CoSForums Archive - Another Ball In Book Six?

wahsup86

August 4th, 2003, 5:11 pm

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:22 pm

Yes...just maybe...JK did spring the Triwizard Yule Ball on us....and maybe this time the erm....right dates will occur...*cough*...not trying to promote ships....(just read my sig to find out what i feel are the right dates.)

Dedalus

August 4th, 2003, 5:24 pm

What would be the occasion to have a ball, though? In the Goblet of Fire they held a ball in tradition with the Triwizard Tournament.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:25 pm

Thats all up to Jk, mate. There was no hint of the Triwizard in earlier books (before GoF) either, much less the Yule Ball.

wahsup86

August 4th, 2003, 5:26 pm

Well what I meant was, the books are pointing to Ron/Hermione, and I meant it might take another ball or something to bring them together. So when I said don't promote ships I was more or less reffering to Harry/Hermione shippers. Not that I am contradicting a Harry/Hermione ship, but I don't want people staring arguments over ships.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:28 pm

I admire your aims on not letting this turn into another shipping war; Harry/Ginny is my prediction too

hermy_weasley2

August 4th, 2003, 5:28 pm

I think another ball in book six would be a little too predictable. It's a good idea though. Right now, a ball is the only thing I see that would force them to move closer, and I do agree that they need to be forced to get together. Hmmmm....yeah a ball but what else would do that? Maybe Ron won't have Quidditch practice when the rest of the school goes off to Hogsmeade for Valentine's Day. Just a thought. Maybe Ron will win two tickets to some wizarding event and we'll get to watch an interesting conversation as Ron explains to Harry why he isn't giving the other one to him. Just a thought...

wahsup86

August 4th, 2003, 5:28 pm

Also, in Goblet Of Fire, it said they needed dress robes for certain occasions. However in the two years they have been required by Harry and co., we have only seen them worn once. I don't get why they would have them by them for only one occasion. So there has to be another ball or something.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:29 pm

But this new ball would have a desperate edge to it, don't you think? Make out with your true love before Voldemort kills all of us.. sigh...

sindatur

August 4th, 2003, 5:34 pm

I agree, there probably will be another Social gathering for the upper classmen at sometime in the next two books, like stated above, why else have the Dress Robes be required?

However, I think Ron will be pushed into making his move through some jealousy, such as Krum being back in town, or Hermione talking/writing to Viktor to much for Ron's taste.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:36 pm

If Harry was to ask out Ginny, what would the reason be though...surely not jealousy.

PlaceboAddict

August 4th, 2003, 5:37 pm

I could see something else forcing them together... who was it? *sarcastic voice* Struggling to remember here... played a huge part in the 4th book.... said things like Vell, and Ve.... oh yeah - Krum!!!! JKR wouldn't just leave us hanging with that. Hermione mentioned that Krum did like it better at Hogwarts (even though he's now probably graduated), and the fact that him and Hermione still write? I think that's probably meaning he'll be making a return visit sometime soon. I'm sure he'll play a big part in giving Ron that extra shove to tell her how he feels... dunno if she feels the same way though *ponders*...

wahsup86

August 4th, 2003, 5:40 pm

Personally I feel she does with the whole "Ask me first next time and not as a last resort" line. But again, don't want this to become a shipping war, this is like baiting the hook for a Harry/Hermione shipper right now, so getting back on track a bit. What do you think is the likelyhood there will be another ball?

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:41 pm

YES, placeboaddict (nice name btw,), it's established that either Ron will get together with Hermione through jealousy or he finally devotes some of his few remaining brain cells to relationships. WHAT ABOUT HARRY??!!??

Kizz

August 4th, 2003, 5:48 pm

If you're planning on discussing anything to do with love, then you should really keep within the love thread here. They've already discussed all these issues and more, and will be more than willing to deconstruct the entire book for you. Seeing as dress robes are required I suspect there will be other functions to go to, this doesn't necessarily mean they will be balls etc.

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Animagi rock!

August 4th, 2003, 5:49 pm

I think that there might be another ball in the future, or at least another occasion for them to wear dress robes. Why would Harry have told Fred and George to buy Ron new dress robes if he never wears them.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:51 pm

Smart parties...like Mrs. Weasely mentioned in GoF. I like the idea of another social gathering at Hogwarts though....

Fairydust

August 4th, 2003, 5:55 pm

The whole "Next time there's a ball ask me before someone else does..." i think was foreshadowing for an upcoming ball and having Ron take Hermione. Ron will certainly get the point and ask her before someone else does. As for Harry and Ginny? I would love for them to hook up, but that remains to be seen. I think they'll hook up in the end buti don't know if it will happen in book 6. I like your ball idea for book 6. But i was thinking more along the lines of a ball in book 7. it would be like a graduation ball. you know, a hogwarts style prom.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 5:58 pm

With Ginny wearing a frilly sort of prom dress like Aunt Petunia???
ROTFLMAO.....(wipes away tears of mirth)

Fairydust

August 4th, 2003, 6:08 pm

frilly dress? i can picture all the girls in pretty ball gowns and everything. but a dress like Petunia? heck no. :lol:

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 6:12 pm

I was just joking...yeah...a Hogwarts prom...frilly dresses would be really funny, though....dressing Muggle style....

