What things do you expect to be cut from GoF? What parts are you willing to let go?

[Spike]

After PoA i am fairly certain that GoF will be trimmed down as well so i am wondering what your thoughts are on what will be cut and what you wouldn't mind seeing be cut. For me i expect them to cut alot of the Harry/Ron feud. Also i expect they will cut alot of the Harry/Hermoine banter in the library. But GoF is my favorite HP book and i really hate to see it get cut at all. They could trim all the parts when HP and co are in classes and let us keep the Ball, the tournament, and the HP/Ron feud.

[Josiah45]

yule ball is gone

[Spike]

yule ball is gone


That would be a shame. I think that the typical high school dance while torturous is also a right of passage that JK handled beautifully.

[Josiah45]

I think she'll cut the numerous parts where rita gets dirt on them.

[Frankie Inkblot]

The Yule Ball is essential to the Hermione/Krum/Ron thing. There's no way they'll cut it out of the film, people are too invested in seeing who Hermione ends up with.

I'm assuming most of the who's who at the World Cup to be whittled down into certain very specific people. For example, kept to Crouch, Fudge, and Ludo Bagman.

Unlike Quidditch, I'm pretty sure all of the Triwizard tasks will be shown.

[Spike]

I think she'll cut the numerous parts where rita gets dirt on them.

Yeah you are right. Rita is gonna go under the knife. I bet they cut the opening bad as well. You know the part at the Quidditch World Cup. Fleur will not get much screen time either. Too bad.

[Josiah45]

They could do the yule ball thing in two seconds. she sits with krum at an event or someting and pretties herself up or something and ron gets mad.

[Frankie Inkblot]

I think Newell, king of sap, will probably keep in lots of Hermione and Ron and Hermione and Krum, just because he knows the audience is so looking forward to it. I'm sure there will be at least some focus on Harry and Ron worrying about who they'll take to the ball.

That whole storyline about Madame Maxime and Hagrid will more than likely get cut out.

Sorting, Hogwarts Express, the time between when Dumbledore tells the school about the Triwizard Cup and the Goblet of Fire will be cut out completely (that's just my guess).

[Kelfa21]

yule ball is gone


I agree....just like they took out quidditch almost entirly...the Yule Ball may be out

Possibly large sections of The Qudditch cup....most of the stuff between Sirius and Harry...the Pensieve....I may go as far as saying they may take out the second task (the underwater thing) all together

[carparker]

I hope they're going to make it right and if the movie is 3 1/2 hours long then so be it. I've heard that the Dursleys are gone for sure. I'm fairly certain that the Quidditch Cup will be trimmed considerably, as will much of Rita Skeeter and perhaps Hagrid/Maxine. However, I'm also certain that all three Triwizard tasks will be included, as will the Yule Ball. I also doubt that they will cut DD's explanation of the Goblet itself. That is a little too important to leave out. But then again... they never explained Padfoot, Prongs, Wormtail and Moony in PoA.

[RemusLupinFan]

I think I heard somewhere that the Dursleys and the World Cup were going to be cut out. I might be wrong though...I hope they do the World Cup and the Yule Ball, but because the book is so long, it's hard to tell what they'll have to leave out.

[Spike]

I hope they don't cut the scene with Ron humiliated by Fleur but i am sure they will. :upset:

[Josiah45]

Or the scene where dobby visit Harry with the gillyweed

[Da_Chinkster]

I hvae to say I find it difficult to see how both the Yule ball and the World cup. Maybe they'll have two very watered down versions of them. I am hoping that they have a four hour film just so that most of the story remains. Even with a long film I think they'll still have to cut out a bit

[RoadSafetyGirl]

You can definitely condense a lot of the Qudditch Cup and turn the GOF tournament from a yearly thing to a much shorter one, nor do I think you need all the SPEW stuff (unless JKR declares it significant) and just have them meeting Winky and Dobby.
I think the only thing you really can't leave out is all the stuff with the three tasks. fake Moody and Voldemorts return.
I also think if they follow the last film, the Viktor/Hermione/Ron triangle (H/Hr shippers - I'm not supporting R/Hr, merely think that will be made a big thing of in the film) will be played out as will the Cho/Cedric/Harry one so the Yule Ball will have to stay.
Personally I'd much rather have the heavy Dursleys/World Cup front half of the book cut in favour of the end stuff which is far more dramatic.

[Deliah]

I remember that I read a while back that the Dursleys will be cut out completely.
Other than that:
- parts of the Quidditch World Cup
- Hogwards express, sorting ...
- arrival of the students from the other schools
- the ball
- the story with Rita
- Hagrid / Maxime
- the SPEW stuff
- the twins "blackmailing" Bagman
- shorten the graveyard scene

[Josiah45]

unfortunately I think that's right

[Sweetie]

I don't think that any major scenes from the book will be cut. Condensed, definitely, but I don't think they'll cut anything important out. A few lines here or there and probably not spend too much time on any one thing, though.

[Erundur]

I remember that I read a while back that the Dursleys will be cut out completely.
Other than that:
- parts of the Quidditch World Cup
- Hogwards express, sorting ...
- arrival of the students from the other schools
- the ball
- the story with Rita
- Hagrid / Maxime
- the SPEW stuff
- the twins "blackmailing" Bagman
- shorten the graveyard scene

That could be a possiblity, but I don't believe that they will not shorten any part of the Graveyard scene, but the speech given by Dumbledore towards the end of the book where he maeks a speech about Cedric Diggory. I believe that parts of the Quidditch world cup will be cut, like when the match is happening we might just cut to the part where viktor finds the snitch and catches it and his team wins the cup instead of the rest of the match. I would like to see parts of the Yule ball, maybe we might see a few shots and thats it. SPEW would get cut off, unless JKR has major plans for it in the rest of the series. Of course the Rita Stuff would be cutt off. Hagrid/Maxime would also, but I would like to see where Hagrid makes a comment saying that Maxime might be a Giant. The Part where the tri-wizard contestants would take there pictures, for the Daily Prophet and we see the guy from the wand shop.

Just Saying.

[rotsiepots]

Rita Skeeter will be around, but her role will be significantly reduced. Same thing with SPEW -- it might not even get a mention, unless it becomes highly significant in future books. The treatment of house-elves in the magical world should be dealt with, but you can do this without having Hermione making badges and the like.

I think the main focus of the film will be the Triwizard Tournament and the return of Voldemort. At least, that what the main focus should be.

[PiCkLeS4WeAsLeY]

yule ball is gone

Omg, I really, really hope that the Yule Ball isn't gone! That was like my fav. part of GOF! I am a HUGE Weasley/Hermione shipper, & that was such pivatal W/H moment! I loved her: "Next time there's a Ball ask me before someone else does and not as a last resort!" I really wanted to see that in the movie! And see Weasley all jealous over her & Krum.

[Josiah45]

grrrr....They are taking out the BEST part. The Yule Ball is so cool. and i bet they won't show the Quiddich World Cup either!:mad:

[madeyebeckie]

oh it's so hard to think about what they'll cut from #4! they already cut too much from POA, but that was still an awesome movie(that i will see for the 3rd time, tomorrow). i personally, EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD BE HELL TO WAIT AGAIN, think that they should split GOF into 2 movies. absolute torture seeing a first half and then having to wait for the second, but it would make it less likely to cut out awesome parts that may not be as important.

[madeyebeckie]

they had better NOT take out the underwater part! i want my mermaids!

[KnightBusRider]

I am going to make a bet that they will not cut out the underwater scene, simply because of what Daniel said in the EW interview about having to take scuba diving lessons and doing a month of underwater shooting. I mean, that would be a month wasted if they took it out. I don't think they'll cut any of the tournament. Also, I don't know how in the world they would have made this into two movies - wouldn't that pretty much have been cutting the tournament in half?

[RubberSoul]

Same thing with SPEW -- it might not even get a mention, unless it becomes highly significant in future books. The treatment of house-elves in the magical world should be dealt with, but you can do this without having Hermione making badges and the like.
I think they could actually do SPEW in the way they did the whole Crookshanks versus Scabbers dynamic in the POA movie. For example, it could be explained to Harry as he comes in on them arguing about it, and during the remainder of the movie, it could crop up in Ron and Hermione's arguments as a source of comedy. And of more sexual tension between them.;)

Omg, I really, really hope that the Yule Ball isn't gone! That was like my fav. part of GOF! I am a HUGE Weasley/Hermione shipper, & that was such pivatal W/H moment! I loved her: "Next time there's a Ball ask me before someone else does and not as a last resort!" I really wanted to see that in the movie! And see Weasley all jealous over her & Krum.
That's the understatement of the year...But I can't see Rupert Grint saying that line the way we all picture it. It'll come out distorted.

[Codemastar]

Well, seeing as the book is pretty long, they're going have to seriously think about the cuts they make. They are probably going to keep the Yule Ball in. They should cut some parts from the third task. They might have to cut some classes, as well as most of the studying Harry and Hermione do together. They're going to have to cut the length of the World Cup, with the tents and everything. They're going to have to cut characters from the World Cup, and they're going to have to shorten the time that Harry spends looking for the people underwater.

As for scenes they have to keep in, they have to keep the scene were Harry sees Crouch, Jr. on the map, they should have at least the Dursleys when the Weasleys come through the fire place, they have to keep Priori Incantem, as well as the Dragon scene. They must keep the part where Barty Crouch attacks Cedric (I think it was Cedric). They have to include beetle scenes, as well as the ferret scene :rotfl: . And the end, after the train ride, they have to include that, you know, the kiss, H/H, just so I can gloat against the R/H's who have been going crazy with Prisoner of Askaban :upset:.

[HPFan731]

I'm re-reading GOF now and I hate to say it, but they could easily take out almost the whole beginning pretty much right up until they get to the World Cup. Nothing at Privet drive is important, even though I would LOVE to see Dudley eat the Tongue Toffey and the Weasley's explode into the Dursley's living room, it isn't important to the story and they are going to need all the extra time they can get for everything else.

I can't see removing the whole Yule Ball because it is essential to what is going on between Ron and Hermoine. Ron not recognizing Hermoine and being of jealous of Krum, ect...I imagine it will be cut way down, but they can't leave it out all together....but then again who knows...


Lisa

[Da_Chinkster]

take scuba diving lessons and doing a month of underwater shooting. I mean, that would be a month wasted if they took it out.


WOuldnt have been a waste of timne for Radcliffe because SCUBA is cool. However yes I dont think he would have learnt it if he didnt have to do the underwater scene

[meg2101]

I certainly hope that they keep the Yule Ball in. I really enjoyed how annoyed Ron was, and that really plays into the fact that he and Hermione should end up. And I also thought it showed Harry's early feelings for Cho.

I've heard a lot of rumors that they'll be making two installments. I personally, being a huge fan, wouldn't mind a 5 hour movie, but SOME picky people have to go to the bathroom now and then, so I don't think they'll get away with only one movie without very bad complaints on mine and many others part.

[Bood]

I wouldn't be suprised if they started the movie with the Quidditch World cup since they won't have the Dursleys. Then they could jump to Dumbledore explaining the TriWizard Tournament. I would think that they will have to have the part about Harry getting selected since he wasn't suppose to be part of it. As much as others would like to see the Yule ball, I could see them cutting it in favor of the tournament. I don't see the need for Rita Skeeter as it is a minor part of the story but it would be nice if they could include it. Then, of course, you have to have the confrontation between Harry and Voldemort. I see alot of the smaller stories getting cut but I think it will depend on how Newell whats to put the film together.

[Da_Chinkster]

oooo one thing i did forget about the world cup was that there was the dark mark at the home and all the chaos which was a pretty big part of the story so the world cup will probably be shown. Which means it doesnt look good for the yule ball.

[KnightBusRider]

One thing I hope they do not cut is any of the Riddle house. For me, this was the most frightning chapter of all the books so far. Now, I have a couple of questions that have been bugging me: one, if they cut the Dursley's out of the movie, will Harry automatically be with the Weasley's some how before the World Cup? Also, do you think it is possible that they will cut Cedric out of the film all together? Or do you think this is too important to the whole Harry/Cho dynamic? Part of me thinks they will cut his part, another part of me thinks that it would ruin way too many elements in the story. I just got to thinking about it when his name wasn't introduced in this last film (but then again, neither was Cho).

[Neptune]

I would be kind of surprised up to this point if they didn't have the Yule Ball. I mean, for two movies now they have been hinting towards a kind of " sexual tension" between Ron and Hermione, which we don't actually see until GOF, during the Yule Ball.

This part in GOF is what Steven Kloves ( the screenplay writer) and both Columbus and Cuarón have now hinted on in both COS and POA. So if this scene in GOF, which has played a part in two of the movie scripts so far, isn't played out when it originally happens in the books, then something really wrong with Steven Kloves!

[Katarzyna]

I think that a great deal of Goblet of Fire can either be elimated or seriously shortened in the movie.

That could be a possiblity, but I don't believe that they will not shorten any part of the Graveyard scene, but the speech given by Dumbledore towards the end of the book where he maeks a speech about Cedric Diggory.
As much as I'd like to see all this in the movie, I can't be sure they'll keep it in. After eliminating most of the Marauder explanation in the PoA movie, I no longer have faith that the movie makers care about the HP arc, or the important happenings in the HP universe.

[SilverStar]

I would be willing to let the Yule Ball go, although I'd really like to see it.

Basically anything but the three tasks, Moody's unforgivable curses class, and bouncing ferret is subject to being cut in my book. I'd probably cut Rita Skeeter.

[HPFan731]

I agree about Rita not being essential to GOF, but don't you think they might have to put some of her story, rather than cutting it altogether, to use in OOTP? Since Hermoine "blackmails" Rita in OOTP into helping them? JK nixed cutting Trewlaney out of POA maybe she'll do the same for Rita? :huh:

Lisa

[meg2101]

I certainly don't think they'd cut Cedric out completely. Even if he doesn't have a huge part, I would love to see this guy who's described as 'strikingly handsome' and 'the most handsome boy in school'. I've been anticipating worshipping him for a month now! :D

I'm not sure that there's a whole lot of "sexual tension" between Ron and Hermione other than Ron being a big prat, and Hermione making a good choice. I do hope they end up together though, they'd make quite a, erm, strange couple. :)

[Ranador]

I'd say the House Elf stuff will probably be neglected. And the visit to the Weasley's, I imagine it will be straight to the World Cup from the Dursley's then straight to the train.

Also probably the challenge with the merpeople will be left out.


