Hermione's Parents

[Sureal]

Has anyone else realised that we seem to know alot about other character's families, but not that much about Hermione's, xcept that her parents are dentists? Do you think we'll find out about the rest of them in the other books? or has JK done that on purpose, coz she cunning like that!!

[Sureal]

And also, Haermione is one of Harry's best friends, so dnt u think we should no by now? Like we do about Ron's?

[dobby_rocks]

JK said that we proabably wouldnt see her parents much, except for a breif moments some which we have already seen, such at the end of book 5 at the trian station, in book 2 they were at Diagon alley.

but she said their denist so they not to exciting, i have to assume she is an only child

[cordeliablack13]

They are Muggles, so I can't see what they would really have to offer the stories.

[Sureal]

Yeah, i suppose so, but I'd still like to know more about her family life. do u think she's an only child?

[cordeliablack13]

I think she is an only child. It seems like she would have mentioned a brother or sister.

[Hammi]

Did anyone else notice how much time Hermione doesn't spend with her parents? I mean She left home early in GOF to go to the Weasleys for the Cup. Then she speant the holdiday at school for the ball. Then the summer in OOTP was speant entirely at head quarters. She then also ditched them on the ski trip. It just strikes me odd how she doesn't want to spend atleast some time with them. I don't think its really important, its just probaly JK's way to keep her in the stories, but well, still.

[cordeliablack13]

I didn't want to hang out with my parents when I was 14. I would have done anything to be able to hang out with a family like the Weasleys.

[Hammi]

I'm not saying that I would like to spend every waking moment with them, but if I haven't seen my parents in a year, I would at least want to spend a little time with them.

[Raven]

She was also at Hogwarts for all of PoA's X-mas.

So with the exception of two weeks during the Summer Holiday between PoA, and GoF, Hermione has been away from her parents for the better part of two and a half years.

I'm surprised her parents don't tell her that she has to stay home for a while before they forget what she looks like.

[GreenEyedMonster]

her parents feel bad because she was probably considered a bit of a geek in the muggle world and didnt have any friends, so they are willing to let her stay where she feels she belongs. i think they are glad that she has friends, so they are willing ot let her sped time with them. though they must be awfully lonely with her being their only child...

[A_Reck]

Heres my idea on Hermiones family. I know this doesnt make any sence at first but just go with me here. I think that Hermione is the heir of gryffindor. (I know that makes no sence because her parents but just listen) I think long ago, her family was a wizarding family, and shared blood with Gryffindor. Then her, say, great great grandma was a squib. She married a muggle and had a muggle (her great grama) She married and muggle and had a muggle (her grama) (etc.) Until we get to Hermione, who turned out to be a witch. She still has gryffindors blood, even though her parents are muggles. This just seems like something JK would do, but Im not sure. :)

[slytherina_04]

I just wonder what do Hermione's parents tell people
? They cant possibly tell people she goes to Hogwarts! Maybe they make up a lie, like the Dursley's tell people Harry is at St.Brutus's ... Hmmm

[Prof.Blink]

talking of the dursleys, wouldn't it be nice if they met hermoine's parents properly. they would obviously have loads in common since they're all muggles and vernon can't exactly stick his nose down to a family of dentists can he? maybe they could have a nice long chat and talk about having a wizard in the family. hopefully they would understand that is not such a bad thing! i know that it would certainly make harry's life easier if the dursleys thought that wizards aren't that bad after all.

yeah... i know its wishful thinking but i think its about time harry got a break. if he's not fighting with voldermort, he's being starved by the dursleys or being harassed by the snape and the slytherins.

i can't help but feel sorry for him!!!!!

[cordeliablack13]

I agree with greeneyedmonster! Hermione would probably be considered a nerd in a regular school.

[Buckbeak]

maybe Hermione's got a petunia-like sibling, one who hates magic so Hermione doesn't talk about them. but yes granted id expect Harry and Ron to have heard about them if she did. so ignore this theory.

[cordeliablack13]

Hello Buckbeak, I guess we're flatmates! :lol:

I think Hermione has some magic in her family somewhere, just so distant she doesn't know about them.

[Raven]

You're probably right...I mean the genes that determine whether or not somebody is a witch or a wizard would have to come from somewhere.

[Padfootsnuffles]

I just thought about something. Is it only a coincidence or ...

Harry's parents died and he was "given" to muggles ( Dursleys ). Do you think that Hermione's parents also died at the hands of Voldemort or his partisans.

We don't know very much about Hermione's parents except that they are dentists.

How can a "gifted" girl like Hermione with a brain like a supercomputer be of muggle origin?????

Harry has muggle parents ( WORST QUALITY!!! ) as well as Hermione. Can they be brother and sister??? Explaining why rommance cannot take place between the two??? ( Okey, I know she is not a Potter but what do you say about my ideas??? )

[Fortescue]

Harry doesn't have muggle parents. We know for a fact that James Potter was a wizard and Lily Potter was a witch.

[Kizz]

There's already a thread discussing this: it's in the Great Hall: Lily had 2 kids (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=1838)

Please use the search (http://www.cosforums.com/search.php) function when unsure a topic is being discussed.

Enjoy posting ;)

[Padfootsnuffles]

sorry, i was quite lazy about searching. Harry has actual muggle surrogate parents!

[Cat]

Your parentage has nothing to do with your mind and skill. You can't honestly believe that, surely.

[Cheetah]

"How can a "gifted" girl like Hermione with a brain like a supercomputer be of muggle origin?????"


Said like a true Slytherin. But really, that is quite silly, For example Nevills pere34nts were a powerfull witch and wizard, and look at him. Parentage doesnt' have much say in that matter.

[Kizz]

For example Nevills pere34nts were a powerfull witch and wizard, and look at him. Parentage doesnt' have much say in that matter.

That hasn't been decided yet - Hagrid expects Harry to be a great wizard like his dad, but I took that more as an unfounded optimistic expression.

[Lord Thingy]

There does tend to be some genetic tendency toward intelligence... two highly intelligent parents are more likely to have highly intelligent children, and the converse is alto true.

But more likely doesn't mean anything is certain about it. Muggles give birth to powerful wizards, powerful wizards give birth to squibs, unintelligent people give birth to geniuses, and geniuses give birth to average/below average minds.

Also, Hermione's parents are both dentists, and becoming a doctor or dentist isn't exactly the career path of the benightedly dim. Hermione's intelligence, I think, can be related to her parents' demonstrated abilities. Her wizarding prowess is just another example that it's still chance and fate that determine our innate tendency toward certain skills and abilities.

[jimmifer]

Very well put Lord Thingy - the only thing i can add in reply to Cheetah (and im not being critical here :) just stating my own opinion) is that Nevilles circumstances have to be taken into consideration, hes had a lot of trauma in his life, poor thing. hes definitely shown talent and i think he will do more so when he finally has his own wand! :)

[NiCk RiDdLe]

"How can a "gifted" girl like Hermione with a brain like a supercomputer be of muggle origin?????"


Said like a true Slytherin. But really, that is quite silly, For example Nevills pere34nts were a powerfull witch and wizard, and look at him. Parentage doesnt' have much say in that matter.

but also Neville doesn't have his own wand. and his full potential hasn't been brought out yet. in the end i bet he'll probably help harry defeat voldy.

[Kerbox]

"There does tend to be some genetic tendency toward intelligence... two highly intelligent parents are more likely to have highly intelligent children, and the converse is alto true."

That is circumstancial and proves nothing on the subject of genetics and intellegence. What child do you suppose will be most intellegent, a child brought up in an environment of intellegence, or a child brought up in an environment of stupidity? That you jumped straight to the "genetic" explaination is the mark of a true slytherin indeed. Genes only make the buildingblocks (the neurones) of the mind, but its the environment that put them together.

[Mafic]

I just thought about something. Is it only a coincidence or ...

Harry's parents died and he was "given" to muggles ( Dursleys ). Do you think that Hermione's parents also died at the hands of Voldemort or his partisans.

We don't know very much about Hermione's parents except that they are dentists.

How can a "gifted" girl like Hermione with a brain like a supercomputer be of muggle origin?????

Harry has muggle parents ( WORST QUALITY!!! ) as well as Hermione. Can they be brother and sister??? Explaining why rommance cannot take place between the two??? ( Okey, I know she is not a Potter but what do you say about my ideas??? )

What is with this recent resurgence of harry & harmione as brother and sister theory. Have you never seen Star Wars? Do you honestly think that JKR would do something like that. She already said when asked if Volde was going to be Harry's father, that she thought that would be a little too much like Star Wars.

[Dedalus]

That was rather Draco-Malfoy-ish logic. Why would having Muggle parents hinder her ability as a witch? Isn't it stressed often in the books that it matters not where you come from, but who you are yourself? And even if not, having Muggle parents doesn't mean she's going to be born stupid, as obviously not all Muggles are. She could have got her cleverness from her parents, Muggle or not, or else just good upbringing or a personal knack for learning.

[sophieke]

I am not sure about this. I mean, Hermione's parents must be very smart to become dentists, therefore if you count the genetics, Hermione should be very smart at anything that she wants to do.

[Lord Thingy]

"There does tend to be some genetic tendency toward intelligence... two highly intelligent parents are more likely to have highly intelligent children, and the converse is alto true."

That is circumstancial and proves nothing on the subject of genetics and intellegence. What child do you suppose will be most intellegent, a child brought up in an environment of intellegence, or a child brought up in an environment of stupidity? That you jumped straight to the "genetic" explaination is the mark of a true slytherin indeed. Genes only make the buildingblocks (the neurones) of the mind, but its the environment that put them together.

I'm actually not a Slytherin, and am speaking of a known genetic component for intelligence, which is that identical twins, separated from each other and their biological parents by adoption, display a very strong correlation of intelligence to each other, regardless of the environment in which they were raised. This is a strong implication for the influence of genetics in their capabilities. However, capability does not correlate to progress or results.

Furthermore, and I thought I covered it in my disclaimer about more likely, I am firmly of the nature AND nurture argument. An "environment of intelligence" versus an "environment of stupidity" is an ambiguous dodge to the question. A highly intelligent child in, as you put it, an "environment of stupidity" does not decrease the speed or facility with which the child aggregates and synthesizes information from their environment. The intelligence is there, even if it is not being honed and exercised.

Intelligence is not a purely genetic issue, neither is it a purely environmental issue. Both have strong influences, and make the difference between, metaphorically, a 500 horsepower engine used for a race-car, or the same engine sitting idle and rusting.

So I do think that there's something to the fact that Hermione's intelligence can be related to her parents', both from a potential genetic factor and from the fact that, her parents being highly educated professionals, surely provided her with an environment in which her aptitude could be expressed to its full potential.

And I also guess it may be apparent by now that I'm much more a Ravenclaw than anything else. :)

[Arissya_00]

I really doubt this theory. Things like this only happen in fan fiction. Though your genetics do have something to do with your intelligence, Hermione's parents aren't stupid. They are dentists. And when you say, how can Hermione be of muggle origin when she is so smart, that is quite insulting. I mean, there are 10 year olds who go to college!!! There are so many people with the IQ of 190 and they don't need magic to help them. Besides, who ever said romance can never take between the two? Though I am rooting for more of a Ron/Hermione romance, no one ever said romance cannot ever take place between the two. This theory is quite far-fetched and Star Wars-like.

[MadMagic]

I really don't think that Hermione's parents are dead. Her parents are dentists. She is a muggle born witch. Just because she is a muggle born doesn't mean that she can't be a great witch.

[Moonstone]

The whole point of Hermione's parents being ordinary Muggle dentists is for the author to demonstrate that it is not important whether one is pure-blood, half-blood or muggle-born. Lily was also a powerful and talented witch, and she too is described as muggle-born.

[sindatur]

Also, I have come to believe that the average witch/wizard is not as intelligent as the average muggle, because wizzards rely upon magic and do not neccessarily have alot of common sense (from Arthur Weasley for one). So, in my mind, the more intelligent Hermione is, I believe is a stronger argument for both the genetic argument and the environment argument that Hermiones Muggle parents gave birth to and raised Hermione.

[jasper]

"There does tend to be some genetic tendency toward intelligence... two highly intelligent parents are more likely to have highly intelligent children, and the converse is alto true."

That is circumstancial and proves nothing on the subject of genetics and intellegence. What child do you suppose will be most intellegent, a child brought up in an environment of intellegence, or a child brought up in an environment of stupidity? That you jumped straight to the "genetic" explaination is the mark of a true slytherin indeed. Genes only make the buildingblocks (the neurones) of the mind, but its the environment that put them together.

I know a couple of extremely bright kids who's mom unfortunately completely fits the category of stupid. Just anecdotal.

But anyway, this thread- is it slamming muggles or is it slamming dentists? Why wouldn't they be able to broduce a bright child? And bright as she is, Hermione would have figured out if she was adopted. Would JKR pass up the opportunity to show that not all muggles, adoptive parents and dentists are bad?

[Stncold]

What is with this recent resurgence of harry & harmione as brother and sister theory. Have you never seen Star Wars? Do you honestly think that JKR would do something like that. She already said when asked if Volde was going to be Harry's father, that she thought that would be a little too much like Star Wars.


amen to that, i dont think JKR would ever do something like that, plus it goes totally against my sig.

[kittykat]

Also, I have come to believe that the average witch/wizard is not as intelligent as the average muggle, because wizzards rely upon magic and do not neccessarily have alot of common sense (from Arthur Weasley for one). So, in my mind, the more intelligent Hermione is, I believe is a stronger argument for both the genetic argument and the environment argument that Hermiones Muggle parents gave birth to and raised Hermione.

Well, I'd have to disagree with you there. Muggles might not have magic but these days modern convieneces make life much easier. So really, muggles rely on modern conviences just as much as wizards rely on magic. And don't forget that it takes a few seconds to work out how a remote control works or how to set a microwave but studying magic can take alot of skill. Not even fully-grown component wizards can apparate or produce a patronus. And muggles don't need to know how a thing works, just how to use it. Also, it may appear that alot of witches and wizards don't have alot of common sense but that's because we are looking in from our world. I'm quite sure that alot of the magical community think that muggles have no common sense.

As for the dabate about Hermoine and her heritage, I'm quite certain that Hermoine is muggle-born and her parents are simply dentists. And whoever said dentist's are stupid? It's not as easy as it looks and it takes quite a few years to become one. Another thing, a person's IQ doesn't guarantee anything. It is what you do with your life that matters. There are plenty of people who have extremely high IQ's that never amount to anything. It's your actions that count, not how you score on a stupid test.

[HannahStarr]

Why does everyone keep saying that Harry and Hermione are related? This isn't Star Wars, Harry and Hermione aren't Luke and Leia. So no, I doubt it. Also, just because you have "a bain like a supercomputer" doesn't automatically mean that you have wizarding parents.

[HPviolinist85]

It really doesn't seem that Hermione is close to her parents at all. She is hardly ever with them. She must have found out SOMETHING because in her first year, she went to them on Christmas, her second, she was with them in Diagon Alley and only met up with Harry and Ron before the year started and she went on vacation with them to France before her third year. She seemed to stop going home or being home as often from the Quiddich cup. I think there is a deeper reason other than loyalty to her best friends. She didn't go home for Christmas during her fourth year, and that is the holiday that one usually wants to spend with their families. She spent THE WHOLE summer (or what seemed like the whole summer) at Grimmauld place. All she did was send an OWL to her parents telling them that she is a prefect. No other mentioned contact. Most parents are upset about when they can't see their children. I don't think she likes them very much. Harry, never talked to them EVER. There is deffinitely something fishy about this situation. I think Hermione has a secret that has to do with her home life and it got started when she was in fourth year. What does everyone think about that?

[rotsiepots]

On the contrary, I think Hermione spends ample time with her parents. She holidayed with them in France in PoA and sent them notification of her Prefect status almost immediately (I'm assuming they would have been very chuffed at her achievement) in OotP. Similarly, the Grangers attempt to understand the Magical World by coming into Diagon Alley with Hermione to purchase her school things.

Just because she doesn't spend massive amounts of time with them doesn't mean she doesn't care for them. They probably understand that her loyalties are with the Magical World and not stuck with them in the Muggle World.

[jasper]

Well, 4th year nobody went home for Christmas because of the Yule Ball. By 5th year she was staying in th wizard world as much as possible to be on the spot to fight against Voldemort and support Harry and Ron and Ginny.

I don't think there's anything wrong with her homelife. JKR just made her parents rather nondiscript, non-important slightly boring dentists.

