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wahsup86
June 9th, 2004, 9:37 pm
Being a Harry Potter fan, its hard not to be aware of most of the aspects of the latest movie hype. And in reading articles, interviews and other things in concern to the third movie, there seems to be a trend on Rupert Grint being ignored.

What I mean to say is in almost everything I have read, the focus has been on Emma Watson and Dan Radcliffe. There are exceptions, like the interview held with Emma and Rupert only, and the Rupert interview (with The Sun I think it was), but other than that, he seems to get the least time in the spotlight, there is a big gap in between the attention Dan and Emma get as opposed to him, and personally I don't think thats fair (then again he could personally be a recluse, I don't know). In fact an article in Newsweek said that they are all maturing, and that Dan and Emma espiecially are becoming very good looking, (or something to that effect) neglecting to say anything about Rupert, in fact from that point on, he seemed to be neglected from the article itself . I don't in the slightest way blame Emma or Dan, its not thier fault, but I sort of feel bad for Rupert.

Does anyone else have any thoughts or opinions on this?

Codemastar
June 9th, 2004, 9:49 pm
I'm sure that if he wanted attention or to be noticed, he probably could offer himself for an interview and pick him up right away. I personally don't know the guy, so I don't know if he wants attention or not. I mean, I don't REALLY feel sorry for him if he's making who-knows-how-much money on the movie in the first place. If I were an actor, I would personally try not to let the media bother me, but I don't know about him.

I'd rather give my pity to a poor kid, on the streets, walking around in rags. I would also rather give my pity to people in countries who are starving, have almost no education, and have almost no clothes. I mean, sure, maybe the press isn't paying a lot of attention to him, but why does it matter, he'll probably make enough money off of the who Harry Potter series movies to last him a good 10-20 years on his own without working.

As for the article about who's looking better, I couldn't care less. Although, not to judge other men, I have to say that Rupert looks REALLY... weird in the scene with the infamous hand-grab. No offense if he comes here reading this, but, just saying...

Stephen
June 9th, 2004, 9:57 pm
He strikes me as one who isn't big on being in the spotlight. Ergo, he wears jeans and whatnot to premiere of the movies. Concordently, he always seems stiff in front of an inverviewer's camera. Viv-a-vis... it's strange since he's an actor.

DarthSkywalker
June 9th, 2004, 9:57 pm
This is because he is the guy sidekick. Hermoine is one but she is a girl, giving her a different appeal. It is the Robin snydrome.

bowlwoman
June 9th, 2004, 10:04 pm
My mother and I were discussing this a few days ago. It seems that most of the media focus and even the MOVIE focus is on Emma/Daniel. I think a lot of this comes from the director of PoA.

There's an article in Entertainment Weekly that talks about PoA, and there's a quote from Cuarón about the actors. After I read it, I can't help but wonder if he really likes Rupert Grint at all.

Page 36, regarding the assignment Cuarón made to each of the actors to write an essay regarding their character:

And Grint? Grint didn't write an essay -- which is precisely what his underachieving Ron would have done. Says Cuarón: "Rupert is not with us. He is in a happier place, called Rupertland. He's a little like Chauncey Gardiner from Being There. Is he a genius...or is he a fool?"

This is at the least a back-handed compliment. I have a feeling that Cuarón's issues with Rupert lead to Ron not having as much screen time as he should have for the film. Which is sad, because Ron is a great character and I think Rupert plays him well.

Another reason could be that Rupert almost didn't fit the rest of the cinematography for the film. The film (to me) seemed dark, long and lean, in which Emma and Daniel worked nicely. Rupert, (and to some extent the characterization of Ron) is more cartoony. Not only his coloring and build, but also that he's generally more comic relief and he hasn't really come into his own in terms of story plots. He'll do that more in OotP.

bowlwoman

journee
June 9th, 2004, 10:07 pm
Codemastar...wow, a bit harsh in your response :huh:

I can see what wahsup is talking about, I feel they were only bringing up some points about Rupert that they thought were important. I'm sure we're all aware about strife and children suffering throughout the world, personally for me...and how much actors make, etc.

Rupert seems to be a very quiet young man, maybe not as outspoken as the other two but none the less an extremely talented artist. It could be that he doesn't seek out the spotlight as much as Emma or Dan has. Shame really, I find him to be a polite and charming teenager :agree: He also had taken the time out of his busy career to send an autographed picture and short note to someone in my family and that says alot!!

wahsup86
June 9th, 2004, 10:08 pm
And Grint? Grint didn't write an essay -- which is precisely what his underachieving Ron would have done. Says Cuarón: "Rupert is not with us. He is in a happier place, called Rupertland. He's a little like Chauncey Gardiner from Being There. Is he a genius...or is he a fool?"




Cauron has also said said that Rupert is a comedic genious, or something to that effect. I think his quote was a playful jab.

NashiraErato
June 9th, 2004, 10:17 pm
I think that the ending to the story didn't have very much Ron in it, and so Rupert got less screen time. Personally, I don't feel his acting is improving at the same rate as Dan and Emma's has and some of the more emotional or serious scenes are still a bit beyond his abilities...

RonFan24
June 9th, 2004, 10:22 pm
He strikes me as one who isn't big on being in the spotlight. Ergo, he wears jeans and whatnot to premiere of the movies. Concordently, he always seems stiff in front of an inverviewer's camera. Viv-a-vis... it's strange since he's an actor.

I completely agree; I think he's shy. I've seen a couple interviews with him recently and he seems like he'd rather just stand there and let Dan and Emma do most of the talking. And when he does talk, it seems like he's pretty quiet too. However, I don't think it's strange because a lot of actors are shy in real life.

Rupert can be as outgoing and funny on screen and I'm sure he's not shy around people he knows, but I know I would be shy if I was doing interviews all the time with people I didn't know.

As to Rupert not getting enough screen time as Ron, yeah that made me mad. Even in CoS a lot of HIS lines from the book were re-written for other characters. I don't know why Ron's book dialogue would be reassigned when he is in the scene. The film makers (whether or not intentional) made Ron seem one-dimensional. It seems to me that if they are doing it on purpose, it's either to play up the wise-cracking sidekick or they are skimming things that they saw were not important enough for the film. It sucks because Ron is my favorite character. He is so multi-dimensional in the books, but let's face it, the movie doesn't allow time to play up Ron's depths, especially in POA.

wahsup86
June 9th, 2004, 11:03 pm
One of the few things I noticed that is mentioned about Rupert is how he and Dan have become "practically brothers". Again something like this is mentioned for two reasons:

1) It's about Dan's personal, Rupert just happens to be part of it.
2) It portrays the image (whether accurate or not) that everything is hunky-dorey on the Potter set.

And whether shy or not, reporters don't give Grint enough credit when they write their articles.

sindatur
June 9th, 2004, 11:14 pm
I disagree with Cauron having a problem with Rupert Grint. In a recent interview he went so far as to say that Ron is the most likely to be able to move on into other roles after he leaves the HP Series, and that he is a comedy genius.

I believe it has been said in interviews that Rupert is more shy than the other two.

Frankie Inkblot
June 9th, 2004, 11:15 pm
I totally agree...why wasn't he included in alot of said interviews? I think that either most or all of the interviews conducted in North America were between Emma, Dan, and some other key characters from PoA. But no Rupert.

What bowlwoman said scares me a little (the part about what Cuaron had said about Rupert). Not that Cuaron said something mildly negative about Rupert, but also that Rupert may actually be the one on set who isn't really that into it. I'd be horrified to hear that Rupert was the first of the trio to leave the HP series. To be honest, he's the one I'm most worried about.

Rupert, also, however - seems to be really quiet and answers with generally one-word responses. That might make the press believe he doesn't want to appear on talk shows or give interviews...

You never know.

hollygo72
June 9th, 2004, 11:32 pm
As far as media goes. Rupert seems like a REAL quiet kid. Most interviews I've seen him on, he's said as little as humanly possible. It's a journalists nightmare.

Maybe the reason why Rupert get's "shunted" is because he's not giving the reporters any material to report on. Who know, maybe Rupert likes it that way. He could be thrilled to be flying under the radar.

Can't be easy being Dan or Emma right now. People speculate if their dating. They're "teen heartthrobs" right now. Everyone is staring them down and analyzing their every move. Meanwhile, Rupert is free to do his own thing virtually unnoticed.

RubberSoul
June 10th, 2004, 1:27 am
I don't think Rupert's a quiet kid or particularly shy. It may just be the fact that doing interviews and press junkets is a bit of a stumbling block for him. He doesn't seem as well-spoken as Daniel and Emma, so naturally reporters are going to shunt him to the side and ask Daniel and Emma more questions because they can give interesting and varied answers.

hollygo72
June 10th, 2004, 1:29 am
I don't find either Dan or Emma particularly "Well spoken". They just like to talk more.

dhfroggy11
June 10th, 2004, 1:39 am
well, of course but in gof harry learns that, its also in the mirror of erised.

dhfroggy11

harripottrfreek
June 10th, 2004, 1:42 am
I think the reason for less Rupert in the media is because he seems more in the background in this movie like Emma did in Chamber of Secrets...He's there, but not for the entire movie (ex: during the time-turner...it's Harry and Hermione)...in Chamber of Secrets Emma's character was petrified and was basically out for the last 30 minutes or so of the film. He is also just a kid and I don't think the media is really affecting him yet so it probably doesn't have an affect on him.