I think the following has to be kept, for the reasons I will give.

Dragon Challenge - Cuaron had the firebolt at the end of PoA, instead of neglecting it completely. That leads me to believe that they plan to use it in GoF, which means the Dragon Challenge will be seen. Also, it would closely resemble a Quidditch match, and would be easier for them to make. They only have to show Harry flying on his broom, and not deal with CG for the other competitors and many merpeople.

Yule Ball - Warner Brothers is playing up this Hermione/Ron idea much more than the books ever describe it, how could they ignore the few parts that were actually written in to be clues that there is something between those two.

Maze Challenge - I think this is a necessity, though it will probably be trimmed down alot.

Portkey - I don't think much after Cedric and Harry are portkeyed to the cemetary can be left out at all.

[Daniela]

Ron's little green monster in the film and how horrible it made Harry feel not having his best friend believe him because Ron may once again do the same to Harry in the future. Have to keep the Yule Ball because it is part of being a teenager, plus I want to see Hermione as queen. They can probably start with the Riddle House a night before the Cup, take five minutes with the Cup and jump straight into the goblet sorting (should keep Fred and George's white beards scene) spend about an hour on the tasks and take the rest with the graveyard. Moony should take the prominence Lupin took in POA as every DADA professor does. Rita should be kept as this book began showing the real weight Harry has to carry on his shoulders, being placed on a pedestal so that people can have a shot at making him fall. Also I would keep Cuaron's Hogwarts exterior sets as they do give the story the mistery it deserves.

[Rhanebeaux]

The three tasks: I think they will have to be in there. The whole book revolves around this.

Yule Ball: I agree with Ranador....they are playing up Ron and Hermione. Also someone said they would cut the Maxime and Hagrid scene, But i don't think they can. This allows us to know that Hagrid is half giant, and this is a rather large part of OotP. I think they have to have it in there. Grawp is the reason they get rid of Umbridge. No Hagrid/Maxime scene, no giant talk. No giant talk, no "secrets mission" for Hagrid and Maxime. No "secret mission", no Grawp. No Grawp, no getting rid of Umbride, and we can't let that happen!! They may take liberties though. Sticking in a radom fact about Hagrid being a giant....

Classes: most classes will be cut, maybe just a few of CoMC and potions, maybe some divination as well.

Portkey: I think thats obvious...it has to be there...all of it.

S.P.E.W.: must be gone, to much of a side story, unless it holds a major roll in Books 6 or 7.

Ron/Harry fight: Ron/Hermione fight was almost completly cut from POA movie, so this will probely be gone.

Dursleys: Heard rumor it is not even being filmed.....

Bouncing ferret: since they put Hermione's punching Draco in POA, i think they have to have this in GoF...that and fan's would really lose it if they left it out....

Riddle house: Probely very short scene...

Bertha: Prolly only mentioned in passing...

Quidditch world cup: Has to be there for the Dark Mark scene, but i don't think they will linger on it too long. Maybe 5 min of Quidditch, showing the way males react to Veelas and then skip to the night in the forest with the dark mark in the sky....

Winky: She has to be in there somewhere, prolly early on, showing the wand steeling scene...

Dobby: I hope they don't cut Dobby, but they could. He only helps Harry with the 2nd task and they could change that like they did in SS movie (Hermione finding it in a book, rather then Harry reading Flamels name off a FWW card.)

GoF is my fave book, and i hope they don't butcher it....:(

[Mikig]

I don't think they will take out the underwater challenege because Moaning martyl helps harry figure out the clue and Rowling said martyl will be back in the nexy books.
The things that can and probably will be taken off, without damaging the whole story i think would include:
The invitation to the burrow segment
cut down on the weasleys wizard wheezes
briefly explain th portkey
Cut down some of the wrold cup ( like when they go around looking at the tents and saying hi to their friends)
reduce the howgarts express to the necessary ( after all the train has been key in the first 3 and probably will be key in the next)
CUt down the triwizard speech
take off the dramatic entance of the other schools ( just say that they arrived)
the "four champins could be done shortly
The whole waiting of the wands and photos can be gone, except for the importance of harry's wand
Hagrid's "cheatin" on showing the dragons ( in the movie would be better just to come to the challenege without knowing what it is
i think the yule ball is important bu t can be conisdeably cut down
and the rest leave most opf it with exception of the non-essential parts

[ts7200]

-The dursleys will be gone

-SPEW will be done in passing if at all

-The World Cup will be cut down to meeting crouch/bagman probably they will talk in the box only, I'd suspect there will be nothing of the tent scene.

-All 3 tasks will be shown for sure, they are way too important to leave out at all. The might be chopped down a bit but will not be cut.

-I'd agree that the yule ball will be done: probably like a bit before like harry asking cho I bet, they seem to be keying on harry's teenage angst in the movies. then maybe the opening dance and thats about it.

The one part I'm not sure will happen but would like to see happen is part of the Ron/Harry thing, I think it would be stupid to leave it out because its a huge part of the book. The one scene id love to see on the big screen would be when Harry throws the Potter stinks badge at Ron and says "maybe you will get a scar, thats what you want isn't it?" I think thats a huge line in the book!

[potterfreak]

[QUOTE=ts7200The one scene id love to see on the big screen would be when Harry throws the Potter stinks badge at Ron and says "maybe you will get a scar, thats what you want isn't it?" I think thats a huge line in the book![/QUOTE]

Yeah, I would really miss that part. It's a huge one.
But I'm afraid, they will cut the whole fight between harry and ron.

I think that some parts will only taken into the movie "in passing" like the spew-thing, for example: harry is practicing curses and spells while hermione is knitting some hats or everytime we see rita skeeter only is somewhere in the background, so she is there but doesn't "waste time" for more important parts.

well and I hope they won't cut the bathroom-scene with harry and the moaning myrtle!!! this would be a good laugh for sure!!! :rotfl: :rotfl:

the yule ball is an absolutely must!!! I mean, I can't wait so see the blushing, clumpsy and helpless harry dance. :rotfl:

I'm really looking forward to the graveyard scene. but I fear that they will cut many things for the ratings (wormtail cutting off his hand, ...)
I'm really curious about the crucio-curse ...

[Sylestian]

I definately hope they don't cut Sirius too short and I doubt they will play too much into Mad Eye though I hope they show the cursed spiders so people who haven't read the book will know which spell is which. Probably show a little bit of Dumble. thoughts so people can make a connection on who Mad Eye really is. All three challenges, definately. Yule ball maybe would be nice, but probably cut short and to the point. Maybe for humor show the twins trying to put there name in the goblet, but not everyone. Just some thought.

[tonks181]

maybe some of thepensieve trials won't make the cut, in fact all trials other than barty crouch's.then the part about hagrid's history,the world cup final,and maybe one of the tasks(presumably the underwater one), and i can't remember ,'s been long since i read GoF

[Sylestian]

The challenges will be too much of a crowd pleaser for those who are not really that interested in HP but get dragged along, so honestly it would be quite stupid to merge/write them off. Visual effects could blow people away if done right...plus there would be too many hard-core fans highly upset. I would glad set and watch GoF for three and a half hours.

[Sylestian]

And I think people will slaughter the directors career alive if he leaves out Harry's parents coming out of Voldemorts wand.

[kittyboy]

They can skip most of the Q. World Cup and condense Rita and I'm sure they will keep most of the Yule Ball but I won't be surprised if the the part of Harry and Ron overhearing Snape and Karkarof talking in the rose bushes will be cut or redirected
to take place else were :sad: .
Kittyboy

[herbertsandbach]

SPEW can go,I hated that in the book so boring
The ferret thing can be sacrificed
Quidditch World cup needs to be in but kept to a minimum
The Dursleys can be sacrificed this time so we can have more Weasley time
The Dursleys will have a larger role in OOTP.
Rita shd be in but again a minimum

Essentials
1.The Burrow
2.3 tasks
3.Penseive
4.Graveyard

Would enjoy Yule ball and although unlikely wud like a few more small scenes
showing Herbology (Bubotuber Pus),Transfiguration(Pin cushion/Hedgehog)...
I feel its the classroom scenes that give the school its school feeling. Unlikley I know .....more boys dorm antics,famous 5 ...

[potterfreak]

I just read the july-empire-magazine. there's an interview with dan where he talks about the GOF-movie. I hope it's authentic ...

He states that the script is really horrific.

The first two tasks (dragons and underwater) will definitely be in the movie because he says he's not really looking forwart to the dragons-scene because flying a broom is not very comfortable. (well, I really believe him although I'm not a man ;-)))) )

He does scuba-diving at the moment for the underwater-sequence. (Naturally it's in the movie then)

He's most looking forwart to the graveyard-scene, where harry gets tortured and cedric will die from one second to another.

He says this movie is gonna be an amazing thriller ...

... well, I'm sure it will be ...

[RubberSoul]

One thing I hope they do not cut is any of the Riddle house. For me, this was the most frightning chapter of all the books so far.
I hope that's kept in too. It would be a great way of opening the movie. Then they could have Harry could wake up at the Burrow, instead of at Privet Drive, perhaps the day school starts. I'm not sure if anyone's said this yet, but the whole part before arriving at Hogwarts isn't exactly necessary to the plot. If you have a good scriptwriter, he can introduce characters and explain things like the Dark Mark easily within dialogue. I don't want it to be cut out, but seeing as it's a regular length movie a lot of stuff will be shuffled in as a background story. We probably won't see any of the trials through the Pensieve. There probalby won't be any Hogsmeade. Maybe one or two classroom scenes, and it's a fair enough guess that it'll be the one where Moody talks about the Unforgivable curses.

Is it possible to cut out any of the tasks without ruining the story?

[hollygo72]

Well since Mike Newell's strong point is romantic comedy (Four Weddings & A Funeral) all the Ron/Hermione/Krum and Harry/Cho/Cedric romantic teen angst will be left in. Most likely played up heavily. That includes the Yule Ball.

Anything with really cool action sequence and special effects will be left in. So that underwater stuff is in. Maze in, etc...

Minor subplots will be barely mentioned if mentioned at all. The only minor subplots left in will be because Rowling tells them that it's significant to future stories.

[michaela]

I heard a rumour that they were planning to put the three tasks of the Triwizard Tournement into one. That would just be really bad! They should definitely not cut out the Yule Ball. I think they should make the film longer if they can't fit it all in.

[Spike]

As much as I'd like to see all this in the movie, I can't be sure they'll keep it in. After eliminating most of the Marauder explanation in the PoA movie, I no longer have faith that the movie makers care about the HP arc, or the important happenings in the HP universe.


I sadly agree.

[Neon Phoenix]

I hvae to say I find it difficult to see how both the Yule ball and the World cup. Maybe they'll have two very watered down versions of them. I am hoping that they have a four hour film just so that most of the story remains. Even with a long film I think they'll still have to cut out a bit


Making it into a four hour film is the worst thing they could do. If you want to experience everything from the book, just read the book, but the movie should be kept at a reasonable length, preferably under three hours, even if cool stuff has to get cut. The more important issue is what must NOT be cut.

[Kaela]

I could let the Yule Ball go. I mean, it does very little for the plot - the R/Hrs would have a field day with it, I know - but otherwise... What I don't want to see cut is any of the tasks. If they must cut, the first can go. The second is too cool and the third is too crucial.

[Rainbowfairy]

I think they should cut out out the elf liberation club thing otherwise everything else should be kept!

[harripottrfreek]

The Yule Ball is going to be short...probably the part with Draco being turned into a ferret...um the Dursleys are gone. The Quidditch Cup will be shortened...the portkey will be gone. Um...they could take out the weighing of the wands, maybe finding out about the dragons will be different. The bathroom scene will be shorter. SPEW will most likely be gone. Rita if not cut will be small and not important. Hagrid and MM. The explanation of "Moody" will be shortened...the penesive could be shorter or gone. Dobby and Winky will be short, the tasks will all be there just focused on Harry though. We won't see the others perform most likely, just hear results.

[Renaissance]

You know, I may be being frighteningly - and reproachfully - optimistic (which isn't very innate, I'm sad to say) , but I think that Quidditch World Cup, 3 Tasks, Rita Skeeter, Winky, Dobby, Yule Ball will be shown, with varying degrees of emphasis.

I read an interview with Daniel Radcliffe recently who said the script for GoF was brilliant and he marvelled at how they managed to condense MOST of the lengthy novel into a single movie. :eyebrows: Quidditch World Cup is crucial because of the Death Mark and the introduction of foreign wizards and wizarding schools. Needless to say, Winky(especially) and Dobby are both vital as well.
The way I see it, if approximately US$350 million has been invested for its production, lots of CGI et al will be incorporated into the film, from World Cup to the grandoise arrival of Beauxbatons and Durmstrangs to the 3 tasks. The 3 tasks won't take very long in all, perhaps 30 - 40 minutes of the entire flick? Rita is pretty important. JK Rowling said she had to cut out a Weasley cousin (who was insignificant) and replace her with Rita to be the purveyor of information crucial to the plot. In fact I heard a rumour (or was it fact?) that she had been cast already.
Yule Ball - very necessary - as it shows the state of the relationship between Hermione, Ron, Harry, Patils(that's probably why they got cast), and Krum. And don't forget Cho and Cedric. I think in this movie, most of Cho's dialogue will be when Harry asks her to the ball and she has to reject.
Madame Maxime and Hagrid are pretty important (AGAIN) because we learn more of giants (Book 5 will then usher GRAWP in whom JK Rowling said was important, too.) Yes, I know - bloody hell - every **** things seems vital...

I also hope they keep in the spine-chilling introduction to the book. It'll be odd and disconcerting if Wormtail and Voldermort miraculously spring out at the end.

Whatever it is, it's in the directors hands to manage this masterpiece skillfully and incorporate the abandoned chunks of info on Marauder's Map into this one (I read this somewhere - it's supposed to be true indeed). All we can do is wait and feast on the scraps of insider information to be flung onto MuggleNet in the coming 16 months.

So. Here's the to the best for GoF! *Raises Goblet* *Cha-Cheeeeeng!*

[Addicted2Potter]

**Not to get off subject here, and I am aware that this is not a POA thread, BUT**
To be quite honest, I think they cut out way to darn much out of POA. :upset: So I'm just hoping and praying that they don't butcher this one too. My boyfriend who has never read the books was COMPLETELY lost when he watched it. He kept asking... now why did that happen, how did they get here... why?