Phoenix_Fawkes

August 4th, 2003, 6:13 pm

Herry/Hermione Forever.. LOL ill stop but I do hope there is another ball and if there is I expect some people fighting over Hermione this time ;)! Harry will win! lol I hope.. But there is a chance for another ball/Dance.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 6:17 pm

I think wahsup86 will kill you; i think he(or she)(sorry wahsup, didn't check your profile) said no shipping arguments please. Though I think we can make erm...subtle hints???

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 6:24 pm

I think it would break all of our hearts if Harry and Ron had another major row and broke off as friends due to just Hermione.

Fairydust

August 4th, 2003, 6:25 pm

Yes. no shipping in this thread. i hope that for ball dates though that Ron asks Hermione and Ginny ask Harry. all's for dreaming. ;)

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 6:27 pm

Yeah, hopefully Harry won't tread on Ginny's robe (or frilly dress lol) as much as Neville did.

Fairydust

August 4th, 2003, 6:33 pm

But then Ginny's a year younger and so isn't graduating. maybe Harry can ask her. but then the seventh is when he's going to have to worry about defeating Voldie. i don't thik he'll have time to ask out girls or whatnot. i just want H/G to go to a ball together. i mean, they had a chance, but Ginny turned him down because she was ibligated to go with Neville. well it sort of worked out. sort of....

Phoenix_Fawkes

August 4th, 2003, 6:37 pm

I'll respect wahsup86's plead for no Ship debating so to all you R/Hr shippers:grumble: :rasp::nc::grumble::rasp:. But on a more nicer note.. And on Topic. If theres not a Ball in book 6 There will be one for sure in book 7! There will be another ball/Dance its almost a fact! The characters need another social gathering to get "closer" to each other! So what ever your ship is when theres another ball/Dance this is where its going to happen. This is where the Ship will start! Thats my two sence anyways!

TheBoss

August 4th, 2003, 6:40 pm

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 6:41 pm

Your to "sence" are very valuable...point well taken

Fairydust

August 4th, 2003, 6:45 pm

hahahaha. humongoratdropping, that's not nice. i think. anyhoo, i think the last page of the yule braw was foreshadowing for another ball to happen in either book six or seven. it was also, i think, foreshadowin of Ron asking Hermione to the ball. I think the fact that Harry and Ginny didn't go to the ball in book 4, even though Ginny had the chance, was also foreshadowing for an H/G ball hook up. i hope these guys hook up for the ball.

humongoratdropping

August 4th, 2003, 6:48 pm

Yeah....it'll be sad to see these "happy" relationships plummet if it doesn't happen.

Fairydust

August 4th, 2003, 6:52 pm

what "happy" relationships are you talking about? :eyebrows:

Phoenix_Fawkes

August 4th, 2003, 6:53 pm

Yea.. Im confused now too?

wahsup86

August 4th, 2003, 7:01 pm

I'm a bit confused myself, thanks for keeping the topic shipper argument clean though.

Mad I

August 4th, 2003, 7:16 pm

I definitly think that there will be a ball in book 7, but I think that it would be a little weird to have two in two consecutive years (although it does seem foolish to but dress robes and only wear then twice, that we know about at least). But, if there is a dance in book 6 I expect that we will she different results than in book 4, meaning that one of the two main boys (Harry or Ron) will ask Hermione to the dance.

Mad I

August 4th, 2003, 7:18 pm

Even if there isn't another dance there will surely be more relationship, depite the importance of Voldemort's return.

Hazelnutt1230

August 4th, 2003, 9:07 pm

If there is a ball or another gathering that requires dress gowns, I think it will be in the 6th book because JK has a tendency of putting something in a book and then skipping a book and bring it back. I think it would be great to have another ball because it would also mean that you could ask someone from a different house which will be proving that the sorting hat wants the houses to unite to protect the school. And if this happens in B6, then the students can defend Hogwarts in the 7th book if the fighting ends up there(a theory that is in another tread...can't remember which one though...sorry) I would love to see another ball and hope that Ron and Hermione actually do something about their feelings for eachother. And as someone said in another thread, JKR said that R&Hr feelings grow in book 6(not sure if this is true though) Sorry about getting off topic alittle bit...back to the ball discussion!

babilonia

August 4th, 2003, 9:32 pm

Maybe a Ball because of their OWLs results??? I don't know

Mad I

August 4th, 2003, 9:44 pm

There could be a party at Hogwarts to celebrate the OWL results just for the incoming 6th years, I guess you never know.

Phoenix_Fawkes

August 4th, 2003, 10:50 pm

Someone said a little while ago That There will be one in book 7! I agree totally.. It will be like Prom/Going away Ball.... So if we dont see one in 6 we will for sure in 7! And im thinking we wont see one in 6rh.. Cause back to back Balls isnt JKs thing! I dont tink anywayz!

x Natalie x

August 5th, 2003, 12:04 am

i really hope ther will be a ball in either book 6 or 7, cuz i want to see who asks who. lol! im not a shipper, but the ppl i would like to see get together are h/h or h/r (if its h/r, then i want h/g) and of couse the ever popular n/l lol

Sirius83

August 5th, 2003, 12:34 am

I seriously doubt there will be one in book 6. A graduation one in book 7 sure, but not in 6.