Weatherby
June 10th, 2004, 1:45 am
David Thewlis complimented Grint the most. That speaks volumes because Thewlis is such a brilliant man. I'd rather be complimented by Thewlis than reporters myself.

Ron was left out of the action as Hermione was in the final scenes of CoS.
It's how Rowling wrote the story.

Maybe Grint didn't have time on his schedule to give interviews.

dhfroggy11
June 10th, 2004, 1:47 am
well, i wouldn't say that he is quiet, i just don't think he likes interviews very much. daniel and emma just seem talkative. i don't know if you get abc on your tv,but they were showing sorcerers stone with extra footage, and they were talking about poa, and daniel and emma were just blabbering on, and stuff.

Rhanebeaux
June 10th, 2004, 1:54 am
I think that Rupert is just shy...another fact was the day after the USA Perimere of POA, Dan and Emma gave interviews and Ruper did not. This was beacuse he had to fly back to the UK to take finals at school. I think that was a major reason in him missing interviews. I'm sure the school would have worked around this, but maybe he didn't want it.

I think that Cuaron liked him fine. Also i think that Ron had a good amount of screen time in the Movie. Really in the book there isn't much with Ron...it's mostly Hermione and Harry, and they are in the end, while Ron is absent. THe only exception is where Sirius gets into Gryffindor tower and finds Ron instead of Harry, and that had to be cut for time allotments. I don't remember much about CoS' Premeire and hype, but in that movie Hermione is missing from some big scenes. This was just more of a Harry/Hermione ending this time.

I do think that the other two just enjoy the attention and like to talk. Maybe he just doesn't enjoy it as much. And we don't know, maybe he has things going on in his life that he was more concerned with. Maybe he just figured that the movie would do just fine without him giving interviews everywhere. As far a Rupert not being as good looking, i don't think thats true. I think he is very cute and attractive, just in a different way. he is just over showded by the bigger male character.

I don't think that Harry and Emma are all they well spoken either. I think they are just braver and go ahead and do it. Especially in Emma's case. (no offence to her, she is wonderful!)

Rupert had never acted before, where as Emma had done some school plays. I think she enjoys the spotlight and Dan has to deal with the spotlight. I don't think Rupert will be the first to leave the HP scene, because HP is the whole reason he started acting in the firstplace. Meanwhile Emma had shown previous intrest. And in her interviews and stuff, she seems to be the one talking about leaving more then the other two.

wahsup86
June 10th, 2004, 2:09 am
I'd have to say Dan would be the first to leave, if you remember he said he was worried PoA would make him "really famous" again. I think Rupert will be the first to actafter the movies, and by act I mean have something succesful, we keep hearing about how funny his sense of dry humor is, and thats fairly rare these days.

soccergoddess24
June 10th, 2004, 2:38 am
he's NEVER at anything!!! like on nick slime time live, they had dan and emma on, but no rupert? and i was reading this one article and it said something like "dan and emma are growing up to be beautiful teenagers..." and rupert was there too, but they just kinda ignored that fact i guess, poor kid! i think you're cute too!!! i think that article was in newseek....oh i just saw what wahsup86 posted as the first post, yeah i read that too! how mean!! but it's ok, bc i can assure you that plenty of people think hes good looking too lol, so dont worry rupert!!:)

fLoaTiE
June 10th, 2004, 2:42 am
Dan the first to leave? Naah.I think he's just started.I was drinking my Coke when the scene with him in the kitchen came on.The minute he spoke I choked on my Coke.I didn't realise he could act!He looked dorky[no offence to ppLe who liked it] in SS especially when he touches his scar and I think he's improved a great deal,so much that I don't think he's ready to leave.

I think Cauron should have included the bit on how Lupin knew how to work the Marauder's Map,so as to explain who MWPP at the same time,saving the trouble of confusing people who have never read the book.David Thewlis did a sensational job as Lupin,by the way.

Pumpkin Juice
June 10th, 2004, 4:27 am
Mugglenet has quoted Thewlis in a recent article and I really like what he had to say about Rupert.

But Thewlis, who joined the cast as Professor Lupin for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, thinks it will be difficult for them to have acting careers outside the series.

"The most likely is Rupert," he said. "I think he's the most natural actor. He's the oldest of the three. I can imagine him moving on. Emma's the same."

I couldn't agree with him more and it's nice to see someone recognizing Rupert's obvious natural talent. It really stood out strongly in the first two films - Rupert's natural acting ability could run circles around Dan's and Emma's. Emma was pretty good, but it seemed to come the most natural for Rupert and honestly, in the first two films, he shined I think brighter than his two co-stars.

Dan has come a long way as far as acting ability is concerned, I think he has shown the most improvement by far, but that's saying he wasn't as good originally and has really learned a lot. But even in the third film, Rupert is still the best I think when it comes to just a natural born talent to act. He impressed me extremely in the second film, Chamber of Secrets. Honestly, when I watched Chamber of Secrets, my impression was that Rupert had the best chance at a good acting career if he really wanted to pursue it. Emma's pretty much stayed the same I think, but she's always been a pretty good actress. I just think as far as acting talent is concerned, Rupert is by far the best. Watching the kids in the first movie - it's clear he was just born with it.

Why is the media giving more attention to Dan and Emma? Emma it's obvious - she's a young beauty who knows how to work a crowd and has such a presence about her on the red carpet. I think she looks like a young Julia Roberts and displays the personality of a star as you would think of them when they make public appearances. She looks like she has stars in her eyes and if you want to compare the three as far as appearances go, she's the best looking - which of course is going to appeal to the guys.

Now Dan is the star of the who shabang. He's also shown the most improvement because as I mentioned, his acting wasn't nearly so good in the first film, showed some improvement in the second, and has shown more in the third. He's also the one most teenager girls go nuts over, more so than Rupert. And similar to Emma, he does present himself well to the public. Dresses nice, outgoing, all of that. And of course, he is the number one star.

Rupert doesn't have the presence with the public that his co-stars have. Watching him show up at the premieres, for example, when they're dressed really nice and he's wearing dirty ol' jeans with holes in the knees, and with his hair style - he looks more like Shaggy without Scooby Doo. I've read that he's shy, that probably has a lot to do with it. Amazing for someone who is so shy though, to have such an amazing acting talent because usually I tend to think of people who are painfully shy as being too shy to act in front of anyone.

He's definitely no worse looking that Dan, although Dan has a cleaner appearance than Rupert. Rupert looks like he should be working on cars or something by the way he dresses and does his hair. :p But honestly, I don't think one boy is better looking than the other - it's all in how they present themselves and Dan has more of a presence with people than Rupert does.

But even though Dan and Emma have more of a presence with the public, Rupert can still act circles around them. I rarely see a film or tv show where any actor, adult or child, just blows me away with their talent the way Rupert has. I think it's a shame that more people don't seem to recognize it. They want to talk about Dan and Emma. But maybe even that will work to Rupert's advantage to being able to get other roles in the future if the media eye is not on him nearly so much. So perhaps that's a good thing.

I get the impression that Rupert enjoys the acting and not so much meeting the public. And I agree with David Thewlis that out of the three, he is the most natural when it comes to acting and has the best shot for a career in acting. Thewlis made a comparison to Star Wars, mentioning Dan was in danger of turning out like Mark Hamil from Star Wars. Who was the one person in Star Wars whose career really took off? Harrison Ford - and he's the kind of character that is comparable to Ron Weasley.

Neptune
June 10th, 2004, 5:48 am
I personally think that Rupert is the most natural of the three, especially in the first two films. I just think that Emma and Dan are finally becoming better actors then they were and are now caching up to what Rupert always had, and because of that they are starting to stand out more.

I have also been feeling that Rupert has been a bit "left out" of the spot light when it comes to the promotion of this movie, but we really don't know why, there may be a good reason for it all. Maybe Rupert has other things to do, and could not make it.

BUT, the way he has been treated in some of the news articles and by people on the media shows, is really terrible. Mentioning how Emma and Dan are becoming very good looking but failing to mention Rupert. I have heard this a few different times in the media now and it is awful.

Personally I think he is turning out to be very good looking! After I saw him on the interview / behind the scenes special playing during SS/PS on NBC, I noticed he is becoming a very stunning young man!!!! This is coming from a 24 year old female though, if that makes a difference....

Also, I don't think he will be the first to leave. I actually think he will want to stay on until the end. He has made it clear that he was the "Biggest Harry Potter fan!"

I think it will be Emma who will want to leave before Dan or Rupert.

SilverStar
June 10th, 2004, 5:54 am
I noticed that! That's just cruel! (in Newsweek). I feel sorry for him.

AWallZ0715
June 10th, 2004, 6:21 am
I agree with everyone that think that Rupert is the more talented of the three.

The mainstream media is always about the glitz and the glammour. A person could be the most talented person on the face of the planet, and if they don't potray that certain glossy cleancut outgoing persona, they are simply cast aside. While a more outgoing person could even do better than the talented perseon. It's all about the image, because that's what the public likes.

Personally, I have a big Rupert fan. I have noticed that he seems more reclusive than Dan or Emma, but I don't feel sorry for him or pity him. Why should we? So what the media can't see him for the talented young actor that he is? In the end, I see him doing more than his other castmates. If Newsweek or People or Star for goodness sakes, can't acknowledge it. Well then, oh well. Rupert is still a talented person.

