfectly since it was a darker book. But in GoF, I get a warm glowy feeling when I read it, much like the feeling I get when I read SS (minus the final drak moments). So hopefully, we return to the welcoming warm glow we got from the first 2 movies but in a mature tone. This book I have to say was one of the most fun I had when reading. So hopefully I get that fun feel when I watch the movie. Of course, I have to add that the ratings should be upped to pg-13 for possibly violence, gore, graphic images, and maybe some language (if they up it).

Sharpel007

June 18th, 2004, 4:27 am

Well if we forget Mona Lisa Smile(which i think he only did to get a paycheck) I think Newell will be fine. Four Weddings and Funeral is a classic, and in Donnie Brascoe he got a diffrent preformance from an actor who is quitelocked into certain roles, the great Al Pacino.

Him being british is a bonus, and his "classic thriller" comments reassure me, he also mentioned the level Cuaron has brought to the series which I will post shortly

OoTP,apparently Terry Gilliam was at the premier of POA, we can only hope

Sharpel007

June 18th, 2004, 4:35 am

He sees Goblet as "an absolute classic thriller. At the beginning, the antagonist, the anti-hero, the creature of supreme evil has a plan. He needs one tiny, tiny little thing from the boy: three drops of blood. Therefore he sets up this gorgeous piece of clockwork which will get him what he needs. And the boy, classically, starts, as all thriller heroes do, in complete ignorance, and then you watch him ratchet around until and he and the antagonist are in exactly the same place at the same time, knowing everything." Asked if there is one section of the book that, as a filmmaker, is especially irresistible for him to tackle, he is very clear and excited. "Yeah, the big denouement, the big shootout at the end is very exciting, not least because the antagonist starts as a kind of horrible foetus wrapped up in a bundle of rags and has to become this great looming presence. You have to transform it."

From dark horizons

"Mike Newell has told us that he has spoken with Alfonso Cuarón, director of the upcoming third film, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, to make sure his film picks up where Cuarón's leaves off.
"What Alfonso has done very remarkably is he's developed the films from a sunny vision of childhood into something that is much darker and blacker," Newell said. "And he's done that without taking away any of the romance of the thing. But he has transformed it into adolescence, and I must go on from what he's done. [I] can't go back."

from scifi wire

LumosSoleil

June 18th, 2004, 9:41 am

Well, when I first heard Mike Newell was hired to direct GoF, I just thought that was the worst thing they could do. But I could be wrong. For some strange reason, I'm beginning to think he may do an acceptable job. Let's just hope he doesn't throw away the climax or the buildup of it. PoA was good, but the buildup of the climax and the climax itself was no where to be found. I didn't feel the anticipation of what's to come as things were happening. Nothing unraveled in PoA. Even though I already know the plot for GoF, I sincerely hope he does a good job with the tension and climax of the film. I think that the way PoA was edited would suit GoF more. I mean, you don't really feel much tension or buildup of plot in GoF like you do for PoA until the very last few chapters. Not like GoF was an anticlimatic book, it just have less rising plot.