What will Hagrid come up with next?

[You-Know-Who]

A serious question, it has been mentioned several times (three I think)

I can't remember the first time, once in Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find them, once in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
This can mean two things:
1. It's running a joke by JKR, which she re uses to amuses the readers
2. Hagrid is actually going to get a Chimeara, no matter how illegal it may be.

I go for option 2, although I'm not sure, it could be 1 as well. Oh well, do you think?

[Dark Fallen Pride]

2 I suppose
I actually had this same thought and it is always a possiblility but I honestly have no clue.

[Phoenix_Fawkes]

Fill me in whats a chimera? I havnt read beast and school books...sadly. I havnt had time to buy them. After i know what it is i can answer ur ?!

[Padfoot2003]

Head of lion, body of a goat, tail of a scorpion. I might of got a couple of those mixed up, I don't have the book with me.

[IThinkNot]

are they illegal, then?

[Phoenix_Fawkes]

that would be cool! sound like something Hagrid would want!

[FawkesBox]

I agree. I think it was typical JKR foreshadowing. Perhaps the chimera can live in the forbidden forest with Grawp and his new girlfriend :roftl:. Anyway it would be interesting for Care of Magical Creatures Class to see something dangerous like this and it rather typical of Hagrid isn't it?

[Phoenix_Fawkes]

Are chimeras illegal? I really need to get the School Books so I know these things?

[Captian Bob]

Picture a dragon.
Give it some different body parts, increase it's size, make it more viscious and smarter.

You tell me, think they are illegal?
<grin>

[Lestrange]

Chimaera

The Chimaera is a rare Greek monster with a lion's head, a goat's body, and a dragon's tail. Vicious and bloodthirsty, the Chimaera is extremely dangerous. There is only one known slayng of a Chimaera and the unlucky wizard concerned fell to his death shortly afterwards, exhausted by his efforts. Chimaera eggs are defined as Class A Non-Tradeable Goods.

*Shudder* Doesn't sound too great. I don't think that even Hagrid is stupid enough to get something like that, hopefully he'll be way too concerned with Grawp to bother with anything as dangerous as the Chimaera.

[Captian Bob]

Ya, but a chimera (or five) would be a powerful ally for the upcoming war..

[Phoenix_Fawkes]

I dono I dout you can train a thing like that! Whew! Hagrid will be busy with Grawpy but even if he wasnt I dont think Hagrid would be .... that nieve to get a chimera..... Does it say where they are found?

[preludetoadream]

heh well dumbledore2905 since when has not being able to train some thing stoped Hagrid trying :D. I could see him giving it a go.

[Koki]

Originally posted by dumbledore2905 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=396438#post396438))
that would be cool! sound like something Hagrid would want!


LOL oh my gosh I think that hagrid would want anything that is dangerous and scary!!! But yeah I agree Hagrid would certainly want one on these!!!:D

[NeedAM!nT]

It would be so cool is Hagrid got one of those things! It could actually help him control Grawp. :elaugh:

[Max]

It is rather unlikely that Hagrid will get a Chimaera, considering how dangerous they are. He would probably get himself killed anyway, if he decides to capture one, or if he decides to acquire some Chimaera eggs. And if he decides to show them a Chimaera for a Care of Magical Creatures lesson, he might as well just bring them into the Forest and introduce them to Aragog.

[ChaliceInnana]

God. Knowing Hagrid, if it is ugly and dangerous to children, he is going to get a whole friggin flock of them.

[Hpmons]

I doubt that Hagrid would buy a chimera, he is starting to go off his "dangerous" animals. ok, hes not, but I think he will meet up with different creature - perhaps he will be too busy with Grawp? CHimera's would befar too dangerous, even for Hagrid to deal with. Its just a little joke, I hope. Even if he does, he would never introduce it to classes!

But I imagine he will be too busy with Grawp/the Order to get another cute little pet.

(I enjoy going back to old threads...)

[ducky1515]

Posted by ChaliceInnana - July 2nd, 2003 at 6:03 am
God. Knowing Hagrid, if it is ugly and dangerous to children, he is going to get a whole friggin flock of them.