(RUPERT IS A CUTIE BY THE WAY!)

hollygo72
June 10th, 2004, 6:38 am
I think Rupert is just as attractive as Daniel. Daniel has gorgeous eyes. Rupert has a wonderful smile (and lips). Both have great hair. Emma is growing into a stunning beauty. As far as looks go, she outpaces them both.

KCWM
June 10th, 2004, 11:18 am
Our society is much more focused on traditional beauty, and it seems that, in some people's opinion, Emma and Dan offer a picture much closer to that "tradition" than Rupert does.

I'm pretty sure it's not a big deal, because after all, Rupert has the money and the interviewers don't.

tarik
June 10th, 2004, 12:07 pm
Cuaron cut Ron's roles i think. For example there was no -sirius black attacking ron in dormitory- in the movie. And that sort of things made him stay at the back i think.

Mrs. Biggerstaff
June 10th, 2004, 12:22 pm
yeah with that whole ron thing, all the most of the times he was in it, he was being with Harry or Herimonie, there wasnt muhc of him in the film, but thats cuz cause of time restrictions, Cuaron himself said thatr he put the thigns in the film that he felt were important! but oh well
i must say i luve ruperts hair now it makes him look a lot older, after seeing the film, i think when he acted it didnt seem as fake as the other 2 if you see what im getting at
i think apart from lupin ron is my fav character in the books and the films

likeicare
June 10th, 2004, 1:13 pm
I don't think I could love Thewlis enough for paying Rupert that compliment--it's about time someone said something utterly nice about him. I think Rupert really IS the most natural actor.

Dan's performance, more often than not, comes out flat. Sure, the kid can lash out--but showing anger on screen is not at all difficult because there's not too much restraint there. Dan had shown signs of human emotion because rage is such a strong feeling that it can't help but show.

Emma's great but sometimes waht she says comes out a bit forced, a tad too scripted... there are times when she's a little stiff...she says her lines with perfect feeling but they are not usually well-timed

Timing is Rupert's greatest asset. His reactions come naturally because he knows exactly just when to say his line and what things he must nonverbally do to accompany the dialogue. He's one of those actors who keep on acting, and keep on doing even the smallest, almost unnoticable gestures to keep in character even of the camera's focus is no longer on him. I like watching how Rupert acts when he's in the background--because those moments prove how "into it" he is...

And what was that about Rupert not being able to handle serious scenes? I honestly thought (and this is not a biased opinion, I'm speaking from a film student's point of view) that he showed as much versatility as he can in the films. He had little to work on but lord, did his talent show. There were so many dimensions to his character--sarcasm, insecurity, temper, boyishness, hilarity,loyalty..he has shown a jumble of emotions--anxiety, shyness, anger, confusion, excitement, sincerity, bluntness... he's getting better at expressing them too... he got them down to a tee in POA. The way he was crying to Sirius when Scabbers was wrenched out of his hands broke my heart... The way he was screaming when he was being dragged by Padfoot was painful... he's just excellent.

I agree with Thewlis--who knows talent when he sees it--Rupert is just praise-worthy, and he WILL get even better.


I have really been irked about how the POA articles have been taking him for granted, but then again, as some of you have mentioned, in the 3rd film, Ron (my fave character) really doesn't do all that much. And though I sniffed resentfully at Cuaron's comment, I think Alfonso didn't shun my favorite Weasley intentionally. Kloves just took a little too much advantage of Rupert's comic timing, hence forgetting that Ron is not merely a comic relief.

And I agree with what has been said about why the media's "ignoring" him. A lot of people see him as the mere sidekick... they see Harry and Hermione as the hero and his leading lady... a lot of reporters don't get the "trio" thing.. especially if they haven't read the book before watching the movie... (i've even read one review calling ron a loser---i mean excuse me?!?!) and yes, Rupert's not very comfortable with handling all the attention (as he often says, "it's hard to get used to") and he IS very shy--remember the time when he asked Emma to join in on a phone interview with some magazine because he didn't want to do the interview alone? I think he IS more interested in the acting part, and he doesn't really mind not getting the attention... Rupert does things according to what he feels like doing and really doesn't pay attention to what the media says (he didn't even care about what people thought of his new hair do--and he didn't grow his hair to create a certain rock star-ish image on purpose, he just felt lazy and so he never had it cut)

but all this shunning might make his ego suffer and his career might to, if producers focus more on the fame thing than on an actor's performance.

But then again. he has already had his share of fame too. If I remember correctly, it was Rupert who the critics were fawning over in the last two films--saying that the young Grint ourshone his co-stars and would have a promising career ahead.

In fact, here's a compilation of what everyone thought of Rupert after the first two films (and Thunderpants) came out : (this is off Rupertgrint.net. it's a collection of excerpts from different reviews written by film critics)

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"As his unprepossessing sidekick Ron, Rupert Grint steals nearly all their scenes together, despite being made virtually the same height as Harry, presumably not to upstage him (in the book, Ron is taller). But then Ron's role is meatier, since he gets to react a lot more while Harry keeps things inside."

-Victoria Alexander, FILMSINREVIEW.COM

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" The marvelously named Rupert Grint steals the show as Harry’s pint-sized partner-in-mischief Ron Weasley."

- Todd Anthony SOUTH FLORIDA SUN-SENTINEL

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"The problem with "Harry” is, unfortunately, Harry. Daniel Radcliffe, who presumably beat out thousands of other would-be Potters, gives us no genuine sense of awe -- not at the wondrous things Harry sees, nor, certainly, at his discovery that he's been a legend since babyhood. The young actor, whose line readings range from the monotonal to the virtually comatose, is easily the weakest link in the film; one wonders what Haley Joel Osment might have done with the role, although, frankly, it isn't that rich -- not as dryly funny as Ron Weasley, whom young Grint makes so winning…”

-John Anderson, NEWSDAY.COM

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"Among the veterans, Alan Rickman is better than ever as the sinister Mr. Snape, and among the kids Rupert Grint steals Harry's show as his friend Ron. "

-By JONATHAN FOREMAN, NYPOST.COM

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"Rupert Grint, who plays Harry’s best pal Ron Weasley, also had a growth spurt between films, but he remains the ever ykid who grounds the story in earthy good humor."

- Jeffrey Westhoff, NORTHWEST HERALD

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"I am happy to say that Rupert Grint as Ron and Emma Watson as Hermione are both first class actors. Special credit has to go the Rupert as his performance is superb, he literally steals every scene he is in…" [compiler’s note: how could he possibly not, he is incredibly remarkable]

-http://www.domicilium.com/loganandglitz/reviews/g-hpotter.HTM

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"Grint's Weasley has much more to do in The Chamber of Secrets, and he handles the extra load with uncanny aplomb. "
-FLIPSIDEMOVIES.COM

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"The one who takes the film, though, is red-haired Rupert Grint (Ron) as Harry's sidekick. His facial expressions never cease to be howls of laughter from the audience. If this child actor were in vaudeville, he'd have top billing. "

-Marie Asner, TOLLBOOTH.ORG

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"Emma Watson as the brassy, brainy Hermione Granger and Rupert Grint as redheaded misfit Ron Weasley -- not only keep pace with Radcliffe, fleshing out their roles considerably, but also hold their own against the film's fantastic adult cast. "

- Rob Blackweider, SPLICEDWIRE.COM

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"Watson, unfortunately, has less to do than might have been hoped--she spends too much of the footage either stiff as a board or wearing an unflattering cat's mask (you'll see why in due course). The slack is taken up by the rubber-faced Grint, who once again steals many scenes by adeptly playing the frightened tagalong" [compiler’s note: I resent the use of the term “tag-along” but since praise has been given to Rupert, it shall be forgiven hehe]

-Frank Swietek, ROTTENTOMATOES.COM

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"Grint is perfect and so is Watson. Radcliffe is a bit wooden, but then so is Harry in the first book. The Hogwarts faculty is populated by some of the best Britain has to offer. Maggie Smith had no choice but to be brilliant as Professor McGonagall and the same for Alan Rickman as Snape and Richard Harris as Dumbledore, but Robbie Coltrane was fantastic asHagrid, and it's almost as he and young Grint carry the entire film." [compiler’s note: awww, he does, doesn’t he]

-Eric Lurio, Greenwhich Village Gazette

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"Ron and Hermione, on the other hand, are wonderful, with Rupert Grint so good that at times you might find yourself wondering why they didn’t call the film ‘The Adventures of Ron Weasley and His Friend Harry Potter’." [compiler’s note: haha! I couldn’t agree more!]

- Matthew Turner, VIEWLONDON.CO.UK

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"Emma Watson's Hermione continues to sound clever but really doesn't do much, and Rupert Grint's Ron continues to play the goofball, but remains the franchise's only real treat. "
[compiler’s note: To people who weren’t very happy with the HP movies, Rupert was the ultimate saving grace =P ]

-NIFLIX.COM

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"British director Pete Hewitt's movie has some charming touches, notably a winning performance from Rupert Grint - last seen as red-haired Ron Weasley in "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone"."

-Jason Best, BBC I FILMS

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"More importantly, rising star Rupert Grint (who played Ron Weasley in Harry Potter) delivers another terrific supporting performance as a child genius. "

-TISCALI.CO.UK

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"Friday saw the opening of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" based on the second book of the series. In my opinion, this movie far out-rates the first with Rupert Grint’s performance as Ron Weasley being one of the star attractions – his facial movements are superb and one can actually experience his fear or jubilation"

-Ailsa Windsor, OINGPLACES.COM

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"Grint, even at his young age is showing real promise for comic timing and I predict that he will see character acting success long after the Potter series has finished"

-GUESSTHEGROSS.COM

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"And as Ron, Rupert Grint again steals the show among the child actors. His voice now has a Peter Brady-esque crack, but there’s no way to not laugh at the way he crinkles up his face in frightening situations."

