Hockey Fans Unite!

[DougJohnston]

Just so everyone knows, I was a good boy and searched :lol: but I was torn to see that there was no hockey thread around! I swear on my Firebolt that there used to be one but I havent found it. If this is a duplicate Im really sorry :scared:

Anyways its hockey, roller or ice. A fast paced, hard hitting, game of stamina. What do you like about hockey? Do you play? Favorite team or player? Here we can discuss the strategies of the game and share what we know about the sport...

To kick it off, Im an Ice hockey player from az, playing as a sophmore for Mountain Pointe High School... I am an all round player who is mainly a stay at home defensemen but I also like to rack up some points as a forward :D I've been playing since I was about 7 years old.

*Another thing to think about-Here is a poll from FoxyKnoxy
Questions/Poll:
What do you guys think about the number of teams in the NHL?

Do you think there are too many for the league to sustain itself?

Do you think the league should expand again into new cities?

Do you think the smaller market teams should be made into 'farm teams'?

What teams do you think the league could give up to stay afloat?

[Classical_Wizar]

I swear on my Firebolt that there used to be one but I havent found it. I thought I saw a NHL thread too, but I guess it got deleted during some pruning. Played some during gym class, and street hockey among friends but nothing on a team. Used to like the Red Wings and Rangers just haven’t really been into that many sports lately but maybe its time to start watching again. Did like that one goal tender "Goalzilla" I think was his name.

[DougJohnston]

I thought I saw a NHL thread too, but I guess it got deleted during some pruning. Played some during gym class, and street hockey among friends but nothing on a team. Used to like the Red Wings and Rangers just haven’t really been into that many sports lately but maybe its time to start watching again. Did like that one goal tender "Goalzilla" I think was his name.

Haha, I got scared when I saw Classical_Wizar as a first post...you are like the ultimate searcher and I thought I made a duplicate :lol: Anyways, Street hockey was how I got started...its an awesome game. Tons of fun! Anyways Im a huge redwings fan! I havent heard of that goalie...I assume its a nickname...Probably one of my favorite goalies is Dominik Hasek :tu:

[Classical_Wizar]

Haha, I got scared when I saw Classical_Wizar as a first post...you are like the ultimate searcher and I thought I made a duplicate :lol: Anyways, Street hockey was how I got started...its an awesome game. Tons of fun! Anyways Im a huge redwings fan! I havent heard of that goalie...I assume its a nickname...Probably one of my favorite goalies is Dominik Hasek :tu:
Thanks, I just have too much time on my hands. Yeah it was a nickname I forgot what team he played or even what his real name was, might have been for the Rangers but the guy was just great. Think he was on one of the Winter Olympics team too. Yeah Street Hockey was just great, used to play with sneakers because I didn't know how to skate, turns were easier for me. Did have some injuries though, which I’m sure every Hockey player had faced before.

[DougJohnston]

Yes...Injuries...BAD! Lets see...I tore all the connective tissue/muscle in my left shoulder when I missed a check and couldnt do anything for about a month...slight concussion...nothing too bad. If you play safe in contact hockey you really dont get hurt on checks...just your ego gets hurt :lol: Its like if you are within 8-12 inches of the boards and you get hit you bounce off them and it cushions the hit...you get supported, now if you are father away than that you get slammed hard and it hurts pretty bad. I play a really physical game and its a lot of fun.


EDIT: Well I have to go to hockey practice right now actually so I will talk to you later, See ya!

[IceKat55]

:clap: Yay! Hockey! My LIFE!! ;)

So what do all the NHL fans think of the pending CBA argument between the Players Association & the NHL? They had more meetings last week and the NHL released a rather biting statement'. It's not looking good...I'm afraid the season won't start on time, if at all. :(

NHL, Union conclude two days of talks;
Daly: League 'frustrated' by PA's stalling
August 26, 2004
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OTTAWA - NHL Executive Vice President and Chief Legal Officer Bill Daly today released the following statement upon the conclusion of a two-day negotiating session with the NHL Players' Association:

We are very frustrated and concerned over where we are in this process. The Union is engaged in a charade.

It is clear to us that Union leadership has no interest in negotiating or making a deal to save the start of the season. Union leadership is stalling, doing everything in its power to ensure this collective bargaining negotiation is not resolved in a timely manner. The Union's last and only proposal was made on June 4, 2003 -- now nearly 15 months ago. The Union's proposal was intended merely to preserve a status quo that promises escalating ticket prices, competitive imbalance, bankrupt franchises, hundreds of millions in team losses and 20 teams losing money -- all of which imperil the future of our game.

Union leadership then spent the better part of the next 12 months doing everything possible to avoid meeting with us. Once they completed the process of briefing the players during their annual "fall tour" of NHL cities, we began pushing for a more aggressive meeting schedule in February of this year in an effort to reach a new agreement so that our fans would have hockey, as scheduled, this October. Union leadership resisted these efforts at every turn, limiting negotiations to one meeting in April, one in May -- then delaying our next meeting until July in order to conduct two more player meetings.

On July 21, we presented the Union with six distinct and thoughtful proposals on ways in which we could re-design our economic system so that it would work for the League as a whole, our fans, our players and each of our franchises. Any of these new systems would continue to pay star players multi-million dollar salaries; would see the maintenance of an average player salary of $1.3 million (U.S.); and would pay the players more than 50% of league revenues. Union leadership spent only six hours going through the six proposals with us, then concluded that each was a "cap" and rejected all six out of hand. The fact that only one of the six proposals actually contemplated a salary cap exposes the Union for its true motivation -- to do everything necessary to precipitate a fight in an attempt to preserve the status quo.

Now that we are into late August, Union leadership recognizes that it no longer can get away with avoiding a more aggressive meeting schedule, so it has found a different way to stall, talking about individual team situations that have already been discussed in detail over the course of the last five years -- and matters, quite frankly, that should have been discussed months ago if the Union truly was interested in them. Union leadership is trying to get from today to September 15 without having to engage in meaningful negotiations with us. Union leadership does not want a resolution, it does not want a deal, it does not want a full season of hockey unless it is on their terms. Union leadership only wants the status quo -- a result that we have consistently communicated is unacceptable.

We hear in the media -- not from the Union -- that Union leadership's current meandering exercise of reviewing club situations is intended for the purpose of helping it to better understand our problems, and to help it formulate a new proposal to address our concerns. What are they waiting for? They know that the League as a whole has lost more than $500 million over the past two years and in excess of $1.7 billion over the term of this CBA. We've taken great pains over the past 5-1/2 years not only to demonstrate and evidence these problems to the Union, but also to explain these problems in great detail.

The way it appears, Union leadership now will make a last-minute proposal, possibly as late as September 14 or 15, and characterize it as its 'magnanimous last and best effort to save the season.' I am doubtful that the proposal will be a meaningful, bona fide effort to address our problems, which threaten to deprive our fans of a prompt start to the season. If the proposal consists of a repackaged 'status quo' system, it will not work -- and will not be acceptable -- and Union leadership knows it.

[DougJohnston]

Yeah, I've been hearing that things arent going too good...im not too worried about it though, I watch a lot of hockey but playing it is much more fun...there will always be some type of hockey to watch wether is at the rink or watching clips on NHL.com so its not the end of the world to me..

[FoxyKnoxy]

DougJohnston
Yeah, I've been hearing that things arent going too good...im not too worried about it though, I watch a lot of hockey but playing it is much more fun...there will always be some type of hockey to watch wether is at the rink or watching clips on NHL.com so its not the end of the world to me..
Well it would be a huge mistake if the Union did cause a postponement of the regular season! Just think how much money the league, the owners, and the players would be losing if there were no regular season! I think this ploy of the Unions to get what they want is just another attempt to force teams to up players salaries whether they can afford it or not! :td:

From the CBC: The current collective bargaining agreement has seen average salaries rise from $733,000 US in 1994-95 to $1.83 million US in 2003-04. According to the union, every proposal included what amounted to a cap on player salaries – which it steadfastly refuses to accept.

Maybe a Salary Cap is needed as a lot of teams can't afford the big $10 million salaries of some superstars on their rosters and are always in the Red at the end of the season even if they fill the stands at every game (like Calgary for example). It is a shame really, as it makes the Unions seem like a bunch of greedy people always striving for the next big buck not taking into account, the millions of fans out there who just want to watch a game they love so much! :sad:

The little fan support the NHL has now will likely deminish for sure. They would probably think that if there is no Regular Season this year, that the league doesn't want our business and would happily take thier money to another sport that does (like basketball or football).

I am a huge Toronto Maple Leafs and San Jose Sharks fan and it would be a great loss to me if I wouldn't be able to watch them play this season! :grumble:

[DougJohnston]

Yeah, I think a lot of the players are greedy but I dont follow the financial aspect of the game. Hockey is nowhere near as popular as basketball or football and I think the fans would be hurt greatly...

