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Sabrina
November 15th, 2002, 4:26 am
Do u beleive in ghosts ne 1?i do.i`ve had personal ghost experiences my self-every 1 has some won`t admit it it`s like muggles;they`ll go 2 ne lenght to ignore magic.

lanifiel
November 15th, 2002, 9:56 am
Hmmm ghosts as in people that are dead? Or ghosts that are presences we cant explain? I'm a little sceptical of these things, I'm not religious but I do like to think that there is something else to go to after we die and we shouldnt want or need to hang around, be it reincarnation (see your other post) or a different plain of existence...

Fuchsia
November 15th, 2002, 10:10 am
Has anyone else noticed that here in the States all ghost citings are of Colonial times?
UK get middle-ages and we're stuck with the boring Colonial people.
Why not a hippie drug-using 70's ghost who steals doritos?

Tinkie
November 15th, 2002, 11:40 am
hmmm i dont want to sound un-imaginative, but i dont think i have seen a ghost. sure the spirits of the people that have died are around us, but i dont know if they take form and appear in front of other people

Morgoth
November 15th, 2002, 11:45 am
I've seen plenty of ghosts. They're called civil servants and we all get in at 7am looking like we've just died. ;D

raeredeyes
November 15th, 2002, 2:07 pm
hmm...Not sure.

i get scared by the idea of them to some extent, but i dont know if i totally believe that there are actual ghosts.

Sabrina
November 15th, 2002, 4:25 pm
well most ghosts r supposed 2 be mean but i think they r just at they`re old houses 2 protect them i guess......................:ghost:

IndyPotter
November 16th, 2002, 5:49 am
Actually, they are not supposed to be mean. They are just unsettled and rarely do ghosts actually make physical contact with another.


They usually had a goal and died while achieving that goal. I don't necessarily think they are there to protect them, just a place that meant something to the ghost.

Thayet
November 16th, 2002, 7:18 pm
Seriously, I believe in ghosts. I've had some experiences, which I may share one day, I've shared only with close friends, and I know of other experiences. All I shall say for now is I know spiritual beings of some kind, including the form of ghost, exist.

Peter
November 17th, 2002, 5:47 pm
I dont.
No need to explain.

Emma
November 19th, 2002, 2:12 am
I do believe, but, perfer to call them spirits. and souls.

Nydia
November 21st, 2002, 10:21 pm
I've seen ghosts twice, felt the presence of what I describe as a "malevolent spirit" at least once, and seen or felt the "fetch" of a live person a couple of times. I also had one deliberate communication with a recently deceased person, the morning of his funeral.

I don't know that I can fully articulate my personal differentiation between these different terms. I only know that I use them.

The ghosts I've seen: one was an old man who had died a few weeks before I saw him. I saw his ghost in the lobby of the apartment building where he had lived and where I occasionally worked security. I was just beginning my shift and had completed my sweep of the building prior to taking over the desk from the 2d shift person. As I returned to the lobby, I saw a little old man scurrying from the opposite stairwell towards the front door of the building (which I couldn't see from my vantage point). I never heard the door open, but the little old man was gone when I got fully into the lobby. I asked the 2d shifter who had just walked through the lobby. He said no one. I said, No, I saw an old man just now, and described him. He said I had just described Mr. Robinson, who had died several weeks prior.

The second ghost I actually saw was that of my high priest a couple years after his death. It was really only a vague shadow, but I knew by the shape and a few other things that it was him.

He was also the one I communicated with the morning of his funeral. He had died after being hospitalized for several days on life support, and didn't have a chance to convey any "last wishes" or messages. The morning of his funeral, the priestess who was conducting the funeral (not his wife, she was in no condition to do so, understandably) hypnotized me and sent me looking for Rhob's spirit. I found him in a kiva (before that time, I didn't even know what a kiva was) and talked with him, and was able to pass on a few messages. I'm not usually able to do stuff like this, and it wasn't the priestess making suggestions, either. I was quite aware of what she was saying, but also in an altered state. Basically, it was like I had astrally projected.

I may post more about my experiences later, but right now, I have to sign off.

Crashcatto
November 21st, 2002, 11:14 pm
:rotfl: Fuschia Why don't we see hippie ghosts?

For me personally, it's "I'll see it to believe it" although, the idea of ghosts is not ludicrus to me. It might be because I've seen too many Unsolved Mysteries and Fear episodes, but it does seem feasible.

I remember this one Fear episode that actually scared me. You would figure that MTV might be staging these people, and it had seemed kind of fake until this one episode where the entire group quit because they were so scared. I saw doors move and stuff. If it was staged they did a darn good job of it.

triki1988
November 23rd, 2002, 5:32 pm
I've seen them, felt them, etc.
I used to live in quite an interesting house in Venezuela (yup! the good ol' times) for about 6 years and every single night, while playing Barbie I'd see a man, out of the corner of my eye, standing on my door frame . I'd think that was my dad and I would say "PAPII!!" but as soon as I would run towards it or stand up, the man would vanish. I would think nothing of it, i mean, come on, I was what? 5 - 6..ish? Some other stuff happened as I got older, but I never found an answer to it.
One day, after I had moved to the US I was talking to my mum and she told me the whole story of the ghost. It would ALWAYS go to my room (don't ask) for some reason, it used to scare our maids, and hide stuff we needed. One day, it tried to scare my mom when she was at the laundry room folding some shirts. When she turned around, she saw it coming at her with an evil expression. My mum shut her eyes closed and started yelling at it things like: "IF YOU'RE TRYING TO PROTECT US, - GREAT! IF NOT..LEAVE!!", "LEAVE US ALONE ALREADY!" and some other stuff I can't say here and that's when it clicked! One of the things I saw one night (I couldn't sleep, I had to go to school the next day) the outline of a man, it was so clear, runnin across the hall and disapearing into thin air; it had been the ghost. The man on my doorframe; the ghost. The one who rang the bell whenever someone was taking a shower; the ghost.

I've also got some other stories that are more spine-tingling but I'm lazy today. I'll just say that in the house that I'm currently living it, some funky stuff has been happening to me; like something pushing me as I go to the kitchen while home alone and when I turn around there's nothing behind me.

WhiteSlash
December 24th, 2002, 7:42 pm
I think ghosts are more like angel sprits. When I was little I would think that my Grandpa(who I've never met because he died), my great-grandma, and G-d(sorry I can't write G-d, Religon thing) would watch over me when I was sleeping and Iwas able to hear them. Really stupid, but that's me. Besides, we are people afried of music and stuff. I have dreams and they come true, so maybe sprits go in your dreams to show you something that you're going to do. Besides, look at the boat in Long Beach.

WhiteSlash
December 24th, 2002, 7:43 pm
*sorry I ment to say magic in there-not music. Hehe

Inkwolf
December 25th, 2002, 12:02 am
Originally posted by Fuchsia
Has anyone else noticed that here in the States all ghost citings are of Colonial times?

I thought they were all Civil War ghosts in the US? :p

I've never seen any ghosts*, but I've heard too many stories from people I trust who have to be able to deny their existence.

(*Except maybe once, when my dead dog came to me in a really, REALLY vivid dream. She just stood and stared at me, the way she used to when she wanted me to wake up. Yes, THAT dog could wake me up just by staring. It was almost creepy. ;D)

HarryPottersfan
December 25th, 2002, 12:09 am
I've never seen a ghost or ghosts, but some of the stories I've read are really freaky and its hard not to believe some of them...

MioneandRon4ever
December 29th, 2002, 12:36 am
I do believe, I SEE DEAD PEOPLE :rotfl: sorry I had to do that :sorry:

But I do believe, I have never been fortunate enough to see them but I always feel them.

I can walk into a house or a room and I know if ghost are there or not, of course others usually interrupt people from feeling ghosts presence.

I hardly feel them when i'm stressed or with others, although I get a cold feeling when going in to rooms and I just know, but I ignore it if i'm with others.

I usually feel the presence, like now its nearly one am i'm sitting on my own lost in typing and I know someone is behind me but I know if I look no one will be there.

This freaks most people out but in my job its a usual presence.

I'm a nurse, I often witness patients dying and stay with them until they die, I then know they are there for a little while and some stay and some don't.

I of course can not explain why that is, I cannot differ between spirits I don't know their age sex or anything else, just that they are there.

I am also very good at interpreting people and I use my intuition alot. this maybe helps me feel what others cannot or refuse to feel.

As I said when I am busy like in the day on the wards I do not notice it, it is on night shifts when I am relaxed and more open.

Many people have reasoned that maybe it is my imagination, but I have never wished to see a ghost, although it would be something to talk about, and I am not scared of them so my mind isn't trying to scare me.

It is a lot like muggles who explain the presence of wizards with facts and figures, it is a lot like the dementors, muggles feel them but they refuse to acknowlegde them.

Oh and I know its fiction but maybe J.K had a deeper meaning to this comment. ;)

Dedalus
December 30th, 2002, 11:38 am
I believe in ghosts. In my eyes it's a certainty, like whether or not I believe in the postman.

What they are is a different matter though. There's been experiences of interactive ghosts, but then of some that just seem like a memory. Which is the real one? Or do both exist?

I believe in them mostly because of my mum. I don't know the exact name for it, but she can touch objects and get histories or feelings from them. So she's more inclined to see things like ghosts than a lot of others. Yet she's down to Earth about it - a lot of people who claim to be psychic will go on about crystal balls and the moon and wear big dangly earrings ... my mum doesn't, she just talks about it as though she was talking about having her hair done.

I have sharper senses than some people, but nowhere near the extent of my mum. I can just feel when something odd is happening. I feel strange around 2 rooms in my house, at certain times - my own bedroom and the end of my mums. I once asked her and she said they were the rooms she is suspicious of too.

So it's just always been something that I believe in, but without fuss. It's just there. I also believe in other things a lot of people don't. But the thought doesn't bother me - it'd be like being frightened of my cat or my sister or something (although, she is very scary ... ).

divination
December 30th, 2002, 9:38 pm
I think my biggest fear may be the supernatural.

I have always been afraid of that stuff. Yet, whenver anyone has a "ghost" story or something, I always want to hear it! I guess I sort of poison my own mind, then.
I haven' t ever seen a ghost, but one day I hope to. I hope, if I ever do see one, that I'm not alone! I would quite possibly, go mad.
--cheers.

Return to Darkness
January 1st, 2003, 10:13 am
Here's my belief:
Ghosts are the spirits of those left behind, who do not know they are dead; meaning they have something unfinished, or most anyways. I believe that some know they are dead, but aren't ready to leave yet.
Think: You wake up one day, same old person, but the whole world seems like a bunch of weirdos, not noticing you at all, and then your family moves out, and you don't understad it.
I have several ghost stories:
My cousin moved into a house once where a man had died.
One night they were alone, the cd player was unplugged, and all of a sudden it came blasting on, the lights came on by thereselves, and my aunt felt someone push her off her bed in her room minutes later, but when she looked, no one was there.

My friend: Her boyfriend was killed in a car crash at 1:00. She had the feeling he was dead then and felt his prescence. Over the next week, she was almost killed when a tv fell off a rack, nearly hitting her on the head, but someone caught it. Then he appeared to her, transparent. And explained he had stayed to try to bring her to him, to kill her and get her to come withhim. He asked her if she wanted to go with him, and she said no. And they talked for a while, before he left. She asked his friends, they said they had seen him too.

lanifiel
January 2nd, 2003, 10:49 am
How come there is no documented scientific proof then? That all I want to know :D

Inkwolf
January 2nd, 2003, 1:35 pm
What sort of scientific evidence would you accept, exactly? They can't exactly trap a ghost and put it in the zoo, ya know. What do you want them to find?

There have been many serious investigations of haunted places, and they've sometimes come away with recordings of inexplicable temperature changes, sounds (some of which the investigators heard but didn't appear on their tape--is that proof it wasn't real, or simply evidence that ghosts react directly with our own senses, rather than affecting the physical environment?) and odd photos. How can you get physical evience of a non-physical entity?

But the fact is, there never will be a credible scientific investigation of ghosts, because scientists are like fanatical religious people: any scientist who dares investigate something that other scientists don't believe in is immediately labelled a crackpot and heretic, and is no longer considered a credible scientist. Serious science furiously rejects spiritual investigation in the same way they church would rebel against any scientific theory proving, say, that God is a chemical reaction in our brains.

jamie_leah
January 17th, 2003, 6:57 pm
Energy doesn't die but people do. So what happens to all the energy when we die? I read somewhere that the best scientific explanation for ghost happenings (such as knocking things over, sounds etc) was that it is nothing more than a mass of built up energy. The energy collects and I guess sort of just explodes when it get big enough knocking a lamp over or a picture or rocking a rocking chair. The mass of energy sounds plausible because it is true that energy never dies, but as far as it being the natural cause of the supernatural sounds ridiculous. I believe in the whole energy never dies theory but that just fuels my belief in reincarnation (we have to go on because we never truly die although eventually our souls will find peace-I know it contradicts a bit but I'm a little cracked in the mind anyway), so ghosts? I know I've felt a strange presence more than once in my life and it chilled me to the core. I can tell you, that was no mass of energy.

Emma
January 17th, 2003, 7:23 pm
I do have spirits that visit me frequently.

I do have an idea of one of them. My father-in-law. When ever I think or speak of him light bulbs blow out. As of today I have one lamp that actually works.(His death day just passed, this might be why) I've even bought the expensive type that are supposed to last forever. They might last one month if I'm lucky. Before the light bulbs, if the ex-mother-in-law was to come for a visit, the microwave vents would fall onto the stove. A few times while I was actually in the kitchen at the stove. Scared the jeebies out of me. I taped them into place. Now it's the light blubs. I also find pennies on the floor when I have thoughts of him. He collected jars and jars of pennies.

I've more stories but I need a nap.

Emma
January 17th, 2003, 7:36 pm
Click it.

http://www.geocities.com/area51/shadowlands/5318/ghost.htm

Inkwolf
January 17th, 2003, 10:52 pm
I have a friend from my Star Wars club who tried to make some ghost photographs, as he believes his house is haunted. One of them just showed some unexplained mist in the house. The other is a blurry, very faint image in a mirror. I enhanced the photo in Photoshop, and ended up with a rather gruesome impression of something that looked like a skeletal little monster with a nasty leer. Creeped me out--him too, when I sent him back the enhanced photo.

HHPhoenix
January 20th, 2003, 1:42 am
I do believe that spirits are real, even though I am Christian. I've had a few experiences.

Once I was in a bathroom at a restaurant and no one else was in there. I glanced over while I was washing my hands and a middle-aged man walked into the stall. About 2 seconds later I turned around, but no one else was in the bathroom, no feet in the stall.