[Alastor D]

It seems to me that the relation between Hermione and her parents is one of mutual trust. I don't see anything suspicious in that.

[Prof.Aze]

How could they be dead?

I mean who have known Hermione's parents? They are muggle and living in a muggle world full of muggle people. They don't seemed to be special for the death eaters to pay a visit in the dead of the night and use the avada kedavra on them. I don't really see it coming. They are just innocent dentists.

And Hermione hasn't really done anything to the death eaters that would make her a target for punishment from them.

[Weatherby]

I agree that Hermione has a healthy relationship with her parents from what we know. She seems really grounded and sweet.
She can spend a Christmas or two away from them to be with her friends when they need her. They aren't dead. They just don't fit into the main story arc the way Ron's parents do.

[phoenixsong]

I see no evidence that Harry and Hermione are related. They don't really have much in common at all, other than that they are both magical. But if that's the criteria, then any other child at Hogwarts could secretly be Harry's twin, separated at birth.

I think Hermione and her parents have a normal relationship, perhaps even better than some. I know that when I was a teenager, I would have taken any opportunity not to spend time with my parents!

However, I disagree that there is no reason for Hermione's parents to be tortured. We have been told on more than one occasion that Lucius Malfoy enjoys a "spot of Muggle torture" and we know that he is aware of the existence of the Grangers, having seen them in Diagon Alley. If and when things heat up with the war against Voldemort, and we start seeing muggle tortures and killings, then it is possible that the Grangers could be singled out by Malfoy.

[RedCape]

Reasons why Harry and Hermoine are not siblings:


Hermoine would have to have been put up for adoption and her birthday changed!
As other people mentioned, JKR would avoid a rip-off of the Star Wars plot.
Harry and Hermoine don't look the least bit alike.
What plot reason would there be that would need Harry and Hermoine to be siblings?



Hermoine could be adopted and not related to Harry. Her parents aren't physically described at all (I just checked the Diagon Alley scene in CoS), so we don't know if there is any family resemblance. JKR did say though that they were dentists and muggles so not very exciting, so that's probably why they aren't described.

[MadMagic]

I highly doubt Hermione is adopted. There isn't really any reason for it. I think that she is mearly a very dedicated witch who excels at witchcraft. Her sucess is characteristic of what the good people are fighting Voldemort for. You can be a muggle born and still be a great witch/wizard, as Hermione proves daily.

[HannahStarr]

Agreed, MadMagic. Hermione is proof that Muggle-born children are just as good at magic - if not better - than Purebloods.

[Lily Evans]

I'll justify that JKR would not throw something like that at Harry in the books after all he's been through. A loved one died, Hermione and Ron almost died, she wouldn't put Harry though that... :lol: :lol: :lol: :tu:

[Zachary1993]

Hermione probably had other relatives that were witches and wizards like an aunt or uncle. Her parents probably did not mind that she was a witch they acceped past family members who were witches and wizards so Hermione could learn how to be a witch even though whe was with muggle parents because it states that her parents are alive. It even tells where they work.

[Mulan]

Yes, it´s a little strange that we havent gotten more information about Hermione´s parents.

How can a "gifted" girl like Hermione with a brain like a supercomputer be of muggle origin?????

I dont think so, but if Hermione were somebody special or about to do something big, I think we would know it by now.


Harry has muggle parents ( WORST QUALITY!!! ) as well as Hermione. Can they be brother and sister??? Explaining why rommance cannot take place between the two???

I dont think there has been officially stated that no romance can happen between them. I hasnt happen because maybe they havent realized it or because they´re not meant for each other (which I think they are, btw). But I dont think they are brother and sister. Harry & Hermione are that kind of friends that have a lot in common are care for the other.

Mulan ;)

[hesdead-dealwithit]

Actually, JKR specifically said that Harry and Hermione will not go on a date.

But let's leave that to the shippers. :D

[Violet Tonks]

I suspect that the Grangers are rich. To afford Hermione's reading habits, they would have to be. I'm also worried about them, Lucius Malfoy probably has killing them on his to-do list. The theory of Harry and Hermione being related isn't impossible, but them being bro/sis is. It would be interesting if some of the other Muggle borns at Hogwarts are related like the purebloods are.

Btw, Muggles can very well have supercomputer brains, I'm related to a bunch of them.

[Pumpkin Juice]

A little off topic, but it seems like Hermione has no parents. In the first couple books, she went home for Christmas, but not anymore. At the beginning of book 4, she chose to spend the summer, or much of the summer with the Weasley's so she could go to the tournament. In book 5, she spent the summer with the Order. I don't know, it just seems unusual if her parents really loved her, that they'd be okay with her not coming home for Christmas and summer. Kids are only kids for a short time and once their grown, their parents can never get that time back. So what has happened to her parents?

[dobby_rocks]

Surely Hermione would have been told if she was adopted, maybe her parents are bright and just wanted to be denists cause thats what they like to do.

[gabby]

I don't think that Harry and Hermione are related. I don't see the point of making them related in the story.

I don't think she was adopted either. One of the themes in the books are wizards that are not accepting of muggles and think they are superior to them vs. the wizards that are accepting of all. The books have a theme of tolerance. Hermione shows us that you can be just as good with magic whether or not you are muggle born.

[padfootgrim]

i dont think harry and hermione are related either... thats too star wars...

however, how was she allowed to spend the whole summer with the Weasleys?... i mean she practically did not see her parents for a year... wouldn't her parents miss their child and make her go home for at least a month? I have a feeling that there is something about hermione's parents or her family that we dont know...

[Grapez]

I'm sorry, but why does everyone see Hermione as "very bright"? She just studies a lot, and reads a lot of books; that makes her look smart. I'm not saying she's stupid, just she's not brilliant.

[Pumpkin Juice]

I think bright and brilliant are two very different things. But I'm curious Grapez, if you don't think Hermione can be classified as "bright" then what are the requirements which makes a person bright?

Usually bright goes along with the word intelligent and there's no question, Hermione is highly intelligent and she's that way because she's devoted to learning everything she can. But she's also very bright in that she usually figures things out. She was the one who figured out, for example, that the monster was a basalisk and was using the pipes to get around. She also seems to be the best of the trio at reading people. She was also the only one who figured out Lupin's secret long before it was revealed in the the shrieking shack.

[Grapez]

Alright, that's true..
Maybe I'm just a bit biased against her, because I think she's really an insufferable know-it-all, sometimes :D

[grawp66]

How can a "gifted" girl like Hermione with a brain like a supercomputer be of muggle origin?????

You don't honestly beleive that, do you? Purity of blood, as was stated by many of the wiser characters in the series, has nothing to do with one's ability. Look at Ron - he's got plenty of wonderful qualities, but he's not exactly the greatest of wizards, talentwise. And he's pureblood. I don't know if I understood you correctly, but I'd think you'd know by now that the major point JK is trying to bring across in her books is that you choose who you will become - your blood does not choose for you. :no:

I agree wholeheartedly with MadMagic! Muggleborns can be jsut as good as Purebloods!


Harry has muggle parents ( WORST QUALITY!!! ) as well as Hermione. Can they be brother and sister??? Explaining why rommance cannot take place between the two??? ( Okey, I know she is not a Potter but what do you say about my ideas??? )

(1) Harry doesn't have muggle parents.

(2) What do you mean by "WORST QUALITY?" Not all muggles are like the Dursleys, and there's nothing wrong with being muggleborn. You really do sound like a Slytherin.

(3) Sorry, but there's no evidence in the series to support this theory, except for a few minor things that were the result of over-anylyzing. Whoever said it sounds like it belongs in fanfiction was right.

Sorry if I rambled or sounded mean. I'm just trying to make a point. :)

[GryffindorSeeker]

I'm agree. Hermione's parents are alive and well... and in custody of her. She and Harry aren't siblings, reasons have been stated above. There isn't anything pointing to this that I can see, and there's loads pointing against it. Not only would it change the plot completely, it's too late to do that!

[Pumpkin Juice]

I think it would be an enormous undertaking to try and make the idea of Hermione and Harry being siblings a reality in the books. Given that Rowling has chosen to make her two months younger than Harry (which I've read in different places) the most likely excuses would be that she's his twin sister but to distance the idea that they were twins, created false documents of what day she was born to a couple months later. Although if the date of her birth has never been published, I guess Rowling could change her mind.

But then she'd have a whole bunch of other things to explain. Such as...

