June 24, 1942 (6-2-4-4-2)

[LESTRANGEMUSTDIE]

6-2-4-4-2: the passcode to the ministry of magic. on june 24, 1942, ive no idea what happened. im currently searching. i have found this (http://john.curtin.edu.au/letters/category/newspapers/clippings/N.013.html) though.
if you go there and click on transcript, heres what pops up:
Upper House unpopular
Sixty-Eight per cent of Sydney's population think that the new South Wales Upper House should be abolished. (theres more, but tis quite boring and long...)

in other words, ive found nothing. :cool: lol. i dunno... any thoughts? i know it sounds stupid, but tis something to do... if anyone finds anything else, post it here please.
*shrugs* :shrug:

[potterfreak24]

SOmeone on here pointed out that if you look at a telephone key pad the letters on those specific numbers can speel out M-A-G-I-C .

[MalfoyIsMINE]

Yeah, i think it just is the MAGIC on the key pad on the phone and nothing more....but you never know!

[LESTRANGEMUSTDIE]

well that would explain the meaning. much easier than trying to find out what significant event took place 61 years ago... thanks. someone can close this now that i feel like the epitome of geek. :p

[Daveydee]

Remember that JK is a British author. Here in Britain that date would be written as: 24-6-42.

No need to look too deeply - the fact that those numbers spell MAGIC on the telephone keypad was deep enough for most people. It certainly passed me by.

[sindatur]

Actually, LESTRANGEMUSTDIE, that is interesting. On June 24, 1942, an upper house in Government should be abolished? This is the magical government we're talking about, possibly something there.

[basilisk170]

i don't know. but i defenatly think your on to something!

[Daveydee]

Yes but 2-4-6-4-2 is not the pass code to the MoM !

[rotsiepots]

Actually, LESTRANGEMUSTDIE, that is interesting. On June 24, 1942, an upper house in Government should be abolished? This is the magical government we're talking about, possibly something there.

Yes, but an upper house in New South Wales, Australia. I doubt this rather paltry incident in Australia's short history has anything to do with foreshadowing or the Ministry code. :)

[Cat]

Don't feel bad, LESTRANGEMUSTDIE. People always search for complicated answers and overlook the simple ones. It's human nature.

The phone in this room doesn't have the alphabet with the numbers. But I knew that it spelled 'Magic' because I checked on a different phone.

[Mad Eye Mike]

Think of it this way as well:

6 2+4 4+2 = 666

[caroline40]

Wasnt Voldemort supposed to have been born around that time?

[Hpmons]

Lol, this can have so many meanings...Im going off to London to put 62442 into every phonebox I can find...

I think the real thing about it is that it spells out MAGIC. It is pure coincindence about the thing that happened on that day, and that it adds up to 666.

[rotsiepots]

Wasnt Voldemort supposed to have been born around that time?

No, but I believe that Chamber of Secrets was first opened in 1942 by Tom Riddle.

*insert Twilight Zone music here*

[phoenixsong]

Oh, rotsiepots! Even though I'm mourning the loss of the Rainbow Belt siggie, I love the Holy Gel!

But back on topic - holy cow, I think you're right about the Chamber being opened in 1942, though it couldn't have been on June 24, since that is after term ends, right? I don't have my copy of CoS here...

[Pucko]

i think you're searching too deeply for a different meaning, and as Daveydee said, in Britain the date june 24th 1942 would be written as 24/6 42..so it doesn't work anyways
so the 62442 spells magic on a telephone and that's probably all there is to it

[morgan le fay]

does anyone know at approximately what time grindelwald was defeated??? could it have been june 24, 1942??

[Pinkerton]

*faint laugh* I never noticed the phone thing. My guess was the whole 6-6-6 deal and it somehow representing a evil in the Ministry or something..

[dumbleedore]

does anyone know at approximately what time grindelwald was defeated??? could it have been june 24, 1942??

Grindelwald was defeated in 1945

[PhoenixUK]

Well, the Nazi's killed about 1000 people in reprisal for the assasination of Heydrich. But somehow, I think that the magical thing would be more likely. And, as people have said, in Britain, the date is written
dd/mm/yy

not in the American format, so looking at this date maybe a mistake in itself.

Still, good work, though :)

[Morgan LeFay]

When I saw it I thought about the Dumbledore's victory over Grinewald (sp?), but I checked and it was in 1945. You're right - the date is written different in Europe (or, at least, in my country and UK). And it's rather impossible that Tom Riddle came back to Hogwarts in July just to open the Chamber of Secrets. No one would come back to school during summer holidays. ;)
So I think it's just m-a-g-i-c.

[Wab]

Go with MAGIC as already pointed out just about everywhere but the US has a dd/mm/yy system.

And coming from NSW where the upper house is alive and well (even if some of the members appear otherwise) I doubt there's much to that.

[angel14]

so given the UK arrangement it'll be 6-Feb-1442 and I think if I recall my theology it's got something to do with "THE ECUMENICAL COUNCIL of FLORENCE"

[Priori Incantatem]

When i first read it i agreed with the MAGIC spelling...however, i like the thought of it being related to the chamber of secrets...in interviews you always hear of how there is something very important in there. Noone knows yet what it is and noone knows what it isn't. June 24th...that could be one of the last days of the term. I know schools that get out the 29th. Hogwarts can run late into June. Could that be when hagrid was expelled? Everyone believed it to be him and the monster, the unknown was gone. Does it signify that disciplinary procedures can get rid of the rest? sorta? no, i just want it to have some really cool meaning...someone think of something good!

[Zachary1993]

SOmeone on here pointed out that if you look at a telephone key pad the letters on those specific numbers can speel out M-A-G-I-C .I agree that it may be the magic thing that they numbers spell magic on the phone. THat would make sence unless someone was born on the day mentioned.

[Catgirl]

Actually, schools in Britain break up in mid July. At least every one of the seven schools in three different parts of the country I've ever been to have broken up mid July. The rest of the schools are the same. Hogwarts might be different, but I think when there is no evidence otherwise, we could assume that Hogwarts works the same way as the rest of Britain.

As there are no American characters in Harry Potter, I think it's silly to assume that someone would use a code with an American date. This is the British Ministry of Magic after all.

It could as angel suggested mean the sixth of Febuary 1442, but I think it is more likely to mean sixth of Febuary 442, as they could have easily put the one in too. Remember, the wizards have a very long and colourful history. The sign above Ollivanders said that they were established in four hundred and something BC. Not all significant wizarding events have to have happened this last century or even this millennium. (Remember HP is set pre 2000, so it's still the 20th century there.)

[Nys]

[QUOTE=rotsiepots]Yes, but an upper house in New South Wales, Australia. I doubt this rather paltry incident in Australia's short history has anything to do with foreshadowing or the Ministry code. :)[/QUO

I agree, specially since the upper house in New South Wales wasn't abolished, the only state of Australia who did this was Queensland (I'm from there). And I don't see what this would have to do with an English writer.

[persian85033]

Maybe that's when he killed his father and his grandparents. probably he liked killing after killing Moaning Myrtle. He killed them in the summer, didn't he? And perhaps the knowledge that he was Slytherin's heir made him want revenge more, and made him more vicious.

[stephmurden]

Just as an interesting thought did you know that:
LV was born in 1927
He opened the chamberin 42
and is currently 68 years old.

Cool!!!

Now back on track I think it might actually mean all of those. Ha!! MAybe LV is controlling the MoM magically. You know with the whole 666 thing and the year 1942. Well anyways. You have heard my ramblings.
Toodleoo.

[Rowlingfan1]

Just as an interesting thought did you know that:
LV was born in 1927
He opened the chamberin 42
and is currently 68 years old.

Cool!!!

Now back on track I think it might actually mean all of those. Ha!! MAybe LV is controlling the MoM magically. You know with the whole 666 thing and the year 1942. Well anyways. You have heard my ramblings.
Toodleoo.

Yeah, didn't Voldemort graduate in 1942?

[Lupin_Lady]

I can't imagine JKR putting this much thought into all this. She admits that she dislikes and is no good at maths.

[Nymphadora*]

I don't know if J.K Rowling would of thought of all that and consider LV's age and graduation year and everything.(By the way Rowlingfan!, i found that information interesting.Cool!:))

Perhaps the numbers, are what some itgers have previously posted, spell MAGIC. After all it is the Ministry of Magic. I don't think it's any complicated than that.

