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Godfather Sirius Black
November 9th, 2002, 7:25 pm
OK. This is the thread where we can discuss the film once we've seen it. I saw it today, just got back. And it's pretty good. Its about the same as the first.

The Weasleys house was pretty cool. I hope we get to see more than 2 minutes of it later on in films. The Flourish and Botts scene is very good one (although I saw some of it before online).

The Basilisk is VERY big, and the film goes away from the story. Bascially, Fawkes comes and blinds the Basilisk, then Harry runs through the Chamber (best described as a "clean" sewer) and tricks the basilisk, then the sword appears and he grabs it annd climb the statue which it came from and shoves it throughtop of mouth. Then Harry starts killing the book and has a er.. "emotional" chat with Ginny.Before Fawkes saves him. Note: Sign One of a Relationship Then at dinner. Hermione comes and hugs Harry but not Ron, and theres a kinda awkard sort of situation, and she shakes Rons hand.

Then there's this werid bit, where Hagrid comes back and he makes a speech bout if it weren't for Harry he would still be stuck "there", Then they hug, and Dumbledore starts clapping, then EVERYONE claps, (excluding Crabbe, Goyle and Malfoy) and start moving towards Hagrid, whne the camera zooms out and you see Hogwarts music. And the end music comes on...

It is REALLY good. If only I had broadband.

Emma
November 9th, 2002, 7:34 pm
I've just read a Movie Review form another site that I frequent.

They claim over all some sceens are deleated, Dobby is funnier than what should be expected. And that there is something at the very end of the movie that we all should stay and watch for.

I'm suspecting something about Richard Harris.

JenBluffheid
November 9th, 2002, 7:37 pm
Waaaaagh! I couldn't help reading it! You shouldn't have the word "SPOILERS" on your title -- it just attracts me! Well, it wasn't as much info. as I was expecting, so thanks!

Godfather Sirius Black
November 9th, 2002, 7:51 pm
Ok. The only thing that could be "expected" could be Lucius attempt to harm Harry. It sounded a little like he was just about to shout av.....(avada kevara). But then Dobby shot him back like 30 ft. Erm. What else happens at the end.


Oh yeh Hargrid goes, "I would've been out earlier but my papers got lost and muddled, carried by some bluddy owl calkled Errol" ..
Can't think of much else "suprising" which isn't in the book.

Springy
November 9th, 2002, 8:07 pm
WOW, thanks GSB, that was cool.

Anyway, why do you need broadband and also, how on earth was you able to see the movie today??? Did you get a private screening or something???

JenBluffheid
November 9th, 2002, 8:20 pm
It's special preview screening thingymajigies. It was advertised on TV.

Springy
November 9th, 2002, 10:00 pm
Oh yeah, I remember seeing that!!! Thanks Jen!!! I wished I was there watching it today though. *Springy bows his head low and begins to make crying noises*

Kneazle
November 9th, 2002, 10:40 pm
I'm going to stick this thread to the top. . . it can be our CoS review thread.

Hettie Hoffleboffer
November 10th, 2002, 2:08 am
Oh man! I have to wait six more days....:'(

I can't wait to see the tense moment between Ron and Hermione! It sounds hillarious! :love:

And lets here more about the "emotional" chat with Ginny. You're killin' me here!

Of course, that could be a bad idea. Being the H/G shipper that I am, I will probably read too much into it anyways.

Godfather Sirius Black
November 10th, 2002, 9:31 am
IT really is good. I saw it on preview. Oh and I need broadband, as I may be tempted to download it hehe. Cool, I've got an "important" thread.



The CHat with Ginny
She kinda looked and thanked him and they kinda looked eye to eye if as those they were about to hug or something, and Harry goes "Go and find Ron" And she goes "Oh harry" or something like, then Fawkes comes along and saves the day. Its not as much what they SAY but how they act.

rela00
November 10th, 2002, 11:59 am
I went to see CoS at 9 o'clock last night and I have to say WOWWWWWWWWWWWW. It was absolutly fantastic! The whole thing blew me away. It's a lot scarier than the first one. I was sat hiding behind my hands and I'm a 22 year old who loves scary films! The spiders are terrifying and I like spiders! My sister actually screamed in the middle of the cinema when one perticuarly scary spider apeared! (I'm trying not to give to much away here!). I have to say I was unsure of Daniel Radcliffe in the first one. I thought he was good but I felt Rupert and Emma outshone him. In this one however............! He is (as Ron would put it) "bloody brilliant!" He really manages to capture the dark side of Harry and pulls it off beautifully (just a pity he's 9 years to young!!! hehe). Emma and Rupert were, again, fantastic. All the new characters are brilliantly portrade. Jason Issacs does a great job of actually making you feel almost sorry for Draco (to have such a bullying father)! Myrtle is great. Tom Riddle is fantastic (he does as good a job (if not better) as Ian Hart's double bluff last year). I've come away absolutly dying to see it again. I can not rave about this enough. Go see it. LOTS of times! As for all the talk about the Harry and Hermione hug..... I think the lack of a hug between her and Ron is A LOT more telling. Then again that may just be me!
Em x

JenBluffheid
November 10th, 2002, 1:13 pm
Blergh! I think I'll just cover my eyes at that point, thank you very much ... :smile:

Godfather Sirius Black
November 10th, 2002, 6:20 pm
Theres one bit which makes you jump.
In the shop harry lands in (after Floo Powder incident) he starts touching this hand then BANG it snaps shut. Everyone is the cinema jumped at that point.

Springy
November 10th, 2002, 8:27 pm
I have to see the movie!!! Arr, only 5 more days!!!

Laura Patil
November 10th, 2002, 10:12 pm
I want to go see it on Saturday, but I know the lines will be unbearably long. I might have to wait a few weeks before I see it.

digisam
November 10th, 2002, 11:39 pm
Very good, i wont spoil it. it has been a while since i read the book, but i think that helped. With the first film i was picking at it all the time and not enjoying it.

its really good you wont be dissapointed.

i saw it on Saturday at 11pm and we were 2 of 8 people there.

The same thing happend last year, we saw it on the previews and it was empty.

rose
November 11th, 2002, 4:47 am
bleh. i doesnt come out here till friday

go_anna40
November 11th, 2002, 6:07 am
i have to wait until another like 19 days...:'(

it sounds really good...i have to see it more than once.

i loved Jason Isaccs in the Florish a Blotts scene (saw it on the net)...i'm so excited...you lucky ducks

pasalita
November 11th, 2002, 6:21 am
Did you hear: Ebert and Roeper gave CoS two thumbs up! And, they showed new scenes (or, at least, ones I'd never seen before tonight!)

I can't wait until Friday! :tu: :tu:

lanifiel
November 11th, 2002, 6:56 am
Argh! I still have to wait another week and a half! Feel pity for me!

Morgoth
November 11th, 2002, 7:52 am
**SPOILER ALERT**

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I've seen the movie twice now and it's amazing. I think Jason Isaacs is brilliant as Lucius Malfoy. The long hair is kinda weird, but you get used to it. The spell he tries to do on Harry at the end definately started with "Avada..." :scared:

Dobby is very well rendered and it's quite amusing seeing him bash his head against Harry's drawers alot.

The Quidditch match is intense and much better than last years, with more focus on Harry & Draco's attempts to get the snitch than the actual match itself.

One of my favorite scenes is the Wizards Duel, when Harry & Draco face off. It's good to actually see some wand action in this film and it's really errie when Harry starts speaking parsletongue. Even Snape looks shocked!!

The Spiders.. Aragog(sp?) wow. That part of the film was scary for me as I hate large spiders and those were large. Ron's reaction is pretty funny... "Can we panic now?"

The Basilisk. Woah! That was very good indeed.

The slug spewing Ron was funny and totally gross. Great :D


**END SPOILER**

Definately better than film 1.

Godfather Sirius Black
November 11th, 2002, 3:35 pm
Twice ..grrrrrr. SOmeone needs to seeit again.

Kneazle
November 11th, 2002, 6:17 pm
Originally posted by Morgoth
I've seen the movie twice now and it's amazing. I think Jason Isaacs is brilliant as Lucius Malfoy. The long hair is kinda weird, but you get used to it. The spell he tries to do on Harry at the end definately started with "Avada..." :scared:
Truly? Awesome.

Moe
November 12th, 2002, 1:29 am
I've gota wait another 16 days...GRRR!!

I have been told that they introduced Peeve's in the film..is this true or was peeve's scraped again?.

Also some scenes where done incorrectly or deleted, like the 'Deathday' Party (i really would have liked to have seen this on film) what other scenes were deleted?

Cheers;
Moe

PS BLAH!! 16 days is TOO Long......Hurry Up!!!

go_anna40
November 12th, 2002, 6:45 am
i'm still waiting, but it definately sounds good!! can't wait!

Morgoth
November 12th, 2002, 8:23 am
Originally posted by Moe
I have been told that they introduced Peeve's in the film..is this true or was peeve's scraped again?.

I didn't see Peeves in this film. A lot of the scenes are quite shortened from the book. I think what we're going to find with the movies is the thicker the books, the shorter the scenes, which may let future movies down a bit. For example, The Burrow. Not much attention was paid to that. Harry arrived and left quite quickly.

The Howler scene in the Great Hall is very funny. Julie Walters is very good at playing Mrs Weasley. She has such a great voice and presence.

The Phoenix is very pretty. Nice bold colors and it's pearched right next to Dumbledore's desk. His office is pretty interesting - The second time I went to see the film, I tried looking to see if they had stuck anything resembling a Pensieve in there, but I didn't see it.

It's going to be weird having a new Dumbledore for PoA. There's a kind of added sentiment when watching Richard Harris on the screen.

I didn't appreciate Moaning Myrtle the first time because she has a really horrid voice, but the second time I was ok with her.

Tom Felton was pretty good as Draco again. He definately looked older than his character which may well mean a change of actor for film 3 or 4. But because he commands quite a unique presence with his white hair etc, he'll be difficult to replace.

One very good scene is the diary scene where Harry is taken back 50 years to see Tom Riddle framing Hagrid. It's done in black and white, but Harry is in color, so the period is defined better. That was a good scene. You saw a younger looking Dumbledore and you can tell that Dumbledore can see right through Riddle and I think he can see right through Harry as well, when he asks Harry in his office earlier on in the film: "Is their anything you wish to tell me?"

Also, when Hagrid is talking to Ddore, Malfoy Snr & Fudge in his hut, you can tell Dumbledore knows Harry & Ron are under the invisibility cloak. He can see them probably as clearly as Fudge, Hagrid & Malfoy Snr.

Originally posted by Kneazle
Truly? Awesome.

I'm 99% sure that's what he starts to say. Dobby saves the day though :)

MW
November 12th, 2002, 7:15 pm
Originally posted by Emma
And that there is something at the very end of the movie that we all should stay and watch for.
Anyone know what this is? I didn't stay... :( Absolutely brilliant film though :clappy:

Godfather Sirius Black
November 12th, 2002, 8:09 pm
In response to MW, the thing Lucius beginning to Say "avada Keadavara" (you here him say ava....


NOPE No DSeathday party either.

go_anna40
November 13th, 2002, 6:03 am
no deathsday!!! :(

oh well, hey can you guys (whose seen it) also tell me what other scenes from the books were cut out? i would like to know what to expect.

Godfather Sirius Black
November 13th, 2002, 8:36 pm
ooh/ Well The Burrow scene was cut short ALOT. What else. Not really sure. If I read the book again I will know. But not too sure about others. Quite alot of them were all there.

Godfather Sirius Black
November 13th, 2002, 8:36 pm
ooh/ Well The Burrow scene was cut short ALOT. What else. Not really sure. If I read the book again I will know. But not too sure about others. Quite alot of them were all there.

Oh the Knockturn Alley shop 9cant remember name) scene is very short and ot like the book. And The Flourish and Botts scene is extended!

harryton
November 13th, 2002, 9:05 pm
i cant wait for the release of HP friday.

JephReeta
November 13th, 2002, 10:20 pm
Man, i can't wait. I'm planning a whole excursion for friday though. Then, I'm going again on saturday...and maybe monday...tuesday's looking good as well!

sinsux
November 14th, 2002, 1:21 am
im going friday night, got it all plannedd out, i cant wait, i've heard nothing but good things about it. i read that the Bourgin and Burks scene is going to be extended on the DVD and that there will also be 2 versions of that scene. (Columbus said it himself).

go_anna40
November 14th, 2002, 9:51 am
cool!

i really can't wait to see the Florish and Blotts scene in full and on the big screen, it's probably one of my scenes that i can't wait to see.

well, there's bout 17 days until it comes out in AUS, it's on a thrusday, so i'll probably go to it on the following Sunday, and maybe book some tickets.

crisco
November 14th, 2002, 4:16 pm
me and my friend are going to see it tomrrow. Im so exicted. I hope we get tickets to see it. if we didnt I would be so upset. Im like thinking about seeing it constantly i cant even do all my work becasue tomrrow ima see it :)

Pizza In A Cup
November 14th, 2002, 10:57 pm
LIKE OMG OMG OMG ONLEY LKEI 1 MOORRR DAI LEFT!@1!!12!!!!1111

Brad Redfield
November 15th, 2002, 3:46 am
Once I get back from the 7:30 PM show, I'll give ya guys a detailed review. :cool:

Well, until then, don't let the Cornish Pixies out.:elaugh:

go_anna40
November 15th, 2002, 3:55 am
can't wait, i've gotta wait still 16 days or so.

give me a full detail of it!! like what wasn't there and the full Forich and Blotts scene...i love it already!

FRuiT LuPiN
November 15th, 2002, 4:25 am
ok im gonna get my spoilers in before everyone sees it later ;)

For some weird reason the movie got release here in the Philippines on Wednesday, two days before most of you guys can see it. Well techincally, Wed afternoon here is Tues night for you guys...anyway, it was really good, some notes good and bad:

1) I really liked the dueling club scene, Daniel Radcliffe and Alan Rickman acted the scene particularly well...

2) Besides Ron, we didnt get to see enough of the Weasleys, even Ginney

3) Quidditch was just...wow. It was simply amazing.

4) The acting of the tri improved, especially Emma Watson

5) Moaning Myrtle was extremely annoying. Kudos to Shirley Henderson

6) Jason Issacs is the man...enough said.

7) Flitwick is in only scene :(

8) Harry speaking in Parseltounge freaked me out a little bit

9) Tom Felton was relly good as well...especially in the dueling club, quidittch, and polyjuice potion scenes

10) Christian Coulson was awsome as the heir of Slytherin...the part where he rights his name in the air with Harry's wand and then transforms it into "I AM LORD VOLDEMORT" that was cooooool. One of the lines from the movie that really stuck with was when Riddle says "Albus Dumbledore was been driven away by the memory of me!!", or something like that...the way he said just blew me away...

thats all i can think of for now...hope you guys enjoy watching it!!!

go_anna40
November 15th, 2002, 4:50 am
thanx for that!

moaning myrtle doesn't look like anything what i imagined. Lucius Malfoy, would definately be my fav charater so far. and hardly the Weasly's? that's too bad. do you see the Knight Bus?

Moe
November 15th, 2002, 5:00 am
Isn't the night bus in PoA? I don't remember the night bus in CoS..

Cheers;
Moe

go_anna40
November 15th, 2002, 10:08 am
opps. my fault, i haven't read em in a long time. that's right. Ron comes and get Harry out, that's right.

soz, my mistake.

so everyne who's seen it. what would you rate it out of ten?

Morgoth
November 15th, 2002, 11:40 am
I would give it 8 out of 10. A couple of minor points you do pick up on, but it really does feel like a better movie than the first.

majo
November 15th, 2002, 3:19 pm
I want to see it now!!
I'm not going until next Tuesday, and I'm really trying to avoid spoilers (at least, I was until I saw this thread.)
I'm so excited! :clappy:

Calan
November 15th, 2002, 3:30 pm
Yeah, I think 8 out of 10 is fair. There was noticably more missing that in the first movie (longer book makes it inevitable I guess) and some of the nice touches from the book failed to make it into the movie which disappointed me, but pretty good on the whole. I did think there were a number of changes from the book, some good, some not so good. I need to go back and read the book and watch it again to come to a final opinion I think.

But a few thoughts for now...

The acting was very good on the whole. The characters pretty much fitted my imagination based on the books, especially Lucius and Lockhart (Kenneth Branagh was perfect!). Dobby wasn't as annoying as I had thought he might be. I was disappointed with Mr Weasley for some reason. Not sure exactly why, just didn't feel quite right to me.

The scenes at the burrow were very much shortened, rather disappointing for me. It would have been nice to see more of the Weasley family.

The first lesson with Lockhart - this look on the girls faces, the reactions of the Lockhart in the painting... :) Very good scene

Quidditch - very nice game. Much more focus on Malfoy and Harry that in tPS. I loved the 'fixing' of Harry's broken arm by Lockhart. The lack of bones actually looked fairly convincing.

Aragog and the spiders - Well, I'm glad I'm not afraid of spiders :) I did think this went on a little bit long tho. The chasing of the car was just a bit over the top I thought. I loved Ron's question, "Can we panic now?". In fact his whole reaction was well acted.

The Basilisk - Okay, I admit, it was not like in the book. But given that I really enjoyed it anyway. I did think Ginny and Harry's interplay may be a sign of things to come, but not much more to say about this whole fight sequence. I enjoyed it. However the aftermath was a disappointment to me. To cut from that straight to fawkes flying them back up, then to Ron and Harry only with DD was one of the changes I disliked the most. I think a few shots of Ron when Harry returned with Ginny, and again of her with parents would have added so much more to the film, especially when it comes to making me relate to the Weasleys as a close family. I just haven't really seen that as yet.

Returning the diary to Lucius with the sock *inside* made more sense to me than as it was described in the book (that was one of the things I had problems with from the book), [I did miss the exact wording on the curse tho - Well picked up people] and the feast at the end was a suitable end to the movie, especially Hermiones reaction to both Harry and Ron, completely different, and leaving you wondering what is to come there as well (at least until you read book 5 :))

Hmmm... more than I intended to write, but there you have it, at least until I watch it again.

JenBluffheid
November 15th, 2002, 7:16 pm
I've been counting the hours all day. About 19 hours left. Ooooh! ^_^ I'm excited!

FRED ASTAIRE
November 15th, 2002, 7:36 pm
Okay guys, I just saw (10:00 am) the movie!

What I am about to say is:--MY OWN OPINION! so don't kill me!

I did not like it as much as I thought I would have.


REASONS:

1) The movie moved too fast--It did not flow well.

2) There were too many missing pieces--it's has if they pause the movie and fast forward it, then start it at another segment!

3)It's not what I expected at all! The actors seem stiff! Kenneth was not in the movie that long for him to do anything :( or make an impression on me! Daniel (I am sorry to say) seem too stiff and so are Rupert and Emma!

To me, it was not scary or action packed (:( )! Both my grandmum and mum slept through it! I don't know, I just don't know, may be if I see it again I may change my mind, but so far; I was not happy! My favourite parts are with Dobby!!! I really liked him!

Please don't get me wrong, I am 110% Harry Potter fan! I fight with my mum for my books, when I am driving I take my cassettes with me every where to listen to them; over and over again.


I don't know, the show was a let-down for me OR it could be that the theater that I went to, mess up the picture! During the first part of the showing, the taping STOPPED and they did not rewind it!!! Next, the screen got split in TWO ( you see part of Dan's head on the bottom of the screen and his middle on top) and STILL they did not fix it!!! The whole thing got messed-up for me!!!


I will go see it again with my nieces and nephew when the come for a visit!


Oh, I guess it was too late for them to add anything about Richard's death at the end of the movie, maybe in the release of the DVD or VHS, they might do so!


Okay, go a head, tear into me for DARING to say any thing bad about the movie, when EVERY body is saying "how wonderful it was"! I LOVE the books better AND the first movie!! Maybe the next one will be better????

FRED ASTAIRE
November 15th, 2002, 7:44 pm
Originally posted by Emma
I've just read a Movie Review form another site that I frequent.

They claim over all some sceens are deleated, Dobby is funnier than what should be expected. And that there is something at the very end of the movie that we all should stay and watch for.

I'm suspecting something about Richard Harris.

Nope, it was of Lockheart in a window display! It was of him in a (moving) book with the heading saying "Who am I"?

Pastor Potter
November 15th, 2002, 7:44 pm
I'm going to see it today at 7:15 PM EST. I've got my sweater-vest, gold and red tie, and cloak all ready. I'll probably be the oldest dressed up person at my theater.

FRED ASTAIRE
November 15th, 2002, 8:03 pm
Originally posted by Pastor Potter
I'm going to see it today at 7:15 PM EST. I've got my sweater-vest, gold and red tie, and cloak all ready. I'll probably be the oldest dressed up person at my theater.


Nope! The theater I went to had older people AND kids dressing up as Harry Potter characters! I wish I was that brave enough to do it! I really liked their costumes!!!

Godfather Sirius Black
November 15th, 2002, 8:19 pm
You notice instantly, how their voices have deepened and I think Hermione has started to act better. In the first she was brilliant at it, but you notice a difference in this film, shes slighlt ymore "posh" but if you think about it, thats how it's meant to be.

Morgoth
November 15th, 2002, 8:57 pm
I wanted to dress up as well, but apparently I don't make a good Hermione :rolleyes:

JenBluffheid
November 15th, 2002, 9:00 pm
Haha! I can just imagine you with bushy hair. Amusing thought.

We were going to dress up, but ... uh ... no-one had the guts to and thought (and hoped) that I was joking. :sorry:

pasalita
November 15th, 2002, 10:30 pm
Originally posted by Emma
I've just read a Movie Review form another site that I frequent.

They claim over all some sceens are deleated, Dobby is funnier than what should be expected. And that there is something at the very end of the movie that we all should stay and watch for.

I'm suspecting something about Richard Harris.

Well, crud. Had I read this thread before I went to see it today, I would have stayed until the end of the credits, because I suspect it may have something to do with Richard Harris as well.

*sigh*

I guess I'll just have to wait until the second time I see it.
Or the third.
Or fourth.

Emma
November 16th, 2002, 12:10 am
Well, there was not a mention of Richard Harris. This I was very surprised in. It was very erie to see him on the screen. There were a few sceens that I was misty eyed in though.

Stay for the end of credits though. It's funny.

Yoshi
November 16th, 2002, 1:23 am
Saw it just then and..... amazingly i think the 1st LOTR was better. but it was an excellent movie. i liked the part when Harry drove the sword right up in the basilisk. Lotsa blood! ^_^

majo
November 16th, 2002, 1:25 am
There's been a change of plans. instead of of going on Tuesday, I'm going to the matinee tomorrow with my sister, who is possibly as excited as I am about this movie!
Less than 20 hours! :clappy: *does happy dance*

Yoshi
November 16th, 2002, 1:31 am
Lol, i bet you'll like it majo. theres a few scary scenes like when the basilisk comes up through the floor. I almost jumped

Xalan
November 16th, 2002, 1:33 am
Just saw it and...wow, great stuff, you can tell big time which scenes they shot first; ginny, ron and hermione look younger in certain scenes. overall it was great but I think I may have liked the 1st one more....so far, I just need to see this one like 12 more times or so before I decide.

Ferrik
November 16th, 2002, 1:36 am
Just got back from it. On the whole, I liked it better than the first one. The kids' acting was definitely better, and Lockhart was a hoot. That little epilogue of his was worth waiting through the credits.
I agree with Calan on the Mr Weasley thing. He never really clicked with me. I also wanted to see more of the Burrow and definitely more of Fred and George. It also would have been nice to see Gryffindor's reaction to Harry and Ron flying the car to school. The way they did it, Colin was just sort of dropped in there.
The action stuff was great. The fight with the basilisk rocked!
Did anyone notice the professor next to Snape at the end feast? Maybe Trelawny?
Stupid trick warning: never hold a sword like Harry did in Dd's office. It's a good way to lose a few fingers. Granted the thing was a glorified dressing sword, but it's still sharp...

Kneazle
November 16th, 2002, 1:49 am
Wow. It was much better than the Philosopher's Stone. The acting of the three leads has definitely improved. They seemed relaxed and were more self-assured. Daniel was just brilliant this time 'round. As before, the adult cast was very good. They made Hogwarts very homelike in this one. Some of the sets they introduced were fantastic. Dumbledore's Office and the Slytherin Common Room were so cool. The cinematography, etc., was more imaginative in this one. The special effects are more realistic. I was especially pleased with Dobby. I was afraid that he would be quite the irritating CGI character (I really, really dislike the character), but they limited his time and I actually thought he looked quite real. Quidditch was better integrated into the background.

Kenneth Branagh was almost too good as Lockhart. He steals every scene. He's so confident and delightfully pompous.. Jason Isaacs was also great as Mr Malfoy. I was a bit sceptical about the hair at first, but now I think it works. I love the cane/wand. I feel bad for Draco.

About Draco: There's that scene in Flourish and Blotts when they focus on him on the upper level, and later on in the scene he was seen ripping a page out of a book and folding it into his cloak. In the Polyjuice Potion part, when they're in the Slytherin Common Room, they pay a bit of attention to the little package on the table. Neither of these things were ever mentioned in the book, and I was wondering whether they could be of any significance. . . I know they probably won't be, I was just searching for absolutely anything that may be considered a "clue". ;)

Bonnie Wright was very good, as was Shirley Henderson. And Tom Riddle. He was creepy. I love the final scenes, and the "diary" scene (that greyscale filming was well-used). Christian Coulson was spot-on with his portrayal, though he doesn't look as I imagine Tom. He certainly changed my opinion of Riddle. I still like him for being an interesting character, but he's so horrible in the movie. The Chamber of Secrets itself was rather thrilling. The Basilisk was fantastic. The whole scene was is very eerie.

They did a good job with Fawkes, and Aragog was really spooky. I could have done without that. It certainly didn't help my edginess around spiders. Same with the slug scene.

They didn't "mangle" Ron as much as I would have expected. They actually altered my current view of him. He's not half so bad as I think-- at least not in CoS. Poor thing. . . with Ginny and all that. Rupert Grint was so good. He didn't exactly come across as brave (like he is), and he was a tad comedic, but he was still Ron. The Burrow was fantastic. So homey and eccentric. It fits my personal image of the house perfectly. It's a pity those scenes were cut short.

It was sad seeing Richard Harris in his last role. I'm so glad that Dumbledore is . . . himself. . .again. Still wise and serious, but with his lovability.


I must admit to being a bit confused with the ending. Cheering for Hagrid? Erm. . . it was nice, but I thought it a rather odd way to end a movie. Especially since it was Harry who had just saved the day. :D

Hettie Hoffleboffer
November 16th, 2002, 1:58 am
I just saw it this afternoon. Good times.:clappy:

Good stuff:
*Dobby was excellent. The only part where I really noticed that he was CG was when he came out of Harry's closet. Blows Jar Jar out of the water. In fact, all of the creatures in this movie are amazing. Especally the spiders. Wonderful!
*Quidditch was super cool too. The whole trench part was well played out.
*The tense moment between Ron and Hermione: Priceless.
*I know some of you have issues with Hermione knowing what being a "Mudblood" meant, and that the line should have been given to Ron, who is supposed to know so much about the wizarding world. But I felt that they had changed it to make the scene much more poignant, and it was. You could really see how hurt she was by it. I nearly cried.


Bummers:
*Fred Astaire was right it saying it didn't flow well. Some scenes were edited without transition. That kinda bothered me.
*The lack of emphasis on Ginny's crush with Harry. I can understand why they did it, but I felt that it was still an important part of the book. It was never even mentioned in the chamber, only implied.
*And of course, I would have loved to seen more of the Burrow. The clock was pretty keen though.

All in all, I really loved the movie. It was an excellent sequel.
Now, off to the theatres with ya!

Hettie Hoffleboffer
November 16th, 2002, 2:06 am
Originally posted by Kneazle
About Draco: There's that scene in Flourish and Blotts when they focus on him on the upper level, and later on in the scene he was seen ripping a page out of a book and folding it into his cloak. In the Polyjuice Potion part, when they're in the Slytherin Common Room, they pay a bit of attention to the little package on the table. Neither of these things were ever mentioned in the book, and I was wondering whether they could be of any significance. . . I know they probably won't be, I was just searching for absolutely anything that may be considered a "clue". ;)

I wondered about that myself. Especally since there was nothing mentioned in the book. It seemed very obviously "put in".

The real key to the series: Draco is a cleptomaniac.:??:

Kneazle
November 16th, 2002, 2:14 am
Originally posted by Hettie Hoffleboffer
The real key to the series: Draco is a cleptomaniac.:??:
lol. Could be. ;)

Also, that Hand in Mr. Borgin's shop. The Hand of Glory, was it? After reading some stuff about it (mostly here on CoS), I think it could easily be of more importance.

Hettie Hoffleboffer
November 16th, 2002, 2:27 am
*Hettie shows her lack of knowledge in the wizarding world again* :o

Could you please give me a refresher on what the Hand of Glory is? It sounds familar, but I have seemed to misplaced it in my memory.

Must be off with Lockhart or something.:D

Kneazle
November 16th, 2002, 2:45 am
Originally posted by Hettie Hoffleboffer
Could you please give me a refresher on what the Hand of Glory is?
I'll do my best, but I'm not completely informed myself. :D

Here, from the book:

A glass case nearby held a withered hand on a cushion, a bloodstained pack of cards, and a staring glass eye.
"Can I have that?" interrupted Draco, pointing at the withered hand on its cushion.

"Ah, the Hand of Glory!" said Mr. Borgin, abandoning Mr. Malfoy's
list and scurrying over to Draco. "Insert a candle and it gives light only
to the holder! Best friend of thieves and plunderers! Your son has fine
taste, sir."

"I hope my son will amount to more than a thief or a plunderer,
Borgin," said Mr. Malfoy coldly, and Mr. Borgin said quickly, "No
offense, sir, no offense meant -"

And then I saw it discussed in this thread (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?threadid=1701). It's all very interesting. Read the sixth post, where cbjedi posted the legend and a good link.

Hettie Hoffleboffer
November 16th, 2002, 2:53 am
Indeed! Thanks for the info, and the link!

Brad Redfield
November 16th, 2002, 3:04 am
OH MY GOD! That movie was horrible!.....

















To make me wait for Prisoner of Azkaban to be made!:evil:

Special Effects:
10/10

BRAVO! BRAVO ILM! This is some of your best work yet! Dobby is extremly realistic (Yet cute. Lol.). He looked real too. No special effect has done that since The Lord of the Rings:The Fellowship of the Ring (Which there is a great trailer for The Two Towers!)!
The Ford was great too! The Aragog scene was great and gross! I loved it! The chase throughout the Forbidden Forest (Or the Dark Forest) was spectacular! The Chamber of Secrets showdown was great! BRAVO! The basilisk looked EXACTLY how I imagined him. The Whomping Willow was great too! Can't wait to see more of it in the next chapter! Qudditch...oh boy, that was great too! Even faster than Sorcerer's Stone and more brutal and violent! Great!:clappy: If this keeps up, this will be some compettion for The Return of the King next year. (Or the year after. :( )

Acting:
10/10

Daniel is ALOT better than he was in Sorcerer's Stone. He is now alot more expressive with his face and he now gives a dramatic performance. Rupert...is...hilarious! He had me laughing! Good job! Emma is pretty **** good. Hermione is alittle layed back. Alan, Maggie, Harris (R.I.P. You shall be missed. :( ) were great! Too bad they didn't have more screen time.... Kenneth was spectacular as Lockhart! BRAVO!

Overall movie:
I have only minor (MINOR) gripes. The clapping scene at the end was alittle weird. But they ended it splendidly! John William's score is softer now, and if great! Even better than the first score! I want to buy that CD. BADLY. Overall, the movie was great, the pacing was alittle faster (Which I found SS's pacing alittle slow.) and spectacular SFX ,acting. The cuts were as dramatic as SS's cuts from JK's work. Overall, it'll be sad that Columbus shall pass the torch on to a new director. This new one has ALOT to stand up to. Well, this shall be a movie I will be watching for quite awhile now. This offically killed the wait for The Two Towers. YAY!:clappy: Roll on Prisoner of Azkaban!:clappy:

Overall movie: 10/10

go_anna40
November 16th, 2002, 3:11 am
lol.

it seems that ILM did a lot better job this time. i'm still waiting, but i can't wait.

Fleur
November 16th, 2002, 5:00 am
It was much better than the 1st movie. The pacing issues I had a minor problem with were noexsistent in CoS, except the Dursleys. I would have enjoyed to see more Ginny having a crush on Harry, and I missed the Oh, Potter, you rotter (at least Fred and George did remark about turning the Hufflepuff Quidditch team into something) I miss Fred and Geroge's hijinks.
The Quidditch was so much better than before, they did not look cartoony at all. The ending was kind of strange, with all the clapping, (but I was distracted by my friend who in response to Errol not getting to Azkaban, said, "Aww Ron" and proceeded to sing the Happy Days theme song)


But all the new castmembers were great (loved lockhart to Ron, "Do you live here?" :lol: )

And I really wouldn't mind if Sean Biggerstaff had 20 more minutes of screentime :crush: :p

Sabrina
November 16th, 2002, 7:08 am
That monvie was great!it ws fantastic!!erroll was funny......fly fly fly-smack(waps into window)my sense of humor is mean sometimes............i hate spiders!!!the part in the dark forest was like i screamed so loud it was pathetic...i like that movie."Goyle,why r u wearing glasses?"
"reading"
"reading?i didn`t know u could read"i loved that part!!!!the chamber of secrets was wierd.....my friend was there and he thought harry was going 2 die in the end before fawkes saved him.:clappy: :clappy: Herminoe loves harry!:crush: lol-sorry evil sense of humor again.:) they cut off a few parts but it was still...good.

MagpieOnaga
November 16th, 2002, 7:11 am
Oh. My. God. I loved it. Just loved it. Wow.


I mean, the more I think about it, the more I wish I could go back and fast forward to all the best parts. There were so MANY of them....so many little tidbits from the book, direct-quotes placed with perfect timing into the scenes, little hillarious bits that had the whole audience laughing.

I don't really want to write a full review....I just don't know what to say, really. And to be honest, I can't remember all the parts I liked.

Some highlights:

-The Burrow. Not necessarily the house itself (they didn't show enough of it, to be honest), but the things that happened while they were in there. Percy's hair (haha!), Errol, Ginny's look of absolute surprise when she saw Harry (isn't she the cutest? "where's my cauldron"? :p), and finally, my FAVORITE PART OF THE WHOLE MOVIE, when Mrs. Weasley tells Mr. Weasley about the boys stealing the car, and Mr. Weasley says, "Oh really! How'd it go?" That was classic. Absolutely perfect. Hillarious.

- Arthur Weasley. He's PERFECT! So great! I loved him. Too bad they didn't include the fight in Flourish and Blotts. Oh well.

-Ron. There are no words to express how much I loved Rupert in this film. He absolutely stole the show for me, and being my favorite character doesn't hurt either. He's just so....wonderful. I don't even know how to explain just why I liked him so much...but everyone who saw the movie will know what I mean. He's perfected Ron in a way I never would have thought possible.

-Ginny. She's just so cute! There wasn't enough of her.

-The scene at Privet Drive with the pudding. I actually thought that was done better in the movie than in the book...the way you see Harry with his arms reaching out so it seems as if he's doing the magic himself (or dumping the pudding on Miss Mason with his own two hands, as the Masons must have seen it).....The Dursleys, with utter desperation to calm their guests' distress, "Our nephew! Meeting strangers upset him..."! You almost feel sorry for them. Quite a well-done, funny scene.

-The slug scene. I thought it was funny. Another shining moment for Ron, of course.

-The spider scene. Ron's reactions, his squeaky voice, were classic. My sister and I were laughing silently next to each other the entire time.

-The diary flashback scene. It was done quite well, I think. My favorite touch is when you see Myrtle's limp arm dangling from the cot, as they take her body away.

-Moaning Myrtle. I know some people didn't like her, but I thought she was great. The voice was a different spin on how I had imagined her.

-The reunion scene with Harry, Ron and Hermione. I have no idea why people think that it hints Harry and Hermione might get together....I saw it as the exact opposite. The tension between Hermione and Ron as she hesitates hugging him is just adorable. And did you see Ron's face when he hears that Hermione's arrived? He turns around and you can see the rush of relief and affection in his face. It was one of the most potent facial expressions in the movie (whereas Harry's expression is purely gladness of seeing a long-missed friend). Watch out for it the next time you watch...I swear, they are destined for each other.



.....God, there are just so many things. I couldn't possibly list them all. I HAVE to see it again. It's so great. So brilliant. Wow....geez, I'm loving it more and more as I think about it.....



Anyone else excited for Cuaron to take on the role of director? I am. I can't wait to see a new interpretation of my favorite book in the series, and I hope Cuaron will guide it in a different direction. Plus, considering the three leads will still be in this one, I couldn't think of three better people (I'm really going to be sad when they're done). I'm desperate for that movie to surpass even CoS as far as including all the little aspects that make Harry Potter such a great series.

GryffndorBeater
November 16th, 2002, 7:34 am
OH MY GOD!!!!! IT WAS :censored:IN' FABULOUS!!!

So I missed school and saw it three times, first alone, second with this random girl I met, and third time with my mom and about six eight year old girls, lol.

Each time it got better, to be honest the first run through I was dissapointed :( I thought the dialogue was full of awkward pauses and said wrong and that it went alond too fast and wouldn't make sense to those who didn't read the book, but then the second time through I LOVED it!

I dunnow what everyone else thinks but Lockheart was SOOOOO funny!! I hate him in the books, I thought book two would be better off without him, but he's just HILARIOUS in the movie!!!

There are way too many things I could go on about, but everyone else already has! Just one critique though...

MORE FRED AND GEORGE!!!

Oh, and pay attention to the credits next time...In the category of Slytherin Seekers...just a tiny mistake I caught...

go_anna40
November 16th, 2002, 8:29 am
no one has mentioned this, but how's Colin Creevy?

FRuiT LuPiN
November 16th, 2002, 12:13 pm
not as annoying as he was in the books...but yeah he was ok i guess

Sinistra
November 16th, 2002, 2:16 pm
I saw it yesterday and dreamed about it last night. *sigh*

It was wonderful. I could see Rupert Grint being put up for a supporting actor oscar, he was that good.

I heard a lot of different intriguing dialogue which is not in the books. I want a printout of the script to compare. There seemed to be a few lines which added to the *canon* so to speak. Admittedly the movies aren't canon, but if JKR approves the scripts it may show some new stuff.

It seemed long, but there were 20+minutes of commercials (Yuk) and previews before the actual movie. And I enjoyed the extra bit at the very end.

The acting is better, and everyone is more comfortable with their characters and the world. It's like last time they were just proving it could be done, now they are fully using it and making the most of it. And the extra time spent on the effects showed. Dobby was brilliant. I forgot he was CGI. Branaugh was perfect as Lockheart. There was less of Snape than I wanted, but it was appropriate, and he got his in on Lockheart. I noticed the woman to the left of Snape at the final feast and wondered *Trelawney?* myself.

I will go at least three or four more times. I especially want to get that new dialogue down to compare and think about it.

Alorra Spinnet
November 16th, 2002, 2:18 pm
Loved it! Plan to go back today. ;)
Things were a bit rushed but, the indivdual scenes were great. :)
As for the bit at the end of the credits, Lockhart! :rotfl:

Chocolate Frogs
November 16th, 2002, 2:19 pm
The movie was great! I'm seeing it again tomorrow!

symplet
November 16th, 2002, 2:28 pm
*WARNING* Ok, I saw the movie last night, discussed it for an hour with my parents and brothers and sister, and then went to sleep. So now, I'm not high headed as I was last night, so please don't kill me if I'm not all hyper as most of you seemed to be when you wrote your review. *END OF WARNING*

First of all, what I liked:

- The kids' acting has improved a lot. They seemed a lot more confident on screen and are now not affraid to steal the spotlight when it's their turn to do so.

-Lockhart. One word to describe Branagh's acting: Brilliant!! I must say that I first I was very sceptical when they chose him, but, wow! He's just right! Annoying the other characters just like he should be! Too bad he didn't get more screen time! I would've love to see this character more developped.

-Lucius Mafoy. Again, WOW! Jason Isaacs is just the perfect villain. And the man knows how to handle a cane! :elaugh:

-Dumbledore. I loved how the way he said "Anything you wish to tell me, Tom?" is identical to the "Anything you wish to tell me, Harry?" he said earlier, impling that he sees right through both boys. And now, we can be certain that Dumbledore can see through invisibility cloaks.

-Mrs Weasley. Again, Julie Walters was just perfect. I loved how she can act all hangry, but than be joyfull the next second. "Of course, I don't blame you Harry!"

-The Howler! :lol: "Congratulations for making Griffindor Giny. Your father and I are so proud!" That was priceless!

-The Weasley's home. As soon as Fred/George opens the door, you wich this was your home. You can feel how friendly and warm it is inside. I wish I lived there.


And now, the thing that, in my opinion, could've been better:

-Mr Weasley. I love this character in the books, his fixation with electricity and all, but he never got to me in the movie. I felt like he was more part of the decor that an actual character.

-the ending of the movie. When I woke up this morning, I was asking my self "How did this movie ended anyway?" I couldn't remember if there was anything after Hagrid's return, as sign that, for me, the ending could've been better. And by the way, why has Hagrid become THE school hero? It's not like he did anything to save them all! Yeah, they can can be really happy that he is back, but, just by the way kids, two 12 years old blokes just save all your life (and your school). Couldn't you congratulate them a bit too?

-Ginny. They didn't gave her enough screen time to actually feel sorry for the girl. And no elbow in the butter dish? Pity...

- NO DEGNOMING OF THE GARDEN??? *winy voice*Please!*end winy voice* That was the scene I was most eager to see! They even did a card game out of it, so the least they could've done is putting it in the movie!

-NO VALENTINE'S DAY??? Oooh, but I wanted to see the dwarves with their little wings... "His eyes are as green as a fresh pickled toad..."

- I wish they would've left the battle in Flourish and Blott (sp?) Seeing Lucis loosing his temper would've been nice... :evil:


So, in over all, I guess I would give it a 7.5/10, but don't worry, I will certainly go see it again, and this time, I'll stay til the end of the credits!

daniel4hp
November 16th, 2002, 3:02 pm
The thing I most noticed about this film is that they were really pressed for time. To get it all into 2.5 hours was clearly hard and they cut a lot of stuff. Many of the scenes were not fully developed and at times I felt it was a little hard to follow if you didn't already know the story. The whole movie was taken up with the essentials because to fit them in took up almost all of the time. This meant that many other things were not fully developed, such as people's reaction to Harry speaking Parseltoungue and Ginny's withdrawnness. Overall I think the movie would have been much better with and extra hour, not just because I didn't want it to end, but because so much had to be cut. However, this would have been to long for people to sit though, so you would have to put in an intermission, but that would stretch the total time to about 4 hours and 15 minutes (counting ads and previews) so that movie theaters couldn't get in as many showings a day and they couldn't show as late, which would mean that they would have to show it on extra screens, so the result is that they wouldn't want it.

However, despite the time contraints, it was a fairly good movie. They did well with what time they had and the actors were all good. The screenplay was good although at times it appeared to have been cut back. Overall I think it was a good film; I'd probably give it about 7/10.

Megan Mystic
November 16th, 2002, 3:30 pm
OMG saw it last night it was amazing!


~ The begining was a bit rushed but still loved it anyway.

~ Loved florush and blotts but um did anyone notice he never anounce he was going to teach at hogwarts or was i just not paying attention?

~ Loved quidditch and the weasleys house

~ The chamber was SO COOL! I swear i didn't blink the whole time.

~ Fawks was alright...not exactly my vision but still cool.

~ Richard harris had a stunning last performance. *Makes rock on symbol* Rock on forever Mr. Harris

~ Was it just me or was every single ship in this movie? I mean the were those scenes with hermione being petrified and harry getting all emotional-there was harry comforting ginny in the chamber-there was the whole awkwardness with Hermione and ron at the end which i found 2 funny and there was well in my eyes i could see some kind hint to one of my faves ships Mione/Darco!

~I was teary(Im serious) when hermione got all worked up about the Mudblood thing. GOD! i swear that was to sad.

~ Harry (or dan i should say) kicked some serious butt in the chamber!

~Tom Riddle and the flash back scene were incredible.

~ Draco was very evil n this movie almost as evil to the point were you think hes hott. (What the heck is wrong with me LOL :p )

~ Lucious was very good

~My favorite part of the whole thing was the end when harry gives lucious back the diary. and the whole sock thing. where harry lifts up his pant leg that was so cute and the way he says never try and save my life again That was the best!

~The basilisk was just how i imagined it YAY!

Over all I loved this film. It had tiny flaws that i am VERY willing to look over. I hope I can see it at least 5 times during opening weekend!

FRED ASTAIRE
November 16th, 2002, 4:09 pm
Originally posted by daniel4hp
The thing I most noticed about this film is that they were really pressed for time. To get it all into 2.5 hours was clearly hard and they cut a lot of stuff. Many of the scenes were not fully developed and at times I felt it was a little hard to follow if you didn't already know the story. The whole movie was taken up with the essentials because to fit them in took up almost all of the time. This meant that many other things were not fully developed, such as people's reaction to Harry speaking Parseltoungue and Ginny's withdrawnness. Overall I think the movie would have been much better with and extra hour, not just because I didn't want it to end, but because so much had to be cut. However, this would have been to long for people to sit though, so you would have to put in an intermission, but that would stretch the total time to about 4 hours and 15 minutes (counting ads and previews) so that movie theaters couldn't get in as many showings a day and they couldn't show as late, which would mean that they would have to show it on extra screens, so the result is that they wouldn't want it.

However, despite the time contraints, it was a fairly good movie. They did well with what time they had and the actors were all good. The screenplay was good although at times it appeared to have been cut back. Overall I think it was a good film; I'd probably give it about 7/10.






EXACTLY!!!!!

This is what I was trying to get throuhg to people!!! It's not that I did not like the movie; it just DID NOT FLOW for me!!! I thought I was the only one who saw this!!!!


Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!


Will come back later (okay, I hear people groaning---hehe) and get into detail!!!! My mum and I are going shopping :'( ! I hate shopping with my mum! She takes too long :grumble: :whistle: :D

daniel4hp
November 16th, 2002, 4:13 pm
~ Fawks was alright...not exactly my vision but still cool.
Fawkes himself was quite good in my opinion, but I found the Phoenix Song a little lacking. Was that little sqeaky noice that Fawkes made supposed to be the Phoenix Song?

~ Loved florush and blotts but um did anyone notice he never anounce he was going to teach at hogwarts or was i just not paying attention?
Nope, he never did say that, and there wasn't any fight between Mr. Weasly and Mr. Malfoy. I felt that scene was slightly rushed. As I said before, it all would have done better with an extra hour.

~ The chamber was SO COOL! I swear i didn't blink the whole time.
The actual set was okay, but I must say it was not much like I pictured it. I always thought of it as this huge chamber, say 60 feet wide by 100 feet long, with a line of pillars about 15 or so feet from each side and spaced the same distance (15 feet) from each other, running all the way down the chamber. I also pictured a very large statue at the end, right in the middle. Maybe it was just me, but I didn't see either the pillars (described in the book) or an impressive statue. There seemed to be a sort of statue at the end, but not much like I pictured. Anyway, I thought that the set was okay, except that it didn't really follow the book.

Sabrina
November 16th, 2002, 4:35 pm
What other parts...........i`d have 2 re-read the book too..........just be suer on what they took out..........oh!they changed the sock part(at the end with dobby and harry puts the diary in the sock)instead of that,harry put the sockin the sock. and lucius malfoy handed dobby the diary.that`s all i can think of now......i`ll re-read the book and find out.................:)

Oooleander
November 16th, 2002, 4:37 pm
Hi everyone! Happy Saturday!
Hey, did anyone else think they saw J.K. Rowling on the station platform, just around when Harry and Ron failed to get through the barrier/wall? If you are going to see the movie today, have a look for me,OK? It's just a two second shot of a longish-haired, blonde woman finishing talking to a train guard, but it has nothing to do with the action and I know lots of writers have made miniscule, "cameo" appearances on their own movies. It would be fun if it was her!
I enjoyed the movie, but was sad so much of what makes JK Rowling exceptional just wasn't there. This one was a touch too much "Hollywood". They have such a mature, breath-taking cast of actors, they don't need so much razmatazz to keep it compelling and thrilling... in my humble opinion. But, I wouldn't have missed it for the world, and it certainly has made this week exciting!

Sabrina
November 16th, 2002, 4:40 pm
Well,i forgot them all.......................harry put the sock in the diary............i`ll think.......and re-read the book.:)

Sabrina
November 16th, 2002, 4:45 pm
Originally posted by Oooleander
Hi everyone! Happy Saturday!
Hey, did anyone else think they saw J.K. Rowling on the station platform, just around when Harry and Ron failed to get through the barrier/wall? If you are going to see the movie today, have a look for me,OK? It's just a two second shot of a longish-haired, blonde woman finishing talking to a train guard, but it has nothing to do with the action and I know lots of writers have made miniscule, "cameo" appearances on their own movies. It would be fun if it was her!
I enjoyed the movie, but was sad so much of what makes JK Rowling exceptional just wasn't there. This one was a touch too much "Hollywood". They have such a mature, breath-taking cast of actors, they don't need so much razmatazz to keep it compelling and thrilling... in my humble opinion. But, I wouldn't have missed it for the world, and it certainly has made this week exciting!
I SAW HER!!I SAW HER!! I SAW HER!!;) :clappy: ;) :clappy:

Lioness87
November 16th, 2002, 4:48 pm
Overall I really like the film. I thought that it was well-done and def. kept me interested for the whole 2 1/2 hours. But I found myself being much more critical of this movie then of SS. I kept mentally comparing it to the book, and noticing how much they left out and how short a lot of the scenes were. I think this might be because when I went to see SS for the first time I hadn't read any of the books yet. It was the movie that really turned me on to the series. Now having read all the books about 4-5 times each I found that I really couldn't just sit back and relax while the cut out scenes and skimmed over stuff that I thought was important. I personally think that they should make 2 versions of the film....one that follows the book EXACTLY, even if it is like 4 hours long I wouldn't care.....and one shorter version like the recent release that's about half the time and is for more of a younger audience.

And another quick note...did anyone else have a lot of crying and LOUD kids when they went?

In the theater and show that I went to (the 11am showing) I found that there were a TON of really young kids there that had a hard time sitting through a 2 1/2 hour movie. And what really annoyed me the most is that their parents didn't know enough to leave the theater with them until they calmed down. They tried to calm them down in the theater...totally annoying!

I'll just make sure to go at night the next time (like 10pm show)

eternalcircle
November 16th, 2002, 7:22 pm
Originally posted by MagpieOnaga

-The reunion scene with Harry, Ron and Hermione. I have no idea why people think that it hints Harry and Hermione might get together....I saw it as the exact opposite. The tension between Hermione and Ron as she hesitates hugging him is just adorable. And did you see Ron's face when he hears that Hermione's arrived? He turns around and you can see the rush of relief and affection in his face. It was one of the most potent facial expressions in the movie (whereas Harry's expression is purely gladness of seeing a long-missed friend). Watch out for it the next time you watch...I swear, they are destined for each other.


I do not think it hints Harry and Hermione might get together but I do think it hints that RON is fond of Hermione, but not the other way round. Just look closely after the part where Ron and HErmione shake hands. The camera pans in to Ron's face.. showing him staring at Hermione longingly. Hermione, on the other hand, was oblivious to Ron. Instead she seemed more interested in Harry than she is in Ron.

daniel4hp
November 16th, 2002, 8:54 pm
I personally think that they should make 2 versions of the film....one that follows the book EXACTLY, even if it is like 4 hours long I wouldn't care.....and one shorter version like the recent release that's about half the time and is for more of a younger audience.
It would be impossible to do this for the theater for a couple of reasons: 1) Theaters wouldn't want two different Harry Potter movies, and more importantly, 2) Theaters wouldn't take a movie if it was four hours long because it wouldn't fit their schedule. However, I think that a DVD should be available that contains a much less cut version of the movie that is at least 1 hour longer. Especially with this movie I felt that they needed more time to fully develop the story, so I think that they should do this on the DVD and have it be 3.5 or even 4 hours long. People who don't want to sit through that much can always stop it and continue later.

And another quick note...did anyone else have a lot of crying and LOUD kids when they went?
I went to the 6:30 showing and there were some small children but mostly it was okay--there weren't very many noisy kids.

JenBluffheid
November 16th, 2002, 8:55 pm
Two hours back from seeing it. I am truly stunned. I should have brought a bag of Oscars and handed it to the actors. OK, that didn't make sense ...

Seriously, though, the acting was perfect; the set was perfect; the CGI animation stuff was perfect; hell, the whole film was perfect! It was much better than Philosopher's Stone.

It started off in a way which you want credits to come up at the beginning. That's the thing it was lacking. But I survived. The humor of the film starts from the word go. I was laughing throughout it!

There were several parts which young children did find scary. The spiders, of course, coming top. However ... I did jump at a few other places. The scene in Borgin & Burkes with the hand was just wow! Lauren said: "It's going to move ..." and one second after that, it did, and we both got the fright of our lives. Also, the Basilisk crashing through the floor was amazing.

The special effects -- God, what can I say? Has to be the film with the best effects in the history of films. Dobby (who I now adore to death and I want to make an "RSPCHE" centre for them (Royal Society for the Protection of Cruelty to House Elfs)) looked real!

Kenneth Branagh as Lockhart. What a brilliant actor he is! Mark Williams as Arthur was also a great choice out of all the possible actors which could play him. However, the two who I immediately knew were perfect were Christian Coulson as Riddle and Jason Isaacs as Lucius. They were BLOODY BRILLIANT! I fell in love with a character I love to hate (Riddle, not Lucius ;)) like that. ^_^

The actors from the last film were better this time round, also. Dan, Emma, and Rupert had -- and I'm sick of hearing this myself -- definitely matured.

But one person who deserves as many awards as she can get is Shirley Henderson. She portrayed Myrtle to perfection. I didn't find her annoying in the least, I wanted more! Her voice was so childlike that it was unbelievable to stop and remind yourself that she is actually 30!

Overall, I came out of the cinema dazed, hyper, and wanting more. I can't wait for the next film!

pasalita
November 16th, 2002, 9:27 pm
Saw it twice on opening day, and I'm proud of it!!

One thing must be said: Emma Watson steals the show.

PrtVeela
November 16th, 2002, 9:37 pm
:clappy: I was sooo happy...i loved the movie!! Even my friends loved the movie...wow ...wowie wow..wow.

okay sorry i'm just so excited i have to see it again!!!
and again
and again
and again

Yoshi
November 16th, 2002, 9:46 pm
Hmm uh...... I cant realy think of any. Nice long quidditch seen though .*thimbs up*

Alorra Spinnet
November 16th, 2002, 9:46 pm
Just came back form a second viewing. ;) Just love it.
:)
Did anyone else notice what spell that Lucius was about to cast at Harry before Dobby knocked him flat? He only gets out the first word but, it's fairly obvious what he was about to try! ( and considering what happened to Voldie when he did it, you'd of thought he would ba a bit more cautious using that particular spell on Harry!)
Also, as a slight side note, I noticed that the music used when Harry is reading the name on Gryffindor's sword is the same as when he sees his parents in the Mirror of Erised. Possible fore-shadowing? ( I know, fairly sketchy at best)
:angel:

MagpieOnaga
November 16th, 2002, 9:54 pm
Ahh, now that I've had some time to think things over, more things that I liked/disliked are coming back to me.

One thing I must mention, because it was so confusing and unnerving: The ending. "Hogwarts wouldn't be the same without you, Hagrid"....was about the point where I thought they would start turning the focus back on Harry, but they just kept going with Hagrid, until it seemed like everyone in the whole school was in some sort of Hagrid-congratulating mosh pit. Ok, the book is not titled "Rubeus Hagrid and the Chamber of Secrets" This part was just insane...I didn't get it at all. Me and my sister just kept turning to each other, dumbfounded, saying "what the hell is going on?"


Oh yes, and my rating of the movie: 8.5/10. Not perfect by any means, but much more enjoyable than the first movie, and it's clear that a lot of hard work was put into making it.

dobbygirl
November 16th, 2002, 10:02 pm
WOW!!!! Two words: Lucius Malfoy Totally creepy! He was the best out of all the new characters in the movie. I'm glad to see that my husband and I weren't the only ones who noticed what spell he tried to curse Harry with. Hmmm, that was an interesting plot change.

Dobby was sooooo cool! I love him even more now. I just wanted to reach through the screen and give Lucius a good swift kick in the :censored: when he was beating up Dobby at the end. Dan did an excellent job acting with the "orange ball on a stick" that they later replaced with Dobby. You actually think that Dobby is really right in front of him.

And I loved the mandrake biting Draco, that was so funny :rotfl:. The quidditch scene rocked. I kept jumping everytime the bludger crashed into something. Although I don't remember Lucius being at the match in the book. I am I remembering wrong? Interesting though who he's sitting next to.:evil:

Ron and Hermione are going to get together. It's so obvious. Hermione's comfortable giving Harry a hug, but gets all nervous around Ron. Sounds like love to me :love:

The one major disappointment: No fight scene in Flourish and Blotts. I was so looking forward to that. Oh well. I thought the basilisk would have bigger eyes too, but that's just the way I imagined it.

My overall rating: 9/10. :bigtu:

JenBluffheid
November 16th, 2002, 10:05 pm
Originally posted by Green Ink
~ Was it just me or was every single ship in this movie? I mean the were those scenes with hermione being petrified and harry getting all emotional-there was harry comforting ginny in the chamber-there was the whole awkwardness with Hermione and ron at the end which i found 2 funny and there was well in my eyes i could see some kind hint to one of my faves ships Mione/Darco!

Darco? Lol! Seriously, though, I noticed that, too.

Harry and Ginny: The Chamber.
Harry and Hermione: Hug/Hospital Wing.
Hermione and Ron: The tension and hesitation after the hug.
Hermione and Draco: It seems a possibility that Draco could be using the "Treat them mean, keep them keen" method. Well, if he does "like" Hermione. Of course, he may not realise it ...

daniel4hp
November 16th, 2002, 10:19 pm
I know what you mean, Magpie, about the ending. It seemed that the amount of attention given Hagrid was way to much. Sure, Harry, Ron, and Hermione like Hagrid, and they can't be the only ones, but I can hardly believe that the whole school likes him that much. But then, Hagrid had a big role at the end of the first movie as well, but there it was just him with Harry and a little of Ron and Hermione.

I was kinda bothered by the fact that for all practical purposes there was no Phoenix song. JK made it sound so wonderful in the books and I was looking forward to seeing how it would be done in the movie, but it seems they just ignored it.

kgonekrazy
November 16th, 2002, 10:59 pm
Ok I saw it last night oh it was soooooooo good!!!

Everything I wanted to say everyone else said :) but i think I may head out again tonight to see it again :)

I loved Emma's face when she found out exams were not going to take place. uh, and L. Malfoy was really awsome.

fawkesthepheonix
November 16th, 2002, 11:16 pm
I loved that movie so much! I'm absolutely dying to watch it again! The hug was cute, but right before it, when Neville says "Look there's Hermione!" and Ron and Harry lean back and smile...priceless!!
Did anyone notice the Tom Fleton eyebrow thing? (I haven't read all the posts, so sorry if it's been mentioned) I was laughing so hard for some reason when he says "See you at school," and does the eyebrow thing.
Another great part was when Harry and Ron try to get onto Platform 9 3/4 and run into the barrier. It was so well done! lol. Yeah, I know, I'm easily amused.
The only bad part: Since I know the story really well (almost too well) I found myself thinking stuff like "Snape was supposed to do that...That was Dumbledore's line, not McGonagall's..." But that's my fault.
Great movie!! Can't wait to see it again!!

Kneazle
November 17th, 2002, 12:11 am
Originally posted by MagpieOnaga
One thing I must mention, because it was so confusing and unnerving: The ending. "Hogwarts wouldn't be the same without you, Hagrid"....was about the point where I thought they would start turning the focus back on Harry, but they just kept going with Hagrid, until it seemed like everyone in the whole school was in some sort of Hagrid-congratulating mosh pit. Ok, the book is not titled "Rubeus Hagrid and the Chamber of Secrets" This part was just insane...I didn't get it at all. Me and my sister just kept turning to each other, dumbfounded, saying "what the hell is going on?"
lol! For some reason, Maggie, reading that cracked me up. I must agree. I was surprised by that as well. And the Slytherins! The Slytherins were clapping! Crabbe was standing up to cheer! :banghead: I was in convulsions of confused laughter during the whole of it. It's Harry's show, for goodness' sake!

pasalita- Emma Watson was so good. That is the Hermione I admire most. She wasn't quite . . . whole in the first. Not to me, at least. Same with Harry. Heck, they all were more like themselves in this one.

Ali
November 17th, 2002, 12:37 am
just came home from the movies... first off I have to say that this was MUCH MUCH better than the first... you could see the improvements in the actors/actresses (specially the youngsters)... there were however some disapointing points about the movie such as the one Maggie mentioned... but generally speaking I enjoyed it very much (the quidditch, the dueling part, basilik, the spiders in the forest and much much more....) and I have to say that im already anxious to see the next harry potter movie. :)

Anne
November 17th, 2002, 12:51 am
Well, I feel like everything I could say about the movie has been said already!

First off, I'd give the movie about 8/10. I was very impressed. Much better than the first.

Acting
Harry - Much better. He manages some real emotions this time around, and benefits from not having to be confused all the time, I think.

Hermione - I actaully thought she was better in SS. :sorry: I don't think anything will ever top how well she delivered the "books and cleverness" line in SS. This time her performance just didn't seem as clean.

Draco - Same as Hermione. I thought he was better in the first film. His performance just didn't have the edge it had before.

Ron - Excellent as always. That boy has the most amazing facial expressions! He's a natural born comedian.

Snape - His characterization seemed very different to me. He didn't seem nearly as reserved and moody as he did in the first movie. This may be due to the fact that he was no longer under suspicion, but that irks me. Snape doesn't change just because our perception of him changes. He's still the same mean, nasty Snape he always was. :grumble:

Dumbledore - Same as before. Richard Harris just doesn't capture Dumbledore, in my opinion. His characterization is entirely wrong. :shrug:

Lockhart - Woohoo! Rock on Kenneth Branaugh!!

Lucius - Very well done! I couldn't have imagined a better Lucius!

Dobby - Much better than I expected. I hate Dobby, but I managed to enjoy his scenes in the film.

Myrtle - Oooh, I did not like Myrtle! They took far too much liberty with her character, IMO.

Tom Riddle - What a hottie! Very nice performance, and again, what a hottie!

Length/Pacing/Cut Scenes
I thought they did as well as they could with the complexity of the plot. The truth is, these books are far too long to put into a single movie, so you have to choose between an unfaithful movie and a rushed movie. I'll take the latter, thank you.

Overall
I'm very impressed. This movie felt so much more like the book for me than SS did. They managed to capture the tone much more effectively.

The ending was quite cheesy, but I must admit that seeing Hermione cry because she loves Hagrid so much moved me. I'm ashamed to admit it, but there you have it.

I'll say it again: Tom Riddle. What a hottie!!

daniel4hp
November 17th, 2002, 1:28 am
I thought they did as well as they could with the complexity of the plot. The truth is, these books are far too long to put into a single movie, so you have to choose between an unfaithful movie and a rushed movie. I'll take the latter, thank you.
Yes, rushed is better than unfaithful. I know that the first one was somewhat rushed as well, but I felt it much more in this one because there was more in the first that could be cut. Here the whole film was filled with the actual plot and there was not much development of characters, feelings, ect. However, this couldn't be helped. They had to get it into the max of 2.5 hours and that plot took up all that time.

Okay, I'll rate the actors now...

Harry:
a. Better than first movie--he seemed more relaxed and seems a little more "real."
b. Rating: 8.5/10

Hermione:
a. Same as first movie--good both times
b. Rating: 7.5/10

Ron:
a. Same as first movie--quite good. He's good with facial expressions.
b. Rating: 8.5/10

Draco:
a. Better in first movie--his acting seemed smoother and cleaner in the first movie.
b. Rating: 7/10

Dumbledore:
a. Better than first move--in this movie he fit into is role very well. He seems a little more relaxed in this film.
b. Rating: 9/10

Snape:
a. Better in first movie--he didn't seem as vilinous in this movie, but partly thats because he isn't developed as much.
b. Rating: 7/10

Lockhart:
a. [no comparison] He fit very well into his role.
b. Rating: 9.5/10

Lucius:
a. [no comparison] He too fit fairly well into his role.
b. Rating: 8/10

Tom Riddle:
a. [no comparison] Generally good performance.
b. Rating: 8/10

Moaning Myrtle:
a. [no comparison] Fairly good. Not exactly like I pictured her, but still a generally good performance.
b. Rating: 7.5/10

Dobby:
a. [no comparison] Very good. I was afraid he would look rather fake but he seemed to fit in well. Better than I expected.
b. Rating: 9/10

Cheshire
November 17th, 2002, 2:27 am
I loved this movie!!! LoL, ok, now, if I were nit-picking, I could complain about lots of things, but tehre was really only 2 MAJOR things that bothered me.

1) Ron. I love Rupert Grint, and I love Ron, so it drove me crazy that they completely screwed up that character. They gave a lot fo Ron's lines to Hermione, and they made him out to be useless. He never gave a reason for not liking spiders, which made him seem like a complete wuss, especially next to Harry. He seemed to have no knowledge of the wizarding world, and if he did, he never spoke up. It was always Hermione. Basically his job was to be the comedy relief. Even when he found out about Ginny,they showed no emotional scene or anything. I'm happy to see that the few (very few) non-comedic lines were done beautifully by Rupert (like "Ginny!" for example...). I think he's completely capable of playing both the humorous and serious sides of Ron, but they took away the latter.

2)"Fear of a name increases fear of the thing itself." Isn't that Dumbledore's line?? Why did Hermione say it? And doesn't she say You-Know-Who too? I thought JKR made a big deal every time someone said Voldemort (Dumbledore, Lupin and of course Harry.). That just bugged me. A lot.

Ok, well, that's all that REALLY bugged me, although there are tiny little insignificant things they changed when they didn't have too (Ginny's crush and Colin's obsession with Harry was practically diminished if you ask me). Really though, I loved the film. I'm seeing it again next Saturday probably :) :) :)

Oh, and one thing I ADORED was the hug/handshake thing at the end. I am a complete R/H shipper, and that was SOOO forshadowing. Colombus even said so in an interview. Hermione and Ron didn't wanna hug cuz it would give away to much. "That's where the tension is" as Colombus said.

Alright, well I'm done [for now;)].

Sam
November 17th, 2002, 2:32 am
I L-O-V-E-D the movie!
I had a great time watching it, and look forward to seeing it again.

I agree that I cannot wait until the third movie comes out...so that we can see more of the Weasley's. I also really loved Issacs (sp?) as Lucius Malfoy. Excellent!

I have nothing but rave reviews!:clappy:

majo
November 17th, 2002, 3:12 am
I got back from seeing this about an hour ago. One word: WOW!
:tu: :tu:
It was so much better than the first one.

Things I liked:
-Lucius Malfory: He was perfect.
-The acting was so much better than in the first one.
-Hug/handshake at the end. :love:
-Dobby worked! He really did! I was probably the most worried about that him (I kept thinking "Jar Jar"!) but it worked!
-The staircase up to Dumbledores office was cooler than I ever could have imagined.
-Quidditch was so much better this time.
-The score.
-Slugs. I was also worried about this one, but it was good.
-"Avada..." Awesome. Although my friend who had never read the books was asking me why I was going nuts. :D
-Listening to the adorable kids sitting next to me react to what happened on screen.
-Lockhart. Hilarious. My friend sitting next to me told me she wanted to slap him every time he came on screen. When Ron finally hit him, she cheered!
-Tom Riddle: Good. Very evil. The letters were cool.

There were many, many more, it's so hard to think of them all. After I go see it again, I'll have more.

Things I didn't like:
-The ending. Clapping for Hagrid? What was that? Didn't Harry just save the school?
-Richard Harris as Dumbledore. I felt the same way when I saw the first movie. He just isn't what I think Dumbledore should be like.
-Harry grabbing the sword by the blade. Why?

Anyway, I loved it. I hope I'll be able to go see it again within the next week, then I'm sure I'll have more to say.
I give it a 8.75/10. Just to compare, I felt PS deserved a 6.75/10

MagpieOnaga
November 17th, 2002, 3:33 am
Lol, Kneazle..yes, we were laughing as well!

Some guy in the row in front of me laughed really loud as the students started swarming around Hagrid. Everybody in the theatre followed suit -- we were all in stunned confusion, which can be quite amusing when someone voices it!


Anyway, good idea, Anne, to review the characters! I'll do the same.

Harry: Brilliant. Daniel Radcliffe has not only matured physically this past year -- it's clear that his acting abilities have grown exponentially between the first and second movies. As so many have said, he really seems more comfortable in his role here, and I thought it showed most in the scenes where we see the essence of Harry's character.

Hermione: I like Emma Watson, but she just doesn't quite click for me, as Hermione. I know it's trivial, but she's just too likeable to be the Hermione that I know. She's no longer the extremely bossy, fairly annoying, slightly quirky character that she is in the books. They make her too perfect, without any real noticeable flaws (whereas she has many in the books, and it makes her a more relatable character). The fact that she's too pretty to be Hermione is simply the final straw for me, as far as her portrayal.

Ron: Like I said before, Ron stole the show for me. I know many of you were dissapointed that Ron's bravery is downplayed in the movie, but I really didn't mind that much. I love Rupert Grint in these movies, and I honestly really like the spin they've taken on Ron's character. He's hillarious, and the laughs he generates give the movie vibrancy and make it more enjoyable on the whole. I think we see a lot of the essence of Ron's character in this movie, but it's mostly in the smaller, more toned-down scenes, rather than the fast-paced action scenes where bravery is called for. Harry can be the hero -- that's fine. I've always felt closer to Ron than to Harry -- he doesn't need to be brave, or a hero to win my fandom.

Hagrid: Yeah, I thought Robbie Coltrane did a wonderful job! About as good as he did in the first movie, I'd say. He was great, even despite the horrible ending sequence....

Dumbledore: Ok, sorry, I don't mean any disrespect to the late Richard Harris, but I never liked his portrayal of Dumbledore. I agree with Anne.

Lucius Malfoy: Um.....no. He's an excellent villain, and I think he's deliciously evil as Malfoy, but I HATE HATE HATE his stupid get-up! That is NOT how I pictured Malfoy's father. I saw him with short blonde hair, and possibly a goatee, and wearing the cloak-equivalent of an expensive, black suit. Like the rich, "well-bred" man he is. The Lucius in the movie looks like....well, I don't know what he looks like. The long hair irked me, and the cane? Um....no.

Draco Malfoy: I think he's improved since the last film. He had more screen time in this one, and his character is explored a little better than in the first film. His performance was good, and he had some excellent lines. ("I didn't know you could read." lol! )

Snape: Eh, he was pretty good. Much better than in the first movie, but they didn't give him enough screen time!!

Filch: I think they're doing a great job with Filch...I really like the guy they got to play him. Did you notice him at the end, during the feast? As Hermione enters, you can see him standing by the door, stroking Miss Norris affectionately...it's actually really touching. :p


Ginny: The girl they got to play her is perfect. I really liked her...especially the scene at the Burrow where she comes down into the dining room and starts talking to her parents, and then sees Harry and darts out of the room. The look on her face when she first saw Harry was priceless!

Arthur Weasley: Unlike the majority of people I've heard talk about him, I really liked him. Once again, they just didn't give him enough screen time. But with the little time they gave him, I think he did a good job. He had my favorite line in the entire movie...."How'd it go?"

Molly Weasley: Ehh, she was pretty good. Not perfect, but just good. I liked the Howler part....(yeah, it's so cute when she congratulates Ginny on getting into Gryffindor...the look of embarrassment on Ginny's face is adorable)

Lockhart: Wow!! Kenneth Branagh did a great job....I loved all of the book covers and photos. Hillarious! He was by far the best new character....though I would have liked to see more of him. I loved the part when he got pushed into the chamber, after he hit the floor of the tunnel.....I can't remember what he said, but it was really funny.

Tom Riddle: He was great! Yeah, I can't really think of anything to say....except, I really liked the diary flashback scene. That was excellent.

Moaning Myrtle: I loved her! She wasn't quite what I imagined the character to be, but I really like the way they did it. Her voice was so...cool. It was really annoying and mouse-like...I really liked it.


FawkesPheonix -- I loved the part where they ran into the barrier! I must be easily amused as well. :p

kgonecrazy -- Yes, I saw that look on Hermione's face as well! When Dumbledore announces that the exams are cancelled, she mouths "Oh no!", or something like that. Only some of the audience laughed with me on that one, but I thought it was hillarious!

Kneazle
November 17th, 2002, 4:08 am
I forgot about Colin! He was really good, IMO. Not quite as I imagine him, but still a sound portrayal. I loved how they used a simple flash of a camera to let us know he was alright at the end!

seashell323
November 17th, 2002, 5:23 am
It's good to hear that all of you liked the movie so much! I'm going to see it tomorrow (finally!). :D I can't wait to see Kenneth Branagh as Lockhart. Since I'm a big Shakespeare fan, I've seen a lot of his movies, and he is an amazing actor.

pasalita
November 17th, 2002, 5:41 am
Yes, Kenneth Branagh definitely captured the essence of Lockhart. The same can be said for Jason Isaacs who played Lucius. They both rocked and were great additions to the cast! Oh, and I felt that the woman that played Professor Sprout (I forget her name) did well, too. She captured that high school lab teacher vibe, at least to me.

Oh, and being a Harry/Hermoine shipper, I liked the added holding of petrified hands, the hug, and the adorable looks of rapture on Harry's (and Ron's) face at the end of the movie. Funnily enough, I never really realized how much Hermoine is in danger in the plot until the film because of her muggle background. I don't know why it never made as much of an impact before. Though, this film solidified the fact that Hermoine is definitely my favorite female character. I mean, the boys really can't get along without her!

Cheshire
November 17th, 2002, 5:42 am
Ron: Like I said before, Ron stole the show for me. I know many of you were dissapointed that Ron's bravery is downplayed in the movie, but I really didn't mind that much. I love Rupert Grint in these movies, and I honestly really like the spin they've taken on Ron's character. He's hillarious, and the laughs he generates give the movie vibrancy and make it more enjoyable on the whole. I think we see a lot of the essence of Ron's character in this movie, but it's mostly in the smaller, more toned-down scenes, rather than the fast-paced action scenes where bravery is called for. Harry can be the hero -- that's fine. I've always felt closer to Ron than to Harry -- he doesn't need to be brave, or a hero to win my fandom.

I know I'm one of those people who are upset about the downplaying of Ron's character (did that make sense?! lol) but I have to agree with certain things you've said.. Like the laughs he generates thing. That's totally true and I love that, but he's more than JUST laughs. Just like Hermione is more than just a brain and Harry is more than just courage. He seems like a one demensional character. Also, you HAVE to agree that they could have at least made him slightly more upset when his sister was taken into the chamber. I mean, in the book he's sitting in the common room, he's constantly rubbing his eyes and he keeps trying to convince himself that she's alive. In the movie, he gasps "Ginny!" and then all of a sudden there in Lockhart's office. But like I said, I can agree with you, and even see your point of view. I just think they could have added more, given him more knowledge (or should I say, allowed him to keep the knowledge he had)
Sorry, I know I'm repeating myself and stuff. So sorry!!!!:o

MagpieOnaga
November 17th, 2002, 5:50 am
Thanks Cheshire, I'm glad you agree with me on some of my points there. :) I agree with you, as well. There's no doubt that I would have liked Ron even more if they had done everything you mentioned (drawing out his distress at Ginny's capture, given him more depth of character, allowing him to be more than just the sidekick). But as it stands, Ron still outshines Harry and Hermione by far, in his likeability and hilarity. I absolutely loved him in the film, even though I prefer the Ron of the books.

go_anna40
November 17th, 2002, 6:05 am
i'm still waiting :'( .

matahari toad
November 17th, 2002, 10:37 am
To be honest, I didn`t like it that much. Why do they always have to "heroize" Harry in that hollywood-fashion way?? I mean, there was hardly anything about his doubts (you know, belonging to Slytherin or not etc.). And then all these stunts and sentences like "Ginny get out of here, Ron is waiting for you outside the Chamber!". To my mind it makes him kind of superhuman in a corny way and I don't think that tallies with the spirit of the book AT ALL. The sets were nice and the actors were ok, too, but I feel Chris Columbus isn't really getting the point of the books... well, I'm really looking forward to seeing the next one directed by ... (sorry forgot the name...the "y tu mama tambien2 director...) see what he makes of it... :whistle: :whistle:

Pizza In A Cup
November 17th, 2002, 3:31 pm
I saw it last night. This movie was awesome! Not just, awesome, but more LIKE OMFG DIS MOVIE WAS SO AWESOME!211!!@!@! Lucius Malfoy was my favorite actor in this movie, at first when I saw the trailer, I thought the hair was weird, but now I can't even imagine what I thought it looked like.

-The basilisk was great...except Ron said (when they saw the snake skin) that it must be atleast 60 feet, but in the book's, didn't he say 30 feet?

-The Chamber Of Secrets...that set was not that great, IMO. Wasn't the statue supposed the be a whole body, not just the head of Slytherin? And the Tom Riddle / Harry Potter talking scene was just not complete. He didn't even say anything about how Ginny told Tom about Harry...

-Oh, and I've been pronouncing Ginny's name wrong too. Its pronounced like "Jinny" not "Ginny". Oh well.

-The ending was just flat out stupid and corny. Its a kids movie, but sheesh, they just showed a giant snake get his eyes stabbed out and a house elf get kicked in the arse, and now they're going to show everyone clapping and crying for Hagrid? I think that they should have just cut that scene and put in one where they are leaving to go to Platform Nine and 3/4, just like they do in all the books.

-The best scene in the movie...THE SPIDER SCENE!!! That was great...

-Best line in the movie "Why are you wearing glasses?" "reading" "Reading?...I didn't know you could read."


EDIT: Oh yea, HE STILL HAS BLUE EYES!!! Ugh...Harry Potter with blue eyes is like Hermione being stupid and Ron having brown hair...


Overall, this movie was great. 8.7/10


The third movie will be LIKE OMG LIKE DIS IS DEH TOTALLY AWESOMENESSS MOVIE EVAR!1!!111 Only because of Lupin and Black...and Snape. All in one scene. *pees pants*

JenBluffheid
November 17th, 2002, 4:42 pm
Originally posted by Pizza In A Cup
-The basilisk was great...except Ron said (when they saw the snake skin) that it must be atleast 60 feet, but in the book's, didn't he say 30 feet?

It's most likely that he was exaggerating from his state of shock.

IndyPotter
November 17th, 2002, 7:27 pm
Originally posted by Anne


Acting
Harry - Much better. He manages some real emotions this time around, and benefits from not having to be confused all the time, I think.

Hermione - I actaully thought she was better in SS. :sorry: I don't think anything will ever top how well she delivered the "books and cleverness" line in SS. This time her performance just didn't seem as clean.

Draco - Same as Hermione. I thought he was better in the first film. His performance just didn't have the edge it had before.

Ron - Excellent as always. That boy has the most amazing facial expressions! He's a natural born comedian.

Snape - His characterization seemed very different to me. He didn't seem nearly as reserved and moody as he did in the first movie. This may be due to the fact that he was no longer under suspicion, but that irks me. Snape doesn't change just because our perception of him changes. He's still the same mean, nasty Snape he always was. :grumble:

Dumbledore - Same as before. Richard Harris just doesn't capture Dumbledore, in my opinion. His characterization is entirely wrong. :shrug:

Lockhart - Woohoo! Rock on Kenneth Branaugh!!

Lucius - Very well done! I couldn't have imagined a better Lucius!

Dobby - Much better than I expected. I hate Dobby, but I managed to enjoy his scenes in the film.

Myrtle - Oooh, I did not like Myrtle! They took far too much liberty with her character, IMO.



I agree with you with everything you said about the characters. I didn't like Mrytle much, her voice was too high and whiny for me.

Dumbledore, like I said before, Harris was not a good Dumbledore, he was just too...old. Dumbledore in the movies didn't seem funny, energetic, and magical how I believe the books portray him. Harris just made Dumbledore, a very old man.


I can't say the movie was amazing. I went in expecting to be wowed but it didn't happen. Yes it was funnier than the first, and more action but to me it lost its magical value. It had the little magical value but to me Hogwarts lost its charm.

I also think that everything was rushed through, everything was too fast paced I think.

I like SS better than CoS, CoS wasn't a great movie to me.

Kneazle
November 17th, 2002, 7:44 pm
About the ending: after reading CoS again, I don't think it is so very out of place. There isn't really a definitive closing scene in the book. Not like PS/SS or GoF, where they have those wonderful long conclusion sequences. The feast is sort of described and then you see them at Platform Nine and Three Quarters. Of course, they could have closed with the train or something of that sort.

JenBluffheid
November 17th, 2002, 9:00 pm
The one thing I have to say about the ending was that the PS/SS one was better. It had that feel about it. You felt tingly. But in CoS you didn't. I mean, Neville getting the house points ... That was an ending!

Cho Chang
November 17th, 2002, 9:40 pm
CoS is more like a MOVIE than an adaptation from a book! It's quite disappointing actually. Am I the only one like PS/SS better?

Now all I can do is to put my hope on PoA!! :'(

FRED ASTAIRE
November 17th, 2002, 9:49 pm
Originally posted by Cho Chang
CoS is more like a MOVIE than an adaptation from a book! It's quite disappointing actually. Am I the only one like PS/SS better?

Now all I can do is to put my hope on PoA!! :'(



I guess you did not read my post! I thought I was the only one who did not like the movie !

I thought it was too rushed! It did not flow for me, too choppy, if you know what I mean!!

I guess because I give it such a negitive review, no one read it. It not what I expected at all. There ARE parts that I do like, but they are very few indeed.

MagpieOnaga
November 17th, 2002, 10:05 pm
Kneazle -- I agree, there wasn't really a solid ending in the book, but don't you think they were a little silly to tack on that particular ending, rather than something a little bit more ambiguous? I like your idea of leaving it with a shot of the train speeding away....it kind of ties in with the story. The ending they created was just wierd and confusing....

bluemagic
November 17th, 2002, 10:49 pm
To those who've seen the movie and planning to see the movie again....

Please pay attention to the music used while "Harry holds Ginny's hand in the Chamber". I've read somewhere else that it's the same music as the Mirror of Scene in HPSS, when Harry sees James and Lily.

This is strange...Could this be also another forshadowing? For some fanfics, I've read Harry and Ginny as the young version of James and Lily. Though, we know Harry as described in the book that he's very similar to James only that he got Lily's eyes. If this is the case, Christopher Columbus is not only forshadowing the R/H but H/G as well. Hmmm....hmmm... H/G in the making?

JenBluffheid
November 17th, 2002, 10:51 pm
Oh, darn. Sick, sick, sick. Blah, blah, blah ... Ahem. Not a H/G or an R/H shipper.

FRED ASTAIRE
November 17th, 2002, 11:03 pm
Originally posted by JenBluffheid
The one thing I have to say about the ending was that the PS/SS one was better. It had that feel about it. You felt tingly. But in CoS you didn't. I mean, Neville getting the house points ... That was an ending!



Yeah, the ending was kind of...out there. My feelings on this is that; Hagrid is now cleared (spec. here) of the charges, of opening the Chamber and they are all happy for him? He can now become a (book 4) teacher !

Well (some) of the Slytherin were clapping, Crabbe was about to when Draco pulled him down to sit! That was funny!!!

bluemagic
November 17th, 2002, 11:31 pm
Originally posted by JenBluffheid
Oh, darn. Sick, sick, sick. Blah, blah, blah ... Ahem. Not a H/G or an R/H shipper.

Oh! that's a very friendly reply, JenBluffheid :) Thank you.

Anyway, But they are the same theme, aren't they? ;) .....The Chamber theme and the Mirror of Erised theme ;)

JenBluffheid
November 17th, 2002, 11:35 pm
Originally posted by bluemagic
Oh! that's a very friendly reply, JenBluffheid :) Thank you.

Anyway, But they are the same theme, aren't they? ;) .....The Chamber theme and the Mirror of Erised theme ;)

I know, I'm very friendly. :smile: Let's sing the Barney song!

Um ... yeah. I can't remember the music. I was too busy in a trance.

bluemagic
November 17th, 2002, 11:50 pm
Originally posted by JenBluffheid
I know, I'm very friendly. :smile: Let's sing the Barney song!

Um ... yeah. I can't remember the music. I was too busy in a trance.


I see... it shows :D

Too bad....I don't know the Barney song :( Can't sing along with you ;)

Kneazle
November 18th, 2002, 12:58 am
Magpie- It was silly to tack onto it (I still think that), I just don't blame them as much since they didn't have so much to work with. (I agree, Jen, that the ending for the first just has that feeling about it). They kind of exaggerated Hermione's return, and they included the cancelling of the exams. I guess they just wanted to make a big deal out of what they thought was the most touching part (I admit-- Hermione tearing up and all that clapping was something). I think it would be very nice if they had only had something after it, like Harry giving Ron his phone number as they exit Platform Nine and Three Quarters. But it needs something more to leave you with a sense of closure.

daniel4hp
November 18th, 2002, 1:08 am
One part that they changed a little and I thought that the book was better with was in Hagrid's cabin with Ron and the slugs. Here is a general idea of how the book went:

Harry: "Malfoy called Hermione a really foul name--I don't know what it means--but of course I could tell it was bad."

Ron: "It was bad. He called her a mudblood."

Hagrid: "He didn't!"

Harry: "What's a mudblood?"

Ron: "Its a really foul name for someone with muggle parents. You know, mudblood, dirty blood. Of course, the rest of us know it doesn't make any difference. Half of all wizards know are half-blood anyway."

Hagrid: "And they haven't invented a spell our Hermione can't do!"

Hermione, who was mostly uneffected all this time, not knowing what "mudblood meant, now smiles.

That is somewhat shortened, but it gets the idea accross. Here's how they did it in the movie (again, approximate.)

Harry: "Malfoy called Hermione a, well, I don't know what it means."

Hermione: tearfully "He called me a mudblood."

Harry: "What does that mean?"

Hermione: tearfully "Its a really foul name that has now place in modern civilization that refers to someone who doesn't have wizard blood, who has muggle parents, like me."

Hagrid: to Harry "There are some families, like the Malfoys, who think they are better because they have what is called *sarcasticly* "pure blood." Of course, the rest of us know it doesn't make any difference. All wizards how are at least halfblood."

Harry: without hesitation "Thats terrible!"

Ron: "Its sick!"

Hagrid: to Hermione "Now you listen to me. Don't you pay any attention to what Malfoy says. Don't you pay any attention at all. Besides, they haven't invented a spell you can't do."

Hermione smiles faintly, but is obviously still deeply hurt.


What I don't like about this difference is they take the scene and make it into a very emotional and exagerated (from the books) scene. In the books Hermione was not very effected but here she was deeply hurt. In the movie she has some of Hagrid's lines and apparently knows all about the term "mudblood." This comes up again in McGonagall's classroom where she again refers to the "mudblood" thing.

Cheshire
November 18th, 2002, 2:24 am
I like the idea that Hermione was hurt, because it shows how much of a big deal the term is. "Mudblood" is basically a racist term, so showing the severity of it teaches kids that judging others by their blood or heritage (is that spelled right?!?) is wrong. BUT I think Ron could have jioned in the covnersation like he did in the book. Some of you know how strongly I feel about how they gave all of Ron's knowledge to Hermione, and that's just another example. Ok, I'll shut up about that now :)

seashell323
November 18th, 2002, 6:08 am
I know I'm a little bit behind all the rest of you, but I just got back from seeing the movie. I'm so excited! I thought it was great. :clappy: I did like it better than the first one (even though I thought the first movie was good too). Here are just a few of my thoughts:

Lucius Malfoy and Gilderoy Lockhart: Jason Isaacs and Kenneth Branagh are such good actors, they were very close to stealing the show. Isaacs is just so good at being evil. And I'm always impressed by Branagh's acting abilities. Obviously Lockhart is totally different than the Shakespearean characters I'm used to seeing him play, but he pulled it off well and the character was hilarious (as he's supposed to be!).

Harry: I was very impressed by the way Daniel Radcliffe's acting has improved just between the first movie and this one. He was so much more natural, and he did great.

Ron and Hermione: I thought they were both about the same as they were in the last film. They're still good little actors. :D Ron is hilarious.

Snape: Alan Rickman was great as always, but he wasn't in it enough! I didn't like the fact that they didn't make him seem as menacing as in the first movie.

Okay, I could list many more of the characters, but overall I think it was an excellent film and the actors all did an amazing job. I loved Dobby! I just wanted to hug him when Lucius kicked him toward the end. I also thought Fawkes was perfectly done. And I agree with Anne's assessment...Tom Riddle is hot! :lol: Riddle was exactly how I imagined him. And like a lot of other people here, I also thought the ending was a little off. It would've been fine to just end it with Hagrid returning, but the big spectacle of his return seemed out of place.

I know this is probably me reading too much into things...but did anyone else think this might be another indicator that he will be the one to die in book 5? I feel like such a geek for even mentioning that. :o But the minute I heard Harry say "Hogwarts wouldn't be the same without you Hagrid" (or something to that effect), I couldn't help but think about him being the one to die in the next book. A little foreshadowing maybe?

Anyway, the Ron/Hermione thing at the end was very cute. :love: I'm sure I'm forgetting a lot of other things I wanted to comment on, but I'm tired for now. Overall, I'd probably give the movie a 9.5/10. I loved it.

Godfather Sirius Black
November 18th, 2002, 7:55 pm
Yep Im probably going for a second viewing soon.

Cheshire
November 18th, 2002, 9:04 pm
I'm going to see it again tomorrow night probably. YAY! That's all I had to say. Please, continue on with your lives.

Ezra Pippen
November 18th, 2002, 10:59 pm
I liked it, but the middle was a little bit rushed. Felt almost like some photographs were pulled from the book and flashed by. But overall it was definitely entertaining.

I have the feeling that I have seen to many snakes (used to capture non-poisonous ones all the time as a kid)-I have yet to see them get the motion quite right with computer generated snakes (in any movie), but the cobra was definitely better than the python in the first movie. The basilisk looked and moved like a combination of an alligator and a snake-interesting.

Lucius-I liked Isaacs portrayal mostly, but I do imagine Lucius as a little better at hiding his political views. The scene between Dumbledore and Lucius near the end was spot on and I wished that Isaacs was just a little bit more hidden in his motives for the rest of the movie. I think Isaacs definitely has the essence of Lucius down very well; he just needs to put on the mask that Lucius would wear when presenting himself as an upstanding member of the community.

Dobby was done surprisingly well-not exactly my image of him, but believable all the same.

I actually agree with Mataharitoad that they are removing a little too much of Harry's uncertainty, are making him a little too perfect in the movies. Harry is a brave boy in the books. But he does blunder, he does get scared, and he does say things that aren't always the nicest. One of the things that bothered me the most in the first movie was the way that Quirrel died because of Harry touching him. It was way more graphic than in the book-very Hollywoodesque. By that time in the book, Harry was nearly unconcious.
But overall, the movie was great and alot of fun.

MagpieOnaga
November 18th, 2002, 11:25 pm
I'll probably see it twice this weekend...I was a bit busy this past weekend, so I only saw it Friday. I wanted to see it for a second time while the crowds were still big, though!! :(

Anyway, I'm so excited. I don't really care about the mistakes and the bad pacing and whatever....it's worth it just for all of the parts that they got right.

JephReeta
November 18th, 2002, 11:42 pm
Dang! I haven't posted on here yet. I agree with some of you and not so much with others of you.

I was just happy to see the movie after waiting in line for 2 and a half hours!

I admit that the snake scene was slightly scary but the errol smacking into the window part made up for it.

I did not like the ending but it really wasn't that bad. I really liked the scene where they are sitting in the bathroom making the potion. It just has kind of a cozy surreal feel to it.

Moaning Myrtle was slightly out of whack but that could simply be the fact that I am used to the picture portrayed by the voice in the books on tape.

Anyways, I haven't read all of this thread and you've probably hashed everything I've said to death already so I'll stop rambling on.

daniel4hp
November 18th, 2002, 11:53 pm
I like the idea that Hermione was hurt, because it shows how much of a big deal the term is. "Mudblood" is basically a racist term, so showing the severity of it teaches kids that judging others by their blood or heritage (is that spelled right?!?) is wrong. BUT I think Ron could have jioned in the covnersation like he did in the book. Some of you know how strongly I feel about how they gave all of Ron's knowledge to Hermione, and that's just another example.
Well, they probably had good intentions, but I like how JK did it in the book and I see no reason for expanding on this scene so much. In the book Harry (once he found out), Ron, and Hermione all responded. I think JK did it well, and I don't see any reason to charge the scene with emotion thus playing off the feelings of small children. It wasn't that bad, but it could have been done better.

Fuchsia
November 19th, 2002, 4:36 am
I finally saw the movie this afternoon!
I was dead tired but I enjoyed it very much.

First off I LOVED Jason Isaacs as Lucius Malfoy. HOT! HOT! HOT! in the words of the Cure. I liked younger Malfoy a lot too.
They added in some nice stuff with him. "I didn't know you knew how to read.", taking the Christmas present.
It was cute that they introduced Papa Malfoy in the same way they introduced baby Malfoy last time. I got a giggle out of it.
Great great acting. He was spot on.

Branagh was good as Lockhart and there were some priceless scenes.

There wasn't enough of Snape!!! But what we got was really good.
The dueling club was excellent. His acting in that....I'm so glad they got Rickman. Another actor would have been drowned and then covered up with rocks but he still managed to shine through with very little screentime.

Harry, Ron and Hermione were all good. Especially Harry.

One improvement from last time was that the soundtrack did not overpower the scenes. It took me right out of the movie in SS.

They could have shown how miserable Harry was a little more.
They didn't really have the other students blame him except for the one time when he leave the library.

I got teary eyed at the end when everyone was hugging Hagrid.
I wonder what scene will make me cry in POA?

Also I was excited to see Robert Hardy as Fudge. I didn't know that they had casted him! Very cool.

I'll think of more points later. I'm going to see the movie again on the 25th.

pasalita
November 19th, 2002, 5:14 am
One critique about the film: I think Columbus banked too much on the fact that most of the audience had already read the book. I took my boyfriend, and he had a hard time seeing the validity in the scene transitions and some of the dialogue. It was almost like an insider movie for us Harry Potter freaks. Good for us, but it could potentially put off some people.

Fuchsia
November 19th, 2002, 7:03 am
I'm seeing the movie with some HP virgins on the 25th. I'll see if they can understand everything.
Harry Knowles from aintitcool.com has never read the books but liked the films. But he had some nitpicks which are all explained in the books.
Still, I think it is unavoidable.
For me, I was practically crying "Hurry up already, I know this!"

Did anyone else think of COS forums when Harry is in the Chamber?
When they cut to the scene picture in the cos graphic I had to laugh.

pasalita
November 19th, 2002, 4:02 pm
Originally posted by Fuchsia
Did anyone else think of COS forums when Harry is in the Chamber?
When they cut to the scene picture in the cos graphic I had to laugh.

Yup! I thought of the forums as well! I thought, "Ah! NOW it makes sense!"

Godfather Sirius Black
November 19th, 2002, 7:44 pm
Yeh, when I saw the eye and Harry picture (from the logo) i though hey its the pic from the forums.

Alison
November 19th, 2002, 8:49 pm
Well... I must say I never in my life had so much fun watching a movie. I went in the middle of the night, so the theatre wan't too full, and everyone heard me laughing out loud at the parts I found really funny, which was almost the whole thing.

The part I found most disappointing was when Harry first met Riddle in the chamber. That was one of my favourite moments from the entire series. Riddle has such amazing lines. ("We're going to talk now.") Oh, I love that part. But they really rushed through it in the movie. I guess they rushed through everything, but that was the climax!

Anyway, I had so much fun anyway. The Duelling club scene was SO funny.

Cheshire
November 19th, 2002, 9:22 pm
I was just wondering, cuz maybe it's just me, but they didn't show Ron and Hermione fighting very much, did they? I mean, in the first movie there's the train scene, and the part where Ron shouts "I know what it means!" but other than that they hardly fight. Not like in the books. And in this one it's even less. I guess it isn't important plot-wise, but still. It shows the whole opposites attract thing (R/H for life!!!!) and it also shows Ron's...uh, temper. I dunno, that's just something I noticed. Nothing big that interferes with the movie, but...

She's Crafty
November 19th, 2002, 9:23 pm
***jumps around madly***

I LOVED IT, I LOVED IT, I LOVED IT!


Chamber of Secrets of course! ;-)


It truly is a marvellous film, not quite perfect, but still very, very good. The special affects in particular are light years ahead of PS/SS - the Basilisk in especially. Anyway, the stuff i liked:



Daniel Radcliffe. Vastly improved, i especially liked the scene in Flourish and Blotts with Lucius Malfoy when they are discussing Voldemort...it truly was a wonderful piece of acting. Also, the encounter with Tom Riddle in the Chamber was also brilliant.


Kenneth Branagh. He made me laugh just by coming into a scene with his narcissitic expression. I actually wished Lockhart had been in it more!


Rupert Grint. His expression during the spiders scene. That is all.


Snape. Sadly, hardly in it, but still great at being so grrr, evil.


Tom Riddle. Christian Coulson is one hell of an actor, he was truly more fearsome than the CGI Voldemort face in PS/SS. You can't beat live humans sometimes...


But having said that, i cannot say enough how truly awesome the SFX were. Dobby was scarily life-like, the spiders freaky-deaky and the Basilisk...just brilliant. And the race for the Snitch between Harry and Malfoy made me dizzy - in a good way.


Dobby isn't Jar-Jar. You actually feel so very sorry for Dobby, most people just wanted J.J. to die, preferrably in a lot of pain.


The wizards duel. Wheee!


Lucius Malfoy. No wonder Jason Isaacs plays villians all the time, he's excellent at it. And those eyes...


Sean Biggerstaff. Because it's Sean Biggerstaff! ;-)



Things i didn't like.


Tom Felton. Pretty dodgy performance i'm afraid, still, you gotta love that sneer! And the line he says to Goyle/Harry when he explains why he's wearing glasses 'for reading' *pause* 'I didn't know you could read'.


Warwick Davis being completely wasted. Give him some lines already!


And that's pretty much it.


So what are you waiting for? Go see it! :-)

Sinistra
November 19th, 2002, 10:18 pm
Yesterday was my second time.

The ending was really weak, but they had to do something. I also thought about the foreshadowing about who was to die in book 5, and hoped it wasn't Hagrid, though felt it might be.

After seeing Malfoy elder and fil, I now wonder if Draco is at all reedeemable. Lucius was way too wonderful. And that Avada at the end! What arrogance, trying to kill Harry in the middle of Hogwarts. One wonders if the curse would have worked, considering the defenses of Hogwarts. Moody did it to a spider, but I still wonder........

Lockheart was really wonderful. I watched the pictures etc. more, and they are also fun. He sure posed and preened well. I did miss the extra scenes, but they did what they could in the time available.

I did want more at Privet Drive, but I thoght the scene with the pudding was better than the book. Though I wanted more of how the Dursleys treat Harry. And I loved Vernon falling out of the window. He deserved it, for sure.

Moaning Myrtle was very good, they didn't scrimp on her much. Dobby was also great. Definitely not cute. The chamber was OK, and Fawkes still looked animatronic, he was the weakest non-corporeal character, IMHO. I did miss the phoenix song, but that would have taken more time, and I thought that chamber scene was long, anyhow.

I am wondering if Draco is a klepto or something, he takes a page out of the book at Flourish and Blotts and steals the gift in the Slytherin common room. Did anyone else notice their common room seems to have windows that open to the underside of the lake--ie underwater? That's an interesting and novel touch.

Next time I go I will pay better attention to the backgrounds. I did see a closed cabinet in Dumbledore's office which could hold the pensieve. Remember he said the cabinet was not fully closed. And the Burrow looked perfect. I want to live there.

symplet
November 20th, 2002, 12:11 am
Originally posted by Sinistra
I am wondering if Draco is a klepto or something, he takes a page out of the book at Flourish and Blotts and steals the gift in the Slytherin common room.
Not really, considering that a klepto steals without noticing he is doing it. I think Draco knewvery much what he was doing!

hermownninny
November 20th, 2002, 3:47 am
I did not like about the movie that they change the characteristics of the three of them.

-Harry is portraited like a kind of superhero when he is not. In the book, he is 12 years old, and like everyone at that age, he is scared.

-Hermione crying, when in the book, she never cries about "mudblood" because the word does not have a meaning for her.

-I also did not like that Ron screams all the time.

But it was a good movie...I would have liked to see more Quidditch.....Well, things I really liked....

_Gilderoy Lockhart...I think Keneth is perfect for the role..he was perfect, they should have added more scenes with him.

-the action was really good...running from Spiders...running from Basilik

3 Magic Beans
November 20th, 2002, 8:40 pm
Well, I saw CoS the other day and overall, it was a great movie, much better than PS.

The acting was very good. Rupert Grint has the most amazing facial expressions! He's the perfect Ron, in my opinion. The first time I saw a picture of Lucius Malfoy I was sceptical but...Wow. He was so perfectly evil. Richard Harris was good but he just isn't how I imagined Dumbledore in the least. I found Myrtle's voice sketchy at best but Dobby was surprisingly good. All the actors did exceptionally well.

-I liked the Dursley sequence and the Burrow was amazing. It seemed so cozy and quirky. I just wish there was more time spent there. And more Fred and George.

-Those Nimbus 2001s were very sleek and sharp. I liked them. :)

-I was very impressed with the scene where Harry goes into Tom's diary. It was nice use of colour (or should I say lack thereof?).

-The de-gnoming and Valentine's Day were scenes that were sorely missed.

Oh yeah, I was talking to my friend who hasn't read the books and she was very confused about the significance of Lucius giving Dobby a sock. So, I guess that wasn't set up very well.

Anyways, I thought it was great and very entertaning.

Cheshire
November 20th, 2002, 8:46 pm
Saw the movie for the second time last nite, and I wanna confirm what some people are saying, Lucius DOES say avada at the end. No doubt about it.
Ok, I'm sorry, but moaning Myrtle gave me chills!! I swear her voice...it's so creepy!!!! My friend made fun of me cuz she thought it was cool and I was sitting in the theatre practically shivering from the **** voice.
Oh, and I thought Draco seemed like a bit of a klepto too! Ok, I know thats not the right word, cuz, like hermowninny pointed out, klepto's don't know waht they're doing, but...well you know what I mean! I loved how they added that in tho. Thought it was neato-freato.

Daily Propheter
November 20th, 2002, 10:16 pm
The creepy parts were the best!!! Mind you I was laughuing like crazy at Chesh and a couple others (like the whole Theatre maybe) at their reactions, but that's not the point!! I love Moaning Myrtle's voice!! It wasn't creepy, it was wicked!! The Mandrake's were cool too, though the whole theatre (save me) was blocking their ears!! (I was laughing again!! Call me crazy, cuz I am...) And the snake, when it jumped out of the water, that creeped me out!!! I loved it!! When the VHS comes out, I'm gonna play the spider scene again...and again...and again...

Best Line of the movie: Draco's casual "I didn't know you could read."
Mind, I'm probably just a TAD biased about that, but...yeah!!

daniel4hp
November 21st, 2002, 1:14 am
-Hermione crying, when in the book, she never cries about "mudblood" because the word does not have a meaning for her.
Thats exactly how I felt. I didn't see any reason to have her cry, except that on the whole they gave Hermione more lines that she should have had (based on the book) and seemed to play up the "mudblood" scene more than the books did...

Kneazle
November 21st, 2002, 2:46 am
Originally posted by daniel4hp
Thats exactly how I felt. I didn't see any reason to have her cry, except that on the whole they gave Hermione more lines that she should have had (based on the book) and seemed to play up the "mudblood" scene more than the books did...
That they did. I was a tad annoyed by the tears and stolen lines, but, overall, I thought that Hermione was portrayed very nicely. It is difficult to show Hermione's strength, intelligence, and sensitivity onscreen-- what's apparent in the books isn't easily translated into the film.

JenBluffheid
November 21st, 2002, 8:58 pm
Originally posted by bluemagic
I see... it shows :D

Too bad....I don't know the Barney song :( Can't sing along with you ;)

Awww ... Just hum he Harry Potter theme, then. (In other words, I don't know the Barney song either.) ;)

Cheshire
November 21st, 2002, 10:30 pm
DP was really mean to me in the theatre! She laughed! But it wasn't so bad as our other friend who was literally LIVID with terror during the spider scene (eyes wide open, frozen, not answering anyone, mouth hanging, the whole nine yards). Ahhh good times, good times. :)

hedwigs_keeper
November 22nd, 2002, 7:00 am
I saw the movie on Monday and absolutely loved it! I'm actually going again on Saturday. :clappy: There was only one part I could do without in the whole thing. I know that the slug spell backfiring on Ron was in the book, but at least in the book I couldn't SEE him barfing slugs. Ugh! Made me a tad bit queasy... And I must say that the spider scene was very well done, and gave me creepy crawlies that lasted until after the movie was over!
I did get a bit weepy in the end because I kept looking at Dumbledore and thinking that he won't be in any more of the movies. Richard Harris was a wonderful, talented actor and will definately be missed. "To the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure." - Albus Dumbledore

hermownninny
November 22nd, 2002, 8:58 am
yes, Richard Harris will be missed...........:'(

Justin Etre
November 22nd, 2002, 12:29 pm
no one will ever replace him, he WAS dumbledore

Cheshire
November 22nd, 2002, 8:27 pm
If you listen while wathing the movie, in one scene, Richard Harris really sounds sick. I believe it's the scene where he's telling Harry about Fawkes. He breathes deeply and his voice is slightly raspy. Oh this is making me too sad! :(

Springy
November 22nd, 2002, 10:47 pm
I just watched it today. WOW, WHAT A MOVIE. I agree Cheshire, he did song a bit raspy in the fawkes scene. It was like he was struggling for breath. He will be deeply missed.

Anyway, I think that this movie rocked. I loved the spider scene. I love the way Ron was squeaking away trying to tell Harry that there were spiders everywhere. The children acting was brilliant, especially Dan Radcliffe. He really pulled it off this time around.

The only thing I hate about this movie is that it felt, well rushed. Some bits was not really developed, like the dueling scene. How the earth was Harry and Draco able to perform the spell without being told how to, especially when Draco pulled out the snake.

Overall, this movie gets a 8 out of 10 from me. Can't wait for Potter Year 3, PoA!!!

Astaldo
November 22nd, 2002, 11:02 pm
At the end of the credits it only shows Lockhart in a book cover with a straight jacket on, wasent that funny.

Cheshire
November 23rd, 2002, 1:24 am
Yeah I saw that too. My friend and I sat there waiting, and when we saw that, we're like "That's IT?!" It's him on the cover of his new book "Who Am I?" and there's a picture of him in a straight jacket.
I really can't wait for PoA, it's gonna be amazing! But the thing is, I'm 15 now, in 10th grade, and by the time it's out, I'll have graduated! (After 11th grade here in Quebec!) I can think of this 2 ways. 1) YAY! Graduating soon! or 2) BOO! Long time for PoA...

xicanti
November 23rd, 2002, 11:49 pm
I just saw it today.

Overall, I thought the first one was better, but CoS was still good. The beginning, though, up until Nearly Headless Nick was petrified, seemed to me to be directed more at people who had read the book. A lot of the little connectors that JKR used to move from scene to scene weren't present in the film, and I think it made it seem a little fragmented from my point of view.

I was incredibly happy with the casting. The only thing that annoyed me was that Kenneth Branaugh wasn't on screen enough to really show off his skills. He made a great Lockhart, but it would've been good to see him more than five or six short times throughout the movie. Jason Issacs... perfect. Absolutely perfect.

Rupert Grint was fantastic, as usual. I loved his work in the spider scene; he made me go all squeamish, and I have no issues whatsoever with spiders!

Was that a different Fang from in the first one? It looked like a different Fang.

Dobby was a different colour that I've envisioned him, (for some reason, he's blue to my mind's eye), but I thought he was very well done. I didn't find him annoying at all.

Overall... three stars. Might increase as I watch it a few more times.

go_anna40
November 24th, 2002, 4:00 am
i'm still WAITING!!
aggrrrrhhh!!!
i really can't wait, i saw the Oprah special yesterday, and i'm really hyped up.
i can't wait to see Jason Issacs...the coolest guy in the movie- i think he has done a really good job with Luicius Malfoy.

pasalita
November 24th, 2002, 9:23 pm
Is it a bad thing to see the movie again, even when one has already seen it twice on opening day?

daniel4hp
November 24th, 2002, 9:48 pm
I'm not sure I quite get you... is it bad to see the movie again? I don't understand why the fact that many people have seen it twice on the opening day would effect that... maybe I am thick but could you explain what you meant?

MagpieOnaga
November 25th, 2002, 1:20 am
I think she's just joking....

You saw it twice on opening day? Lucky.....I was scarcely able to see it once. Now, I can't find anyone to see it with me a second time! I'll have to resort to pretending that I haven't seen it yet.....


I know my family and friends have been making fun of me for wanting to see it again. :p But hey, t's not wierd to see any movie twice, let alone the movie you've been excited about the whole year!

owl post 1992
November 25th, 2002, 1:25 am
Well the first soundtrack was better, cos it helped the film cast a bit more magical spirit, the bit i loved and hated most was the Spider scene it was brilliantly done with Rupert's fear matching my own and Dan was funny as he wouldn't stop talking to Aragog, it was increditably speeded up and just watching the film I never quite understood Ginny. Snape, Lucius and Draco were all way too cuddly for me and Richard did sound very frail and the Lockhart scene really wasn't worth it the Valentines Day would have been better placed

Moe
November 25th, 2002, 1:31 am
The film is released here on thrusday (28th), i am going to see it friday night after work, or saturday some time...can't wait....

thatks for all the goss guys, you haven't given to much away, after all we have all read the book right?...lol

Cheers;
Moe

daniel4hp
November 25th, 2002, 1:43 am
Well the first soundtrack was better...
I actually liked the second soundtrack a little better... I love the parts with Fawkes...

Alorra Spinnet
November 25th, 2002, 10:04 pm
I really like Fawkes' theme too. :)
I've been to see 4 times now. (and counting) ;)

Moe
November 25th, 2002, 11:39 pm
Alorra Spinnet said: I've been to see 4 times now. (and counting)

If Alorra Spinnet has seen it four time now it must be good...lol

daniel4hp
November 26th, 2002, 1:32 am
I've been to see it three times, but I'm seeing it again on Friday or Saturday. This is more than the first one, which I only saw 4 times total, and no more than three times in November (I can't remember exactly when I saw it). Now it will be 4 times in November and probably at least 5 times total. I feel a little guilty about seeing it so many times, as though I shouldn't be...

revz
November 27th, 2002, 2:29 am
hmmm.... just curious...

in the book... it was fawkes who kept the basilisk busy... and Harry was only able to kill it with sheer luck....

In the movie... fawkes only blinds the basilisk and then flies away... leaving Harry to be all macho and fight the basilisk.... a 13 year old boy against one of the most deadly creatures in their world... hmmm... there's something wrong there... even if Harry is supposed to be very brave....

in the book, fawkes cries because harry is wounded.... his tears heal harry then tom had to drive him away with harry's wand.....

in the movie.... the director opted for more drama.... with fawkes coming in to save the day.... after harry disposes of tom....

:devil:

Daily Propheter
November 27th, 2002, 2:43 am
DP was really mean to me in the theatre! She laughed! But it wasn't so bad as our other friend who was literally LIVID with terror during the spider scene (eyes wide open, frozen, not answering anyone, mouth hanging, the whole nine yards). Ahhh good times, good times.

Hahaha, yeah...

Cheshire
November 27th, 2002, 10:38 pm
Memoriiiiiiiiiiies!
Ok, I'm gonna stop now. Really I am!
Revs, I think they did that to make Harry the hero and all that. I think they should've stuck to the book but oooh well!

daniel4hp
November 28th, 2002, 1:39 am
Revs, I think they did that to make Harry the hero and all that.
Yeah, they went for the more dramatic and heroic way of doing it...

You-Know-Who
November 28th, 2002, 9:46 pm
The film was ok, way better then the first one though.

Don't get me wrong the acting was superb especially by Kenneth Branaugh and the kids (although the "scared" face of Ron bothered me a lot). The CGI was also nice done, Quidditch was fast paced for once, Dobby looked good enough, Basilisk was ok.

Aragog looked horrible, IMO and I've no idea why. I wasn't scared by it, the cgi spiders were again ok. (my sister was freaked out though, especially when a spider grabbed Ron).

The only thing I loved about the film was the music, John Williams & William Ross did a superb job especially the Fawkes Theme.

Now for the story.

Simply horrible, it's rushed and it's a horrible book adaptation. Now I uderstand why some scenes were forced to be deleted (e.g Deathday Party, Valentine's day, fight between Lucius and Arthur, Ron's Room :grumble: ) but giving lines to the wrong characters, oh boy that pissed me off.

The Basilisk fight was strange, to say at least. Sad that Tom Riddle was killed before Harry got healed. They also added extra stuff that was not needed, in my opinion.

The ending was ok, to much focus on Hagrid though, although I liked the fore shadowing of the third film and the R/H scene was nice.

Now the thing that irked me a lot:

Underage wizards aren't allowed to do magic outside of school and no matter where (including Diagon alley) so why did Hermione uses magic to repair Harry's glasses?! That's against the law!

WTF, since when does Hermione not follow rules and laws? (Harry also never gotten that letter)

daniel4hp
November 29th, 2002, 1:54 am
I think Hermione repairs Harry's glasses in the book, as well. Good points, though, You-Know-Who.

Alorra Spinnet
November 29th, 2002, 1:01 pm
Originally posted by daniel4hp
I think Hermione repairs Harry's glasses in the book, as well. Good points, though, You-Know-Who.
Nope, in the book it was Mr. Weasley who repaired them.
:)
Maybe there is just so much magic going on in and around Diagon Alley that a simple reparo charm isn't going to cause a big stir even if it is cast by an underage witch/wizard. poke:

daniel4hp
November 29th, 2002, 3:59 pm
That may be, but I think it was more just for the visual effects. They totally added her doing it in the first movie, which I didn't think was neccessary, so I think they just thought it would look better... :shrug:

I was wondering why they didn't have the fight between Mr. Weasly and Mr. Malfoy. It would have looked great on camara... do you think they cut it to get the movie in the right amount of time, or do you think there was another reason?

You-Know-Who
November 29th, 2002, 5:33 pm
Originally posted by daniel4hp
I was wondering why they didn't have the fight between Mr. Weasly and Mr. Malfoy. It would have looked great on camara... do you think they cut it to get the movie in the right amount of time, or do you think there was another reason?

Well in my opinion they had time, that's for sure. So for example during Quidditch, the chase between Draco and Harry cut that down and add the fight.

However seeing adult fight isn't a "good" thing for kids :p ;)

daniel4hp
November 29th, 2002, 7:04 pm
They could also have reduced the flying car scene and the spider scene, both of which went far beyond the book. Perhaps the PG rating of "Scary Moments, Some Creature Violence, and Mild Language" would become a PG-13 rating with "Scary Moments, Violence, and Mild Languages." I think they really wanted to keep the PG rating, and they might have felt this could push it over the edge, since as you said, many people would feel that seeing adults fighting would be bad for kids... personally, I wish it had gotten PG-13... it would be taken more seriously.

JenBluffheid
November 29th, 2002, 7:25 pm
Originally posted by daniel4hp
personally, I wish it had gotten PG-13... it would be taken more seriously.

I agree completely even though I don't understand what PG-13 is for the U.K. Most likely the new 12A rating? If so, that's what I hope the next film will be.

I noticed that they were trying to stop it being too scary for young children, except this just made the film look pressurised. If they could just budge up the rating, they would have more freedom with special effects, scary scenes, and mild language.

That's my tuppence.

Oh, and I seen it again on Saturday (I'm late, I know, but I have a busy schedule for orchestra), and there was only one flaw which I stated last time: it needs credits at the beginning. That's how it feels as though it's rushed -- there's no credits. When I say credits, I don't mean the Art Directors or the Key Grips (never understood what that actually means. It's just been stuck in my mind); I mean the main cast. If they could just fit that in after the bit where Harry's in the car and then there's the helicopter shot of Surrey, that would even the pace a great deal.

Everything else, however, for me, was perfect.

You-Know-Who
November 29th, 2002, 8:37 pm
Originally posted by daniel4hp
They could also have reduced the flying car scene and the spider scene, both of which went far beyond the book. I wish it had gotten PG-13... it would be taken more seriously.

Exactly, I agree. Hopefully the next one will be PG-13, because it could ruin (and probably will) if it isn't.

Originally posted by JenBluffheid
IWhen I say credits, I don't mean the Art Directors or the Key Grips (never understood what that actually means. It's just been stuck in my mind); I mean the main cast. If they could just fit that in after the bit where Harry's in the car and then there's the helicopter shot of Surrey, that would even the pace a great deal.

Perhaps, but not all films do the credits at the beginning. Both Lord of the Rings and Star Wars doesn't do that. It's better IMO. Although it should have some narration in the beginning, a short introduction about Harry Potter (you know what happens in every book since the 2nd one) that he's a wizard, the usual stuff.

That would pace the story a great deal.

daniel4hp
November 29th, 2002, 10:32 pm
Most films don't do the credits in the beginning, but some do, and yes, I think it might be good to do that here. It would make the end credits not go on for quite so long, at least...

revz
November 30th, 2002, 2:49 am
I won't be expecting a pg thirteen in the next film... since we're expecting themes of murder etc. Besides, there are werewolves, hippogriffs and other beasties making their first appearances...

but sticking to the topic... I was just wondering... the directer was trying to make it his goal to make the second movie shorter than the first... and he succeeded... actually cutting the movie short by 15 minutes.... 15 minutes shorter than the first...

why is it then that he felt the need to extend some scenes like the spider chase... which looks like something nicked from another "spider" movie.... which were not really that important in the books....

I wasn't really disappointed with the cg..... except that fawkes looks just like an eagle dyed gold and red.... they could've just followed the description in the books....

Springy
November 30th, 2002, 1:18 pm
They made the spider scene, the car scene longer because they wanted to use the special effects. They wanted people to be scared for the children and at the same time, feel excited and involved in the movie. By the car scene, the movie watchers can scream, "Don't die Harry", or "Watch it, there something coming behind you". It just make it much more exciting!!!!

You-Know-Who
November 30th, 2002, 3:20 pm
Originally posted by Springy

By the car scene, the movie watchers can scream, "Don't die Harry", or "Watch it, there something coming behind you". It just make it much more exciting!!!!

Hmmm, if they cut down the car scene, added the Lucius & Arthur fight that would have been exciting.

Am I the only one here who thinks that the film was dragging on after they arrived at Hogwarts?

revz
November 30th, 2002, 4:45 pm
There are other parts in the movies that are as exciting as those dragging parts mentioned..... and they got left out anyway....

daniel4hp
November 30th, 2002, 5:10 pm
The second movie is 15 minutes shorter than the first? Why the heck did they do that? They could easily have used those 15 minutes in a multitude of scenes that got cut short or weren't emphesized enough. I thought the movie was a bit rushed--I didn't know that they could have added 15 minutes and still have had it be the same length as the first!

revz
November 30th, 2002, 5:20 pm
hmm... the director stated that the first movie was criticized for being too long... so he made it a point to make the 2nd movie shorter than the first.... BIG MISTAKE...

daniel4hp
November 30th, 2002, 5:26 pm
Definitely a big mistake. Yeah, the first one was real long, but it became I think the 2nd highest grossing film of all time, so it seems that people were willing to sit through it. This ones long as well, and its getting a little criticism for it too, so you might as well add those 15 minutes...

revz
November 30th, 2002, 5:39 pm
Yeah... well... let's see about the third film... since the director's new.... I just don't like the nasty rumor that the next films are just gonna be imax movies....

at the very least... complaint about the length of COS is less than the disappointment of legions of fans about how Fawkes appeared in the movie.... I hearing-and reading- tons of complaints....

daniel4hp
November 30th, 2002, 5:42 pm
Imax movies? Purely a rumour, they wouldn't do that (they better not, there wouldn't be a place to show it where I live...). I still don't trust the new director, though. I'm afraid he's gonna butcher the movie...

I didn't mind Fawkes; I thought he was fine...

go_anna40
December 1st, 2002, 12:28 am
i'm gonna see it in 2-3 hours!! woo hoo!!!

i've seen a few pics of Fawkes, i thought it would be much more larger and majestic