Who's directing Goblet of Fire anyway? Have they released that yet?? I am agreence with you all when you say that cutting the yule ball and the cup is just stupid. I think they might do well with trimming down the time it takes Harry to figure out the 2nd clue, and trim down the end when "he who must not be named" comes to play. I'm not talking COMPLETELY here, but just slim it down a bit. If I remember correctly, he spends a few pages waiting for the Death Eaters to show. I don't see them though, cutting the part out when the people who were killed shoot out of his wand and help Harry. That would just ruin it...

[David C]

well GOF is going to be at least 4 hours long so i dont see them cutting to much important stuff out and i think the director is Mike Newell

[Rhanebeaux]

Where did youi hear that? i thought they were keeping it to 2 1/2 hours like the first 3....I hope your right! GoF is my fave book of the 5 and I don't want to see it butcherd! I've always wondered if people who didn't read the book were confused...i would think so!

[Addicted2Potter]

*sigh* I can't find hardly any info on the GoF film, so I have no clue as to what is true or not. I just know that the actors who play Harry, Ron, and Hermoine are the same! :D YAY!

[Neon]

Personally; even as a general movie goer, the longer the film the better (More bang for my buck, right?). So personally i couldn't see any problems with making the movie a minimum of 3 hours (Noone seemed too troubled at the length of LOTR after all); and as such i greatly hope thats a minimum. The longer they make it, the greater chance they avoid leaving gaping holes in plot.

Fair enough; cut out the Dursley's, thats simple. Infact as a writer, i could almost invision myself starting off in the middle of the world cup game. That way they can easily continue to the appearance of the Dark Mark; see Winky struggle, get fired, and all that jazz.

Have a nice pan shot of the Hogwarts express, then take them straight to the great Hall where the Beauxbaton and Durmstrang could already be there, and Dumbledore could emphasise the Tournament at the beginning of Term without losing too much.

I can warrant the Yule ball being there, but only as a way to get across that Hagrid's a giant...

Come to think of it... This is what 'i' would do, not what i think 'they' will do... I need to re-evaluate this...

[Flee's]

[remusjlupin1980]

The Portkey will still be there. It's important to the plot.

[Hermyownniny]

I reckon the fight between Ron and Harry will be almost non-existent, since they didn't even show much of the fight between Ron and Hermione in PoA.
Hagrid's bit with Madam Maxine will also probably be cut, and Rita Skeeter's. The parts where Harry is working out the clues will be shortened, and the bits where Barty Crouch kills his father.

Seriously, it'll be more like a whirlwind than an actual movie of GoF. If people were already complaining about PoA, ... i'd hate to see them watching GoF

[dragonfire]

What I think won't be in GOF:

I think they won't bother with Hermione starting SPEW until OOTP, but they'll probably bring up her view point on house elf treatment.
I can easily see the movie starting at the world cup with the riddle dream being put somewhere out of place. Everything prior, including the burrow will be out.
I agree that the scene with Barty Crouch's death will be cut.
Honestly, I can't see any classes in the movie other than their first DADA class with Moody, since so much of the actual school stuff was cut from POA.
Myrtle will probably be cut.

Here's what I think will be in:

The first DADA class will be in.
Every task will be in, but they will be shorter and Harry will probably figure out the clues in much less time.
The Yule Ball including Hagrid and Maxime should still be in, but it will be very condensed.
The graveyard scene will be much faster, probably with a much shorter fighting sequence but still with all the priori incantatum.
I think Barty Crouch Jr confession will be combined with the Fudge/Skeeter disbelief.

NO CLUE:

Sirius in Dumbledore's office
Malfoy as a ferret
The arrival of Beaxbatons and Durmstrang
Snape and Karkaroff's role as a Death Eater

What does everyone else think?

[Renaissance]

As much as I agree with you, I HOPE that Barty Crouch's murder will not be cut off. I just think it adds so much more to the film being a thriller.

But I think that it is quite important, isn't it? With the map and all..the Bartemius Crouch and Bartemius Crouch Jr. confusion thing. It is, actually, I've just realized, extremely important to the clever structure of the plot, which makes it a thriller. It's going to be a bit discombobulating for the un-informed audience when 'Barty Crouch Jr.' appears. They'll all be wondering, 'So what the f--- happened to the original Barty Crouch?!'

What I didn't like about PoA was they severed so much parts which could have explained the story a bit better, if not bring it to the crescendo at the Shrieking Shack with more grace.

What I love about JK Rowling is how the story gradually, excitingly, unravels. Sure, they haven't all the time in the world. But I'd give anything to see GoF be the thriller we all hope for it to be. :blush:

[Wab]

Whether SPEW makes the cut or not will be important. If there, it will indicate that the house elves will feature in the last two books. If not, it's just Hermione being...well, Hermione.

[Hermyownniny]

Ooooh, Malfoy as a ferret....please please let that stay in!!!

[rjade829]

i found the entire yule ball scene hilarious (not to mention totally realistic in real life), and i really hope they keep a lot of it in. i especially want them to show harry recognizing hermione for the first time and his jaw dropping and then everyone staring at her, it's such a great moment for hermione.

i dont mind at all that the dursleys are cut, they need more time for the more important things coming later in the book

[rjade829]

[QUOTE=Renaissance]Yule Ball - very necessary - as it shows the state of the relationship between Hermione, Ron, Harry, Patils(that's probably why they got cast),

good point! parvati and padma are really only important because of the yule ball, so as long as there's a search for actresses to play them then i guess the yule ball's in!

*sigh*...but how MUCH of the yule ball will they actually do...

[rjade829]

ok random question about GoF but one that's been bugging me--

in a couple of dan radcliffe interviews that i've read, the interviewers ask about romance in the 4th movie and dan says that there is some romantic plot, you know, between harry and cho chang and everything. and then they ask him, "any kissing?" and he says something like, "i hope so!"

but...why would there even be a chance of this?? cho doesnt kiss harry until book 5, and it has to be that way. so why would these interviewers make it seem like harry could be kissing her in the next movie? you don't think that the writer/directors would even dare to randomly put that in the 4th movie, do you? arrgh now they've got me all worried that the moviemakers are going to mess up the harry/cho thing now.

[tyro]

rjade829 - take a chill pill man, the film's a year and a half away and you're already worrying! Why would it be that bad if they put the Cho Chang subplot in GOF? Well actually, thinking about it, yeah, I can kinda see your point.

If the quidditch world cup didn't have such importance (i.e. showing the international community), then I would quite willing to let it go. We've seen 3 games of quidditch now, and to be quite honest I much prefer it in my imagination. It just eats up screen time and doesn't add to the story.

What do I expect to be cut? Not a lot, really. We're going to get the same choppy cuts. A lesson, introduce the new teachers, cut to the tournament, more lessons, more tournament, the ending. same ____ different day.

[Rhanebeaux]

I think that the conversation between Hagrid and Maxime will be left it.....we need it fir book 5 to explain how Grawp came to be, and we need Grawp to get rid of Umbrige. As for the ferret scence, i think it will be there. I mean the scene in POA where Hermione punces Malfoy didn't hold any significance to the plot, but they knew fan would be upset if it wasn't there. I think the Bouncing ferret is the same way

[Dottie]

I'm afraid of a lot of things, after seeing PoA. :huh: I guess I cannot stress enough how much it makes me sad that some childrens only Harry Potter experience is the films. :( Maybe I should stop whining about it and see if I can set up a reading at my local library. ;)

Anyway, somehow I am certain a lot of things will be cut, but I am hopeful someone will kindly reinsert the story of the Maureder's that was so clumsily slipped by the wayside last film. ;)

[fahadwajid]

if you read al the posts above cut out all the scenes mentioned
this is what the movie will be
harry arrives ar the weasleys
they go to world cup then they are at home ang in conversation mrs weasley says tomorow you are going to hogwarts and she has bougt all thier things. then they are ar hogwarts where dumbledore tells them about the triwizrd tournament. next scene hagrid shows harry the dragon. next scene harry is in th first event. next scene harry decoding the egg in the bathroom and dobby giving him the gilly weed. then the underwater event and imediately afterwords the third event and then the graveyard scene and then finally dumbledore explaining the entire events of the movie.

for gopd sake people , if this happens it will be te shortest HP movie but not knowing fully the working of the new director this just might happen.

[Potter13]

I would not miss Rita Skeeter at all! The Dursley part needs to be shortened. I would not mind it if they cut parts of the quidditch cup, but they need to leave the dark mark part in. I hope that they leave in all the stuff about the tasks(like how Harry is able to get through them with the help of others. I do not think he would have done too well with out the gillyweed from Dobby). I hope that they do not cut too much. They took too much out of PoA and I hope that does not happen to GoF. I understand why they cut things out, but I still would like more scenes left in. Oh well. :cool:

[Rhanebeaux]

DOTTIE Yes! The completly cut the whole Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs thing out of the POA movie, and i thought that was important. I mean we see Harry's Patronus, but there is no expliantion as to why it was a stag, and i think that left viewers that hadn't read the books confused. I mean, that alone shows a strong connection with Harry to his father. Though i think they did pretty well with POA, i am scared that GoF is going to be butcherd. I hope important thing such as the sbove mentioned won't be left out of the fourth film. I heard rumor that GoF is to be 4 hours long....anyone have any kind of confermation on this?

[jcuzo]

if they are willing to cute out the winning of the quidditch cup i fear that they may cut out the second task or the yule ball. that would make me so sad. alot of the S.P.E.W. stuff will probably go... hehe the harry potter SNL skit with lohan just came on hehe:)

[Dottie]

DOTTIE Yes! The completly cut the whole Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs thing out of the POA movie, and i thought that was important. I mean we see Harry's Patronus, but there is no expliantion as to why it was a stag, and i think that left viewers that hadn't read the books confused. I mean, that alone shows a strong connection with Harry to his father. Though i think they did pretty well with POA, i am scared that GoF is going to be butcherd. I hope important thing such as the sbove mentioned won't be left out of the fourth film. I heard rumor that GoF is to be 4 hours long....anyone have any kind of confermation on this?

I'm surprised JRK didn't have some sort of complaint about leaving that out. Although I'm sure it isn't entirely under her control. :upset:

[Renaissance]

The secrets for the Marauder's Map and the patronus will be in a later movie, possibly GoF. It stated so in Entertainment Weekly. :eyebrows: That's why JKR didn't make a palaver over it probably.

4 hours GoF? Highly doubt it. Perhaps 3hrs. 3 hrs 15 minutes. Although I would love it for 4 hours.

:cool:

[Wab]

Key scenes: the dark mark, the announcement of the tri-series and the arrival of the schools, the Goblet draw, the three tasks, the Yule ball, the cemetery. Around them are the doings of the fake Moody, Fudge, Percy and Rita (who needs to be introduced due to her role in OotP).

[tyro]

who needs to be introduced due to her role in OotP).
Not necessarily, you can still have Harry reveal his information to the world, but just through different means. Gotta be thinking outside the box, it's like the 3 Broomsticks scene in POA, stuck out like a sore thumb.

Though Rita is one of the series best characters, we've had Celebrity in the series (Lockhart), now we need the Paparazzi.

[Spike]

**Not to get off subject here, and I am aware that this is not a POA thread, BUT**
To be quite honest, I think they cut out way to darn much out of POA. :upset: So I'm just hoping and praying that they don't butcher this one too. My boyfriend who has never read the books was COMPLETELY lost when he watched it. He kept asking... now why did that happen, how did they get here... why?

Who's directing Goblet of Fire anyway? Have they released that yet?? I am agreence with you all when you say that cutting the yule ball and the cup is just stupid. I think they might do well with trimming down the time it takes Harry to figure out the 2nd clue, and trim down the end when "he who must not be named" comes to play. I'm not talking COMPLETELY here, but just slim it down a bit. If I remember correctly, he spends a few pages waiting for the Death Eaters to show. I don't see them though, cutting the part out when the people who were killed shoot out of his wand and help Harry. That would just ruin it...


I totally agree with you.

[Dottie]

The secrets for the Marauder's Map and the patronus will be in a later movie, possibly GoF. It stated so in Entertainment Weekly. :eyebrows: That's why JKR didn't make a palaver over it probably.

4 hours GoF? Highly doubt it. Perhaps 3hrs. 3 hrs 15 minutes. Although I would love it for 4 hours.

:cool:

Which issue was this in, Renaissance? :D I'd love to see it!

[Tearbear]

Things I don't want to be cut : Yule Ball, R/Hrm "scene", Triwizard Tourney, Harry in bubble bath, Voldemort scene, Quidd cup.

Things that will probably be cut: Ron/Harry Fight, Scenes in the library, Dursley stuff, alot of stuff from Quidd cup, alot of stuff from Triwizard

[Milyda]

Okay:

Rita Skeeter, Ludo Bagman, and SPEW, I'm expecting to be going, going, gone. None of it is essential and all of it could be neatly covered up in the following movies - simply have Harry give Luna his story to publish in OotP instead of Rita, for example. The Winky subplot doesn't even need to be there - Crouch Jr. learned to fight the Imperius Curse over time and wound up breaking free works well enough in itself.

The World Cup I think is going to be in, but I could easily part from it without a whole lot of weeping. The most important thing there is to introduce Krum, Crouch, Bagman, and the Dark Mark - the first two could easily be done during the unveiling of the Tournament, the third is unimportant, and the last could be taken care in a different way, easily. But like I said, I do think it's in. But if it comes down to sacrificing the World Cup vs. other plot points, I'd do it.

Gary Oldman's already said he's up for GoF. I don't think they'd cut him entirely, because a Harry-Sirius bond has to be reinforced for OotP to have any impact. But I do expect his part to be cut down. A brief visit in the cave, maybe, but I'm relatively sure Sirius is going to be there with Harry in Dumbledore's office/hospital wing in the end. His presence there doesn't eat up any screentime that doesn't already have to be there.

Skrewts? Gone. In fact, the only lesson that needs to be there is the one where Moody introduces the Unforgivables. If the Hagrid/Maxime/giant prejudice thing gets the chop, too, I wouldn't be surprised. Yule Ball is definetely in, for if nothing else Newell and Radcliffe already talking about it interviews. The whole debacle over the age line? Just a brief mention, at the most. If the Harry/Ron argument is cut, I wouldn't be surprised, but it'd be nice if it were in there.

A lot of the book is dedicated to Harry's preparations for the tasks - staying up late, studying, and the like. All of that could be easily cut. The Golden Egg issue in the third task may or may not be in, but if they can work their way around it, I'm thinking they will. In fact, the more I think about it, the more GoF is very, very feasible to me as a single movie - when it absolutely wasn't in the past.

