Survivor: Vanuatu -- Islands of Fire

[Bee]

Well hello, it's that time again, time for the newest SURVIVOR thread! Us avid Survivor fans have had fun discussing every little detail from Survivor: Pearl Islands and Survivor: All-Stars, and now we can pick apart Survivor: Vanuatu!

Some info:
-it will be played on the islands of Vanuatu (obviously :)), near the Ring of Fire (a bunch of islands riddled with volcanoes). THAT should be interesting!
-the men and women will be pitted against each other once again, like in Survivor: Amazon. The women's tribe is going to be Yasur (team colour: yellow) and the men's Lopevi (team colour: red).
-CBS has released named and biographical info

And heeeeere are the players!

YASUR (women):
-Julie Berry, 23, youth mentor
-Ami Cusack, 23, coffee server
-Mia Galeotalanza, 30, finance manager
-Lisa Keiffer, 44, real estate agent
-Scout Cloud Lee, 59, rancher and entrepreneur (I love the name Scout!)
-Dolly Neely, 25, sheep farmer
-Eliza Orlins, 21, pre-law student
-Leann Slaby, 35, research assistant
-Twila Tanner, 41, works in highway repair

LOPEVI (men):
-Chad Crittenden, 35, teacher (an amputee)
-Chris Daugherty, 33, works in highway construction
-Brady Finta, 33, FBI agent (FBI! Cool!)
-Rory Freeman, 35, housing case manager
-Brook Geraghty, 27, project manager
-John Kenney, 22, mechanical bull operator and model
-Lea "Sarge" Masters, 40, drill sergeant
-John Palyok, 31, sales manager at Home Depot
-Travis "Bubba" Sampson, 33, works in loss prevention

All of them seem really young. Most of the women are in their 20's and the oldest is only 59! The men are almost all in their 30's, and the oldest is only FORTY. This is going to be a really energetic season!

Comments? Gossip? Inside scoop? Post away, Survivor fans!

[HannahStarr]

I'm soo excited that a new season of Survivor is about to start! My calendar was marked a week ago. :D

It amuses me that Ami Cusack is a coffee server. :lol:
And the name Scout Cloud Lee is awesome! :D

[Catherine Weasley]

Yes! This is awesome, I've been waiting very impatiently for the next Survivor...I'm going to blindly pick my winner right now...Brook Geraghty.

When does it start? And where in the world is Vanuatu?

[RubberSoul]

Yes! I love these Survivor threads...I can't wait for this season to start because it'll be all new people, and no one has any presumptions as of yet. It's great that it's guys versus girls again, but I don't know what's up with that age thing. We kind of need our resident old guy to make things fun.

[Bee]

It amuses me that Ami Cusack is a coffee server.

HannahStarr, the actual title is "barista" but I mean c'mon... let's not sugar coat it :D!

And RubberSoul, I totally agree. We DO need a resident old guy! I mean, Rudy was so awesome, we need to reincarnate him for EVERY season! Plus old women are hilarious. Anybody remember Jan and her bat grave? Priceless.

My pick for winner is Scout Cloud Lee. Let's hear it for hippies!

[OrlisGrape]

Yay! I can't wait, I think this survivor will be interesting, with the location, and everyone is so young! I haven't heard when it starts though. Does anyone know?

[HannahStarr]

HannahStarr, the actual title is "barista" but I mean c'mon... let's not sugar coat it :D!

:rotfl: My bad! :lol:

My pick for winner is Scout Cloud Lee. Let's hear it for hippies!

Ditto. I hope she's as cool as her name is! :D

[Boston_Rob_Rox]

Bee, Jan and the bat grave and her shouting "Beer" at like all the reward challenges was priceless!! I'm not so sure about this cast though. I was getting serious S3 Africa vibes from them aka BORING. How come almost all of them have a military connection. hmmmm. I hope there's a lot of conflict, if the cast is a dud, an extended season(because of 18 castaways) will be a drag. Early faves

Lea MAsters - a little scary but...
John Paylok - his birthday is closest to mine


Early hatred

Scout - urgh don't get me started, another LIL in the making >_<

I don't know about guys vs. girls again though. good for a novelty once, but twice..
Also, this is the 3rd youngest season, Just above S7PI and S6amazon

I just have 2 more requests NO GHOST TRIBE!! NO LIL!!!

[FoxyKnoxy]

Hey guys! I have been addicted to Survivor since day one and I am really looking forward to the new season!
You can check out what each person looks like at the following link to CBS:

CBS Survivor Vanuatu (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/)

The new season begins Thursday, September 16! So Mark Your Calanders!!!

Already I am not liking people just based on looks (I know I shouldn't so that because it tends to back fire on me!). So far I am not liking Dolly, Scout, John K. and Mia. But I do like the FBI guy Brady :drool: ! I am sure my feelings will change once the show starts and people start playing the 'game'!

I think that the show won't quite be the same as the past two seasons because Rupert isn't on and I love that guy!

[Angora]

:rotfl: There's a man named Brady! That means every time he comes on screen I get to sing (or yell, but whatever), "It's the story! Of a man named Brady!" I'm looking forward to that really a lot.

And I already like Dolly the sheep farmer. Her favorite magazines are "National Rifleman, People, Deer & Deer Hunting". And she's a sheep farmer named Dolly. Who "is a shepherdess to approximately 40 sheep." Doesn't it seem like the shepherdess should know the exact number of sheep? I predict her being half of a huge big personality clash really early on. And I look forward to it.

Also, Twila is in highway repair and Chris is in highway construction. They will have so much to talk about if they ever meet! Oooh, like Lea the (male) drill sergeant and The Man Named Brady! the ex-military guy.

[FoxyKnoxy]

Is Amy Cusack a lesbian as the cbs website said she as been dating someone named Crissy for 3 years?

OK I am definately on Brady's side now! Check out this HOT Pic of him :love: !!!
http://wwwimage.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/images/survivors/brady/lower_bio.jpg

I think I don't like Dolly because she reminds me of Holly off of Big Brother 5 and she was really anoying.

[Bee]

Boston Rob Rox:

Even though I quite like the look of Scout Cloud Lee, I could definitely see her turning into a Lil like you said! :D!

Ring a bell? "I am LILLIAN MORRIS! LILLLLLIIIAAANNNN MORRRIIISSSSS!!!"

[Boston_Rob_Rox]

Ring a bell? "I am LILLIAN MORRIS! LILLLLLIIIAAANNNN MORRRIIISSSSS!!!"
NOOOOO!!!Anything but that!!...ok anything but Rupert! After seeing promos on ET and Inside Edition, my hopes for the season have gone up. John Palyok "I'm gonna lie. I'm gonna cheat. I'm gonna steal" YES!! Just like Eddie Guerrero(WWE reference there). There is a rumor that Scout goes far, I hope it's not true!!
No more boy scout moments with a new lil. Oh no, now when she tries to make an alliance, she can go "scout's honor" *throws up*
Dolly just seems annoying, but not like Holly!! Holly was cool!! Stupid Jase and Scott. Holly said cool things like "Are the vultures still alive?"
Brady seems a little cute, so does John P. John K. is a model(yeah right, before it just said mechanical bull operator.)but he's ugly. No one will ever match the ultimate reality TV hotties, Boston Rob from Survivor and Justin Giovinco from Big Brother 4!!

Go LEA MASTERS!!! He's the man!! Lea Masters 04' don't stop, can't stop, won't stop!!!

[caspeer89]

awesome i cant wait until the next season.... this will give my family something too talk about, lol

[MMELevrier]

As an old bat myself, I must take exception to all the Scout dislike, based solely on her looks.

Let's wait and see, OK? If she's a PITA, by all means...go for the jugular. Personally, I think John K has the potential for being the Survivor we'll all love to hate.

This is our second favorite show...the first is the Amazing Race. The question I always ask, after the first episode of Survivor, is why can't any of them start a fire with their glasses? I've heard you can't do it with the acrylic lenses everyone uses these days, so if it's sunny tomorrow, I'm gonna try. At least this time I won't get in trouble with my mother.

And Vanuatu? It's one of the islands of the New Hebrides, in the south Pacific. Espiritu Santu is another in the chain, and they figure prominently in the movie "In Harm's Way." There was action in World War II on the islands. They are volcanic, have frequent earthquakes, and occasional killer tsunamis.

I just don't know if any of this lot is up to killing a shark (albeit a small one) with their teeth.

[atherella]

As an old bat myself, I must take exception to all the Scout dislike, based solely on her looks.