-Nick Rogers, ARTS & ENTERTAINMENT WRITER, THE STATE JOURNAL-REGISTER, SPRINGFIELD, IL

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"Rupert Grint is a delight as Harry's redheaded friend, Ron, with a perpetual frown of doubt that is highly comical."

-Joe Wong, MOVIEMUTTERINGS.COM

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"Grint shows he's becoming a delightful comic actor with a highly flexible voice. He quite capably handles much of the slapstick (some of the funniest bits involve his backfiring magic wand) and also gets the majority of the movie's best lines. Told to follow a parade of spiders to find crucial clues, the less-than-lionhearted Ron gripes, "Why spiders? Why couldn't it be 'follow the butterflies'?" " [compiler’s note: hmph. Just because Ron’s scared of spiders doesn’t mean he’s less than brave..that was so brave in fact--facing his greatest fear…oh well…]

- James Sanford, ROTTENTOMATOES.COM

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"Grint is particularly endearing as Weasley and displays a sharp comic timing for his young age."

-Michael Digiovanni, BOLDOPINION.COM

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"Rupert Grint, giving a supporting performance as Ron Weasley, has expanded his range of facial expressions. As well as the quizzical expression that was painted across his face for most of Philosopher’s Stone, he now exhibits a panic-stricken expression that makes him look like he is entering a look-alike contest as Smiler from Last of the Summer Wine." [compiler’s note—I think this should be considered a compliment]

-James Salter, CINEMASCREEN

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"The actor who shines for me in this magical story is Rupert Grint who plays Ron Weasley. He has a style all his own and is very entertaining"

-YAMPY.CO.UK

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"Still, it's Grint that's the standout among the three. He's a magnetic actor, and his facial expressions are priceless. Grint's the perfect comedian to Radcliffe's straight man. "


-Tim Lammers, IBS Network

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" Rupert Grint is definitely a good actor and he has all the potential to be the next Tim Allen."
[compiler’s note: wow]

-By Andrew Chan (28 December 2002)

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"This definitely makes the film more enjoyable and more enthralling. Rupert (Ron) is definitely the best of the 3 at playing his part. He certainly has become Ron"

-IMDB.COM

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"My favorite character in this movie was Ron Weasley. Although it was a tad bit disgusting, the slug part was great. Rupert Grint did an excellent job portraying Weasley. “


-Angela Jones, The Daily Anthenaeum


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there's tons more but this post is already too long. But there you go, I think people have just forgotten how great he is because of how the third film came out (My co-Rupert-fans and I still blame it all on Kloves)..as Ian Mckellen says "the better the role, the better the actor" and if the screenwriter doesn't give his character enough substance (as it originally had), Rup won't have anything meaty to work on/ but he got a fair share of the attention when PS/SS and CoS came out

My only fear is how he'll be handled in GoF. Remember the Ron-Harry fight? (of course you do) I'm afraid they'll exaggerate Ron's jealousy and make him look like a dolt... (*knocks on wood*)

Pumpkin Juice
June 10th, 2004, 5:57 pm
Our society is much more focused on traditional beauty, and it seems that, in some people's opinion, Emma and Dan offer a picture much closer to that "tradition" than Rupert does.

I'm pretty sure it's not a big deal, because after all, Rupert has the money and the interviewers don't.
I would not consider Dan beautiful (or handsome) in the traditional sense.

MagicianGirl
June 10th, 2004, 6:05 pm
I don't think that he was being shunted. Although, in my opinion, out of the three he got the worst line and scenes. But out of the three Rupert was he best actor . What crappy lines and scenes he was given he was able to pulled it off and I can see Ron in him even if Kloves tried so hard to make the character he was playing as a coward and buffoon when Ron was nothing like that in canon.

honeycombe
June 10th, 2004, 6:11 pm
i think (tho not sure) he's doing his GCSE's this year so that would be why he hasn't gone to so many interviews...

PaDfOoT5
June 10th, 2004, 6:21 pm
I think it is just because Rupert is really shy, and he probably turns down a lot of offers he gets because of this. I read an interview that he did over the phone, and he asked if Emma could join him on the phone because he would feel more comfortable. That shows that he is very shy and doesnt like the spotlight. But , he is definitely the most naturally talented actor of the 3!

ragga
June 10th, 2004, 6:23 pm
i dont think rupert is shunted at all...i kinda look at it that he was quite a main character in the last movie whilst emma wasnt as much and then it kinda reversed n this movie, which i find id fare...

i do believe he is the most laid back, and most talented...i do find him to be the best of the three so far with his comic timing and he has greatly improved...

ninakix
June 10th, 2004, 6:32 pm
Hmm. yeah. I don't know. Dan, with his little rockstar image, seems to be quite the media darling this time around. He's INTERESTING - he fits that image of being a serious, artsy, punky kind of guy, which is very popular right now. rupert, on the other hand, is just very much in his own world - like cuaron said. Rupertland. haha. you can't market that as well, unfortunately. though i see what you guys are saying about not being that open to the media. though his one liners actually are quite funny. "what are your plans after hp?" "yes, acting would be fun. but ever since i was little, i've always wanted to be an ice cream man. i thought that was the ideal job for me." i wish he could step off his shyness just a bit, it would help his career. but then, i really don't think he realizes. everytime he talked about the popularity of the series, he was just shocked by it. dan and emma are quite enjoying it, i think.
plus, i think dan and emma have a little "thing" going on and it's easier to get them together. ;)


i also have the slight impression that his and cuaron's style didn't work as well. i think it's obvious he knows alot about his character, but he's not the type to go write an essay about it. it's self-embodied knowledge. and i think cuaron really didn't mesh with his style as well as he did with dan and emma's much more intensive styles. (not saying rupert isn't intense, just... not in the same way) so cuaron may have had a hard time dealing with rupert. but he recognizes that rupert has talent, at least.
i think cuaron was the one who mentioned that dan and emma were growing up as beautiful teenagers, excluding rupert lol.

true_gryffindor
June 10th, 2004, 6:43 pm
Agree,
I think that the reason why he hasn't been in as many interviews as the other 2, might have something to do with the fact that he is taking his GCSE's this year.
As far as him beeing shy, I belive it was in the Sun interview where it is mentioned that he is so shy that he requested Emma to be on the phone with him.

As far as his lines getting cut in PoA, what I really didn't like was the fact that Hermione got Ron's "you'll have to kill us first if you want to kill Harry" line, taking away from him the one line that shows Ron as brave and courageous.
Now having said that, I think that Rupert's performance was good as always. I particularly like the scene in Divination class where he reads Harry's tea cup. The way he mumbel some words and played with the tone and volume of his voice was just great, and very characteristic of a student trying to come out with something good when beeing questioned by the prof.

- TG

hollygo72
June 10th, 2004, 8:04 pm
Could someone explain what "GSCE's" are? Is that the British equivalent to taking your final exams to graduate from high school?

Is Rupert graduating early? He's only 15 (turning 16 in August). Just curious.

dafyd
June 10th, 2004, 8:14 pm
Could someone explain what "GSCE's" are? Is that the British equivalent to taking your final exams to graduate from high school?GCSEs = General Certificate of Secondary Education - we take them after 5 years of secondary school (aged 15/16), then you can leave school.
If you carry on, the next year you get AS levels (Advanced Subsidiary - sooo pointless) and the year after that A2s, then uni!

Allan2
June 10th, 2004, 8:26 pm
i find it sad that rupert does not get the recognition he deserves
he reminds me of paul mccartney while he was a beatle
lennon got all the recognition, yet paul went on to bloom a rather prosperous career
i hope dan does not become another mark hamill or caulken, known for star wars or home alone
he will forever be remembered as harry, but i hope this is just a starting point for his career
as for emma, she has a fresh look and charm on and off stage, and will no doubt have future oppurtunities
see!!! even in this post, i go off on tangents about dan and emma. but rupert or so ive heard is the most natural actor among the trio. his role of ron will probably be more recognized later if a snuggly-poo relationship develops between him and hermione. *awwww*

nine3/4
June 10th, 2004, 8:51 pm
Mugglenet has quoted Thewlis in a recent article and I really like what he had to say about Rupert....I couldn't agree with him more and it's nice to see someone recognizing Rupert's obvious natural talent. it seemed to come the most natural for Rupert and honestly, in the first two films, he shined I think brighter than his two co-stars....But even though Dan and Emma have more of a presence with the public, Rupert can still act circles around them. I rarely see a film or tv show where any actor, adult or child, just blows me away with their talent the way Rupert has. I think it's a shame that more people don't seem to recognize it...Thewlis made a comparison to Star Wars, mentioning Dan was in danger of turning out like Mark Hamil from Star Wars. Who was the one person in Star Wars whose career really took off? Harrison Ford - and he's the kind of character that is comparable to Ron Weasley.

First of all, it's the reporter who made the comparison between MHamill and DRadcliffe, not Thewlis. Thewlis basically thinks Dan will be in danger of typecasting, although we don't have the full interview and instead might have a quote taken out of context.