[skylalei]

They need to show parts of the Quidditch World Cup, simply because it's that night that the Dark Mark appears in the sky. In order to clearly explain Crouch, Jr., they must include at least the part in the forest outside the campsite at night. Otherwise things simply wouldn't make sense.

Also, the portkey -- I agree. It's integral to the plot!

I really hope the Yule Ball isn't cut. Too many 14 year old hormones zinging around the air for it not to be shown. GOF is going to need some comic relief, considering the horribly dark undertones it takes after the first three. The Yule Ball not only helps to add that, but shows interactions (such as those between Ron and Hermione and Krum), and I think Krum is going ot be a part of the next book or two... he woudln't have been mentioned throught the fifth if he wasn't, and we need to see the relationship he's developing with Hermione Granger.

[Daniela]

I don't think that will happen. Four hours is too long for a franchise like "Harry Potter", for the WB studios that would be like sacrificing the entire series to the wolves. "Lord of the Rings" (especially the 3rd installment) was an exception to the rule and that was only because they knew they had an Oscar winner in their hands. Commercial movies like the "HP" movies are made to make lots of money, a four hour movie would greatly endangered the money making machine that these films have become. Sure HP fans would not mind at all, especially those 12 and over, however I bet that more than half of the audience watching the movies have never read any of the books and they need to keep these people and win over some more. Really few people would sit through a four hour movie, film critics would be first in line bringing the movie down and word of mouth can kill or make a movie in a flash.

Concerning the EW issue (#769), this is what it says:

"The most provocative deletion for fans: the backstory of the Marauder's Map, Harry's magical guide to Hogwarts. The filmmakers believed the details would work better in a future film."

[Mikig]

I recently purchased a movie magazine which is 3/4 dedicated to harry potter. Previous movies, POA, and GOF!!!! The MAgazine talks about the GOF strted filming . IS says as follows: "Even darker than POA, the GOB first scene doesn't happen as all the other movies with harry in his room. In the first SCene we see a little cottege where Vold. is regaining his powers. Not only do we hear about evil plans that will come to pass but we also witness the first murder in the series.( i am guessing ,for the movie purpose, the murder of Bertha Jorkins might be seen). Next scene, we wake up with harry at the dursleys with his scar burning. This sets up for a trajecory of twists and turns were our trio has to face up new challenges, especially harry as he competes in 3 challenges throughout the year." :eyebrows:

SO what u guys think? so far is seems to me that the movie is somewhat following the book. Of course the scenes will be quite sure i am sure but i think that we will definetly get to see some of the dursleys!! (which are necessary to the whole storybecause of what we learn in OotP and what we will learn in book 6 and 7!

[bowlwoman]

I agree with whoever mentioned that they can condense a lot of the scenes down. There are a lot of peripheral things that take up many pages in the books that can be whittled down or cut completely: Some of the extra descriptions during the tasks, all the things they run into during the maze, Moaning Myrtle in the prefects' bathroom, the Hogsmeade vists (they can show them just meeting Sirius in the cave), a lot of the Quidditch World Cup, etc, Ron and Harry's fight, the weighing of the wands, SPEW, etc.

Rita at least needs to make an appearance, IMHO, because she has some major function in OotP. Dobby/Winky MUST be there, as Winky provides all the exposition and explanation of Crouch!Moody at the end. At least part of the Yule Ball needs to be shown, the part relating to Krum, Hermione and Ron.

Some things could be condensed but will probably be left as is just because they would make cool special effects: the arrival of the other schools (flying carriages and a boat appearing out of the lake), the goblet and the age line, Draco the bouncing Ferret and the Dark Mark at the Quidditch Tourney.

bowlwoman

[Isildur]

I wouldn't mind if they cut out much of the Quidditch World Cup. Although I liked it very much in the book, it's not that integral to the plot of the story, excepting of course the scene in the Forest with Winky. The other stuff, like the introduction of Veelas, Krum, and Bagman & Crouch, could be mentioned later or somehow introduced in another manner. I really don't support this idea of a shortened GoF movie, but if it has to be done, it has to be done. *Sigh*.

They really must keep the Yule Ball, all three of the Triwizard Tasks, the scenes with the increasingly insane Mr. Crouch, all the Krum-loves-Hermione stuff, and Padfoot's return. This stuff is integral to the plot, in my opinion (except the Krum/Hermione part), and shouldn't be removed.

[Dottie]

Sure HP fans would not mind at all, especially those 12 and over, however I bet that more than half of the audience watching the movies have never read any of the books and they need to keep these people and win over some more.


If they haven't read the books by now, you can't win someone over with a fourth installment of a movie, I don't think. ;)

[gottaloveLupin]

i have a feeling they will cut the second contest.
There will definetily be the ball, the first and third contest and the whole confrontation with Voldemort.
Oh, and the lesson with Moody when they find out about the three spels and Harry resists the imperio spell.

[Morgan LeFay]

I also have a feeling that second task won't be in a movie in more that a mentioning. It's not that important to the plot, more to the Harry-Ron-Hermione-Victor-Cho relationship. I think they'll just say how many points Harry got and what happened.

I think Yule Ball is good for filmmaking, so I hope there will be a short part with it.

I really hope there will be QWC. It's so great, and if there's not, there won't be any quidditch in GoF.

I think they'll cut Tom Riddle's background story. I could live with that.

[Picko]

After seeing PoA I'm going to predict that they'll skip the Quidditch World Cup, the first and second tasks, the Yule Ball and anything else which is arguably important but could be done without. The movie will run for approximately an hour most of which I'll be spending my time scratching my head in confusion :p

[Renaissance]

I don't think they'll dare to omit Rita Skeeter completely. Don't forget, JK Rowling did say she is of some importance in providing Harry information...she did state something of the sort in her official website. Her role may be attenuated, but completely erased? I doubt it.

Ludo Bagman...yeah, I've an inkling of a feeling he'll get the chop.

The magazine which said that GoF begins at the Riddle's cottage...I believe they were referring to the book. The movie should indeed begin at the cottage, but we'll see Frank get annihilated and not Bertha. :eyebrows:

I'm pretty sure the 3 tasks will be in there, as I am about the Weasleys making their way to their camp site and so on. I think it'll be so magical seeing all the tents belonging to other wizards of different nationalities. Plus, we get to see the Portkey which is simply imperative to the plot. I can't wait to see the Prefect's bathroom actually.... All those bubbles of a myriad of colours...woo... :eyebrows: I hope they keep that one!

Barty Crouch and Barty Crouch Jr. will most likely be in there..somewhere, beacuse the latter is quintessential and you can't have a Junior without introducing Senior, can you?

[potterfreak]

I recently purchased a movie magazine which is 3/4 dedicated to harry potter. Previous movies, POA, and GOF!!!! The MAgazine talks about the GOF strted filming . IS says as follows: "Even darker than POA, the GOB first scene doesn't happen as all the other movies with harry in his room. In the first SCene we see a little cottege where Vold. is regaining his powers. Not only do we hear about evil plans that will come to pass but we also witness the first murder in the series.( i am guessing ,for the movie purpose, the murder of Bertha Jorkins might be seen). Next scene, we wake up with harry at the dursleys with his scar burning. This sets up for a trajecory of twists and turns were our trio has to face up new challenges, especially harry as he competes in 3 challenges throughout the year." :eyebrows:

SO what u guys think? so far is seems to me that the movie is somewhat following the book. Of course the scenes will be quite sure i am sure but i think that we will definetly get to see some of the dursleys!! (which are necessary to the whole storybecause of what we learn in OotP and what we will learn in book 6 and 7!

Well, I also don't think that, like Renaissance said, we see Bertha's death but more likely Frank Bryces' one ...

... and there are definitely NO dursleys in GOF. The actor of uncle vernon (Richard Griffith (?) ) said they will not be in the movie, and he's very disappointed about it.
So I'm wondering where harry will wake up with his scar burning. Perhaps directly at the burrow?

[potterfreak]

I'm pretty sure the 3 tasks will be in there, as I am about the Weasleys making their way to their camp site and so on. I think it'll be so magical seeing all the tents belonging to other wizards of different nationalities. Plus, we get to see the Portkey which is simply imperative to the plot. I can't wait to see the Prefect's bathroom actually.... All those bubbles of a myriad of colours...woo... :eyebrows: I hope they keep that one!

Barty Crouch and Barty Crouch Jr. will most likely be in there..somewhere, beacuse the latter is quintessential and you can't have a Junior without introducing Senior, can you?

Yeah, I'm right now imagining the walk trough the camp site with the little baby playing with the wand, the whizards argueing about their clothes, the magical tents (castles, ...), etc. This would be great fun to watch.

The portkey at the quidditch world cup is most important. It has to be introduced because when harry and cedric touch the cup at the end of the third task and they suddenly disappier ... well that would be entirely confusing and would make absolutely no sense.

You're completely right, Renaissance, the scene with harry in the bathroom with the moaning myrtle would be great, great fun. And Dan Radcliffe without clothes ... :blush: :drool: Sorry for that on!! :evil:

Yeah, the crouchs will be there but, I think, only very shortend. But in my opinion, this is not too bad, is it? They should focus on really important scenes like the bathroom ... Again, sorry! :lol: :lol: No, I mean the graveyard-scene, of course and the three tasks.

[Morgan]

Haven't read the whole thread but I see people saying they'll cut the World Cup out, but how will they explain the weird actions of Bagman, Fudge, Winky and what later turns out to be the invisible Couch son, and the Dark Mark in the sky scaring everyone that's important later in the book?

****, must be hard to write a script based on books not yet finished, for all they know they could be cutting what they think is unimportant now but it might turn out to be crucial in a coming book.

[Da_Chinkster]

I think they'll hvae to leave the Weasley's joke toys out in order to leave Bagman out which would be a shame. The GoF has a lot more in the book which links everything together so its gonna be a lot more difficult to chop out stuff. I suppose the bit where he finds out how to complete the tasks (gillyweed, bathroom etc.). Even though it is important I think they'd be able to get away with it. The yule ball is the only other thing that I can see having little relvance to the plot. I thik a lot of the picking of the competitors will also be chopped

[potterfreak]

Haven't read the whole thread but I see people saying they'll cut the World Cup out, but how will they explain the weird actions of Bagman, Fudge, Winky and what later turns out to be the invisible Couch son, and the Dark Mark in the sky scaring everyone that's important later in the book?

****, must be hard to write a script based on books not yet finished, for all they know they could be cutting what they think is unimportant now but it might turn out to be crucial in a coming book.

They know about it. Better said, JK reads every script and tells them, what has to be changed because of things that happen in the future books.

In the german magazine "one" it is also stated that she gave several actors (alan rickman, robbie coltrane, ...) clues and hints about their characters or what will happen to them in the upcoming books, so that they were able to play their parts in that direction and prevent mistakes or misunderstandings

Well, perhaps we should visit one of them vor a little chat, when they know how it continues ... :evil: :lol:

[muggledeedee]

I read in an EW article that Dan Radcliffe is taking scuba diving lessons for the movie so there is no way they will be cutting the underwater scene.

Obviously no Dursleys - shame - I wanted to see Dudley eat the ton tongue toffee

Quidditch cup surely to be whittled down to a just a little bit of Krum's flying, the introduction of Barty Crouch and Ludo Bagman and an extremely abbreviated version of the the forest scene with winky. (I'd like to see that the twins lost all their money to Bagman to explain why Harry would fork over the cash in the end)


I almost wish they would make it 2 movies (or 4 hours long)!!!

I am sure the classroom scenes will be cut with the exception of some of Moody's classes - setting us up for later in the movie.

I have faith that the Yule Ball will not end up on the cutting room floor. This is sort of Hermoine's big moment - I just hope they don't play that down. when she walks in and looks so beautiful and most people can't figure out who she is - that is one of my favorite parts of the book and hope that it makes the cut.

Think they'll cut Hermoine's house elf-freedom crusade?

[Doggy]

PoA is less than half the size of GoF, and they still cut down a lot of things, to get it down to 2 hours and 20 minutes (or whatever the length of it was). So I can definately see several scenes in GoF either being cut completely, or merged with each other, or shortened considerably.

The three tasks will probably be shortened a lot, just like all the times before each task when Harry sat in the library half the nights and breaks looking for information. And we will probably not see all the ins and outs with Rita Skeeter and her different articles.

muggledeedee, I have a feeling that SPEW might be cut. It might be mentioned in some scene, but it does take pretty much time, and it doesn't have much to do with the actual plot unfortunately, so I don't think we'll get to know and hear about her whole crusade.

The point is that GoF has such a long storyline in itself, that the movie-makers can't afford to elaborate on scenes that don't definately bring the plot forward.

[muggledeedee]

Of course the scenes will be quite sure i am sure but i think that we will definetly get to see some of the dursleys!! (which are necessary to the whole storybecause of what we learn in OotP and what we will learn in book 6 and 7!

The Actors playing the Dursleys were not called back the last I heard. They were rather upset about it as was I since I agree with you that they are essential to the story line no matter insignificant it seems at this point in the series.

[hermione_g_004]

i am not willing to let go of any of it! that one is my fav book! and they are cutting out the dursleys! they are thinking about making it into 2 movies since its gonna be so long...but i guess they still have to cut out a lot. probably gonna cut out the classes...but im mad about the dursleys...theyre cutting out the ton tongue toffees!

[lorna]

may I remind those who think just cause Radcliffe is taking scuba diving that means such and such a scene is definately in. Elijah Wood took a number of caligraphy classes. I think he wrote one line.
They shoot all kinds of scenes in films that wind up for whatever reason getting cut. Newell has said he wants the film coming in
between 2 and 2 1/2 hours.
I think it's a safe bet that the further from Harry you get the more likely it is to be cut. So I'm thinking a lot of the stuff about
the Crouches is out, SPEW in it's offical form is out, while Ron and Harry's estrangement is about Harry it does take a lot of time
and could be cut, especially if you keep the Yule Ball. I don't see
them cutting the ball(all that teen angst, far too juicy) but I'm guessing no Snape blasting necking
students out of the rosebushes (I'll be happy if they leave Snape
flashing his dark mark in Fudge's face but I'm not hopeful)

[Renaissance]

I believe if Mike Newell wishes to make GoF the thriller we think it ought to be, then he can't afford to reduce some scenes too much or the pace will be too fast and sometimes, disconcerting.

That was my lil issue with PoA : the intro was done in a flash and by the time he got onto the Knight Bus, I just managed to digested what had actually occurred in the first 5 minutes.

