Ginny Weasley

[hedwig]

Does any one think that Ginny Weasly will mount to anythin important in any more of the books, i dont really think shes goin to but she could die, u no as a spare part like Cedric.
Gis ya views ppl:cool:

[xicanti]

I think there's a good chance that she'll amount to something.

I don't think that JKR is done with the whole "Ginny opened the Chamber of Secrets" thing. Even though she was being coherced by the memory of Tom Riddle, I think it's still significant somehow that she was the one to do it, and that fact hasn't been dealt with much in the books so far.

[midnite]

Hey hedwig! I think its a posibility that Ginny could die but i think if she did die, then she would have to be more involved in the book rather than less involved. Like JK said, a fan is going to die an everyone knows Ginny is mad about harry.

[hermiowninny]

I feel quite certain Ginny will play a much bigger role in the books to come. She is only a year younger than Harry after all. She will mature and grow just like the rest of them. I think it is significant that she was the one who opened the Chamber of Secrets. It is even more significant the Harry saved her life. It connects the two of them in ways we have not seen yet.

[Hettie Hoffleboffer]

Originally posted by xicanti
I don't think that JKR is done with the whole "Ginny opened the Chamber of Secrets" thing. Even though she was being coherced by the memory of Tom Riddle, I think it's still significant somehow that she was the one to do it, and that fact hasn't been dealt with much in the books so far.

I've been saying this for ages! Completely agree.

This is the key to book five I say!

[Hederic]

She's too cute to die...

[rotsiepots]

JKR has confirmed that Ginny Weasley will be a significant force in book 5. In what capacity her influencce or role is, I have no idea. Suffice to say that we haven't heard the last of Ginny Weasley yet.

Click here (http://www.oregonlive.com/books/index.ssf?/books/00/10/al_11browl22.frame) for the reference where JKR stated this fact.

[dumbleedore]

Harry saved Ginny's life, so shouldn't that create a bond between them?

Snape and James had it cause James saved Snape's life.

Harry and Peter have it because Harry stopped Lupin and Sirius killing Peter.

So, Harry and Ginny should be connected by that same thing.

[Hederic]

Ginny could play a big role AND die...it's not entirely impossible.

So no reassurance

[DarlingChild]

PLUS, I think Ginny and Harry just might end up being lovers.

HOWEVER, JK DID say that a fan of Harry was going to die, the death would be very hard for her to write, and that Ginny Weasley would play a larger part in book 5. Put the pieces together...could Ginny be the one to die? Sorry thats a bit off topic.

But to answer your question...YES, I do think she'll amount to something important in book 5, and if she isn't the one to die...all the reast of the books =P

[dumbleedore]

I don't think Ginny is going to die. If any of the Weasley's die it's going to be either Arthur or Percy.

[DarlingChild]

Hm..I'm really starting to convince myself that Ginnny will be the one to die...I think thats gonna be her major role in the next book. It makes sense.

[Hederic]

It doesn't make sense...I in fact don't believe it at all. It's just that it could happen, I'm trying to say that you shouldn't rule out the possibility.

[dumbleedore]

If Ginny does die, what would the ramifacations be for Ron? He adores his little sister (though he won't admit it). It could be a major plot turning point.

[Hederic]

Yes, Ron is rather protective...madness galore!

[dantares]

I don't think Ginny is going to die. She's too cute and lovable. JKR would not kill her.

[dumbleedore]

Hmm... getting idea...

Ginny dies and whilst it's not Harry's fault, Ron blames Harry. They stop talking and something happens to Ron and Harry saves him and they become friends again.

[Hederic]

Dantares...That exactly what I said :)

[faubert]

I think that like Harry Ginny will have some connection to VOldermot. And When rereading POA I noticed something.

Ginny also had a reaction to the Dementors when they boarded the Hogwarts express.

I think that Harry AND Ginny had a reaction because they have part of VOldermot inside them. We don't see it because in book 4 she doesn't have a big profile.

But as the war begins in book 5 we will start to see it. And this will be the major role we see in Book 5. I don't think she will die in book 5. She had a crush on Harry in COS but in future books I think that she is over it.

In book 5 we will see the trio of Harry, Hermione and Ron become a foursome as Ginny joins their efforts. I think that Cho will die in a quiditch accident probally in a match against Griffindor.

In the books something different always happens in a quiditch match.

Book 1 the sport is introduced

Book 2 Draco joins the slytherin team and Harry gets hurt

Book 3 THe Dementors show up effecting Harry

And Book 4 we see the world cup

What can happen in book 5 to make it different. A death. And I think that CHO who Harry has a crush on is the logical choice.

I think that Ginny will help Harry heal. Ron and Hermione will try to help him but Ginny will be the one who does so.

[xicanti]

Originally posted by dumbleedore
Harry saved Ginny's life, so shouldn't that create a bond between them?

Snape and James had it cause James saved Snape's life.

Harry and Peter have it because Harry stopped Lupin and Sirius killing Peter.

So, Harry and Ginny should be connected by that same thing.

Excellent point! I hadn't thought of that.

I think that Ginny's death would have major ramifications for Ron's character. Hey, I'll bet the rest of the Weasley boys would be pretty affected too; after all, she's their only little sister. It would be torturous (which I can't spell) to read, but it could end up doing something really interesting for the series, should JKR decide to include it.

[kgonekrazy]

I think Ginny is going to play an important role. In CoS Voldemort says that he started "pouring a little of [his] soul back into her...".
Voldemort and Ginny shared a life force for and extended period of time. Would this connect them somehow?
Voldemort also said that he shared some of his secerts with Ginny. What are this secerts? Is there something inportant that Ginny knows, but never told anyone?

[Puffskein]

I'd say Ginny can't die because she's already had a brush with death and it would be too tragic, but I may be wrong.

We should certainly hear about the implications of her experience with Voldemort.

The Dementors affected Ginny because of what happened in COS presumably. They affect anyone who's had distressing experiences, not necessarily to do with Voldemort.

[lanifiel]

I think that Ginny will have a huge part to play in the future books, she wouldnt be there if she didint have a greater role to play than the surrogate host for Tom's work in CoS...

[Fuchsia]

Originally posted by faubert
I think that like Harry Ginny will have some connection to VOldermot. And When rereading POA I noticed something.

You beat me to it. I was going to say that too.
Ginny has Voldemort inside of her as well.

Originally posted by faubert
Ginny also had a reaction to the Dementors when they boarded the Hogwarts express.

That is right she did. She doesn't have a dark past living with the Weasley so what else could it be?


Excellent post, faubert. I tried to tell my sister this just yesterday and she wouldn't listen. :)

[lanifiel]

Aside from being a young girl who sees a huge and terrifying black robed figure in front of her, I couldnt imagine what she saw, maybe the Dementors were reacting to the diary and not her and she was aware of this on some subconscious level...

[Fuchsia]

Ginny has a dark past. She feels responsible for what went on with the Chamber of Secrets. Even Neville didn't pass out and he's a wuss. And *he* has stuff in his closet too.

[Hederic]

Geez, Harry has a little Voldie inside him too, does that make HIM evil?

No? I didn't think so.

Ginny is NOT evil. If she was, than the universe is playing a cruel joke.

[dantares]

First of all, I don't know whether this had been posted or not, if it had, I'm sorry and this can be locked.

Ginny will played a bigger role in book 5 (everyone knows that), in order for her to play a bigger role, she need to be involved with Harry which means she had to had some interaction with Harry. How can she interact with Harry? I'm thinking that she would replace Oliver Wood to be in the Quidditch team. Everyone assumes that Ron will take over but what if Ginny is better in Quidditch than Ron. I mean we all know she is obsessed with Harry and perhaps, in her sweet little mind, she thought that if she play Quidditch well, Harry would take notice of her and like her. Thus, she train hard (secretly) and she's good at keeping secrets

[Katze]

I'm beginning to think she'll play a larger part.

She has a trace of V in her like Harry has in him. Rolwing has also stated that Ginny will have a bigger part on book 5. You can read this here (http://www.oregonlive.com/books/index.ssf?/books/00/10/al_11browl22.frame).

[Hederic]

Such a thread already exists.

As for your theory...Do you have any evidence to base that on?

I know it's impolite to laugh...but honestly...

[Hederic]

Yep...but not evil though...

I don't want Ginny to die...

[Kneazle]

I'll merge this with another "Ginny" thread.

It's possible, dantares. Anything could happen, and I can't think of any evidence against it.

[Dobby]

How should I say this... you know how Ron and Hermione is almost like main caractors because they're Harry's best friend? I heard that there's gonna be another one of those.. You know what I mean? There's gonna be one one more very good friend of Harry and people thinks it's Ginny.. I hope I made sense..

[DarlingChild]

I still think Ginny will die. All the evidence that I've found points to it...I don't want her to die, but I honestly think she will =\

[Knight]

She'll have a significant role, but I don't think she's the one who's marked for death. She's already had her "turn" at being in mortal peril.