I didn't realize there were other Survivor fans on this site until now. Hooray! I'm a big Survivor addict, and have had the pleasure to meet a lot of past survivors through a website I belong to. I have to just say something about Lill here. She is VERY different from how she was EDITED on the show. She did seem whiny on the show a bit, and like she frowned a lot, but I've had the pleasure of talking with Lill several times, and we email regularly, and she is a WONDERFUL woman. She is very kind, and is able to see the good in almost anyone. She's very, very kind. It is really easy for us to judge how someone is portrayed on a tv show, but what we have to remember is we are only seeing less than ONE hour per week, for any given 3 day period on this show. A lot goes on that isn't shown, because it isn't as exciting television, and the editing is part of what makes Survivor so great, but it doesn't always give us a realistic view of the contestants.

I have a questions...are spoilers allowed in this thread, or do most people prefer not to know what is going to happen ahead of time? I usually manage to come across great info in advance and don't mind sharing, but I certainly don't want to put up anything that would upset anyone. I'm a bit out of the loop right now for the upcoming season, since I've been very sick lately, but, now that I am out of the hospital, I'll be catching up on everything I've missed out on.

[Bee]

atherella, basically the unspoken rules (which will now be... spoken :D) are:

1. That you under NO circumstances post a spoiler! Spoiler include rumours about the final 2, 4, 8, winner, etc. They also include anything that isn't said directly on the show or in a media interview with the producer or something (ie., you got it off a spoiler website, you know a player personally and they've told you ((also setting them back $5 million :D)) or you saw it in a rumour-y newspaper, like the National Enquirer or something).

2. I lied. If you have an overwhelming desire to post a spoiler, you can. But it MUST MUST MUST be in spoiler tags! Spoiler tags look like this:

I secretly hate Survivor with a passion.

That way, only people interested in seeing spoilers can see it, by highlighting spoiler tags.

3. That everyone is respectful. To each other, I mean, just like every other thread on CoS forums. And just because you can't slag other CoS members doesn't mean you can't slag the players :D! There's always some we don't like, and unfortunately for them they've entered a reality TV show and have basically given us the right to slag 'em. Well, for what they've done on the show. If anyone disagrees with this... well, I respect your opinion :D

One last thing: atherella, where is this website you belong to that let's you meet past Survivors? Sounds cool.

[atherella]

It's actually a private board, Bee. I posted at a Survivor board originally, and then got an invite after a long time to a private board. We have about 10 or so ex survivors posting there regularly, and once in awhile we have others pop in and post. We had the entire boot list for all stars before the season even started, it was pretty amazing. I like going on a week to week basis normally, but All stars was a bit different since we already 'knew' the people.

Thanks for explaining the 'unspoken rules'. I will keep all spoilers to myself, but if anyone wants any info as the season goes on (once I have caught up), I'd be glad to share what I know. :)

[RubberSoul]

Wow, that's awesome about the Survivor boards, atherella. Sounds fun to be able to actually talk with previous survivors and see what they're really about. During the season it'd be great if you could put up some interesting things for those of us who can't wait until Thursday nights to see the next episode!

Now, based on looks alone, Eliza Orlins looks like a potential spoiled witch on this show. Julie Berry looks like a sweetheart, and ummm...John Kenney, the mechanical bull operator/model (hehe) doesn't look very outdoorsy.

[Spew Member]

Someone told me that Rupert was going to be involved in the show in someway, is that a rumor?

[GryffindorSeeker]

I have no clue if it is. I think they're saying that because of the commercials with Rupert in them.... I can't wait for this next season! Weeee! What's the new twist? I've heard something about one, and if it's guys against girls, that's not new.... :shrug:

[MMELevrier]

I am so glad CBS found a place for Rupert. I have been a big fan of him ever since he "pirated" the other team's shoes on the Pearl Islands series. Yes, he has his faults, but overall, we've found him to be the most entertaining and capable person. He can start a fire (most of the time, anyway, I seem to recall that he didn't on All-Stars), he can catch fish. Well, he can't build a shelter in a decent spot.

[Spew Member]

I have no clue if it is. I think they're saying that because of the commercials with Rupert in them....

Probably, it would be fun if he was in it though! I don't know about the plot twists, they always have really good ones though! (Except for the time they let those Survivors back on who had been kicked off already...)

I am so glad CBS found a place for Rupert. I have been a big fan of him ever since he "pirated" the other team's shoes on the Pearl Islands series.

That was a classic moment wasn't it? :rotfl: Rupert was awesome! :tu:

[HannahStarr]

It seems like they're just putting Rupert in the commercials as an excuse to give him more air time. I like Rupert, though after watching him back-to-back in Pearl Islands and All-Stars, I've gotten a bit tired of him. So, no offense to Rupert fans, but I really hope he doesn't have an integral role in this season of Survivor.

[FoxyKnoxy]

HannahStarr
It seems like they're just putting Rupert in the commercials as an excuse to give him more air time. I like Rupert, though after watching him back-to-back in Pearl Islands and All-Stars, I've gotten a bit tired of him. So, no offense to Rupert fans, but I really hope he doesn't have an integral role in this season of Survivor.
I am a huge Rupert fan and the absolute best scene of him was when he stole the shoes. But you are right HannahStarr, too much of a good thing can ruin it all as it takes away from the new game of players. Rupert was great at Pearl Islands and All-Stars but lets just leave it at that CBS shall we! The game is called 'Survivor' not 'Rupert's Play Ground' :lol: It is time for the game to move on and to allow us to greet these new blood thirsty competitors!

Besides the obvious males vs females twist, I wonder what other twists this new season of Survivor will bring us? Anyone have any clues?

[Angora]

Rupert. :grumble:

atherella, I always love spoilers. I have no patience. I was especially impressed last season when CBS changed the colours of the buffs everyone was wearing in the previews for one of the episodes (the one where Amber got stuck with the Mogo Mogos) and I had been relying on the stills analysis at Survivor Sucks... and then the episode aired that it turned out everyone was wearing different colours. That was awesome.

[GryffindorSeeker]

There's nothing wrong with Rupert. In fact, I really like him, but too much air time will make him loose the appeal of seeing him.

[atherella]

Rupert. :grumble:

atherella, I always love spoilers. I have no patience. I was especially impressed last season when CBS changed the colours of the buffs everyone was wearing in the previews for one of the episodes (the one where Amber got stuck with the Mogo Mogos) and I had been relying on the stills analysis at Survivor Sucks... and then the episode aired that it turned out everyone was wearing different colours. That was awesome.

Sucks is a GREAT site, as long as you can take how harsh some of the posters are there. :lol: If you haven't checked out MESS Hall there yet, definitely check it out. The people in there are amazing and do lots of great analysis!! (I'm a member there!! :D)

[Zelkiiro]

For God's sake, not another Survivor...I'm surprised people actually believe that it's real...seriously...

Why don't they just let this crapfest DIE? I'll tell you why: because people are stupid.

[HannahStarr]

For God's sake, not another Survivor...I'm surprised people actually believe that it's real...seriously...

Why don't they just let this crapfest DIE? I'll tell you why: because people are stupid.

Everyone has their own opinions, Zelkiiro. You obviously don't like Survivor, but a lot of people do. Let's be respectful of the fans of Survivor, okay? :)

[Angora]

...because people are stupid.

:rotfl: Clearly you've put a lot of thought into this analysis.

Zelkiiro: Why don't you cancel your most popular show?
Network Executive: Because people are stupid.

Now we know.

[i luv hobbits]

i can't wait im sooo excited luv survior absolutely adore it!!!! i dont care wat u alls say i luv it!!!!!!!!! :p

[Angora]

I'm just watching the getting-to-know-you videos on the CBS site. So... because we have nothing to talk about yet, first impressions:

Ami: I'm annoyed by anyone who gives the speach about how she has to be true to herself rather than trying to actually win the game she signed up to play. Why do people do that? If you don't agree with the game, don't play it. You don't have to.

I'm not sure what I thought of The Man Named Brady. He didn't seem to know how many games of Survivor have been played. And his dog story was weird. And I like how they sort of cut him off while he was telling it. I get the feeling it went on for a while.

Brook is trying to be the new Rob. But he ain't no Rob. I'm pretty sure he'll get in a fight with somebody right away.

I like Chad. For no other reason than that he did the sarcastic finger quotes when he said his leg was a "secret". And he seemed more relaxed.