The Quidditch World Cup scene won't be too short, I believe. It must be an extremely expensive setup (even if it is mostly computer-animated) and it'll be a waste of good money to flash a ludicrously brief 1 minute of it. As long as we get more than 3 minutes (which trust me, is longer than you might think) , it's fine by me.

Expanding on the issue of pace, I think Ludo Bagman, Crouch (Sr. & Jr.) and Karkaroff all play very, very important parts. Their presence could make it more electrifyingly thrilling. Just think: we see Voldermort and Wormtail in Scene 1(hypothetically) and then we see them in the final scene. But where's all that lovely suspense culminating at Godric's Hollow if we don't have anything in between pertinent to the brewing of evil? Namely, Barty gone missing, Karkaroff having a furtive chat with Snape and Barty later getting killed near the maze with Krum knocked cold. Don't get me wrong, the 3 tasks are a huge part of the plot indeed, but it's the significance of things happening in the shadows which makes GoF so brilliant and exciting.

You know something... If they wanted to incorporate the backstory on the Marauder's Map and hence the Animagi Marauders, only Sirius can share that information. Lupin's not in this one. And Gary Oldman did confirm his brief physical appearance. So he might be the one who'll do some explaining in GoF.

When Harry wakes up from his nightmare..he remembers this name..'Wormtail' and he sees Frank getting killed et al. I think that could just lead him to inquire about the Marauders on his own volition. After all, he does see 'Wormtail' on the intro to the map. So that may well be the beginning of all his questions...on who Prongs,Padfoot, Mooney and Wormtail are. And More. So he asks Sirius. Possible ? :p


Moving on...
Now, just some wishful thinking and wondering...

Remember Harry in PoA, when he discovered his Dad was Prongs when he unleashed the Patronus (and confirming this with Lupin later on..if my memory doesn't fail me)..I felt that it was a beautiful scene; that sudden comforting realization.

Well, if Sirius mentions more on James being Animagus, but doesn't exactly tell Harry what his Daddy really transformed into, do U think it possible for Harry to realize during Priori Incantatem? In other words, James Potter emerging from the Voldermort's wand as Prongs before changing to human form? Don't impale me for this one, I just thought it'd be kinda magical and poignant if that happened. :rotfl:

Don't forget guys, this is the most expensive film ever made. US$370 million isn't peanuts. More than Return of The King. So it can't be THAT short, and you can probably bet it'll be a spectacle, alright. :p Now all we can do is see how this spectacle flatters(or insults? let's hope not..) the one we carry in each of our minds as we read those books. :cool:

[potterfreak]

You know something... If they wanted to incorporate the backstory on the Marauder's Map and hence the Animagi Marauders, only Sirius can share that information. Lupin's not in this one. And Gary Oldman did confirm his brief physical appearance. So he might be the one who'll do some explaining in GoF.

When Harry wakes up from his nightmare..he remembers this name..'Wormtail' and he sees Frank getting killed et al. I think that could just lead him to inquire about the Marauders on his own volition. After all, he does see 'Wormtail' on the intro to the map. So that may well be the beginning of all his questions...on who Prongs,Padfoot, Mooney and Wormtail are. And More. So he asks Sirius. Possible ? :p


Moving on...
Now, just some wishful thinking and wondering...

Remember Harry in PoA, when he discovered his Dad was Prongs when he unleashed the Patronus (and confirming this with Lupin later on..if my memory doesn't fail me)..I felt that it was a beautiful scene; that sudden comforting realization.

Well, if Sirius mentions more on James being Animagus, but doesn't exactly tell Harry what his Daddy really transformed into, do U think it possible for Harry to realize during Priori Incantatem? In other words, James Potter emerging from the Voldermort's wand as Prongs before changing to human form? Don't impale me for this one, I just thought it'd be kinda magical and poignant if that happened. :rotfl:

Don't forget guys, this is the most expensive film ever made. US$370 million isn't peanuts. More than Return of The King. So it can't be THAT short, and you can probably bet it'll be a spectacle, alright. :p Now all we can do is see how this spectacle flatters(or insults? let's hope not..) the one we carry in each of our minds as we read those books. :cool:

Sirius explaining harry the marauders and their storys in gof would be just great. this would be another little conversation between harry and sirius that I really, really loved in poa. i think they (Steve (?) Kloves) thought over it really hard before they decided not to explain the marauders in poa. there must have been a reason why they didn't. I don't care when they do the explaination as long as they do it.

This point with the name wormtail in his nightmare/vision is really great, Renaissance!! naturally harry will ask what that meant and someone (hopefully sirius in gof) will explain it to him. then all the disappointed fans who didn't like poa because of the missing explaination of the marauders would be satisfied and happy.

Maybe Sirius doesn't tell harry about prongs and he discovers the secret with that stag but I really would prefer that sirius tells him and in priori incantatem james appears and not prongs.

i really, really, really loved poa (the movie) and cannot wait until gof!!!!

[Raethul]

After a while of poking along this forum, I felt compelled to reply to this thread. Hello!

For those who are complaining about the cuts of PoA, I expect there to be floods of tears over GoF. There is just too much. I'm expecting nearly anything that isn't directly related to the moving forward of the plot or essential to future movies to be axed. That includes Ron/Harry fight, most of World Cup, numerous classes, Bagman, most of Karkaroff and Maxime, Hogsmeade visits, most of Pensieve trials, the play with Ron/Fleur, the Burrow, and Fred and George's plans for the joke shop. Most of the scenes included I expect to be heavily watered down and simplified, with an exception the final confrontation among the graves.

I expect most of us will be forced to shove Harry Potter purist aura's behind. This is not to say I think the movie will be bad. It may turn out to be brilliant. But I've made a point not to marry myself to any scene or if I already was, to quickly file for a divorce. :P It should be obvious by this point that the movies are plot driven while the books are more character driven. I think PoA (the movie) did a very good job showing the character driven side of the books, which is perhaps why I adore it so much more than the other two.

Despite the fact that *this* or *this* scene may be your favorite, you should consider whether it is essential to the books plot or you can probably kiss it goodbye. I actually consider it much to early to be fretting over cuts; I don't expect it to reach a pitch until about summer of next year. I can handle cuts and changes as long as they are within the spirit of the book. And I have seen NOTHING in the Harry Potter movies akin to the changes and omissions made in Lord of the Rings, so I would stop worrying. I only wish Newell would pull a Peter Jackson and release an extended version of GoF. *Sigh* One can dream.

[herbertsandbach]

I want to see all four different dragons that would be cool !!!!!!!!!!! although we'll probably only get Harry's ;((

[Wab]

Interesting bit of foreshadowing of GoF in one of the additional bits in PoA. In the PoA film Ron has his nightmare about spiders making him tapdance. In the first DADA lesson in GoF Moody makes a spider tapdance.

[ginnybatbogeysyou]

Interesting bit of foreshadowing of GoF in one of the additional bits in PoA. In the PoA film Ron has his nightmare about spiders making him tapdance. In the first DADA lesson in GoF Moody makes a spider tapdance.
:wow: You're right! I totally forgot about that!

[Kirium]

I did a search and didn't find a definite answer. Is Rosamund Pike in the movie as Rita Skeeter or no?

If not how about Kate Beckinsale? That alone would be reason to watch GoF over and over and over.

Also it does appear it will be one movie and I like the way Mike Newell is describing it:

Allaying fears that he'll turn out a two-act Potter, Newell told Empire that it's one film all the way. "As far as I'm concerned it's absolutely possible to do it in one. I think it would be slightly embarrassing to do it in two."

The Four Weddings director will also be taking the franchise in yet another new direction. "It's a classic paranoid thriller in a way. I've spent Christmas watching things like The Parallax View and The Insider and Three Days of the Condor. What you have is a story at the beginning of which the powers of evil have a plan, which is absolutely not revealed to your hero. The kid just wonders into another year at school, then this huge notion of the competition surprises him. But there is, of course, a malign intelligence which is manipulating things. And so he gets more and more suspicious until there is a shoot-out between him and the bad guy. That's a really good, strong thriller shape."

[Spike]

I reject the notion that GoF must be trimmed down. I think that if you present a interesting story which GoF is then people will watch it. I mean people watched LOTR and they were boring and long. GoF is exciting and long. Also remember that Schindler's List is a long movie that people seem to enjoy. It shouldn't be the length that people worry about but the quality. And GoF is full of quality.

[SSdraken]

I think its sad that they would rather make more money that present a good interpritation of GOF that the fans will enjoy. If you are a HP fan you will enjoy it, if you aren't, why would you go and see it? I think that JKRowlings was not too smart for giving the rights to Warner Brothers. My friend has a Hermione Granger bubble bath toy. Thats sad.

I think that a lot of the beginning will be cut - Harry leaving the Dursleys for example. He might get the letter, then Poof, hes arriving at the world cup, they get into the tent then Poof, watching the world cup, then poof, bed, then out of bed, to the wood and " Moddorsmore! ". I don't think Harry will prepare for the cups as well. I don't think there will be an egg, and the solution to the 2nd task will come a lot easier to harry, as well as quicker.

[Raethul]

I think its sad that they would rather make more money that present a good interpritation of GOF that the fans will enjoy. If you are a HP fan you will enjoy it, if you aren't, why would you go and see it?.

The Heck??? :huh: Why should you have to read a book to enjoy a movie. There are plenty of people who go and see Harry Potter that haven't read the books. Half the movies dotting cinemas are based off of books; why should I have to be a fan of that series or author to enjoy a MOVIE of it? I adore Spiderman and the X-men movies, but I haven't so much as picked up a comic book. Movies based on books are not made exclusively for fans, and a general movie goer may not be willing to sit through 4 hours of Harry Potter, however good the story. On the money aspect, however, profits would drop because your audience would be mainly comprised of fans. And even though there are a bundle of HP fans, I doubt there are enough to keep the movie afloat. Loss in profits could result in WB deciding they'd rather ditch the project all together than risk losing more money. I'd settle for some cuts.

[Renaissance]

It's all a matter of taste, I believe. I'd love to sit down with a bountiful bowl of popcorn and watch a 4 hour flick but I'm sure people may find that just too rebarbatively long. The Return Of The King was 200 minutes, yes, and I lapped up every minute of it. But surely I can't say the same for others. I've had people complain that PoA was too long. :huh: Actually i got really ****** with that comment made.

But I don't know if I'd want everything to appear on screen from the book as verbatim. Personally, I'd be bored to death. I'd like to watch something different but with everything salient intact and the spirit of the book captured.

It's important for the interests of fans and writers to be in equilibrium with the financial interests of WB. I'd be happy with a 3 hours - 3 hour fifteen minute movie. As long as everything vital's in and nothing seems too rushed, I'm chuffed.

[xMagic]

They will certainly cut quite a few of the details from Chapter 1 through 5. I do hope they leave the Weasley's appearance at the Dursley's though.

[Silver Wolf]

I think they're going to cut parts of the Triwizard Tournament out. Perhaps they'll show the first task in full but I reckon that the others will be really condensed. Also for the sake of it being more simple they'll have Harry actually working out for himself what to do in the tasks, rather than other people helping him out. What I really hope they do in this film is EXPLAIN things- unlike in POA. The film-makers obviously thought that people would be bored out of their brains with all the back-plot but I think it's really important.

[Raethul]

I would adore a 3 hour - 3 and 15 minute GoF, but the chances of that happening are slim to none. I'm beginning to think WB would never allow that because they would believe it would drive away "younger fans" who would get restless. I believe Lord of the Rings got away with it because it was aimed at an older audience. Shame that HP can't do the same. Of course, this is from someone who wouldn't mind sitting through a 72 hour marathon of either LotR or HP. Time constraints....what an annoying premise.

[Renaissance]

On the contrary, I think WB may just allow a 3 hour GoF. They sanctioned a 2 hour 45 minute-odd CoS, didn't they? And they would know GoF is the 2nd longest book, so I think they'll be more understanding. Backstory is so vital and I'm sure JK Rowling will step in if it's not up to scratch.

GoF is toothsomely fleshy and even if you wanted to flesh out the essential, it'll still be pretty long. By taking on GoF I think WB knew what they were in for. At least I hope they are. Cut too much out and you're going to have loadsa trouble handling the later films! Prodigious budge, too

. It'll be shame if they shelled out so much cash for a 2.5 hour movie. I know it's quality not quantity here...but still! (here I go again on budget, pardon me..) They way I see it..Return of the King was 3.5 hours long and GoF's US$350 budget is more than the former, so I think it's reasonable to expect nothing less than 3 hours. Sound stupid to even think of this...but it makes sense to me. An epic sum of dough should mean an epic film and GoF, though 1/7 of the series, has that grandeur about it.

They've obviously lots of special effects and sets to build and that translates to more screen time. Dragons, Mer people, Quidditch World Cup, Maze, Creatures in the Maze, Effects for Beauxbaton's carriages and Durmstrang's ships, Prefect's Bathroom, Godric's Hollow, Campsite of the Wizards at QW Cup...it's hard not to have a 3 hour-ish movie after squeezing in all of that. :p

I'm not saying they will include everything. But more cash probably means more emphasis on detail, cast, special effects, which means more screen time to include each of these.

[nofilmstudent]

Editing Time. Hmmmm. Too bad about the Dursleys. Its always funny how they react to Harry's friends. It might look like #2 after Harry shows up at the Weasley's. "You could have DIED!" We know how he does the fireplace floo powder already. They should introduce all the new characters in this one. The older Weasley brothers, Rita Skeeter, Winky. They show up in the later books so it should be important to include them now. The Burrow scene doesnt have to be long, but it needs to start SOMEWHERE. The World Cup campground scene would be nice. Its one of the few places we would be able to see other than British magicians at work. The Dark Mark should be seen. Crouch and Azkaban should be a big part. Sirius/Snuffles should be in it. The fireplace chats, which was left out of POA, should be used. Mad eye's home doesnt have to be shown. He's like the opposite of what Sirius was supposed to be. Bad guy turned good vs Good guy turned bad. Draco on the train should be shown. "Dont tell me you dont KNOW." If his Dad knows so much, he should have known about the age requirement then huh? :p
Sheets of rain falling down to make things look real depressing. Of course Peeves wont be seen, again. Mad eye Moody's scarey entance. I wonder if they'll keep the Frankenstein feel of POA. (Tom the Innkeeper, er, Hunchback.)
No poems by the Sorting Hat, but then, there never was any in the others either.
No house ghosts, most likely.
I can see Hermione having a fit about "slave labor". She didnt like Divination class either, they might want all 3 kids to have a bad disposition in this one too. I can feel her pain. People look at me like Im crazy when I speak up about the Govt or movie adaptations. :)
The twins trying to beat the age requirement should be left in.
Will they keep Hagrid's class or cut it for Snape and the Head of Durmstrang chats and Moody's Constant Vigilance class? Maybe.
They should show the other schools arriving though. That looks like a great scene.
Of course the dragons should be shown.
And Winky and Dobby should be shown. Elves shouldnt be brushed aside, they have an important role in the books to come.
Moaning Myrtle should be shown again.
Rita Skeeter's evil should be shown. They should be allowed inside the 3 Broomsticks this time. The Hogsmeade visit with Sirius should be shown. #5 will be showing a LOT more of him. Moody and the Maze should be shown. Maybe they can leave the beginning part with the house and the graveyard til the end. They wont be showing his scar hurting and his visions of HWMNBN while waking up at the Dursleys anyway.
They should really show Harry getting a psychic wavelength with you know who in this one. The wand seller already told Harry he shares a twin wand with him anyway. And the scar will show how close they have become in the years leading up to the graveyard scene. The Priori Incantatum scene would be really cool to see. They'll probably cut all the Weatherby/missing ministry official parts. But maybe she can be shown in the graveyard. And the Moody being unmasked should be seen. But I wouldnt be surprised if they left out the explanation that Sirius gave about the Azkaban escape. They'll probably just cut to Ron getting a cute little owl and then the Happily Ever After end credits will roll on and on forever. No denials by the ministry about you know who coming back. No meeting with the Diggory's. No giving the twins the championship money for their jokeshop, etc. The End.
phew. :p

[nofilmstudent]

I forgot, they HAVE TO have a xmas scene and the Yule Ball is SO xmas, I know-maybe TOO Columbus-like, but what would the place look like without the xmas decorations? They have to keep it in! :upset:

[Shadowfire76]

Okay haven't read all the pages of this thread so bear with me. I think that the whole Dobby, Winky and S.P.E.W stuff will be cut out. I have also heard that the entire Quidditch World cup and everything with the Dursleys has been cut and the movie will start with Harry back at school. I don't think we will see much of the Pensieve episodes either. They may throw a brief one in there but I don't see them going into all the details that JK did in the book. The classes will be cut to the bare minimium and the Rita Skeeter's stuff will be cut to a bare minimium. The second task may be shortened but I don't think it will be taken out completley. I hope they keep at least part of the Yule Ball because I think it is an important part of the book. The weighing of the wands will be gone. I also think that alot of the Bagman And Harry stuff will be cut.

The things I hope they don't cut down to the bare minimuim are the 1st and 3rd task and the ending with Voldemort coming back and the duel with harry.....I really hope they leave all that stuff alone and don't go hacking away at it. I hope they at least keep some of Moody's classes and keep the whole moody/crouch Jr thing at the end. It is such a HUGE book that I am sure there will be more then we like cut from the book.

[Shadowfire76]

Of course, this is from someone who wouldn't mind sitting through a 72 hour marathon of either LotR or HP. Time constraints....what an annoying premise.


LOL you sound like me!!! I have the LOTR extended DVD editions and I will sit and spend an entire day just watching the LOTR and the behind the scenes stuff. I also do the same thing with HP. And I think they could get away with a 3 hour movie if they wanted too. When I went to go see POA there were more adults than kids in the theater watching it. They have to keep in mind that the fan base for HP is getting older and growing. The kids who loved the first book and have followed the series are now in theirteens or even adults now.

[noxerised]

i think they'll cut some of the tri-wiz tourney, although i hope they keep the first task in, and show everyone's attempts...and also the last event (obviously that has to stay in)...i'd love to see the Weasley's come to the Dursley's...i can't imagine a funnier scene...Hermoine's SPEW will be toned down to a dull roar, as will Rita Skeeter, though i'd like to see her head on a mosquito in a jar...(just a funny thought)...and i firmly believe that we need to have the 'traditional' Dumbledore-end-of-movie scene, where he explains things to Harry and answers questions...personally, i would love to see a 3-hour movie...b/c that's the minimum it will take to show this properly...

[Raethul]

[QUOTE=Renaissance]On the contrary, I think WB may just allow a 3 hour GoF. They sanctioned a 2 hour 45 minute-odd CoS, didn't they? And they would know GoF is the 2nd longest book, so I think they'll be more understanding. Backstory is so vital and I'm sure JK Rowling will step in if it's not up to scratch. [QUOTE]

Goodness I hope so. What leads me to think it may only be around two hours was not only concerns with WB, but I read somewhere (maybe this thread actually) that Newell only wanted a 2-2.5 hour movie. Funny that the larger the books the shorter the movie time seems to be.

I hadn't even considered the budget, but your logic seems to point toward a longer movie. I still have my fingers crossed...for all the good that does. :cool:

Actually I'm not too worried over cuts in this movie. Well, I am but I'm worried more so with OotP, in which there is no definite plot to follow and it could turn out a mess. Here's hoping it'll round up at just under or even at 3 hours. :tu: But Heavens knows when that movie will come out or who will be directing it for that matter.

[Ginevra Molly]

I wouldn't care if the movie topped 5 hours! But that will *never* happen so there is no point in dreaming.

I agree with everybody who said S.P.E.W. will be left out, even though it does cast bad light on Hermione and Kreacher in OotP.

Oh I hope they show the scene were Ron tries to ask Fleur out! Doubt it, but what I laugh!

I see them cutting a chunk of my favorite task (being the 2nd) out, because it doesn't really do anything except show that Harry is gullible and Krum fancies Hermione O.o

Anyway, I just hope they don't chop it up to bad. Considering it's my favorite and all.

[mevam]

They MUST put in the Yule Ball, it might not directly affect the steadily darkening theme of the movies, but its just a little bit of fun for the film, and I so want to see the Ron/Hermione moment, its just classic. I think that the Tasks are fairly important, although they shouldn't turn the film into some action flick where half an hour is given up so we can see Harry rounding around the Dragon on his Firebolt. There shouldn't be more than 5 minutes required for the First Task, its really the Third One that matters most.

[Mega]

THEY CAN NOT CUT THE YULE BALL! This may seem shallow but I want to see Emma all dressed up and looking beautiful. If she looks hot in PoA in average clothes imagine what she will look like with the best make up people working on her!

[Shadowfire76]

Oh I hope they show the scene were Ron tries to ask Fleur out! Doubt it, but what I laugh!

I totally agree. I think they should definatley put the whole Harry and Ron trying to find a date scene in the movie. Just reading it was hilarious so I would love to see it in the movie. :lol:

[FreckledApples]

this is how i think its going to be:
-Quidditch Cup
-Hogwarts, harry and others get chosen as champions almost right away
-rons mad
-first task, ron is over it
-asking girls to yule ball
-yule ball
-2nd task/rita skeeter
-crouch in forest
-3rd task
-voldie scene
-end

as you can see there are a lot of important parts to include, so it going to be hard to put a lot of little stuff in it. i think the movie will jump around a lot, but i still think its going to rock my socks!!!! and if they take out the yule ball i will just...grrrrrr! i dont think they will though b/c everyone will hate them for it! lol

[Raethul]

I just read on another site on a messageboard that the unexpected task WILL be included. Granted, I don't know how reliable that bit of information is, but it is nice to hope that it will be. With all the up-play on Ron-Hermione, I don't think it likely they'll cut the Yule Ball unless they are sorely pressed for time. The Yule Ball could actually translate really well on screen, and it'll be fun to watch. We'll see in the end.

[generator_g1]

My thoughts...

1. The World Cup will most probably be cut. They could have all that just printed in the cover of the Daily Prophet.
2. The director/producers will probably milk Radcliffe's poster boy image as much as they can, so they'll probably show the Myrtle-Harry bathroom scene (Shirtless Harry, anyone?)
3. The three tasks will be there in all their entirety as well as the Yule Ball.

:cool:

[Milyda]

After more thought on this - if I were director of GoF, and was asked to make it a decently-lengthed movie, a few ideas to throw out there:

- World Cup is in, but severely shortened. Krum gets a mention and perhaps you see his poster as an introduction, but otherwise Crouch is the only new character introduced. (No Winky, no Bagman.) The Death Eaters attack before the Cup game actually takes place, and this is shortened as well - possibly the 'attack' consists solely of the Dark Mark being shot into the sky. If something has to go, the Cup sequence is the first to get the axe, and information about the Dark Mark would be squeezed in elsewhere. Crouch and Krum could easily be introduced for the first time later, at Hogwarts.

- No Rita Skeeter or Ludo Bagman, and if Dobby can be squeezed in, that's fine, but if further things must be cut out - Dobby's gone, and Harry finds an alternative way to get the Gillyweed. (Hermione or Moody or Neville could throw it at him, easily.) Yes, that means SPEW's gone as well, though Hermione could easily voice her opinion in the situation in one or two lines.

- One class. You heard me, one: Moody telling them about the Unforgivables. That's the only one that must be in. No Imperius tests or anything; the explanation is given and that's all she wrote.

- I'd seriously consider eliminating the Golden Egg subplot, and simply have Cedric telling Harry about the second task outright, to save time. Snape and Moody could catch Harry right after he and Cedric's meeting, or something.

- I'd love to include Ron and Harry's spat, but it'd probably be sidelined to an extent. If it has to go, again - regrettable, but so be it.

- Cho subplot would be in, but restricted to the Yule Ball sequence and a longing glance or two before or after it.

- Sirius is in, but is restricted to a shortened visit in the cave and being there for Harry at the end. (... Granted, if I REALLY did this movie the way I wanted it, it likely would consist chiefly of Sirius and Harry frolicking merrily through flower fields together, but that's neither here nor there...)

- All of Voldemort's exposition is cut cut cut please cut it now. He mentions he's got a faithful Death Eater at Hogwarts and we're onto the duel.

- Crouch/Moody's two lengthy expositions is very capable of being shortened, and crunched into one sequence. Reveal he's TEH EVOL to Harry before Dumbledore charges in, then give him the entire basics of the story there.

- The Hagrid/half-giant subplot... meh. Could really see it being cut entirely and not even being an issue in Movie 5. Hagrid's missing in Order work, ooo la la. If you can keep it, okay, but it's not exactly on my list of priorities.

I used to think there was absolutely no way GoF could be cut down into one movie, but the more I consider it - I really do believe it's possible, and I'm open-minded about the changes. As long as they make a good film, keeping to the crucial information and, yes, remaining faithful to the spirit of the books - I'm a happy camper.

[herbertsandbach]

We will get the DADA Lesson we may also get a Charms lesson as thats how Harry gets his broom in Task1, we may even get a Herbology lesson (though I doubt it ) thats Harry's schooling done...oh is Hogwarts a school ??

How film will go using POA as a guide..

Quidditch world cup
Train
Explanation of Goblet
DADA lesson
Task1
Yule Ball
Task 2
Skrewt lesson
Task3
Graveyard
The End

[tyro]

Yule Ball? Not sure if that'll be there, if it is it'll have to be about 2 miniutes long.

I'm finding that instead of cutting huge chunks out (except for the first 14 chapters) you just have to scale everything down. Coming to think of it, the end will be the hardest bit, because you have the whole graveyard thing, then the Moody bit, then I think Harry goes to Dumbledore's Office where he recalls the events (which you can't do in a film - why repeat information we've already seen?) then there's the hospital scene - the parting of the ways - and the ending feast, which leaves a sense of foreboding. This is really big, I'm thinking like 30 pages almost. So I'm thinking they may well have to snip some parts from it. I think they may just cut lessons all together, we know the deal now, he's at a school and has some lessons, why do we need that re-inforced?

[Pazarius]

A lot of people seem to be cutting Rita Skeeter out entirely, as if it doesn't matter. I think it does, and not just for OOTP.

Fudge's refusal to accept that Voldemort has returned has to be handled very carefully if it is to be believable. Fudge doesn't want to believe that Voldemort has returned because it would shatter his delusions of grandeur. But not wanting to believe isn't enough, he needs a reason to think that Harry would lie - and Rita Skeeter provides that. Without Rita and her articles, I would find Fudge's behaviour in GoF inconsistent with that of PoA.

Of course, her sub-plot could be easily condensed, having at a minimum just one nasty article about Harry, Hermione & Hagrid (Unless half-giant thing cut), with the trio reading a few sentences out.

I'd like to see the hate mail in as well... just to show how stupid & gullible some people can be. :) However, that would be a luxury.

Some other comments...

-Barty Crouch Jr. I'm wondering whether they may simplify his history. In the book, he practically recites his life story when under the veritaserum. This wouldn't really work in a movie. And what happened at the quidditch world cup will be difficult to explain quickly and clearly. I think they may change a few things here.

-The Pensieve. Again, a lot of people cutting all or most of the trials. Which would be a shame. They give you so much information about the characters and their history, as well as showing you what it was like after Voldemort's fall, with a 'McCarthy-esque' witch-hunt for anybody suspecting of supporting him. And if Newell wants to mantain a 'mystery' element, he has to show more than just Crouch's trial. In the book, the pensieve sequence seemed almost like a police line-up of the suspects.

[KingsleysCool67]

Well there retards to cutt anything with rita skita, moody, Snape, Doumbledoor, i noticed the new guy for PoA changed it around way to much, he'll screw the entire concept of the book over if he tries that again. For example the firebolt, and the werewolf

[tyro]

Well there retards to cutt anything with rita skita, moody, Snape, Doumbledoor, i noticed the new guy for PoA changed it around way to much, he'll screw the entire concept of the book over if he tries that again. For example the firebolt, and the werewolf

check your grammar. man.

If you're referring to Alfonso Cuaran as the "new guy", then you're under the misinterpretation that he's directing GoF. Mike Newell will be directing it, but Kloves will still be writing it.

I think, as I'm finding it with the screenplay as well, that they'll cut Task2. Maybe incorparate it into task 3, but there's just not enough room for it all. 40 pages (minutes) in and they've just picked the champions. it's very very hard.

[jen15poms]

Parts that I think WILL NOT be cut...
1. Quidditch World Cup
2. Goblet of Fire scene (obviously!)
3. Harry's interactions with "Moody"
4. Triwizard Tournament challenges
5. Egg clue
6. Dobby helping Harry w/gillyweed
7. Graveyard scene (again, obviously)
8. Trelawney's prediction
9. Priori Incantatem

Parts that I think WILL be cut out...
1. Hogsmede
2. Yule Ball
3. S.P.E.W
4. Winky in the kitchens
5. Weasleys' Wizard Wheezes (?)