I've also had quite a few rather creepy accounts at a friend's house.
Once at his house, me and him were playing horse shoes in the back of his house. His mother was on the front porch and his mother's boyfriend was mowing the lawn. We were playing under his bedroom window, which was open, but completely dark inside. We suddenly heard something from the window call our names and ran in fear, because we knew no one else was in the house.

Another time I was at his house, and it was a few days before Christmas. A few of his relatives and him and I were sitting at the kitchen table just talking. We were talking about my friend's uncle, who had died on December 25th, Christmas of the previous year. My friend's cousin said that the deceased uncle had always loved to turn off all the lights in the house, leaving only the Christmas lights on. All of a sudden, about 5 minutes later all of the lights in the house went out, but the Christmas lights remained on. The switch was in the living room, and nobody was in there.

Another time we were at his house and the lamp from the kitchen just flew from the ceiling and crashed onto the floor. We then went to his bedroom and his sunglasses were on his dresser. We walked out for a mere minute, and when we walked back in, the sunglasses were 2 feet away from his dresser on the floor. When I spent the night at his house that night, I had fallen asleep, but my friend claimed that someone had called his name while he was awake during the night. I'm still not sure if this is true.

As you can see, I have had some minor experiences with the unknown, and in my opinion, I really don't like it because it creeps me out. I just try to believe that angels are surrounding me and protecting me from any evil spirits.

crafty girl
January 28th, 2003, 6:11 pm
I am absolutely obsessed with ghost stories/books/phenomena! As for scientific proof, you can argue that both ways. You could say that there isn’t any scientific evidence beyond the anecdotal, or you could say that enough anecdotal evidence is proof within itself. I believe there have been enough accounts through time, from enough reputable sources to suggest that there are ghosts. What ghosts are exactly remains to be seen, but the lack of scientific proof doesn’t negate their existence. After all, this is not exactly a high priority field of study, as any who wish to do so are labeled “quacks”. Scientific investigation is expensive and I’m sure there is not a lot of grant money for these issues. Additionally, you’re dealing with a phenomena that has not been explained in any way. What instruments are you going to use? How do you quantitatively analyze something that is not measurable? How can you say something doesn’t exist because science doesn’t have the means to prove it yet?

Bilbo
January 29th, 2003, 1:19 am
I do believe in ghosts or spirits or angels or whatever else you may want to call them. Here's why.

I was about 12 at the time....I awoke. I felt sweat running down my back. The room was freezing cold. Then I heard it. I small scream. I glanced at a corner and saw the outline of a woman. "Help me," she cried. She vanished shortly thereafter.
I had trouble sleeping from then on.

Of course, it could have all been a dream. Plus this happened a few years ago, so naturally, some mind exaggeration has taken place.

dreamingfifi
February 2nd, 2003, 11:13 am
I've never believed in ghosts, but I think they are so much fun to tell stories about. Here are a few I've heard:

(This one I saw.)
I was sitting on the school bus when a girl sitting besides me jumped, blanched and looked like she wanted to hide. When I asked her what the matter was, she said, "There's a ghost! It's been floating along side of the bus, and I just saw it!"

"What does it look like?" I asked.

"It's a little girl about my age with blonde hair." I leaned over the seat, peered over her shoulder, and saw a second "ghost" join hers. I almost laughed. The "ghost" was her reflection on the glass window of the bus. The sun hit the side of her face and made her hair in the reflection look like it was blonde, not brunette.

(This one my friend told me, she used to live in Virginia.)
"I was in the school basement with one of my friends, when it got very cold, and I saw a light glimmering like a candle’s on the stairs. We also heard strange creaking noises, and ran for our lives."

(This one is from the same friend, except it's much much much more creepy and cool.)
"We had just moved into our new house, it was very old and fancy. One of our neighbors was digging up the side of his yard so he could put in a new hedge. He told us that he found old guns, buttons, and a few skeletons in his little trench.

That night I couldn't sleep well, and was looking across the neighbor’s yard, I saw a silvery glow. Then appeared a young handsome man, with a horse. He peered around as if looking for something. He was so real I waved at him, and he turned around and waved back. Then he floated up to my window, and greeted me with a bow, saying, "Good eve’n Ma’am."

I replied, and asked him what he was looking for, and he said he wasn't sure. But he did know he was stuck, and needed help out. He found the entire thing very confusing, and didn't understand that this was in the 1990's.

After talking a while he floated off, got on his horse, and road off. Later I found out that their had been a battle near by, and a house near by had been used as a hospital, which had sense been torn down."

Wonderful fun, aren't they?

Moonlight
February 2nd, 2003, 11:44 am
I do beleive in ghosts, don't know why....but they are there. I haven't had any experiences but sometimes you get this eerie feeling, that just seems to pass as soon as it comes...

Ava
February 4th, 2003, 8:29 am
Yes, I do believe that there are many restless spirits out there.
I had an experience once. *shudders*

Skyfang
February 4th, 2003, 5:58 pm
I believe in ghosts. yeah. They often around us and if you're sentive enough you can feel them.

Lunaria Daemonicus
February 15th, 2003, 7:26 am
Hmmm... Ghosts... I've been obsessed ever since I can remember, and am a firm believer that they exist. I saw one, once. It was around midnight or 1:00-2:00 in the morning, and I got up to go to the bathroom. Well, when I opened the door there was a man standing in my hallway. I, being... What? Eight, maybe nine, at the time, kind of tweaked. Then he disappeared. I haven't seen him since. However, I can still feel a presense(sp?) around the house.
A few people I know have used oija boards and have had experiances of their own. None of them good. Then again oija boards, as far as I've leaner, rarely bring out a good spirit.
So, yes, I do believe in them. I've seen one, I feel them around my house (and my friend's), and I've done enough research to know they exist.

lilhpwitch
February 15th, 2003, 9:30 am
I belive in ghost because I have had experiences with them. Once I was asleep in my room and I had this dream that this girl in her 20s was standing over me. I woke up and she was standing there. I stared at her for a few seconds then Blinked and she was gone. In 'heavly dence' places or places with a lot of ghosts it is like trying to walk threw something but it pushes you back and won't let you threw. Some ghost fanatics call this a portal to the other relm. Well when I first moved into my house I was unfortunate enough to walk threw one in my laundry room. I think ghosts arn't here to harm people but they are here to finish buisness that wasn't done. I also Belive that the reason some people don't belive in them is that they havn't opened up to them. If you don't belive that they exist and you feel your head with it it soon blocks them out. So if you ever did come in contact you wouldn't feel it.

Sirius Black
February 15th, 2003, 11:05 am
I believe in ghosts because of TV documentaries. Maybe they aren't true, but I just believe them.

tizzy weasley
February 16th, 2003, 12:37 am
ok..i kinda believe in them. There are ghost in the auditorium at my school. A girl fell off the cat walk and died. scarey i know but there was once when we were rehearsing for an orch concert and the phone kept on ringing and we finally took it off the hook and it rang again. ok freaky. and then at my color gurad practice someone was up in the lights..no one else was at the school....it was about 8 pm. so yea..i believe in ghosts i can say. i freak out too so if you have ghost ts at your house..i'll never come. :/

Sirius Black
February 16th, 2003, 11:36 am
Well, if anyone would believe me, my school which is located in Hong Kong, is a large flatland on a hill with a drive and all. During the Japanese Occupation in WWII, our school was a prison camp, and many students were killed trying to defend the school. They used to hang people on the old trees, and bury dead bodies under our swimming pool. Some people say they felt hands on their legs when they were swimming. And others, the boarders, said they saw Japanese soldiers at night in the mirror holding up swords.

triki1988
February 16th, 2003, 7:59 pm
Ok, that one was just freaky!.
Anyways, we used to kid around with this girl at my school by telling her that the picture of Simon Bolivar right in the middle of the wall where our blackboard was, moved. I once stared at it and I scared myself...very smart, Triki, very smart.
Other than that, read my other stories with REAL encounters.

joelaughing
February 28th, 2003, 4:12 am
Well I would like to tell myself that I dont believe in ghosts but that doesnt mean I want to see one to be proved wrong. The only experience I have had was when my Dad died. I woke up one morning after having bad dreams with my Dad in them and my Grandpa (who I live with) said to come upstairs so I went upstairs and a lot of my family was there and right when they told me that he died the smoke alarm went off. I have other stories that my friends have told me but Im to lazy

Charmed
February 28th, 2003, 11:48 am
When I was younger I believed that there were ghosts and even thought I saw a few. But know I am a sceptic. One of my friends believes in ghosts and spiritual beings-her grandmother is a clairvoyent and says that she sees and can communicate with dead people who are still in the physical world and those who aren't. Personally I have had experiences where I have felt that there was a ghostly presence but I still can't and won't consider myself a full believer or one who doesn't believe at all until I am given or see firm proof that they exist or not.

Charmed
February 28th, 2003, 11:56 am
Here is an email I received it is supposedly a picture of a ghost. It had me believing for awhile just make sure you do what it describes.

Apparently the owners of this house had been seeing images and hearing voices for quite a while. They did some research, and found that a lady once lived in the house who lost her husband during the civil war.
Legend says that she used to sit at the table and look across the fields
in anticipation of her loved one returning home. He never came.
So, they say she still waits. They caught this photo (using digital
imaging and sound) of what they claim to be her. This one is wild and a
little spooky once you find the ghost in the picture.
It took me about 1minute to find it, but when you do, it just stands
out, like one of those optical illusions. To save you some time, concentrate around the table and sort of towards the window. Also, if you have volume, turn it up as you can hear some faint murmurings which they say is the ghost talking (not sure myself)!!
It takes about 1 minute to appear.

Here's the link for the picture.

http://home.attbi.com/~n9ivo/whatswrong.swf

Inkwolf
February 28th, 2003, 12:28 pm
I'm not even gonna look.....I think I've seen that one enough times! :p

Sherlock Holmes
February 28th, 2003, 12:34 pm
Well...I stared at it for some time and never saw a ghost, unless you count the scary picture that flashes for a second.The nature of photography is such that I question how it could capture a real ghost, if they exist. Cameras capture light reflecting off of things---if a ghost is insubstantial, it can't reflect light and therefore no camera can ever get a ghost on film, right?

Or perhaps I just don't have enough faith.... ;)

triki1988
March 4th, 2003, 11:31 pm
*shrugs* I guess it...just happens. You got a point.

Inkwolf
March 5th, 2003, 3:32 am
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=193462#post193462))
--Spoiler Quote Removed! :D -- [/b]

Your spoiler just stopped several people from jumping three feet and wetting their pants, dude! :evil:

The nature of photography is such that I question how it could capture a real ghost, if they exist. Cameras capture light reflecting off of things---if a ghost is insubstantial, it can't reflect light and therefore no camera can ever get a ghost on film, right?



But our eyes work on the same principle as a camera, collecting reflected light. Why do we see ghosts,then? Is it a purely or partially psychic image? If we can see them, we should be able to photograph them.

Sherlock Holmes
March 5th, 2003, 12:24 pm
Originally posted by Inkwolf (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=200654#post200654))
Your spoiler just stopped several people from jumping three feet and wetting their pants, dude! :evil:



But our eyes work on the same principle as a camera, collecting reflected light. Why do we see ghosts,then? Is it a purely or partially psychic image? If we can see them, we should be able to photograph them.


lol, sorry! :p I'll go put spoiler tags around it! It's, er, not the strongest evidence for ghosts, IMO.

Your argument about ghosts assumes that we do see them. I've never seen any good evidence for the existence of ghosts, so I don't believe in them. In any case, you are right Inkwolf. If we can see ghosts, then we should be able to photograph them.

Puffskein
March 5th, 2003, 10:47 pm
I read an article in New Scientist saying that ghost sightings, coldness, etc are caused by variations in electromagnetic fields (I think it was that). So in a sense ghosts do exist, but there are explanations that don't rely on the supernatural.

miri
March 8th, 2003, 12:43 am
I'm a believer :)

I've seen quite a few ghosts, and, when I get depressed etc stuff seems to have a habit of suddenly chucking itself 6 feet (boxes from the top of fridges, once a shoebox that had been untouched for about 6 months chucked itself 2 feet with a big thud at 2 am) but I dont believe that my poltergeist, at any rate, is malicious (though when it posessed my furbie I was rather freaked - one time, after several me-going-to-sleep-with-it-facing-away-eyes-closed-waking-with-it-facing-me-eyes-open incidents, me and a friend just came into my room and looked at it shortly after me telling her about it. The thing then went into dance-mode for 5 mins straight).

I'm also certain it's a girl, short like me, coz I woke once and saw it moving in the dark and thought my friend had got up so started talking at which point it dissapeared and I realised my friend was asleep on a mattress on the floor still.

I owe my poltergeist a lot - she stopped me from falling face-first into a camp fire a few years back. I was near a group of my brothers' friends at Reading Festival 2000, and some of them had strung up strings between the tents as *burglar alarms*. I spotted some people I knew and went to ask them if they knew where my bro was and tripped over it just as they warned me. As I'd been walking towards them, one of them had been pouring vodka on the fire so the flames were going *rather well*. I was near enugh to feel the heat of the flames on my face when a hand grabbed my right arm and yeanked me to my feet. There was a tent on my left side. There was no one standing anywhere near. I think one of the girls I'd been approaching actually SAW the hand coz she asked whose it was. Quite simply, it could only have been a ghost.

I dont know why she's more active when I'm upset but she's never tried to hurt me - when objects have fallen they've only ever been a good 2 or 3 feet away. I think I find the idea quite comforting that I'm not alone :)

I dont know if some people would prefer to think of her as a guardian angel but most of her acts are more poltergeist like (the chucking stuff. The furby posession. She's also turned my tv on for me). I have also seen random fleeting images of ghosts (some of them quite odd like a marble white hand the size of a 4 year olds floating at eye level when i was 11... it didnt freak me at the time, I didnt feel threatened. I also got the impression it wasnt a disembodied hand coz it seemed peaceful) but they do tend to be split second.

I'm perfectly happy having a poltergeist who follows me around sometimes :)

The only supernatural thing that really freaked me was when I was about 15 and I heard this long scream of sheer terror when I was trying to get to sleep. It took me about 2 mins to get up the courage to look out of my bedroom window - where the noise came from - but nothing and no1 was there, and my mum who's a light sleeper, hadnt heard it.

Harry_Potter
March 8th, 2003, 1:31 am
I see ghosts all the time, the always look like they have big sheets over their head and the have two eyeholes. The say boo! You think I'm kidding dont you? I hate you.

miri
March 8th, 2003, 1:42 am
What does hate feel like?