[SiriuslyBria]

I do not think Ginny will be the one to die in book 5, but I do believe she will play a larger role in the remaining books and end up with Harry in the end. :)

[Dobby]

A lot of people thinks Hagrid is the one who dies in the 5th book. I don't really care much for that since I don't really like Hagrid that much.:rasp:

[Romulus]

:'(

When I first read that an important character would die in the fifth book, I promised myself I'd stop reading Harry Potter if Ron, Hermione, or Ginny died (well, or Harry, of course, but that won't happen). Ron and Hermione because the author spent so much time developing their personalities, and Ginny because, well, I spent so much time developing her personality. I was very disappointed when I realized there was so little written about Ginny in book 4, so I spent hours dreaming up stuff about her. Don't ask me why... maybe it's because her situation is similar to mine (loving someone who doesn't pay you any attention), or maybe because she has so much potential as a person, or maybe because of that silly poem she wrote about Harry, or maybe because the actress who plays her in The Chamber of Secrets is so cute. ;)

Well, I'm not making much sense, so I'll stop now, but the point I wanted to make was: DON'T KILL GINNY! She's as precious to me as the 3 main characters are to most HP fans.

[apples]

*nods along with Romulus* I totally agree. I've always felt a little upset because Ginny wasn't mentioned that much in Book 4. She's a wonderful person and I can't wait to see how she grows up. I think she's going to be a lovely young lady and will knock Potter's socks off!

kgonekrazy- I had never thought about You-Know-Who pouring himself inside her... That's a very interesting idea to bring up. Now I'm beginning to wonder how Riddle effected her...

Oh! And dantares, you're the first person that's agreed with me about her playing Quidditch! :) *claps and cheers* I would love to see sweet little Ginny playing for Gryffindor!

[Fuchsia]

We know Ginny will be in the books more. What type of role will she play this time? Maybe they'll need her for something?

[lanifiel]

Its possible she was there for only book two but I dont thikn soo, their was too much exploration of her character. I think she will either take the place of one from Team-Harry in the event of a death. Or she will become Harry's 'companion'...

[Fuchsia]

Rowling said that there will be more of Ginny so that isn't a question.

[Hettie Hoffleboffer]

All I know is that Harry has a connection to her that not even he realizes. What exactly it is, and how it will bring them together, I have no idea.

Anyways, back to topic. If Ginny still holds secrets of Voldemort's past, perhaps they will be able to use them against him somehow.

And yes, I know that this is no help to you all, whatsoever.:rolleyes:

[Fuchsia]

No, Hettie, that was helpful. :) I have thoughts on this but it is hard to get them together.
I think that the Voldie in Harry is what will help him defeat him.
Ginny too.
He'll regret using her one day I am sure.

[Hederic]

What evidence?

None of the so-called-evidence you mentioned, is directly related to Ginny dying. And others are based on again other theories, which are in turn based on other theories. And the rest is just circumstantial evidence.

[hedwig]

I think all of these replies are gr8 ppl keep them comin!
I like ginny but she hasnt had much to do since COS, i think that jk might build somethin big up then maybe a challaging event may happen for her.
(Oh bye the way hederic who cares if there is no evidence! Lighten up!)

[Hederic]

Well, I care. That's why I mentioned it.

[dracofan]

Does anyone have a clue what kind of role Ginny may play in the next book. JKR said she would have a larger role.

I hope its more than a crush that we have already heard about in almost all of the books so far.

[cbjedi]

Well the kids are getting older and JKR has said that hormones will be running rampant. We know that Ginny has a crush on Harry so that will most likely play a big part in her involvement in OotP.

I think she'll play a big part in the plot as well. Also, we know that JKR said that the death in OotP was very difficult to write, and that it will be much more emotional than Cedric's death, so perhaps Ginny will be the one to die. After all, seeing one so innocent die would be very emotional and difficult to write...

[Ashkins]

Remember this year Ginny will be in her 4th year... She will really be noticing guys ... besides just Harry.. the childhood stuff will be behind her.

A whole new ballgame.... I love it..

[HbAznKyootie]

maybe she'll finally get over her crush of harry. ;)

[GlassRoses314]

I don't believe Ginny for one second. I used to think that she was this poor, sweet, innocent girl who's mind got taken over in her 2nd year and etc, etc, etc. However it just strikes me as odd that something that traumatic happens to her and she walks away perfectly fine. No mental trauma, no depression, nothing. And also, not all the Weasley's are going to be really cool, nice, people. One might go bad, and everyone thinks it's going to be Percy but I don't think that at all. All Percy wants is to succeed, and he's a strict follower of the rules. Going all evil would obviously be going against the rules, so no, the evil Weasley's not Percy. It's Ginny... She's got a major crush on Harry and Harry won't look twice at her. Combine that with all the brainwashing from Riddle 2 years ago (well 3 now?) and here we have a good girl gone bad. She's an infiltraiter and I don't believe her story for one second, untill proven otherwise.


CC

(A bit harsh I know... But I've just got this feeling about her, I don't know why.)

[Illusion]

I agree with CC. Ginny might go bad. But, there's the whole love theory, too. Alot say that Ginny will mature, and Harry will start noticing her, but the fact that she is Ron's little sister might be a turn off. But that's all far fetched.

Maybe she will die? A horrible death... she's a fan of Harry's, and she might die saving Harry's life? That would defenetly pass as "Ginny will play more than a role in book 5" and would defenetly be hard to write, Id imagine. I got a feeling its not going to be Hagrid. He isnt a fan, a friend and I cant think of any reason for Hagrid dying, either. Besides, Dumbledore said in book 3 that when a wizard saves another wizards life, they are connected. This might be it. SInce Harry saved her butt down in the Chamber, this might be just the thing to repay him.

[GlassRoses314]

Let's hope Illusion, she really does owe him for saving her butt lol. And I kind of hope it's Ginny who dies. Obviously that's not good for everyone else (the Weasley's, Harry, etc.). But I'd rather it be her then Lupin, Black, or any one of the trio.

[Yurika Star]

I hope her big role is a death.
A death that will send a small contingency of the Weasley family after Voldie and or some death eaters.
It would be cool to see a crazy Weasley family.
In the process more Weasley's die.

[Sinistra]

Ginny may also have some tie to Voldemort through her tie to Tom Riddle's diary. Voldemort may reestablish that tie and use her to spy on Harry and Co. So far we don't know what Ginny went through to get over that year of domination. And that sort of thing needs some therapy to deal with it, IMHO. But Voldemort is extremely persuasive, so he may come to Ginny in her dreams and take her over again, in some way. It would make a good plot point, with Ginny following Harry around a lot, ostensibly because she loves him, but really because Voldemort is making her. Soooo evil.

And I hadn't though of Ginny being the one to die, but it's a good possibility also.

[Qeomash]

Sinistra, the diary is gone. All it is now is a book with alot of ink (or was it blood?) stains on it and a hole through its center.

No, if Ginny's going to play a big role, I think it will be a crush on Harry. And I do hope she's not the one to die, but Voldemort may be after Harry's friends rather than Harry himself.

[Slytherin_Chick]

i hope she dies.. i dun no y... just i don't like her... lol:) also the thing is, is that with all that's happened like GlassRoses314 said, i think that she'll go crazy finally.. hehehehehehe! funny thought :):D

[Pigwidgeon]

Originally posted by GlassRoses314
I don't believe Ginny for one second. I used to think that she was this poor, sweet, innocent girl who's mind got taken over in her 2nd year and etc, etc, etc. However it just strikes me as odd that something that traumatic happens to her and she walks away perfectly fine. No mental trauma, no depression, nothing.

Slightly biased, because I am a Ginny fan, but we don't know that. The story is from Harry's point of view, and Ginny is too shy around him to tell him her problems. In private she may have some problems. Maybe that's even what comes up in the next book. Perhaps she'll see Harry is feeling bad about the TriWizard Tournament, and maybe share her problems with the trio in an attempt to help Harry feel better.

[dorcasderr]

Since the stories are about Harry, we just may not have SEEN what Ginny went through after her experience with Tom Riddle. The Wizarding world may have some therapy unknown to Muggles to help with that kind of trauma. But I guess it will take a long tome for her to get over that kind of mental bondage even so. It may make for some interesting tension in the next book, as her natural personality would fight any influence Voldemort might try to exert on her...and no doubt he will try.

[Celestine_Adams]

Ginny's big role + horrible death = could it be one of the Weasleys bites the dust?!

Can't be Ron, he's waaaay too important to the Books. Maybe Percy? Fred or George? Arthur, or (goddess forbid) Mrs. Weasley?? :wow: :(

[dracofan]

I don't think it will be Ginny who will die. I believe it will someone very close to harry, because it will make him see death more clearly or whatever JKR said. I admit I don't think it will Hagrid now because he is who everyone is saying will die.

It would be cool if Ginny started liking another boy,say Draco, and this makes Harry take notice of her by helping Ron get thru to her about what kind of guy Draco is. Then Harry could fall in love with her. I don't think it is coiencidence that Harry looks like his father and Ginny has red hair like his mother.

[GodricSlytherin]

Ginny has come way too close for death already..it would be a little played out if she died...we would be like..oh..she will live..but then again. JK might make her die..leaving everyone surprised.