Chris is abrasive, but has enough self awareness to know he's abrasive and that he might not want to be. That could be useful. And I think his abrasiveness might get overshaddowed by Brook's abrasiveness, anyway. Hmmm....

I'm not sure about Dolly. She sort of seems like a hybrid between Heidi and Neleh. But not as much as I thought she would be. No matter what she says about staying quiet, I still think she'll become mortal enemies with someone right away.

Eliza already annoys me.

John K is the new Rob C, and I don't think it'll work out any better for him than it did for Rob C. According to him, he's going to win because he wants to. Good planning.

And John P obviously doesn't know how sleezy his smile looks. I predict that he's going to be really, really shocked and upset when he gets booted. And that will be funny. Like that one guy whose name I don't remember who cried because he had thought up until then that everyone else wanted him to win. From the season with Zoe. Whichever one that was.

I like Julie okay.

Lea's another one who says he won't lie. And another one who says he'll restrain himself from getting up in everyone's face... which will turn out to be a lie. Oh. On second listen, he thinks saying "if at all possible" means he doesn't have to do stuff. Apparantly even if it's possible. It gives him a "backdoor to [his] actions". So, it's more important to not be lying in technicality than to not be lying in spirit. Nice.

I couldn't get Leann's video to play. :(

Lisa is going to hate everyone. Just mark my words.

Mia is so much the new Alicia that it's frightening. Seriously. If you haven't watched her video yet, do it.

Rory wants to "cut" people. :huh: And it doesn't sound like the "cut you from the team" kind of cut. It's more like the "cut you in the tendons" kind of cut. And he also played the "I'm doing this to support my family" card, which I think is lame.

Scout considers the process of auditioning for a game show to be an amazing journey. Yeah.

Travis doesn't want to be shady or lie, so if someone asks him to join and alliance he doesn't want to, instead of telling them, he'll make up a lie about why he doesn't want to. He and Lea should get together. When they backstab - sorry, cheststab each other, they can say, "At least he technically, sort of, didn't lie to me."

I don't know what I think about Twila. I don't think she'll last very long. But just because I've said that now, she'll stick around forever or something.

[Mafalda04]

I like surivor and all but man! its the 10th one! lol... how are they going to make it any interesting? its like the Real World on MTV.. BORING! and its been on since i was born and im 18 years old.... maybe they will have surivior with Celebraties. and not like that stupid show "Im a Celebrity get me out of here" b/c that was lame... but i wouldnt mind seeing Orlando Bloom w/o his shirt going fishing!

[GryffindorSeeker]

Cut people? That will be.... interesting. I wonder how long he'll last. He might freak people out before he can make it to the end. :huh:

[FoxyKnoxy]

My Interpretations of the 'getting to know the survivors' videos:

Ami - nice
Brady - cute, nice guy but possbly not ruthless enough
Brook - ugly, type of guy to get into a fight on the first day
Chad - amputee, ok
Chris - VERY abrasive, scrappy, coniver - probably will get into a fight with Brook :lol:
Dolly - dumb blonde who looks like Britney Spears and a type of girl would probably do better on the men's side than on the ladies side
Eliza - stuck up
John K - cute, MECHANICAL BULL OPERATOR :rotfl: But has never watched survivor before! - he'll be in for a shock!
John P - Didn't like him, stupid 3M strategy
Julie - nice
Lea - Hate the hair! Can't lie thus won't win!
Leann - My favorite From The Female Tribe! She has the same attitudes as me!
Lisa - seems too much like a mom
Mia - got the right idea that it is just a game but will she stick with that notion?
Rory - nice guy but will him being the only black person on the show go against him?
Scout - won't relate to the younger girls and will be the first to go
Travis - PROFESSIONAL WRESTLER!!! Family guy but a wierdo
Twila - said 'she needs to learn to lie' thus won't win

[Boston_Rob_Rox]

I have to just say something about Lill here. She is VERY different from how she was EDITED on the show. She did seem whiny on the show a bit, and like she frowned a lot, but I've had the pleasure of talking with Lill several times, and we email regularly, and she is a WONDERFUL woman. She is very kind, and is able to see the good in almost anyone. She's very, very kind. It is really easy for us to judge how someone is portrayed on a tv show, but what we have to remember is we are only seeing less than ONE hour per week, for any given 3 day period on this show. A lot goes on that isn't shown, because it isn't as exciting television, and the editing is part of what makes Survivor so great, but it doesn't always give us a realistic view of the contestants.
I agree that editing is very powerful(i love to talk about the power of editing) example 1.a Rupert. I based my opinion more on the testimonials of fromer survivors(Darrah saying on an interview that lil judged her before getting to know her) than i did because of editing on the show.
Rupert was great at the beginning with the shoe thing, but then they started shoving him down our throats and i got sick of him.
Anyways, looking forward to Vanuatu and the Apprentice 2. Thursday nights are loaded!! I just hope there are no more "super sized" Apprentices because I always missed the first 15 minutes becuase it overlapped with Survivor.

[atherella]

Bumping for tonight!!! Hooray!!! :D

[Malice]

^I wanted to do that. I'll reserve this spot and edit it once I've seen the show. You can edit posts, can't you? Ican'twaitIcan'twaitIcan'twaitIcan'twaitIcan'twait *breathes* Ican'twait :P

[GryffindorSeeker]

*whoop* I'm couting the hours (not that that's really hard right now) :whistle:

[RubberSoul]

Survivor starts in 20 minutes for me! I'm so excited. Never mind that O.C. Obsess Completely special that's on at the same time, Survivor wins any day.

[Spew Member]

Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

[HannahStarr]

YAY! w0000t! Only 20 minutes! :D :lol:

[Zelkiiro]

Yay...another sad attempt to rob an hour from many a viewer...

Personally, I could find a myriad of things I'd rather be doing than watching Survivor, such as...biting my fingers off...

[HannahStarr]

Yay...another sad attempt to rob an hour from many a viewer...

Personally, I could find a myriad of things I'd rather be doing than watching Survivor, such as...biting my fingers off...

Well, you do that then. :p
Meanwhile, if you don't mind, us avid fans shall discuss the first episode. :D

So now that the first episode has aired, what do you guys think? Anyone have a favorite Survivor yet? Least favorite? Favorite tribe?

I think I like the female tribe much better than the male tribe (sorry - can't remember the tribe names :lol:). There seem to be a *lot* of hard workers in the group. Most of the guys annoy me, except Chris, Bubba, and the drill sergeant dude. I'm sorry Brooke was voted out only because he looked as if he wasn't expecting it. Rory - is that his name? - probably won't stick around much longer. It doesn't seem as if many people like him. :shrug:

[Angora]

Personally, I could find a myriad of things I'd rather be doing than watching Survivor, such as...biting my fingers off...

Or... trolling the Survivor thread. :p

Just finished watching it. Now they have some lame Queer Eye special on before The Apprentice.

Brook we hardly knew ye. Good.

In less spoilery news, why is it that whenever they divide the men and women, it turns out that the men are all macho jerks who hate women? Wait for Lea and his disgusted "...females" comment, if you haven't seen it yet. I hate Lea. Just for that.

Also? "I am a shepardess" is just funny. I don't know why.

I don't know what I thought of the whole opening sequence. I don't really see the point of it. And the whole, "They hate women and torture animals for no reason, but you MUST NOT PROTEST BECAUSE IT IS THEIR CULTURE" thing rubs me the wrong way. Um, not to spoil the opening sequence for you... and, even though JP was spokesman for why everyone should pretend they weren't bothered by it, he seemed a little bothered by it. So I really don't see the point of it. Oh, well.

[swi711]

my fav survivor part was when those two chicks got nude for some peanut butter haha funny stuff.. any1 got any pics of them?? i dont kno there names but i remember there pretty hott

[HannahStarr]

my fav survivor part was when those two chicks got nude for some peanut butter haha funny stuff.. any1 got any pics of them?? i dont kno there names but i remember there pretty hott

Uhhh... that was Survivor: The Amazon. Jenna and Heidi did that. You can probably find pics anywhere on the net, because that was a pretty popular moment in reality TV history...

Now, I'm curious about the guy with the prosthetic leg. Chad, I think? Do you guys think he's going to be seen as a threat, or as being weak?

[RubberSoul]

Now, I'm curious about the guy with the prosthetic leg. Chad, I think? Do you guys think he's going to be seen as a threat, or as being weak?
Ha...as someone whose-name-is-forgotten said; "the mechanical leg guy is going to win!" But Chad seemed pretty limbre, so I don't see how the prosthetic leg should be a huge problem unless he gets mud or sand in it (maybe? I don't really know how those work).