As for having the natural talent, well, I thought Sean Astin is the most natural actor in The Lord of the Rings series and yet, Orlando Bloom (talk about being a minor actor in LOTR) gets the plum roles in other films. Whatever happened to Mr. Astin? Hollywood could be funny about who will be in the A-list or who will not. Obviously, this so-called "natural talent" isn't everything. And it's fine to root for your favorites, but let's not underestimate the non-favorites as well. Dan may not be your cup of tea (frankly, I find his acting more interesting than his supporting casts), but he could very well have the longevity in the film business more than you can imagine. Btw, the title of the thread is "Rupert constantly shunted." If Rupert is shunted now at the height of HP film popularity, what guarantees he won't be shunted in the future? I wish him well. I wish all of the kids well & really, I think none of them will have a problem.

ninakix
June 10th, 2004, 9:48 pm
Dan's acting style is wonderful. But then again, it's a whole lot of rage. I read in this in the LA Times: "the primary image associated with the films has been Daniel Radcliffe, playing the wholesome teen wizard Harry, with his trademark round glasses and his perpetual expression of faint surprise." I couldn't help thinking of that when I read this thread.
It's interesting because I think what makes a really good actor is someone who can play a person while just... I don't know, sitting and staring off into space. The simple things and being able to portray a person doing that is a lot easier than just sitting there screaming your head off. the hardest part about that is not careening off into fits of giggles. Rupert is certainly good at that, since a lot of the time he is just sitting there... reading... watching harry... all of that.

honeycombe
June 11th, 2004, 6:34 pm
yeah, having said that about GCSE's i think he's still quite shy as well cos emma and dan have done presenting and loads of tv stuff like mtv even last year and rupert doesn't. it's good tho, it means he's down to earth and will probably stay like that rather than being dragged in with the attention. like with dan there's something cocky about him i don't like... and emma's a bit annoyng but she seems really nice aswell so i guess its hard to judge. maybe rupert doesn't have a lot of self-confidence?

MadMuggle
June 11th, 2004, 7:00 pm
I think Rupert's quite sexy for a 14 year old.... Especially for "Ron" who (I believe) sounds completely and utterly UNsexy in the books. I think he'll make a sexy 30 year old one day. Look out girls.

Pumpkin Juice
June 11th, 2004, 9:53 pm
First of all, it's the reporter who made the comparison between MHamill and DRadcliffe, not Thewlis. Thewlis basically thinks Dan will be in danger of typecasting, although we don't have the full interview and instead might have a quote taken out of context.
Hmm... I looked at the article again and that comment does get a bit confusing because whoever wrote the article did not attribute that opinion to Thewlis or anyone. So if that is the opinion of the journalist who wrote the article - then I'll say "bad journalist!" It would be different if the journalist wrote "it might be tougher for Radcliffe" instead of what they wrote that it "WILL" be tougher. Who is this journalist to make such an opinion and why do we care what the journalist thinks anyway? But this is my own journalist education coming into play and the belief I stand by which is - journalists should just report the news and keep their personal opinion out of reporting the news. This was not an editorial piece, but a news piece on Thewlis and what Thewlis thinks.

As for having the natural talent, well, I thought Sean Astin is the most natural actor in The Lord of the Rings series and yet, Orlando Bloom (talk about being a minor actor in LOTR) gets the plum roles in other films. Whatever happened to Mr. Astin? Hollywood could be funny about who will be in the A-list or who will not. Obviously, this so-called "natural talent" isn't everything.
First of all - Sean Astin is a successful, accomplished Hollywood actor who has starred in many films which many people love. Some that I can think of - Goonies, Rudy, and Toy Soldiers. Lord of the Rings didn't break or make him, he was already an accomplished actor and his work hasn't suffered because of LOTR.

Since Return of the King, Sean has acted in one movie and one tv series that have been released as well as the voice in a video game, he has four films is post production, a tv movie that he is currently filming, and three more films that are slated as being in pre-production.

As for Orlando Bloom, in my opinion, he's getting roles based upon his looks because I really don't see much acting talent in him. Kind of like George Clooney - work based upon looks rather than acting ability. I don't know if Dan will be able to see himself based upon his looks or not - I personally don't think he's all that good looking, not in comparison with someone like Orlando Bloom especially.

Now I would argue with you that Sean Astin was the most natural actor in LOTR. I think Billy Boyd and David Wenham were that, especially Wenham and he had an incredbibly small part to play.

Don't diss natural talent. It might not get Rupert a whole line of leading roles, but it's likely he'll be able to get a lot of good roles.

fthing
June 11th, 2004, 10:13 pm
Although I have noticed that RG does not get a lot of coverage, it doesn't make sense that reporters should want to exclude him; he is the best of the three in his role. so either it's the boy himself, or I will certainly be eating my words during and after future movies

lorna
June 11th, 2004, 11:16 pm
Actually I find how Rupert Grint dresses kind of refreshing. So often I look at Watson and Radcliffle and wonder what's the rush to look like some twenty something supermodel guys. You got time.
Actually in the first film Grint was the kid I enjoyed watching the most. Just watching the expression on his face as he challenged
white queen on the chessboard made the movie for me.
The two are good too but they don't quite shine the way Grint does. Watson does sound forced (actually after all the praise heaped on her by reviewers I found I wasn't all that impressed), Radcliffe can be stiff.
I hope they can do a little more with Ron. One idea, stop giving
his lines from the book to someone else for no good reason.

Hermyownniny
June 11th, 2004, 11:36 pm
I agree with most that Rupert isn't really shunted - he just keeps to his own and letting others steer the boar. He is a wonderful actor, and a perfect comedy actor. I'm sure with more training, he would make a wonderful dramatic actor too. But right now, he is a natural at comedy. He stole almost every scene in the PoA. It could also be argued that might be the case because audiences can relate more easily with Ron's jokes and comments while Harry has to stuggle inside.
From all the reviews i've been reading, Rupert's been praised highly, and he's shown great improvement. Emma has also been praised and I thought her acting was much more better in this movie. Much more natural, and there was great chemistry between her and ron. Dan was quite good - he's improved, but i think he's still a little stiff.
Rupert might also keep to his own, because he's over all the hype, media and attention? He is the oldest of the 3 (but of course that doesn't make him the most serious) and he's just taking everything in his stride.

silvery orb
June 12th, 2004, 1:37 am
I think Rupert's quite sexy for a 14 year old.... Especially for "Ron" who (I believe) sounds completely and utterly UNsexy in the books.

I agree Rupert has made me see Ron as sexier. I think that description of Ron in GoF with the too short maroon PJs sort of killed the sexiness for me.

I agree Rupert has great timing. It's not easy to look scared all the time without being annoying. He has a real natural grace, while - I'm sorry to say - Dan's acting ("he was their friend") seems forced and rather flat to me.

Cueron did seem to focus on Hermione - I remember him saying she was the actor he most wanted to work with again. Ron's most important line in the book (in the Shrieking Shack) is given to Hermione - when she already has plenty to say. Why?

AurorSlayer
June 12th, 2004, 3:11 am
Just curious... Are both Rupert and Emma taller than Ratcliff?

tabygrint
June 12th, 2004, 3:17 am
I remember when I left the theater after watching Prisoner of Azkaban, I said "Ron wasn't in there nearly enough!" They cut out half of what he did in the book. He's always been my favorite of the three and I wish they could've showed him a tad bit more...but what parts he did have, he was wonderful at and made the whole movie good...and you could tell in the theater that everyone else loved him. I thought the people in front of me were going to choke on their popcorn when he was talking about the spiders in bed. Hopefully, he'll have more time on the screen in the Goblet of Fire.

PrettyVeela
June 12th, 2004, 3:18 am
I disagree with Cauron having a problem with Rupert Grint. In a recent interview he went so far as to say that Ron is the most likely to be able to move on into other roles after he leaves the HP Series, and that he is a comedy genius.

I believe it has been said in interviews that Rupert is more shy than the other two.


He sure did and agree with him. Rupert in my opinion has endless possiblities after the Harry Potter movies.

I've always seen Rupert as the quiet one of the movie trio. Daniel has no choice but to be out in the spotlight(He's the main character after all) and Emma is very vocal as well. Rupert seems to be laid back, but I think he knows his character the best out of all three of them and it shows.

In all the reviews I've read, critics give Rupert praise for his one liners and bringing comedy to a rather dark PoA movie.

meg2101
June 12th, 2004, 5:20 am
I, personally, am very glad that Cauron will be leaving for the fourth film. I did love PoA but as far as staying true to the book, he rushed, did not give Ron and the Weasley's enough air time, and either never read the book, or decided some important things didn't matter.

For example, the Marauders Map. Had he taken the time to have Lupin mention it at the tail end, a lot would have been explained to those who hadn't read the books ( shame on them, but all the same... ).

Also, when Lupin and Sirius were explaining to the trio ( Harry, Ron and Hermione ) in the Shrieking Shack, he really rushed them along. They didn't mention how James and the Marauder's were all Animagi and how once a month they took the hidden path to the shack. A minor note was that Remus imobilized the Womping Willow with an incantation, rather than Crookshanks running up and touching the knot.