1. Where was Hermione the night of the attack? Clearly the Potter's were not expecting it and thought they were safe so there's no logical reason that she wouldn't have been there.

2. Having been there that night, how did she survive? (That would be the easiest to explain I think.)

Once overcoming those two obstacles...

3. Why were they seperated and Hermione sent to live with an unrelated set of muggle parents when the spell Dumbledore cast to protect Harry under the Dursley's roof would make it the only place where Hermione could be safe as well? Living with the Dursley's would have kept her safe, living with a muggle family would have put her in more danger than living with a wizarding family.

4. Voldemort would have known he didn't kill her that night. So it stands to reason that she would become a likely target for him as well. And thus far, we've seen no added measures of protection for her like we have for Harry.

5. If Hermione's parents are dead, why hasn't that been said yet? That would be a major life-shattering event for Hermione and big enough for Rowling to write into the story. It's absence so far implies they are still both very much alive and well, as when Hermione gets to be prefect, she says she's going to tell her parents or something like that.

Really, it wouldn't make sense for Dumbledore to have seperated them because Hermione would never be safe except in the Dursley's house.

And as someone mentioned, she doesn't look like Harry. The description of her doesn't fit at all with Harry, James, or Lily. And it seems thus far, Rowling describes family members as looking similar in appearance. All the Weasley's have red hair, Draco and his dad both have blond hair, Harry looks every bit like his dad except for his eyes. If Hermione were James and Lily's daughter, the description of her appearance would somehow match Lily and James, but it doesn't. Unless you want to say she seems to have as much trouble with her hair as poor Harry and James. :p

[ErickGama]

I really don't think that Hermione's parents are dead. Her parents are dentists. She is a muggle born witch. Just because she is a muggle born doesn't mean that she can't be a great witch.

Good point there MadMagic! I also don't think that just because you are pure blood, you should be perfect. Like Draco is a pure blood and he is not as perfect as Hermione is! And if she was a pure blood somebody could have already told her!

[mirandam]

I don't think it matters whether you are a muggle born or a pure blood. Wasn't Lily a great witch that we know of and her parents were muggles? The brother/sister thing not logical at all. The fact that Hermione doesn't spend a lot of time with her parents doesn't mean anything. Her parents are in fact dentist and I am sure like any doctor they put in long hours daily. They may not be able to be there for her as much as they would like so they let her be with others. Why make her sit at home when they are working all the time. Which may have something to do with her love of books, maybe that is all she had for company at home.

[UselessCharmMaster]

Seeing the title, I've thought this thread is about the possibility of the Grangers' death. O_O

You can be a perfect witch being a Muggleborn.

[Godrics_Heiress]

Seeing the title, I've thought this thread is about the possibility of the Grangers' death. O_O
Me either!


You can be a perfect witch being a Muggleborn..
Yup! With regards to the sibling theory, although we know that JKR can possibly pull off a plot like that, whether you like or not people are going to want to accuse her of replicating the Star Wars idea. I really can't see JKR going in this direction---this is me talking without the "shippy" side, of course.

[silvercJD4]

I believe that I read somewhere in another post or maybe an interview that JK had planned to make Hermione the older of two children, and have her a younger sister. However, she said that she hadn't ever mentioned her in the first 5 books, so she wouldn't feel good about springing it all up at once. So, I guess Hermione is officially an only child.

[blackforest]

Yes, this is true, but I'm thinking. Until teh fifth book, we always thought that the old ladu Harry goes to see in the summer was just a smelly old muggle, but in fact she's a smelly old squib! lol
My point is, we also don't know how close Hermione lives to Harry. It can always be that Hermione's parents were wizards, but are now to protect Harry. It can be a protection thing, you know. Because why did Hermione's parents enter Diagon Alley? Can any muggle with a witch or wizard in their family just go into Diagon Alley so as they wish? Hmm...

[Dagmar]

I believe that I read somewhere in another post or maybe an interview that JK had planned to make Hermione the older of two children, and have her a younger sister. However, she said that she hadn't ever mentioned her in the first 5 books, so she wouldn't feel good about springing it all up at once. So, I guess Hermione is officially an only child.
Yes I think it would have been interesting if her sister would not have been a witch. This would draw another parallel between Hermione and Lilly Potter.

[eowiodith]

maybe hermione uses the time turner to spend more time with her parents, or she has a way of communicateing with them e.g. a mirror type of thing. I would miss my parents very badly even if I was only away from them for a month.

[lornamalfoy]

I think JK might bring Hermiones parents in to the story later on somehow. I have in the apst thought it weird that nothing is mentione dof her parents and homelife except that there muggles and dentists!!! Seeing as Harry grew up as a "muggle" and Hermione did too, shouldn't the Grangers at least have asked him to their house and will he ever visit her in future books seeing as he has bin to rons????

[Larry Potter]

I mean, especially on what's happening in the books. I mean Hermione gets home after year 5, you think she'd be talking to her parents about everything. I dont think ts HUGELY important, but I think it would be nice. I mean Its just more to read! haha.

[PaDfOoT5]

I just think that because they are muggles and do not know much about the wizarding world, they aren't that interesting and would not really effect the story which is why JK doesnt bring them in too much.

[lornamalfoy]

yer i suppose but i would like to see how her parents react to three teenage wizards in the house!!!!!

[Marix]

I just think that because they are muggles and do not know much about the wizarding world, they aren't that interesting and would not really effect the story which is why JK doesnt bring them in too much.

I agree whit you.I mean way does everybody has to be related to everybody or be a squib or a secret wizard,maybe hermione's parents are just muggles and that's it.

[shelbell32]

My point is, we also don't know how close Hermione lives to Harry. It can always be that Hermione's parents were wizards, but are now to protect Harry. It can be a protection thing, you know. Because why did Hermione's parents enter Diagon Alley? Can any muggle with a witch or wizard in their family just go into Diagon Alley so as they wish? Hmm...


It's curious about how her parents are able to enter Diagon Alley. I mean how did they know where it was or even how to manipulate the wall? Did they get directions from Hermione's Hogwarts acceptance letter?

Plus she isn't the only witch in the school with muggle parents. How did all of them get in to get their school supplies?

I really don't think her parents are wizards or even used to be. I remember Hermione asking Harry to borrow Hedwig so she could tell her parents about her becoming a prefect in Ootp. She says something like this: "This is something they can understand."

[angel spirit]

I think a fidelus-like charm is placed on Diagon Alley, if you are magical then you can see it and if you point it out to someone they can see it too. Then someone will show you how to get in. They probably have a Hagrid-like person show them where it is or give directions on the acceptance letter but since Harry had Hagrid right there JK didn't include them.

I think Hermione's parents aren't relative because Harry already knows what muggles are like. The Weasleys are elaborated on more because they're quirky wizards.

[Rattan]

At least you know they want be kicking the bucket.
Her folks probably got some help into Diagon ally.
As for the lack of time Hermione spends with her parents, Hermione's parents are probably very busy with their work so there probably wasn't much time they can spend with her anyway. Hence why they tend to go on trips when they are together, or why Hermione was more into books than people at first. But thats something else. I guess.

[blackforest]

That's all an excellent point.

It must be awfully weird for her parents. She goes off to a boarding school for magic, something that to most Muggles deny ever existing, and when she comes home from summer or tries to explain what her grades are or what is going on in her life, I'm sure it's got to be something like sending your child to a new school in a new country or something. Patience has to be important in that household!

[trekkie450]

Hammi
Did anyone else notice how much time Hermione doesn't spend with her parents? ...... It just strikes me odd how she doesn't want to spend atleast some time with them. I don't think its really important, its just probaly JK's way to keep her in the stories, but well, still.
Its summer now and i just got back from college, i missed my parents and liked being home, for the week. Since then i couldnt wait to be back into a dorm room or an appartment.

[DayVirgo]

I think Hermione's lack of time spent with her parents is just illustrating her growing up. She's become more independent. I'm 19 and yeah, I spend some time with my parents, but not as much as I did when I was a kid. There comes a time when you just want to do your own thing. Hermione is getting to that point quicker.

I also would like to say I don't think her parents are dead (or were killed and used to be wizards). Although the possibility of her parents being axed by Malfoy is a strong possibility.

[grrliz]

Still, though, she seemed to spend the entire summer between GoF and OotP at 12 Grimmauld Place. You'd think her parents would want her at home instead of at the heaquarters of the Anti-Voldemort Defense League, you know? Ron has to be there becaues his family is in the Order, and Harry has to be there during August because of his dementor attack, but there's really no reason for Hermione to be there. She stays with the Weasleys at the start of GoF for a few days, but that's only because of the Quidditch World Cup. Otherwise, she's only ever in the wizarding world for a few days before school starts. I'm all about Hermione asserting her independence, but it seems a little extreme.

[Heebie Jeebies]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Grangers ended up at the Burrow at some point. Their importance in relation to the stories seems to be a consequential one at best, and even I was disappointed that JK decided to scrap the idea of giving Hermione a sister. With that said, I'm sure we'll be more formally introduced to the Grangers because the Weasley's seem to be on good terms with them.

[Prof.Blink]

Has anyone else realised that we seem to know alot about other character's families, but not that much about Hermione's, except that her parents are dentists? Do you think we'll find out about the rest of them in the other books? or has JK done that on purpose, coz she cunning like that!!


Ok... i thought i would update this thread. Her's what JKR had to say about Hermoine's family at the Edinburgh book festival.

Does Hermione have any brothers or sisters?

No, she doesn’t. When I first made up Hermione I gave her a younger sister, but she was very hard to work in. The younger sister was not supposed to go to Hogwarts. She was supposed to remain a Muggle. It was a sideline that didn’t work very well and it did not have a big place in the story. I have deliberately kept Hermione’s family in the background. You see so much of Ron’s family so I thought that I would keep Hermione’s family, by contrast, quite ordinary. They are dentists, as you know. They are a bit bemused by their odd daughter but quite proud of her all the same.

So, can we interpret that as JKR saying we will never really get to know Hermione's parents??

[atherella]

Ok... i thought i would update this thread. Her's what JKR had to say about Hermoine's family at the Edinburgh book festival.

So, can we interpret that as JKR saying we will never really get to know Hermione's parents??

Add that quote to what she said about them in 2003:

SF: Now, just a personal question because you seem to know, are we ever
going meet Hermione's parents?

JKR: Well we've seen them briefly but they're dentists so they're not that
interesting

I take the two quotes to mean that we've seen about all of them that we are going to see. Seems that there really isn't anything they could bring to the table in terms of furthering the plot-line.

[ambiyluvsron]

i would like to get to know them

[Rictusempra90]

I read this editorial at Mugglenet about how this person thinks the Grangers will be murdered. It made so much sense it was scary. Do you think JK doesn't want us to get attached to them because they might die? :upset:
*repeat to myself. . . the Grangers won't die, the Grangers won't die . . .*

[idlescribbler]

I wouldn't mind seeing more of the Grangers, but at the same time, I understand that JK has some serious constraints on what she can and can't put in the books. A thousand things that I would love to have seen (Like maybe Ron or Hermione's birthdays just for starters, since they are both at Hogwarts when they happen) but I can see how so many of the small details get sacrificed for the larger narrative. I don't always like it, but I understand it.

[siriusblue]

I think it's a likely plot that Voldemort goes after Muggles somewhere in Book 6. So the Order has to take care of the safety of Hermione's parents. She and her family could be targets because of her friendship with Harry.
If I were Hermione I'd vote for the Fidelius Charm despite the horrible result in the Potters' case.
So who would she choose as Secretkeeper?

I think the best choice would be McGonagall or even Lupin.
Maybe Snape. An adult wizard who can defend itself.

The most practical choice is Tonks, for the obvious:
even if Voldemort would know who to look for,
Tonks would be able to hide all the time.

What do you think?

P.S.: No thread is about upcoming Fidelius Charms yet. I did the search. Sorry if I missed something.
I'd also like to note that I'm one of those who question Hermione's parentage.
But this could be a valid question if Hermione and Harry don't turn out to be siblings after all. Confused? Go to the Lily had 2 kids thread!

[vitacus]

Grawp would be a good choice. Afterall, who would suspect? :)

[arcanus]

I agree that Hermione's parents could be targets as Voldie knows about Harry's hero thing so he could try to get hold of the Grangers in order to kill Harry.
Nevertheless the Fidelius Charm is not the ideal way of protecting them since it would totally disrupt their lives. Just think about what the neighbors or patiens would think if their house or surgery vanished. They would be economically ruined since all of their patients would go to different doctors. If the situation was severe enough they could take such drastic steps, but I really doubt that.

In the case that they need a secretkeeper I would take Lupin. He is powerful enough to protect himself and loyal enough to keep it secret.
Just my two knuts

[GilmoreGirl]

About the Fidelius charm : Has the person with the secret to be a wizard or can a muggle also be protected like this?
I mean the Grangers are muggles,their house is a muggle-house - would the Fidelius charm work?
I´m sure that they will have to go into hiding (malfoy surely has told LV everything he knows about Harry and that his friends are very important for him), but maybe they could go into a secure place, like the headquarters of the OotP...

[tonks181]

If hermione's parents are in mortal danger, what about Hermine herself as secret keeper. I don't think anybody would suspect that? And Harry and Ron and the Order is always going to be around Hermione to protect her, so i doubt if Voldemort would risk anything to kill her.

[indigoeyes]

i agree with the point raised by GilmoreGirl....the grangers live in a muggle house...shouldn't that matter?
in case a secret keeper eas to be chosen...i suggest Dumbledore himself....for all the good reasons!

[grrliz]

About the Fidelius charm : Has the person with the secret to be a wizard or can a muggle also be protected like this?
I mean the Grangers are muggles,their house is a muggle-house - would the Fidelius charm work?
I´m sure that they will have to go into hiding (malfoy surely has told LV everything he knows about Harry and that his friends are very important for him), but maybe they could go into a secure place, like the headquarters of the OotP...Well, we know other spells can work on Muggles: Obliviate, Avada Kedavra, etc. I would assume that just because Muggles can't perform magic themselves doesn't mean they can't have magic performed on them.

But as someone else mentioned, having the Fidelius Charm performed on them would greatly inhibit their lives. But then again, so would being dead. :) If they were wizards, of course, things would be easier (I suspect, somehow,that wizards go into hiding all the time? :huh:). But there must be other ways of protecting someone other than the Fidelius charm. The Fidelius Charm was the best chance for the Potters but it might not be the best chance for the Grangers. We didn't learn of the Fidelius Charm until PoA; there are likely other spells we haven't heard of that can protect to the same effect but in a different way than the Fidelius Charm.

[marylovesharry]

While I also agree with others that there must be other ways of hidding without using a fidelius (sp?) charm.

If hermione's parents are in mortal danger, what about Hermine herself as secret keeper. I don't think anybody would suspect that? And Harry and Ron and the Order is always going to be around Hermione to protect her, so i doubt if Voldemort would risk anything to kill her.

I think Hermonie herself would be a great choice :tu: BUT I don't know if her parents would want her to be their secret keeper. I mean, I wouldn't want my child risking his/her life to save me. It's usually the other way around, parents dieing for their children like with Lily, James and Harry. So while Hermonie would be a good choice because no one would really suspect her, she can defend herself, she would never tell, and the members of the Order would be around her all the time, I don't know how her parents would like this. Other choices would be Lupin or Dumbledore, both of whom are very good choices as well as many others I'm sure.

[filius]

I know i've read somewhere in a recent interview where JK said that Hermione's parents will not be important to the books.

I think it's from the Edinburgh book festival. I'll go look for it now.

EDIT: Found the quote:
Does Hermione have any brothers or sisters?

No, she doesn’t. When I first made up Hermione I gave her a younger sister, but she was very hard to work in. The younger sister was not supposed to go to Hogwarts. She was supposed to remain a Muggle. It was a sideline that didn’t work very well and it did not have a big place in the story. I have deliberately kept Hermione’s family in the background. You see so much of Ron’s family so I thought that I would keep Hermione’s family, by contrast, quite ordinary. They are dentists, as you know. They are a bit bemused by their odd daughter but quite proud of her all the same.
This indicates that the Weasleys are more important than Hermione's family. We won't be seeing much of them...

[Nicole]

Not sure if it would work on muggles, but "just as wizards can make buildings unplottable, they can also make themselves untraceable." (JKR website, FAQ, About the Books). Maybe with Hermione being so clever, she can figure out a way to use this on someone else rather than herself. It must be relatively simple magic as it does not require wand use (mentions Sirius and Vapormort being able to do this spell to avoid Aurors following owls to their hiding places--both were without wands).