:tu: Maple Leafs :tu:

[FoxyKnoxy]

So what team is your favorite NHL team? Who is your most favorite player (past or present)? What coach do you like the best?

Besides Toronto and San Jose, I always cheer for any Canadian team in the playoffs and I can't stand the New York Rangers for some reason!

Best Coach would have to be Scotty Bowman or Marc Crawford.

Favorite players include Doug Gilmore, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Ricci, and Tie Domi.

[DougJohnston]

So what team is your favorite NHL team? Who is your most favorite player (past or present)? What coach do you like the best?

Besides Toronto and San Jose, I always cheer for any Canadian team in the playoffs and I can't stand the New York Rangers for some reason!

Best Coach would have to be Scotty Bowman or Marc Crawford.

Favorite players include Doug Gilmore, Wayne Gretzky, Mike Ricci, and Tie Domi.



I love the way you think! Scotty Bowman is my hero, I have a signed picture of the "Great One" on my wall. The Redwings are definetly my favorite team, Federov is one of my favorites along with Lemiux (sorry about the spelling) Hasek, Yzerman, Shanahan, Teppo Numinem...Shane Doan...

[feeniks]

Woot! I love hockey, especially the vancouver canucks! Can't wait for the new NHL season.

[Droobles]

I just started playing Hockey as a sport at school and it is so fun.
I was so happy when the Kookaburras won the Men's Team for Hockey! I was celebrating all night!

[~oSiRiS~]

I am a hugh Wings fan. Well I am from Hockeytown so that might be why :p
I am not too much of a wings fan right now. They are messing up the team at the moment.:grumble:
It hasn't been the same since Scotty left.:upset:

Ah well I got to celebrate three cups

I am not too happy that we are probably not going to have a season this year.
I do not salery caps but something needs to be done for the smaller teams.
I keep forgetting hockey isn't as popular in other cities as it is here in Michigan.
I was in LA and they were not even showing the games on television.
Even with the salary cap in place the players will still get their money. They will just get it through bonuses instead.

[DragonBlk17]

All I have to say is: Let's go Buffalo Sabres! :tu: :D

[DougJohnston]

Wow, its good to see some true fans around the forums! I stayed home with a migraine today...practice was really physical last night...My mom is at the store so I snuck on the computer :evil:

Im glad that I havent met any Dallas Stars fans yet...:lol:

[TheGreatest]

Canucks rule all. They will win the cup next season whether it may be in 05 or 06. My favourite players would be:Linden, Bertuzzi, Cooke, Sakic ,Luongo and Marc-Andre Fleury. I hate the Leafs, Avs, Rangers, Red Wings and Flyers.

[DougJohnston]

Canucks rule all. They will win the cup next season whether it may be in 05 or 06. My favourite players would be:Linden, Bertuzzi, Cooke, Sakic ,Luongo and Marc-Andre Fleury. I hate the Leafs, Avs, Rangers, Red Wings and Flyers.

:evil: I cant stand the avalanche either but Joe Sakic has one heck of a shot!

[TheGreatest]

No doubt he has the best wrister in the league. He was born in my town (Burnaby) and went to my high school.

[DougJohnston]

No doubt he has the best wrister in the league. He was born in my town (Burnaby) and went to my high school.

Whoa, thats really cool! Has he ever come back to visit?

[TheGreatest]

Whoa, thats really cool! Has he ever come back to visit?


Yeah he did when he won the Cup in 96. Are you gonna watch the World Cup of Hockey? Canada Vs USA starts in about 35 minutes.

[FoxyKnoxy]

Here is some information on who is playing in the world cup:World Cup Of Hockey Official Site - Rosters (http://wch2004.com/rosters/index.html)

Go! Team Canada Go!

Results:
Sweden 5 : Germany 2
Finland 4 : Czech Republic 0

Funny thing is Slovakia and Russia are in the North American Pool! :rotfl:

[TheGreatest]

Yeah they did that to even the pools out. Did anyone see the Germany Vs Sweden game this morning? Salo didn't look good in net at all.

[FoxyKnoxy]

I missed the Germany/Sweden game but I will definately not miss Canada vs USA for sure! CBC coverage here I come!

[DougJohnston]

Hey everybody...im back...when is the game on...Im in az

[FoxyKnoxy]

USA VS Canada airs in ten minutes on the CBC here in Canada. For you, check out ESPN2. Start time is for 7:00pm EST or 5pm for me in Saskatchewan or 4pm for you in Arizona. Hope that helps!

[DougJohnston]

USA VS Canada airs in ten minutes on the CBC here in Canada. For you, check out ESPN2. Start time is for 7:00pm EST or 5pm for me in Saskatchewan or 4pm for you in Arizona. Hope that helps!


Thanks a ton! You know your stuff!

My brain is fried from school...lol

EDIT:I cant remember anything :lol: too many pucks in the head

I see it!

[FoxyKnoxy]

DougJohnston
Thanks a ton! You know your stuff! My brain is fried from school...lol EDIT:I cant remember anything too many pucks in the head
It helps when you have instant access to Google and know how to search for stuff quickly! Check out this link to see the schedule for the World Cup and when & Where to watch it:
World Cup Of Hockey - Schedule (http://wch2004.com/schedules/index.html)

[~oSiRiS~]

Oooh USA vs Canada!!!
I hope its a good game!!!

I am torn though. I live so close to Canada its hard to root for one or the other.

[FoxyKnoxy]

Talk to you guys after the game! It is about to get going here on the CBC so bye!

[DougJohnston]

Talk to you guys after the game! It is about to get going here on the CBC so bye!


See you later! Thanks for the info! See you after USA wins! :lol:

[~oSiRiS~]

It sucks this is the only hockey we are going to get to watch this year :grumble:

[McBeth]

Hockey ROCKS! I've played it since I was six. Even though I'm a girl, I've always loved street and ice hockey. When I first started out as a neighborhood-scrimager (which I'll always be, basically) I used a snowshovel as a stick! I've never played on a team, but my older brother has. I pull for the Carolina Hurricanes.

[DougJohnston]

Welcome to the thread McBeth!

WHOA! Who is watching the game! Robert Esche is making some amazing saves! :wow:

[~oSiRiS~]

That glove save was very nice!!!!

This game is going at a nice pace for the players not playing with each other much.

Ooo that was a nice one timer save.

[DougJohnston]

That glove save was very nice!!!!

Yeah! Exactly what I was thinking of. Whoooweee!

USA is losing composure...

[~oSiRiS~]

Yes they are.

This has been a great first period.

[DougJohnston]

Oh man! The shots! The saves! This is incredible! I think Esche needs tto say in net more though...he misplayed the puck and almost let in a goal. They dont need to run out of the net every time the puck is within 10 feet of them. The powerplays are realling goin to make this game exciting

[~oSiRiS~]

Canada is totally out playing USA in the corners.
I soo needed this tourny to start right now.
I was soo in the mood for watching hockey.

[DougJohnston]

Both teams seem to be holding the point pretty good...more heads up passing by the US would be nice...

[~oSiRiS~]

Can ESPN have anymore commercials?

[DougJohnston]

Well...they seem to be pretty short.

Im convinced that they are holding Chris Chellios (sorry about the spelling) together with screws and glue. He is a superb player but he is old...42 :lol:

[~oSiRiS~]

He has a good chilly bar.
I think he still has another year or two left on his contract for the wings.


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[DougJohnston]

Thats good to hear...GOAL!!!!!

NO! USA...I told you its all about the penalties!


Just a second though, for all the players out there, what type of helmet do you wear, facemask cage shield?

[~oSiRiS~]

OOOOooo that was a nice save!!!!

I have a CCM helmet I believe.
I used to have a ITech full face sheild when I was younger. I did not like it so I switched to a black cage.
Now I do not use any face shield or cage.

[DougJohnston]

Yeah, Im still in High School leagues and I have to wear a full cage. I like it though, it doesnt affect my vision and I dont fight so I like the extra protection. I've only gotten hit in the face once or twice with a puck because my reaction is so fast that I nearly always catch it or knock it away.

[~oSiRiS~]

I have taken about 5 pucks to the face. I put myself in front of the net like your Dino, or Holmstrom(sp?) so I should probably wear some sort of shield. I take alot of sticks to the face when people try to move me from the front of the net.

[DougJohnston]

Ah...thats no good... I like to block shots...when I go down I've got one hand high, one low...Do you wear a mouthguard?

[~oSiRiS~]

Oh yes. I pride myself on being a hockey player with all my teeth still in. A little crooked, but still have them all.

Wow.......
Darn penalties....

[DougJohnston]

Thats good! I cut up my mouth guards a ton so its tiny so I can talk to my teammates... I always pop it in and out to breathe easier... My teeth are all straight and nice so after all the money my dad spent on braces he forces me to wear...