PhoenixFeather
March 8th, 2003, 2:35 am
I definitly believe in life after death and I lean toward believeing in ghosts.

I had two best friends, and by that I mean inseperable. Well, A little over a year ago one of them was killed in a car accident. For quite a while afterwards I was in seriously rough shape. Then I started having dreams about her. The odd this is this...my dreams never make any sense whatsoever, they're very chaotic, but when she came it it would all stop and we'd have a normal conversation as if she has just stopped by. We'd even talk about her death. After a while she'd tell me she had to go and my chaotic dream would continue. I'm convinced it really was her using my dreams to talk to me. It's hard to explain, but it definitly wasn't normal dreams.


As for friends, I had a roommate in college who said her house back home was haunted. One night she swears she woke up and someone was spooning her! (for those who might not know, "spooning" is when too people lie on their sides very close together with the person in back putting their arm around the person in front. It's very much a "couple" sleeping position.)

triki1988
March 8th, 2003, 5:30 pm
Woah...I would have died.
Ok, so, about two nights ago, I was falling asleep, or, in scientific terms, in "Alpha" which is when you're just starting to drift off and you're really comfortable and BAM! you wake up all of a sudden because you picture yourself falling off a cliff. Well, that didn't exactly happen to me. I was starting to get all dizzy when I feel someone walk inside my room. I thought it was my mom until I felt someone slapped my, uh, derriere on my right side, and my left side is the one facing the door.
And, a couple of weeks ago, I decided to tell my mom what I had seen at my aunt's house (I think it's in one of the previous pages) and she told me that while my grandparents were staying there for Christmas, that my Grandma would get goosebumps for no reason. It seems that I'm not as crazy as I thought.

Also, my neighbor's mum died on Dec. 31 2002 from Cancer. She was such a great woman, I always remember her with a broad smile on her face or having a smoke outside. Anyways, shortly after her death, m mom and one of her friends were at my neighbor's house when all of them noticed there was a really strong smell of roses.
They say that whenever there's a spirit/ghost/sould that has good intentions, a nice smell is with them. We have no doubt that was her mom.

venus1818
March 11th, 2003, 5:16 pm
I don't believe in ghosts. I believe in live after death but not in the form of a ghost. I was trying to explain my point of view, but I can't put it all together!

miri
March 11th, 2003, 6:51 pm
Lol ghosts are only one scenario I see happen after death; I also believe in reincarnation, that some people really do just cease to exist spirit-wise, and I'm open to the suggestion that there's a heaven too!

Finch
March 13th, 2003, 3:43 pm
Ghosts are totally real. I go to haunted houses and take pictures. I get some freaky looking stuff. I'll try to find a scanner that I can use and post em.

triki1988
March 13th, 2003, 11:39 pm
Miri: I once said I believed in reincarnation and I nearly get lynched by these catholic school girls I used to know.
Anyways, that won't change my views or beliefs. I also believe in past lives because I've heard stories about people who had been hypnotized and saw many, many things in different epochs and found the reason for some of their phobias...now, why am I so scared of needles? I guess, I'll never know because some people have died during the hypnosis - but I would like to try it one day.

Mystic Fairy
March 14th, 2003, 12:14 am
:ghost: I believe in ghosts. My mother was cleanig trhe rug in front of the stairs and she turned around and saw my grandfather who died five years earlyer.{ I wasn't born then.}:ghost:

Sredni Vashtar
March 14th, 2003, 12:19 am
I have had some hair-raising experiences, but I'm not it was due to ghosts. One experience was when I was visiting an antique store here in San Jose, and as my friend and I were wandering around, we came across this 19th century horse-drawn hearse that gave us both cold chills. My friend actually "felt" an evil presence. My cold chills were from freaking out at the way my friend was talking.

I also live very close to the "haunted" Toys R Us store in Sunnyvale, CA, though I have never experienced anything while shopping there, apart from my money disappearing for some strange reason. :D

Sredni Vashtar
March 14th, 2003, 12:22 am
Originally posted by Fuchsia (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=64022#post64022))
Has anyone else noticed that here in the States all ghost citings are of Colonial times?
UK get middle-ages and we're stuck with the boring Colonial people.
Why not a hippie drug-using 70's ghost who steals doritos?


It depends on who you talk to, Fuschia. I had some friends who swore up and down their house was haunted. Apparently, there had been a fire in the house prior to my friends buying it, and someone died in the fire. It was a fairly recent fire - 1970 or so. I can't say I ever felt anything, but one of the people in the house told me he kept feeling cold water dripping down the back of his collar whenever he sat in the front room. I really don't know if it was just a psychosomatic thing with the guy, or if he really felt it, but he always felt it underneath the balcony that burned.

chow mein
March 14th, 2003, 12:27 am
I definitely believe in ghosts. When I went to school in the Philippines - my friend and I were on our way to the bathrooms and we saw this lady by the sinks, my friend started freaking out and screaming "White Lady, White Lady" (It's the name of this ghost that haunts the school) and she ran. I didn't have a clue what she was talking about because I was new there. But when I turned back to face the sinks, the lady was gone.

I've heard stories from my mom and dad about ghosts and stuff - and I believe them. I can see it in my mom's eyes when she tells the stories to me that she still is terrified about some of the events.

Sredni Vashtar
March 14th, 2003, 12:30 am
Originally posted by Inkwolf (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=105585#post105585))

(*Except maybe once, when my dead dog came to me in a really, REALLY vivid dream. She just stood and stared at me, the way she used to when she wanted me to wake up. Yes, THAT dog could wake me up just by staring. It was almost creepy. ;D)


This is an interesting phenomenon: Dead pets. Have you ever spent so much time with an animal that when it finally died, you could still feel its presence? I used to date someone who had a 20 year old cat when I met him. The cat died a few months into our relationship, and of course the guy was seriously upset. He had that cat for most of his life. Anyway, several nights passed after he buried his cat, when he was laying on his bed at night and swore he felt the cat jump onto the bed with him.

I have to say, that even though I'm skeptical of the existence of ghosts, I have had the feeling dead pets were in the room with me. I never see anything, but occasionally, I can hear my old iguana sneeze or pull herself across the carpet (her back legs were paralyzed, and the sound of an iguana pulling itself across the carpet is a very distinctful sound). I also feel my old cat, Boris, rub against my leg from time to time. It's a little chilling, yet comforting at the same time.

Perdita
March 14th, 2003, 8:07 pm
Ah, this is my ultimate fave topic.

I have only had three experiences in my lifetime, and non-believers can easily use psychology to explain it away. Myself, I believe that I was in contact with spirits.

First Incident

When i was seven years old, my grandmother died. I cannot say that we had a good relationship prior to her illness (cancer) and unfortunately, it got worse afterwards.

The night that she died, I did not see her at the hospital. I only heard about it from my father when he got home.

On the night after she passed away, I dreamed about her.

I was in her hospital room, and she was sitting in a wheelchair. The wheelchair was spinning very fast, so fast that I could not see Grandmother's face. It was just a blur of a person in a spinning wheelchair.

While she was spinning, she said to me: obey your parents. Don't be mischievous. Make sure that you and your brother don't get into trouble. She said these things over and over again. The sight of her spinning so uncontrollably in her wheelchair frightened me immensely.

The next scene appeared and we were in what looked like our garden at home, but it soon became apparent that this was not our garden. It was way too large, a lot of plants. I could not tell what plants they were, but Grandmother told me that they were rosebushes planted by her eldest daughter, my aunt L. She told me to push her wheelchair around the garden to look at my aunt's work. I could not see Grandmother's face because I was standing behind her, pushing the chair. We walked for a bit, and then I felt like I didn't want to go any further. I stopped, and Grandmother told me to keep going. I didn't want to, I refused to. I just stood there, and the chair began to spin again and I heard Grandmother say the same things over and over, to obey my parents and don't be a troublesome girl.

Then I woke up because I was so terrified of what I saw happening. I was too young to think critically about what had happened, but I knew that it was a spirit that spoke to me. This is one of the very few dreams that I can recall so clearly, even after so many years (+10) later.

I did not tell my parents about this dream until I was well into my teenage years.

My mother insists that it was a malevolent spirit who tried to lure me away into death. I would not go so far as to believe that. All I know is that even now, when I think about that dream, I still remember how terrified I felt.


Incident Two

This happened at the home that I am living in right now.

On days when I didn't have afternoon classes and stayed at home, I would spend most of my time in the study or the entertainment room in the basement of the house. Our front door is very stubborn and we always have to push it hard and fast to make it shut properly. Often, at around 3:30 to 4:30 pm, I would hear a loud bang upstairs on the first floor, as if a door was being shut violently.

I don't know why, but everytime that this happens, I expect that my aunt K. has come home early from work. I would ignore the banging of the door and go back to what I was doing. After a while, I would realize that I did not hear any footsteps upstairs. I would wonder, how is it that my aunt has come home, but I don't hear her moving around? Then I would go upstairs to see if she was indeed at home. Every single time, the first floor would be empty and I would realize that no, in fact, my aunt had not returned home yet.

I dismissed it as the mailman leaving letters for us, and that he had to open the storm door to do so. This is what happened at our old house because the mail slot was in the door. It was not until a later incident that caused me to tell my family about these bangings that my brother pointed out to me that for the mailman to leave mail for us, he need only put it in the mailbox that hangs next to the entrance outside. The mailman would not have had to open the storm door at all.

I don't know why I never figured that out myself, and I don't know why I fall for it every time it happens. I always believe that my aunt had come home early, in spite of the fact that she rarely comes home at that hour.

When my father was not working for a while because of illness, he stayed at home everyday. He heard this banging on two occassions. He insists that it is the next door neighbor's door banging. This is impossible because we live in a detached house. He refuses to dispell this notion, however impossible it is.

*****

There is a third incident, the one that compelled me to tell my family about these strange occurrences. Maybe I'll tell that one another time. It still spooks me, so I'd rather not have to think about it. At least not now.

Finch
March 15th, 2003, 1:39 am
I live around the Colonial area of Virginia (US), so stuff happens to ma alot. Like, one time I heard a British toddler asking me to let her out. *spine tingles* It was REALLY creepy.

created_to_worship
March 18th, 2003, 1:26 am
I had to compile some ghost stories from the Ozarks last year for an English 102 project, and I used a website as my visual aide using one of the stories. This happened to my parents a long time ago:
http://www.geocities.com/english102project/index.html

Inkwolf
March 18th, 2003, 2:39 am
Cool!

Sirius Black
March 18th, 2003, 11:55 am
Cool story. Though it's rather short. Has anyone read the book series, True Singaporean Ghost Stories?? They're cool stories rumoured to be true. 10 stories in each book, 10 books overall. You should check it out.

Finch
March 18th, 2003, 8:48 pm
Originally posted by Sirius Black (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=219126#post219126))
Cool story. Though it's rather short. Has anyone read the book series, True Singaporean Ghost Stories?? They're cool stories rumoured to be true. 10 stories in each book, 10 books overall. You should check it out.



VERRRRRYYY good books. I used them for a school report on Singapor once. My teacher failed me becaues he said my reasurch couldn't be substanciated. :rasp: well poopy on him!!!

Shi
April 22nd, 2003, 3:33 am
I believe in ghosts. A family of ghosts inhabits my friend Jennifer's house. The ghost family includes a woman, a man, and two young boys. I've seen the man there before, but never any of the other ones. One of the boys is about the same age as my friend's little brother. In fact, my friend woke up one morning with a boy standing at the foot of her bed staring at her. At first she thought it was her brother, but when she awoke fully and looked closer, she saw that it was one of the ghost boys. His mouth was moving like he was saying something, but my friend can't hear them speak. Her brother on the other hand has had conversations with both of the young boys. At night, you can hear the entire family moving about the house.

dreamingfifi
April 22nd, 2003, 9:08 am
Has anyone else noticed that here in the States all ghost citings are of Colonial times?

Maybe it talkes a few hundred years to become a ghost. I hadn't noticed that. Most ghost stories I hear about are from the War Between the States.

I have a question for everyone, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS? I love to tell ghost stories and such, but I've never believed in ghosts since I stopped believing in The Little Mermaid. I just can't see the logic behind a ghost, so tell me why you believe in ghosts. poke:

Inkwolf
April 22nd, 2003, 2:59 pm
Well, why not? Many people seem to have seen them--including people I know and respect. Ghosts are perfectly compatible with centuries of religious beliefs of all cultures.

The only thing against their existence is the fact that science has not managed to explain/verify/prove them yet. There are a lot of things Science hasn't managed to verify, prove or explain yet, but that does not mean they are all fictional. Scientists still fight furiously over whether the pygmy elephant exists, in spite of actually having a few specimens.

Have you read the whole thread? Not only do many people here describe personal experiences, but I think his argument has been discussed before, too.

Sirius83
April 22nd, 2003, 4:43 pm
While at my grandparents house a few days after my grandfather died, i was sure he was standing behind me for a moment. You know, just that feeling that someone is there? Of course, nobody was. Now, as i found out shortly after, my grandmother thought she saw him in her room the night he died. He was walking like a normal person, sure of what was in front of him, and he was looking around the room. For the record, he was blind for years before he died. My grandmother believes he was letting her know he's happy now. To my knowledge, there haven't been any more strange occurances, so i don't believe he's haunting the house or anything, he probably moved on. I am somehow almost certain though, that in those days after he died, he returned to the house and remained there for a little while(he didn't die at home) before moving on to wherever he is now.

What puzzles me the most though, is why some ghosts are one time sightings, and others remain in places, haunting them. Why is it that those select few spirits have not moved onto whatever new plain of existance exists after death?

triki1988
April 23rd, 2003, 1:56 am
Originally posted by dreamingfifi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=281574#post281574))
Maybe it talkes a few hundred years to become a ghost. I hadn't noticed that. Most ghost stories I hear about are from the War Between the States.

I have a question for everyone, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS? I love to tell ghost stories and such, but I've never believed in ghosts since I stopped believing in The Little Mermaid. I just can't see the logic behind a ghost, so tell me why you believe in ghosts. poke:


Why do I believe in them? Because I've seen other people do stuff about my house, felt things going on behind me, experienced really freaky stuff, and I don't think it's coincidence that many people have also felt that.
Aside from that, it's nice having a break from the nagging living.

AvidSkyRise
April 23rd, 2003, 4:14 am
I definitely believe in ghosts and I think that you should have contact with them
I believe ghosts are indeed spirits with unfinished business or something holding them back and if you have the chance to help one or meet one you should find out about it
My best friends house is haunted by a ghost
His name is Bob
hahaha

Perdita
April 23rd, 2003, 4:36 am
I don't think that people should go looking for ghosts, or try to make contact with them.

You never know if a ghost is benevolent, or malevolent. It might appear to be harmless at first, but you don't know for sure what its purpose is for being there. There is always the possibility that it is evil, and you don't want to be taken control of by a spirit.

For example, some people think that using a ouija board is fun. They don't have a clue what they're getting themselves into.

Not all spirits are good.

triki1988
April 23rd, 2003, 10:00 pm
Trust me, never use a Quija board. I was once at this party and this guy is like "oh yeah..let's play it". Me and 2 of my friends got out, but soon after they started playing the game, all the lights went out. Then, they all ran away from that room saying that their candles had been blown off by the wind and they heard someone saying "Dejenme en paz" Spanish of "Leave me alone".
The same thing happened to my mom when she was young and played the game once or twice.
I'm just curious to see how the triangle moves without you having to touch it.

Llopin
April 23rd, 2003, 10:10 pm
Although I have never played that Ouija, I have some friends that have had kind of scary experiences, and I don't really want to try it. It is too... not frightening, but weird. However, I have read some information about it. They always recommend to take strict measures about the ambiance of the room and the behavior of the humans. And NEVER leave wihout asking the "ghost": if you run away while he doesn't want you to leave, he may get angry.

Of course, those things are very unscientific and not real, but it seems that what happens is true. There are several witnesses of those acts of desesperation. Apparently, there are some people that broke those strict rules and were later punished.

But that might be more an urban legend that a reality. In today's society, you can't trust anything, even if it's from your friend's mouth. Even mates make up and invent things to confuse you.

But it might be true.

mdb25
April 23rd, 2003, 10:11 pm
I would have to say that yes, I do believe in ghosts, spirits, etc. I've never actually had an encounter with one, but I've never had one with God either, but I still believe in Him. I think anything is possible.

Benzo
April 24th, 2003, 12:05 am
:ghost: B :ghost:O :ghost: O :ghost: ! :)

triki1988
April 24th, 2003, 1:15 am
AHH!!

Loz
April 24th, 2003, 10:14 am
I have a fairly open mind about Ghosts. I believe that there are presences, essences if you will, that cannot be easily explained away. I also believe it is Human Nature to create something and to mythologise it so much that it takes on a whole new form. Movies, books, urban legends, kind of take the mystery and supernaturality away from Ghosts and Spirits. I do get the heeby-jeebies late at night occasionally, though.

Squintz
June 14th, 2003, 3:34 am
I have a friend whos house we beleive to be haunted. There's this eerie presence in her hallway mostly, and her dining room. This doesn't quite make sence, considering that all the houses in our neighborhood were built in the 70's, and this presence for some reason doesn't fit quite into that time period.
I personally have never actually seen a ghost, but i don't doubt their presence. I figure that if they're there, then they have reason, and their soul is not at peace. however, i also beleive that i might be scared out of my witts if i ever came face to face... i'd like to have someone there with me...holding my hand.
those of you who haven't seen one, but beleive, do you think that you might be a bit frightened?

Crystal
June 14th, 2003, 10:47 am
Originally posted by Sredni Vashtar (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=212376#post212376))
This is an interesting phenomenon: Dead pets. Have you ever spent so much time with an animal that when it finally died, you could still feel its presence? I used to date someone who had a 20 year old cat when I met him. The cat died a few months into our relationship, and of course the guy was seriously upset. He had that cat for most of his life. Anyway, several nights passed after he buried his cat, when he was laying on his bed at night and swore he felt the cat jump onto the bed with him.



Before we moved house I would often wake to the sound of a cockrel crowing. The problem was that we were the only house on the street who kept chickens and they had all died some years previously (not all at the same time though.). Sometimes I'd also get a creeped out feeling, if I looked into the garden the local fox was usually there, this stemed from when the dratted thing tried to eat the chickens. Even now I chase them out of the garden with a stick.

Inkwolf
June 14th, 2003, 12:49 pm
Ghost pets? I mentioned my dog's dream visit briefly toward the beginning of the thread. It's possible it was ONLY a dream--I was so happy to see her I yelled and woke up and she was gone--but I not only 'saw' her in my dream, oddly misty and glowing greenish, but felt her presence very strongly.

That was a dog who had had a powerful personality and had been able to wake me with just her stare in life. She was as smart or smarter than I was, and knew it, and had a very independent and impatient attitude! :) At the time I mention, I was extremely upset about some financial problems, and I could feel that my dog knew something was wrong and was worried and had come to see what was up. So, I can't help feeling she was 'out there' somewhere, and that while she wasn't exactly watching over me like a guardian angel or anything, she was still interested enough to drop by and check up on me when I was in trouble.

Unfortunately, the cynical part of my brain keeps saying stuff like "It was probably just a dream brought on by stress." I hope not. My old pooch couldn't do anything to help me with my problem, but it felt good to think she was around.

nox
June 15th, 2003, 8:14 am
i believe. especially in theatre ghosts. i've seen ome things happen after somebody said "Macbeth" in a theatre. closet doors found off the hinges after the rooms they are in were locked for the night, presences in local historical theatres....no theatre is complete without its own resident ghost...however much it might freak us out.

RiddleWolf
June 15th, 2003, 11:02 am
i'm not sure what i believe, but i know there's someone out there that looks after me and my idiocity. God? Or some kindly angel? or a family member whose passed away a while ago but takes a special intrest in my life and helps me out? or is it just consecuence that when i do dumb things the result isn't as bad as i fear?

i don't know.

but i'm glad if i have a guardian. and i thank him or her or (possibly) they. in my quest to becoming better person, their help has been very much appreciated.

but i would not want to meet anything supernatural. just hearing stories is scary enough. but if i were to, i hope it's my benefactor/s. and i also do not wish to be alone with the supernatural unless it be my guardian/s.

i'm sorry, but this topic scares me silly ( i really don't even know why i went into this thread). i'd done two detailed stories about some people who had bizzare happenings and my thoughts about them. they also included who i think is this mysterious helper. but something happen and i lost the whole message.i'm too lazy to write it up again

and perhaps my guardian's doesn't want me to reveal anything? who knows? not i.

Midnightsfire
June 15th, 2003, 1:33 pm
Hmm...Anyone ever read about the Bell Witch (http://www.bellwitch.org/)?

Virtuousdream
June 15th, 2003, 4:46 pm
Nope, reading it now ;)

Woah, I have shivers and goosebumps after reading that,and it's a hot afternoon.

Weird. I do believe in Ghosts, because there have been too many reports, despite myself never experiencing anything, and I'm glad, because they scare me!

Purrrrrrr
June 16th, 2003, 1:05 am
I've always wanted to drive up to Adams, TN (I think that's where it is) and see the Bell witch stuff out there.

I do believe in ghosts. I live down the street from a battle ground where part of the Civil War was fought in Nashville. My best friend's mother took a picture underneath a tree on the property when she was younger. In it, sitting in the tree is a very faint outline of what looks to be a soldier poised in the tree. When the battle was fought, some of the soldiers hid in the large trees to get a better view of their enemy. Also, on the property sits a large house. Some of the wounded men we set out on the porch, as the house was full. You can still see the body impressions, as well as inside the house (I was a tour guide). If you go out late at night and drive up to the house, sometimes you can see something lying on the porch, or someone pacing in the windows.

nox
June 26th, 2003, 7:04 am
purrrrrrr--could you put up a link to that picture?

Annerach
June 26th, 2003, 3:10 pm
I do not believe in ghost or any other supernatural things. I'm open minded. That is to say, if someone came up with proof I would at least look into it. But, so far, no one has produced sufficient proof, that couldn't be explained logically. I like stories about ghosts and supernatural stuff, like HP, but That just what they are; stories. It's all fiction.

dreamingfifi
June 28th, 2003, 7:55 am
OH, I just love creating ghost stories, and reading them. Now Iwant you too take a close look at this picture. Can you see how the rooster seems to be outlined? I swear that I didn't modify the picture at all.

Sw33TLiLBuMbL3B
June 28th, 2003, 5:52 pm
lol I get scared VERY easily.. I'm 15 but I'm scared of Ghosts and all those stuff... hehehe but any way... I believe in spirits... and I don't like watching scary movies since I end up not getting any sleep at night...

red
June 28th, 2003, 8:05 pm
Originally posted by Sabrina (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=63836#post63836))
Do u beleive in ghosts ne 1?i do.i`ve had personal ghost experiences my self-every 1 has some won`t admit it it`s like muggles;they`ll go 2 ne lenght to ignore magic.


hi, yeah i believe in ghosts but in various forms, i think that there are some who are stuck here on earth for whatever reason, those that only come in visitation and some of it is just risidual energy of an event that has happened

Annerach
June 28th, 2003, 10:20 pm
Originally posted by dreamingfifi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=398265#post398265))
OH, I just love creating ghost stories, and reading them. Now Iwant you too take a close look at this picture. Can you see how the rooster seems to be outlined? I swear that I didn't modify the picture at all.

That's not concrete enough to be proof. There's no reason why that couldn't just be something light did in the camera. Much like red-eye. That's just not good enough to make me a believer.

dreamingfifi
June 29th, 2003, 2:34 am
Originally posted by Annerach (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=400046#post400046))
That's not concrete enough to be proof. There's no reason why that couldn't just be something light did in the camera. Much like red-eye. That's just not good enough to make me a believer.


Oh darn, you caught me. Actually, I accidentally dropped the picture in some water, and it dried up a little funny. I scanned the picutre and the light caught the ridge made from the wet spots. Nothing weird about that at all. It's still cool. :rolleyes:

Annerach
June 29th, 2003, 6:39 pm
Yeah, it's still kind of freaky looking anyway.

RosettaPotter
June 29th, 2003, 10:15 pm
I totally be lieve in ghosts. I have seen one and felt a few presences. I am a total believer.

Annerach
June 29th, 2003, 10:36 pm
Just because you see something doesn't prove that it's real. Our senses are not totally reliable by any means. Unless you have solid physical proof you don't really know that it's real.

anumati
June 29th, 2003, 10:43 pm
I'm a 'see-it-to-believe it' kind of person, so I never believed in ghosts. Now it could be my naivety speaking - but if there were ghosts for every dead person, wouldn't we be seeing ghosts everywhere. There are billions of people that have passed on, but I have yet to see a ghost. Don't get me wrong though, I don't discount the possibility of ghosts existing, I just need to see it before I can believe it.

riot_girl
July 1st, 2003, 9:32 am
Ghosts, well yes I believe in them. I experience them alot. I think that people who do see them are people who are open to these things as I am. People think they are scary but these people have never been through it. Also I think people that do experience them, experience them for a reason. What annoys me about people is that they think your some freak. I mean can't that open up?. Or are they afraid of the truth?. Arrgh!.

Anyway getting on with my experiences.

My mum works in an old mansion which is haunted. There is this one room that I can't go into with feeling weird. I cant breathe, I cant think, and I get scared. Thats they weird thing its scary. But every other time I feel ghosts im not scared. I get the feeling I shouldn't be in that room and that i should leave which I do. It has been proven that there is a ghost in that room through one of those peoples. Lol I cant member their name. I get bad would you say "vibes" from him. Now I dont go in there I just avoid it. You know I think that I just should leave him alone. Its what he wants and so be it.

Ok next thing is my dreams. I often have nightmares and those falling dreams. I also dream of seeing ghosts of people. They tend to make me wake up in tears and I talk to them but they mostly give me the feeling that they are in peace.

Next thing is that I can feel them behind me often. Like Ill be sitting there typing away and next minute Ill be out of breath and just a bit dazed.Then back to normal the next. They sometimes stand next to me aswell. I just say leave me be and they go. It sort of scares me a bit. But I should be glad that I have people watching me in life.


These experiences happen mainly when Im down and out. I have been through alot and I think thats just would I say Gods way of looking after people?.

I dont really like the word Ghost I think they are more Angels. Watching over people. Ok thats enough said I think you will get my drift.;)

go_anna40
July 1st, 2003, 9:40 am
Well, how do you define 'ghost'? And really, I frankly don't know what one is, and so, I'm not sure if it's right in front of my face or anything.
But, I'll just use the sterotypical view. Well, no, I don't believe I've seen one.
I don't really believe in ghosts, but now and then, I just, edge to the believing side.
It's weird actually.

WaffenSS
July 1st, 2003, 9:42 am
Don't believe in demons, ghosts, or fairies, it's more of ones ability to believe things that arent true than to believe the true, everyone has there own sense of reality, everyones reality is just slightly off.

Inkwolf
July 1st, 2003, 12:45 pm
I was at a writer's cub meeting last night, and one of my friends was talking about a ghost they used to have. She took the kids up to put them to bed, and there was an impression in the bed as if someone had been lying there...the rocker used to rock on its own....a door (which was really difficult to get open when you wanted to) would open itself up. Whenever they changed something in the house--adding new windows, putting up new siding, etc--the ghost would have tantrums and pound on the walls and break things. Her husband and a friend of his heard a voice in the basement saying 'Stop rocking...stop rocking..." over and over. (The husband's friend was told it was probably just the ghost, and he took off and never returned. :D ) My friend asked around and the previous occupant told her 'It's the ghost of my grandmother. Not a blade of grass has grown on her grave since we buried her." Eventually, the ghost gave up and stopped making itself known....and grass sprouted on Grandma's grave.

But my friend says she thinks the ghost actually moved out and followed her son when he left home.....the son's family have weird things happening in their house now, though everything has stopped in the old farm.

triki1988
July 1st, 2003, 4:58 pm
You know, I doubt I'd like to go to Adams.

riot_girl
July 2nd, 2003, 4:32 am
Well Ill define what I think they are. They are more like energy's or you know when someone stands behind you and you can feel them there it's a bit like that except there is no one. Its hard to really describe how it feels though. I dunno you have kind of got to experience them to know how it feels. Its not a bad feeling its just like being watched or somthing or having someone over your shoulder.;)

MirusCarus
July 5th, 2003, 1:55 am
I know the feeling well riot_girl. And then theres the little dark haired girl I see out of the corner of my eye every so often... :scared:

She's not threatning though, just playful. Like, I think it's her that always puts my candles out. I've named her Raven, since thats the colour of her hair.

Laura Borealis
August 13th, 2003, 12:28 pm
I definitely believe in ghosts, always have, always will.
I've had many experiences with the supernatural in various places.