[Angelina]

I would honsetly have to say that I wouldn't be able to let anything go. I could maybe let go of Hogsmede, Winky in the kitchens, and S.P.E.W but that's it. And I promise that if they break the movie into two parts, I won't go see it. GoF is my favourite in the series and if they mess it up, I'm going to be seriously upset.

[Wab]

The QWC prliminaries coul be dealt with as credits sequence.

[dementorskiss]

I would watch GOF if it were a 4 hour movie, I watch LOTR all the time, but the directors and producers wouldn't risk it. Hopefully Newell will follow Cauron's style rather than Columbus'. Background story will probably cut out pretty much.

These will probably be cut out:
begining w/ Dursleys
most (if not all) of the Quiditch World Cup
Weasley Wizard Weezes
Hogsmeade
SPEW
Sorting
Peeves
most of the Yule Ball
part of the tasks
discovering the meaning of the egg
all of the pensieve except for (maybe) crouch jr.

I would hope that these parts wouldn't get cut out, but they probably will along with others. But I've sit through the other movies and the LOTR movies so I can deal with them cutting out stuff, it would be nessesary considering the size of GOF.

[herbertsandbach]

I think they had a big casting sessions for Parvati and Padma patil, they didn't do that for POA and cast another girl. I think they wouldn't go to all that trouble and not include the Yule Ball. The only really big scene with them in. I don't think the scene will be a large one but I think it will definately be included.

[Daltervia]

I expect the BASIC storyline would be kept so:

Start with the Quiddich World Cup and the dark mark, etc.

Hogwarths express

Hogwarths and Dumbledore's announcement.

A couple of lessons (about 2, maybe 3)

Arrival of other schools

The Goblet of Fire (it could have been missed out, but its the name of the Book, you know...)

(I think that Harry and Ron's arguement will be CONDENSED to either nothing, or to about two minutes)

First Task - the dragon is too much of good publicity (and trailer!) to miss.

The Ball - again, good trailer stuff (majestic as well!)

Second Task (But condensed a LOT! Probably begin half way through the tournament, with all those worries of Harry gone!)

Things with Sirius, Rita and Crouch OR lessons OR Something else to fill up the time(Rita may be cut out, or just a cameo, same as Sirius) (Not to sure about whether Crouch Senior will stay or not)

Third Task

Grave Yard & the Return of You-Know-Who

Harry's escape

Moody's confession (condensed heavily, but the fact that he was a death eater should be kept in)

Fudge's ego problem ( They might move it to the Order of the Pheonix though, start all that there)

Dumbledore's Speech

Getting into the Hogwarths Express

(Just think that it would be a better ending than Harry mounting a firebolt and flying off without even proper ENDING MUSIC!!!!!(lol))

Everything else will probably be cut.

[pepperimp]

keep:

The Riddle House
The World Cup / Darkmark
Moody's Class about the curses
The Goblet of Fire
All 3 tasks
the ball
the prefect's bathroom
The graveyard scene
the rdream / pensieve

cut:
the durselys
Harry's letter to Sirius
most, if not all of the burrow and the train
practicing the curses with hermione / ron
exams
SPEW only in passing, if at all
Hogsmeade


But really, I trust them because PoA was magnificent and the cuts made it a better movie.

[remusjlupin1980]

You know what, the more I think about it, I have a feeling that Ron and Harry's fight during GoF might be cut since:

a.) The films, so far, have NOT focused enough on Ron's insecurity about being poor and overshadowed so in the film, the fight will strike some people who hasn't read the books as coming out of nowhere.

b.) Editing out the feud does not affect the main plot at all.

c.) Rupert and Dan's acting ability may not be at par with the emotions required for such scenes.

UNLESS it's absolutely important in future books, Ron and Harry's fight in GoF is history in the film version.

[Spike]

You know what, the more I think about it, I have a feeling that Ron and Harry's fight during GoF might be cut since:

a.) The films, so far, have NOT focused enough on Ron's insecurity about being poor and overshadowed so in the film, the fight will strike some people who hasn't read the books as coming out of nowhere.

b.) Editing out the feud does not affect the main plot at all.

c.) Rupert and Dan's acting ability may not be at par with the emotions required for such scenes.

UNLESS it's absolutely important in future books, Ron and Harry's fight in GoF is history in the film version.


As long as they don't cut the meat of the story. The Ball and the Tournament i will be willing to sacrifice this bit.

[Witflick]

I wouldn't mind the Yule Ball scene being gone. I don't really see how it advances the plot, besides portraying Hermione as beautiful and the Ron/Hermione argument. I could live without SPEW also.

I think as much of the triwizard cup as possible needs to be kept intact, along with the world cup/dark mark scenes.

I read somewhere that the Dursleys are definitely going to be cut from the beginning of GoF. I wonder where Harry will have his dream about Frank Bryce then.

Witflick.

[Princeofdragons]

I'm the kind of person who would sit through a 20 hour movie if they got it all in.

I am intrested on how there going to do the bathroom scean though. They'll probibly put Dan in a swimsuite.

[WickedWitch21]

Basically, I expect that the Quidditch World Cup will be, if not cut, reasonably shortened. I'd be willing to let that go, too.
I also think they could dispose of the Ron-Harry argument, since it's not relevant to the plot. The same as for the Yule Ball.

[Firebolt_2007]

If I hear or see evidence that there is no Quidditch Cup there will be no me seeing the movie at all. As much as I love Harry Potter, I will not be able to deal with that. Reasons why you ask?


I love Quidditch and that bit in the book was a BIG perk for me...I had everything perfectly imagined in my mind and it was just heavenly and infinately better than school Quidditch in my eyes. If they leave it out as a whole I will be crushed.
Frankly, I am sick to death of them cutting relavant things out of the film adaptations of these books (i.e. no background on the Marauders, which they could have easily added another half hour on to the running time and explain nicely with no harm done) and adding "enhancements" that weren't in the books for the soul purpose of hollywood appeal (i.e Harry falling out of the Ford Anglia). Portkeys are a very relavent part of the overall plot of the story and we first get a glimpes of them during the lead up to the Cup Final, they also play a very big part in the plot of OotP with the attack on Arthur. If they left the porkey out it would benefit none of us.
well i've had my rant...I really couldnt deal with much being left out of the forth movie because most of the stuff in GoF is really important to the grand scheme of things

[Jillstar03]

Well, you never know really! It's a whole different ball game to POA! New director, many more important aspects to the series (well at least in my POV) than POA,with the Triwizard Tournement, Voldemort getting stronger, Barty Crouch working for LV and the Dark Mark at QWC!
The things I hope they won't cut or make too short are:

The Triwizard Tornement and how harry got his name in the Goblet.
The Graveyard scene
The pensieve
The Moody is B.Crouch scene! (That definatly needs explaining!)


Oh, and another thing. I am crossing my fingers that they do not end with one of the overly happy endings like they have done in the previous films! They even did it in POA with Harry riding his Firebolt off into the sunset! :lol:
The ending of GoF is much darker than that of POA! Lord Voldemort is powerfull again, and Cedric Diggory has died at the hands of him. I would much rather see the film end with suspence than with a definate happy ending!

[Kookiemon]

First, a brief speculation on the new director. Since the Director Mike Newell got his start in television, he will hopefully be able to create scene transitions better than the previous movies. The quick pace of TV shows will be applied to the "Goblet of Fire". The introductions and conclusions will be brief. The drama will be played out.

This is how I expect the movie to be made.

#1. An über short dream sequence of the old man and Voldemort.

#2. The next scene will involve the Quidditch World Cup. If the director makes significant changes it will be here. The director will show the equivalent of highlights. A brief introduction of the Malfoys and Winky. Immediately after the game is over we'll see the Dark Mark and all the panic that comes with it. For the sake of time, the whole incident will be summed up into "Mr. Weasley, what was that sign? Harry, that was the Dark Mark. The Dark Mark was a sign of Death Eaters, agents of Lord Voldemort. There are bad times ahead Harry, bad times."

- Things that will have been cut.
-- The Dursley's scene.
-- The journey to the Quidditch Cup.
-- The Death Eaters tormenting the Muggles.
-- Hermione's concern for House Elves.

The movie adaptations have yet to do justice to the books. Every person I know who has not read the books are utterly confused by the movies. Not only are they confused but they also get the wrong ideas about what is happening. It's unfortunate and will unfortunately happen again in this movie. What they need are extended DVD editions like the Lord of the Rings. I will append more of my speculations about the caning of the movie when I have time.

[~Tonks~]

Well I know the Durlseys will be cut... I'm betting it will start out at the quiddich world cup, or at least the weasley's house, since I think they have to introduce us to portkeys, even though they could do that post-quiddich cup. I think obviously the tournament will be in there, and I really want the scene where Beauxbatons and Durmstrang arrive, I think that would be cool to see the ship and carriage. I want to see the Yule Ball, but I think they'll probably have a different scene for Harry figuring out the egg. Maybe he'll go into the bathroom, but just stick it in the sink. I doubt they'll have him strip down and get in a tub. I want to see the Yule Ball scene but I think it will probably be shortened. And, I cannot wait to see the graveyard scene.

[edina_monsoon]

My friend and I have both declared this as our favourite book. I'm going to try and go through now and analyse... but I'm pushing for a 5hr movie with intermission, or Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Vol. I and then 3 months later Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire: Vol. 2, hahaha

Be warned, this will be lengthy...

Riddle House:
How will they film this? Will they move it's location - ie. to later in the film? I suppose they don't need the stuff about the Riddles dying, just in the room with Voldemort and Wormtail and Nagini and Frank. In my opinion it is the perfect opening... really thrilling and tantalising, and then, since they cut the Dursleys they could have Harry waking up with the pounding scar at the burrow, and Mrs Weasley comes in and says "time to go dear, time for the quidditch world cup!" OPENING CREDITS

The Scar/The Invitation/Back to the Burrow/Weasley's Wizarding Wheezes:
Then you can have a breakfast scene, where you cover everything in one line, like...
Harry introduced to Bill and Charlie - 'they're coming to the cup with us'
Percy's cauldron leaks and Mr. Crouch (Percy: Mr Crouch wants his Cauldron bottom report by Thursday, but I want to have it in for him by Monday morning. Ron: That'll change the world, that will. Front page of the Daily Prophet I expect, Cauldron leaks.)
Weasley's wizarding wheezes (Fred: we've been working on them all summer Harry. Ginny: We kept hearing all sorts of strange noises coming from their room. George: Wanna buy one of these Harry, ton-tongue toffees, makes your tongue 3 yards long, only 5 sickles)
I don't think they need Bertha Jorkins... everyone in the wizarding world except the students (NOT slytherins) seems to know about the Triwizard being run again. Wormtail could easily offer this information to Voldemort in the opening scene - though not say what it is exactly, just that their chance had arrived, they have to keep the suspense up.
They can finish with the "Last time, the final went on for a week...dragon dung...we sent it to him" joke, just for fun. Then maybe Harry can run upstairs and send Hedwig to Sirius about the scar, and as he lets her go, Ron comes in and says they're leaving.
There you go, first 5 chapters in under 10 minutes.

The Portkey:
Harry asks why Bill, Charlie and Percy aren't coming, Ron says they're apparating and Percy just passed his test, they set off. Mr Weasley explains on the way what a Portkey is, the organisation of the cup, and how wizards have been making themselves noticed by dressing strangely and erecting tents that look like palaces - which there is a montage of one they arrive, and that he got the tickets through work, etc. Now, for future purposes it's important to develop the relationship with the Diggorys. I love the way Jo wrote that scene, with the unassuming Cedric overpowered by his father. But at the end of the day its not essential and the relationship can develop once the champions are chosen. After all, the crucial part of that dialog is Mr Diggory's pride that his son beat the famous Harry Potter and with that quidditch match not expressed fully in PoA, the gloating would be confusing. Maybe the Weasley's and Harry and Hermione can just take the portkey by themselves.

Bagman and Crouch/The Quidditch World Cup:
You don't need the scene with Mr. Roberts, just have someone yell when the Death Eaters march - "they're the muggles who own this land!" I don't know if Ludo Bagman is essential either. I mean, they have omitted Peeves and Sir Cadogan, and without Bagman you can leave out all the betting/blackmail stuff with the twins. When they arrive they could have a brief look around the site, and the Ireland/Bulgaria areas, meet Seamus and Oliver Wood (please!) and the funny tents and fashions. They arive at the site, pitch the tent, Mr Weasley is fascinated. The three older brothers apparate. Meeting Crouch is naturally important - just an introduction and then Percy's grovelling and "Weatherby". He then says the match is just about to begin so they'd better start walking... off they go, up to the stadium, they buy the merchandise, and Ron, Fred and George tell Harry about Krum - again bluntly "We're going for Ireland, but they'll have to watch out for the Bulgarian seeker, Viktor Krum, he's amazing, hasn't missed a snitch all tournament, of course they're all flying on firebolts, just like yours Harry..." As far as I'm concerned, the box scene has to play pretty much 'by-the-book'; Winky, Cornelius Fudge and the Bulgarian Minister, the Malfoys, if you leave out Bagman, the voice can start echoing through the stadium and call their attention, the mascots - the opening show would be lovely to see on film, I hope they do it. As for the game, it would be nice to see, but it would be lengthy as you can't cut much out. You need Ireland to score at least 16 times, and the Krum to get the snitch, but then putting in the Wronski Feint and the mascots...

The Dark Mark/Mayhem at the Ministry/Aboard the Hogwarts Express/The Triwizard Tournament:
The Dark Mark chapter is like the box scene. The sequencing works perfectly and it is all soooo important to the plot. Maybe seeing Draco could be omitted, but apart from that, I really want them to keep the scene where they all have a talk about it before they leave, why the mark was conjured etc... The Ministry chapter can be dramatically shortened, all you need is Mrs Weasley complaining about Rita Skeeter's article, maybe on their way to the train station, then she can apologise for Mr Weasley's absence, as he had to go sort out a catastrophe with Mad-Eye Moody - introduction to character. They should also have Bill, Charlie and Mrs Weasley taunting them with the Triwizard (I wish I was back at Hogwarts this year). Ron can examine his dress robes once they get on the train, and it would be nice to have Malfoy's rant about Durmstrang and Hermione introduce the three schools - but Dumbledore could do that in a few lines in his speech. Don't need Peeves and water balloons, because the movie world doesn't have a Peeves. Moody's dramatic entrance would be nice, the sorting hat's song, the sorting can be done quickly. I favour the idea to omit SPEW - it annoyed me and Hermione's campaigning annoyed me, with that gone you don't need all the talk at the dinner table of house elves, just a few shots of happiness and eating and the Dumbledore can stand up... No quidditch cup, new DADA teacher - Moody enters, Triwizard. End.

Mad-Eye Moody/The Unforgivable Curses/Beauxbatons and Durmstrangs/The Goblet of Fire/The Four Champions:
Hagrid's lesson will be nice to see, gets the Blast-Ended Screwts into the story, Trelawny's class isn't important, only comical. It will be good to see Malfoy turned into a ferret though, just so Hagrid and Hermione can make fun of him later. They can't go without Moody's class though, just like Lupin's class with the Boggart. Maybe they can put the Slytherin's in the DADA class, like they did in PoA and Moody can get Malfoy then. Important things happen here, like the indentification of the curses, Neville's book, what Moody's eye can see, CONSTANT VIGILANCE, Moody doing the curses against ministry regulation, as Bellatrix says to Harry in OotP - you have to really mean these curses to perform them, so surely this is a clue to his identity etc. They could also roll the two classes into one and have the Imperius practical right then and there.
The Divination homework is again funny but not essential, I have already decided to leave out Fred and George's blackmail and Hermione's SPEW, so that leave the letter from Sirius - which IS important. They can have him write back straight away, avoid the tantrum time, and Hermione can scold him then, saving them from doing the breakfast scene the next morning - unless the just have Harry receive the letter the next morning??
The classes can all be omitted pretty much, but I enjoy seeing McGonagall in action. Sirius' letter is again important, and the announcement of the arrival of the other students. This will be like the mascot parade at the world cup, showy and it would be great to see, but they might omit it - however they need to arrive somehow, and Ron needs to get excited that Krum has come, and Hermione can say "oh, for heaven's sake Ron, he's only a quidditch player." The rules of the tournament have to be explained, and we should meet Karkaroff - for the tattoo reasons later. The twins' attempt to get into the Goblet should be shown to highlight the fact that Harry couldn't have put himself in there. They should also make it known that Diggory is the favourite for Hogwarts champion, and that all the students from the other schools have entered. They go to see Hagrid next but without SPEW, the only attractive part of this venture is the relationship between Hagrid and Madame Maxine. Someone said the story could progress without all this, which is true, but it has to be made clear at somepoint that they are becoming friendly because of their voyage in OotP and because Hagrid has to admit he's half giant (so Rita can write about it and so Umbridge discriminates against him in OotP).
I just had a thought, what if they have the DS and BB students arrive, then they - through magic, put all the names of the students of age into the goblet - or just make the goblet know - like the sorting hat, and draw the names in the same scene, then you don't need the day in between with Hagrid, and you can have the names drawn as in the book, etc. If the goblet 'knows' it proves again that someone must have tampered with it.
They could just have a bit of complaining about Harry, but then have Moody say someone may be trying to endanger Harry, as a powerful wizard tricked the Goblet and Dumbledore conclude that the Goblet is undefiable and that Harry must now compete. They could again cut the return to the common room, but the frustration is good, when Harry tries to convey that he did not put his name in the Goblet.

The Weighing of the Wands/The Hungarian Horntail/The First Task:
This chapter is good for a couple of reasons - we get to see Ollivander again (I like him), and the devilishness of Rita Skeeter becomes apparant. I don't really think they should leave RS out of the movie, because she is important in getting Harry's word out in OotP - and unless Hermione discovers her animagus nature, she won't be able to blackmail her.
Do we need Harry and Hermione's walk around the lake, well, depends on whether you want the Harry/Ron tension. Harry does need to write to Sirius again, and whether he does that on his own, or Hermione tells him to is irrelevant, whichever is less time consuming. He could do it when he goes up to his dorm after being selected for the tournament. Also, the attitudes Harry receives from the other students will not be very important, they can tone it down, just like they did when they suspected him to be the Heir of Slytherin. Draco has to enlarge Hermione's teeth, but that can happen any time before the ball. More classes. The ceremony - depends on how they treat Skeeter. The only other important part is the letter from Sirius.
The Hungarian Horntail is dependable. If you play down the Ron/Harry thing, the opinions of the other students and dilute Rita Skeeter, most of this chapter dissolves. Going to Hogsmeade is only important so Harry can arrange to meet Hagrid, but if they arrange it when Harry, Ron and Hermione go down for the day, they don't need Hogsmeade. Going to see the dragon is naturally important and will be lovely to see. If they want to do the Hagrid/Mdme Maxine 'ship, this could still be the date and Hagrid's 'eau-de-cologne'/axel grease scene can be here. The scene with Harry talking to Sirius is important, but maybe they could combine it with the next one, because Sirius starts to tell harry how to get past the dragon and is interupted by Ron - but without the feud, it just gets messy. Leave the warning about Karkaroff until next time, and omit this talk with Sirius altogether. Then, Harry can just come back from the forrest, go to bed, tell Cedric the next day (as Harry and Hagrid have decided that Karkaroff and Maxine will have told Krum and Fleur) - then Moody overhears and initiates the Accio Firebolt idea, as per the text. So Harry needs to learn the charm, and if he isn't technically fighting with Ron, all three could practice, but maybe just the Harry and Hermione. Does he need to practice at all? This could be a problem, as with PoA, leaving out too many incidental scenes (ie. the Charms class where they did the summoning charm) means that later events seem jagged and broken. Maybe Hermione can just say something like she was looking through past OWL exams and found this charm, so she learnt it, and now she'll teach Harry.
The task itself should play like the book, the Triwizard is the main part of the plot after all. Only, who will dish out the little statues without Ludo Bagman? Just get Charlie Weasley or Hagrid or someone to do it (oooh, how 'bout Moody? Gets him in there again), I say. And now Harry and Ron make up, so the fight that we haven't mentioned has disappeared.

The House-Elf Liberation Front:
Now Harry sends another letter to Sirius, telling him about the task, and Harry tells Ron about Karkaroff (but according to this, he doesn't know yet). There's also a nice little party in the common room - again, we can live without it. Again, depending on the playing of Skeeter, Hagrid's lesson would be interesting, it shows time's past (the skrewts have grown) and that it's now winter (with the snow in the grounds). I suppose from the class there can be a quick shot over to the Durmstrang ship and Ron saying "At least we're not in there." I do like the bit when they go down to the kitchens, and see Dobby and Winky, but without SPEW, I'm not quite sure how to get them down there. Maybe they do have a celebration for Harry, and they asks Fred and George where all the food came from, and they tell them about the painting and off they go? Maybe it's not really important. How about... now they have the talk with Sirius in the fire, where he warns them about Karkaroff, and as they are the last one's left in the common room and it's late, Dobby and Winky come in to clean, but Winky is drunk, etc - the kitchen scene without the kitchen or the food, or Hermione's campaign. But what to do about Winky saying Bagman is a bad wizard? Maybe I should've left him in. They also need to open the egg at some time. Maybe they were doing that in the common room - but that would wake people up, oh well.

The Unexpected Task/The Yule Ball/Rita Skeeter's Scoop:
What a great chapter, but you can do McGonagall "As a part of the Triwizard Tournament, the Yule Ball will take place this Christmas Day. Also, as tradition, the champions will open the ball with a dance..." Maybe Dumbledore could say this in his opening speech, or his speech to the DSs and BBs. Then, when it came time, Harry or Ron could say something like, there's an awful lot of people staying for christmas this year. Then Hermione could say, You haven't forgotton have you, the Yule Ball? You have to go with someone Harry and do the opening dance. Then play it out as in the book, but condense it to one scene in the Gryffindor common room. Oh but I suppose Harry has to ask Cho. This could be a long process. I guess this is why there have been rumours of cutting it. But it's so important to the ongoing story, the 'growing-up' bit. Please leave it in, please.
The Christmas morning scene is nice, where Ron gives Dobby the jumper, but there is another letter from Sirius that could be included - but it really just says keep a look out.
Good bits from the ball include "Herm-own-ninny", "Fraternising with the enemy", Maxine and Hagrid dancing and don't they also need to draw attention to the fact that Crouch is absent. Now there's the first of the Snape/Karkaroff encounters. This is again important, but suppose you can just tack the "Well flee then, but I am remaining at Hogwarts" bit to the end of the next one. The Maxine/Hagrid moment is important in general but then again they did leave out the Maurauders and the Firebolt. At the end of it all, Cedric has to tell Harry about the egg, and the prefect bathroom.
As far as I'm concerned, it's at their leisure to use Professor Grubbly-Plank's class and the article. I do want to see Krum dive into the lake - to show that he is working on his clue (not that we know yet).
Then, if you don't show Hagrid missing, you don't need them to look for him in Hogsmeade, and you could also just have Percy say Mr. Crouch is ill and sending all his instructions in by owl at the ball - so they don't need to go to Hogsmeade at all.
Again, sorry this is starting to sound monotonous, the scene in Hagrid's cabin is wonderful - so touching. Maybe Rita Skeeter and Hagrid/Maxine have to stay.

I wanna do something else now, I'll finish this later. Plus I feel disenchanted by the problems I'm coming across. Anyway what do you think so far?

[tabygrint]

I would be willing for them to cut the Harry and Ron bitterness toward each other...that was the most uncomfortable part of that book for me.
I think the Yule Ball should stay since it was so memorable in the book...but they'll probably change Ron's dress robes from how we imagined them.
I kinda hope they keep the Deatheaters tormenting the Muggles at the Quidditch World Cup...I imagined that part so well and invisioned perfectly how I wanted it to be done on the movie...but of course, you never know what they'll keep or cut.

[meg2089kul]

I agree. I don't think that they might put in the Harry/ron fight. The arriving of the Beauxbatons and Durmstrang students might be cut. They might make it very short.
I definitely know that all three tasks will be there and so will the World Cup. As for the Yule ball, I think that it's a pretty big chunk of the story to be cut out.
S.P.E.W.....in the passing...very short.
Rita Skeeter...not much. One interview or somewhat. She's still going to be in there because she started what went on to OoP with no one believing Harry.
Practicing for the tournament...maybe one scene. Definitely not sucking up too much attention.
Walking around the lake...maybe the first one (if they have the H/R fight).
Hogsmeade visits...not a chance. I don't think they'll have any room. The fact that there won't be any Quidditch games will certaily save time, but the tasks are pretty big.
Definitely the goblet scene, but not the weighing of the wands.
The Dursleys have already been cut out and I don't think that they'll have Sirius visiting them in Hogsmeade. The Pensive will also probably be cut out or just show the Crouch scene. The dreams, obviously not. I don't think that they will show Harry's dreams at all or him visiting Dumbledore because his scar hurt.
Hagrid's past will definitely be revealed, but I don't know so much about the article. They might not make a big deal of it. And...that's about it, I think. :)

[Remus Black]

Better be SPEW that gets cut unless it has importance in later books. :tu:

[Shauna]

I doubt they'll have him strip down and get in a tub.

Well, now, if they put Danny boy on a personal training program then they could get a lot more of the 18-24 female demographic into theatres. Can't you see the trailers?

[enter a buffed-up, glasses-less Harry carrying a busty and bronzed Hermione whose Yule Ball dress has been conveniently ripped during their savage battle with the tall, dark, and brooding Viktor Krum]
[booming voiceover]
Harry Potter and the Goblet...
[Hermione wakes up, gazes into Harry's eyes, and they share a passionate kiss]
...of Desire.

Wow, okay, so off-topic. Anyway, I would be more than willing to part with SPEW. It just makes me want to slap Hermione.

Shauna

[Spikey]

Why would they spend all the time, money and effort on finding and casting the prevati twins if thier where not going to be filming thier MAJOR scene. IE the yule ball. It makes NO sense what so ever to me. Don't forget that POA was 2h21m I'm sure they can get away with 3h easy. Aslo 2 of the 3 tasks should take not more than about 20/30mins max as thier not really that complecated. We don't actually see any one but harry against the dragons and that lasts maybe 5/10 mins if that. The 3rd task takes maybe a lil longer but not much. Leaveing lots of time for the the time betwen the 1st and 2nd task as well as the task its self and its aftermath which i can see lasting a good 30/45 mins maybe. thats leaves the best part of 2 hours for everything else. I would love to see the dursely in it as its probley the best scene with them yet. I'm sure they could cut down the world cup some and forget about spew. Most if not all of the clases could go too. I think the arrival of the other schools will be in due to that they can have some nice sfx with the carrage and ship appearing.

[Dead Star]

I wouldn't miss the Dursleys' scene, or the Yule Ball, or the Weighing of the Wands, anything involving Rita Skeeter, though they have to introduce her as she plays a role in OOTP. Oh and SPEW.

[Kaivey]

Good point Spikey, about knowing certain scenes will happen or at least be mentioned in passing, because of who is casted for the film.

I want to see loads and loads of time spent on the movie, so that we have a five-hour film including everything, LOL! IMHO, Krum/Hermione is the sweetest couple even suggested in HP so far. =P I would hate WB forever if they got rid of Krum's association with Hermione.

The obviously cinematic, money-raking scenes like the first task will stay in, weather we want them to or not. There is far too much, I've already resigned to the fact that GoF is dead, dead dead. Look at how they've mutilated the story so far, in other movies. I'd rather wait a long time and have something brilliant than wait half a year and have no house-elves, no divination homework, no Fred and George, and most of the rest of the story switched around and slashed up. And for the record, I will be the first at WB's neck if they kill/maim/harm in any way Fred and George's famous exist scene, just because they don't like Peeves...

[Spikey]

Thats a intresting point there kaivey. About them not haveing that scene casue they have'nt mentioned peeves. But i think they would have quite a LARGE horde of people trying to kill them if they removed that scene. Just casue he's never appreard in the movies before does'nt mean he can't be in OOTP as he does appear quite a bit more in this one than any other book. Lets hope the original actor they got to play him is still avaiable forget his name right now. but i remember thinking he would be perfect for the role.

[red_fairy]

I think that the Yule Ball will be cut out because apparently Pansy Parkinson won't be in the 4th movie.

[Spikey]

I think that the Yule Ball will be cut out because apparently Pansy Parkinson won't be in the 4th movie.


Sorry what has pansy not being in the film got to with a pretty inportant secene being cut ?? I mean if they had'nt all ready cast the patil twins i could see it being cut but not now as they have.