Canada Scored AGAIN...
They are playing so good tonight..

I gotta eat dinner, Back in a while :tu:

[_Sarah_]

Well I'm not exactly a fan... but I'm definitely watching the game, go Canada!

[~oSiRiS~]

Lots of penalties this evening.

[_Sarah_]

I know, but it's a big rivalry. I guess both teams want it a little too much.

[~oSiRiS~]

yeah, still wish the refs would just let them play.

Now that was a nice shot!!!!

[_Sarah_]

I refuse to admit that (go Canada) Tom Jones? Where are they getting this music?

[~oSiRiS~]

I have no clue. Its pretty sad. They play good music at "The Joe".

Great game this one is.
Canada plays tomorrow?
They are going to be tired for that one after this.

[DougJohnston]

Back everyone...Good to see that USA got on the board...Hey ~oSiRiS~, what kind of stick do you play with...wood or composite?

EDIT: Whoa! We got some fightin going on!

[~oSiRiS~]

Yes we do!!!!


I have this old junior Nike fiberglass stick. Its pretty short.
I has alot of give to it. I have a similar shot like Bret Hull.
I put my weight into it and let the bend do the rest.

What kind of stick do you use?

[DougJohnston]

Well I have a redlite shaft with a focus flex blade (iginla). I Like it but its too short for me and I would really like to get a synergy with the money I make selling my old hockey skates. Its just that those sticks are so bloody expensive that I dont know if I will. My dad says whatever money I get from the skates can be used on hockey but all my other equipment works great. I hate it when players judge their performance purely on equipment... *grrrr*

[~oSiRiS~]

All my friends have synergy's. I liked it. But I prefered my Nike. The thing is pretty old. They do not make them anymore. It was like the first stick Nike started making.
I am surprised the shaft has lasted this long. I have broke many blades and butt inserts but the shaft is still in great condidtion.

[DougJohnston]

Thats good to hear. I wish everything was that high of quality...
I used to play with wood sticks, this is my first composite. I kept breaking the wood sticks right in the middle of the shaft...I broke tons of blades from slamming it on the boards and ice but now that my blade alone is 65$ I treat it like gold :lol:

[~oSiRiS~]

Yeah stick prices have gone up soo much since I first started to play.
Composites were unherd of and paying more that $15 was unbelievable.

[DougJohnston]

Haha, When my dad played they didnt even have curves on the sticks...that was back when there was only like 6 teams :lol:

What an old man :p He's a good guy though! Pays for all the things I need...expensive sport hockey is...

[Adalbert Waffling]

I played hockey once, and loved it. I would have joined a league, but seeing as how the nearest rink is about 2 hours away...*sighs*

[~oSiRiS~]

Yeah it is, a bit cheaper than the other sport I play, Paintball.

Good job Canada. That was a good game.

[TheLoveOf Fred]

I have two friends who play hockey.. sometimes I help them practice :D but I love!!! watching the Wings... I want them now :D

[DougJohnston]

Ah, more hockey fans! Good, very good! And another Wings fan! :D
Canada played a great game :tu: They deserved the win

[~oSiRiS~]

Yes they did. I can't wait till the next games tomorrow and on thursday.

[FoxyKnoxy]

What a weird game! I was totally expecting the USA to come out in better shape than that! I couldn't beliee the shots on goal Canada had in the first period alone but luckily the US has Esche who played brilliantly by only allowing in 2 goals! The US really needs to work on their defence and offence!

Canada needs to start shaping up too! Fighting is great to watch but when you are leading a game, you can't afford any stupid penalties like that! And I must say: "What is with Canada's vintage jerseys? They're yellow???" :huh: I did like the maple leaf on the front but the color just didn't suit them.

Tomorrow Sept 1: Czech Republic vs. Sweden 1:00 PM EDT ESPN,CBC
Canada vs. Slovakia 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC

Sept 2: Finland vs. Germany 1:30 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC
Russia vs. United States 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC


Way to go Canada! Keep it up! :clap:

[DougJohnston]

What a weird game! I was totally expecting the USA to come out in better shape than that! I couldn't beliee the shots on goal Canada had in the first period alone but luckily the US has Esche who played brilliantly by only allowing in 2 goals! The US really needs to work on their defence and offence!

Canada needs to start shaping up too! Fighting is great to watch but when you are leading a game, you can't afford any stupid penalties like that! And I must say: "What is with Canada's vintage jerseys? They're yellow???" :huh: I did like the maple leaf on the front but the color just didn't suit them.

Tomorrow Sept 1: Czech Republic vs. Sweden 1:00 PM EDT ESPN,CBC
Canada vs. Slovakia 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC

Sept 2: Finland vs. Germany 1:30 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC
Russia vs. United States 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC


Way to go Canada! Keep it up! :clap:


:rotfl: I couldnt agree with you more! Thanks for the times :D

[FoxyKnoxy]

I finally found the info on the jerseys:

Canada opens wearing vintage jerseys

Canadian Press:
Yes, that was Team Canada on your TV set Tuesday night. Canada's players surprised the soldout Bell Centre crowd by hitting the ice wearing gold jerseys for Tuesday's World Cup of Hockey opener against the United States.

They wore them in tribute to the 1920 Winnipeg Falcons - Canada's first gold medal winning team in Olympic hockey history. The replica vintage jerseys, worn only for Tuesday's game, were described as `antique gold,' continuing Hockey Canada's effort to honour past Canadian teams. Last season Hockey Canada launched similar jerseys for Canada's national teams of the 1970s.

"We really thought we wanted to do something special for the Falcons," Hockey Canada president Bob Nicholson said Tuesday. "The buzz in the dressing room is unbelievable."

The gold jerseys had `Canada' written on the back instead of the players' names, and had a red Maple Leaf on the front. The 1920 Winnipeg Falcons were a team of Icelandic immigrants that handily won the Manitoba and Western finals before advancing to the Allan Cup final in Toronto, where they faced the heavily favoured University of Toronto for Canada's senior hockey championship and a right to represent the country at the 1920 Olympics in Antwerp, Belgium.

At Antwerp, the Falcons defeated Czechoslovakia, the United States and eventually Sweden in the final game by a lopsided 12-1 final to earn gold. "This is what we should be doing, recognizing our past," said Nicholson. "We wouldn't be here today if they weren't successful in 1920." The replica jerseys, produced by Bauer Nike Hockey, will be available in stores across the country.

[TheGreatest]

AHHHHHHHH MAN. Jovo's out for the tournament, and he was just starting to play better. Hope he doesn't miss any NHL time. Great first period by Canada, the rest of the game was average. Did anyone see Lemieux fight? What a player.

[DougJohnston]

Haha, Yep, I saw him start to go at it but it got broken up pretty quickly...I really wouldnt expect that out of him. I jumped up and was cheering at the tv when I saw it happen

[_Sarah_]

Yeah those jerseys were... nice. If only I had tickets to that game... you could win some off the radio but I didn't even know. I even know people who went but I still couldn't find a way. Great game though, go Canada.

[DougJohnston]

Yeah those jerseys were... nice. If only I had tickets to that game... you could win some off the radio but I didn't even know. I even know people who went but I still couldn't find a way. Great game though, go Canada.

Do I note a hint of sarcasm or did you really like them? :lol: I thought if they were a bit brighter and not so mustard looking that it would have looked nicer but since it was in honor of the Winnipeg Falcons I understand.

[FoxyKnoxy]

Update:
Sweden 4 : Czech Republic 3
This puts Sweden in the top spot in the European Pool Standings.

Reminder Canada takes on Slovakia today at 7pm EST!

[DougJohnston]

Goodness! I just saw the last part of the second period and Canada is up 3-0! Whoa! Lemiux got robbed of a goal within the last minute of the game (2 on 1). Great save by the goalie. He did really good to not get caught too far over and stayed square to the puck

EDIT: Im 50 percent Slovakian...should that make me a fan? :lol:

Update: 4 to 0 Canada! All of their goals have been nothing short of spectacular! The backhander was my favorite!

Another Update! Slovakia is on the board with a great rebound goal :clap:

ANOTHER UPDATE: Canada Strikes again! 5-1! What a game!!!

[TheGreatest]

Hahahah Canada is the Nation of hockey, they will win the Cup, they will roll over everyone to get there. I don't care if its the Czechs, Fins, Swedes or Slovaks,they will dominate.

[Bmonk]

As a matter of fact I watched the Canada Slovakia game today, wasnt really fair take all the superstars from each NHL team and put em together you have team Canada I almost felt bad for Slovakia and their goalie whos never played in the NHL

[FoxyKnoxy]

Way To Go Canada! I think it may just be a Canada vs Sweden final! What do you think?



Tomorrow Check Out:
Finland vs. Germany 1:30 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC
Russia vs. United States 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC

[TheGreatest]

As a matter of fact I watched the Canada Slovakia game today, wasnt really fair take all the superstars from each NHL team and put em together you have team Canada I almost felt bad for Slovakia and their goalie whos never played in the NHL



Actually Slovakia has a good team, they just have 4 of their best players out with injury(Handzus, Zednik, Bondra and Palffy. Their only weak area is goaltending.

[DougJohnston]

Actually Slovakia has a good team, they just have 4 of their best players out with injury(Handzus, Zednik, Bondra and Palffy. Their only weak area is goaltending.

Didnt Handzus use to play for the Phoenix Coyotes? :huh:

[FoxyKnoxy]

Yesterdays Score Summary:
Finland 3 : Germany 0
Russia 3 : USA 1

Since I will be going home this weekend to see my parents who DON'T have internet :grumble: , I will show you who will be playing this weekend. This is proving to be a very interesting tournament for the USA (2 losses???). Keep things updated around here for me DougJohnston :eyebrows: !

Friday Sept.3 Games:
Germany vs. Czech Republic 1:00 PM EDT ESPN,CBC
Slovakia vs. United States 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC

Saturday Sept.4 Games:
Sweden vs. Finland 1:00 PM EDT CBC
Russia vs. Canada 7:00 PM EDT CBC

Sun Sept.5 Games:
Slovakia vs. Russia 7:00 PM EDT CBC


DougJohnston
Didnt Handzus use to play for the Phoenix Coyotes?
Yes he did for two seasons 2000-2002. St. Louis traded Handzus to the Phoenix Coyotes in a deal for Keith Tkachuk in 2001. After a little more than a season with the Coyotes, the pivot was dealt to the Philadelphia Flyers in a trade for Brian Boucher in 2002. Information from: NHL.com (http://www.nhl.com/lineups/player/8462129.html)

Regular Season Playoffs
Year Team League
97-98 Worcester AHL
98-99 St. Louis NHL
99-00 St. Louis NHL
00-01 Phoenix NHL
- St. Louis NHL
01-02 Phoenix NHL
02-03 Flyers NHL
03-04 Flyers NHL

[anik]

Saturday it's going to be Canada vs Russia.
All hockey fans have to watch that game.
Martin Brodeur is the best goaler (maybe after Patrick Roy) in the world!

Someone asked who was our favorite player (past or present) so for me it's Maurice "Rocket" Richard.

[MagicianGirl]

I am a big hockey fan. Woohoo! Canada rules in hockey champions in Olympic and World and kicking major behind in the World Cup. We are the Kings of the Ice:D

[~oSiRiS~]

Quick Update here.

Czech Republic beat Germany today with a score of 7-2.

Here are the current standings for the tourney.

European Pool
_______________________________
GP W L T OTL PTS GF GA
FINLAND 2 2 0 0 0 4 7 0
SWEDEN 2 2 0 0 0 4 9 5
CZECH REPUBLIC 3 1 2 0 0 2 10 10
GERMANY 3 0 3 0 0 0 4 15


North American Pool
_______________________________
GP W L T OTL PTS GF GA
CANADA 2 2 0 0 0 4 7 2
RUSSIA 1 1 0 0 0 2 3 1
SLOVAKIA 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 5
UNITED STATES 2 0 2 0 0 0 2 5

ETA: I can't get stats to format properly.
So here is a like to the stats on the official site.
Official Standings (http://wch2004.com/standings/index.html)

[DougJohnston]

Whoa! 7-2! Ouch...too bad I didnt get to see that one...

[~oSiRiS~]

They scored five goals in the second period alone. Was pretty imbarrasing for the Germans I bet.

[DougJohnston]

They scored five goals in the second period alone. Was pretty imbarrasing for the Germans I bet.

:lol: Oh man! Thats like house-league scoring... I feel bad for them though...nothing is worse than getting shalacked by a team in front of thousands...

[~oSiRiS~]

Yeah definatly.

I still remember the Wings/ Canadians game where the Wings beat them 11-5 or something like that. I believe it was the last game Roy played for them.

[DougJohnston]

Patrick Roy would bug me a lot...he wanted to play the puck too much and was often caught out of position..

[~oSiRiS~]

Yes he did.

USA just defeated Slovakia 3-1.
It was an alright game.

[DougJohnston]

Yes he did.

USA just defeated Slovakia 3-1.
It was an alright game.

Ah! Stupid me! I didnt know it was on :(

Oh well...life goes on... Thats good that they won!

[~oSiRiS~]

Yes indeed,
Nothing too spectacular happened. Your standard game.

[DougJohnston]

Yeah...hockey is hockey to me, as long as I got some goals being scored, some bodies being thrown around, and some hard skating Im happy.

[x Natalie x]

Just so everyone knows, I was a good boy and searched :lol: but I was torn to see that there was no hockey thread around! I swear on my Firebolt that there used to be one but I havent found it. If this is a duplicate Im really sorry :scared:

Anyways its hockey, roller or ice. A fast paced, hard hitting, game of stamina. What do you like about hockey? Do you play? Favorite team or player? Here we can discuss the strategies of the game and share what we know about the sport...

To kick it off, Im an Ice hockey player from az, playing as a sophmore for Mountain Pointe High School... I am an all round player who is mainly a stay at home defensemen but I also like to rack up some points as a forward :D I've been playing since I was about 7 years old.
Heh, I don't like NHL hockey, at all. I don't know why, so don't ask. I just find it incredibly boring.

I do, however, LOVE going to my Highschool's hockey games. Ahem, mainly because we kick serious behind, ahem. It's just so much fun to watch because my friends play on the team, and the grade 12's are SO funny at the games. It's just a blast. Plus, I get to miss class and scope out the hot players :p

[DougJohnston]

Heh, I don't like NHL hockey, at all. I don't know why, so don't ask. I just find it incredibly boring.

I do, however, LOVE going to my Highschool's hockey games. Ahem, mainly because we kick serious behind, ahem. It's just so much fun to watch because my friends play on the team, and the grade 12's are SO funny at the games. It's just a blast. Plus, I get to miss class and scope out the hot players :p

Hey Natalie! Good to see you :D Its okay if your not a die hard fan like me and ~oSiRiS~ :lol: Strangely enough...I used to hate hockey but I ended up fallin in love with it. Thats really cool that you have a good hockey team. Is your school specifically a hockey school because thats uncommon over here to have a game during school...

[hermioneclone9]

Some of my friends are obsessed with hockey, I'm not a huge fan, but it sure is fun watching people getting beat up. :lol:

In my area, there's a youth hockey league thing, and my friend is just begging me to try out with her. I would, except I'm playing soccer right now, which is the closest sport (that I know of) to hockey. People get beat up all the time. My friends have some awesome bruises! Oops, anyway, the hockey league is in-line hockey. I'd be more interested if it was ice-hockey, though.

[x Natalie x]

Hey Natalie! Good to see you :D Its okay if your not a die hard fan like me and ~oSiRiS~ :lol: Strangely enough...I used to hate hockey but I ended up fallin in love with it. Thats really cool that you have a good hockey team. Is your school specifically a hockey school because thats uncommon over here to have a game during school...

Helloooo Doug! It's good to see you too <3 I truthfully hate NHL palyoffs, because the majority of my school are Toronto Maple Leafs fans and they are SO stubborn. My school is a "football in the summer" and "hockey in the winter" school. We have games during school for both sports. Our Athetic Council plans spirit days for both and you can buy tickets to get out of class for three periods, food, bandanas, pom-poms, tattoos, face paint, hair spray dye. It's a freaking sports school. I dunno, maybe the hockey-"ness" comes from being in Canada, but who knows.

Oh, speaking of Canada....Canada for the WCOH all the freaking way! :evil: :cool:

Some of my friends are obsessed with hockey, I'm not a huge fan, but it sure is fun watching people getting beat up. :lol:

Rofl, I love fights. 'Specially when the gloves and helmets come off. Rawr.

[~oSiRiS~]

I wish my High School had a hockey team. We tried to get one but they kept telling us no.

[NeuroComp]

international play is so much better. But you do need to see the nit and grit of the game sometimes.
GO canada 3-0 in the WC and lets hope RUS wins tonight to take HOME away from the US.

[~oSiRiS~]

You know. I always prefered to not have home ice during the playoffs.
I like to start a series on the road.

[DougJohnston]

Some of my friends are obsessed with hockey, I'm not a huge fan, but it sure is fun watching people getting beat up. :lol:

In my area, there's a youth hockey league thing, and my friend is just begging me to try out with her. I would, except I'm playing soccer right now, which is the closest sport (that I know of) to hockey. People get beat up all the time. My friends have some awesome bruises! Oops, anyway, the hockey league is in-line hockey. I'd be more interested if it was ice-hockey, though.