Beside which, Harry has a talent of befriending and/or mastering unusual and dangerous magical beasts. Each book has him facing a huge and scary beast, only to either to get past them in his quest or use them to save a friend ( Fluffy/PS/SS, Aragog and The Basilisk/COS, Buckbeak/POA, The Hornback Dragon/GOF, Grawp and theThestrals/OOTP).

Why not have Harry first face a Chimaera and then use it in defeating either Lord Thingy or his minions?

[hesdead-dealwithit]

Why not have Harry first face a Chimaera and then use it in defeating either Lord Thingy or his minions?

Because it's impossible to control them. I think FB said that only one person has ever killed one (and it's someone from Greek mythology, although FB didn't say that). If Harry tried to use it against the DEs, it would go for Harry first because he would be closer. I can't see us actually seeing a Chimaera, although it may come up again in conversation.

[paperflowergirl]

If dragons cannot be tamed, I highly doubt that chimearas can. I mean, honestly, if only one has ever been killed, that means that it is quite possibly worse than dragons. However, I think Hagrid would find it a fascinating challenge. Hopefully he will not have the opportunity nor the inclination to go out of his way to get one. But anything is possible - didn't Mundungus get some class A nontradable substance for the twins and their skiving snack boxes? *Shudder*
Although it would be really cool, I dont see how Harry or anyone else could control this kind of a wild creature to defeat Voldemort. I am curious, however, as to what really makes it that dangerous. I would say that it is not composed of the most dangerous parts of the animals it merges. The head of the dragon is more dangerous than its tail, and the claws of the lion are better weapons (or at least as good as) than its head. And no part of the goat is dangerous at all, except perhaps its teeth and horns if you dont watch out. Then there is the issue of size and making it all fit...

I know there is a reference in Fantastic Beasts, but where are the other ones?

[Katy Kedevra]

If dragons cannot be tamed, I highly doubt that chimearas can. I mean, honestly, if only one has ever been killed, that means that it is quite possibly worse than dragons. However, I think Hagrid would find it a fascinating challenge. Hopefully he will not have the opportunity nor the inclination to go out of his way to get one. But anything is possible - didn't Mundungus get some class A nontradable substance for the twins and their skiving snack boxes? *Shudder*
I think it was a Class C non-tradeable goods.

Anyway, I doubt Hagrid will get one, but has anyone else noticed that the animals used could be symbols of people? First, the lion. It could mean either Gryffindor or Dumbledore (he was in Gryffindor himself), or Harry or any other Gryffindor. (I like it being the idea of Dumbledore) Then, the goat. It could symbolize Aberforth, Dumbledore's brother. (He was fined or something like that for doing an illegal charm on a goat) Lastly, the dragon could be Hagrid, as that's what he wants most as a pet, or Charlie, because he works with dragons. (Keep the idea of Hagrid for now) So maybe the Chamaera is a symbol that means (in this case) that Dumbledore, Aberforth and Hagrid are a very powerful force together, practically unbeatable, except by one -- Voldemort? You take them appart and they don't seem as tough (well maybe Dumbledore, but aren't lions fierce as well?). Just a thought... :rolleyes:

Or they could be as unimportant as the toothpick the Dursleys gave Harry. Maybe it was just mentioned in the 'Beast book' because it was mentioned in OotP and they exist in the wizarding world. ;)

And one last thing, where was it in OotP? I must have not noticed it at all.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

I am curious, however, as to what really makes it that dangerous. I would say that it is not composed of the most dangerous parts of the animals it merges. The head of the dragon is more dangerous than its tail, and the claws of the lion are better weapons (or at least as good as) than its head. And no part of the goat is dangerous at all, except perhaps its teeth and horns if you dont watch out. Then there is the issue of size and making it all fit...

No, it doesn't seem very dangerous, does it. But JKR did not create the chimaera - it was part of Greek mythology. And the greeks said it was very dangerous, so JKR kind of has to go with that. Let's just say it is impossible to fight by magic, so wizards against it are just like normal humans against it. Other magical beasts can be fought, but if the chimaera can't be fought, then it would be very formidable, despite not seeming too bad. But that's just guesswork.