Vanilla Dream

August 5th, 2003, 12:43 am

I guess it would be interesting to have another ball. It has like, I guess you could say, a bit of a romantic atmosphere and as they're all growing up and are going to be 16 I guess it would be cool to see if anything happened.

aurelius

August 5th, 2003, 1:02 am

I don't think that there will be a Ball in Book 6, but I am most certain that there will be in Book 7, this is their last year at Hogwarts and I'm pretty sure that there is some sort of Graduation Ball.

And this is not a shipper note, but just a thought regarding the Ron and Hermione situation...I've read GoF a couple of times now and I have tried to read between the lines of any possible romance between these two and I just don't see it happening...My thought is this...I think Ron sees Hermione as one of the "boys"...I mean, he has known her since their first year and they have pretty much spent alot of time together and he sees her as this constant thing in his life, someone that he can depend on, someone who is there when he or Harry need help (most of the time - answers)...he sees her as someone who is reliable - he's so used to having Hermione around and helping him out of sticky situations...so naturally, he is going to be shocked when someone asks her to a ball...in GoF he says.."Hermione, you're a girl..." - I think what he is trying to plainly say is that...I need a date to the ball and you're a girl and I need to take a girl...and I think Ron was feeling confident that she would say "yes" because their friends...But on Hermione's part, with her personality and always being wanting to be the best or on top of everything she does took this offensively. In her point of view - well, she was Ron's last resort...and I don't think that goes down well with any girl, knowing that your friend practically asked all the girls out and then in the end had no choice but to ask you out...I think this is why Ron and Hermione had that blow out after the Yule Ball, because Ron thought that he could always count on Hermione when he needed her and Hermione didn't want to be a "last resort" for him or anyone...Ron sees Hermione as his BEST FRIEND, someone he can trust and always rely on, and in this case, she wasn't there for him, which suggests why he's so upset...as for the next Hogwarts Ball, I guess we'll see who they will be going with...

Daveydee

August 5th, 2003, 1:14 am

wow i dont follow any of you guys! im not expecting another ball in book6, but book7 defenitly.. its year 7, GRADUATION!! *shakes head* overlookers :p..
Something you're overlooking - we don't have GRADUATION!! here in England when we finish school. We GRADUATE!! when we finish university. And we don't have GRADUATION!! balls either at school or university.

Hammi

August 5th, 2003, 1:26 am

Balls been done, not JK's style to do it again. Maybe though, there will be a social event, but a ball, definitely not.

Sirius83

August 5th, 2003, 2:18 am

Oo bUMbLE bEE oO

August 5th, 2003, 2:28 am

I wonder if they have like a prom thing. I think it's about time some of these kids find some gf's and bf's! Probably not enough time for that though.

Prof.Aze

August 5th, 2003, 3:06 am

I think there would be no ball in book 6 but there would be a ball in book 7 that would be suggested by their new head girl Hermione. I hope so. :blush: Anyway, the occassion maybe in book 7 would be their graduation ball, which would happen before their graduation. Then * * and * * would go out and they would be on. I will not mention anything. :sigh: But i wish i could mention. Maybe there are people out there who have the same shipper with me. Then we could agree. But anyway i really hope it would be them. :p

Daveydee

August 5th, 2003, 9:36 am

Really? That's interesting, we use the British education system here(British colony till 1962) and there's a graduation dinner and dance at every school, that's pretty much a ball. Thats graduating from normal schooling, not University which comes later on. You graduate from one stage of your education and go on to start another.
Nope - nothing over here. People finish A levels (could be anytime between May and July) and then just drift away as and when. It's all a bit of an anti-climax, really, to 7 years schooling.

Back on topic, I'm sure there will be another social occasion in HP. In Britain, Christmas discos (Yule Ball), and May Balls are quite popular social events at schools.

Sirius83

August 5th, 2003, 2:41 pm

Hm interesting...we actually have a graduation after both O-Levels and A-Levels...ah well. I need to ask a friend who went to the UK, i'm pretty sure she mentioned a post-A-Levels graduation dinner/dance.

Here's another reason for a special celebration though, Voldemort's defeat. If there is to be another ball, i really don't see why it would be in book 6. It's too soon after GOF and doesn't make sense to place it in 6 instead of 7. It seems like something that would be done near the story's conclusion and to have in both 6 and 7 is very repetitive.

GryffindorGal

August 5th, 2003, 6:35 pm

wow i dont follow any of you guys! im not expecting another ball in book6, but book7 defenitly.. its year 7, GRADUATION!! *shakes head* overlookers :p.. also, i dont think those 3 will get together, although i'd like to see H+H :) i just dont think R or H or H or G will even get together! im actually leaning towards Luna+Ron, Ginny and some guy, (warning) i want H+H together but i dont even have confidence that'll happen :shrug: my thoughts..

i sooo didnt edit this :whistle:

You don't graduate in England secondary schools, you just "Leave" as in the school term ends, you go home and don't come back the following year. JKR seems to be followng the system pretty faithfully so I don't see her straying from it now.

siriusgurl

August 6th, 2003, 5:09 am

well don't they have dances in England?!? We have s few each year, I find it very odd they've only had one.... w/e but I'll think they be another ball-ish thing.

aurelius

August 6th, 2003, 8:58 am

GryffindorGal

August 6th, 2003, 11:03 am

There is something you are overlooking, just because the HP series is set in England, doesn't mean that they can't have a ball because there is no such thing as graduation - There is no such thing as a graduation in the Muggle World, but the Wizarding World is totally different...think about it...