Go for it :tu: The one advantage would be if you try for roller and make it, it wont be nearly as expensive as Ice hockey so if you dont like it and want to quit you wont be broke :lol:

Helloooo Doug! It's good to see you too <3 I truthfully hate NHL palyoffs, because the majority of my school are Toronto Maple Leafs fans and they are SO stubborn. My school is a "football in the summer" and "hockey in the winter" school. We have games during school for both sports. Our Athetic Council plans spirit days for both and you can buy tickets to get out of class for three periods, food, bandanas, pom-poms, tattoos, face paint, hair spray dye. It's a freaking sports school. I dunno, maybe the hockey-"ness" comes from being in Canada, but who knows.

Oh, speaking of Canada....Canada for the WCOH all the freaking way! :evil: :cool:



Rofl, I love fights. 'Specially when the gloves and helmets come off. Rawr.

:lol: Yes...the fights are awesome... I wish my school was into hockey like yours is...we are just a football school and while I love football it gets old. You guys have WAY more school spirit than we do!

[x Natalie x]

:lol: Yes...the fights are awesome... I wish my school was into hockey like yours is...we are just a football school and while I love football it gets old. You guys have WAY more school spirit than we do!

Feel free to trek up to Canada (or some direction) and play for my school. We'd be un-freaking-defeated then ;) We've got some pretty snazy jerseys too.

[DougJohnston]

Feel free to trek up to Canada (or some direction) and play for my school. We'd be un-freaking-defeated then ;) We've got some pretty snazy jerseys too.

Haha, I wish I could come up to canada...Its too hot down here. Our school's club team has some real nice jerseys, its cool to have the actual patches and stuff instead of glued on plastic :lol:

[x Natalie x]

Haha, I wish I could come up to canada...Its too hot down here. Our school's club team has some real nice jerseys, its cool to have the actual patches and stuff instead of glued on plastic :lol:
Come soon so you can say that you're country won the WCOH. Hahaha.

We have patches too. The girls varsity team has their names on the bacl of theirs, but the guys don't and I have no idea why.

[DougJohnston]

Come soon so you can say that you're country won the WCOH. Hahaha.

We have patches too. The girls varsity team has their names on the bacl of theirs, but the guys don't and I have no idea why.

Whoa! Hold up! You have a whole girls JV/Varsity hockey team! Thats crazy! You must have millions of players up there. There are only like 10 girls in the whole league down here. Thats really cool :tu:

[x Natalie x]

Whoa! Hold up! You have a whole girls JV/Varsity hockey team! Thats crazy! You must have millions of players up there. There are only like 10 girls in the whole league down here. Thats really cool :tu:

Yeap. It's a fairly large team too, and very talented. We play against a lot of different school in our district. I wouldn't say a million, but there quite a bit. Very hockey-ish area. We have two guy's teams (Junior and Senior) and one girl's (Varsity).

[DougJohnston]

Yeap. It's a fairly large team too, and very talented. We play against a lot of different school in our district. I wouldn't say a million, but there quite a bit. Very hockey-ish area. We have two guy's teams (Junior and Senior) and one girl's (Varsity).

That is so awesome! I think im going to move to Canada :lol: All of the girls I have ever played against have been very good players and were quite physical. They didnt get pushed around, they were tough!
Its too bad at my school because most of the time nobody even knows we have a team while we are very talented and fun to watch.

[x Natalie x]

That is so awesome! I think im going to move to Canada :lol: All of the girls I have ever played against have been very good players and were quite physical. They didnt get pushed around, they were tough!
Its too bad at my school because most of the time nobody even knows we have a team while we are very talented and fun to watch.

Sa-weet :p My friend can't really get physical because she's the goalie and she's so petite like me. But she's got a lot of muscle.

I've gotta go to bed now :blush: Haha. It was great talking to you again Doug :D

G'night <333

[DougJohnston]

Sa-weet :p My friend can't really get physical because she's the goalie and she's so petite like me. But she's got a lot of muscle.

I've gotta go to bed now :blush: Haha. It was great talking to you again Doug :D

G'night <333

See you later Natalie! Hope to see you soon!

[hfirebirds]

Hi everyone i am new to this thead and new to the whole site in general, but my friend dougjohnston told me about this thread and i love hockey i play almost every day. so I just wanted to say hey and i will talk to everyone later.
hfirebirds

[DougJohnston]

Hi everyone i am new to this thead and new to the whole site in general, but my friend dougjohnston told me about this thread and i love hockey i play almost every day. so I just wanted to say hey and i will talk to everyone later.
hfirebirds

Hey Brett! Good to see that you got the registration process worked out :clap:

Does anyone know when the next game is on?

[hfirebirds]

Hey Brett! Good to see that you got the registration process worked out :clap:

Does anyone know when the next game is on?
Doug the next game we can watch would be tomorrow at four(arizona time), there is another game earlier in the day but we would still be at school. The game at four is the USA against Russia.

[DougJohnston]

Doug the next game we can watch would be tomorrow at four(arizona time), there is another game earlier in the day but we would still be at school. The game at four is the USA against Russia.

Okay sounds great! Thanks a lot :tu:

I hope US can pull it together and come out with a win :D

[FoxyKnoxy]

Hi guys I'm back! :p

Recap:
Russia 5 : Slovakia 2

Right now in the third period: Finland 1 : Germany 0

Tuesday Sept.7 Games:
Sweden vs Czech Republic 1:00pm EST ESPN, CBC
USA vs Russia 7pm EST ESPN2, CBC

Wed. Sep 8 Game:
Canada vs. Slovakia 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2, CBC

[~oSiRiS~]

Welcome back!!!!
Please keep me updated on the game.
My satilite dish doesn't get CBC and my attenna is not hooked up :(

[hfirebirds]

What is cbc? Is it just a channel that plays alot of hockey?

[~oSiRiS~]

Its the Canadian Broadcast Channel.
That and curling.:elaugh:

[DougJohnston]

Its the Canadian Broadcast Channel.
That and curling.:elaugh:

Haha, I think curling is kind of cool...I wouldnt really consider it a sport though, it seems more like a game to me :lol:

[~oSiRiS~]

I like to watch it as well.
Some day I am going to give it a try.

[FoxyKnoxy]

Update:
Finland 2 : Germany 1
The Finns are the first team to advance to the semfinals!

Mon, Sep 6 Germany vs. Finland 1:00 PM EDT CBC

[~oSiRiS~]

Good stuff, Thank you for the update!!!

[hfirebirds]

Haha, I think curling is kind of cool...I wouldnt really consider it a sport though, it seems more like a game to me :lol:
thanks osiris!:)
Curling is fun i have played it before. Its hard but fun. Hockey is way better though

[FoxyKnoxy]

hfirebirds
Curling is fun I have played it before. Its hard but fun. Hockey is way better though
Actually I have to disagree with you there! I love hockey, don't get me wrong, but I love curling more! Curling is a game that is not only interesting to watch but is better if you play!


Interesting "Facts" About Curling:
It is cheaper to play than hockey and less equipment to use or wear.

Tournaments are fun and a great way to meet people.

curling is less violent but there is a lot of swearing and cursing! :lol: (trust me!)

If you slip and fall on the ice in curling you are mearly laughed at, slip in hockey and you will be blamed for a missed oportunity to score.

After winning the Stanley Cup, players drink beer out of the cup, in Curling players drink beer after every end! :rotfl:

In Canada, if your not watching Hockey then your probably watching Curling! (or if you don't grow up playing hockey then you probably curled!)

With two guys scrubbing the ice in front of a big rock with giant toothbrushes, who can resist!?!

Curling has teams of four which means: Four on Four Action!

So you weren't a good hockey player as a kid. You took up curling. Well, who's laughing now? Actually, it's still them!

Remember, Canadians are the best darn curlers in the world. Boy, that's something to be proud of. :evil:

You lost. Who cares? You're not here to win! You're here to get loaded! Doubles all around! Remember, the more you drink, the bigger the circle looks! :p


Note: Hockey is a great sport but curling is also a very strategic game that is very interesting to watch or play. If you have an opportunity: give Curling a chance!

[hfirebirds]

lol thanks for the interesting insight! i have played curling but i prefer the physical play of hockey.

[DougJohnston]

Curling is way cool but I'd have to agree with Hfirebirds on that one... but anyways I wish I had satellite or something so I could see some more of the World Cup games played but all that has been on lately is football and baseball...

The only curling I have played is online...It was a cool game...Let me see if I can find the link for you guys :tu:

EDIT: Here you go...
http://curling.lapoo.nl/

[katiekake]

Hey, did you all hear about Brett Hull? He apparantly doesn't think that playing hockey is fun anymore. The link is on the msn webpage.
http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2962206

[DougJohnston]

Hey, did you all hear about Brett Hull? He apparantly doesn't think that playing hockey is fun anymore. The link is on the msn webpage.
http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2962206

Jeeze...:huh: I would like to hear more about that... Maybe what he means is along the lines of players not just playing for the love of the game anymore, everything is about money. I bet he still likes hockey, like the pond hockey he probably played back in the day

[~oSiRiS~]

I wonder if it has anything to do with the Wings not resigning him this season.

[hfirebirds]

He has to still have love for the game, if you are that good and you are almost in your fourty's you have to still love it. He could easily retire now and be remebered as one of the greatest players to ever live. He has enough money to last him a lifetime, so i think he is still playing cause he loves it!

[x Natalie x]

Its the Canadian Broadcast Channel.
That and curling.:elaugh:

Haha, you're funny.

:td:

[~oSiRiS~]

Well they do also show episodes of Mr. Bean.

What other sports do they play on CBC besides hockey and curling?

[x Natalie x]

Well they do also show episodes of Mr. Bean.

What other sports do they play on CBC besides hockey and curling?

The Olympics.

[~oSiRiS~]

Well besides that. Do they play Baseball?
I remember seeing Canadian football at some point.

I really prefer watching sports on CBC rather than ESPN when they are televised on both.
ESPN's announcers are quite annoying.

[x Natalie x]

Well besides that. Do they play Baseball?
I remember seeing Canadian football at some point.

I really prefer watching sports on CBC rather than ESPN when they are televised on both.
ESPN's announcers are quite annoying.
I don't really know. I don't watch much TV, except CSI and Canadian Idol.

[~oSiRiS~]

Same here.

It sucks I have to work tomorrow and I won't be able to watch the USA vs Russia game.

[DougJohnston]

Same here.

It sucks I have to work tomorrow and I won't be able to watch the USA vs Russia game.

I've got school tommrow...we get out at 2:40 so I will be home in time to watch but knowing me I will probably forget or will be doing homework from a few weeks ago :lol:

[FoxyKnoxy]

When the newspaper told him fans might be interested in the story, Hull said, "I don't give a ---- about the fans anymore."
Well doesn't that just spell it out for us? What an ingrate! There are thousands of young hockey fans out there just dying to have the chance to play in the NHL and he is whining about it? What a loser! To say such a thing about your fans is down right rude and selfish! Doesn't he realize that the fans pay for his salary? What a spoil sport! :td:

In my books, Hull has always been a traitor and a loser! He is playing for the USA? He was born in Canada for peet sakes!(Birthplace: Belleville, Ontario) :grumble:


Questions/Poll:
What do you guys think about the number of teams in the NHL?

Do you think there are too many for the league to sustain itself?

Do you think the league should expand again into new cities?

Do you think the smaller market teams should be made into 'farm teams'?

What teams do you think the league could give up to stay afloat?

[~oSiRiS~]

I think that they should not make anymore teams.
I wish we(as in Detroit) could play some teams like Toronto more than once a season.
I think that the league is fine with the teams it has. Some teams that I would get rid of arent that good of a choice because of tradition but who needs three teams in that small of an area of NYC.

[DougJohnston]

Questions/Poll:
What do you guys think about the number of teams in the NHL?
I think it would be a lot more fun if there were less teams like back in the old days where you knew everything about everyone and there werent a million new names you have never heard of.
Do you think there are too many for the league to sustain itself?
Yep :td:

Do you think the league should expand again into new cities?
No...

Do you think the smaller market teams should be made into 'farm teams'?
Yeah, That would make play more exciting and there wouldnt be as many "blowouts"

What teams do you think the league could give up to stay afloat?
Im not really all that sure...

-Foxy would you like me to add you poll to the first post in the thread?

And about Brett, a big :td: for him and his comment..

[FoxyKnoxy]

DougJohnston
Foxy would you like me to add you poll to the first post in the thread?
Sure go ahead! I would like to know what more people thought about the NHL situation and perhaps with more imput we can generate some really good methods of imrpovement for the league!


What do you guys think about the number of teams in the NHL?
Way too many! There are 30 teams now and that seems to have made the NHL too big to sustain itself. Many teams are losing money and sky rocketting player sallaries aren't helping maters much!

Do you think there are too many for the league to sustain itself?
Absolutely!

Do you think the league should expand again into new cities?
Heck NO! Unless it is an expasion team in Canada! :tu:

Do you think the smaller market teams should be made into 'farm teams'?
Yes and No! This has worked sort of in other situations like with the NFL and CFL (Canadian Footbal League) for example. Six years ago, the CFL made a deal with the NFL to sort of act like a 'farm team' division where the NFL kicked in some money to keep the CFL afloat. Then NFL could have access to CFL players who were entering their option years (the added year that allows the team to decide whether it wants to bring back the player) or whose contracts expired by the traditional date of Feb. 15.

In essence, the NFL could clean the CFL's carcass for talent well before the NFL season ended and bodies galore could be had via free agency and player cuts. But this has cost the CFL of some great tallent wasted down south (ex/ quarterback Ricky Ray -just cut from NY Jets, last year won the Grey Cup for Edmonton Eskimos) and now that the CFL's finacial situation is much better, I am sure this deal won't be lasting much longer. :huh:

What teams do you think the league could give up to stay afloat?
For me I would either get rid of entirely or move the Atlanta Thrashers, Florida Panthers, Carolina Huricanes, Columbus Bluejackets, Nashville Predators, and the LA Kings. :sigh: To move these teams, I mean move them back to where they belong: to CANADA!!! There is a reason why Hockey is our national pasttime, we adore hockey and will support it to the end! I mean come on these teams are in places that don't even know what snow is for peetsake! :grumble:

[DougJohnston]

Okay, I put the poll questions up. :tu:
I've got to go though so I will see you all tommrow. Dont forget about the world cup game :D

[Bmonk]

Questions/Poll:
What do you guys think about the number of teams in the NHL?

Do you think there are too many for the league to sustain itself?

Do you think the league should expand again into new cities?

Do you think the smaller market teams should be made into 'farm teams'?

What teams do you think the league could give up to stay afloat?

Less teams, would make the games more interesting with more of the better players on the same team.

I agree its hard to make money if some of the teams are losing it

No!

They should be expelled because they ovbiously arent interesting enoough in the area

Carolina, Flordia (they have tampa and florida) San Jose, Anaheim (California doesnt need 3 teams) Pittsburgh, Washington Capitals.

[hfirebirds]

thanks doug NOT

[FoxyKnoxy]

Update:
Czech Republic 6 : Sweden 1 :wow:
Note: Czech Republic will play the winner of the Canada/Slovakia game (they play tommorow)

Tonight:
USA vs Russia 7:00pm EST ESPN2, CBC
Note: The winner here will take on Finland in the semifinals

[hfirebirds]

Well doesn't that just spell it out for us? What an ingrate! There are thousands of young hockey fans out there just dying to have the chance to play in the NHL and he is whining about it? What a loser! To say such a thing about your fans is down right rude and selfish! Doesn't he realize that the fans pay for his salary? What a spoil sport! :td:

In my books, Hull has always been a traitor and a loser! He is playing for the USA? He was born in Canada for peet sakes!(Birthplace: Belleville, Ontario) :grumble:


Questions/Poll:
What do you guys think about the number of teams in the NHL?

Do you think there are too many for the league to sustain itself?

Do you think the league should expand again into new cities?

Do you think the smaller market teams should be made into 'farm teams'?

What teams do you think the league could give up to stay afloat?


1. There needs to be less, 16 sounds good.
2. Yes
3. NOOOO
4. Yes, it wouldnt be right just to get rid of the teams
5. Coyotes and Panthers for sure

I am excited for the game in like 30 minutes:) GO USA!!

[DougJohnston]

5. Coyotes and Panthers for sure

I am excited for the game in like 30 minutes:) GO USA!!

Haha, the truth hurts...the coyotes always have played horrible though. They really need to get it together. They have been knocked out of the first round of the playoffs every year.

The USA game is starting!

USA SCORED!

[hfirebirds]

doug what channel espn2 or espn

[DougJohnston]

doug what channel espn2 or espn

Right now the second period is starting, its channel 32 (Espn2 I think)

Good game so far! Go USA!

[hfirebirds]

thanks

[emily105]

I hope Canada wins in the World Cup or whatever it's called (I like hockey, but I prefer going to the local games rather than watching it on TV, though the occassional broadcast is fine with me). I'm glad that Canada beat the Russian team on Saturday - YAY! I hope Canada wins against the U.S. :evil:

[hfirebirds]

yes US goal
2:54 into second period
Tkachuck from Guiren

[DougJohnston]

Keith gets his second goal of the game! Go USA!

The first goal was awesome, a backhander from the top of the circle and a deflection that trickled through the goalie's legs

[hfirebirds]

Canada cant beat the US in the finals they could meet in the semifinals.(i am pretty sure i am right but if in one knows better let me know)

[DougJohnston]

Does anyone know the final score on the USA-Russia game? When I left Keith Katchuck (spelling) had scored his second goal of the game. I thought USA played much better and their passing looked good. They had many great scoring opportunites :tu:

[FoxyKnoxy]

Update:
USA 5 : Russia 3

The Americans will play Friday night at Xcel against either Finland or the Czech Republic. That matchup will be cemented after Wednesday night's Canada-Slovakia game in Toronto.


Third Period Scoring:
5, Russia, Dainius Zubrus 2 (Alexei Yashin, Darius Kasparaitis), 0:36
6, United States, Scott Gomez 1 (Keith Tkachuk), 4:25
7, United States, Keith Tkachuk 4 (Bill Guerin, Mike Modano), 4:47
8, Russia, Ilya Kovalchuk 1 (power play) (Sergei Samsonov, Alexei Kovalev), 11:04
9, United States, Keith Tkachuk 5 (empty net) (Mike Modano, Brian Rafalski), 19:05

[DougJohnston]

Update:
USA 5 : Russia 3

The Americans will play Friday night at Xcel against either Finland or the Czech Republic. That matchup will be cemented after Wednesday night's Canada-Slovakia game in Toronto.


Third Period Scoring:
5, Russia, Dainius Zubrus 2 (Alexei Yashin, Darius Kasparaitis), 0:36
6, United States, Scott Gomez 1 (Keith Tkachuk), 4:25
7, United States, Keith Tkachuk 4 (Bill Guerin, Mike Modano), 4:47
8, Russia, Ilya Kovalchuk 1 (power play) (Sergei Samsonov, Alexei Kovalev), 11:04
9, United States, Keith Tkachuk 5 (empty net) (Mike Modano, Brian Rafalski), 19:05

Thanks a lot! Wait...so did Tkachuk have 4 goals?!

[FoxyKnoxy]

DougJohnston
Wait...so did Tkachuk have 4 goals?!
Yep! He scored once in the first period, once in the second, and twice in the third.

1 Keith Tkachuk (Mike Modano, Brian Rafalski), 11:20
2 Keith Tkachuk (Bill Guerin, Mike Modano), 1:56
3 Keith Tkachuk (Bill Guerin, Mike Modano), 4:47
4 Keith Tkachuk (empty net) (Mike Modano, Brian Rafalski), 19:05


Remember Todays Game:
Canada vs. Slovakia 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2, CBC


Go Canada Go!!!

[Lilly Evans]

As a native of Slovakia, I am a fan of our Slovak Ice Hockey team. Especially since we won the World Championship in 2002 I think it was. Yeah, good times...My favorite player is Peter Bondra. I know that he play for a team in the NHL, just don't know the name. Oh well...

[FoxyKnoxy]

Lilly Evans
As a native of Slovakia, I am a fan of our Slovak Ice Hockey team. Especially since we won the World Championship in 2002 I think it was. Yeah, good times...My favorite player is Peter Bondra. I know that he play for a team in the NHL, just don't know the name. Oh well
Peter Bondra played for many seasons for the Washington Capitals. Last year the Capitals traded him to the Ottawa Senators.

[Lilly Evans]

Oh, cool. Heard he broke his arm, so he's not playing at the World Cup, which means we have no chance. Also, Zigmund Palffy is also not playing, so that's a setback as well. I'm not really following the World Cup, we don't have satellite, anyone know how we're doing?

[FoxyKnoxy]

Lilly Evans
Oh, cool. Heard he broke his arm, so he's not playing at the World Cup, which means we have no chance. Also, Zigmund Palffy is also not playing, so that's a setback as well. I'm not really following the World Cup, we don't have satellite, anyone know how we're doing?
Well tonight Slovakia is playing Canada in the Quarterfinal match. Who ever wins this game will move on to the semifinals and go up against the Czech Republic. It should be a great game.

Slovakia has to improve on its scoring because the last time they played against Canada, they lost in a 5 to 1 score!

[Lilly Evans]

****. I told you, it's because our best players are not there! Oh well, are you from Canada?

[FoxyKnoxy]

Lilly Evans
****. I told you, it's because our best players are not there! Oh well, are you from Canada?
Yep! Born and raised in the middle of Canada! Not much to do here but watch hockey :lol: I'll keep you updated on todays game ok! To be quite honest, I think out of all the teams playing this year in the World Cup, Canada seems to be the powerhouse team this time around. I would have thought the USA would have been playing better but they haven't done so well. I am hoping for a Finland vs Canada final my self now that Sweden has been knocked out of the competition.

[Lilly Evans]

Thanks. Good luck, even though I hope we win. But I doubt that that will happen, so good luck.

[DougJohnston]

Yep! He scored once in the first period, once in the second, and twice in the third.

1 Keith Tkachuk (Mike Modano, Brian Rafalski), 11:20
2 Keith Tkachuk (Bill Guerin, Mike Modano), 1:56
3 Keith Tkachuk (Bill Guerin, Mike Modano), 4:47
4 Keith Tkachuk (empty net) (Mike Modano, Brian Rafalski), 19:05


Remember Todays Game:
Canada vs. Slovakia 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2, CBC


Go Canada Go!!!

Thank you! Its really appreciated :D

Thats amazing! What a game he must have played :wow: I havent really heard much about him point wize over the last few seasons. Since he was traded from the coyotes, I havent bothered to check on his stats.

Im torn... GO USA GO! or GO CANADA GO! :sigh:

[hfirebirds]

Game about to start, i am excited:) Go Canada

[DougJohnston]

That stick in the face that Lemiux got was pretty bad. It didnt do any damage but If I was playing in the NHL I would have a half-shield. Your eyes are so important to everything in life, I wouldnt want anything to happen to mine as I have nearly lost my vision once before. :scared:

[hfirebirds]

Ya but the half sheild doesnt help all that much because alot of the time it can get pushed into your nose and cut you. Besides a stick is coming up so it isnt going to help if the stick is coming from the ice.

Goal 1-0 Team canada.
Lecalvier(spelling?) from richards

Goal 2-0 Canada,
Lemiux(spelling?) from Iginla, and Sakic

Goal 3-0 Canada
Smyth from Lecalvier and Heatley

Goal 4-0 Canada
Sakic from Iginla and Lemiux

[DougJohnston]

Wow. Lots of scoring in this game. I feel bad for Slovakia, nobody likes to get beat and have it rubbed in their faces with all these goals :sigh:

I just wish things could be a bit more equal and fair for both the teams.
I havent even seen ANY of the goals because I've been so busy with homework :lol:

[hfirebirds]

They have been really nice goals. Lots of passing

[FoxyKnoxy]

Update:
Canada 5 : Slovakia 0

Note: It has been confirmed that the U.S. will take on Finland in the first semifinal Friday in St. Paul (Fri., Sep.10 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC) and Canada will face the Czech Republic Saturday in Toronto (Sat., Sep.11 6:30 PM EDT ESPN2,CBC)

[hfirebirds]

Great game for canada cant wait for the semifinals

[DougJohnston]

So about the violence in the NHL...It seems that players are getting a bad rap because of a couple things that have aired on the news whether it be a stick in the head or a cheap shot etc. They make it out to seem like nothing but a big brawl. How does everyone feel about fighting in hockey? I think that its just part of the game and makes it really exciting. I dont actually fight myself because we get suspended and get it trouble, plus, I don't let my temper get the best of me and don't let people get under my skin.

How does everyone view these things?

[SwordofHope]

Hockey Rules! Your right hockey isn't just a brawl. But players like Todd Bertuzzi ruin the reputation of the sport. that hit to Moore was the most cowardly hockey hit I have seen.

[DougJohnston]

Hockey Rules! Your right hockey isn't just a brawl. But players like Todd Bertuzzi ruin the reputation of the sport. that hit to Moore was the most cowardly hockey hit I have seen.

:welcome: to the thread :lol:
Couldnt agree with you more. It was a horrible thing that he did whether he meant it or not. The people that don't understand the sport just read the headlines and get the wrong impression. Anyways, if you are going to fight, fight like a man, dont come up and tackle someone from behind like that.

[SwordofHope]

:welcome: to the thread :lol:
Couldnt agree with you more. It was a horrible thing that he did whether he meant it or not. The people that don't understand the sport just read the headlines and get the wrong impression. Anyways, if you are going to fight, fight like a man, dont come up and tackle someone from behind like that.

Yeah. Hockey makes headlines when something nasty happens. People often say football is tough while hockey is just all out violence. And that is flat wrong. When Ricky Williams was found to use drugs everyone didn't call football players drugies. People just seem to be anti hockey and that is a shame because it is a great sport.

[DougJohnston]

Yeah. Hockey makes headlines when something nasty happens. People often say football is tough while hockey is just all out violence. And that is flat wrong. When Ricky Williams was found to use drugs everyone didn't call football players drugies. People just seem to be anti hockey and that is a shame because it is a great sport.

Yep, and I really like Ricky Williams :lol: Anyways, you can't judge a book by its cover and the same goes for atheletes and sports too.

[~Tonks~]

I have no idea why I like hockey. But one day I realized I did. It's fast paced and takes a lot of athletic stamina. It's the only sport I'll stop on when channel flipping. I don't understand all the rules or strategies but I find it interesting. I also am pretty amused by the fact that we usually beat Canada at their own national sport. :rotfl: And who can deny it, I like it when the fights break out too.

[SwordofHope]

yeah.Ricky was just a great running back. he very well could have broken records.

The Greatest players of all the other sports are looked better upon as well. Aaron, Jorden, Rice, Mariono,Elway, Sanders are far better known then Gretzky. Gretzky had 4 out of ESPN's top 25 records. FOUR! Theres be like Mike but no be like Wayne.
P.S. Jorden did rule,but so did Gretzky.

[DougJohnston]

I have no idea why I like hockey. But one day I realized I did. It's fast paced and takes a lot of athletic stamina. It's the only sport I'll stop on when channel flipping. I don't understand all the rules or strategies but I find it interesting. I also am pretty amused by the fact that we usually beat Canada at their own national sport. :rotfl: And who can deny it, I like it when the fights break out too.

Tonks! My buddy :D Im glad to see that you are a fan too! Stamina is a huge part of hockey. I run a lot when I go to the gym so that I'm not gasping for breath out on the ice. That was my main problem when I first started playing, I got tired very quickly. Its so much different from stop and go sports like football.

[SwordofHope]

Tonks! My buddy :D Im glad to see that you are a fan too! Stamina is a huge part of hockey. I run a lot when I go to the gym so that I'm not gasping for breath out on the ice. That was my main problem when I first started playing, I got tired very quickly. Its so much different from stop and go sports like football.

Yeah. Goalies are out on the ice all game and some are always getting shot on (Dunham)

[DougJohnston]

Yeah. Goalies are out on the ice all game and some are always getting shot on (Dunham)

Yep, they have to be moving back and forth across the crease, playing the puck, up and down from the ice. When it comes to stoping pucks they need quick reflexes too, and in all that padding!

[SwordofHope]

Hockey is the most physically demanding sport I know of. Baseball takes less energy Dido with Football and basketball. So Hockey is vastly under-rated.

I really hope there is a 2004-2005 season.

[FoxyKnoxy]

Remember:
Fri, Sep 10 SEMIFINAL!!!
Xcel Energy Center, St. Paul
United States vs. Finland 7:00 PM EDT ESPN2, CBC


As for violence in hockey, well I think it is part of the game and has been for so long that I coudn't imagine not seeing fighting in a game. I can't stand cheap shots and hits from behind because the players know better to do such hits and know will well the physical implications that could follow such a shot.

I like fighting if warrented as it relieves tension and frustration. I don't like guys who go out of their way to intentionally hurt another player and then make it out after that he didn't meat it to happen when you know he did.

[DougJohnston]

As for violence in hockey, well I think it is part of the game and has been for so long that I coudn't imagine not seeing fighting in a game. I can't stand cheap shots and hits from behind because the players know better to do such hits and know will well the physical implications that could follow such a shot.

I like fighting if warrented as it relieves tension and frustration. I don't like guys who go out of their way to intentionally hurt another player and then make it out after that he didn't meat it to happen when you know he did.

Yep, fighting for no reason is just stupid. Back in the day, my dad used to go to the farm league games but he just got so fed-up with people dropping their gloves right off the opening face offs that he left and hasn't watched them since.

[SwordofHope]

Yep, fighting for no reason is just stupid. Back in the day, my dad used to go to the farm league games but he just got so fed-up with people dropping their gloves right off the opening face offs that he left and hasn't watched them since.

Fighting has formed what is hockey today though. Do you remember Claude Lemiux's hit on (Can't remember who) that defensemen for Detroit. It started what very well could be the best (or worst) rivarly in hockey.

[DougJohnston]

Fighting has formed what is hockey today though. Do you remember Claude Lemiux's hit on (Can't remember who) that defensemen for Detroit. It started what very well could be the best (or worst) rivarly in hockey.

I'm not exactly sure about what you are reffering to but I'm sure FoxyKnoxy knows...she is the hockey godess of the forums, she knows all! :drool:

[hfirebirds]

The intimidators or the fighters on the teams that go out and look for fights are very important to have on a team. They are the sparkplug for the team. If the team is loseing by a goal or two the coach will send them out there to get a big hit or get in a fight, it pumps the team up!

[DougJohnston]

The intimidators or the fighters on the teams that go out and look for fights are very important to have on a team. They are the sparkplug for the team. If the team is loseing by a goal or two the coach will send them out there to get a big hit or get in a fight, it pumps the team up!

I understand what you mean but going out on the ice just to fight seems stupid. Laying somebody out with a hard hit is always awesome and it really gets into the game.

[hfirebirds]

The coach is usually the one that sends the player out to fight so they dont have much of a choice

[DougJohnston]

The coach is usually the one that sends the player out to fight so they dont have much of a choice

Yeah, thats true, you do what you have to do in order to play.

[hfirebirds]

lol yes u do

[DougJohnston]

About doing what you need to do to stay on the team and so on, I can't remember who it was, but I knew a guy who was huge and all his coach wanted him to do was fight and he got sick of it. All he did was fight and sit in the penalty box and so he quit. He wasn't getting to play the game the way he wanted so he said forget it and thats what I would do in his place too.

[hfirebirds]

ya thats true, maybe he wasnt that good so his coach didnt need him in other situations

[FoxyKnoxy]

SwordofHope
Fighting has formed what is hockey today though. Do you remember Claude Lemiux's hit on (Can't remember who) that defensemen for Detroit. It started what very well could be the best (or worst) rivarly in hockey
Ah now that brings back some good ole memories! :evil: That occured back in 1996 (I remember this because that was the year I started to get into hockey and I was a big Av's fan at the time). Red Wing Kris Draper was standing against the boards, trying to get onto the bench at the end of his shift, when Lemieux charged him and barreled into him from behind, jamming his neck and face into the boards. The result? Draper had a face full of serious contusions, a broken nose, broken jaw, and was lucky to escape without a broken neck that could have crippled him.

After that happened, the whole game wnet down hill (as did the next one) with total bench-clearing brawls. Their rivalry has continued but not to that extreme anymore. I remember after that hit, both teams were fighting and then Patrick Roy and Mike Vernon went at it. I had never saw a battle like that before in hockey that included the goalies fighting in it too! :wow:

DougJohnston
I'm not exactly sure about what you are reffering to but I'm sure FoxyKnoxy knows...she is the hockey godess of the forums, she knows all!
Thanks for the complement! :blush: I just really know my TV history and am a total geek! :D

DougJohnston About doing what you need to do to stay on the team and so on, I can't remember who it was, but I knew a guy who was huge and all his coach wanted him to do was fight and he got sick of it. All he did was fight and sit in the penalty box and so he quit. He wasn't getting to play the game the way he wanted so he said forget it and thats what I would do in his place too.
Well that is a shame as I think it takes away from the game and the players abilities. Some coaches think having a big goon squad is the way to go as to intimidate the opposing team with their size and physical strength. But they should realize that sending players out just to cause fights or instigate things, might backfire on them as their own player may get injured in the process.

I don't know the stats off hand, but I believe that the rates of players having concussions while playing hockey has drastically increased over the years and has greatly affected the NHL. It has seen some great tallent get injured and not be able to fully recover and never play again at times. For example: Eric Lindros, Pat LaFontaine, Michel Goulet, Paul Kariya, Geoff Courtnall, Brett Lindros, Steve Moore, and many others. I think things need to change in the NHL to stop this kind of stupid and preventative behavior or more good players will be leaving the NHL for good. :sad:



Update:
:wow: USA 1 : Finland 2 :clap:
What An Upset!!! This is the first time ever Finland has ever made it to the finals! Way To Go! I couldn't believe USA lost after being up 1 to nothing. They were the defending champs and they are now out of it. Wow!

Don't Forget Tomorrows Game:
Czech Republic vs. Canada 6:30 PM EDT ESPN2, CBC

[Actaion]

As a native of Slovakia, I am a fan of our Slovak Ice Hockey team. Especially since we won the World Championship in 2002 I think it was. Yeah, good times...My favorite player is Peter Bondra. I know that he play for a team in the NHL, just don't know the name. Oh well...
Well our chaps will have to lose against japan if they want to lose me as a fan, and as for our player palfy he's a right mess of himself, doesnt go anywhere because "his doctor adviced no", gets in a fight with his girlfriend and she beats him...

[Actaion]

...sorry accident

[DougJohnston]

Does anyone know when the next world cup game is on? All that I have seen on TV lately is football.
Thanks :D

Actaion-be careful not to double post so that you don't get in trouble :tu: If you need to add something just click the edit button