[dracofan]

I agree, I do hope they JKR doesn't make her whiny like she has been, or to me anyway, in the last books. Give her some backbone I say.

[symplet]

I don't think Ginny woill be the one to die. My guess is that she will turn the trio into a quatuor. Even though Ron is too cool to hang out with his baby sister, Hermione needs some kind of female presence around her to confide in (we have seen more and more signs of this in the two last books). Since I highly doubt that Pavarti and Lavender are her type of girls, my guess is that shewill turn to Ginny. That would also be a good way for her to learn more intimate stuff about Ron! (I'm a Hermione/Ron shipper)

[Ashkins]

I really don't think being the only daughter of the Weasleys she will be killed.. I too see her being added to the group... we will see in the next few books =)

[SeniorFishy]

As far as the fifth book is concerned, Ginny will not be with Harry and the love story between her and Harry ends at Harry. She preety much worships Harry and thinks he's the most amazing thing in the world however that makes for a bad relationship. Harry won't date someone who is psycho about him because it freaks him out. Harry hates being a superstar and doesn't like the attention he gets from people like Colin Creevey or Ginny. Although he thinks that her actions are cute and tolerates her in a friendly way, only because he loves the Weasleys.

Ginny plays a different role and her emotions do play a part of it. She won't kill anyone or save anyones life but she will do somethings that might endanger other peoples lives. She does more or less become a weakling who gets used and hinders the 'good' guys. Poor Ginny, I really do feel sorry for her, she doesn't deserve all this bad luck and horrible positions that she is forced into.

Ginny also won't become an addition to the group, Ron won't allow her to nose into the trios group like that. Plus the tensions between the trio is very prevailant in the 5th book. Hermione is at the center of attention a lot these days as hormones flair and jealousy ensues.

[Ame]

Originally posted by dracofan
I don't think it is coiencidence that Harry looks like his father and Ginny has red hair like his mother.


Exactly!! I have felt the exact same way for some time now. I, also feel that JKR purposely did this, but for what reason I don't know.

As for Ginny's big, infamous role to come, perhaps it will be becoming Hermione's female confidant. It seems, as Hermione gets older, she'll need a female friend to speak to when she can't talk to the guys (And I highly doubt she'll want to confide in Parvati or Lavender). Maybe we've blown Ginny's new role out of proportion. She maybe of some importance, but we might be expecting too much. Besides, if her and Hermione were to grow closer as friends and confidants, imagine how Ron will try to pry into their secrets. He doesn't seem to be very fond of Hermione keeping secrets from them, recall the secret date to the Yule ball. And poor Ginny will be caught in the middle.

[GlassRoses314]

I still think she's an infiltrater.

[Sinistra]

The Diary may be gone, but Ginny was under Tom Riddle's "spell" for most of a year. We all know Voldemort has powers we do not yet know about, and once under his influence, even of his younger self, it may sensitize her to another takeover attempt.

The idea of Ginny and Hermione becoming fast friends is a good one. Ron may have problems with it, but if he and Hermione become an item in book 5, he may well be distracted and busy elsewhere. Besides, if Ron and Hermione start dating, it leaves Harry out in the cold, with his best friends elsewhere. So Harry will need someone else to hang around with.

And the Ginny and Lily both as redheads is intriguing. It's a JKR thing to do.

[dracofan]

I agree, the next book is supposed to be very dark and scary. Maybe Ron and Harry not only has to fight Voldemort for themselves but maybe also to save those they love. Hermione and Ginny anyone.

[jodiekins]

Ginny should have a bigger role, because we all knbow how ron feels overshadowed, well, it must be worse for Ginny, so she feels she needs to prove herself. She must feel stupid after the whole diary incident, so it could drive her crazy. What if she found out more then she let on from the diary? Being bad would certainly get her noticed, or she could somehow save someone, to make Harry notice her.

[dracofan]

Yep,I agree. No telling what all Tom Riddle told Ginny. I'll tell you what I didn't like about book 3 and 4. They didn't reveal anything about Ginny, other than she was sitting at the table, or hermione told her something every now and again.

after what she went thru in book 2, you would think the trio would look out for her a bit more. My goodness, she was in Voldemorts clutches, and only Harry has been there before.

[Weatherby]

My older sis has an unreasonable hatred for Ginny. She can't even back it up. oh wait..she's a little kid.
Hmm.. Hermione was the same age in SS but she didn't hate her.

I would like to see Harry and Ginny get together because Harry would join the Weasley family.
That would be a lovely ending.

[Sinistra]

That's a good point, dracofan, the trio should have looked out for Ginny more. But then they are kids, and don't think of that stuff all the time. Also, until dating starts, there seems to be little mixing between years.

As to Ginny feeling overshadowed, she may, but she is also the only girl after 6 boys. She may be somewhat spoiled because of that. She doesn't feel the family's relative povety as strongly as Ron, as far as we know. And I agree, I wanted to learn more about Ginny in books 3 and 4. But the byplay with the Yule Ball does shine some light on her.

[chiseledpheonix]

I personally hate Ginny, but death as her big role? Don't think so. After all, she almost died once already, why would JKR kill her again? I think that she will help Harry defeat Voldemort for revenge or something...

[cannonFan]

Ginny's big role will be that she gets to know the 'real' Harry better (as opposed to the hero ther she heard aobut growing up). Ginny will realize that she truely loves Harry and in the end sacrifices her life to protect him... just like his mother. Which will give him back the protection that he had when Voldy took Harry's blood at the end of GoF. Just a theory.

[lanifiel]

I think Ginny will become another of the gang, you know a little bit bigger in the helping out of Harry on his next mission/adventure. I dont think it will be quite as big as Ron or HErimone but I do think it will be larger than before. This is where the foundation for Harry liking Ginny, in that special way, will grow from...

[Firebolt]

Ginny probably try to help Harry somewhat to repay him when he's helping her in CoS. She might cought in the middle of Harry & Co. adventure.

[Llopin]

Ginny has been always seen as a "secondary character", not very important after all. But I'd like her to be more important in the next books, because it's a great character. I'm sure she'll have more higher profile in OotP. At least I'd love that. And of course, as lanifiel says, there will be more love innuendo between Harry and Ginny.

[Sinistra]

Well, if Ron and Hermione start dating, Harry will be left out, and he will need to find someone to hang out with while R+H are out snogging. So bringing Ginny more into the picture sounds logical. Harry may even dateGinny, which would be more congenial.

But young people date a number of people (hopefully) before they make their life choice. So who is dating whom in book 5 means nothing as to who they end up spending their lives with.

[pasalita]

Actually, there is already a thread that discusses Ginny Weasley's role in the HP series called Ginny Weasley (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2795&highlight=Ginny+Weasley) .

I'll bump it up for all ya'll interested.

And, with that, I'll close this thread. Please conduct a search prior to posting any new threads. Thanks!

[pasalita]

*bump*

[Ashkins]

Hermione also needs a friend that is a girl. There are just somethings girls can't talk to about with boys like Ron and Harry.. Hermione and Ginny already have a friendship I would like to see it develope more.

[dracofan]

me too. But I think jealousy will come between the two.

1. Hermione flirts with Harry to make Ron jealous.
2. Ron flirts with Fleur - who'll be back at the school to make Hermione jealous.
3. Ginny is jealous of Hermione, because she thinks Harry likes her.
4. Harry does start to have feelings for Hermione and he and Ron scuffle over Hermione.
5. Hermione wants Ron as her man.
6. Harry starts hanging around Ginny and realizes he likes her but she now is tired of liking harry and starts looking elsewhere.
7 Harry is jealous and Ron is mad that Harry likes his sister, he's afraid she'll get hurt.
8. It'll all work out in the end.

[Ashkins]

Sounds like typical teenagedom.. lol

[Ame]

That sounds too much like a teenage soap opera. I hope it doesn't turn into a she said, he said, I'm jealous type of situation. But I like the idea of Ginny being an aid to the trio. I'm honestly not sure what her role may be, I suppose I do hope that a friendship between Hermione and Ginny develops. I think it would be an interesting way of seeing how much they are all growing up, besides I think Hermione needs a female confidant.

I, too, was not fond of Ginny not having much of a developed character, I had hoped we'd see more of her. But then it makes me wonder if JKR is purposely holding Ginny back. And if so, maybe her role will be big.

[lanifiel]

Holding her back or protecting her?

[cannonFan]

I had noticed while rereading PoA and GoF, that JKR reminds us of Ginny about the time we probablly for get she's there. Usually she does something that's totally random. For example, in PoA on Halloween when the Fat Lady is ruined by Sirius everyone is outside he entrence and randomly Ginny says something. It's one short sentence and about ll it does to me is says.... oh yeah... Ginny. Now that I think of it, since this is Harry's point of view why does he notice what she says and not particuarly what somone else says. The point is that I agree that JKR is purposely holding her back untill the time comes when Harry and therefore we the readers get to know Ginny better.

[lanifiel]

Thats a good point but I dont think its till we get to know her better but rather until shes ready to fufil her full part in the Hogwarts story...