[Rowlingfan1]

Actually, I did the Math, and apparently, Tom was only 15. Sorry. But maybe a Mathimaticion (spell-check?) could figure it out.

[Obizo Samaruga]

Something related to 1942 could be fine. It was during WWII and I'm still looking for clues that could link the Wizarding Wars against Voldemort to some war sometimes somewhere in the English history.

So, certainly not June 2nd 1942. RJ Rowling is English, a pureblood londoner (despite she lives in Scotland), and she would certainly use the european date format.

So, 6th Febraury 1942. But what did happen then? The Axis was still on the edge during that time. Bataan was under siege, and the Japanese manaced to take over Australia as well. In North Africa, Rommel was fighting around Bir Hacheim, that was a really important battle, and in Norway was set the Quisling's collaborationist regime.

But what about a couple of other 6th februaries? Shall we go back to the Charles I times? 1642? This is reminded as the first year of the Civil Wars, which lasted around 20 yeras. As the Wizarding wars.

The aristocrat supporters of Charles I (Lord Voldemort? The Death Eaters?) against the roundheads (mudblood?)? As who's Charles II? Lord Voldemort when comes back to life?

But it would be too intellectual. Perhaps, the spell of M-A-G-I-C is the most probable solution.

[Scarlet Tears]

Just to clear up any confusion about Voldemort's past, according to the Lexicon (and Riddle's Diary), Hagrid was framed by Tom as the Heir of Slytherin on June 13, 1942 (which was Tom's fifth year). It also says that his last year at Hogwarts was in 1944-45, which is also when Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald (according to the Famous Witches and Wizards Card). I'm not sure about the June 24, 1942, but I hope this information will help.

[Kev22]

you could be on to something here. not quite sure what yet, but you definately could be on to something that happens later in the book.

[aggiewitch]

A lot of the dates mentioned can be looked at in a fairly well researched timeline found in the Harry Potter Lexicon: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timelines/timeline_overall.html#Main It's a fairly well accepted timeline...

[Padfoot_001]

I was trying to figure out how old Voldamort but I got 68 as well and thought I had made a mistake, thats a little disappointing to think hes that old, I expected him to younger than 68. Oh well, not so bad.

Just out of curiosity did you know the number you put on this post is useful with a certain mobile phone on a certain web site. (does anyone know anymore?) :huh:

[Shaadi]

I have found something. The 24th June of 1942, France entered to the WWII with the Allies. In Harry Potter's books, we can find references to the WWII, like the blood, or the defeat of Grindewald in 1945. Would it be a reference to an union against Grindewald?

Sorry if you don't understand very well my message, I'm Spanish so I haven't got a good level of English. If you don't understand something, say it, I will try to put it better ;)

[jennymac]

did you know that voldy also killed his parents in 1945? :) i know, off topic but i thought i would share. COS states he frames hagrid 50 years ago, in 1942. GOF states he killed his parents 50 years ago, in 1945...

anyway, continue your discussion :p

[WeasleyH]

June 24 is Bannockburn Day in Scotland...

06/24/1942 - Africa Corps occupy Egypt
06/24/1942 - Mick Fleetwood, London, rock drummer (Fleetwood Mac) :)
There was a Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig earthquake in NZ.

June 24, 1942 was right around the time Churchhill came over to the US to see Eisenhower.

All I got. ;)

[moon781]

hm that is interesting. I think its probably just the whole magic thing, but it is interesting that 1942 is when the chamber of secrets was opened...

[Katy Kedevra]

I have found something. The 24th June of 1942, France entered to the WWII with the Allies. In Harry Potter's books, we can find references to the WWII, like the blood, or the defeat of Grindewald in 1945. Would it be a reference to an union against Grindewald?

Sorry if you don't understand very well my message, I'm Spanish so I haven't got a good level of English. If you don't understand something, say it, I will try to put it better ;)
I would have never known English wasn't your first language if you hadn't said anything. ;) Also, I like the idea of an alliance against Grindewald baing made. It was mentioned in another thread that maybe the Order of the Phoenix has been around much longer than we're led to believe. Maybe that was the creation date of it. :huh: