Dean, Lavender, Parvati, and Seamus--what is to become of them?

[Linnea]

...I did a search, but feel free to close this if it overlaps with another thread...

Ok. So, we all know Seamus, Parvati, Lavender, and Dean--but how much do we [/I]really[I] know? Obviously, JKR introduced us to these characters for a reason--either to build one or more of them up further in the next book, only to kill the person(s) off, or because they are a true asse, etc. What do you think? Are the characters just space-fillers, or are they going to amount to something?

[Fairydust]

I think that they were written into the plot to be just regulars. They don't really do anything spectacular and Harry knows them and they're all friends to an extent. If we wanted to get into mythology and all that then we'd know that Parvati's name is after a hindu god or something like that and I don't really know about Seamus, Dean and Lavender. Maybe they're there to cause some type of conflict. Seamus and Harry. Lavender thought Harry was a bit iffy. In a romantic sense if Harry were to like Ginny then there might be conflict between Dean and him because Dean's supposedly going out with Ginny. I think many characters are just in the books to create a little angst. Teen angst, in my opinion.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

I think they were introduced to fill space. You can't really have Gryffindor without some non-important Gryffindors. I would have wished there were at least a few others mentioned, but it doesn't really matter. Either way, they're not important.

[v@sh]

I agree with both Fairydust and hesdead-dealwithit. These are supporting characters that fill the space. It would be a bit weird of just hearing about R/H/Hr in Gryffindor, so they must have other friends. Every novel has these regulars and they are just that. I don't think they will come to the forefront like Neville or Ginny because they are not related in anyway to the main plot whereas Neville and Ginny are.

[Shikyo]

I'd agree with what just about everyone said: they're supporting characters. Story needs supporting characters: just like how most professors aside from McGonagall and Snape are simply there. Flitwick doesn't really do much aside from teach charms and the occasional encouraging word, and what's-his-face the ghost history prof is only a bit character at best. And we're not all wondering of Flitwick has some Greater Purpose or is More Then Meets The Eye (I hate that phrase, now) and is going to, in book six, lead the charge against Voldemort or reveal that he's a spy or what-have-you.

Not all of us can be lead characters in the great book o' life.

[haycheng]

They are probably support character. However, Dean may be moved up because he is dating Ginny. Seamus may also have a biggest role, may be the next target for Ginny(just kidding). Seamus may redemn himself for his behavior in OFTP. As for the two girls, I have not idea.

[Baron_G]

Dean said he thought Parvati/Padma were the "best-looking girls in the year" in GoF so if things don't work out with Ginny, he could move on.

Lavender and Parvati will probably spend time in the next book busy under two divination teachers though I don't know how that would turn out.

[Alia the Ravenclaw]

You know what? I think they're more than that.

Baron G mentioned something about Divination...Lavender and Parvati were very involved in Divination, perhaps they'll acquire better-than-average seeing abilities.

I can see Dean being mentioned a bit more if he's still dating Ginny. I also remember reading in either the PoA or GoF where his boggart was a hand, I know that he draws. Remember the lion he drew for that big banner at Harry's first Quidditch match in PS/SS?

Seamus...I was really annoyed with him being doubtful of Harry, I mean, really. I could see more character development for him, too, although I can't say in what capacity.

I do believe that they are supporting characters, but not mentioned for nothing. I mean, J.K.R. has gone into detail about these people. I mean, what for if they're just house-fillers, right?

And what about Colin Creevey and his thing for photographs? And Professor Flitwick, I believe, was a dueling champion...

[Shikyo]

Alia, thank you for missing my point. Flitwick might've been mentioned to be a dueling champion, but does he actually do much in the course of the books? Does he actually nurse Harry through a trial, have loud speeches, or otherwise is a large and noticible character? Is he as loud as some of the other teachers: Snape and McGonagall and Current DADA? So far, no. He's there so that the teaching staff is well rounded, as is...Binns. The ghost teacher for history of magic. They might have an interesting fact or two, but don't really do much to thrust the plot foward.

Back to the Gryffindor class: given that Harry is hardly a hermit, most of the time, he'd interact with the rest of his year to some extent. Of course he'd joke, make friends, make enemies with them. Even though Ron and Hermione might be his closest friends ever, that doesn't mean he won't have amicable relations with the rest of the school. And given that they're from his year they appear in every sodding book.

If Rowling only detailed the necessary people to her plot, there would be question as to who are the other teachers? And why does the school seem so...small...?

Which isn't to say that it's completely impossible that they might serve some ulterior purpose and every character we encounter in the course of Harry Potter's adventure is going to spring forth with wand in hand during the grand final conflict and help Harry out. It could happen, as story-ruining as it would be, and maybe Dean will rise to the occasion or Lavender might become a seer. Maybe.

But that doesn't mean that every scene is a death omen, that Hermione is secretly half-house elf, that Snape is Harry's cousin's aunt's sister's brother and Sirius' half-brother, and that every character mentioned in the story will serve some greater purpose that will save the world in the end.

[Gandalf_the_White]

You may see Flitwick and Binns as just bit characters in the story who are just there. However in the next two books they might even do something amazing. If Voldemort were to attack Hogwarts. Think of how much power he would have to overcome. Flitwick is a dueling champ, that couldn't be a good thing at all for any Death Eaters attempting to enter Hogwarts. You might see Flitwick standing over someone dueling with four or five death eaters. Professor Sprout has many dangerous plants at her disposal and she could use those in security purposes. Professor Binns, well i don't know anything he could do. But they all might play huge roles, anyone might really. But would one want to attack Hogwarts. Hagrid, Dumbledore, McGonagall, Snape, Flitwick, Sprout, now Firenze, Dobby and the house elves, Peeves, Thestrals, and god knows what else. Sounds like Dumbledore is making an army, Hogwarts could become a place for people to retreat too.

Basically what I am saying is that Parvati, Dean, Seamus, Lavender, all could be important, we just don't know, and the teachers do play a big part already and it will get bigger.

[Hammi]

It would be hard to write about a school with out ever mentioning other students. Thouhg they're not very close with the trio, they are in their house and are part ofd their everyday life. I think they already do play a major role. HOw many times is Dean's love for soccar mentioned? And in OOTP with Seamus's disbelievement, that had a huge impact on Harry. That someone that actually knew him and how he was really like didn't believe him.

[roberto]

I don't know what it means to the story, but Seamus is the Irish form of James.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

I don't know what it means to the story, but Seamus is the Irish form of James.

Really?! I didn't know that. How does Seamus become James? They're not at all alike.

[Shikyo]

Huh, he's right. Sounds Irish enough now that y'mention it.

Seamus Ir. Var. James. Heb. "He who supplants." "Shamus" is old-fashioned American slang for a detective, possibly because the urban police force has traditionally been heavily Irish.

[EndlessDreamer]

I don't think they'll have a major role, but because we know them pretty well I can see one or maybe more than one being killed by the DE's and Voldi, most likely Dean and someone else (Dean because he was muggle born) Just a thought

[ducky1515]

As several others have noted, Hogswart would seem pretty barren if it were only R/H/H, with a bit of Ginny, Draco and the Twins thrown in every now and then. I think the JKR has people flowing into and out of Harry's life, much the way people move in and out of our lives.

Dean, Seamus, et al, are important because these are the friends our heroes are growing up around. The first two have shared the same bedroom with Ron, Harry and Neville since they came to school five years ago. They would be the kids that joked with Harry and Ron, shared their mother's home made cookies, griped about some Transfiguration homework assignment and showed off their Christmas presents to Harry. Some will become more important (like Neville), but most of these school chums will not affect Harry's life much once school has ended. These characters are used to flavor the scenes, to give an impression as to how others in the school are feeling or thinking. Seamus, I think I remembered, was used in the last book to show how even those who know Harry, might not believe his latest revelation about Lord Voldemort.

I do think that Harry's friends, particularly the DA, will be behind him during the prelude to the final battle. But for the most part, these are minor characters and will continue to be so.

[roberto]

Really?! I didn't know that. How does Seamus become James? They're not at all alike.

There does not have to be just a simple letter change for the names to be similar, Sean is the Irish form of John. Since Irish is a celtic language and English is a germanic language that would explain why they don't look alike.

[legallybrunette]

You know what? I think they're more than that.

Baron G mentioned something about Divination...Lavender and Parvati were very involved in Divination, perhaps they'll acquire better-than-average seeing abilities.

I can see Dean being mentioned a bit more if he's still dating Ginny. I also remember reading in either the PoA or GoF where his boggart was a hand, I know that he draws. Remember the lion he drew for that big banner at Harry's first Quidditch match in PS/SS?

Seamus...I was really annoyed with him being doubtful of Harry, I mean, really. I could see more character development for him, too, although I can't say in what capacity.

I do believe that they are supporting characters, but not mentioned for nothing. I mean, J.K.R. has gone into detail about these people. I mean, what for if they're just house-fillers, right?

And what about Colin Creevey and his thing for photographs? And Professor Flitwick, I believe, was a dueling champion...
While I think they are all supporting characters, I think they will each of skills to contribute to the main characters. Obviously, Trewlaney isn't the most accurate "seer" but she has to protegees. Each person will step forward to help in some way, but only when the time is right and only in one instance. Gryffindors are noted for bravery, so I feel the entire house will come together and work together, but leave most of the work to Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny, along with Snape, Dumbledore, and the other members of the Order of the Phoenix.

[Grace Granger]

I'd like to think the best in all Gryffindors in Harry's year. I know they won't have huge roles, but the fact that they're willing to be in DA means a lot. So they'll be able to help the Trio with their fight against Voldemort.

I was upset at Seamus for being an absolute sensitive moron earlier in the book, I can only hope he trusts Harry now and will support him whenever Harry needs supporting.

[HannahStarr]

Dean: Dating Ginny at the end of OotP. May play a [slightly] bigger role because of this (until they break up, anyway.. heh)
Seamus: Most likely will do something to redeem himself, or just straight-out apologize to Harry
Parvati: went to the Yule Ball with Harry.
Lavender: .......

IMO, Parvati and Lavender may have some bigger role because they're really into Divination, as someone mentioned earlier. Maybe they can actually See something? (nah...) Overall, though, I think they're all filler characters. You can't have three Gryffs. without having some others in there as well.

[EndlessDreamer]

Didnt Seamus already apologize???

[Taking_Back_Sunday]

Didnt Seamus already apologize???

I love Lavender and Parvati because they remind me of me and my best friend. So I really hope they have a bigger part coming.

For Seamus and Dean.. well i jsut dont know..

<3 Christy

[HannahStarr]

Endless Dreamer, Seamus hasn't apologized to Harry yet, since every time he tried to Harry ignored him. After several attempts, I think he just gave up and started avoiding Harry.

[EndlessDreamer]

Really I was almost positive that he had, I think I'm gonna check that out. although I probably am wrong.

[GryffindorSeeker]

I think that they are just supporting characters. Important, but not so much. They could all easily have larger roles, but they could just stay on the sidelines. Time will tell.

[harp230]

On page 583 (American), Seamus tells Harry that he believes what Harry said after reading it in the Quibbler. Seamus later joins for the last DA meeting.

[EndlessDreamer]

On page 583 (American), Seamus tells Harry that he believes what Harry said after reading it in the Quibbler. Seamus later joins for the last DA meeting.

WHoo hoo my memory served me well!!!! Yeah whoo! sorry I didnt mean to over react!

[EndlessDreamer]

OMGoodness Yeah second year!

[rotsiepots]

Aaah, the fate of smaller characters. I doubt any of them will become any more significant than they are now (although Seamus did feature more prominently in OotP). Dean's role may be expanded due to his status as "Ginny's boyfriend", but for all we know Ginny might change her mind by the time the holidays are over and Dean could be history. She seems rather fickle. ;)

As for a future after Hogwarts, here's my two cents:

Dean will end up working for his beloved West Ham football club as the team physiotherapist. All the other teams in the league will be astounded and equally dismayed at West Ham's consistently healthy squad of players who never miss a match, even when they're apparently seriously injured.

Lavender & Parvati will end up writing romance novels with mystical overtones. Many of their plots will involve fateful relationships.

I can't think of a future for Seamus, unfortunately. Maybe that means he's destined for mediocrity?

[Grace Granger]

Lavender & Parvati will end up writing romance novels with mystical overtones. Many of their plots will involve fateful relationships.

I can't think of a future for Seamus, unfortunately. Maybe that means he's destined for mediocrity?

These three sound just about right....watch JKR prove us wrong...lol.

[legallybrunette]

Could these possibly be potential victims in the final battle? We don't have the same attachment to them as we do Harry, Hermione, Ron, so they might be those students that will fall in battle. They're Gryffindors, so they're brave...

[Buttercup]

I picture one of the girls taking over for Trelawney as divination professor. I am sure that Bane (I can't remember which centaur is the new teacher) won't last forever. He will want to go back to the forest. I am sure either girl couldn't do worse than Trelawney. If Parvati became the teacher that class would probably have a lot of boys in it since she is described as being so pretty.

As for the boys....if they survive (they could very well be Voldemort fodder) I saw Dean joins a quidditch team and Seamus becomes a chiropractor or an accountant. You can tell I have no clue but I am having fun guessing.

Cheers
Buttercup

[EndlessDreamer]

That's all that matters buttercup, as long as you have fun!

[Gnomida]

I think they are a kind of spacefillers because they are a bit importat in some situations but they are not main characters, and I don't think they has another history behind them, or at least not important in Harry's story-

[EndlessDreamer]

JK will prolly just throw a twist in lol. But its her job to prove us wrong, and keep us guessing

[edit] I'm not sure where that came from, omgoodness i think i'm loosing my mind

[lupe]

I think they each play an important roll in their own way. Lavender and her friend are like the teacher's pet of divination and kind of your typical girly girl classmate. They each have a typical classmate personality and gift that they add to the group.

[Loz]

I think that in a way these characters are supporting characters that will never have any limelight on the main stage. We really don't know that much about them compared to other characters. Certain characters were built up from an early stage so it was easy to see we'd see more of them (Neville for example, is linked with Harry from a very early stage).

[Puffskein]

Of course there have to be other pupils, but the other Gryffindors might end up being important since they were all in the DA and there is a war on which could ulimately involve the whole school.

[KatieLBell]

I think since they are all Gryffindors, in the DA and are somewhat close to Harry they will be involved in the upcoming battle. Specially Dean, now that he is dating Ginny. I think Dean will do something that has to do with drawing, like maybe political cartoons for the Prophet. Parvati will take over for Trelawney and Lavender will work with owls. Seamus will go to work for his mum in the family business.

[gryffindor g1rl]

I think they were written into the plot to be just regulars and to fill space. I'd agree with what just about everyone said: they're supporting characters. It would be hard to write about a school with out ever mentioning other students. As several others have noted, Hogwarts would seem pretty barren if it were only R/H/H, with a bit of Ginny, Draco and the Twins thrown in every now and then.

[EndlessDreamer]

hehe That would make for a very funny book,

[jen15poms]

I agree with most everything that has been said at the beginning of this thread. I think that the "minor" characters are just there to fill space. It would be pretty boring if only the main characters ever talked/were involved in a scene. I think that some minor characters will have greater roles in the future, such as Neville (he has become one of the main characters) but I think that the rest of them will just fade into the background. It is interesting to see Harry interact with other students at school, but that is all that those characters are there for.

[herbertsandbach]

These characters are probably gonna stay minor but we know with JKRowling she likes to build characters and therefore half the fun is to try and spot the future clues.

1. Seamus could be traitor to the DA, there is a hint that someone will turn over to Voldemort. The biggest risk are Cho or Seamus due to there past feelings. They could be the next Marietta Edgecomb as she won't be trusted by anyone after her Sneaking in OOTP.
2. Dean is a high profile yet expendable Muggle.....Death will take poor Dean in book 6 (something to do with the Hand of glory see other threads on here)
3. Pavarti and Padma are Hindu gods but I'm not sure what those gods are or what they did if anything is to come of the twins the clue is to find out about the gods there named after.
4.Lavender Brown is named after the song Lavender Blue.....not sure of the words but they go something about Lavender Blue,Lavender Green when you are king I shall be Queen....Any link to Weasley is our King....

There are some guesses but as others have said probably all rubbish ...lol

[CicadaInvasion]

I think they will all have to choose what they stand for and how far they are willing to go for 'freedom'

It is possible Hogwart will divide...I don't think there will be a neutral section...they will have to chose.

[soccergoddess24]

i think seamus and parvati and lavender have had their purposes...seamus, doubting harry and lavender and parvati with the whole divination class and also parvati and padma with the yule ball...dean howver, he'll be more involved because of ginny now...and they were all in the D.A, so if nothing else happens to them, they did do some things, so their not a waste to the book...and also, as everyone has said, they fill the "other" parts so it's just not the main people

[rjade829]

I picture one of the girls taking over for Trelawney as divination professor. I am sure that Bane (I can't remember which centaur is the new teacher) won't last forever. He will want to go back to the forest. I am sure either girl couldn't do worse than Trelawney. If Parvati became the teacher that class would probably have a lot of boys in it since she is described as being so pretty.


LOL, that's an interesting thought. JKR did say that one of Harry's classmates would go on to be a teacher at Hogwarts, but it's not Harry. They asked if it was Ron and she said no. She also said that it's not the one we might think, which probably meant Hermione, so the trio's out...and since Parvati and Lavender adore Professor Trelawney, maybe one of them will continue on to become a Divination teacher :)

Somehow though, I can also see Parvati and Lavender starting a fashion business together :)

And I'm curious to see how Dean and Ginny turn out. Ron better learn to deal with it :p

[crumseekerlynch]

I don't think she has been building them up.