Back to what this thread is about! I think Rupert shines past his co-stars and is equally handsome to Daniel. Both are very hunky, in my opinion, and can call me any time they feel the need. ;)

ninakix
June 12th, 2004, 8:34 am
rupert just seems stunned by it all.

yeah, i'm real upset about that line being taken away. it just makes ron come off bad in the movies.
i like the way rupert dresses as well... its got a laidback style to it. emma seems like quite the little diva these days. i'm not very hot on that, i like people that are laid back a lot more. as for dan, he needs to find something different to wear than a suit :D

Lupin_Lady
June 12th, 2004, 11:08 am
I love Rupert, and I think he doesn't get enough screen time. But as for him in interviews-- things to do with the kids being themselves, I get the impression that Rupert is rather shy. He mentioned that he didn't enjoy the hugging scenes filmed with Emma- I really think that he is just a very shy person!

EllieDelacour
June 12th, 2004, 12:09 pm
rupert as the actor gets shunted definatly - he has less screeen time true but that it partly because of the fact that he isnt with harry and hermione when they use the time turner. but also hermione steals some of rons best lines for example - 'if you want to kill harry you will have to kill us too' he was in that sceen and was able to talk. i think as an actor he by far over shadowed dan and emma in the first two movies but the reason why so much 'bad' publisity has come to him now it because the younger two have started to gain better acting skills. as for interviews im going with the felling that he is shy and or genualy dosent want the attention. he always dresses down for the premiers and sometimes i think if he could get away with it he would wear dirty clothes. (not smelly dirty just the used and unimportant look to them) dan always wears a suit and sometimes a nice tie. while emma goes the whole red carpet dress and hair. emma can be excused because she is a girl and its the type of thing we do and dan well he is the star so... rupert comes across as an indevidual. doesnt care what anyone thinks and does his own thing. maybe its as some people in here have hinted - rupert itsnt shunted he shunts the attention?
?Ella

honeycombe
June 13th, 2004, 11:42 am
Auror Slayer - I think rupert is the tallest (obviously) then dan and then emma but emma can't be much smaller than him cos at the london premier she wore high heels and was a bit taller tha him

hermione_g_004
June 13th, 2004, 3:58 pm
but cuaron also added like the spider thing in the dormitory...when he said the spiders were gonna make him tap dance or somthing like that, and harry goes, "You tell them spiders, Ron". that wasnt in the book

dumbleedore
June 14th, 2004, 1:24 am
Rupert being shunted has a lot to do with his actual role. Dan and Emma are the lead male and female actors- of course they're going to get a lot of the attention.

But you also have to look at the history of interviews- Emma and Dan are quite open, they talk and laugh and joke around with each other and the interviewers. Rupert, however, does get very nervous and tends to just talk about the same thing- I swear, if I hear him talking about those slugs in CoS one more time...

This also reflects in the movies- Rupert has the makings of a great actor. However, he just doesn't seem to 'click' with Dan and Emma on screen. Dan and Emma have wonderful on and off screen chemistry. Whenever Emma and Rupert have a scene or do an interview, Emma seems to be thinking 'why me'. In the movies, she always seems incredibly bored when Rupert does have something to say in a scene. Dan and Rupert do have on screen chemistry, which does sound slightly wrong- I am not meaning it in that way, but it does come across as forced sometimes.

Rupert gets overshadowed by Dan and Emma. They're obviously all really strong personality's and when you have three of them, one generally backs down. I don't really like Rupert- I never have- however, I am really looking forward to seeing his development as an actor away from the HP movies- he was rather enjoyable in Thunderpants and, as David Thewlis said, he could go a long way.

murgs
June 14th, 2004, 1:35 am
In my opinion the first movie would have fallen dead on its face without Rupert. He's a terrific actor with incredible timing. He is really talented and does have the emotional depth to play anything. As for looks - he is striking and very self possesed - very attractive. I don't think he's shy at all. I just think he has comtempt for "**". He doesn't exagerate, and thinks it's dumb when other people do it. As for the way he dresses, he's got real consistant personal style. He's 15. And 15 is about being a rebel, not conforming to the standards of others. I think he just doesn't buy into phony-ness of any kind, and it comes across in the way he interviews. And re the genius/fool: Clearly he is a genius and when one initially works with him it all seems so easy and elemental you wonder if Rupert's actually thinking about what he's doing. but I'm sure he is - don't forget that surrealistic still life he did for charity - an ordinary bowl of fruit, but comepletely upside down- the simple turned on its ear. That's a thinking man's joke.

GilyAnn
June 14th, 2004, 1:56 am
My mother and I were discussing this a few days ago. It seems that most of the media focus and even the MOVIE focus is on Emma/Daniel. I think a lot of this comes from the director of PoA.

There's an article in Entertainment Weekly that talks about PoA, and there's a quote from Cuarón about the actors. After I read it, I can't help but wonder if he really likes Rupert Grint at all.

Page 36, regarding the assignment Cuarón made to each of the actors to write an essay regarding their character:

And Grint? Grint didn't write an essay -- which is precisely what his underachieving Ron would have done. Says Cuarón: "Rupert is not with us. He is in a happier place, called Rupertland. He's a little like Chauncey Gardiner from Being There. Is he a genius...or is he a fool?"

This is at the least a back-handed compliment. I have a feeling that Cuarón's issues with Rupert lead to Ron not having as much screen time as he should have for the film. Which is sad, because Ron is a great character and I think Rupert plays him well.

Another reason could be that Rupert almost didn't fit the rest of the cinematography for the film. The film (to me) seemed dark, long and lean, in which Emma and Daniel worked nicely. Rupert, (and to some extent the characterization of Ron) is more cartoony. Not only his coloring and build, but also that he's generally more comic relief and he hasn't really come into his own in terms of story plots. He'll do that more in OotP.

bowlwoman

I'm very glad that Lewis complimented Rupert on his acting because quite frankly I find Cuaron's comment out of line, rude, inconsiderate and quite harsh since he's talking about a child actor here not a grown up.

For someone who alegedly loved the three kids I'm sorry but my opinion is that his doing a sucky job at showing it. As a parent I'm surprised that the parents of this kid aren't outrage at his comment. It's so rude specially because it's posted on a printed media where anybody can read it and missinterpreted as him(Rupert) being a bit stupid on real life. His comments even shows how little he understood the character.

I find Cuaron's job in the PoA was out of character in PoA and he chopped off the plot. Sure it's fast and it has brilliant cinematography but a little plot wouldn't have hurt the movie. I can only hope that Mike Newel does a better job with GoF.

Gily Ann

Da_Chinkster
June 14th, 2004, 2:00 am
This also reflects in the movies- Rupert has the makings of a great actor. However, he just doesn't seem to 'click' with Dan and Emma on screen

I agree and I think this has a bit to do with Rupert being older than the pair. I know it doesnt seem a lot one or two years but you have to rememeber back when you were that age. I dont mean so much now but when they first started, Rupert would have been first year of secondary school where its a lot more segregated into the years/grades. Both Dan and Emma would have been in Primary school which is easier to mix with other years. Therefore when they started filming PS/SS It hink it was easier for Dan and Emma to bond and this bond can only get stronger after working together for three years. Rupert did not have as strong a bond and therefore it shows. It is also to bond with girls a lot easier when you are younger. This is my theory and is only based on my experiences in the past.

Also Rupert was shunted from this past film I feel because he had a smaller role. For a good 3/4 to an hour of the film (time turner bit) he wasnt there. Therefore as Dan and Emma have the bigger roles they'll get more attention

bowlwoman
June 14th, 2004, 3:48 am
I'm very glad that Lewis complimented Rupert on his acting because quite frankly I find Cuaron's comment out of line, rude, inconsiderate and quite harsh since he's talking about a child actor here not a grown up.

For someone who alegedly loved the three kids I'm sorry but my opinion is that his doing a sucky job at showing it. As a parent I'm surprised that the parents of this kid aren't outrage at his comment. It's so rude specially because it's posted on a printed media where anybody can read it and missinterpreted as him(Rupert) being a bit stupid on real life. His comments even shows how little he understood the character.

I find Cuaron's job in the PoA was out of character in PoA and he chopped off the plot. Sure it's fast and it has brilliant cinematography but a little plot wouldn't have hurt the movie. I can only hope that Mike Newel does a better job with GoF.

I completely agree, but then, I would, since you agreed with me to begin with. :D

I think that Cuarón did misinterpret a lot of things in the story, but I don't think he's completely at fault. He and Kloves decided to cut quite a few scenes before they started filming, so there are a lot of things we won't even get to see in deleted scenes on the DVD.

I do hope that GoF is better, but with Kloves still at the helm, I have a feeling it might have some of the same problems. The first 2 movies were closer to the books because Columbus favored a close working relationship with Rowling, but with Cuarón having stepped outside those limitations, I can't see any future directors/screenwriters going back.

Back to the Rupert/Ron issue, I hope they don't cut his scenes in the next movie like they did in PoA. I pretty much most if not all of the Quidditch World Cup being cut, where the Weasley family plays a very important part. Ron's pretty important to the plot of the rest of the story, but they may truncate or completely cut his fight with Harry at the beginning of the Tournament. Even though he's the lost object in the 2nd task, and there's always the fun of the Yule Ball, most of the action centers on Harry. How, if they cut Ron's screen time and give it to Hermione, that would just be completely unforgiveable.