-My House-
My house was built in the late 1800s. Actually, It started out as the room where I'm sitting then they pushed an old schoolhouse up to it a few years later. Then they added the living room and the upstairs. But it's been in my family for over 100 years. Anyahoo...Whenever I've been home alone, minding my own business, watching TV, I sometimes hear people walking around upstairs (and this place creaks like it's its job). Sometimes it sounds like they're moving furniture. I've never had the courage to go investigate though. Also, here is my sighting in the house. It was two-ish in the morning, I know I was asleep, when all of a sudden, I sat bolt upright and looked at my door which was opening as I stared at it. I looked through it and I saw a lady walking down the stairs. She had a bun on the top of her head, and appeared to be carrying something in one of her hands. She got a few steps down before I hid under my covers. I got the distinct feeling that her name was Sarah (The weirdest thing though is that I had and imaginary friend named Sarah, and I still talk to her instead of to myself, and all of my dolls were given the name of Sarah, very weird). But I've been afraid of the hallway/stairs ever since.

Sometimes when my cat is in my room, it will be sleeping, then wake up suddenly and look at my wall, and just stare at it, not blinking, just staring for up to five minutes. Or sometimes, it will turn its head in different directions as if it's following something around my room. Creeps me out every time.

-Savannah, Georgia-
I went here last year for girl scouts with two friends from my town and various others from Nebraska. Well, we went to Juliette Gordon Low's birthplace on one of the days. And while we were in there, my friends and I (we constantly pick on each other, like slap each other, call each other names, just friendly like) didn't once call each other a name or hit one another or anything of that sort. It was really weird. Then a few nights later we went on a 'ghost walk' around historic Savannah. The tour lady took us to the birthplace and told us that Juliette Gordon Low's mother did not allow people to fight in her home. My friend and I just looked at each other.

While we were on this ghost walk we got to a house, acutally an inn, where a girl who was an endentured servant had died. While the tour lady was telling us the story I saw out of the corner of my eye a light go off, I passed it off as someone on their porch turning in for the night. Then it came back on, again 'Oh, they must have forgotten something' Then we began to walk to the next stop. Each light we passed would go off, then once everyone in our group had gotten past the light it would come back on, only to have the same thing happen at the next light. Very weird.

Other things happened there involving our hotel, but they aren't that interesting.

-My School's Theater-
I was in charge of lights and sound for a while for musicals, one-act plays, events, etc. So one night my crew and I were playing hide-and-go-seek on the stage after a long, stressful practice. I was it, so after I was finished counting, as I started to go find people, the lights flashed, just in the theater, I could see the hall lights were still on. When they came back on I looked up to the light booth (from where all the lights and sound are controlled) and started yelling at Ryan, b/c he would have been the only one to do that and he came out from behind a wing. And the other crew members came out from there hiding spots and we stood there for a moment, then beat it out of there.

Another time, before I was in charge. My friend and I were at her house when we got a call from the crew director for that year. She wanted us at the theater ASAP. So we show up and she was sitting in one of the seats, we started to ask her what was wrong, she told us to be quiet and watch. Soon the house lights would be on full then go off, then come on one row at a time, then off, then two rows at a time, then off, then half on, then full, then off. They followed this pattern for quite some time. She said she had locked her key in the light booth, and had been watching the lights for maybe 15 minutes. We never did get them to go off for the night, so we just left, we weren't in control anymore.

I have more, but I don't feel like typing all of them right now, as I have filled up enough space.

red
August 13th, 2003, 7:09 pm
:scared: wow, that was freaky,
i was in my house a few years back and heard someone call my name, i turned around and saw something dart back behine the wall, then i remembered noone else was in the house.
for some unknown reason i have always been terrified of the ground floor, and still to this day if i have to (and i do everything to avoid the situation) go down there at night i run back up the stairs cos it feels as though someone is chasing me.
and my last thing, my dad died when i was 11 and since then i sometimes feel a breeze circling my right hand as though someone was holding it, i can never feel it anywhere else and one night a few weeks back my best friend and i were at the theatre and it happened again (it had only ever happened in my house) i asked her if she could feel a draught and she couldn't, she said the whole place was boiling, whereas, i was really cold but could only feel the air moving round my hand.

anyway, that's enough from me

TheBoss
August 14th, 2003, 12:34 am
i dont beleive in 'em, but i defenitly get scared...

ever seen that movie "Return to Witch Mountain"?
omg so scary.. *shivers*

oh, and dont tell me you didnt get a lil freaked when you first saw Ghostbusters 2..
the guy in the painting?! UG!!! the river of slime?! *faints*..

yeah yeah, im 19.. it doesnt bug me anymore, but nightmares galore when i was young!

Snivelly Snape
August 14th, 2003, 12:35 am
Ghosts~ I am so interested in them! I watch Ghost shows all the time! I love listening to and reading true ghost stories.
Have I ever had any experiences with ghosts? Well, no... :rolleyes: I don't really wanna get mixed up with that! From the stories that I've heard, ghosts (and the experiences that come with them) kinda creep me out... Call me gullible, but I will believe anyone who has had experiences with ghosts. It disappoints me when there's a particular skeptic that says, "There's an explaination for everything." I doubt that...
Do I believe in ghosts? Hmm, I really don't know... I guess seeing (experiencing) is believing for me. Though I'm definately not a skeptic. I'm very open to believing that they are real. Like I said above, I'm very interested in ghosts (paranormal, etc.)
BTW~ I've only read a handful of these 'personal experiences' from you guys, and some of them are pretty creepy~ I'm going back through the thread to read the rest! I love a good true ghost story :agree:

Hagar
August 14th, 2003, 1:06 am
Ya, I beleive in ghosts. I do this thing called "urban exploration" where we go and explore old abandond buildings, underground tunnels, and go other places you aren't suppossed to. One place I've been to was a old asain assylum, freaky place, lots of noises, "orbs" we found on pics we took, and the worst was when a old wheelchair came rolling down a hallway behind us, we decided to leave after that.

Snivelly Snape
August 14th, 2003, 1:36 am
^ very freaky~ I'm too scared to do things like that! And yet, I'm very interested in doing things like that! LoL! Let's see~ sit at home, being very safe, or getting into a paranormal adventure? Sit at home, being very safe, or getting into a paranormal adventure... Right now I'm opting for the former, and when I get some guts I'll go for the latter! Lol

Laura Borealis
August 14th, 2003, 11:31 am
I would opt for sitting at home w/ no paranormal activity, but if you've read my stories, that's impossible for me. I've only gone looking for ghosts in one experience, and it wasn't actually a hunt, just popular haunts. My friends think that they follow me for some reason, but I've come to accept that.
When we (my girl scout troop) were looking at pictures from our trip to Savannah, we found that most of the pictures (the ones that developed anyway) from our ghost walk had orbs in them.
I should try that in my house, turn most of the lights and take pictures in each room, just to see what develops.

Fantome
August 14th, 2003, 11:55 am
There was a recent psychological study using virtual reality headgear that I found very interesting. Unfortunately, I can't find the article link right now, but I'll describe it. Subjects were placed in a virtual reality environment in which they saw an image of themselves sitting next to their real bodies. The feelings they experienced were very similar to "sensing" a ghost.

Here's a similar study. It's about EM pulses and sensory deprivation, which can cause religious hallucinations. Here's the informal article written by a study participant: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/7.11/persinger.html. It's not a scientific article. It's multiple pages long, if you want to read it. The result is a little tough on religion, so be forewarned.

Psychotropic drugs alone are proof that our brains can tell us things that aren't real. Also, sensory deprivation can do funny things to people, as the brain tries to make out patterns in silence or darkness. It's common to be alone in a house and hear a family member calling your name even though no one else is there. They're not ghosts. Not to mention the effects of adrenaline on the brain... When someone is nervous, the body expects to find someone to fight against or run from.

This all being said, I still find ghost pictures and stories fascinating and entertaining even though I do not believe in them. I have experienced "ghosts" firsthand in my life, during times of psychological stress. After that period in my life was over, I haven't seen or sensed things since. I have a very vivid imagination!

hp_fan_01
August 14th, 2003, 3:51 pm
um, idn if they are real or not..

J3_
August 16th, 2003, 1:56 am
Does anyone know any ghost/supernatural/paranormal websites?

_J

Laura Borealis
August 16th, 2003, 11:35 am
If you're looking for stories to read, I found a website that has many stories, short and long, posted by readers. Most of the stories are pretty good.
http://www.ghosts.org

J3_
August 16th, 2003, 11:32 pm
Cool, if anyone else is looking for ghost stories and anything paranormal including lots of freaky pictures you can go here (http://www.ghost-cafe.com/)

Enjoy :)

_J

xlupin_loverx
August 18th, 2003, 3:25 am
Do I believe in ghosts? Yes. Have I had any ghost experiences? Yes. And not only have I, but my dad has too, and his are much more impressive (his are from when he was stationed in Berlin during Vietnam and the building they were using for barracks had been the site of the death of hundreds of Nazis in WWII - they were drowned in the basement by Allied troops).

But my experiences with ghosts are much more tame. And the ghost was, I believe, that of my grandmother. This was several years ago, and I was babysitting my cousin, who now lives in my grandparent's old house, which is where my grandma died. My cousin was asleep and it was late so I was just sitting there watching t.v. Suddenly I hear something rolling around in the next room. I walk in there, and on top of a stack of CD cases was a little Hot Wheels car, just rolling back and forth and back and forth. Then some of my cousin's electronic toys just turned on behind me. When I turned away from the car to turn off the toys, it stopped rolling and the toys shut off before I got to them.

Now this could have been a coincidence, I know that electronic things will just do that sometimes, and that's an old house, so the floor can't be level. But it was just odd. Then to top it off, when my uncle was taking me home he asked if anything weird happened while I was there. He said things have been randomly falling off shelves and toys turning on and such.

But the thing is, I wasn't ever scared when this was happening. Granted I was a little freaked at first, but for some reason I felt really safe and at ease. And this was a feeling my grandma always gave me.

:) Okay, just sharing. So yes, I totally believe in ghosts.

Laura Borealis
August 18th, 2003, 11:55 am
Okay, this happened to me yesterday. I call it the "Phantom Waterspot"
I was putting stuff away in the refrigerator in the addition of our house. When I came back down the hallway, I stepped in a puddle of something, it was a large puddle. So, I went to get a mop to clean it up, but I couldn't find it! This was just a matter of 10 seconds. No one else could have cleaned it up, because I was home alone. It just disappeared. I told my mom about it, and she said that that's happened to her a few times.

riot_girl
August 19th, 2003, 4:33 am
Ok well since I last posted many things have happened to me so I thought well what the heck Ill tell you all about them.

Ok a few weeks ago I was really feeling down and like I said in my last post about it only happening when I feel really bad. Before being down in the dumps I was really happy and not stressed out therefore things didnt happen.

Ok the weirdest things that haved happened were: I was walking in my hallway where both my brother and dad have seen "something" ,I heard voices. It sounded like my mum calling out my name and I yelled out what?. And she said back to me what are you talking about I didnt talk at all. -weird.

Next thing I was up late in the morning about 2:30 and I had the computer on, tv and light on. Then all of a sudden the t.v turned off like someone had turned it off. If there was a faulty fuse both the computer and light would of turned off since they are all connected. It wasn't like it was like when a blackout turns of the t.v it was like the sound of someone turning it off. I freaked out majorly. Usually Im cool with it all but this freaked me right out.

Next thing I was in the lounge. I had by back turned to the couch and I was sitting on the chair near it. Then I started talking to my mum and I turned around about 10 minutes later and no one was there. But it felt like she was there. Then last weekend I was lying on the couch and I kept hearing footsteps and thinking it was my brother I turned around and nothing was there. It kept happening and happening.

Then lately it feels like someone is on the edge of my bed at night watching me sleep. And also it feels like someone is ALWAYS behind me.

At the moment mirrors have been hard for me to look into. He he Im ugly, no only joking but yeah I just can not bring myself to looking into one for along time. Maybe Im scared of seeing the "thing" behind me one day. Although it doesnt feel like the thing is bad its just annoying having someone watch you 24/7.

There has been storys of animals reacting to "ghosts". The other night my cat was staring into a spot on the carpet and he freaked out majorly. It was like he was looking at someone though.The next day my dad comes in and goes you know such n such died the other day. I remeber once someone else died the cat went crazy. And both cats did it in the exact same spot.

This has all pretty much stopped since I ended up telling my mum about it. Since we joke and talk about our "ghost" nothing has happened. :)

Ugh!. Long post!. Many more things have occured Ill just sum it all up and say yep, my house is haunted.

SevSnapeisMine
August 20th, 2003, 2:43 pm
Yes....I believe in ghosts. I'm very into all that supernatural stuff, it fascinates me. Many of the stories provide good reason to think they actually occured, too...

ArmachiA
August 21st, 2003, 4:42 am
I beleive in Ghosts... I beleive in them because they make me is seems.
I went to a tarot card reader once who told me that ghost seem to notice me and are drawn to me (Not like a medium or anything, I can't see dead people haha)... of course I didn't beleive, I STILL don't really beleive it (Though everyone calls me "The Ghost Magnet" because of it *LOL*)... I think most of the stuff that happens can be easily explained through more practical ways, but somethings that happened to me I have yet to explain.
1. My husband went outside to take the garbage out. As soon as he closed the door, it locked. Hasn't done it agian.
2. One time my husband was going to take back the movies and he opened the door. We got into a conversation and he left the door open... it slammed shut rather violently. At first he though it was the wind... but there was no wind. We even left the door open for like ten minutes and it didn't happen again.
3. I have the remote sitting next to me and the TV will turn off like someone pressed the power button. It does this a lot and it's really annoying.
4. This one is hard to explain. When I was around 17 the lamp cover above my bed suddenly fell off while I was asleep. At first we didn't think anything of it... except my dad couldn't find the screws to screw it back into place (the cover has little holes and the holes weren't damaged so it had to be that the screws came loose) Well, we search my floor for an hour and didn't find anything... then my sister looked up... the screws were still screwed into the ceiling.. tightly, like they hadn't been touched... it was the weirdest thing...

There are more, but I don't want to sound like a dork. If anyone has any explainations for those I'd like to hear them haha

But like I said before, most "ghost incounters" are most likely something else, but ghosts are out there.

girl_wizardry
August 21st, 2003, 5:30 am
Yea I do believe in them and like mostly everybody, I have had my experiences with the supernatural. Maybe we shouldn't be spooked too much you know? I admit that I usually get spooked easily when I was young. I can't go to the dark kitchen in the middle of the night without the accompany of my mom.

I find it fascinating to listen to everyone's experiences with the supernatural. I like that spine-tingling feeling....:)

Quasi_EviL
August 25th, 2003, 12:59 pm
I believe in ghosts...restless spirits wandering the earth.
I haven't had any real experiences per say, but I went to Gettysburg a few years ago (huge battle in the Civil War was fought there for anyone who doesn't know). We were on a ghost walking tour, and had arrived in this one field where hundreds of men had been killed. The tour guide had stopped us and was telling us the story of this portion of the battle. Suddenly I just felt this overwhelming sadness, and burst into tears. I wasn't feeling emotional up until that minute, and when we started walking again, I just stopped crying. I think I believe that the emotion was so strong in that one place that it carried on for more than a hundred years later.

riot_girl
August 26th, 2003, 8:49 am
I get the feeling like Im being protected from something. I have had bad encounters with evil spirits and Im sure the spirit in my life is protecting me from it. Yes I could say that it is an angel but some how I cant. I get mixed feelings from it though. Its like I can feel its emotions. It can be good and it can be bad. Has anyone contacted their angel before?. I want to but Im pretty scared too and im kind of religous so it would be hard for me to do.

Tyskater
August 28th, 2003, 1:50 pm
I believe in ghosts even though i never expierenced any supernatural activity after reading all those supposedy true stories and the supposedy true stories on tv you just have to believe in them.

blood_and_gold
September 1st, 2003, 9:42 pm
I do believe in ghosts in a way. There are different kinds of ghosts. There are ghosts of people who have died, and they did not cross over. Then there are "memory" ghosts, as I call them. They're the projection of a memory of a place or person.

I myself have had a couple ghostly encounters, but mainly I try to learn about the spirit realm by reading and recording other peoples' experiences.

And how can ghosts not exist, when for over a milennium many "sightings" have been reported? Many of them may be false, but isn't there always some truth in fiction?

I like to keep an open mind.

Kelpie
September 1st, 2003, 10:19 pm
Yes I believe in them. Why shouldn't I, when there is so much we don't know about time and space, life and death?

Actually, I'm a little irrational about it. I'm ashamed to admit, that I'm sometimes still scared to be alone in the dark at night in case I see anything :blush:. I also refuse to sleep in view of a mirror, in case I see anything reflected there (I always do in nightmares).

I have a family ghost story. I was only a toddler when it occurred, so I can't vouch for the validity of it. Only that every member of my immediate family is convinced it really occurred and that I have vague memories of refusing to sleep in a certain room. Apparently, when my older brother Nicholas was little, odd things were always happening. The usual things such as hearing footsteps running up and down the stairs when there was no one there and his pictures never stayed upright. No matter what frame they were in, or where you hung them, they always fell down, wheras other pictures were okay. Then my older brothers started complaining that they didn't want to go to bed because of the 'Shadow Man' who they said stood on the top of the stairs and stared through the open doorway into their room. My parents told them not to be silly and it was just shadows. Then, one night when my dad was out, my mum said she heard screaming coming from the boy's bedroom. She rushed upstairs and as she felt an icy chill terror grip her, she thought she saw the shadow of a man flit past her out of sight. Ignoring it, she went to check on Christopher and Nicholas, both of whom were terrified. They told her that they had been fighting when the Shadow Man had come into their room and they'd been sure he was going to steal Nicholas. My Great Aunt was supposedly a medium (she was probably just a quack). She came to the house and said that in a previous life, Nicholas had been a girl, and the Shadow Man was her father. I don't think I really believe that though. Though when I was 12, I had a very vivid 'encounter' with what apparently matched the description of the Shadow Man (complete with a hat). That's about the only time I've seen a ghost, when it's seemed too real to rationalise away. I've searched on the internet, and there is a plethora of sightings of supposed 'Shadow Men'. So whether supernatural, or psychological, it's certainly a well known phenomena

hesdead-dealwithit
September 2nd, 2003, 3:43 am
I don't believe in them, mainly because I have seen no evidence at all for them being real. Eyewitness accounts obviously you can never trust because you don't know the person. If I saw one, though, I wouldn't try to rationalize it, I would believe in them. I just haven't seen one and don't think I will.

Ghosts aren't explained by science, and since you have to trust science over others' accounts, that's what I go with. But if I see a ghost, I'll trust my eyes over science.

Finch
September 3rd, 2003, 12:24 am
Ten years ago, science told us that eating bacon, eggs, cereal, pancakes, and toast was the best thing for you in the mornings. We now know that that isn't true. They also said that the earth was flat. They said that by looking at the earth. I've learned not to take anything scientists say to serious.

ArmachiA
September 3rd, 2003, 1:33 am
Ten years ago, science told us that eating bacon, eggs, cereal, pancakes, and toast was the best thing for you in the mornings. We now know that that isn't true. They also said that the earth was flat. They said that by looking at the earth. I've learned not to take anything scientists say to serious.

Yup, I agree with that. Anyone remember Phoebe's speech from Friends when Ross was trying to prove her her evolution was the only explanation for human beings?
Scienctists though the atom was the smallest thing in the world until they opened it up and found all that stuff inside. Science thought the Earth was flat until it was proved to be round.
Science though that leeches were the best way to get rid of desease...

Yes, science does explain a lot, but that doesn't mean that just because science can't explain it, then it doesn't exist.

hesdead-dealwithit
September 3rd, 2003, 3:07 am
They also said that the earth was flat.

No, those weren't scientists. They didn't have scientists back then.

I don't it's just easier for me to rationalize ghosts as tricks of the dark, etc than actually explain how they could be real. I don't know if this will make sense, but right now if I saw a ghost tomorrow I would try to rationalize it, but I also know that tomorrow I would believe in them and not just say it was a hallucination. I don't know if that made sense, but I think you have to believe in something, and since I don't really believe in religion, I have to go with science. But most of all, you have to believe your own eyes. So even if I knew better than to believe in ghosts if I saw one, even if you know you're hallucinating you have to believe youself. Even if you know you're insane you still have to think you're sane because if you can't believe your eyes, you can't believe in anything.

What I just typed was probably sheer nonsense, and no one probably understood what I just said. But that's alright ;).

NYCwitch920
September 3rd, 2003, 8:45 pm
One day, I was sitting at my computer which is located near my dining room. When I was just surfing through the web, I noticed that the chandelier in the dining room was spinning. It was really weird since there were no windows open and there was no apparent earthquake, vibration, etc. Then out of nowhere, the chandelier crashes onto the dining table about two feet away from me and then I ran to my parents bedroom screaming my head off. :) Yea, I can get a bit scared sometimes.

dreamingfifi
September 5th, 2003, 2:22 am
Here's another good picture I got. I swear that I didn't alter it either!

Padfoot127
September 5th, 2003, 3:47 am
Arr, this is such a cool thread! I've been reading some of these stories and they're freaking me out! I'm not gonna be able to do stuff in the dark anymore...

Finch
September 5th, 2003, 5:09 pm
Heheh, I know how you feel.

J3_
September 6th, 2003, 9:06 am
That cat picture is as easily explained as the chicken one. Everyone knows cats eyes catch any light and reflect it so they can see. Did you by any chance use a flash or have a light facing anywhere near that cat? Sometimes I don't even have a light near my cat and she turns out like that in photos.

_J

FlyingPhoenix
September 6th, 2003, 10:55 am
Ghosts? I don't really believe in it though I had some interest expierience with this. You have to know I live in a house which built where was before the second world war a hospital. Its even built out of the stones of this hospital. There a some things which are look suspicious like things falling to earth which shouldn't do this. Like this one something what stood like that on the wall \ did fall _ . See someone have to push it.

Anyway this are not that much things what let me think. To be honest I did believe in ghosts for some times but now I rather think its our own mind what want see this into things. Like on a summerday I was siting in the living room because it was that **** hot we did darking the room. So it would cool again or rather the sun wouldn't burn into the room. I had stand a bowl with water on the table. The strangest was there was still light shining into the bowl so that the water did reflect it on the wall. But this should be impossible because no sun did shine into the room. I looked around and did think it has to be an explanation. I mean I didn't really believe in it, did I? No, I didn't. I did look around and around till I found an explanation. You know our house is in the middle of other houses in front of a little park. Now we had only one window where the sun was darked. but the other were still open for light. Now the sunlight did reflect on another house windows and this shoot this light directly into the bowl. The funny part is I did even wave my hand over the bowl but there was no shadow only as I took away the bowl the light on the wall was away. But there was an explaination a logical explaination.

Another example possible the one which I can't or rather don't think its a one which can proof there are'nt ghosts.
My grandmother did die as I was eight. She was really close to me so her dead did affect me very much though I didn't show it. We all know what this than means it say we don't solve the lost we had. I was the one who had her at her last day on earth for the whole day it was like a good bye. Anyway it was after 10 years of her dead and I have to go into the hospital cause for a OP. I was once or twice in my live before and after that in a OP so I know I normally don't dream in such situation. But this time I did and the most ironic thing was I did dream about this day. I did in this ten years nearlly everything what happened on this day forget. I just didn't want think on it. But at in this dream I was eight again and my grandmother was alive again. It was a sunny day and simply perfect at the end there was it different to the reality she told me: I had to wake up now and I didn't to be affraid anymore.

Today I think it was myself and not a ghost. Its always our self and not a ghost. We are the one who decide what we believe and what not. And even I think it was really my grandmother it change nothing. I will be still thankfully for this day I had with her. See its like that we have a connection with this person which we do love, we have it in our heart and thats why some things like that do happen.

Ghosts, not really but a kind of spirit maybe. But thats only me.

dreamingfifi
September 6th, 2003, 9:42 pm
That cat picture is as easily explained as the chicken one. Everyone knows cats eyes catch any light and reflect it so they can see. Did you by any chance use a flash or have a light facing anywhere near that cat? Sometimes I don't even have a light near my cat and she turns out like that in photos.

Yeah yeah yeah, I know that it was the flash. But hey, the point is that it looks cool!

haycheng
September 8th, 2003, 11:13 pm
link:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/09/08/ghosts.sounds.reut/index.html

interesting article on Ghost.
Feel a ghost? Perhaps it's infrasound

noddwyd
September 9th, 2003, 3:51 am
hmm, normally I tend to avoid this subject as it upsets my normal sleeping habits. I'm not so sure that I believe in ghosts. I do believe in the memory things that people have meantioned in this thread. And I have seen one, but that person was still alive at the time I believe. I also believe in the idea that if you stare at anything long enough you will see things. And if you sit in silence alone long enough you will hear things. Especially if you are alone in the dark. I remember some tv show I watched once where someone said "If you stare into the darkess long enough, it begins to stare back at you." More than once I have stared into a mirror for a long period of time and my own reflection started doing things I certainly was not doing, and in some cases, could not do. I've never looked for or seen anyone standing behind me in mirrors though. I do believe in evil or just mischevious spirits. But I'm not so sure they are the spirits of the dead. I think any spirits of the dead we see are just those memory things. Just an image of someone doing something they did day in, day out for a long time, or maybe a paritcularly significant memory, like the memory of their death. But I think that the only ones that interact with you, are either guardians, or demons. I also believe in wraiths, but that's another story. The only thing I can think of that comes close to me interacting with the dead happened after my grandad died. For a few weeks afterward, I would always see him in my dreams. In my dream I would be playing out a normal scenario of everyday life for me, and I would see him there in the background watching me. Once or twice, I even spoke to him, and I know at least once I said "but your dead. Why are you here?" Usually after that he would dissapear or I would wake up, or the dream would change to something else without him in it, back to random nonsense. There was one other dream I had that was so real it seemed supernatural, but I won't go into detail on that here since it's kind of private and I treasure the memory of it. I don't know who the being was that visited me in that dream, but either they were very good at deception or they were a good spirit. Probably the most interesting thing about it was I woke up and they were still talking, well I should say communicating, I'm not so sure it was 'talking' to me in the way we think of talking.

But there is something I want to bring up here. Has anyone ever considered that the internet would be an ideal place for a ghost to reside? It exists in a very small space, and they wouldn't have to exert as much energy to make themselves known to others. Not to meantion, and this is the part I find interesting, they could have their own identity here on the net and no one they communicated with would know they were ghosts. Just think, some of the people on this board may not actually be people, but spirits wandering the web. Has anyone ever heard of something like this happening before? Actually, I don't see how you would find out about it, unless they decided to make supernatural things happen to someone's computer, and even then, they probably wouldn't realize the source of the 'disturbance.' It's something to think about.

Kelpie
September 9th, 2003, 12:02 pm
But there is something I want to bring up here. Has anyone ever considered that the internet would be an ideal place for a ghost to reside? It exists in a very small space, and they wouldn't have to exert as much energy to make themselves known to others. Not to meantion, and this is the part I find interesting, they could have their own identity here on the net and no one they communicated with would know they were ghosts. Just think, some of the people on this board may not actually be people, but spirits wandering the web. Has anyone ever heard of something like this happening before? Actually, I don't see how you would find out about it, unless they decided to make supernatural things happen to someone's computer, and even then, they probably wouldn't realize the source of the 'disturbance.' It's something to think about.

I happen to be certain that I have a gremlin in my computer. Sitting there, making my computer crash or the cursor go crazy. Constantly booting me out of chat. Bad, bad gremlin. LOL - did you ever watch the episode of Buffy where Willow was chatting to this strange boy called 'Malcom' who happened to be a demon trapped inside the computer?

Finch
September 9th, 2003, 7:35 pm
Ooo, I remember that episode. Not to good for Willows love life, but I've always concidered the ghosts in a computer or on the internet a possibility. I have this small voice in the back of my head that says that they can go literally where ever they want. Kind of odd/scary to think of it that way.

FlyingPhoenix
September 9th, 2003, 8:06 pm
But there is something I want to bring up here. Has anyone ever considered that the internet would be an ideal place for a ghost to reside? It exists in a very small space, and they wouldn't have to exert as much energy to make themselves known to others. Not to meantion, and this is the part I find interesting, they could have their own identity here on the net and no one they communicated with would know they were ghosts. Just think, some of the people on this board may not actually be people, but spirits wandering the web. Has anyone ever heard of something like this happening before? Actually, I don't see how you would find out about it, unless they decided to make supernatural things happen to someone's computer, and even then, they probably wouldn't realize the source of the 'disturbance.' It's something to think about.

Its an interesting thinking and I agree if this kind of spirit really exist it would be the easiest way to do or to show them. Because nobody can look if there is really someone at the PC.

Snivelly Snape
September 10th, 2003, 3:52 am
But there is something I want to bring up here. Has anyone ever considered that the internet would be an ideal place for a ghost to reside? It exists in a very small space, and they wouldn't have to exert as much energy to make themselves known to others. Not to meantion, and this is the part I find interesting, they could have their own identity here on the net and no one they communicated with would know they were ghosts. Just think, some of the people on this board may not actually be people, but spirits wandering the web. Has anyone ever heard of something like this happening before? Actually, I don't see how you would find out about it, unless they decided to make supernatural things happen to someone's computer, and even then, they probably wouldn't realize the source of the 'disturbance.' It's something to think about.

Interesting that you bring that up~ I've heard stories where ghosts communicate through the telephone, so I think it's interesting that they could use other methods of communication (ie~ internet & TV) Who ever said ghosts couldn't keep up with the times? LoL

dreamingfifi
September 10th, 2003, 6:33 am
That is such a wonderful fun thought! It's a great insperation for a story.

Finch
September 16th, 2003, 10:04 pm
Anybody ever been to a haunted place? Like a battlefield or something? I live just by Yorktown, VA (The last battle of the American Revolution). Creepy stuff goes on there!

Severus Snape1
September 16th, 2003, 11:16 pm
Anybody ever been to a haunted place? Like a battlefield or something? I live just by Yorktown, VA (The last battle of the American Revolution). Creepy stuff goes on there!

I have been to haunted places and it's not so creepy after you communicate with them. If you have that capability.

Laura Borealis
September 17th, 2003, 12:27 am
I have been to Savannah, Georgia on a ghost walk. I would consider that place pretty haunted.

Finch
September 28th, 2003, 12:38 am
I don't have the capability to comunicate with them dirrectly. I'm not that cool.. ahh, but don't I wish.

Anyways, here in Yorktown, there's cannon fire (no cannons), lanterlight, and all sorts of other wierd stuff that scientists try to explain by calling them thunderstorms. Not a cloud in the sky when they were there though...

wicca_gurl
October 1st, 2003, 7:06 am
I've seen a ghost for about two weeks every night in bed, I saw a flash of someone trying to press a button at the Warrigal hospital (Dad saw it to, so I know I did see it), and I heard one in my second (I only had one at a time, so don't worry) bedroom, at my old house

LuvCreevey
October 1st, 2003, 10:31 am
I believe in ghosts although I have never seen one. I have had several people walk into my house and tell me that they thought that my house was haunted. :scared: I always ask why and they can't explain it.

Finch
October 3rd, 2003, 10:12 pm
Sometimes activity is so minimal that a feeling is all you get and you can't explain it. Sometimes I wish my house were like that. Just feelings. It's impossibly creepy to wake up and see someone sitting on the end of your bed.

Honeydukes
October 5th, 2003, 11:35 am
I think I believe in ghosts.. but any sort of 'experiences' were with people so I can't help but think we sort of exaggerated the whole situation to turn it into something it wasn't. But anyhow, heres some stuff

1) People have been talking about animals and ghosts. I agree with this. My sisters old hamster (he's dead now) used to do things like this a lot I imagine, but this one sticks out. Quite a lot of my family and I were awake, probably a little after midnight or something and we had the hamster out. He was just sort of running all over my sister at first as hamsters do, but then he stood still and stared at one spot for quite a few minutes, and I'm sure you'll agreee it's hard to get hamsters to sit still. My hamster that I have at the moment often does this. He'll be sitting in his cage, then he'll sit still and stare. He sort of follows something round the room with his eyes, and he'll often start shaking. I thought it was maybe a fly or something, but I looked carefully and I couldn't find anything. When I try to comfort him he completely ignores me until he comes out of this 'trance.' Er..odd..

2) At my junior schoool it was a popular tale that the old school toilets were haunted. Hardly anyone used them anymore partly because of the new ones that had been built and partly because of fear. Well, a couple of my friends were on prefect duty (sitting inside all break only letting people with little cards in, stopping troublemakers etc. Yawn) and me and my best friends were sort of hovering around the door talking to them. We got talking about the school ghost and they dared us to go to these toilets so we did. We went through the door and the atmosphere was wierd.. all sort of 'tight' and wrong if you get what I mean. We both got out of there sharpish. ANother thing that happened a long while ago at the same school was a teacher had gone up to the attic to fetch something or other. She fell down the stairs leading up to it on her way down, though it is popular belief that she was pushed. Who knows.

3) Last year at my secondary school me and my friend became convinced we had a spirit following us.It started in a music lesson. We have practise rooms in our music block (just like small rectangular rooms with a piano or keyboard in them basically.) Mer and my friend were alone in one of theseduring a lesson to practise a little piano piece. We'd just gone in when my friend asked me to turn on the lights and lock the door. I moved towards the light switch when the lights came on by themselves and the door locked itself (although it's been known to do that before). The lights generally take a while to sort of come on, so I just thought she'd switched it on as soon as she came in and had a laugh, but she says she didn't. I'm not sure.. Anyway, we sort of got excited at the thought of a ghost so we started trying to prove it. Other members of the class didn't believe us, so we sat her down with us and asked our ghost to close the fire door of a room about ten metres away. For a few minutes nothing happened, but then the fire door closed slowly. It may have been wind, but surely if so it would have slammed more? Well, she believed in it. She was with us again later. We were walking past an art display of faces made with materials and stuff with stringy hair and stuff. She was saying how she didn't really believe us after all, so my friend asked our ghost to give us a sign that it was there. One of the faces had plaited hair that wasn't really attached very well. A few moments passed and then these plaits began to sort of wave frm side to side gently.

The three of us tried to convince the rest of the form we were telling the truth. One of our form is a wiccan, and she had this pendulum thing which she asked questions too to find out whether we were lying. It seemed we were not and we were being followed by a boy.

Others still didn't believe, but they came and told us a few days later that they'd tried out a pendulum and everything we said it agreed with. They tested it by asking it questions about themselves (ie. do I have a dog? Is he a boy? etc.)

Still not too sure about any of them but it's still a little wierd :)

One more odd thing; at my junior school I noticed footprints on the ceiling.. Wha?

WeasleyIsOurKing
October 5th, 2003, 7:47 pm
I kind of believe in ghosts, but I kind of don't... I haven't really had any experiences, unless you count the bathroom light myteriously turning itself off. My room is directly across the hall from the bathroom, and sometimes I'll leave it on at night when I go to bed. When I close the door, I can see the light shining the space between the door and floor. I'll be tossing and turning in bed, trying to fall asleep, and I look over near my door... and it's dark. I'll get up and open the door... no light. I don't know who turns it off, because I usually go to bed after my mom and sister do, and they both sleep upstairs. My house has creaky, loud stairs and floors, so I would definately hear them coming down the stairs or down the hall towards the bathroom. So I don't know....

I've had some creepy experiences with Ouija boards, too. A few years ago, at my friend's birthday party at a hotel, someone brought their Ouija board. We were all using it, and it told me that I was going to go to hell because I was going to shoot someone sometime during my life. I refused to touch it after that. I don't know if anyone was pushing it or not, but I don't care. Those things creep me out.

Anybody ever been to a haunted place? Like a battlefield or something? I live just by Yorktown, VA (The last battle of the American Revolution). Creepy stuff goes on there!

I've been to Gettysburg... it was during the day, but still... It's kind of creepy to think about the thousands of men who died there...

That cat picture is as easily explained as the chicken one. Everyone knows cats eyes catch any light and reflect it so they can see. Did you by any chance use a flash or have a light facing anywhere near that cat? Sometimes I don't even have a light near my cat and she turns out like that in photos.

My cat's eyes do that all the time. Sometimes my cat, Thompson, will be trotting around the house, looking all sweet and innocent, and then the light will catch his eyes the wrong way and he looks evil.

Tirwen Lupin
October 6th, 2003, 9:34 pm
That cat picture is as easily explained as the chicken one. Everyone knows cats eyes catch any light and reflect it so they can see. Did you by any chance use a flash or have a light facing anywhere near that cat? Sometimes I don't even have a light near my cat and she turns out like that in photos.
Well, I see that happen to my dogs a lot! :lol: It gets annoying in flash photos when they're otherwise looking perfectly cute and angelic. It's the camera and the light, nothing more.

Anyway, back to ghosts... I sort of believe in them. I don't think I've ever really had any experiences with one, but think they do sort of... exist. I guess some people's spirits after they're dead sometimes linger. But I think a lot of "ghost stories" could have an explanation. I'm not saying they're not true, there might just be another reason for it. I don't know, though... if there are ghosts, they do probably do things.

MarcKal
October 11th, 2003, 8:33 pm
My dog always keeps on barking at nothing out of random. Creeps me out :scared: !!!! I believe in ghosts. They're creepy. Anyone have problems with poltergeists?

Disregarded
October 19th, 2003, 2:20 pm
I'd just like to say i dont think ghosts exist, i am a strong atheist and i dont think god exists either but thats not the point in this. I think the two go hand in hand.

Science doesnt exactly try to prove that ghosts dont exist, it tries to prove that they do exist but not in a metaphysical way. It tries to prove that they are perhaps sound waves, hallucinations etc.

In some cases they may be caused perhaps by frontal lobe epilepsy and various other things i am still researching on. (i have to do an essay)

If you do believe, fair enough i have no way to change your mind. I am just pointing out my view. Anyone have anything that does say ghosts exist?

(some of the thread pages wont load, so i havent read everything here. Just incase i repeated or missed something)

riot_girl
October 22nd, 2003, 8:30 am
Today my cat was acting weirdly, again. And it reminded me of this topic on here so I thought what the heck Ill go check up on it!

So today as I was sitting at home alone my cat went into my brothers room and started meowing very loudly. He is a Siamese so it was worse than ever. lol My cat that passed away loved that room. I once went in there and I think I saw him for a split second. So thats what I think it might of been.

Also the other night I was sitting up late with my brother and all of sudden this intense flash of light filled part of the room. It was like a camara going off but the light was eletric blue and it was very load. Almost like lighting. It stayed for a few seconds and dissapered. It was almost like a blue orb. There was no way anything could of caused it at all. It was very strange. I looked outside and it was pitch black out there. It was the most weirdest thing I had seen.

I asked a wiccan about it and she said that it could represent wealth to come. Although it may not be in the form of money. Im still cool with that.

Has anyone else seen something like this? I think its very bizzare and I would love to her others experiences. ;)

Honeydukes
October 22nd, 2003, 6:56 pm
Well, this may be me hallucinating or just going mad or whatever but I'm convinced that my hamsters house (plastic one within the cage) lit up with a flash of yellow light like a camera flash (maybe similar to what you mentioned, though the right colour) for a moment then remained still again. I am also convinced I keep seeing just a quick glimpse of brown light within the cage, although it's all out of the corner of my eye and could just be reflections or whatever (though it's a cage with bars not glass or plastic or anything). The reason I think its plausible is because the cage is second hand, and the previous inhabitant lived in it only for six weeks before it escaped and was eaten by the families cat (I hate cats.. no offense).

Dedalus
October 22nd, 2003, 7:15 pm
I'm sure my old bedroom ... well it wasn't haunted, because I never saw anything, but there was something there and I don't know what. But curiously my mum once said, out of the blue, that she felt weird around my bedroom and the end of hers ... the same places I felt weird around.

It could have just been paranoia or something else subconsciously frightening me, but I'd wake up with the sudden feeling like I had to leave my room. And that feeling wouldn't subside until I did. But I'd be fast asleep and spring awake and not be able to shake this thought out of my head. I also kept seeing weird specks of light, or a tall misty light sweep across the room (the tall light would sometimes hover and then vanish). But it wasn't very nice, whatever it was. I just felt fear, and that I shouldn't be there. It felt weirdly old up in my room and at the end of my mums (only the end, which is weird), like the air wasn't the same as the other rooms.

I also saw my cat. I would have believed the old "it was just you wishing he was still alive" thing, if it weren't for the fact that my other cat watched it go around the room as well. It was just a haze like above a radiator, but cat shaped. It jumped onto the end of my sisters bed (where it often slept), settled down and then after a minute or two jumped off again, stretched and then disappeared. I was watching it, stunned, but also was watching my other cat whose head has been following it as it jumped off the bed.

I've said this earlier, I'm sure, but my mum has seen hundreds of ghosts. She sees proper images too, and not just hazes. The nicest stories she's said were off her dad watching her in her school classroom, when she was a little girl. And my brothers friend, who died, sat in our living room watching my brother and his friends talking - though she didn't tell them that he was sat next to them at the time! She also said that when she was crossing the road to work a little boy held her hand and she just carried on walking. When she'd crossed, he vanished. Perhaps he'd died at the road by being run over, for not holding his mum's hand, and wanted to settle it?

Finch
October 23rd, 2003, 10:10 pm
I think that animals are very intune to wht is going on around them, including things we can't see. My cats stare at the walls all the time.

I just remembered something really creepy thats been happening the last couple weeks. From my bed I can see the top of my stairs. The other day I saw a guy walking up onto the landing. My first reaction was 'Oh, It's dad.' but I was home alone. I looked at him but he was gone. It has happened several times. It's creepy, but not scary really. He's only visable through the corner of my eyes.

Severus Snape1
December 6th, 2003, 7:09 pm
When I was living in San Diego, I saw the ghost of Francisco De Coronado but the only words that parted his lips that I could hear was "De Coronado."
He stood beside my bed, leaning over me and I just laid there looking up at him. He looked so sad. I didn't yell at him, reach out for him or say anything. I just laid there watching his lips move and say "De Coronado" Then he turned and disappeared. I could remember that ruffle around his neck most vividly after waking up in the morning. The first thing I did was scetch a picture of him and I took it to the local library and looked up the name. I didn't have a computer back then.

Francisco Vazquez De Coronado (http://www.desertusa.com/mag98/sep/papr/coronado.html)

lilmissmessy
December 8th, 2003, 6:46 pm
Once upon a time I didnt believe in ghosts but now I do because I have seena ghost and I had a strange encounter.

The first encounter was with my gran who died. I had just got into bed but I was wide awake. I had the curtains open all of a sudden I saw a bright bright light at the window and heard my grans voice (I didnt see her at all) telling me that she had to leave this world but asking me to watch over my mum for her. I was only quite young but I remember it incredibly vividly.

The second time I thought I was asleep, in what I thought was the dream I felt pressure on my legs in bed, opened my eyes and saw an old lady with grey hair and a white nightdress sat on my bed on my legs. I told her to leave me alone and she went. Anyway I was sure it was a dream until I was telling my friend who was staying at the same place but on the floor above the next morning. She had had the exact same experience so either we both had the same dream or we saw a ghost...

Midnightsfire
December 19th, 2003, 7:41 pm
U.K. Castle Cameras Catch Ghostly Visitor

LONDON - Are there ghostly goings-on at Henry VIII's palace, or is that hazy image of a fellow in fancy robes just a bit of Christmas cheer?

Closed-circuit security cameras at Hampton Court Palace, the huge Tudor castle outside London, seem to have snagged an ethereal visitor. Could it be a ghost?

"We're baffled too — it's not a joke, we haven't manufactured it," said Vikki Wood, a Hampton Court spokeswoman, when asked if the photo the palace released was a Christmas hoax. "We genuinely don't know who it is or what it is."

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Wood said security guards had seen the figure in closed-circuit television footage after checking it to see who kept leaving open one of the palace's fire doors.

In the still photograph, the figure of a man in a robe-like garment is shown stepping from the shadowy doorway, one arm reaching out for the door handle.

The area around the man is somewhat blurred, and his face appears unnaturally white compared with his outstretched hand.

"It was incredibly spooky because the face just didn't look human," said James Faukes, one of the palace security guards.

"My first reaction was that someone was having a laugh, so I asked my colleagues to take a look. We spoke to our costumed guides, but they don't own a costume like that worn by the figure. It is actually quite unnerving," Faukes said.

The palace, built in 1525 on the River Thames 10 miles west of central London, is a popular tourist attraction and some of the guides wear costumes of the Tudor period.

Wood said she was hoping people would come forward with similar stories and try to explain the figure.

The palace has been the scene of many dramatic royal events, and already is supposed to have a few ghosts.

King Henry VIII's third wife, Jane Seymour, died there giving birth to a son, and her ghost is said to walk through one of the cobbled courtyards carrying a candle.

Her son, Edward, had a nurse called Sibell Penn who was buried in the palace grounds in 1562. In 1829 her tomb was disturbed by building work, and around the same time an odd whirring noise began to be heard in the southwest wing of the palace. When workmen traced the strange sounds to a brick wall, they uncovered a small forgotten room containing an old spinning wheel, just like the one Penn used to use.

Henry's fifth wife, Catherine Howard, condemned for adultery, was held at the palace under house arrest before her execution at the Tower of London. An 1897 book about the palace says she was reportedly seen, dressed in white and floating down one of the galleries uttering unearthly shrieks.

The palace was once a prison for King Charles I, who later was beheaded, and then home to his nemesis Oliver Cromwell, who briefly ruled when Britain was for a short time a republic. By JACK GARLAND, Associated Press Writer .

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mafiawizard
December 19th, 2003, 8:17 pm
Do u beleive in ghosts ne 1?i do.i`ve had personal ghost experiences my self-every 1 has some won`t admit it it`s like muggles;they`ll go 2 ne lenght to ignore magic.
Hey I believe in ghosts. I did not believe in them before until I became a ghost now as a ghost I know they DO EXICT. For all those people that do not believe in ghosts they are real trust me I am a ghost myself.

lightofmagic
December 22nd, 2003, 8:17 pm
Even though I have seen things happen such as a slipper flip itself over and the hangers in my cupboard slam to one side I am still spectacle about the existence of ghosts. I do not really believe in such things and so try and find a scientific explanation for things, however, I still cannot explain the slipper flipping over in my bedroom and it did happen in such a way as though to suggest someone or something kicked it out of the way.

Azimuth
December 22nd, 2003, 8:27 pm
Hey I believe in ghosts. I did not believe in them before until I became a ghost now as a ghost I know they DO EXICT. For all those people that do not believe in ghosts they are real trust me I am a ghost myself.

Come again?

You're a ghost? How come you're still alive? How do you explain the fact that you're sitting there typing into a computer?

SilverStar
December 22nd, 2003, 9:32 pm
I'm convinced that we have a ghost cat at our house. We have a cat, but sometimes our cat is sleeping or not even in the house and we hear meowing. It's weird. My mom has heard it, too, so I'm not hearing things. We hear meowing, we naturally look at the cat, and he's far away outside. And the meowing is coming from near at hand, like three feet away.

The idea of ghosts scares me, I won't lie to you. My neighbor is wiccan and she had a tv show on all about ghost sightings and it creeped me out. I do believe in them, and I believe that its like the Sixth Sense; they have unfinished business that they need our help with. I've never sure-fire seen one; I could have sworn I did when I was sleeping over at my friend's house in her basement, but I'm not sure. I saw a flash of transparent-whiteness about 3 feet tall. But again it was late.

thinkpink38
February 14th, 2004, 6:25 am
Yeah, I do believe in ghosts. infact I saw one just the other day, he was kind enough to leave his name, which is, Nearly Headless Nick, :p ! No, um, I dont really believe in ghosts, although my cat does do strange things too sometimes, thats not really an indication to anything though.

Charmed
February 15th, 2004, 10:05 am
I have never believed in ghosts. But recently I heard this story that kind of freaked me out.
My mum works in an Aged Care Facility and there is this old man whose wife and two children had died in a fire when he was about 35. Recently a new staff member arrived and new nothing of his tragedy. Her daughter witnissed it. The fire had occurred in his office in a town close to my home. There is now a shoe shop there where his office was. Anyway the daughter was doing stocktake after the shop had closed for the day and she went upstairs to make sure all the windows were closed and there was the mother and two children-ghosts. She totally freaked and would not go back into the store. And when her mother came to lock up for her the upstairs door handle was red hot.
Very spooky.

Tane
March 5th, 2004, 9:16 pm
I do not believe in ghosts. There is no real supporting evidence to state that they exist. For myself to truly accept that there where such things as ghosts then I would need concrete proof of their existence. Being an atheist, if the presence of ghosts where to be proven then my idea of there not being a soul would become questionable. I would have to review some of my own beliefs but luckily there is no sound proof, so I do not have change anything I believe in as yet.

hesdead-dealwithit
March 5th, 2004, 9:55 pm
I agree. Look at it from a scientific point of view - how could there be "extra" that appears after you die, apart from your body? Humans might have a certain essence, or spirit, or soul - it doesn't matter what you call it - that elevates them above animals, but this thing is not a physical attribute.

Honeydukes
March 5th, 2004, 10:23 pm
Yes, But you have to consider the many thousands of witnesses adament of what they've seen. It's hard to disbelieve all of them, all claim they're all liars or hallucinating or anything like that. There's photos too.. admittably these aren't always so convincing, being fairly easy to fake, but..well.. Theres also these phychics or can communicate with spirits.. what's that do you reckon?

I don't know what I believe. When I had my 'ghost experience' at school some cynical classmates tested out the story on a pendulum, which they tested with some simple questions first. They said this told them I was telling the truth, but I'm not sure I was..I wasn't intentionally lying but there were explanations for everything that happened. Another classmate is part of the wiccan religion and generally speaking trustworthy, and she says she often sees ghosts.

Midnightsfire
March 6th, 2004, 2:08 am
*shrugs*

Thousands of sightings, could they all be wrong or something else?

Kinda weird. I just read that in Project Bluebook (Air Force investigations into UFO claims) that of the nearly 12,000 claims, 700 are indeed "unidentified." Which is off-topic but my point isn't.

*winks*

GryffindorGr
March 6th, 2004, 2:28 am
I thought ghosts were just strong signatures from people left behind, like a strong memory that wouldnt go away. Sometimes we have strong emotions that impact us either in a negative or positive way. Don't you get that feeling when you walk into a room or house where there is a good or neutral or even odd feeling? Usually it's from the people who had lived there before and they're still alive.(living somewhere else of course) Even if the owners had passed away years or even centuries ago, it's probably due to their energy signatures left behind.
This strong memory could be in the form of when a person has been abused, tortured or some kind of pain that severely imbeds in their mind. The brain is a powerful unit and without it, the body cannot function.
Although in haunted areas I've been in (they say it's haunted--like those museums they've set up to say it's haunted due to so on and so on...etc) I never see anything but I have "smelled" perfume where there was none before. So maybe with most people the "sight" sensory area is more sensitive to pick up these signatures and for some, like me I suppose, I pick it up by scent.

RubberSoul
March 6th, 2004, 3:02 am
I agree. Look at it from a scientific point of view - how could there be "extra" that appears after you die, apart from your body? Humans might have a certain essence, or spirit, or soul - it doesn't matter what you call it - that elevates them above animals, but this thing is not a physical attribute.
I agree...I just can't see how it could work in the great scheme of things.

That said, when I was younger, I was an adament believer in ghosts, and read so many ghost stories, that I think I got permanently affected by it. I know there's no ghosts, but even so, after my friend told me a ghost story about someone's cheek getting touched by a hand while there was a blackout in his house, I couldn't go to sleep without my blanket over my cheek, just in case. It bothers me that I still have to do this, even though I got over the whole ghost thing.

thinkpink38
March 7th, 2004, 2:19 am
Well, I dont really believe in ghosts, I think a lot of ghost stories can be very exagerrated, but, I do believe in Jins, I dont know if you guys have heard of them, I geuss they are similar to ghosts, not sure...

Drker2000
March 7th, 2004, 2:50 am
When Albert Einstein produced his theory of Relativity, he tried to explain gravity as an attraction between objects in coexisting dimension that was undectable by us humans. If that is true, could there be other coexisting dimensions that contain spiritual beings?

Well, that's part of my explination for ghosts. The other part is religious, and, if you don't want to here it, you can continue discussion with the above statements.


I believe that ghosts are demons for these reasons:

1. They have a similar behaviour pattern.
Demons usually trick people, try to make them fearful, try to destroy their lives; most stories I've heard about ghosts are very similar.

2. Half of the time ghosts are invisible. And, in Christian perspective, demons are invisible.

Hope you're not offended, because you shouldn't be.

lily1993
March 7th, 2004, 5:39 am
I hate talking about ghosts. :shivers: Gives me the creeps. But in Malaysia, you see ghosts ALL the time so you have to get used to it. But i hate it. How ever, I don't deny that there is such things as ghosts.

thinkpink38
March 7th, 2004, 3:24 pm
I believe that ghosts are demons for these reasons:

1. They have a similar behaviour pattern.
Demons usually trick people, try to make them fearful, try to destroy their lives; most stories I've heard about ghosts are very similar.

2. Half of the time ghosts are invisible. And, in Christian perspective, demons are invisible.

Hope you're not offended, because you shouldn't be.

That sounds reasonable, however, demons are as you said just evil, where as Ghosts, or in my case, Jin isnt. In the Islamic perspective, there are two types of jins, there is the good jin and the bad jin. Besides all that, taken from a religiuos point of view, its stated in our Quran that the Jin and the demon are not the same but they are alike in some ways.


lily1993, my friend told me the same thing, are you serious you actually see them?! In Yemen there are jins also, but the majority are good jins.

Drker2000
March 7th, 2004, 8:30 pm
That sounds reasonable, however, demons are as you said just evil, where as Ghosts, or in my case, Jin isnt. In the Islamic perspective, there are two types of jins, there is the good jin and the bad jin. Besides all that, taken from a religiuos point of view, its stated in our Quran that the Jin and the demon are not the same but they are alike in some ways.


lily1993, my friend told me the same thing, are you serious you actually see them?! In Yemen there are jins also, but the majority are good jins.If that's you perspective, I don't mind. I won't argue because that's getting off topic. I'd rather have more discussion on what I posted before the religious stuff.

Midnightsfire
March 7th, 2004, 11:08 pm
Ironic that jinn and demons are mentioned. They have the same origins.

Genii is a guardian/attendant spirit of a sort.

Demon or daemon (daimon) is pretty much the same thing.

They both are related to inspiration and one's conscience.

lily1993
March 28th, 2004, 10:10 am
Do you siriusly want to know what I've been going through my whole eleven years of life? It's not a pretty story, I assure you.

Chartreuse
March 31st, 2004, 2:31 pm
I haven't encountered any, and I wouldn't want to. I just might freak out.... so whenever I feel scared I just pray. I believe there really are, they just roam the earth 'coz they're 'lost souls'. I've read and heard many accounts... but telling ghost stories with friends in a campfire beats anything else :)

Honeydukes
April 3rd, 2004, 12:37 pm
Well lily1993, I would actually. Sounds like an interesting account you might have..

Tane
April 3rd, 2004, 7:02 pm
I do not believe in ghosts because to me humans have no soul. No soul no ghost. We just die and that is that. Nothing great happens to us and nothing bad, you just finally have peace and quiet.

thethirdman
April 3rd, 2004, 10:11 pm
lily1993, it's likely that I'll believe you if you told yourr story. Now it is your choice whether you want to tell or not, no one can force you. Just remember that you aren't alone. I've been having encounters with ghosts both good and bad as long as I can remember. The good accounts make fun stories to tell and the bad ones are enough to give me chills in July.

MarcKal
April 4th, 2004, 12:43 am
Tane, you have offended my religion!

thinkpink38
April 4th, 2004, 11:02 pm
Many of you are saying you have been encountered by ghosts, i'm just wondering, as I have never been encountered by one, you dont really see it do you? Like, I know you cant see the jinn, because their invisible, I geuss,so you just see things that begin flying around or something?

Is it that bad lily1993? Oh, and Markal, no she hasnt offended your religion, that is her opinion, no need to get offended.

MarcKal
April 4th, 2004, 11:04 pm
Sorry, I'm just VERY religious. See, souls are a big part of my religion.

Lupin_Lady
April 5th, 2004, 1:43 am
Well, I must say I believe in ghosts, but I have never seen one.
See there is this place in my counrty called Port Arthur. Many years ago it was a prison colony, then later, it became a tourist attraction.
About 7 years ago, there was a massacre there and i think 13 people died.
I went there last year and there were all these photos on a notice board, and you could see shadowy people in buildings that were so dilapidated that they were off limits to the public, and even the staff.
My friend took a photo in the church there, and there was a shadow of a person walking across a corridor. But we were definately the only people in there. It only showed up in the photo, because I was looking at the same spot as she took the photo. It wasn't a trick of light of development, because it was the guy in the photo developing store that pointed it out to us.

draco's girl
April 5th, 2004, 6:43 pm
I never used to believe in ghost, until about 3 years ago.
I was round my friends house, and he lives in a massive house which is really old, and we were playing in the paddock by the stables, and when i ran over to them, i felt a cold hand touch my bk, but me and my friend were the only one's there and he was over the other side of the paddock! But also, in the same house, in the dining room, we were all sitting at the table, and then the light suddenly started flickering, and then a wine glass on the side table toppled over!
I was terrified, and i still havent gone back to that house, I make my friend come over to my house!

lily1993
April 6th, 2004, 10:16 am
I would rather prefer not to say, but if you are interested, there is something called PM you know.

thethirdman
April 7th, 2004, 4:57 am
If any of you guys would like, I'll be willing to share some of my own experiences. You'll get some decent stories and lily1993 doesn't have to feel presured to talk about hers.

hesdead-dealwithit
April 8th, 2004, 3:21 am
I'd love to hear about your experiences (and try to poke holes in your stories, as I don't believe in ghosts :D).