No I really don't think that I am overlooking anything, to be perfectly honest. JKR seems to have modeled the World she's created fairly closely on the Muggle one. And as I said she's following the British school system. . .OWLS/NEWTS . .are the equivilent of the O-Levels (it has a new name now) and the A-Levels. In 5 books we've heard only of one dance and that's strictly because it was a tradition of the Triwizard Tournament which intimates that had there been no tournament there would have been no dance.

I also don't think that dress robes were required by 4th years and up prior to GOF. I got the feeling that it was a one shot deal or Ron would have known from 5 older brothers that they were needed and not been so surprised.

I think that if there is any type of fete/party/dance it will be outside of school. Maybe something involving the Ministry that they are invited too (not that Harry is back in favor) Or it will be after Voldemort is defeated presuming that they are still alive to celebrate.

edit: we've never heard of "graduation" at all. All references have been made to "leaving" school. (In the QWC chapter in GOF. Harry mentions running into Oliver who had "left" school the previous year.

SnowyOwl

August 6th, 2003, 7:04 pm

I'm inclined to believe that the students are going to need their dress robes again. Molly asks Ron if he wants a new set of dress robes after he is made Prefect. Fred and George state that they already bought him some. I just don't think that the topic would have been brought up again if they would not be needed anymore.

Fairydust

August 6th, 2003, 7:13 pm

Something you're overlooking - we don't have GRADUATION!! here in England when we finish school. We GRADUATE!! when we finish university. And we don't have GRADUATION!! balls either at school or university.

well that just sucks for muggles then. ;)

but this is hogwarts. a graduation ball is possible.

(on another note, no graduation dance or nothing, that sucks.)

JenJen

August 6th, 2003, 7:38 pm

I hope there's another ball, cause I could see how JKR could elaborate on all the "boy/girl stuff" that she's starting with. I don't think she'd put one in if it didn't have a reason, though. Maybe instead of a Graduation Ball, maybe something celebrating Voldie's downfall or something...I think there'd have to be a really good reason for JKR to put another ball in.

On a side note (not trying to sound insulting, just thoughtful - don't take it the wrong way!!!:blush:), it seems kinda strange that graduating isn't a big deal in England...it's a big deal here in America.

Sarmi

August 6th, 2003, 8:05 pm

I'll just say this.....

I would like to see another ball or dance in the next book. I just hope it's not a disaster like the Yule Ball was.

Does England have Sadie Hawkin's Theme dances??? A Sadie Hawkin's Dance is where the girls as the ask the guys for a date.

:shrug:

We'll see......I just hope it's soon!!!

Sarmi

Fairydust

August 6th, 2003, 8:06 pm

here in Canada, too. graduation's big at my school. but i won't be able to graduate till 2005. *sigh* 2 more years at school.

Honestly, i think i said this before, but anyway, there was total foreshadowing in the chapter of the Yule Brawl. "Next time there's a ball ask me before someone else does..." I'm pretty sure that that was a way of JK telling us that tehre will be another ball and that Ron will ask Hermione "before someone else does"

Hazelnutt1230

August 6th, 2003, 8:10 pm

Yeah....i heard from somewhere that JKR said feelings between Ron and Hermione will develope in the next book...I'll look for the interview...anyway...the ball would be a great way to show their feelings toward eachother.

humongoratdropping

August 6th, 2003, 9:01 pm

I wonder how Luna and Neville will behave at a ball towards each other though...

humongoratdropping

August 8th, 2003, 9:46 am

This thread is taking an interesting route; from Hogwarts ball discussion all the way to proms in England and the ole US of A....lol

Hpmons

August 8th, 2003, 10:09 am

My sister just left school. We go to an all girls school. They had a end-of-school ball/prom. It was an GIRLS ONLY prom!
England doesnt really have end-of-school/university etc proms or anything. The only things I know about proms is from those strange American High School films and TV programmes...

Anyway. Back about Hogwarts.
I dont think ther ewill be a ball, for the simple reason that they arent held at Hogwarts.
The Yule Ball was only held becuase it was the Triwizard Tournlament thing (which considering Cedric died, I dont think we will have another one). No ball or anything has ever been mentioned in Harry Potter, apart frot the Yule Ball. And surely teachers and Dumbledore have enough on their hands without having to organise a Ball!

Ecthelion

August 8th, 2003, 11:30 am

I'm going to agree with the majority of the people here and say there isn't going to be a Hogwart's funded dance/ball.

What I do potentially see is some other formal event where a dance might be in the order. Naturally, it will only include the trio and possible a few others...but that's who we want to be included anyways :agree: What I'm thinking is like some sort of ceremony...Bill/Fleur married perhaps? Something hosted by the Twins in celebration of their store? I don't really know anything that is truelly realistic, but I think that having one of those special occasions spring up on us, including a dance or whatnot within, could be possible. Heck, I know I'd welcome it, it may answer a lot of questions as to whom is pairing up with whom...something I think the whole muggle world wants to find out :D

GilyAnn

August 10th, 2003, 5:12 pm

Forgive me for not reading anything as I just want to say something.

I really do believe that there will be a ball for some odd reason. Otherwise JKR wouldn't keep mentioning the Dress robes. I do believe that in book 4 the pattern was too early to start forming so I do believe that if there is another ball Harry will go with Ginny and Ron will go with Hermione.

Gily Ann

tk_ravenprime

March 10th, 2004, 6:23 pm

Hi fellow fans....
in GoF the occassion was the TRIWARD yule ball, however remember that now they are in 6 year, a year away from graduation....this brings to mind to me "JR prom". Ginny attended the yule ball because she was asked, leaving open the assumption the guys could have been asked in previous years by older girls, but I have rarely seen an older female classmate ask a younger classmate out. and by younger I dont mean in years, I mean class level (jrs asking sopohmores or freshmen).
on a separate note....has jkr mentioned what grade is designated as "1st year"? I know harry is 11 in 1st year, but does that mean 4th or 5th grade in England? Anyone know? Reply is appreciated. thanx

Doggy

March 10th, 2004, 6:29 pm

I don't think there will be a ball in coming books. The ball in GoF was, as a lot of people have pointed out, because of the Triwizard contest, and nothing else. And since there's not going to be a Triwizard contest in Hogwarts for ages, there won't be a Triwizard ball either.

About the "prom" thing, I'm trusting the members (such as Hpmons) who have said that there aren't proms in Britain. And since Hogwarts is very like muggle schools in Britain - apart from the magic bit - JKR probably wouldn't put in a prom here.

Besides, if she would, there would have been one each year, and don't you guys think Harry would have heard of one before now?

Nephel

March 10th, 2004, 10:26 pm

Yea i had my leavers do in YR 11, high school, after exams were over, so I think it's possible JKR will include them, maybe after NEWTS.

Puffskein

March 11th, 2004, 1:54 pm

About the "prom" thing, I'm trusting the members (such as Hpmons) who have said that there aren't proms in Britain. And since Hogwarts is very like muggle schools in Britain - apart from the magic bit - JKR probably wouldn't put in a prom here.

My school had a leavers' ball! Let's not rule out the chance that everyone will get another chance to get their dress robes on.

tk_ravenprime

March 11th, 2004, 3:57 pm

hello again....
I had a chance to catch on some of the additional postings. I see that uk has no prom event, however, that doesnt rule out having a ball, no pun intended. It was posted after mine by DOGGY about not being one or else JKR would have shown it. No disrespect intended, but that is not entirely accurate. there are 3 primary characters (hp, rw, hg) and about 15 main characters (or secondarys).....besides harry's, how many birthdays have we seen celebrated or mentioned? However we take it for granted that the other characters have celebrated birthdays.
I will grant that maybe not a "yule ball" or maybe not a "prom" but I am sure that there is probably a reason to have a "ball" (NPI), we as fans havent seen it b/c it hasnt promoted the story line in a significant way (harry caught the snitch, butterbeer pls....hp passed the test, butterbeer pls)....pretty soon it becomes "HARRY POTTER AND THE HOARDED BUTTERBEER" (hahaha....ok, its lame).
That was why I agreed that it MIGHT BE possible to slide one in again. Ms Rowling, if you read this, you have my vote for another party....

TheFifthMarauder

March 14th, 2004, 8:54 pm

I was just joking...yeah...a Hogwarts prom...frilly dresses would be really funny, though....dressing Muggle style....

That would be interesting.
"Harry, this thing on my neck is choking me!"
"Yes, Ron, I think that's the point of a bow tie."
Hm...I'm getting ideas for a fanfic...

Ok, back on topic. I think it'll be great if there was a ball in the 6th or 7th book. Adds a bit of "romantic turmoil" into the story, but not too much, because that could ruin the whole thing.

honeycombe

June 6th, 2004, 9:52 pm

there will be a ball but maybe not a hogwarts one - maybe there will be a formal event to od with the ministry and ron invites hermione or something. anyway if there is one it will be in book 6 cos a leavers one in book 7 just wouldn't fit, i mean it will be the FINAL BATTLE and loads of people will apparantley die maybe even harry himself.

Silkeng

June 7th, 2004, 3:05 am

It may not be a ball at all she could come up with many a situation for them to get closer, a ball has been done she may find another way for them to gather together. I like the idea of some sort of ministry get together or the Order having some kind of gathering. It is the right time as they are now going to be sixteen and relationships should be on their minds (from what i know of teenagers this should be thier first priority).

CaseyAlthea

June 7th, 2004, 3:46 am

Wouldn't it be just like JKR to have a dance (or I really, really like the idea of a Bill/Fleur wedding where people end up dancing) at the very end of the last book? "Ding, dong, Voldemort's dead, the wicked Voldemort, the mean 'ol Voldemort, etc., etc."

That way all the shippers could continue their posting right up until the end!

Rinn Shiryuu

June 7th, 2004, 3:20 pm

Yes yes, another Ball would be cool. Maybie the pairings would be made? The proper ones? Love Power? But I don't think there would be a Ball in their 6th year. Maybie 7th? Graduation? If yes, so why all of the years don't have a Ball on Graduation? Or maybie they have, but it's secret to all the younger years? Oh, I'm starting to say stupid things. *shuts up*

*silently cheers about Draco asking Hermione out* Don't want to be crushed by all of you R/Hr and H/Hr - ers here :D

Why, I had a nice idea for a fanfic. Go me.

moon781

June 7th, 2004, 3:52 pm

There could be a ball as a end of school thing in book 7.

However, being that I don't think the end will be very pleasant, I can't see there being this light happy ball going on either.