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darklordspal
June 14th, 2004, 3:57 am
Hi folks,
I have to say that I was disappointed with the POA film because RG had less time on screen than I hoped. I think AC wants to intellectualize(is that a word?) alot of his work and RG doesn't feel that is needed. I'm glad that Emma improved enough as an actor to take the added weight, but the interactions of the trio that I enjoy so much were out of balance. At this rate Hermoine's character will not need Harry to deal with the most evil force in the wizarding world. When you can get werewolves to come at your call and pick up a 100 lb.+ man and throw him into a small 2 foot wide hole with one arm...well, you are person to be reckoned with! Seriously, there doesn't seem to be any jealousy among the trio of actors, which is a marvel. I do hope the next movie has a better balance between the characters, and between artistry and plot.

Dottie
June 14th, 2004, 3:59 am
I would not consider Dan beautiful (or handsome) in the traditional sense.

Brad Pitt is beauty. Johnny Depp is beauty. Dan is cute. :p So yes, I agree. ;)

true_gryffindor
June 14th, 2004, 6:34 am
However, he just doesn't seem to 'click' with Dan and Emma on screen. Dan and Emma have wonderful on and off screen chemistry. Whenever Emma and Rupert have a scene or do an interview, Emma seems to be thinking 'why me'. In the movies, she always seems incredibly bored when Rupert does have something to say in a scene. Dan and Rupert do have on screen chemistry, which does sound slightly wrong- I am not meaning it in that way, but it does come across as forced sometimes.
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I think you probably get the impression that Rupert doesn't "click" with Dan and Emma because he usually steals every scene the 3 of them have together. They seem to get allong pretty good of camera though.

Maybe Rupert doesn't enjoy giving interviews, which is why we see much more of Dan and Emma. I mean, I can't imagine him looking forward to an interview when he gets really nerveous about them (so much so that he had to ask Emma to give an interview with him).

Finally, I don't think that AC dislikes RG. In one of the behind the scenes footage, there were seen joking arround. The "Rupertland" comment can be viewed both ways, as compliment or as a mean joke. I guess we would have to see the way AC said it (tone and context) to see exactly what he meant by it.
Ron did not have as much screen time as in the previous movies but this is understandable since he is not in the final sequence of PoA (time-turner).
I did not like the fact that Hermione got his "you'll have to kill us before you kill him line". I mean that one line shows what Ron is all about. But maybe having Hermione say it worked better in camera???

Picko
June 14th, 2004, 11:59 am
Ron was always destined to be 'shunted' in the movies. If you follow the books closely you will realise that he's very replacable. Whereas Hermione and Harry are rather unique in their personality and abilities, Ron is rather ordinary. Sure he's Harry's friend and that makes him important in a novel format but when you expand that to film and have a limited time span to show everything his importance will disappear. Unfortunately for Ron fans, that will not change. He'll certainly have a handful of comedic scenes throughout each movie but he's unlikely to be a major player unless JK increases in overall importance in the last two books :)

dumbleedore
June 14th, 2004, 12:03 pm
I think you probably get the impression that Rupert doesn't "click" with Dan and Emma because he usually steals every scene the 3 of them have together. They seem to get allong pretty good of camera though.

I get that impression because when they do have a scene all together, Dan and Emma seem to be able to react off each other better than Emma/Rupert, Dan/Rupert or all three. I agree that off camera, when they get caught behind the scenes mucking around, they click- however, even then, you see Dan and Emma clicking more- I think in the end it goes back to the age difference that was mentioned earlier- blast, forgotten who it was :p.

Loz
June 14th, 2004, 1:11 pm
I think dumbleedore is tainted by her hatred of my darling Ron :p. I'm sorry, but I disagree about the onscreen chemistry. I think Emma and Rupert work very well on screen together. I certainly think they did the scenes that suggested teenage hormonal influences well.

I'm going to discuss the main subject - of the media shunting Rupert, and also the one that's occured - of the films and novels shunting Ron.

I don't think Ron is shunted to the side in the films because of Rupert. I think you have to realise there's only so much you can fit in a film. Ron does have a backseat in the Time Turning scenes of PoA, which makes up a large portion of the film. It's only natural that Harry and Hermione should have those scenes together - meaning increased screentime for Daniel and Emma.

In a very sister-like way, Hermione tends to comfort Harry as well... so the scene in Hogsmeade also makes perfect sense. Ron, as a teenage boy, can't handle things like crying. However, unlike Picko's assumption - it is really Ron's strength in certain moments in the books which keeps Harry going. He is far more upset by his distance from Ron than his distance with Hermione (boys will be boys). He relies on both of his friends for different things, and I think the actors portray that passably well. Obviously you're not going to get the chemistry and dynamics present in a novel in a film, but I still think it translates.

Rupert does seem to be shunted by the media a bit, but there are several reasons for that. When he was younger, Rupert was rather outgoing, he was giggly, happy to answer questions, and rather enthuiastic. That's when he was a kid with little expectations or anticipation. He is now older. He's in his mid-unfortunate-teens. He's notably older than his other two co-stars and as they have grown more confident, he's grown rather shy and distant. He probably doesn't want much attention. He seems to step to the side when cameras are around. As Cuaron said (and I think you've taken his words the wrong way) - he's in Rupertland. Many teenagers go into this state, where they're seemingly divided from the rest of the world. I don't think he brings this to his performance as Ron, because he's a fine young actor. He's also not considered as photogenic as his younger comrades. There's this odd tradition where red-headed females get all the attention whereas red-headed males are largely ignored.

It comes to him being perfectly happy for the others to have the limelight. Whilst Daniel and Emma are standing there, happy to pose, he's off in Rupertland waiting to get back to being his teenage-self. You might find the other two doing the exact same thing in the next year and a half, as acne, teenage angst and cynicism start to become more apparent in their psyche.

dumbleedore
June 14th, 2004, 1:17 pm
I think dumbleedore is tainted by her hatred of my darling Ron

I freely admitted that I don't like him :p. I'm actually trying to keep my opinion down a little- you know what I get like when I'm trying to force my point :p I could go on for weeks.

Rupert does seem to be shunted by the media a bit, but there are several reasons for that. When he was younger, Rupert was rather outgoing, he was giggly, happy to answer questions, and rather enthuiastic. That's when he was a kid with little expectations or anticipation. He is now older. He's in his mid-unfortunate-teens. He's notably older than his other two co-stars and as they have grown more confident, he's grown rather shy and distant. He probably doesn't want much attention. He seems to step to the side when cameras are around. As Cuaron said (and I think you've taken his words the wrong way) - he's in Rupertland. Many teenagers go into this state, where they're seemingly divided from the rest of the world. I don't think he brings this to his performance as Ron, because he's a fine young actor. He's also not considered as photogenic as his younger comrades.

That's what I was semi-trying to get at with my point earlier about 'strong personalities'. All three have strong personalities and Rupert is basically stepping out of the media and letting Dan and Emma shine- perhaps when they're away from the media, Rupert is the one who shines.

They're certainly an interesting set of people to watch in the public eye- I love watching people body language and everything like that and Dan, Rupert and Emma are the most fun to study :D

Tahi
June 14th, 2004, 5:09 pm
In the end it might be better for Rupert to be a bit shunted.

As far as I know Dan and Emma havent made any other film while doing the Harry Potter movies while Rupert has, and while Dan and Emma are the most popular in the media it also means that it's more than likely going to be alot more harder for them to get other roles if they continue acting.
And when Rupert is mentioned it's normally a great review because of his acting.
But when Dan and Emma are mentioned it's almost always said how beautifully at least one of them have grown, not so much on the acting.
And even when the acting is mention I find it hard to see how people can call Emma 'the new Julia Roberts' etc etc, when they have only have played one character and theyv'e played it for three years, yes Dan and Emma are fine as Harry and Heirmonie, and though I know Dan has been in a few things before the HP movies, thats all most of us know them for, which in the end doesn't show us to much varitey in there acting ability, it only shows us that that they can play that one role well [arguably].

So maybe Rupert isn't on the as many covers as Dan and Emma, but he probably has a better chance of being on covers after Harry Potter.

Saol
June 14th, 2004, 6:48 pm
I think Rupert is a person who is very timid and shy. I am quite sure that if he wanted to be in an interview, he could get one very easily. That's a quality that may not be too good for actors, but I really love him that way, even though I'd love to hear more about him. I don't think that the media is choosing to ignore Rupert, I think Rupert is choosing to ignore the media, which could work out well on his part... IMO.. not having to worry about as many nasty rumours.

honeycombe
June 14th, 2004, 8:45 pm
I think evryone has made fair points - perhaps the movies have had the effect of making him more self-conscience rather than confident like dan and emma, and yeah he probably is really shy (and i don't think the fact that everyone keeps saying he's the worst looking out of the three helps!). But then there is the matter of his GCSEs this year so i guess we won't really know until the next movie comes out...

AWallZ0715
June 15th, 2004, 12:39 am
but cuaron also added like the spider thing in the dormitory...when he said the spiders were gonna make him tap dance or somthing like that, and harry goes, "You tell them spiders, Ron". that wasnt in the book

Like many others have said before, this was probably added for comic relief. I really felt that all the character of Ron Weasley in POA was, was comic relief.

estival7
June 16th, 2004, 6:12 am
Seriously, rupert is just shy, weird because his shyness increases as he grows older... he is much less animated than emma for instance. note that since the beginning of time, all his answers in interviews were 'yeah', 'cool', 'yeah, i agree'... i remember reading so many interviews, where emma will talk for like one paragraph and ron will answer with a word. emma says that drives her nuts. It drives me nuts too... sometimes.