[Dobby]

Originally posted by dracofan
me too. But I think jealousy will come between the two.

1. Hermione flirts with Harry to make Ron jealous.


yeah, and Ron wasn't "happy" when she went to the ball with Krum.


"Don't call him Vicky!"

lol

[Ashkins]

I have noticed that Hermione does confide in Ginny.. after all she knew Hermione was going to the ball with Krum.

[Johnny Cage]

He did it because she knows Ron wouldn´t and could´nt hit on Ginny; and she doesn´t have a crush on Harry.

[Filia Tenebrarum]

Originally posted by faubert


Ginny also had a reaction to the Dementors when they boarded the Hogwarts express.

That's because of her experience in the CoS

But as the war begins in book 5 we will start to see it. And this will be the major role we see in Book 5. I don't think she will die in book 5. She had a crush on Harry in COS but in future books I think that she is over it.

No, she was still upset when she realised she'd missed her chance to be Harry's partner for the Yule Ball. I think she's a bit better at hiding and generally managing her feelings, now, though.
In book 5 we will see the trio of Harry, Hermione and Ron become a foursome as Ginny joins their efforts. I think that Cho will die in a quiditch accident probally in a match against Griffindor.

Why should Cho die? I haven't heard that one before; can you back it up?

In the books something different always happens in a quiditch match.

Book 1 the sport is introduced

Book 2 Draco joins the slytherin team and Harry gets hurt

Book 3 THe Dementors show up effecting Harry

And Book 4 we see the world cup

What can happen in book 5 to make it different. A death. And I think that CHO who Harry has a crush on is the logical choice.

OK, you can back it up. Question answered. :-)
Ginny's all potential at the moment, she could go in any direction. We'll find out in book 5. Where is book 5? I need book 5! Oh, I'm being psycologically damadged for lack of book five! Wail! Moan! Lament!

[JoFaye]

I think we'll see Ginny become much more important to the plot. The Cos thing, the lifesaving thing, and please don't predict another Harry/Ron fight. I hated it. When I re-read #4 I skip rather heavily in that part.

[Annapurna1]

There is reason to believe that Ginny was left under Voldy's spell after CoS; that she will reopen the CoS again later; and that this could pave the way for her death. I set up a thread entitled ~Ginny~ (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?threadid=4312) where this is discussed in greater detail(?).

[Johnny Cage]

My point is Rowling would actually rewrite her own book if Ginny would AGAIN open the CoS. Therefore it´s unlikely for Ginny to still be under Voldy´s spell. @ Jofaye: Actually i really liked the Ron/Harry fight, at last Ron was more than just comic relief :grumble: .

[Tcieneb Delonra]

Ginny Weasley has to amount to something...JKR would never keep er in the story so much if there was no use for her... and that whole fan of harry thing will die, i think it will be some one besides the obvious we have been mentioning: Hagrid, Ginny and Colin... I know a huge fan that might cause a big turn of events. His name is none other then Dobby. Dobby i probably Harry's biggest fan and is eternally greatful. This could cause the elves to join dumbledore, just a thought.

[Dobby]

Originally posted by JoFaye
and please don't predict another Harry/Ron fight. I hated it. When I re-read #4 I skip rather heavily in that part.

I hated it too :rasp:

[dobbygirl]

I don't think that Ginny having been under Voldemort's spell before would make her more likely to be swayed again. I think that it would make her less likely. She already knows how horrible it was, this (in my opinion) would make her want to fight any type of influence from Voldemort. I agree with those who said that she will probably be pulled into the trio and the fight against Voldemort.

I don't think that Ginny will die, at least in OotP. She could die later, but right now, I don't think that her death would have that much of an impact on Harry.

[cannonFan]

Her death would have (at the least) a very indirect impact on Harry, because he is Ron's friend. Of course I don't want her to die at all.

[Ame]

I am against the idea of Ginny steal being under Voldemort's spell, nor do I think Ginny will die. Her role is foggy, and unclear. :lol: I sound like Trelwany. We don't know nearly enough about her to come up with at least a few sketchy ideas... and you know... it's kinda frustrating. At least we know small things about the other characters, Ginny is a complete an total mystery.

[lanifiel]

*cough cough* the word is Still :D

[lleyki]

Okay I was too lazy to read all the previous posts so if any of this has been said; sorry.

Okay I've never made any secret of the fact that I find Ginny very boring and uninteresting. Plus she mirrors the thing I hate most in characters; weakness. She's like the perpetual victim. Maybe it's a feminist thing but I can't stand girls who always need to be saved.

However, I'm very open to her character having more of a role in the next book. Hell I'll take anything to make Ginny more interesting at this point. Anything that has her doing something more than pining after Harry. One thing that I really don't like though is the idea that R/Hr will get together, Harry'll feel left out and start hanging around Ginny. That is too bloody convenient. Only when he feels like he has no one; he'll notice her. It's like saying, "oh hey, Ginny is always there". Besides the way Harry is I'd sooner believe he'd stay by himself than hang around Ginny. Ginny who is a more like a love-struck kid. You know I was sure by GOF Ginny would be a little more in control of those feelings for Harry; but for crying out loud she still blushes when he tells her hello. Something else that convinces me Harry'd sooner stay by himself if R/Hr getting together makes him feel left out; is his behaviour when they went to Hogsmeade and he couldn't. I've always thought that could have been a good way for JK to put some kind of conversation between Harry and GInny. Nothing romantic, just a simple conversation, so we get some inkling of their chemistry. I mean we know for a fact Ginny was there because she was a second year and they weren't allowed to go. Also, when Ron and Hermione came back they found him in the common room probably doing nothing that important. The next trip Harry was planning to read a magazine the whole time Ron and Hermione were gone. Not once was there any reference made to Ginny. However, in the fifth book he'll just decide to hang out with her? People need to realize that with the exception of Ron and Hermione, Harry's pretty much a loner.

Now I did read a few posts and I saw some people used the Ginny has red hair like Lily argument. Again that is a very weak argument because if we are going to use the Lily correlation to put someone with Harry, people will have to realize that Hermione is much more like Lily than Ginny ever will be. I mean right down to their heritage.

Finally as to the whole Chamber thing not being completely finished; I'm open to that possibility. The fact is Ginny is pretty much non-existent and the trio really don't seem to know that much of what's going on in her life. Harry and Hermione can be forgiven but for crying out loud she's Ron's sister. I mean the last time people didn't pay attention Ginny ended up opening the Chamber, albeit she wasn't aware of it but unless she's gotten alot stronger since COS, she might be easily manipulated again.

[Filia Tenebrarum]

I think there's a lot going on that we don't know about with Ginny, I mean inside her. Her feelings for Harry for example. Surely she can't have been stuck with a girlish crush on him for three years. Her feelings must have matured a bit; in one dimension they definitely have, that is she now keeps them more private. If her feelings haven't grown up with her then I'm inclined to agree with lleyki as to her being boring and useless.
She probably _has_ been through a lot after the CoS episode but she's learned to keep her feelings to herself.
Under pressure, people show their feelings more, so if she ends up in the climax of book five we'll find out some of what she feels and whether it's changed since book 2.

[rotsiepots]

I thought I might try and bump this thread back into some activity, seeing as it has been dormant for a while. Hopefully this will also counter the increasing number of threads being started on the famous Miss Weasley.

Mission accomplished, I suppose...:shrug:

*bump*

[RonFan24]

I don't like Ginny and I don't dislike Ginny, she's just there. Which is a little strange to me because she is mentioned often enough to make you think she is important, but she's not exactly vital to the plot (with the exception of CoS, but if you think about it, it could have been anyone who Volemort possessed). This makes me think she will be important soon. Especially since anyone could have opened the CoS. I can see how she has been helpless in the past books, she was a young girl, but maybe in the next books, she will be a little stronger.

[GilyAnn]

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Originally posted by kgonekrazy
I think Ginny is going to play an important role. In CoS Voldemort says that he started "pouring a little of [his] soul back into her...".
Voldemort and Ginny shared a life force for and extended period of time. Would this connect them somehow?
Voldemort also said that he shared some of his secerts with Ginny. What are this secerts? Is there something inportant that Ginny knows, but never told anyone?

I have been saying this for ages and I think is VERY important. If Voldemort pour his soul to Ginny, then she has to know more than most of people. She knows his secrets and as the conflicts will develop she will become more important to series. I am dying to see her larger role in book 5

[Dobby]

It's possibility that Ginny can turn into a death eater.

[Filia Tenebrarum]

Well, if Ginny has a bond with Voldemort (left over from her experience with Riddle's diary), a strong reaction to the Dementors and has experienced a close brush with death then who else does that sound like?
I can see the argument for Ginny turning evil, but I think there's an equally strong argument for her becoming part of the wonder trio (Wonder Quadro? Doesn't have the same ring to it, does it?...) and Harry's girlfriend.
What is almost certain is that she'll play a bigger role in future books. Has JKR actually said as much? But anyway, Ginny is an obvious dormant seed as far as plot and character development are concerned.