Ok now, Eliza is sooo freaking ANNOYING! Someone vote her out now! And Dolly is suprisingly not as irksome as you're led to believe (especially by her scary resemblance to Holly from Big Brother).

And about the first scene...I kind of liked it because it wasn't as corny as usual, and gave an idea of what the culture in Vanuatu is really like. I can see how the pig would gross some people out, but it's not as though they mass kill wild pigs; it's a tradition that's been going on for hundreds of years. They don't build huge sprawling cities and contribute to air pollution and take advantage of every single natural resource and animal species and exploit them to death, so I think it's ok for them to take this one thing from nature.

[MMELevrier]

I can't wait to hear what PETA makes of the initiation scene...how dare those former cannibals kill an animal for food! (Maybe I should make that pink or red or something for sarcasm.)

At least this time, participants took the time beforehand to learn: a) to swim (I think that was Brooke, might have been the unbalanced Chris, one of the thirty-something heavier guys in an orange shirt, they both looked pretty much the same to me) and b) to make a fire, though it appears that whoever taught Brady stopped before the actual flames happened. Because, uh, Brady, you use the fine fibers of the tinder on TOP of the ember and blow air on it. Then you get the fire. When Chad revealed his prosthetic leg, I was waiting for one of the men to say, "Dude, that's cool and all, but unless can start a fire with that, we don't really need to know about it right now."

The women, on the other hand, HAD to win because none of them have glasses this time. I swear the next sunny day I'm going to find out if I can start a fire with my plastic lenses. I keep forgetting on the sunny weekends, we've got so much yard work to get through.

And just what are they going to eat? They (with the exception of the sheep farmer from PA) seem pretty clueless about where food actually comes from...and I'm pretty sure SHE isn't up on tropical edible plants.

All in all, though, a good start to my favorite reality show. I wonder if there are sharks offshore. Because I think by the end of a week, they're going to be ready to toss Eliza to them.

[LuvHP_001]

More reality T.V. shows? :sigh: :sigh:

How many seasons of survivor can you have? And how many people of those who play deserve to get 1 million dollars when it could go to charity. Money goes to waste these days.

[Spew Member]

More reality T.V. shows? :sigh: :sigh:

How many seasons of survivor can you have? And how many people of those who play deserve to get 1 million dollars when it could go to charity. Money goes to waste these days.

:wow: Blasphemy! :wow:

The women got off pretty easy in the beginning didn't they? I've decided I like the shepherdess, because she is a shepherdess!

The ritual rock that they won didn't seem to matter much did it? :huh:

[FoxyKnoxy]

You know I thought I was going to hate Dolly because she looks like Holly off of BB5 but To my surprise, I am liking her more and more after that initiation scene. I also am liking Twila the hard working one who is building the shelter for the other prissy ladies. :tu: I was so hoping the girls would have lost then as to see one of the 'sorority girls' being kicked out on day one. Already I can't stand those slackers! :grumble: They were bathing while the others were trying to build an important shelter for survival! What morons! I hope they are voted out soon!

As for the men. I think Rory may be going next as he can't seem to keep his opinions to himself. Brady :love: I like but I think he has already stirred up some trouble for himself by placing a vote for Rory. And I must say that John P. is darn cute! :drool: Hopefully after Brook being voted off will be a wake up call for him and to get his head into the game instead of focusing on only getting rid of weak players! The strong must be vanquished before the weak may rule the day!!!

[Spew Member]

The sorority girls were being ridiculous by not building the shelter! I liked Twila, lets hope that the weaker girls are as smart as the weaker men! ;)

[Bee]

That spiritual tribal rock thing has got to come in SOMEWHERE...
I'm already liking the womens tribe better. It seems like everyone on the mens is boring and one-dimensional. Granted, it is the first show. I can't believe some of the women wanted to lay down and find the camp in the morning though... blech.
The pig: just to make for good TV, the producers should've arranged for someone to freak out and stop the killing and have to be dragged off the island by Jeff Probst. Wouldn't that have been excellent?
Chad, the amputee teacher... even though I know full well that he can do anything with his prosthetic leg (he walked hours to find the campsite, swam, and everything else) I know seem to find myself worried about him. When they were going through the mud pit and there was mud all over his leg I winced and actually said to my brother, "oh, I hope he's alright! I hope his leg can handle that!". I can't tell if the leg will be a blessing or a curse (game-wise) just yet.
And OUCH about Brooke... that was a total blindsiding... I didn't even think for a second Chris (and ?Lea?) would be able to get that anti-Brooke alliance going, but they did. Kudos to them, pity to poor Brooke.
Speaking of Lea, was he the one who went "I though we'd be able to beat a group of... of FEMALES!"? Yeah, he's not going to be a fan favourite. What a d***.

[agpotter]

Okay, just finished watching the season premiere on tape (I have class on Thursday nights... dergh). Anyway, let me just say to Boston Rob Rox... I'm sorry, but I really can't take any of your views on players seriously (and Lil was a fine addition to the Survivor alum), first of all considering that they've been around for one episode only, and ESPECIALLY considering your obvious fandom of the arrogant, deceitful, back-stabbing, gutless and all-around wretched Boston Rob. Honestly, I considered not watching anymore when he made it to the Final Four of All-Stars. He is a perfect example of what kind of person does NOT deserve to win Survivor...

Having said that tirade, I wish Chris had gotten the boot tonight, not really because he lost the guys the challenged, but because he's ignorant and obnoxious (he bashes all his teammates because he thinks they're unintelligent, but, uh, he can hardly string two words together...). Brook was a good second choice though, because he was a bit pervey and I was glad to see him go. I'm pretty much rooting for the girls at this point, even though I'm kind of put out that they put the tribes together based on sex... It was interesting in the Amazon, but here it's repetitive... Besides, boys and girls do stupid things when they're with others of the same gender. But, I'm for the girls mostly because the guys unwaveringly get cocky and annoying, so it's good to see them taken down (and I don't think I'm being a traitor to my sex). I'm not sure who I'm rooting for at the moment, I'm just glad the girls won at the start.

About Rory, considering what someone said earlier about race coming into play, I think if he gets voted off, it'll be because he's annoying and a whiner, but guaranteed, he'll blame it on race. He's pointed out I don't know how many times already that he's the only black contestant. We get it Rory, you're making yourself stand out even more. I'm just glad there's no Johnny Fairplay or Ron Cesternino to irritate me to no end this season.

Frankly, I was rather disappointed with the All-Stars season (and pretty much every season after the best, Marquesas, and I guess Pearl Islands was all right...), so we'll see how Vanuatu fares.

[Angora]

I can't wait to hear what PETA makes of the initiation scene...how dare those former cannibals kill an animal for food! (Maybe I should make that pink or red or something for sarcasm.)

See, I wouldn't have minded so much if they just hunted the pig down and killed it for food. But instead they opted to capture it, tie it up, hang it upside down for I don't even know how long, and then kill it apparently for the purpose of smearing its blood all over people (which, you know, reason 700 why I would never go on this show). That's got to be painful and unpleasant for the pig, and I don't see any point in causing it to suffer that way. If you have to kill it in order to live, I can go along with that, but you don't have to torture it first.

Speaking of Lea, was he the one who went "I though we'd be able to beat a group of... of FEMALES!"?

Yes, indeed, it was. Isn't he swell?

I do wonder if they guys were chosen because they're macho jerks or if they've become that way because the tribes were split into men vs women. I sort of wonder if it's a perverse way of building group unity, for everyone to act like a chauvinist.

[atherella]

Hooray for a new season of Survivor!!