[paperflowergirl]

hesdead - I guess that makes sense. If we ever see one, I think JKR will elaborate for us what makes it so dangerous, just like she has with the other creatures.
katy kedavra - I think I am getting my classifications mixed up. I am talking about that last night at Grimauld place when the twins buy Venomous Tentacula seeds from Mundungus. (OofP Br. version pg 156 - The woes of mrs Weasley) You're right, they are class C non-tradeable substance. Aren't chimeara eggs the same? If so, that means that it would at least not be impossible to get hold of one.

[Potter1313]

Blast-Ended Skrewts. Obviously illegally bred creatures. I think he could create some more of these creatues quite easily. Not Blast-Ended Skrewts, of course, those were completely useless. I mean some other variation of magical hybrid. He's obviously not afraid to cross-breed animals with respect to the law because a) he knew that cross-breeding without the Ministry's permission was illegal but he went ahead and did it anyway and b) even after Rita Skeeter's article telling everyone that he illegally bred these creatures, he still continued to use them in his lessons. I think it'll be interesting to see what kind of things he can come up with in future books. What do you guys think?

[Cat]

I suspect that he doesn't have fire-crabs and manticores as breeding fodder and so probably didn't actually come up with the Skrewts himself. He might have bought them.

I think his brother might occupy most of his time now. Maybe we'll see less fantastic beasts? I flamin' well hope not.

[dobby_rocks]

sure Hagrid with have his hands tied a lot with Grawp, but he is still the teacher so he will provide something, who knows what it will be i can only imagine, id like him to show like a Grffyindor

[Cat]

Are giants considered beasts or beings? If they are classified beasts, then Hagrid might be able to make a class study of Grawp one day! :D

[*Maven*]

Yeah I bet we will see Grawp at one point in the plot somewhere. Like a battle at Hogwarts.. muhahaha... Also I would love to see some of those animals in Magical Creatures and where to find them.

[The_Ninja]

I have a feeling that Hagrids next step will be to teach the students the way of the Ninja. It all fits, Ninja are mammals, and they are more powerfully magical than ANYTHING EVER, they are much cooler than ANYTHING EVER, and if the crew are taught the way of the Ninja, their quest against Voldemort would be greatly aided. Ninja are so magical that the word Ninja is BOTH SINGULAR AND PLURAL, not even unicorn is both singular AND plural.

Thats it, I've convinced myself, the next book will contain Ninja. I nominate myself for the role of the Ninja when movie number 6 is in production.

[Flobberworm]

Are giants considered beasts or beings? If they are classified beasts, then Hagrid might be able to make a class study of Grawp one day! :D
I always assumed they were beasts because of how they are treated by most wizards, but I could be wrong. A class study of Grawp... :scared: . Could definitely see Hagrid doing that though!

[Prdmudblood]

Maybe Luna will find a Crumple Horned Snorkack and let Hagrid have it?

[Wab]

The crumple back snorky-things Luna's always on about :)

[The_Ninja]

Yeah, but chances are Hermione was right about crumpled horn snorkacks not existing. Hermiones right about pretty much everything. Also crumpled horn snorkacks were first mentioned inchapter 13, and it has been seen in past books that red herrings are usually introduced in chapter 13. Also take note that Hermione never said ANYHTING about Ninja not being real, Ninja were never mentioned in chapter 13 of ANY of the books, also Ninja are WAY AWESOME and should be in in such an awesome series. If Ninja are ever put in any Harry Potter book I will get so pumped that Ill probably just kick myself in the face or something, and that would be SO AWESOME.

[*Maven*]

Control those hormones ninja you seem a little excited. Anyways there is always the chance of seeing Aragog or Norbert.

[The_Ninja]

Nah, im over like, 700 years old man, the hormones are well and truely past. NINJA JUST PUMP ME UP TIL I CANT TYPE ANYMOREOJURTJWOGNOEGJOEGN... so in response to your unasked but obvious question, Ninja are awesome just cause thats the way things are.

[Potter1313]

oh yeah... i totally forgot about Grawpy! Hehehe. I think it would be awesome if Hagrid let the class study Grawp. Mind you, he'd have to be super careful though. Although, I don't think I'd complain too much if Grawp accidentally squashed Malfoy.... Come to think of it, I don't think much of anyone else will complain either!

[Mrs. Biggerstaff]

oh yeah his definatly gonna hvae his hands tied up with Grawp (one of my fav mos in book 5 si wen grawp goes "Hermy where Haggar?"lol)
but then again knowing Hagrid there are so many other things that he could find im tryna thin of an animal from FBAWTFT! probably one with a XXXXX rating or sumink!

[Katy Kedevra]

I don't think we'll be seeing Grawp in class too soon.
1) Hagrid wants to treat Grawp like his brother, not a lab rat for studying
2) Nobody knows other than the centaurs, Harry, Hermy, Ron and most probably Dumbledore
3) It would be too dangerous, even for Hagrid. At least the Hippogrifs were trained and it was Malfoy who needed the discipline and the Skrewts only gave minor burns... Grawp, untrained, could kill
4) Grawp's the Order's secret weapon, why would we want to loose that? ^-^

[Kaonashi]

He'll find a heliopath for Luna, watch!

Hagrid: Look, her's our secret weapon against the DE!

Luna: smiling happily* See everyone! I knew they existed!

Hermoine: *speechless*

Heliopath: *breathes fire at Pansy*

Draco and everyone else: RUN!!!!!

[Pucko]

if Hagrid gets a chimaera, he'll be kickin the bucket a few seconds later. that's about all that could happen, seriously. i doubt Hagrid would be blind enough not to realize there is like no way he can tame a chimaera...plus the whole Hargid actuallky taming something has already been done, so i'm doubtign JK would let him tame a couple of chimaeras when he's got his buddy grawp all smart

[GryffindorSeeker]

Well, what ever Hagrid gets, I'm afraid will kill him withing thirty minutes, but as he's lived through his little brother (and we all know that can be difficult to do), I hope he'll manage. If he doesn't live, then Harry has one more loss and we are sitting wondering where we'll get out strange creatures from. Maybe Charlie.

[Algernon]

i agree with the ninja, you never know, maybe Hogwarts will get an oriental surprise.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

You know, he could just dig out some more creatures out of the forest. I get the feeling that there are more dangerous things in the forest than we have seen, as it doesn't seem too bad right now (until the centaurs got angry, at least). There has to be more to make the forest off-limits even before the centaurs were hostile.

[Potter1313]

There has to be more to make the forest off-limits even before the centaurs were hostile.
good point. it'll be interesting to find out more... if we do, that is.

[Jill]

Have we not already scene a chimera. Isn't a gryffin a type of chimera. A lions body and a birds head and thats what harry road in PoA wasn't it. So they already have them in the school I think. Correct me if I am wrong but I am sure that a gryffin is a type of chimera.

[Windstar]

Oh, I hope Hagrid doesn't get his hands on a chimara! Malfoy would definitely have a case toward getting him fired then! Especially after the Buckbeak incident!
Gwarp should be well enteretained in the forest with Fluffy, the three headed dog, while Hagrid is out working at the school or otherwise occupied.
As to what he comes up with next? I couldn't even imagine it. Could anyone have imagined blast ended skrewts?
I just hope that Hagrid uses his head before taking in any new, exotic creatures.
I, also, haven't read the Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them either, to even be able to contemplate what will be coming next.

[Potter1313]

Have we not already scene a chimera. Isn't a gryffin a type of chimera. A lions body and a birds head and thats what harry road in PoA wasn't it. So they already have them in the school I think. Correct me if I am wrong but I am sure that a gryffin is a type of chimera.
um... no. A griffin is a griffin. A chimaera is a chimaera. Both of them are mythical beasts that originate from greek mythology. If you really believed this then you'd have to say that a sphinx is a type of chimaera since it consists of the body of a lion and the head of a human (usually a woman). So, no. The Chimaera is a completely different animal than a Griffin. And by the way, we haven't seen a griffin either. We've seen hippogriffs. Also different animals... as are hippocampuses (see Magical Beasts and Where to Find Them).

[Puffskein]

I always assumed they were beasts because of how they are treated by most wizards, but I could be wrong.

They're not in Fantastic Beasts, so I presume they are classified as beings. Hagrid will still have his hands full with Grawp in the next book but he might be able to dig something vicious out of the forest.