Drusilla
June 16th, 2004, 7:38 pm
Firstly,I have to say I agree with Loz about everything-and Alfonso Cuaron,as a man who's dealt with child stars,and with the media,before,just doesn't seem the sort to make a mean comment about one of his child (??) actors in print-a lot of people are taking it entirely out of context.I think Rupert's performance is much better in PoA for having toned down a bit,and I can't agree with whoever said he doesn't play as well off the other two as they do with each other-his scenes with Emma,in particular, were brilliant.And the scene with Sirius attacking Ron was filmed-Chris Rankin said so-along with a couple of hugs between Ron and Hermione,but they were cut from the final version to keep the length down.
Dan and Emma get a lot more attention because,as of this movie,their characters had a lot more to do.And Dan is the leading man of the series,Emma is the only (non-love-interest) female lead and also a young actress with an incredible screen presence who's gone from being an adorable little girl to a raving beauty-it's natural they'd get attention.They can't help it,and we shouldn't blame them for it.If Rupert is out of the media spotlight,it's most likely to be because he wants it that way-he doesn't seem too comfortable with all the extra stuff they have to do as part of movie promotion,which Dan seems to take in his stride and Emma seems quite okay with.As kids,they dealt with the media in their own way-none of them really seemed overjoyed by all the attention IMO.It's not all intelligent stuff-it can't be too much fun for Dan to be on Regis and Kelly with hosts who not only seem completely HP-illiterate but can't pronounce the name of Michael Gambon-one of Britain's greatest living actors-correctly (Dan had to correct them).
So,to sum up:I don't think Rupert is being ignored by the media:if he's happier being low-key,he has every right to be that way (and I think he is,if he's so media-shy he didn't want to do a phone interview alone).Dan and Emma are growing up to be physically beautiful teens-I had to gasp when I saw the New York premiere photographs-and the Newsweek article was unfair,but the extra attention they're getting isn't their fault,or Rupert's.I found it really rather cool that he went back to school to take his GCSEs right after the premiere,even though something could've been worked out if he stayed back-to me,it shows just how much he wants a normal life,and how the kids work to have it that way.

miss_hyde
June 17th, 2004, 4:55 pm
I think dan and emma get along because they flirt like crazy. Also because they are the ahem so called "better looking" two and also have more of a main role in POA. I like how rupert is low key and that he answers questions with "cool, yeah, its cool". He's a boy of few words. very appealing, none of this over the top business like emma or the I talk funny and love emma like dan.*

*I'm joking by the way. Don't hate me. I just think they both flirt a little with each other. I saw an interview with all three of them recently and those two just talked to each other and laughed and carried on and dear rupert just sort of sat there. I think maybe because he is a little older. plus I think he and dan are a little different. I mean would they be friends if they met and didn't work together on HP? I don't think so.

John Quint
June 17th, 2004, 10:17 pm
I'm very glad that Lewis complimented Rupert on his acting because quite frankly I find Cuaron's comment out of line, rude, inconsiderate and quite harsh since he's talking about a child actor here not a grown up.


I read the same article sometime ago and walked away thinking "Well, that was a bit out of line." I have to wonder if Cuaron and Rupert had an off screen tension between them. I have done some theatre in the past and know how such things can come into being.

Personally, I think Rupert is an excellent actor. I think all three of them are great. However, let's remember, it's called "Harry Potter &..." not "Ron Weasley &." He isn't the lead in the film and while it's sad, there can only be one real lead in a major motion picture.

Again, from what I've seen, all three and in fact all of the actors within the Harry Potter franchise have done a great job. Is there room for improvement? There is for anyone and everyone, regardless of their profession.

kitkatcake1988
June 19th, 2004, 4:34 am
I think he's just one of those actors who aren't into the whole Hollywood scene and maybe he just doesn't like so much publicity. You can kind of tell from his interviews. He'll say like 4 words while the other two can ramble on for a while, and also he has a pretty quiet voice compared to them.
Many fantastic actors absolutely hate going to award shows and usually just don't give a **** what they look like. I mean, more publicity doesn't always mean better actor. ::cough cough:: J.Lo. I personally think that he is very wise to try as much as possible to be private especially at such a young age.

CaritoC
June 19th, 2004, 5:38 am
I think that Rupert has gotten used to not being in all the interviews. Maybe it's better this way. When I was watching all the interviews Dan and Emma did I kept thinking "where Rupert?".

As for his looks I always thought (and don't hate me for saying this) Rupert looked like a monkey. In the way people said that the Olsen Twins (or Mary-Kate o. and Ashley O. like they now wan to be called) reminded them of monkeys when they were younger. Now hes HOT. I was at the premiere and most of the girls around me were waiting for Rupert.

Rupert is the best actor out of all of them. He can handle so many emotions so naturally unlike Dan. Don't get me wrong Dan is good but every once in a while his expressions look so forced. I don't think AC was trying to insult Rupert I think he was badly interpreted, being hispanic(Ecuador!!!) I know how you can make mistakes and things can get lost in translation (By the way I've been speaking english most of my life and I still make mistakes).

I hope more people start paying more attention to Rupert in the next movie. He deserves it.

NiCk RiDdLe
June 19th, 2004, 5:53 am
Well yes, it is unfair and he is getting a little left out but you know thats kind of the way things are. The girls obvioulsy get a lot of attention naturally and the MAIN character gets a lot of attention too. Rupert is like the third man. He could get attention if he really wanted to. He's probably one of those people who like to be left alone a little bit. Not everyone likes being in the spot light 24/7. It is true they are all getting older and more attractive. Heck look at Emma, shes become a very beautiful young woman who even i'd like to date.

honeycombe
June 19th, 2004, 8:38 pm
I agree with nick riddle about rupert being the third man. Even rupert's kinda the third man. I mean when the first movie came out and they made toys and stuff there were loads of dolls of hermione and harry and none of ron! that's when it first hit me. So i guess add this fact to rupert's shyness and you get the issue we are talking about now.

ragga
June 19th, 2004, 8:40 pm
heres what i believe, ive mentioned this already, got no reply so im goin 2 try and make my point again, hopefully this time it may b read

i think movie 2 its more harry + ron because hermione spends most of the movie petrified

so maybe movie 3 is mainly harry and hermione because its kinda even then isnt it...

honeycombe
June 19th, 2004, 8:41 pm
Soz for above. I meant to say 'even ron's kinda the third man'. :)

Hestia Jones
June 25th, 2004, 1:01 am
The only thing I have to say is that I love Rupert. And if he is a little bit ignored is because he doesn't need the cameras all the time...

true_gryffindor
June 29th, 2004, 7:03 pm
No wonder he doesn't do much press...have you guys seen the video from a Japanese interview with Cuaron and Heyman?
Rupert looks really unconfortable and shy, all his ansewrs are very short.
But oh well, he is still the coolest of the three...

Safia
June 29th, 2004, 7:42 pm
I haven't watched many Harry Potter interviews on tv, but he does appear to be the shier out of the three. I actually like Rupert - Ron was one of my very favourites in the books and when I saw the movie he became my favourite once again. I think he plays an excellent Ron and I agree with DT, he will be the one who will go far. Why? Perhaps because he isn't in the media spotlight so much as Dan and Emma.

He's really funny and no he doesn't have the near-typical good looks I think Dan will grow into. However I think he is better looking then Dan, because of this. He has a very appealing face, kind and a bit open.

Maybe the media shunt him because he is shier then the other two and maybe also because he is the middle man out of the three. Hermoine is the 'hot' one. Harry is the hero and Ron is the girl's best friend. He does however get to kiss Hermoine one day. I read in an interview once that he hoped Ron was going to die before that happened, but that could have been when he was a lot younger and you know what it is for young kids.

It might very well be a good thing that he's staying out of the limelight, because otherwise he might always be plagued by it. Have you noticed that some of the good and well respected of actors are those who aren't always in the media all the time for what shoe they stepped out in? Like Alan Rickman and Johnny Depp, both who lead immesely private lives and don't go around attracting the media. Like JLo.

Mygenie
June 30th, 2004, 11:29 am
so because Rupert can't string a paragraph together or he's apparently laidback or quiet, he's supposed to be the most likeable? cause he says "yeah cool" and ignores the media? that's the picture I'm getting...

a) Dan is fulfilling his contract obligations and media requirements. He has to pose for photos and naturally more in demand than Rupert by having the lead role;

b) Rupert may have more of a handle on his role now than Dan, that's not to say Dan won't improve and show more versatility in the next film;

c) I've seen the Japanese press conference and Rupert chooses not to utter to much about himself or the film, that's his problem, don't blame the other two cause he doens't talk much.

d) I don't take his quietness to personally and I enjoy the comments and thoughts and interaction by Dan and Emma in interviews, at least they let fans know how they feel and not too worried about being cool or gonna look like a goose if I say too much or whatever.

Guardian Angel
June 30th, 2004, 12:00 pm
I am a great fan of Rupert Grint [read: enormous] and I have got to admit that I know what you are talking about.

He always seems to be put aside - just like Ron in way. But... Unlike of Ron who WANTS to be in the centre of attention, I think that Rupert's not really crazy about it. I have seen photos where fangirls hug him and, even though he probably likes it, he seems kind of surprised. It's almost as though he still doesn't understand he's popular.

I really have a feeling as though Rupert is not trying to be in the spotlight... but, true, I also see that Emma and Dan are always the ones the newpapers talk about... well... if he wanted it, he'd ask for it, right? *scracthes chin* Or not... :p