Hogwarts Lake

June 7th, 2004, 5:13 pm

I don't think there will be a ball in book 7 so if it will be it'll have to be in book 6 which I don't think is likely. It would be really sad with so many people dead in book 7 :( But, maybe they could go somewhere...to another school perhaps? no? lol

JasmineFlower

June 7th, 2004, 8:36 pm

I agree that there HAS to be a reason for Ron to wear his new dress robes...they were mentioned multiple times...and I'm betting Ron looks good in them! (Will Hermione think so? ;) )

Da_Chinkster

June 7th, 2004, 9:03 pm

I think there'll be another ball half way through six or towards the beginning of seven. I think they'll have the ball to introduce the couples as they will be at the end of the series (i.e confirm Heron or Harmony ships)

PrincessJess

June 7th, 2004, 9:24 pm

I think that Ron and Hermione will get to gether, but i thought it was alot less obvious in the books that in the films. But the film guys wouldnt put it in if there wasnt a future, would they?

Marissa

June 7th, 2004, 9:36 pm

I think that Ron and Hermione will get to gether, but i thought it was alot less obvious in the books that in the films. But the film guys wouldnt put it in if there wasnt a future, would they?

Ya JK said something about adding little things in to foreshadow what was too come...
my inner eye is seeing a Ron and Hermione hook up.

Might as well make their new name now "Romione"..yes...

lovekuroneko

June 7th, 2004, 11:32 pm

The ball might be in the middle of 7, or perhaps even as a celebration over Voldemort, but it'd be kinda ironic if Harry died and everybody went and celebrated.. ehh

maybe there will be a celebration NOT at hogwarts, or for some unexpected occasion. obviously, ron's new robes aren't going to lie around forever without being tried on!

PitterPotter

June 8th, 2004, 12:37 am

I definitely think there will be a occasion for dress robes coming up in Book 6. Ron's new dress robes have been mentioned too many times to think there won't be a chance for him to be wearing them sometime soon. I don't think it will be a ball at Hogwarts though. I was thinking along the lines of a Ministry Ball (say when Mr. Weasley is made the MOM perhaps? (just speculating)). I suppose even if it wasn't Arthur who was appointed the entire Weasley family might be invited to a Ministry Ball (and of course so would Harry). The other occasion might be a Bill/Fleur wedding which I also speculate might occur in Book 6. I suppose we shall all just have to wait and see, but I would not be the least surprised to see some sort of formal occasion in Book 6. I think Book 7 will be all about the final chapter of the war and there won't be any type of celebratory occasion (well, until the Epilogue I suppose).

harripottrfreek

June 8th, 2004, 12:41 am

The only good that could come from another ball would be finding out proper coupling and that JKR would not use the term Yule Ball for it because Yule Balls come with the Triwizard Tournament and yeah...it just bugs me in fan fiction ...everytime there is a ball its a Yule Ball which is incorrect hehe.

CaseyAlthea

June 8th, 2004, 4:04 am

Wonder if it could be a Percy / Penelope Clearwater wedding?

But then, maybe the Weasley's won't be invited.

Or is Penelope out of the picture? Or are they too young? What happened to that relationship?

Josiah45

June 8th, 2004, 4:05 pm

I don't think anyone will get together. (even though H/Hr would be so great)

moon781

June 8th, 2004, 4:20 pm

It would be interesting to see what a wizard wedding would be like...

honeycombe

June 8th, 2004, 5:12 pm

i thought yule ball just meant christmas ball (like yule tide) so thechnically (if true) there could be another one - but i don't think there will anyway. no, my bets on a ministry thing.

Avior

June 8th, 2004, 5:27 pm

I find it doubtful that there will be another ball in their sixth year, however, it is still possible. i think that if there was to be a ball, it would be to promote unity amongst the students or even to offer a distraction from the war raging outside Hogwarts. On the other hand, if Hogwarts doesn't have a party, perhaps the ministry will have some sort of celebration to honour the great Harry Potter (you know, the one that was considered a mind-less attention seeker). I can definitely see the ministry trying to suck up and pretend everything's hunky-dory.

LilyEvans

June 8th, 2004, 5:32 pm

Hmm. First, I live in the UK and we have a 'prom' - well, we call it a formal and have it at a hotel, but same kind of idea...

Second, there may well be another ball....after all, Ron has his new dress robes, doesn't he? But it may be in the seventh book, IMO, rather than the sixth.

dobydoo

June 8th, 2004, 5:38 pm

Da_Chinkster

June 8th, 2004, 5:47 pm

But in the first ball he liked Cho but didnt go with her. Harry could pretty much ask anyone he wanted. He might even ask Ginny. There are plenty of girls to go around

honeycombe

June 8th, 2004, 5:52 pm

ron and hermione!!!

honeycombe

June 8th, 2004, 5:55 pm

the good thing about a ministry thing would be that draco would be there with his mum - and this is really the only time i can think of seeing his mum properly and j.k. said in an interview we'll be seeing a lot more of her now that lucious is in azkaban

dobydoo

June 8th, 2004, 6:13 pm

But in the first ball he liked Cho but didnt go with her. Harry could pretty much ask anyone he wanted. He might even ask Ginny. There are plenty of girls to go around

That is true, also Hermione had a date (as did Ginny). I just stated one possible scenario. Are you say that if there was a ball that Harry could not ask Hermione?

Puckle

June 8th, 2004, 6:53 pm

hermione and ron seem to be a sure bet for any social gatherings but nor harry and ginny they have never really beeen close or had any real conversations have they? it seems to me to be more of a neville and ginny ordeal than harry and ginny i hope fleur and bill get married to see a wizard wedding as well as a ministry ball bringing in Mrs. Malfoy to the picture ???????????????????????????????????????????????hmmmmmmm?

honeycombe

June 8th, 2004, 7:22 pm

aren't fleur and bill a bit young tho - and where would j.k. fit it in? o the dilemna

Puckle

June 8th, 2004, 7:50 pm

j.k. ?

Lavender Brown

June 8th, 2004, 9:45 pm

If there were to be a ball in the 7th book, it would have to be in the middle, because even if J.K rowling doesn't kill one of the 3 main characters, one of the secondary characters is almost definatley going to die, and in that case I don't see them all gathering to celebrate even if (when) they defeat Voldemort.

Marix

June 8th, 2004, 9:49 pm

I don't think that there is going to be a ball .I mean it would be very stupid-"The war hes begun,let's celebrate!"

dobydoo

June 11th, 2004, 12:07 am

what is this, footloose? there should always be a time to dance

Tearbear

June 11th, 2004, 12:36 am

Kev22

June 11th, 2004, 12:50 am

well, personally i believe that ron and hermione will eventually end up together. How? not so sure but i think that it will happen by accident, kind of like the way they almost held hands in POA. I think that they might like the way this sort of "accident" happened and like being together, so they decide to be together. I don't think harry will have any love interst, just because the way things with him and cho went.

blueraingirl

June 11th, 2004, 1:07 am

I hope harry doesen't go out with Ginny yet, though I do hope they end up together in the end. It would be great if he could end up with Ginny when they are older, and for this reason they should not go out yet. You can't go out with the person you are going to be with forever without ever dating anyone else first! (I don't think Harry's 'date' with Cho Chang counts...) At least in reality, it would not usually work. But this is fiction, so I guess sure. Let him go out with Ginny. It is obvious that Ron and Hermione will go out, though I don't know if there will be a ball.

bowlwoman

June 11th, 2004, 9:30 am

It makes more sense to have something outside of school, like a MoM event (I agree with whoever posted it might be Arthur ushered in as Minister), wedding or party given by the Twins to celebrate their shop.

What about one of the parents hosting a formal get-together for the group? Maybe Neville's grandmother is so proud of his progress that she decides to throw a party for his friends that helped him?

bowlwoman

Albusdaughter

June 11th, 2004, 10:05 am

Well there was never an answer to when the Triwizard Tournament took place year after year, just like the Olympics take place over so many years etc. So we really have no reference to go on about another Ball, since they both go hand in hand..Though I doubt there will be another TT in the next books..

I got the impression that the Triwizard was every 5 years, did'nt Dumbledore say so at the start of term feast? Don't have my GoF with me to check. If that was the case there definately wouldn't be another Triwizard even if they do another one after the debacle of 4 champions and a fatality. Plus it would probably be the turn of Durmstrang or Beauxbatons to host it.

I am inclined to think that any formal partying would be outside Hogwarts. A Bill/Fleur wedding would be just the thing. Unless there is an event only for older students, years 6 & 7.

Prof.Blink

June 11th, 2004, 1:17 pm

Maybe there will be one at the end of book 7. You know, like and end of school summer ball for all the seventh year students. I know my school definately had one. it would make a nice ending to the book. Everyone saying their goodbyes to hogwarts and each other, a few speeches and maybe remembering everyone who was lost during the war. I doubt there will be one in book 6.

CaseyAlthea

June 11th, 2004, 1:53 pm

Perhaps the ball would introduce the war? I like the idea of the MoM hosting a strange, uncomfortable function where Harry and Dumbledore are to be honored. Everyone could be gliding about in jewels and sparkling dresses, the candles flickering against the velvet black of the night, Mr. And Mrs. Weasley exchange loving glances as they waltz ... perhaps there will be a brief embrace by members of a particular ship....

And then ... will the punch be poisoned? Perhaps a basilisk will appear? Dum-da-dum!

Sorry. I'm a bit giddy this morning. Must be because it's Friday.

dobydoo

June 11th, 2004, 4:12 pm

I kind of like the Bill/Fleur Wedding idea. Do you think Luna and Neville would be invited?

Avior

June 11th, 2004, 4:45 pm

dobydoo, I think Neville would be invited because isn't he from a respectable old wizarding family, or something like that, and Luna might be invited because the Lovegoods live nearby, so there must be some sort of association apart from Ginny's friendship with Luna. And it would be really interesting meeting Luna's dad

jen15poms

June 11th, 2004, 6:42 pm

It would be interesting for Hogwarts to have a ball again. First of all, I think Ron would be the first to ask Hermione to be his date this time, instead of using her as his last resort. Also, it would be fun to see who Harry ends up asking to the ball...maybe that could be the start of a romantic relationship for him and another girl! (Since he's finally over Cho, there has to be someone else he has his eye on!)