[Windstar]

Did you read where Grawp's name could really be "Grow Up"?
Will the giants ever decide who's side to be on?
I don't think they will feel any loyalty toward Hagrid just because Hagrid is half giant. I think it has more to do with who gives them more presents.
I'm sure that while Hagrid may have his hands full in the next book with Grawp, he will still be the teacher and have some intriguing creatures to show the class.

[Lady deMimsy]

Woo hoo, my first post! Hope I can figure out how this works...

I'm hoping he will get a Crumple-Horned Snorkack (or a herd of them), because it's such an intriguing name and I want Hermione to be wrong about something for once. What do you suppose they're like? I imagine them as large and white, with a hump on their back, and they have one horn in front like a rhinoceros, only it's pleated like an accordion. Oh, and I'm sure they snort a lot.

Lady de Mimsy-Porpington

[lemondrop]

I had noticed last year that one of JK's favorite children's author was E. Nesbit so I bought The Book of Beasts for my daughter last Xmas. Some of the "Beasts" that are in the story are a Dragon, a Manticora, and a Hippogriff.

The Dragon is a typical dragon.

The Manticora looks like a lion with a shaggy human head. He is too afraid to fight the dragon and likes to eat the town's cats. JK changed the spelling to Manticore and added the scorpion tail.

The Hippogriff resembles more of a white flying horse. He helps recapture the dragon.

I seems like Hagrid is bound to come up with a class XXXX or XXXXX at some point.

[Potter1313]

The Manticora looks like a lion with a shaggy human head. He is too afraid to fight the dragon and likes to eat the town's cats. JK changed the spelling to Manticore and added the scorpion tail.
Actually, the book YOU had changed the spelling and the appearance. The Manticore goes all the way back to Greek Mythology and the description JK has in her Fantastic Beasts is exactly what it says in Greek Mythology. Manticores originally had the scorpion tail. Besides, Manticores prefer human prey to animals... don't know why though. Perhaps the Greeks just made it that way to make them more fearsome.

[deadlocked]

I would love to see a chimera appear in book VI.

[Windstar]

I will just love to see the next book!

[MadMagic]

Hopefully Hagrid will be too busy with the Order to think about getting his hands on a Chimera. I'm sure Hagrid could handle it, but I would rather him not have one. I just got 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' and they look pretty dangerous. Hopefully the writing by the entry of the Chimera is just a joke and does not turn out to be real.

[SnorkackCatcher]

Hopefully Hagrid will be too busy with the Order to think about getting his hands on a Chimera. I'm sure Hagrid could handle it, but I would rather him not have one. I just got 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' and they look pretty dangerous. Hopefully the writing by the entry of the Chimera is just a joke and does not turn out to be real.

I doubt Hagrid will actually get a Chimera - it was probably just a throwaway line. As described in FB&WTFT, they're the sort of things that you'd need to keep in a very, very strong cage. JKR said in an interview that dragons are completely untameable, whatever Hagrid thinks, and Chimeras sound even worse. Mind you, Hagrid is certifiably nuts when in comes to monsters in general, so he might still have a try!

[Potter1313]

Yeah, I agree. I think the little scribbles on the side of the book were just to further endear the book to the reader. I don't think they really mean anything. I don't know about any of you, but when I was reading Fantastic Beasts, I was definitely drawn to the Nundu entry. "Arguably the most dangerous beast..." It's also a cat. And we all know that JK has something going with cats in the HP series.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

Wouldn't it be interesting if Hagrid brought in a Crumple-Horned Snorkack?

(Or at least something that only Luna believes in. A heliopath, maybe - that sounds pretty "interesting" = ahem, dangerous)

[ThruTheVeil]

We've all discussed and had plenty of theories dealing with Kneazles since J. K. R. told us that Crookshanks is half-Kneazle, but we really haven't seen any full-blooded Kneazles. I would like to see something about them in the upcoming books, and I think it is a possibility that they could be in The Forbiden Forest somewhere. Also, we know that the Weasleys have a ghoul in their attic, and while they aren't dangerous beasts and become family pets sometimes according to FB&WTFT, we haven't learned much about them either. I don't know how important these animals could be, but I think we might learn some more about them.