[BabyMars]

Ugh, Sorry guys, but....

JKR, will you please just kill her off already??

No harm in being controversial :D

Cheers :smooch:

[GilyAnn]

Well sorry to disagree with some of you but I don't think the posibility of her it's much atractive. It has to be someone less than the obvious to die. Her future roll is going to be very interesting not to mention shocking. She has been portrait as this weak, despertatly in love with Harry, annoying, need to be protective girl. It has enable people to see her character development.

[cannonFan]

I see a lot of potential with Ginny. She was introduced as exsisting is the first book, became a major plot point in the second book, and than almost nothing. For two years we haven't seen whole lot of her except short refrences that say "Hello.. remember me... Ginny??" Now, I may be wrong but, it seems that Harry is the only one of trio who doesn't have some sort of closeness to Ginny. Now, before you go telling me I'm wrong, here's why I think that. Ron is her brother(DUH!), and they are only about year in age apart. In general I've noticed that siblings who are so close in age either hate each other, or are really close, and I don't see Ron and Ginny hating each other. Hermione being friends with Ron and therefore having stayed at the Burrow in GoF has given them a good oppertunity for the two of them to become close... almost like sisters. When Harry arrived they seemed have been together somewhere in the house,possibly talking(althogh it's possible they weren't and they just arrived at the doorway at the same time). Later in GoF It seems Hermione trusts Ginny with some of her "girl" secrets (you know how there are things that you can only tell frends who are the same gender as yourself, no matter how close your friends of the oppsite gender are.) More specifically she trusted Ginny with the information about her date to the Yule ball, and as far as I can tell only told Ginny. Now, Harry doesn't really know her too well and since everything in from Harry's POV we don't know her too well either. Ginny will play a bigger role in book 5 and what that role is...I don't know. It is possible that this "bigger role" may give Harry(and therefore us) a chance to really get to know Ginny. What comes of it?? who knows. Maybe Harry will finally realize that he isn't the only one that Volde(Tom) has used for his own vices. They could eventually become romantically involved, although at this point I think it might be a little of a stretch. In a few monthes we will see if JKR makes use of it.

[mrsweasley]

I don't like Ginny. I wouldn't miss her if she did die. I think she's annoying (right now). If she played a larger role, she might grow on me. MAYBE she is the evil Weasley and she gets on the quiddich team to try and kill HP. Hmmmm....that would work with the theory that's she's got some Voldie in her. And I've wondered why Malfoy picked her to plant the diary on. Did he just see her as an easy target or was it fate? Maybe her crush was genuine at first, but she may use it to get closer to Harry to make it easier to 86 him. Incidently, if HP did have something to do with Ginny's death dont' you think Ron would be equally devastated to find out him dear little sister is evil? Here's another spin (now I'm rambling), maybe Ron is, accidently, imperalled by Evil Little Ginny and HP steps in to save his life and in doing so kills Ginny. That way Ron would be obliged to protect Harry but at the same time devastated about her death and evilness. Whoa..better stop now.

[Silk E Smooth]

Poor Ginny. First she's the only girl, at that the youngest to the victim of much ridicule. Then for the whole of her first year she's possession by the memory of the Dark Lord. And now everyone wants her dead. The girl can't catch a break. But I like Ginny. Outside of Harry, she's the character that I can relate to so I guess I can understand her where others might think she's weak or unimportant. I think it's been established that Ginny and Harry have this magical bond thing going now and it's bound to show up again. People didn't really pick up on at first. Actually, I think it took until after GoF to make the connection. It did for me anyway. But my point is, I think that her importance in the next book will be connected to that life bond. Some see Ginny as weak. Well, we've also been led to think of Ginny as a weak little girl. Younger than her years. I think in OotP Ginny will break out of that weak stereotype and prepay Harry. She's not in Griffindor because she's a Weasley and all Weasley's are in Griffindor. She's there because she's brave. As for her being the one to die, it's almost as if JKR set up the clues to the next book to influnce people to think it would be Ginny. But I think otherwise. I don't think it will be a student that dies. JKR wouldn't kill off another student so soon. And when JKR says that it's hard to write, I think that's a clue to the fact that it stems from something personal, like her own Mothers death. So I'm leaning on the Molly theory. I think Ginny just hasn't been developed fully yet but she will be.

[lanifiel]

I like Ginny as well, I think shes that sweet innocent girl that every one should be looking out for, but she doesnt want that title hanging over her either...

[Fuchsia]

Not everyone has to be the hero. There are many different roles a person can play and all are important. From the fly on the wall to the dragon killer.

[Filius Flitwick]

I couldn't really find a thread dealing with my question, but this one seems to be close. I just reread Goblet this last week and I never really noticed it until this last time, but Ginny isn't in the book for like the last 100-150 pages. She doesn't see Molly and Bill when they visit, at least I don't think she does. Heck, she isn't even mentioned as being on the train. Harry, Hermione, and Ron have their own cart while Fred, George, and Lee had one of their own as well. Does this mean that she is doing things with her own friends or did Rowling just forget about her? Did I just glance over her name or was she not even in there?

This has probably already been discussed before, maybe even in this thread, but I'm too lazy to look.

[Hpmons]

It just wasnt neccessary for her to be mentioned. She was mentioned very briefly at some points, but she just wasnt very important in the 5th book (but she will be in future books).

Lucius probably picked Ginny becuase she does seem the weakest. She new, and she didnt know much magic; becuase she was so young, she wouldnt recognise something that is evil.

As far as I know, Ginny has only been said to play a more important role in book 5; ad there is no mention of anything happening to her in other books. Either, she could be killed off (act of bravery on her part?) or she will have a major role in book 5; so she wont be used much in the other two books. I dont know, it could simply be coincidence.

But, we must remeber that she was put in Gryffindor. Sure, it was PARTLY because the Weasleys were all in it, partly becuase she wanted to be in it herself; but she still does have bravery, hidden bravery. Similar to Neville and Peter Pettigrew - neither of them have shown any yet, but we know they will.

[GilyAnn]

Many people have the same question. As you do. They are many posibilites but one of them could be that Voldemort return has affected Ginny somehow.

[The Forsaken]

I was thinking about Ginny while reading CoS again and an idea popped into my head. Ginny had to be able to control the basilisk, because Tom says himself he was to weak to leave the journal. Therefore Ginny is able to speak Parseltongue. Could Ginny make a noble scarifice by distracting Nagini while Harry battles the serpent in OotP? Just a theory I had.

[Jessica]

Originally posted by The Forsaken (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=268581#post268581))
I was thinking about Ginny while reading CoS again and an idea popped into my head. Ginny had to be able to control the basilisk, because Tom says himself he was to weak to leave the journal. Therefore Ginny is able to speak Parseltongue. Could Ginny make a noble scarifice by distracting Nagini while Harry battles the serpent in OotP? Just a theory I had.


I thought Tom Riddle had taken her over and was speaking Parsletongue through her rather than she had taken on the ability to speak it herself.

[Filius Flitwick]

Originally posted by jessicacarstens (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=268588#post268588))
I thought Tom Riddle had taken her over and was speaking Parsletongue through her rather than she had taken on the ability to speak it herself.


Yeah, that's what I thought as well. She would black out, so she had no idea what she was doing.

[Jessica]

It is possible that she subconsciuosly retained some of the abilities she had when he took her over.

Maybe she would be able to understand Parseltongue if she heard it?

[jordmundt6]

Hmm. Well, we've never been in a position to find out. But I doubt it. He sucked her life and the abilities he crammed into her away when he came out of the book. She was restored to health when he was destroyed, but she did not gain his power or his unique abilities (like speaking and understanding Parseltongue).

[The Forsaken]

I concur with Jessica because there's someone else who Voldemort tried to kill who now retains the ability to speak Parseltongue: Harry. Voldemort in an attempt to murder Harry passed on his "gift" somehow. I think it's possible the possesed Ginny Weasley retained the ability once she was no longer possesed.

[Jessica]

Good point, The Forsaken.

I hadn't thought of that parallel

[Silk E Smooth]

I think it's an important fact that so far all the Weasley's have in some way been important to the school. If you haven't been reading the spoilers for OotP then I wont spoil what Ron's new importance is. But now Ginny is the only one that hasn't had an important position. So I think she will. I just don't know what. I did have a fun thought today, however. She's a romantic and all that hoopla so I think it would be interesting to see the school do something theatrical and have our little Ginny make the female lead. She could be the superstar of the family.

[Buttercup]

A broadway musical and Ginny can sing the lead! I don't think that 'Phantom of the Opera' or 'West Side Story' would be very appropriate though.

Ginny is a cool character and until I started reading the boards I had never even thought about besides Harry she is on the only one to have survived an attack by Voldemort. It sure does set her up for being important to Harry's future.

I am not sure about her speaking parseltongue but I am curious about what else she might remember about Tom's diary and what he told her. He is a liar for sure but he might have given her a few tidbits that can be used.

[Fuchsia]

Ginny is more of a loner than her brothers.
Maybe her impact will be in a more behind the scenes way?

[Sam]

Originally posted by xicanti (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=71684#post71684))
I think there's a good chance that she'll amount to something.