As for Chad -- I do think he's going to run into some trouble because of his leg a bit further down the line. I don't think he'll get the boot because anybody feels he is physically unable to keep up, but I feel that people will not want to face him on the jury because A. he seems like a nice guy and B. the sympathy factor. No one wants to face a nice person who also happens to have a physical handicap -- even if he doesn't treat it as a handicap himself. So, what to do about it? Vote him off and eliminate the threat. I don't think he'll get voted off immediately, because no one is going to want to be accused of treating him unfairly because he has a handicap. It's almost reverse discrimination in a way -- they'll go out of their way to treat him well in the beginning to show that they aren't prejudiced, yet in the end, the decision to get rid of him will very will take into account that same handicap. (this is all my opinion of how it will play out, although I know it could very well be wrong)

I have to admit, listening to all those guys talk about 'being beaten by all them girls' was really annoying. Didn't they learn anything from the Amazon? It doesn't matter if someone is a female. I know a large part of that was editing, but they way they show it had me gagging in disgust at times. Especially when Lea made his comment. :rolleyes:

If I were there last night, I'd have voted off Chris in a heartbeat. Sure, the game isn't all about balance, but the fact is, a lot of the physical challenges involve elements where balance is essential. It is so ridiculous to eliminate the strongest members of a tribe so early on when you should be focused on winning challenges early and avoiding tribal council. Chris showed last night that he was not able to handle balance aspects of challenges, and even admitted to it himself. I think you are shooting yourself in the foot to eliminate strenth at the very first tribal council. That's exactly the mistake Lex made last season and look how well it worked out for him. :huh:

[agpotter]

I don't think they slaughtered the pig just for fun, I think there was a definite point to it. It's has spiritual significance, and I think it's a cultural thing, I don't think it's fair to chastise them for treating the pig "inhumanely." It was definitely NOT pointless.

[Angora]

I don't think it's fair to chastise them for treating the pig "inhumanely."

I do.

ETA: I'm also not sure how much of a "genuine" ritual this was, either. I'm not saying it definitely wasn't but the whole set-up seems dodgy to me. It seems like the producers went to someone and said, "Hey, is there a ritual you can do to freak out our contestants?" and they said, "Well, we have this one for celebrating ____" and they said "Okay, that'll do." 'Cause, a) they seemed quite rehearsed at doing it - particularly the stuff on the beach, and b) I can't imagine that everyone who comes to the islands has to sit through that first.

I know that Vanuatu has "genuinely primative peoples" (in the words of their website), but I'm quite skeptical about whether these were them. And if they were, to what degree this sort of ritualistic behaviour would factor into their present day-to-day lives. I would be more inclined to think that it's an historical thing that they do every now and then for tourists (they seem big on tourism there, from what I can see) than that it's a ritual they're dead set on observing for "spiritual" reasons. I could be totally wrong, but, if I am, I don't understand why they would let a reality show on their island in the first place. So, like I said, it just seems dodgy. I'm sticking with "pointless".

[Bee]

I thought the whole ritual was kinda cool and a unique Survivor thing. Letting someone besides Jeff take over was something new. The pig... I think the producers expected someone to be really opposed... but nobody was. I guess nobody wanted to leave early, eh? I feel bad for the wee little piggy though... I hope they ate him after.

[GryffindorSeeker]

The first survivor!!! Why is it that the men can never get across the balance beams?

[agpotter]

Meh. I think if we do some research, we'll probably find that the ritual actually does have some ethnic backing, even if the incident on the island was dramatized and staged. I don't think they were implying that everyone who comes to the island gets that treatment, I think they were saying it's just one of the rituals they perform (it could be initiation for male warriors, a pre-hunt rite, any number of things).

Either way, it's a misnomer to say that animals were treated inhumanely, especially since, well, they're not human.

[Angora]

Either way, it's a misnomer to say that animals were treated inhumanely, especially since, well, they're not human.

"Inhumane" just means "lacking pity or compassion."

[atherella]

I have some great links giving some background information on Vanuatu and their customs and rituals if anyone is interested I'd be glad to post them.

While the pig slaughtering may have seemed cruel to us or inhumane, it is part of their culture, and unless we live there and are part of their system of beliefs, it really isn't fair to judge. We don't have to like it, but we should respect their culture regardless. Variety is the spice of life, and all that stuff. I blocked my eyes when they did the slaughter, simply because it was nothing I wanted to observe, but I didn't think it was disgusting or morally wrong. Like it was said on the show, the people of Vanuatu actually hold them in high regard.

[atherella]

Ok so it's me again.

Here are the teasers for tomorrow's episode. (I know who the boot is if anyone is interested - owl me).

*A tribe deals with very grim conditions as one castaway has a tearful meltdown after finding maggots in the tribe's food.

*A wild chicken wanders into the Yasur camp and sends the hungry tribe into a frenzy as they try to catch the chicken with a machete.

*One Survivor tries to take advantage of tensions between two tribemates after a loss at the Reward Challenge.

*Two castaways think they are the swing vote, leading to a very unpredictable Tribal Council.

[Kaonashi]

I"m not liking Eliza at all.

Not sayng who got voted off, but I will say that it's quite sutpid to let yourself be known in camp as the "swing vote." It's even stupider to even be known as that.

If the sorotity girls actually got up and did some actual work, I just might die of shock.

[atherella]

I can't stand Eliza either. Blah. I won't say who got voted off either, so I guess I won't say anything else just yet until tomorrow. :D

[Angora]

Um... everyone's seen it now, right?

I don't think the guys really had a chance at the reward challenge. If for no other reason that that they're bigger than the girls, so it would have been more difficult to squeeze along the beam. Unless they got a bigger beam. I liked that one guy near the end of the line, whose name I don't remember, who kept letting all his tribe mates fall in the water rather than give them a hug while they shuffled by. Even though it wasn't super fair, it cracked me up because they obviously hated doing it so much.

I think the guys picked the best possible person to be their caller during the immunity challenge. Even though my first thought was to pick Scout for the girls too (because then you don't have her smashing her bad knee or anything), I realized that would be a bad idea before they started to play. They should have gone with Twila (sp?) instead, I think. It's hard to pick what my favorite part of that challenge was, because I LOVE the challenges where everyone has to run around blindfolded (although nothing will ever be as good as Lex running around with his arms out in front of him, sinking closer and closer to the ground).... but I liked the "Okay. One. Two. Three. SCOUT!!!" part and the "Stick your hands out in front of you because you never - OW!" part and the part where that one girl smashed into the puzzle pieces and fell down and hurt herself and Jeff made an "owch" face and then there was this pause and then Scout went "Okay. There it is." That was awesome editing right there.

And I liked how Dolly jinxed herself by saying she was the swing vote and that it all came down to her. But even more than that, I liked Eliza's reaction when they told her someone was planning to vote her off: "I don't like that. I don't like that AT ALL!" I like it because I hate Eliza.

[atherella]

I loved tribal council. I knew Dolly was going to be the boot, but it was still tons of fun to watch. Mia's facial expressions were priceless!!! :lol:

I definitely agree the females had an advantage on the RC, being more petite and probably a bit more flexible, although I'm not suggesting males can't be flexible. They really kicked butt in that challenge. JP looked pretty devastated sitting all alone on his raft. I was waiting to see if Chris would be able to make it across (knowing his balance isn't the best), but I don't even recall him getting a shot to go.

I can't wait for next week's episode to see the repurcussions of Eliza's vote. Knowing that one person from each tribe goes next week will be interesting. She must be NERVOUS at this point in the game. Will the young girls accept her back in, or not trust her now that she turned on them. If she sticks with the older females she will definitely have a better chance of sticking around as they'd then have the majority. If she is able to talk her way back in with the younger girls, maybe we'll see our first tie breaker since the purple rock!! (I actually wouldn't mind seeing her go, she's the most irritating of the group, IMO.)

[MMELevrier]

If she sticks with the older females she will definitely have a better chance of sticking around as they'd then have the majority. If she is able to talk her way back in with the younger girls, maybe we'll see our first tie breaker since the purple rock!! (I actually wouldn't mind seeing her go, she's the most irritating of the group, IMO.)


Eliza is by far the most irritating of them all, with Rory a close second. She's my vote to be the first human sacrifice on Survivor :evil: .

Twila is looking to be the female counterpart to Rupert; her comment about "if they want pampering, they should go back to the Holiday Inn" was PRICELESS! And when they found all the eggs, I bet my husband that at least one of them had a semi-developed embryo in it. Didn't show that though...there is nothing worse than cracking open a rotten egg.

[HannahStarr]

I was slightly disappointed when Dolly was voted out, because I did like her; however, saying that you're the swing vote during Tribal Council isn't exactly the smartest thing to do.

Twila struck me as the type of person who is very critical of younger women in general - she never seems to have anything nice to say about anyone except Scout and Leanne.

The RC was funny, mainly because I knew it would be a repeat of the last IC. Was looking forward to seeing Chris try to make it across, but I don't think they made it that far. :lol: The IC was funny too. :D

[RubberSoul]

But even more than that, I liked Eliza's reaction when they told her someone was planning to vote her off: "I don't like that. I don't like that AT ALL!" I like it because I hate Eliza.
Yes! That was hilarious! I mean, way to state the obvious, Eliza. And as a sidenote: is it just me, or does she look a bit like a skeleton? It's just that her eyes are really hollow.