EmpressNikita88

June 14th, 2004, 12:17 am

Dottie

June 14th, 2004, 12:21 am

I doubt there will be another ball,considering all that has happened with Voldemort and the death eaters.It seems somewhat frivolous to have a huge party when the entire magical community is on alert to the return of The Dark Lord. :huh:

Well, on the other hand, why let the students not have any fun? They're still young, and keeping things stiffly serious at Hogwarts doesn't seem like it will accomplish much of anything.

jcuzo

June 14th, 2004, 1:32 am

i'd imagine that seventh years had a formal at hogwarts as a celebration for their education coming to an end

PottyTyme

June 14th, 2004, 3:46 am

loving this thread so far, great ideas all! But i can't believe i'm the only one that's thought of this so far (i'm not trying to be stuck up, but i think it's a pretty good theory):
Hagrid will ask Maxime to marry him.
what do you think? i think it's a go, because they are obviously interested in each other, they did go to recruit giants together, and Hagrid said something about getting Grawp a lady friend--most likely to keep him from getting lonely while the Hagrid's do the honeymoon thing.
Think about it. What else can Hagrid offer to the Order at the moment? he doesn't really seem to have much of a full schedule, if he really wanted to start a family Grubbly-Plank could continue doing his lessons, and there was that whole "we <3 Hagrid" scene in CoS which we still haven't found the point of.
It's the opportunity we've been looking for! Many guests invited by Dumbledore (maybe people from the ministry? Fudge, Lovegoods, Malfoys -minus Lucius-), a great dance thing to shed some happy light in all this darkness.
I've actually began writing a fanfiction on this theory (link below). just thought it was interesting.
well, that's my opinion anyway...yeah...

cheers!
~o~ PottyTyme ~o~

gryffin_hauz_88

November 27th, 2004, 7:51 am

Well, I guess, if there's another ball in book 6... Ron and Hermione would love it... :blush: what I mean is the shippers... (and I'm one of them!!!)

Somnombulist

November 27th, 2004, 9:04 am

personally i think it will be a hogsmeade trip in which the first hour is interupted by an attack further postponing any shipping. MWAHAHAHAHA!

JBaker

November 27th, 2004, 10:07 am

Before I start, I beg of people responding to my thread, do not come in here blasting my views and promoting your ship. I just want to start a little discussion on this topic and not have someone come in and yell HARRY/HERMIONE FOREVER and turn this thread into a back and forth argument between Ron/Hermione supporters and Harry/Hermione supporters. Sorry if I sound a bit angry, but this has happened more than one time to me and it always ruins my threads, and casues me to try and seek my answers else where.

I was thinking there might be a ball in book six. What I mean to say is its pretty obvious Ron/Hermione have mutual feelings for each (to some extent) and niether is going to admit it to the other any time soon. It is going to take something to force them (or at least Ron) to make the first move. Plus it would be a good way for us to get an idea of who Harry's next love intrest will be (personally I feel it will be Ginny, but there is not enough evidence in the books to make me certain of this).

Any ideas, opinions, or predictions on this?

It's quite possible to see another ball later. The main problem with this is that we ahven't been given any hints that there are annual balls at Hogwarts. Perhaps a victory ball or something to take their minds off the war might be reason enough for another ball but that is more fanfictionish then anything.

As for the rest, that's pure speculation, especially the Hermione having feelings for Ron.

Really? That's interesting, we use the British education system here(British colony till 1962) and there's a graduation dinner and dance at every school, that's pretty much a ball. Thats graduating from normal schooling, not University which comes later on. You graduate from one stage of your education and go on to start another.

Well I know that over here (while not british, we have similiar customs) and there is a graduation ball (called a formal) which happens on the last day of school.

Tane

November 27th, 2004, 11:44 am

Yes that happens normally in Britain, a leavers ball which is why I think we would be more likely to see another ball in book 7 rather than book 6 because there is no reason for having such a ball in book 6, well none that I can think of.

niffler12

November 27th, 2004, 6:53 pm

Honestly I too am getting a little tired of all the shipping. Only so much room in a harbor you know. Another Ball sounds brilliant. I enjoyed the one in GoF, just the way everyone acted. I guess if indeed there is a ball sometime in the next books, a few relationships could become more serious or finally be recognized. Though I doubt EVERYONE's loneliness will suddenly be cured. Another Ball sounds great to me...wouldn't it be spiffy to see Hermione poppin' and lockin'....
Cheers.

Egla

November 27th, 2004, 8:14 pm

JakeOfRavenclaw

November 27th, 2004, 8:23 pm

What would be the occasion for a ball in book 6? On the other hand, I think that a graduation ball in book 7 could be likely...but if it was an annual thing you might think that we would have heard something about it by now...

And I'm not going to go and promot my ship...*COUGHharry+ginnyCOUGH* :p

Selene Sedai

November 28th, 2004, 3:09 am

In book seven there may not be time for balls/dances... it would be a graduation one and by the end, i'm guessing we have the Final Battle taking up all the space. Maybe in book 6 though! The Yule Ball was in book 4 so it could be in book 6 as it skipped a book... but there will most likely be another occasion, if not a dance, that requires the students to wear their dress robes. It would be a shame if Ron never got to use his new ones... ;)

Avada Kedavra

November 28th, 2004, 4:09 am

A ball would be too much of a tangent for such dire times...plus there's little cause for celebration.

Harry would not need the ball for anything really; he's much too busy with anything else to worry,
and Ron would probably just fight with his date just like Yule, whether it be Lavender, Luna, or
Hermione. Book 7 may be good though, where they'd celebrate the vanquish of Lord Voldemort
forever, but yeah we'll get to that when it comes, ya.

Oh, yes, and I'm not promoting my ship here, that's for the Love thread, right? (first one to detect the ship gets a cookie)