I don't think that JKR is done with the whole "Ginny opened the Chamber of Secrets" thing. Even though she was being coherced by the memory of Tom Riddle, I think it's still significant somehow that she was the one to do it, and that fact hasn't been dealt with much in the books so far.


Not only that, Ginny is still haunted by the way that the diary ruled her. (PoA, on the train....) I think that she will be an elemental force in the fight against Voldemort. And, I don't think that we've seen the end of her powers.

[Barbara Kennedy]

We've been told that we will see a lot more of her in the next book.

[emikkime]

I reckon she will end up with Harry

[sanchou]

I think Ginny is a kind, nerved and sensitive girl.
I hope she will have s happy ending.

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[go_anna40]

I think Ginny has quite a big role coming up in the future books. I don't think Rowling has finished Ginny's Chamber of Secrets business yet. But I think, when she finishes, it'll lead to her death.
Ginny seems so vulnerable, and has connections to Harry, which makes her a target for the dark side. And her death will hit the trio and the rest of the family hard.
She has already been close to death, I think it will come to haunt her once again.
I could be wrong, only time will reveal.

[Auri DeMeer]

I really hope Ginny's character develops further - until now we know next to nothing about her, considering she's been in all books. It's not that I don't like her, but I don't feel comfortable with her either; that's because we don't know her.

She's been kept in shadows on purpose for some reason I hope. She's a seventh daughter so I'd expect she has some hidden powers, like in the tales.

I suppose what happened to her in Book 2 will make her extremely "receptive" or sensitive to Voldemort. He'll be able to control her mind and body.

She may try something like a love potion on Harry and they may even date but it won't work (Harry'll discover Hermione by then...). I see Ginny with Draco better.

By the way, what's the complete name of Ginny? Virginia, Ginebra? Does it say in the books?

[Barbara Kennedy]

I believe its just "Ginny".

[Auri DeMeer]

Well, Ron is Ronald; and Percy may be Percival (like King Arthur's knight). Bill must be William as well. Why should Ginny be "just Ginny"?

[Silk E Smooth]

I think maybe Imogen or Gineivive.

[min]

There's a lot of people thinking that Harry will be with Ginny because Hermione and Ron will be together. I think they both will be nearest in the next books because they have a comond bond with Voldemort.
Voldemort put something in Harry and later did the same with Ginny. So if they need speak to something about theirs worrys, who could understand better?

[geminiangel91]

Originally posted by dumbleedore (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=72155#post72155))
Hmm... getting idea...

Ginny dies and whilst it's not Harry's fault, Ron blames Harry. They stop talking and something happens to Ron and Harry saves him and they become friends again.


that's a wonderful idea i think something to dat extent is gonna happen

[jordmundt6]

I don't think Ginny will die before Book 6, if at all. And there was no hint last time she almost died that Ron blamed Harry. What would change this time. Harry gets there but he can't save her or she gives herself up to save Harry? Something like that?

[potterfreak24]

OK I haven't sen this discussed anywhere...and mod's youcan deleate this if it has been discussed...

How did Ginny get inside the Chamber? How did she open it? Does she speak Parseltounge? (sp?) Did Tom posess her? Does any one have any answers?

I think the answers to this will be addressed in book 5 since JK said herself Ginny will have a more prominentrole in book 5...or something along those lines...

can anyone help?

[miri]

Presumably, when Tom was controlling her he was able to manipulat her mouth and throat into speaking Parseltongue, although the knowledge isn't inherently in her.

We know that Tom did posess her some of the time, making her do things that she later had no recollection of, such as strangling the roosters, red paint, opening the Chamber and letting out the Basilisk...

It is possible when they actually went there to wait for Harry that Tom was solid enough to carry her unconscious body.

[Justin Etre]

I think that this is simialr to other threads,but I shall answer your question.

Ginny got into the Chamber of Secrets by Tom speaking Pareseltongue through her. However, Tom said he was pouring some of himself back into her, so whether or not Ginny is able to speak parseltongue like Harry can is undefined.

[Doggy]

I think he sort of took over her body (like the imperius curse-ish), so he forced her to go to the toilet, open it and go down there, until she gave enough life to the diary so that Riddle could come out.

If she can speak parseltongue? Well, no-one knows, really, but I don't really t´hink so. It was Riddle's doing.

[potterfreak24]

So what seems to be the consensus so far is that she was possessed by Tom who just used her body as a vessel to get what he wanted done..... is that really the imperius curse then? Or something else that Harry and Comp. will have to deal with?

[rotsiepots]

I'm going to merge this topic with an existing thread on Miss Weasley entitled, Ginny Weasley (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2795).

:)

[aiko amaya]

Originally posted by potterfreak24 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=349000#post349000))
So what seems to be the consensus so far is that she was possessed by Tom who just used her body as a vessel to get what he wanted done..... is that really the imperius curse then? Or something else that Harry and Comp. will have to deal with?

no not the imperius curse, he was stealing her life force and was in contol of her body he lived throught her. I think of it as a type of hypnosis. Alsp you don't have to be parsle mouth to speak parsle tougne, I'm sure it can be tauggh, just like mermish.

[potterfreak24]

another thing that has bugged me was how did Tom riddle know what happened? He preserved himself in a diary...how would diary tom know what happened? Did ginny tell him everything? and if so how did she know it all?

Just another tought about ginny's importance....

[Buttercup]

Well Ginny knew the story of Harry and what happened when he was a baby, it seemed like most wizarding children grew up with that story and she knew about what happened in Harry's first year with the stone. She asked Ron a lot of questions that summer so she knew details that other kids probably didn't know as her brother was involved in it. She could have just told the diary the facts. It didn't seem that Tom Riddle knew all of the details of Voldemorts rise but he knew it happened.

I like Ginny so I just hate the thought of her dying but it could happen. I rule nothing out.

[FlyingPhoenix]

It is very possible that she died because she is in Harrys dept. He saved her and she have to pay it future back. I ask myself how will that be?

[GilyAnn]

She's been kept in shadows on purpose for some reason I hope. She's a seventh daughter so I'd expect she has some hidden powers, like in the tales.
I suppose what happened to her in Book 2 will make her extremely "receptive" or sensitive to Voldemort. He'll be able to control her mind and body.

7th childs are usually specials. Some of the powers that have been listed are healers, second sight (which it was hinted at GoF for Ginny)and having the power to destroy evil.
So Ginny was probably the wrong person to give the diary too. Since instead of Voldemort control her, she will probably be a key to his undoing.

I think he sort of took over her body (like the imperius curse-ish), so he forced her to go to the toilet, open it and go down there, until she gave enough life to the diary so that Riddle could come out.

Ginny was pouring her soul to the diary, by this Riddle was takin over her soul and coming alive.

I like Ginny so I just hate the thought of her dying but it could happen.

Don't worry Buttercup she won't die. She is going to be very important in Harry's life.;D

Gily Ann

[Buttercup]

GilyAnn,

I really want her to live. I feel for the girl. I think that I myself relate more to her that I would Hermione.

I think myself (and hope) that she will live to be a very helpful person to Harry and against Voldemort. Some have suggested that she will go evil again but I really doubt it. JKR sort of had her evil before and why do that again? There are so many more characters that would be interesting to go evil. Ginny was used before because NO ONE expected it. I was shocked at the end of CoS. Who would have guessed this little girl was letting that beast out and 'controlling' it?

I would really like to see her get a little Weasley 'attitude' and a little more spunk. It is time for her to blossom. I mean with that red hair she has to be gorgeous. She is always described in rather flattering terms. I think it would be funny for all the boys in school to fall for her and she ignores Harry. I would love it.

[ChaliceInnana]

I will hate it if the one to die is any of the children, including Draco and cronies. But if it is Ginny it'll break my heart.

All the signs point to Ginny being really special. The seventh child, only daughter, and to top it off a red head? I would be really surprised if Ginny hadn't retained Tom's ability to speak parseltongue and a few of his other abilities.

But we don't know enough about Ginny! Except she is fiesty in defense of others, (Hermione, Harry, Neville) but not necessarily in her own defense.

She has been really over protected as her mother's baby and only girl. Also as the baby sister of 6 crazy redheaded boys, no doubt she is both adored and sheltered, yet tormented and teased.

I also hope her friendship with Hermione blossoms. Both girls need someone to talk to who will not spill secrets and who is not a boy.

I want her to play quidittch too. I believe there is at least one chaser position open. Heck, just give the girl something to do!

[potterfreak24]

Originally posted by ChaliceInnana (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=352379#post352379))
I would be really surprised if Ginny hadn't retained Tom's ability to speak parseltongue and a few of his other abilities.

She has been really over protected as her mother's baby and only girl. Also as the baby sister of 6 crazy redheaded boys, no doubt she is both adored and sheltered, yet tormented and teased.

I want her to play quidittch too. I believe there is at least one chaser position open. Heck, just give the girl something to do!


I agree with your theory of having Ginny retain some of Tom's powers. I still dont think that she was under the imperous curse (cant spell). I think that her retained abilities will come to light in book 5. But I also think that she will use her new powers to help Harry battle Voldemort, and as a result, she will die because she isn't stong enough to contol those powers.

As far as having her play Quidittch, has she even shown any interest in it at all?

At this point I don't really see the point of having Ginny in the books with the exception of book 2. After CoS I expected to see a lot more of her, but she seemed to dissapear back into the background.

[NatalyHP]

Originally posted by GilyAnn (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=183791#post183791))
Her future roll is going to be very interesting not to mention shocking.

I agree with Gily 150% ;)

[too_wicked]

She's gotta be something special. She is very important in CoS and she suddenly faded away in PoA and GoF so it's possible that JK is preparing something about Ginny to be revealed in future books. I don't want her to die either! I'm just starting to like the girl!

I have to agree that she is really attractive. My mom was watching the CoS DVD last week and when she saw Ginny she said, "Oh, isn't she pretty! Is she the one Harry's gonna date!" I have to say I was shocked! My mother never cared about Harry's love life!

It would be great to get to know her better in the future books as Ginny Weasley and not as Ginny-Ron's sister. That's why I hope JK spares her!

[aiko amaya]

Originally posted by GilyAnn (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=351386#post351386))
7th childs are usually specials. Some of the powers that have been listed are healers, second sight (which it was hinted at GoF for Ginny)and having the power to destroy evil.
So Ginny was probably the wrong person to give the diary too. Since instead of Voldemort control her, she will probably be a key to his undoing.

Don't worry Buttercup she won't die. She is going to be very important in Harry's life.;D

Gily Ann


How appropriate it would be if Ginny Vanquised evil, she is the embodiment of innocence in these books, and is just so darn CUTE! I don't think she will Die, she is Lily Potter parallele in the books so she has to stay till the end, and get married to harry and live happily ever after. Yes yes I do have a childs mind with superior intelect......

[randomfan86]

Hmmm....I don't know if this has been brought up yet but.....
We know the JK said she'll play an important role in book 5
We also know that someone a "fan" of harry's will die
And that there is some connection between Ginny and Harry b/c he saved her life...

Based on these, I'd venture a guess that she might sacrifice her life in order to safe Harry's.

[Goldie]

Ginny will be a lot more important regardless of whether she lives or dies. If she lives, she's got to become more interesting or why bother, and if she dies, that will have a tremendous impact on everybody, making her important in death.

However, I just don't see her dying. Harry may have a brush with death every other week, but so far no one else has, and I don't see Ginny bucking that trend.

What I do see is that Harry has a crush on Cho. He'll try to connect with her - I have a hard time visualizing Harry hitting on anyone at this point - but Cho will still be getting over Cedric. She knows that Harry was there when Cedric died, and even though he wasn't responsible, could do nothing to stop it, and she doesn't blame him, it will make things difficult between them. End of Harry and Cho.

At the same time, Harry also knows that when one wizard saves another wizard's life, a bond is created. He understands that this applies to his relationships with Peter Pettigrew and Voldemort, and even Ron and Hermione, and he just may begin to realize that this also applies to his relationship with Ginny.

When book 5 starts, Ginny will be 14, no longer a little girl. Harry may just pick up on that fact if things are too awkward between him and Cho, he sees that Ron has finally figured out that Hermione isn't just one of the guys, and those famous hormones are in overdrive.

Well, we'll all find out in two weeks, if the wait doesn't kill us first.

[aiko amaya]

Originally posted by Goldie (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=356095#post356095))

At the same time, Harry also knows that when one wizard saves another wizard's life, a bond is created. He understands that this applies to his relationships with Peter Pettigrew and Voldemort, and even Ron and Hermione, and he just may begin to realize that this also applies to his relationship with Ginny.

When book 5 starts, Ginny will be 14, no longer a little girl. Harry may just pick up on that fact if things are too awkward between him and Cho, he sees that Ron has finally figured out that Hermione isn't just one of the guys, and those famous hormones are in overdrive.

Well, we'll all find out in two weeks, if the wait doesn't kill us first.


Well it did take Harry and Ron 4 years to realise that hermione was a Girl.It would so warm my heart if those two went together.

[Buttercup]

I am very interested to see if 'little' Ginny changes over the summer, both physically and mentally. I still think it would be great if she turns out to be the prettiest girl in the school and all the boys fall in love with her (without the use of love potions!).

[Silk E Smooth]

She could have a growth spurt. And I have a feeling she could even appeal to a lot of guys in the new school year, ofcourse making Ron work overtime on the big brother job.

[Rowena Ravenclaw]

I'm really looking forward to Ron going all protective. :D Though he's never had a problem with her crush on Harry or her dance with Neville. Would the relationship just have to be a serious one for him to react, or would it depend on the guy?

[Silk E Smooth]

Yeah but if groups of guys heads turn when she's walking through the portrait hole...you know ron is going to act as bodyguard. I pretict some good fist fights in the future.

[aiko amaya]

Yup I can see Ron doing that to, the little hot headed devil. I don't really see fred and George doing that though, I think they would just tease Ginny like nuts! Poor Ginny, I have two older brothers and it's hard to bear their teasing when it comes to guys and stuff. Plus they always take the best food for snacks. Stupid them with their growth spurts devouring all food in sight. I feel so much for Ginny.

[Buttercup]

I bet Fred and George leave Ginny with all the bad flavors of Bernie Botts. Poor thing.

Yes, I can see Ron getting very upset over any boy that would flirt with Ginny. I wonder if her brothers will be even more protective of her since Voldemort is back. Molly might tell the boys to not let her out of their sight or something. I wonder if we will see how Ginny reacts to his reappearance, since we have no clue from book 4.

[potterfreak24]

Did anyone find it interesting that in the movie of CoS Harry was carrying Ginny? WHen in the book it was Ron? Just wondering why that might have been changed...

[dogdog]

First, I did do a search but did not find it anywhere. So here goes:

What if Ginny is adopted? The Weasleys have all boys except for her. She seems to a very quiet, keep to herself kind of person and I wonder who she "really" is and what she is "really" about.

[FawkesBox]

Although I wouldn't say that this is impossible... I'd say it is unlikely because she has Weasley hair- unless this is some kind of misnomer which is meant to point us in the wrong direction- perhaps she is really Albus Dumbledore's (maybe even Aberforth's )granddaughter (Remember that DD has auburn hair in CoS). The Weasleys are a loving family so I could see them taking in a adoptive daughter. Maybe she is even the child of the muggle accountant....

Interesting thoughts but maybe this could be discussed here...
http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2795

[Rowena Ravenclaw]

It's an interesting thought (and maybe one that belongs in the general Ginny Weasley thread), but I don't think so. According to Ron, she only "shuts up" in Harry's presence. And it's convenient that the Weasleys would be able to adopt a daughter who looks exactly like the rest of the family.

[familiar]

Actually I know one family that had 4 boys then a girl and last another boy, and another that had 4 girls, then a boy. Another had 3 boys, then 4 girls. I also remember reading in the news a few years ago about a family that hadn't had a daughter in 2 or 3 generations - then when one of the sons finally had one it was quite an event for the whole family. It seems wierd, but it's all possible and does happen. I'm positive Ginny was born a Weasley, and the "adopted" child is Harry (that is, Mr and Mrs Weasley are so attached to him by now that he is their family as far as they are concerned.)

[Silk E Smooth]

I don't know. We just don't know a enough about her to really think that she is all that different. The main difference is that she is a girl and girls are just different sometimes.

[preludetoadream]

I doubt it verrrrrry much she has too many weasly traits and like Rowena Ravenclaw said Ron said she normally doesn't shut up

[Silk E Smooth]

Maybe they want to show the heroism of the act a bit more so Harry did the honors. But I think it would be a lot more realistic for the concerned brother to carry her out which is why it's probably written like that. Plus Harry is probably beat up a little. But I always say that the Chamber scene is romantic, depending on how you look at it.

[Fuchsia]

You can have a different personality and still belong to a family. It happens all of the time in real life.
She's not always quiet either. She babbled about Harry all of the time when he wasn't there.
I myself was quite the chatter box until I kept being told to shutup by my older sibs. Maybe Ginny just got tired of no one listening so she didn't tell them everything.
The shame of opening the chamber could keep anyone from telling.

[Silk E Smooth]

I too can relate to this actually. I am the youngest girl in a family full of boys. I am so different from all of them. I have different views and morals on just about everything. But alas, my dream of being adopted is not real. I look too much like my parents.

[Cat]

I don't think there's any evidence at all to say she's adopted. There's some evidence to say she isn't, such as her Weasley appearance. But being the only girl doesn't mean she must be adopted!

Do you not think that she might be quiet and reserved because she's the only girl in a family of older brothers? I know what brothers can be like :D

[Raven]

I think she becomes flustered in Harry's presence. He's probably one of the few boys she has seen outside of her family, and she fell for him right away. The fact that he's HARRY POTTER might have something to do with it too.

[Raven]

I like the idea that Ginny may have retained some of Voldemort's abilities, so I'm going to take it a bit further.

Ginny, upon hearing or feeling something that has to do with Voldemort goes to confide in Harry. As somebody else mentioned, Ginny and Harry are the only two people in the Magical world to survive an attack by Voldemort, and Ginny would figure that if anybody would listen to and understand her it would be Harry.

Now I'm really going to delve into fantasy:
Whatever it is that Ginny can hear or feel pertaining to Voldemort might act as a second alarm or third alarm bell (the two bells being Harry's scar and Snape's Dark Mark). That could help the Order of the Phoenix out think Voldemort.

Final thought: Between Snape, Harry and possibly Ginny; Voldemort is going to have a hard time keeping his plans secret.

[rotsiepots]

I'll merge this with the thread mentioned in FawkesBox's post. :)

I'm very doubtful if Ginny is adopted -- being in the only girl in a family of boys doesn't necessarily indicate that she's not related to any of them. As Rowena and Fuchsia said, she is a typical Weasley in terms of her disposition. She only shuts up when Harry's around.

[Madame Malfoy]

Hi. I just had a thouht about Ginny. I am sorry if it has already been discussed but I did a quick search and couldn't find much. I am also too tired to read this entire thread, I just skimmed it.
Anyway what I was thinking is, why does Ginny like Harry? Doesn't Ron say in CoS that Ginny has been talking about Harry all summer. She hadn't even met him! I know that instant crushes happen, but to be obsessed with someone you've had no contact with...?
It makes me think that she might be a female that is attracted to more superficial things like fame (remember, she'd never even talked to him, yet had been talking about him all summer). Well if she is that easily attracted, what is stopping her from going over to Voldemort. If she wants fame and power, he's the way to go. And being slighted by Harry could be just enough for her to turn her affections elsewhere (not neccisaryly(sp?) to Voldemort, just to the dark side).
Sorry if this has already been discussed. It is quite hard to keep track.
MM

[Kenshin]

Its just like you said. She probably likes him because he is famous. It is just like the teen girls who have crushes on Brad Pitt, boy group members, etc. Its because they are famous. Also, I bet she likes him more because he saved her life in CS.

The reason why she isn't going over to Voldemort is because he is evil. Hussein is famous, actually infamous, but there aren't any girls who have crushes on him. Atleast, I hope not. Also, where does it say she wants fame and power?

[Buttercup]

Ginny grew up hearing all about the 'boy who lived'. Harry Potter this and Harry Potter that. She sees him getting on the train with her brother and her brother turns out to be BEST FRIENDS with him. She gets to meet him and he is nice to her. Gosh I think I have a crush now. So yeah initial crush is due to his fame and such, but then he turns out to pretty nice too. Don't forget the eyes, I just love green eyes.

[aiko amaya]

Originally posted by Madame Malfoy (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=361773#post361773))
Hi. I just had a thouht about Ginny. I am sorry if it has already been discussed but I did a quick search and couldn't find much. I am also too tired to read this entire thread, I just skimmed it.
Anyway what I was thinking is, why does Ginny like Harry? Doesn't Ron say in CoS that Ginny has been talking about Harry all summer. She hadn't even met him! I know that instant crushes happen, but to be obsessed with someone you've had no contact with...?
It makes me think that she might be a female that is attracted to more superficial things like fame (remember, she'd never even talked to him, yet had been talking about him all summer). Well if she is that easily attracted, what is stopping her from going over to Voldemort. If she wants fame and power, he's the way to go. And being slighted by Harry could be just enough for her to turn her affections elsewhere (not neccisaryly(sp?) to Voldemort, just to the dark side).
Sorry if this has already been discussed. It is quite hard to keep track.
MM


It neccessaurily mean that she only likes hary for his fame. It may just play a small role in her rush. I mean I had a huge crush on this guy I had never talked probably only said hi to him when I had a crush on him. It was more of an obsession actually. It's actually kinda natural at that age to do that, especially if they have been nice to em. Besids, he may be a little runty, but he still could be really cute as written in the books.

[slapps_clemons]

i agree i think that her initial attraction is fame but then she meets him. but i think that she is a typical teen and has a cute crush it's not like colin who is obsessed with him. :coolblue:

[Rowena Ravenclaw]

At eleven, runty's good. That's the way I remember it, anyway (come to think of it, my sixth-grade crush looked an awful lot like Harry). And knowing precious little about someone while at the same time being convinced you two are destined for each other is pretty standard, whether or not the person's famous. Spinning out romantic scenarios is half the attraction.

[Summergurl]

I Think Ginny's "obsession" I guess with Harry, it has gotten smaller throughout the books. yes, you do see little of her, but for example in CoS when she firsts sees him she runs away lol. and I think after the 2nd book, the part that liked him for the "boy who lived" stuff was still there but she got to have a crush on him for other reason...I may be making no sence...its late :) lol.

as for Ootp....I am going with the Molly death but in the summary it says "Harry finds depth and strength in his friends, beyond what even he knew; boundless loyalty, and unbearable sacrifice." unbearable sacrifice??? this may have been discussed but could this mean someone is going to sacrifice themselves for Harry??? hmm maybe Ginny???? oooh I hope not! I feel for the girl sometimes....

[Buttercup]

If Ginny dies (which I dearly hope not) I don't think it will be in book 5. For her to die and it to really mean something horrible we would have to have more of a build up of her character. She really hasn't been around that much in the past two books so it wouldn't be to me all that climatic. Now we are to see more if her in book 5 but is it enough to build her up a little through out the book and then kill her off at the end? I really don't think she will die because she almost died in CoS and I think that JKR has more of use for her to be alive at this point. There are some unresolved issues from CoS that I think will come to light. I have a couple of ideas as to who will die but since this is not that thread I won't bring it up.

[jordmundt6]

Molly's death is a horrible thought. About Ginny and her supposed "fame" obsession. If that's true, why isn't she bowled over by Lockhart as Hermione is for awhile (up until after Valentine's day). Also, she doesn't appear pleased with the press and is even defiantly defensive of Harry when Malfoy starts with the "You just loved that, didn't you Potter?" line. Her defense of Harry took a lot more guts than you might think. Also, we don't see her much in Book Five but it doesn't really look like her feelings have changed much. She's as clumsy, shy and adoring as ever in PoA (the crush intensified by the fact that Harry saved her life) and she's upset, though not crestfallen, when she hears Harry asked Cho to the Yule Ball. Oh, and she's close to tears when exsplaining she can't be Harry's date, even as an emergency (which we can see she would kill for) Poor Neville. Still no luck with women.

[Lupins Ladee]

Hey I like Ginny. I think it shows great character that she said no she couldn't go with Harry, She promised Neville. ALOT of girls I know would dump Neville so fast his head would spin if they got the chance to go with their crush to a ball that they wanted to go to but wouldn't be able to unless they went with someone who was invited.
I noticed alot of people say that Ginny is damsel in distress like and silly all b/c of the diary inncident. Well I cut her a break I mean she is the baby and the only girl in a very large family. She seems quite and she seems to mind her business. Therefore, Molly is prob very busy watching her children who don't mind their own business and who enjoy starting trouble or can't seem to avoid trouble
"cough" Fed /George/ Ron "cough". So Ginny prob keeps to herself and is attention starved. So when she found the diary and a diary that talked back and "cared" about what was going on in her life. She was overjoyed. I am glad Ginny will be playing a bigger part in Book 5. I hope she doesn't die. She deserves to be developed more.

[Snape's Cape]

I never used to be a fan of Ginny, until I read GoF, but now I like her more and more . I agree it look a lot for her to turn down the opportunity to go to the Yule Ball with Harry. It would have been a dream come true for her, and she could easily have given Neville some excuse such as "Harry's a triwizard Champion, he HAS to have a pertner!" But she didn't choose the easy way out, and that deserves credit. The way she kept the secret of Hermione's date from Harry and Ron shows she can be trusted. It has been said that Ginny is weak, but I disagree. She manages to break free from the mind control she is under, temporarily at least, and flush Voldemort down the toilet. Bear in mind that she is 11 years old at the time. Harry is 14 when he manages to fight the Imperius curse.
I also think that old demons will return to haunt her, but she will triumph over them.

[slapps_clemons]

i think she is strong and b/c she is strong she will have a larger part in the fifth book than we think. i have a feeling that J.K. will develope her more in the next book

[Summergurl]

I agree with alot of you. I like Ginny...when I first read CoS i thought her crush for harry and the valentine card was sooooo cute lol. I also agree on the fact that she stuck with going with Neville when she was clearly upset about the fact she could of had harry. ahh maybe within Harry's next few years he'll start noticing his best friends lil sis :)

[silverquill]

Ginny is now my favorite Weasley. She is so much more interesting now that she's not following Harry around in awe. And she seems to be turning into a pretty competent witch as well. :bigtu:

[Hermione2006]

I definitely think that she will mount to something...I dont think JKR is done with her yet...I guess we will see someday!

[Dedalus Diggle]

So is she really dating Dean Thomas? I got the impression that she just threw his name out there to tweak Ron and to let Harry know that he can't just count on her to always just wait for him to decide whether he likes her or not.