I actually really liked Dolly since she was the only one of the sorority girls who seemed to be able to identify with the older ladies as well. She didn't seem as immature as some of the others, and she had a nice t-shirt (though that doesn't have anything to do with it.

I liked seeing the women work together to get the plantains off the tree early in the episode; it was pretty awesome. For the most part, I think the women work really well together (even the younger ones, when they bother) and are really supportive of each other.

And of course that huge confrontation between (maybe?) Brady and one of the older guys about him not trusting Brady because he was younger and good-looking, and then the fact that he didn't have any kids was thrown into the mix. That was THE closest thing to a catfight I've seen between guys before.

And now a question: In the opening credits, there's this man shown when they're finished doing all the players that looks extraordinarly like Rupert. And I heard something about how he would be involved in the show this season in some way. Is this guy Rupert by any chance, or am I just crazy? :shrug:

[OrlisGrape]

And now a question: In the opening credits, there's this man shown when they're finished doing all the players that looks extraordinarly like Rupert. And I heard something about how he would be involved in the show this season in some way. Is this guy Rupert by any chance, or am I just crazy? :shrug:

I noticed that too, and was wondering the same question!

[Angora]

Twila struck me as the type of person who is very critical of younger women in general - she never seems to have anything nice to say about anyone except Scout and Leanne.

I got that impression too. She seems to be overstating her point a little by complaining so much about what she thinks they think.

[MMELevrier]

I think the Rupert-like man in the opening credits is one of the natives from the "ceremony" last week :rotfl: !

Do you think the women made a note of where the eggs were so they can go back and get more? I wonder if you dry the plantains, then grind them, will it make a sort of flour? And why isn't anyone trying to fish? And has either tribe actually made any shelter yet? I don't remember seeing any, but I did miss a bit when I cleaned up the kitchen.

I do have to give credit to the men for ALMOST starting a fire.

[Angora]

I do have to give credit to the men for ALMOST starting a fire.

Speaking of which, they sure are desperate to give the tribes flint this season, aren't they? They gave it to the girls at the first challenge, so, that's like, day three or something. And then for the guys they start this whole "From now on if you ever win anything, we'll chuck the flint in too!!" thing.

[Bee]

nothing will ever be as good as Lex running around with his arms out in front of him
Oh, my god. I think I actually peed myself when I saw that episode. It was absolutely hysterical. Hah. I really don't like Scout much. I don't hate Eliza, though.

Reward challenge: that was like a giveaway to the girls. Although the men groping each other was quite excellent.

[atherella]

Oh, my god. I think I actually peed myself when I saw that episode. It was absolutely hysterical. Hah. I really don't like Scout much. I don't hate Eliza, though.

Reward challenge: that was like a giveaway to the girls. Although the men groping each other was quite excellent.

Actually, if the men had a thought a bit, they could have come out ahead in the RC last week. Remember last season on the beam challenge (think the Sue and Rich incident) and Rob M was really whooping butt and all the people jumped off the beam when they saw him coming to allow him to pass, since he was doing most of the work? Well, same principle would've worked out here. As the man that was the one doing the passing on the beam approached, the person he would've had to pass could've jumped off into the water... repeat per each person the crosser approaches. Jeff didn't say they couldn't do that, actually he said if you fall in you have to go to start and begin again. Nothing about if the one that was being passed 'fell' in. Would've gave the men a clear pass and a time advantage. :huh:

[agpotter]

Just to throw in my two cents... I was rather disappointed that Dolly was ousted. She deserved it far less than a couple other girls. She was a little dumb, though, to flap around that she was the swing vote and thereby had so much power (don't these contestants ever watch the show before going on?? You could learn a little bit about what to do and what NOT to do...). I was starting to like her (hardly mentioning that she was probably one of the cutest girls on Survivor to date). Still, I thought that anyone else deserved to be voted off more than her.

Also, I'm not really liking Eliza either. What a diva. There's at least one in every season, but it seems this season has several.

[atherella]

Just to throw in my two cents... I was rather disappointed that Dolly was ousted. She deserved it far less than a couple other girls. She was a little dumb, though, to flap around that she was the swing vote and thereby had so much power (don't these contestants ever watch the show before going on?? You could learn a little bit about what to do and what NOT to do...). I was starting to like her (hardly mentioning that she was probably one of the cutest girls on Survivor to date). Still, I thought that anyone else deserved to be voted off more than her.

Also, I'm not really liking Eliza either. What a diva. There's at least one in every season, but it seems this season has several.


I agree totally about Eliza, although, she wasn't as annoying last episode, and to be honest, I gained respect for her game playing ability by turning on Dolly. She showed that she knows the game and is out to protect herself. I still don't like her, but I like that she is there to PLAY the game. She knew Dolly was a risk and wasn't taking any chances on being ousted. Unfortunately for those whom she annoys, it looks like now that she has switched alliances (at least for the time being), she's safe for a bit.

As for Dolly getting the boot, it was entirely her fault, IMO. She was totally safe until she showed how she was too indecisive and kept flip flopping sides. We've always seen people fly under the radar and that gets annoying, but she did the opposite and it cost her...she was OVER the radar, flaunting that she was the swing vote (even prior to TC). IF she had kept her mouth shut and stuck with the Eliza vote, or the Leanne vote, she'd still be there. Her own indecisiveness did her in. She was just too sweet and nice for this game, unfortunately.

[LooNy_LuVgood]

Actually, if the men had a thought a bit, they could have come out ahead in the RC last week. Remember last season on the beam challenge (think the Sue and Rich incident) and Rob M was really whooping butt and all the people jumped off the beam when they saw him coming to allow him to pass, since he was doing most of the work? Well, same principle would've worked out here. As the man that was the one doing the passing on the beam approached, the person he would've had to pass could've jumped off into the water... repeat per each person the crosser approaches. Jeff didn't say they couldn't do that, actually he said if you fall in you have to go to start and begin again. Nothing about if the one that was being passed 'fell' in. Would've gave the men a clear pass and a time advantage. :huh:

Oooh, good thinking! Now it seems like what they were doing was so stupid!

Did anyone hear Dolly talking after she got voted out, you know while the credits are rolling? She said something like " I'm just a simple farm girl, and I guess I just belong on the farm." Like I said probably not close to the exact quote, but what she said made me crack up!! :rotfl:

[RubberSoul]

Did anyone hear Dolly talking after she got voted out, you know while the credits are rolling? She said something like " I'm just a simple farm girl, and I guess I just belong on the farm." Like I said probably not close to the exact quote, but what she said made me crack up!! :rotfl:

I remember that...it was pretty cute, actually. Kind of sad that she thinks that (though maybe it's true) since there've probably been stupider Survivor players than her who've gone further in the game up to date.

[Wairay]

Go Rupert....

[FizzingWhizbee]

I actually really liked Dolly since she was the only one of the sorority girls who seemed to be able to identify with the older ladies as well. She didn't seem as immature as some of the others, and she had a nice t-shirt (though that doesn't have anything to do with it.

Haha. I thought Dolly's shirt choice was a little unpractical - why did she need that off-the-shoulder look when climbing through the jungle or competing in an intense physical challenge?

Anyways. I think Twila is a little creepy. She kind of reminds me of Freakshow from Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. Probably no one saw that movie, but she just slightly reminds me of that character. Although she does have a good work-ethic.

Rory gets on my nerves - he was totally overreacting about the girl's victory dance! The guys practically did the same thing when they won immunity. :rolleyes:

[FoxyKnoxy]

Has anyone seen the preview of this Thursdays Survivor? It looks great.
There will be two people cast off, a bunch of twists in the first 15 minutes of the show, the immunity idol is now for individuals only and someone (I think one of the girls) is going to betray someone? It sounds to be a a very interesting show. I am thinking the twist may have to with switching tribes.

I think out of all the survivors, Rory is the most anoying to me. :td: Twila I like a lot and Brady :love:

[Malice]

I posted a long time ago that I was going to give the show a review, but I've been too busy to log in lately. :blush: I think voting Dolly off was the right thing. Not because I hate her, it was just right for the tribe. I could see her betraying anyone and everyone if she had stayed on and had the chance to. As with Amazon, there are a group of whiny girls that I would love to bop on the head, and most of the guys seem like cocky (can I say that here?) idiots. This week's episode looks interesting. ;)

[RubberSoul]

I am thinking the twist may have to with switching tribes.
They probably won't do that that early on. I'd love to see the tribes having to vote out a member of the other tribe based on first appearances - that'd be kind of interesting.