[C8H10N4O2]

I think the biggest argument that something will not have to be done about Hermione's parents is the same as Tom Riddle gave to Harry for not troubling with muggles anymore: because all he wanted to do was kill Harry. I think that this will absorb Lord Moldyshorts time and concentration. How can you seriously get on with your plans if you know there is someone out there capable of vanquishing you? And you don't know more than that to prepare yourself. His original plan, in GoF, was to use Harry then kill him, which didn't quite work. Then in OotP, to get the prophecy to learn how to kill Harry and better prepare to destroy him, although I don't think the prophecy would really be much help in that regard -- he already knows he has to kill or be killed. But he is in the dark on what specifics there were, and cannot help but want to be rid of Harry.

He may, in fact, try to attack Harry obliquely by attacking Hermione's parents, or some sniveling ferret of a person may try to seek vengance against him (or Hermione) by doing this, but this is the only way they would be in danger. I don't see it happening. However, we have no evidence that the Fidelius Charm wouldn't work for muggles let in on the secret.

[Tane]

Well the Fidelius charm stops muggles from seeing things I think, perhaps it is selective and you can choose what the charm protects a place from. It might explain why we heard nothing of Hermione's parents and the reason as to why Hermione was staying at Grim 12 all summer, then again Dumbledore may not find Granger's parents in danger but Hermione instead, hence the Grangers hid there daughter.

[TashiGrumblewig]

Does anyone think one person can be secret keeper for more than one thing?


*search disclaimer* I did an advanced search, and couldn't find this anywhere.

[SeekerLynch]

I think it's a likely plot that Voldemort goes after Muggles somewhere in Book 6.
I know that Voldemort doesn't mind killing muggles, but will he actively seek them out? I think he'll have his hands full with the Order. Besides, why would Hermione's parents be in more danger than any other muggles? Voldemort hardly knows and doesn't care who Harmione is, let alone her parents! Would he actually stop fighting the Order just to go look for them? His Death Eaters might do it, but I think they'll be quite busy themselves.

[Fat Friar]

I can't really see how one person could not be secret keeper for more than one location. It'd probably be inconvenient for the secret keeper more than anything else.



I think Harry would be a very good secret keeper. He has one adavantage over many other wizards: He can resist the imperius curse.

[Barbara Kennedy]

I think it much more likely, in the event that Hermione's parents were in danger, that they would be moved and placed somewhere in the Wizarding world where Dumbledore and the Order could more directly protect them.
They would likely be taken to Grimmauld Place or directly to Hogwarts, IF they were threatened.
I do not think this highly likely, however, since JKR, herself, has said they will not play a large role in the story.

[SeekerLynch]

The Fidelius Charm is complex and difficult. If the Grangers were in danger, it would be easier to just move them to Hogwarts or something.

[aggiefan1206]

He is more focused on getting Harry at this point. SO unless Harry was with Hermione's parents there would be no need unless to attack hermione which would not only be a blow to Harry but to Ron as well. I would have to say wizards in the order and Harry and his friends are in the most danger. The da could probably be incluede because they stand behind harry

[lupislune]

I understand the theory that Voldemort could go after Hermoine and her parent's as a way to get at harry, but I disagree. As many have said, I don't think that Hermoine's parents are going to be targets of Voldemort.

JKR has said that Hermoine's parents are unimportant.

I do find it odd though, that Hermoine spends an awfull lot of time at the burrow, but that is for another thread.

[LordIluvatar]

the order would probally just move them into grimwauld :p

I do find it odd though, that Hermoine spends an awfull lot of time at the burrow, but that is for another thread.

jw what you mean by this?

[lupislune]

LordIluvatar

I think it is peculiar that Ron and Hermoine spend an unbelievable amount of time together, and Harry seems oblivious to it. This thread, however, is not the correct place to discuss this idea.

[hpfan_08]

I think that these people would make good secretkeepers in this order:

1. Dumbledore, noone can best him at magic
2. Tonks, he would never be able to find her
3. McGonagall
pretty much anyone in the order except Hadgrid (P/S, S/S we learned hes not to good with secrets)

[Elf]

The topic of this thread reminds me of the fanfic "After the End" in which Hermione's parents are severely damaged by the Cruciatus Curse.

I agree with those who have said that the Grangers aren't going to factor into the story much, but hypothetically speaking, if I had to pick a Secret-Keeper for them I would choose Arthur Weasley. Arthur is fascinated with Muggles and I'm sure he'd be thrilled and honoured to be seen as a protector of muggles. :)

[crumseekerlynch]

Not every body in the world has a secretkeeper. It is a vert dangerouse difficult spell used only when it is vital. The potters didn't even get it done until the last minute.

[Snape2008]

No question in my mind for It would be Hagrid for I think he cares for he so much. He seems to have a softer spot for her. In the C.O.S the film version. Hagrid was her main comfort about the mudblood heckling. So i would think it be Hagrid. Then again we may learn that Snape really cares for the students and she has to choose Snape. Most people will say Hagrid can't keep a secret but he is trustworthy and would never say anything that would hurt hermione or the Trio. He told harry about his parents for it was the right thing to do.

[hollygo72]

I know that Voldemort doesn't mind killing muggles, but will he actively seek them out?

You guys are assuming that Voldermort does all of his dirty work. He has FOLLOWERS. He has death eaters.

Remember in GoF, they decided to torture Muggles for their own amusement. JK said that the Muggle world WILL be affected in the coming books.

We may never get to know Hermione's parents, but that doesn't mean that their deaths, or possible torture wouldn't have an effect on the story.

No, Voldermort may not be likely to go after the Granger's himself. But, what about the Malfoys? Draco HATES Hermione as much as he hates Harry. Lucious may be in jail. But Draco's mother is still free.

I could see Hermione having a run in with Mrs. Malfoy (Narcissus?) and her taking out her rage on the Grangers. Or they could be innocent bystanders in an attempt to get at Hermione. Or maybe the Death Eaters want to make an example of Mudbloods.

Also, we have no idea how much Hermione has told her parents about Voldemort and the war. She might have done the same as Dean Thomas and not told them anything.

I'm not gonna rule out that the Grangers could be in danger.

[SquibOnline]

Maybe, but then again Harry could be lured into a trap if Voldemort captured any of the griffyndor parents

[fawkes_song6]

Well, I think its a bit unfair, because Ron and (obviously) Harry's parents have a big part in the story, so why don't we ever see Hermione's parents? I know they're muggles but Aunt Petunia and Uncle Vernon are muggles too! Please hear me out and tell me what you think!

[sam_siren]

i agree actually... there has to be some reason Hermione is like the way she is... maybe her parents are to blame! it would be nice to know. perhaps in the next book we will see them more, and what HER home life is like.

[fawkes_song6]

I agree with you. I think Hermione's parents are important in a way, and it would be really interesting to see what kind of people they are..

[sam_siren]

yeah. i want to know what her house is like etc. i think she is secretly a big slob. that would be funny!
All we know really is that they are dentists, maybe they arent really, maybe they are spies... dont know why, just thought it would be amusing!

[TheDarkLordSam]

why don't we ever see Hermione's parents?We have seen them. In CoS they were at Diagon Alley. . . I agree we should get to see their house, though.

[BabyNorbert]

I think we will probably see Hermione's parents in one of the up-coming books...I have a feeling Harry will be paying a visit to Hermione's house...we'll have to see!

[Rapunzel]

JK Rowling Q&A session at Royal Albert Hall

Q: Are we ever going to meet Hermione's parents?

A: Well we've seen them very briefly, but they're dentists so they're not that interesting.

I'd take that as a "no" or at least "probably not".

[sam_siren]

you never know, she could be trying to sneak it up on people! people do lie... or fib... she doesnt want to give it all away! hehe. ok, i am dillusional... i just want to see them is all!

[literally dark]

i was writing a fan fic a while back where Harry and Ron went to her house at the end of the summer to celebrate her getting 100% of the O.W.L.s

[Cranberries66]

I dunno if we will meet them but we did in CoS in Flourish and Blotts. But true we never actuall "Meet" them we only saw them. Well I cant really remember the book it has been along time since I read that one, but in the movie we didn't. But I agree it would be cool.

[jazzy nifflah]

A: Well we've seen them very briefly, but they're dentists so they're not that interesting.
Agreed. Unless something exciting happens at the Granger household, there's really no need for us to know a whole lot more about them. :eyebrows:

[Cranberries66]

i was writing a fan fic a while back where Harry and Ron went to her house at the end of the summer to celebrate her getting 100% of the O.W.L.s


You know what would be funni? If that really happens! It would be kinda cool, but I doubt it would, bu you never know, right? :p

Agreed. Unless something exciting happens at the Granger household, there's really no need for us to know a whole lot more about them. :eyebrows:

You have to admit though it would be kinda cool. But what if like they weren't really muggles, and they only pretended to be? And how is i that Hermione is a witch? Do we know who in her family is a witch or wizard? Its confusing I noe! lol:lol:

I mean I don't really think that would happen but you never noe now do you??? :lol:

[jazzy nifflah]

I think one of the reasons JKR made Hermione's parents non-magical was to illustrate the point that even the "most brilliant young witch of her time" can come from a family of "lowly" muggles, which contradicts the racism that families like the Malfoys believe in. Sort of like the fact that Tom Riddle's father was a muggle. Powerful "mudblood" witches like Hermione must really irk him... :eyebrows:

But, yes, it would be interesting to know exactly how Hermione acquired her magical abilities to begin with.

[ComicBookWorm]

you never know, she could be trying to sneak it up on people! people do lie... or fib... she doesnt want to give it all away! hehe. ok, i am dillusional... i just want to see them is all!
JKR doesn't lie to her fans. Why do people keep suggesting this? She respects her audience. She's used misdirection in the books, she's never had deliberate lies in the books or her interviews. If she says something she means it. Dentists aren't very interesting. Sorry to all the dentists out there.

And frankly there is so much going on in the storyline right now, that meeting Hermione's parents doesn't seem to be important.

[dobby_rocks]

We have seen them. In CoS they were at Diagon Alley. . . I agree we should get to see their house, though.

They have also been at the end of the book to pick her up, at least sometimes

[Sunfish McCaul]

I suspect that any question about the plots of future books that begins with, "Will we ever..." might be answered simply: "Yes". Rowling has got every detail down pat for the series, and I think she'll wind up fleshing out every corner of her world by the end of the seventh book. We might meet them after they've been killed by Death Eaters however... I don't see a happy future for any poor, unsuspecting dentists who just so happen to be the parents of a brilliant witch who's siding against a dark, sadistic overlord.

[dink]

What would be the point of meeting Hermione's parents? How would it move the larger plot of the series along? If JKR has publicly stated that they are dentists, and 'not that interesting' then what justification can anyone have for thinking that they're going to have a significant role to play in the final books of the series?

JKR doesn't lie to her fans.:rolleyes: If she did then most of the theories on CoS Forums would be without foundation.

[Barbara Kennedy]

Did you see these threads?

Hermione’s Parents (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=14960)
Why doesn’t Hermione spend more time with her parents? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=25329)
Fidelius and secretkeeper for Hermione’s parents? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=34629)

[crookshanks1177]

I thought I saw somewhere else JKR implying that she wasn't going to focus much on Hermione's parents. I could be wrong. I also thought I saw that in earlier drafts she intended for Hermione to have a sister, but decided not to include that story line in the final draft.

JKR doesn't lie to the fans. If she did why would we waste the time debating on the hints she drops us?

[Mirjam]

I have to agree to what dink says.
I don't think Hermione's parents are really needed for the story line. Well, of course only as nothing important happens in the Granger household, i.e. Voldi shows up to kill them or something like that.

And sure, Hermione's parents are important when it comes to her character - but then when I look at my boyfriend (whose father is a physician) I see Hermione. All a bookworm and the little know-it-all. Maybe there is something about having parents in a career like that. Maybe it rubs off on the children (well, not on every child I suppose). And I think Hermionie's character is much more important in itself than WHY she actually behaves that way.

I'd love to get to know more about her parents, but I don't really expect it to happen. I'd be happy if I did though.

[sam_siren]

JKR doesn't lie to her fans. Why do people keep suggesting this? She respects her audience. She's used misdirection in the books, she's never had deliberate lies in the books or her interviews. If she says something she means it. Dentists aren't very interesting. Sorry to all the dentists out there.

And frankly there is so much going on in the storyline right now, that meeting Hermione's parents doesn't seem to be important.


i am not really saying she lied!!! it is just that she isnt going to give away story lines now is she? i don't know.
it was only a joke. hehe. calm down... ok ok, lets not get out of hand. ignore me, who the hell am i?

[tonkscrazy]

I think we had already , in the second book .
And about her house , idont think it is important for us to know more about ,or who knows ,maybe her parents will die ,....nah probably no:/

[sam_siren]

i was thinking the same thing, like, maybe they will be killed by wizards when the whole war thing gets going, but then i thought that it would be too obvious because it isnt original anymore! who knows, maybe when the war starts hermione will ask dumbledore if they can move into hogwarts or something... it would be funny, they could teach muggle studies!

[JakeOfRavenclaw]

I doubt her parents will play a role in the story, after all we have already seen them (in Diagon Alley) and they didn't even say anything, you would think that if JKR was going to make them play a role she wouldn't have wasted that opportunity...?

It would be a great plot twist if they were killed by Voldemort, though, it would be very interesting to see how Hermione delt with that--she has not yet faced a painful loss as Harry has and I wonder how she would react to one?

[Fury]

I have a feeling I know the name of Hermione's mother.

I think it is Helen. Cause we all know JK Rowling loves History... and Helen of Troy's daughter was named Hermione.

[fawkes_song6]

Well we've seen them very briefly, but they're dentists so they're not that interesting.



Well just because they're dentists doesn't mean they are boring! I mean it would be great and really interesting to see Hermione's house or something! It would be good because we already hear loads about Harry and Ron's parents,etc!

[Fury]

Well just because they're dentists doesn't mean they are boring! I mean it would be great and really interesting to see Hermione's house or something! It would be good because we already hear loads about Harry and Ron's parents,etc!

I agree... my biggest hope is to see Spinners End be Hermione's house. I would love to see it and know who Hermione's parents really are.

But I have doubts. Meeting them may be foreshadowing their death.

[sam_siren]

totally. but the spinners end thing would be great... Fury, i love your 'prediction' of her mum's name. it would be cool if it were true, but then, what other things could be predicted by using history? hmmmm...

[Fury]

totally. but the spinners end thing would be great... Fury, i love your 'prediction' of her mum's name. it would be cool if it were true, but then, what other things could be predicted by using history? hmmmm...

I love how she makes history go along with it...

Helen is a good name... and is very probable...

um.. other history... have to get back to you on that.

[EdgeOfGryffindr]

It seems kind of like that one area where Hermione is a bit naive is death. As far as we know, nobody close to her has died, and obviously she's never witnessed a death. If one or more of her parents were killed off, that's how she learns to appreciate the... depth(?) of death. But, at this point, odds are good that we're not gonna be formally introduced to Hermione's parents unless one or both of them are entering the last phase of their life. It's kind of twisted, but I actually WANT one or both of them to kick the bucket just so JKR can give us a chance to see into Hermione's home life.

[sam_siren]

hear hear!

[Kimmetje]

JKR said they were not going to be important though I do however think we will see them differently after a while (but that is for a different thread) as I think they will die hitting the trio on an emotional base though I do not think they will further have an important role as they are just dentists.

[dementorsekiss]

it would be nice but if jk decides to put them in the remaining two books i bet something bad'll happen

[Apocrypha]

Hermione obviously had to have parents, but that doesn't mean they have to be a turning point in the plot. I doubt JKR's going to take it to the max with them.

[fawkes_song6]

Well since we've already seen LOADS of Harry and Ron's parents, it would be great to see more of Hermione's parents before Book 7. They were only mentioned once or twice in CoS and Harry and Ron's parents are mentioned frequently in every book!

[Lucybird]

We have briefly in Diagon Alley and I think at platform 9 and 3/4

[Catulina]

I've always pictured Hermione coming from somewhere in the Home Counties (with -in commuting distance of London) where her parent run their dental practice, where it would not be uncommon for the daughter of two well paid and busy professionals to go boarding school, so no great excuses necessary.
I agree with the comments that to take the story to Hermione's home, whist it might be interesting, would not further the story. It would also leave Harry 'unprotected'.
I have this feeling that there may be magic several generations back in Hermione's family tree.

[fairy_lightz]

i tihnk we wont find out much about them in books 6 and 7

[ttb]

Well i think that they are not central to the story line, but it would be nice to know something more about them, besides than fact there dentists.

[Lucybird]

I don't think JK will put anything in about them... unless Voldy starts killing muggles again because then we could see a wider muggle view of what was happening

[atherella]

I don't think JK will put anything in about them... unless Voldy starts killing muggles again because then we could see a wider muggle view of what was happening

The muggle killings definitely sound like they will come into play.

Ms. Rowling, will Voldemort's evil ways rise again, such as Muggle killings?

JKR - Well, his temper hasn't exactly improved while he's been away, has it? So I think we can safely say, yes.

JKR also had this to say at the WBD chat 3/4/04
Calliope: Are the Muggle and Magical worlds ever going to be rejoined?

JK Rowling replies -> No, the breach was final, although as book six shows, the Muggles are noticing more and more odd happenings now that Voldemort's back.

As for Hermione's parents, JKR has mentioned them a few times in interviews. For those who haven't read her comments, here they are. :)

SF: Now, just a personal question because you seem to know, are we ever
going meet Hermione's parents?

JKR: Well we've seen them briefly but they're dentists so they're not that
interesting

Sirius Kase: Will we get to know the Grangers? Is Hermione an only child?

JK Rowling replies -> I always planned that Hermione would have a younger sister but she's never made an appearance and somehow it feels like it might be too late now.


And lastly, this one from the EBF in August, 2004.

Does Hermione have any brothers or sisters?

No, she doesn’t. When I first made up Hermione I gave her a younger sister, but she was very hard to work in. The younger sister was not supposed to go to Hogwarts. She was supposed to remain a Muggle. It was a sideline that didn’t work very well and it did not have a big place in the story. I have deliberately kept Hermione’s family in the background. You see so much of Ron’s family so I thought that I would keep Hermione’s family, by contrast, quite ordinary. They are dentists, as you know. They are a bit bemused by their odd daughter but quite proud of her all the same.

[Catulina]

Quoted by Atherella, above:

"SF: Now, just a personal question because you seem to know, are we ever
going meet Hermione's parents?

JKR: Well we've seen them briefly but they're dentists so they're not that
interesting "


Oh dear, even my favourite author feels I must be boring, or at least 'not that interesting'. Too bad!

[Wimsey]

Hermione's parents and her pre-Hogwarts life actually tell us a bit about Hermione. Namely, she never talks about it. Ron talks all of the time. Even Neville and Seamus have told us more about their pasts and they spend far less time with Harry.

Hermione initially was a bratty little know-it-all who managed to alienate everyone in her class in two months. She also was very distraught by it - I suspect that she was trying to make friends but failing miserably. (I suspect that she had already developed a crush on Ron at that point, as even in P/SS, she reacts most volatilely to his jibes.)

So, my guess is that Hermione was not a happy camper as a young girl. She did not make friends, she was not pretty (her buck teeth and unmanageable hair seem to have given her a complex about her looks, and, let's face it, it takes next to nothing to do that to a girl), and the only thing that she could do well (i.e., get top marks) earned her even more scorn than she already was getting.

[sunshine1313]

Did anyone else notice how much time Hermione doesn't spend with her parents? I mean She left home early in GOF to go to the Weasleys for the Cup. Then she speant the holdiday at school for the ball. Then the summer in OOTP was speant entirely at head quarters. She then also ditched them on the ski trip. It just strikes me odd how she doesn't want to spend atleast some time with them. I don't think its really important, its just probaly JK's way to keep her in the stories, but well, still.

Yeah, I thought that was odd, too. She's been with her parents, probably about a month in two years. That does seem odd. :huh:

[Torlek]

I see are really good reason for Hermoine to spend so little time with her parents. The Wizzarding world is in civil war. Before Voldies return Hermoine spend as much time as possible wih her parents but after that she stays with wizzards. Her parents would most likly understand that since they can't do that much to protect her.

[Rachel Gibbons]

All I'm going to say is that I think Hermione's parents are both a target to Voldemort and Lucius Malfoy. They simbolise what they hate the most...muggles. If any funny deaths occur it could be to these two, to get at Harry through Hermione, or just to vent some of their anger. Lucius is the more probable... he's always had a problem with them, and Draco with Hermione. I don't like it, but I think it could happen.

[lupislune]

Yeah, I thought that was odd, too. She's been with her parents, probably about a month in two years. That does seem odd. :huh:


I'll agree with you on this idea. As I have studied different theories/ideas about Hermoine's parents, and there are some bizzare ones out there, I keep asking myself that question Sunshine1313. I just can't seem to get over it.

I have also come to the conclusion that there is something fishy about Hermoine's parents. I know JKR has said that her parents (the muggle ones) are unimportant and ordinary that is why they don't take more of a focus to the storyline. At the moment, I am halfway convinced that the muggles that are her parents aren't her "real" parents, but there really isn't much evidence to support this idea, mainly speculation based on the a collection of oddites, one of these being the fact that she spends very little time with them.

[conquest]

I'll agree with you on this idea. As I have studied different theories/ideas about Hermoine's parents, and there are some bizzare ones out there, I keep asking myself that question Sunshine1313. I just can't seem to get over it.

I have also come to the conclusion that there is something fishy about Hermoine's parents. I know JKR has said that her parents (the muggle ones) are unimportant and ordinary that is why they don't take more of a focus to the storyline. At the moment, I am halfway convinced that the muggles that are her parents aren't her "real" parents, but there really isn't much evidence to support this idea, mainly speculation based on the a collection of oddites, one of these being the fact that she spends very little time with them.

It could be as easy as they don't have a close relationship do the fact that neither her parents nor her seem to have a lot in common. Her parents are muggle dentists while Hermione is a witch who is involved in a completely different world then that of her parents. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't tell her parents anything about her, Ron's, and Harry's adventures to be honest. I'm not disputing the fact that her parents don't love her or vice versa, quite the contrary. I think they must love her a lot to acknoweledge the fact that she's a witch and allow her to go to this school they really don't know much about for most of the year because they want her to know that part of her life.

So I attribute their lack of bonding to a lack of common ground to relate to on both sides.

[destiney]

It is true that we dont hear alot about them but then i supose maybe they are not important?, i mean coz harry knows about the muggle world so they wouldnt be interesting and they cant really take the trio anywhere intresting can they? they proberly dont have the room for them to stay over? But then maybe they are important as most people mentioned breifly do have quite important roles later, eg mrs figg. but then maybe she just added them as everyone needs parents?

[cassyopaya]

It could be as easy as they don't have a close relationship do the fact that neither her parents nor her seem to have a lot in common. Her parents are muggle dentists while Hermione is a witch who is involved in a completely different world then that of her parents. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't tell her parents anything about her, Ron's, and Harry's adventures to be honest. I'm not disputing the fact that her parents don't love her or vice versa, quite the contrary. I think they must love her a lot to acknoweledge the fact that she's a witch and allow her to go to this school they really don't know much about for most of the year because they want her to know that part of her life.

So I attribute their lack of bonding to a lack of common ground to relate to on both sides.I agree with you. I don´t think that there is more to Hermione´s parents than what meets the eye. They are muggles and therefore their life is not "interesting" enough to the readers. And as you said before, she is not likely to tell her parents anything about their adventures.

[fairylight]

I've got to agree with the fact that I don't think Hermione tells her parents a whole heck of a lot of the goings-on in Hogwarts.
I think her parents are kept out of the story on purpose, as somebody else said, they wouldn't add very much to the plot and I think they're there to help us see that although there is so much discrimination over blood, despite your parentage you could still be the cleverest witch of your age! :)

[brokenglasses]

They are Muggles, so I can't see what they would really have to offer the stories.

I agree. They're dentist. Not much to say really. They clean teach and their daughter is an amazing witch. End of back story

[Dark Emperor]

Dentists who are really...Mr. and Mrs. Simith!! :lol:

[Cheri]

I wonder if her parents might pull her out of Hogwarts in the future...They are bound to be told or find out about the upcoming dangers the students will face at Hogwarts/the Wizarding World, granted Hogwarts is more safe there than anywhere else. Dunno...

[tarachristwen]

They are Muggles, so I can't see what they would really have to offer the stories.

i agree with cordeliablack13..they are muggles and they don't much connection with harry except that their daughter is harry's best friend.