I'm wondering what those "twists" in the first 15 minutes of the show will be. It's probably something...not as exciting as we could hope it to be. When you need to advertise a twist with such desperation, you're obviously losing ideas. Then again, it could be something astounding, so...we'll see.

[atherella]

I'm pretty sure that the twist is going to be the individual immunity offered, with one of the females going over to the men's tribe.

I think the challenge will go something like this. A part challenge.

The first part of the challenge will be tribal. Men vs. women with the winning tribe taking reward. After that the tribe that wins (my guess is the men based on vidcap analysis) will all compete against each other with the losing tribe watching. Whoever wins the second leg of the race wins Individual immunity (and possibly the chance to offer a second immunity to someone else.) I don't know if a player will switch tribes this week, but if not, definitely next week.

Then the 2 tribal councils. I'm thinking Mia for the women. The younger group is in trouble, and Mia seems to be the one with the biggest mouth, so she's my guess.

At first for the men I was thinking that Rory would go, but I think they'll continue the pattern of getting rid of the younger, more threatening guys. WHich is stupid really. Keep the stronger ones now to win challenges and eliminate the threats later in the game. Right now it is essential to win challenges, so getting rid of strong people is not good strategy. We saw what happened to Lex and his tribe when he did the same thing. So, I think the men boot will come down to Brady or one of the two Johns. I'm guessing Brady for the immunity win, sharing with one of the Johns, and the other John takes the walk.

Any thoughts? :)

(FYI - I'm avoiding spoilers this season and concentrating on vidcap analysis, so none of what I'm saying can be constituted as a spoiler. :))

[whizbang121]

:lol: They're not really on Vanuatu ... are they?

[FoxyKnoxy]

Recap: WARNING SPOILERS AHEAD!
Post-Tribal Council fallout leaves one castaway feeling the heat (Rory) from fellow tribe members (Sarge).
At another tribe, differing work ethics and personalities lead to a clash between two castaways (Twila and Mia).
Both tribes are shocked when they gather for a Challenge (luxury for a fishing kit) and are told at the end of the day there will be a double Tribal Council. The women lose the luxury competition and lose the chance for immunity as well.

A twist at the end of the Challenge puts one castaway in a very influential position as the individual immunity winner (John Kenney) gets to give immunity necklace to someone on the other tribe (Ami). He spends the day with the girls after winning the immunity necklace and learns lots about their alliances as they seemed to fight in front of him!

Tension and politicking run rabid at both camps as several vulnerable tribe members jockey to survive. Two will leave Vanuatu...who will it be? On the Men's Tribe ~ John P. was cast off in a close yet stunning tribal council! Again the men vote out the strong competitors. On the Women's Tribe ~ Mia was let go as Lisa switched sides last minute and voted against her younger-girl alliance! They voted out the yappy girl who seemed to always pick a fight and never shut up about it (very immature!)

[Angora]

That was neat.

I thought John was really smart about the immunity thing, giving it to the person least likely to be voted off and making it perfectly clear that he was doing it for that reason, so that no matter what happened, the girls wouldn't be mad at him during the merge. The stuff he spouted off about them needing to learn something about themselves and grow as a tribe or whatever was kind of dumb, though.

When the votes came in, I originally thought Lisa was going to play it like Eliza was the one to vote for Mia, but from the previews it looks like she isn't.

I'm glad JP and his scary salesman smile are gone.

Because I'm slow or something, I've only just noticed that Chris looks like Meatloaf (http://www.qgm.com/meatloaf/gallery/mandp1.gif).

I liked the part where Jeff anounced that they were having two eliminations and Eliza indignantly whined "Nooo!" I hate Eliza so much. I also really liked the part where she wouldn't stop chattering at John and eventually he just stood up and walked away from her... and she followed him and kept chattering.

[HannahStarr]

Ha! I LOVED last night's episode! Was so glad to see JP and Mia gone. :D

John surprised me by showing how smart he actually is. It was really neat of him to split up the tribe like that. I like him a lot better now - originally I thought he was just a "pretty boy."

The male tribe is confusing me... why are they trying to vote out their strongest players?? Shouldn't they wait until AFTER the merge to do that??

Mia got her wish when she said that she didn't want to see Twila another day when she voted for her. :lol: I thought that was very ironic.

[Spew Member]

I'm sad! They've already kicked off the the three I liked the most! I was hoping JP and Mia would make it. (I realize I may be the only one here who thinks that way. :elaugh:)

[beckyboo338]

I don't like twila or scout. Scout is like blind or something and she is waaay too old. Twila is just mean and she should have been voted out, not Mia. I don't like twila at ALL! As for brady, I hope he does well, but he is strong and young and they are getting picked off, so there is not much hope for him.

[Spew Member]

I don't like Twila either, and Scout has lost them practically every challenge. They need to get smart and not kick off all of their strong people (on both tribes) or they won't have anyone that can help them win the physical challenges.

[cheeze1192]

I didn't like Mia at all... she was too stuck up, every time she was voted for she rolled her eyes, and every time Twila got a vote she smirked. Eliza bugs me also... she talks WAY WAY to much.
John was smart giving it to Ami, she was like the only one who wasn't yelling in front of him, she seemed confident also.
I wonder if we'll hear more about Julie... she seems so inconspicuous.

[Spew Member]

Which one was Julie? I don't like Eliza either, and her reasoning for voting Dolly off was wierd. I think my favorite now is the guy that only has one leg. I don't know his name yet though. :shrug:

[cheeze1192]

Julie is the youth mentor, she's got slightly droopy eyes, and black hair.

Chad has the one leg... he's such an inspriration, lol.

[Spew Member]

Chad almost won that challenge! I hope he makes it far. Is Julie the one that voted for Mia out of all of the younger girls? They just can't get their act together.

[MMELevrier]

I love Twila...and I don't think Scout is as old as I am! Mia...last night Mia took Eliza's place as the castaway I most want to throw into the volcano.

I like Scout too, but why in the name of all that's holy is SHE throwing the grappling hook? The women did NOT work together as a team, that's why the men killed in the competition, and the teamwork was all Sarge's doing. And I though John K was just a pretty boy too, but he impressed me with his grasp of the psychology involved. As much as I LOVE seeing the oldsters pick off the young'uns (at my age, that doesn't seem to happen much!), I don't want Brady to go. If my husband can drool over the women, I want someone to drool over too!

[Wairay]

Survivor is getting a little tad boring - I prefer the Amazing Race....

[agpotter]

Boring? Nah, it's just getting good! I personally think there hasn't been a really satisfying season since Marquesas (Season 4, which wasn't even COMPLETELY satisfying... Neleh should totally have beat out Vecepia).

As for this week's episode, I'm kind of disappointed that John's out. I was just starting to like him, and he REALLY shouldn't have been ousted before a few others (Chris and Rory are driving me CRAZY... Chris is dumb as a brick and meanwhile thinks everyone around him are idiots, and Rory is whiny and obnoxious, and while Sarge was annoying about it, he had a point. Anyone could pick oranges for heaven's sake). I have to say that I actually like Twila, so I'm pretty glad she wasn't the one to go (especially since Mia is childish and self-absorbed... Buh-bye), but I think Ami had a really great point. Twila may be a tom-boy but she can definitely try to make friends with the girls. She's probably never had to be around all girls before. She better learn to make friends with them, or her attempt at compensation by being the hardest worker (or martyr, as Mia so eloquently put it) will only take her so far.

Bottom line, I'm glad Mia's out, kind of sad John's gone. I agree... Why, oh WHY are the boys voting out their strongest players at the start of the game? Gosh, we boys are dumb (not that the girl tribe is doing all that better.... :))

[silvercJD4]

Ugh, I'm really not liking this Survivor very much...I don't think the people are very colorful, and I think the drama is getting on my nerves. I'm not even sure I'll watch this one all the way through. There's a lot more that I could be doing for an hour. I miss the All-Stars...

[agpotter]

Eurgh, I don't miss the All-Stars. I thought that was a very disappointing season. I knew at one point they had to do a best-of-the-best season, and I was not at all satisfied with how it turned out (Amber and Rob didn't deserve to be in the Top 4, let alone first and second place).

[HannahStarr]

(Psssst... can we get back on topic? There's another thread for discussing All-Stars. :) )

I like Twila. However, I don't think she's going to get much farther because she doesn't connect with anyone (except Scout) at all. Nobody really seems to like her.

Speaking of Scout, why-oh-why was she the one trying to get the keys during the challenge last episode?? Someone else should have been doing that, not her. The female tribe never seems to be able to work together.

[agpotter]

True. Why is that? Why don't they plan the challenges through a little better? And why have the oldest woman (who can hardly see without her glasses, probably) be the scout (forgive the pun) when trying to lead them blindly to puzzle pieces? One of these days they'll quit bickering back at camp and get their act together, and then the boys will lose, instead of winning merely by default (since they've rarely one because they deserved it, and mostly just because someone had to win, and the girls were taking their sweet time).

I just like to see the girls win. Take the cockiness edge off the boys...

[Angora]

Yeah, I don't really get why they keep picking Scout to do pivotal things. Maybe she volunteers herself and they're all glad they don't have to be responsible for anything?

I liked that someone pointed out at tribal that Twila isn't making a big effort to bridge the gap either. 'Cause I don't like it, personally, when women use the "I'm a tomboy" thing as an excuse not to make an effort to get along with other women. Although the whole weird "Let me braid your hair RIGHT NOW!" thing was a little out there.

[HannahStarr]

*bump* Anyone watch last night's episode?

The only thing I have to say is that the guys are really, really, REALLY starting to annoy me. I was totally ****** when Brady was voted off - not because I liked him (I didn't), but because they're voting off the strong guys! Soon it's just going to be the older, chubby ones (*cough*Bubba*cough* :p), and they're not going to win any challenges.

Also, Eliza was a bit hypocritical for yelling at Lisa when she bretrayed the alliance. Didn't she do the exact same thing when she voted for Dolly??

[Intimidator77]

[QUOTE]Someone told me that Rupert was going to be involved in the show in someway, is that a rumor?

Rupert actually was screening oncomming survivers for the show or so that is what I have heard. I was pretty excited about this season comming up, but i am dissapointed in it so far. The All Stars kind of blew away all the rest, and set the pace, but I guess it could get better.

Can someone tell me how you take text from another post, and reply to it, like I tried to do up top there, but obviously didn't work like I thought it would. :upset:

[RubberSoul]

Can someone tell me how you take text from another post, and reply to it, like I tried to do up top there, but obviously didn't work like I thought it would. :upset:
There's a button at the bottom of each post that says 'Quote'. You just click on that, and you'll get onto the reply screen and be able to quote from what the person says. Hope that helps.:)

Eliza really was quite hypocritical...and not to mention that it seems the camerapeople can rely on her for exaggerated facial expressions whenever Jeff announces a twist. The camera's always turned to her, and we see her huge mouth open and eyes popping out. Funny stuff.

That whole tribesman coming to their camp to help them seemed really hokey.

[Intimidator77]

There's a button at the bottom of each post that says 'Quote'. You just click on that, and you'll get onto the reply screen and be able to quote from what the person says. Hope that helps.:)



Thanks i think i got a hang of it now.

[Angora]

I'm sad that The Man Named Brady is gone. He was good-looking. And also I think the guys are being a little premature by voting out people who might come in handy during challenges. Or, at least handier than people with no balance and a morbid fear of physical contact.
That whole tribesman coming to their camp to help them seemed really hokey.
I thought it was funny, just because of how unimpressed he looked to be there. I'll bet he was weirded out when they insisted on hugging him goodbye too.

I agree this season's a snooze fest so far, but next week looks like it might be exciting. Maybe. Possibly. Perhaps.

[agpotter]

Okay, I guess I'll bump our little thread here, since another episode has come and gone... Sadly, I missed the first half because I wasn't able to record it while I was in class, but I got to see from when they were enjoying the reward to the end. I think it's starting to get a little interesting, just because (*SPOILER ALERT*) the tribes are mixed up and the girls and boys are now mixed... I kind of hate it when it's boys against girls, but once they mix there's a lot of interesting tension because you wonder if they're original ties are going to hold strong or if they're going to break, and who's going to be the one to try and break them (*cough*ELIZA*cough*).

On a side-note, Jeff Probst is really starting to get on my nerves. He's so annoying in challenges, telling the tribes how horribly they're doing and they have to get their act together and stuff... Man, just tell who's winning, how many knots each tribe has untied, how close or far away from each other they are, you know, commentate, don't offer your personal tirades! Sheesh, what a nerd, I sometimes think. It's not personal for him, he's an outside party.

Anyway, I'm really glad about how it worked out this week... All I'll say is Goodbye, Bob Barker... :)

As for next week, why oh WHY, in every season, does some fake-chested woman have to take off her top??? Especially just after the tribes have mixed? And they make such a big deal about promoting it, and guaranteed it will be on the reunion special too! Do these girls have no sense of modesty??? Oh well, I guess it's all right as long as they blur the itty-bitty spots when you might see something... </sarcasm>

[Angora]

Hee hee hee. I liked the part where both tribes were trying to lure Lisa over. It was like that mean game where both people try to call the puppy over to them from opposite directions and the puppy gets all confused.

I also liked the part where they made Lea their chief and he immediately took off his pants. I know he had his reasons (he thought he was getting in the boat) but it's still funny. I don't know why.

Personally, I like it when Jeff snarks at the teams while they're competing.

The only thing that got my attention in the previews for next week is the part where Rory said something like, "My speech was unbelievably cheesy. I couldn't even believe it was coming out of my mouth while I said it" or whatever. I want to see this cheesy speech.

Also:
Also, Twila is in highway repair and Chris is in highway construction. They will have so much to talk about if they ever meet!
That's right. :tu: It's the only thing I've ever gotten right in the history of my Survivor predictions.

[HannahStarr]

Thursday's episode was great. :D I was very glad to see Bubba gone... I liked him in the beginning, but for the past two weeks or so he became very annoying. The tribe-switching was funny as well. I thought the reward for the RC was kind of weird, though. Pringles and beer?? I could think of about a hundred better rewards to give a tribe than THAT (of course, I know Pringles sponsors Survivor and everything...)

Next week looks exciting. :D

[agpotter]

Okay, it's high time someone bumped this thread... This week's episode was all right... Rory is increasingly getting worse in the obnoxiousness area, and I think he might just be bugging his way out of the top 4 (or 5 or 6...). I think Ami is a bit dramatic about everything, and *spoilers* it's interesting to see the girls' alliance had become so weak! I mean, Lisa didn't even really do that much, it was just a slip of the tongue, she didn't mean anything by it, and Ami totally turned everyone against her. Anyway, I would rather the other tribe won immunity so they could vote out Julie (she's useless! She just sits around and sunbathes naked! Eep!).

[HannahStarr]

I like Ami, I really do, but this week she just annoyed me so much. She completely overreacted when Lisa made that comment. I was sad to see Lisa go.

Anyone else getting annoyed by all the water challenges? They're so... repetitive!
The RC this week was fun, though. :D

[Angora]

I felt bad for Leann. That immunity challenge would have kicked my ***. I also with Rory would stop calling the "chopping block" the "auction block" because it's really not the same metaphor. Lisa annoyed me as much as anyone, so I don't really care that she's gone.

I'm trying to think back and remember what else happened. I remember not being very impressed with Lea when he gave that voice over about how he would hang out with Twila and then dress her in a dress and take her to a resteraunt, but I don't remember why exactly.

[agpotter]

Okay, all, another episode come and gone....

I'm just going to come out and say it, so if you haven't watched this week's episode, you better read no further....

THANK HEAVENS RORY IS FINALLY GONE!!! That man was so annoying, I couldn't believe it! He just complained about one thing, then complained about something else when the first was resolved, then something else, etc. etc. I mean, he thought he was so intelligent and in charge, but he was so good at covering his own butt, he almost convinced everyone that he was smart even though he was just b.s.ing pretty much from start to finish.

It will be very interesting to see if the girls will stay strong to the end. All I know is Chad, Chris and Sarge better be doing some quick thinking, or they'll be out one by one. How would it be to have an all-female Final Four! Cat fights galore!

Oh, and I thought it was gross when Sarge removed his shorts. Oh brother.

[HannahStarr]

I agree - I'm SO glad that Rory is off the show.
As of right now, the only ones on the island who don't annoy me are Julie, Scout, and Leanne. I find this very sad.

I'm trying to remember what happened last episode. Did anything exciting happen?? :lol: