Triwizard Tournament boring?

[Jaded_Wanderer]

Hey - did a search, can't find anything on this, merge/move/close this if u want to, yada yada yada......Anyways, i'm just rereading the HP series, & I'm up to book 4, just before they go into the maze. There's a lot of fuss made regarding all the contestants' families arriving & being allowed to watch the task, sitting in the stands of the quidditch pitch, etc....Well, if all that stuff like Fleur being stunned by Krum who was being controlled by "Moody" - WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY NOTICE?! I mean, if they couldn't see all this happening, what were they there for - to just sit in the stands & talk among themselves for 2 or 3 hours? And there can't have been a commentator or else they would have seen everything happening. I realise I'm probably missing something simple here, but if anybody'd care to enlighten me I'd really appreciate it. Thanx. :)

[Morgan LeFay]

Yeah, good point. I've always thougth that sittings are over the pitch, so people could see the players. It means that they could see the champions over the walls of maze. But if they couldn't, what the hell were they there for? Watching the hedge for an hour or more?

[Prof.Aze]

Hey you got me thinking there queengumby. :D

I think the parents are there for moral support. They are there to get them the wisdom to win the tournament. I think that's their point of going there. Because if they can see what's happening there. Fleur's parents should have told DD that it was Krum who stunned her in the controls of fake moody. :)

[Murtlap]

I wondered about this too when I read the book again - it does seem a bit strange to imagine them all sitting there staring at a hedge for an hour or two.

[Flobberworm]

Hmmm, that's a good point. I never really thought about that before. I assumed that everyone was somehow sitting over the maze so they had a bird's eye view of the maze. But then you're right, queengumby, someone should have noticed Krum being controlled by the fake Moody. The same thing would probably be with the 2nd task then. The people in the auidence just be staring at the lake for an hour.

[Constant Vigilance]

The spectators could only see the first task. I think JK Rowling made a little slip with this. Second and third where big events but you could only see the start and finish. The she-chieftain of the merpeople had to tell the judges about Harry's performance in the second task. You could maybe hear the screaming in the maze during the third task. This is actually a pretty scary possibility for the audience. What's going on? Why Harry does not show up? Is he dead? So it might not have been boring. I read two Fanfics in The Sugar Quill exactly on this topic. Arabella has "On Dry Land", that's a description of the second task from Ginny's POV and (if I'm not wrong) Hermione Queen of Witches Book Four (same author) has a chapter on the third task where the spectators also don't get to see, only to hear. They are fun!

[HannahStarr]

I don't think that anyone could see what was happening in the maze, which is why Ludo Bagman was doing the commentaries (er..it was him, wasn't it?). As someone said, the families were probably there for moral support, since this was the task that determined who won.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

I had wondered this myself, actually going so far as to creat my own thread about his already. You can find it h- . . . wait, where is that thread? It's not here anymore. Must have been deleted when the spoiler policy was lifted. Why, I do not know.

Anyway, the consensus on my thread was that the students could NOT see what was happening, but that the reason they were there was one, they would rather be there than in the stands, and two, they really want to know who won, even if it took an hour of waiting. Plus, they could see the sparks if someone got hit. A few theories were proposed to better explain this, including possibly there was a Marauder Map-type display board that showed where everyone was. Of course, however, it would only show the champions - there would be too much of a jumble of all the people in the crowd (thereby making it so Moody/Crouch wasn't scene). This display board might also have been used in Task 2, we thought. However, there was no consensus about this topic - some people, including me, thought that there was no display board of any sort. Hope this helps you out.

[EndlessDreamer]

I like the display board idea, and on it could have been marked all the dangers they had to get past. hmm that would have been interesting

[Jaded_Wanderer]

Hmmm....some interesting ideas. I like the idea of the board - in theory...but I think if it was used, we would've heard about it. For some odd reason it didn't even occur to me that the specators wouldn't have been able to see the 2nd task :banghead: sorry i've doubled up on your thread, too, hesdead-dealwithit (& congrats on ur 1000th post!)...I'm guessing this'll be closed now, but thanx for all your ideas, everyone :)

[Alcina]

Hmmm....some interesting ideas. I like the idea of the board - in theory...but I think if it was used, we would've heard about it.

I'm pretty sure there wasn't a board or other way of showing what was going on, as I'm convinced the only reason that the Dark Lord used this convoluted method of kidnapping Harry was that everyone would assume that his disappearance was a result of something going horribly wrong in the maze, whereas DD at least would probably have guessed that the Dark Lord was involved if Harry had just vanished within Hogwarts without trace. Anything that would have made people aware that he vanished when he touched the cup would have made the whole complicated plot pointless...and there must have been some sort of point to this much effort!

I figure the crowd was just there to do the cheering when someone won.....

[Dan_lover]

I know what would the point be to go watch water for an hour! I would get sorta bored! Maybe there was a Mardauers map like thing like you said. it seems to make sense. But you would think that JK would mention it. How else would the judges score them?

[miri]

How far away does Imperius work from? If Moody was controlling Krum and made him attack Fleur, who's to say he couldn't have done it from the stands?

I personally don't see what's wrong with the plot *ensure Harry wins the TWT and touches the port-key. Use his blood then kill him*. I don't think it's at all easy to tell where a port-key take somebody, and it would throw the world into a panic very quickly - it was a major event!

I think it's perfectly possible that they could see into the maze.

[[Pretty]_[Unicorn]]

Good point but I agree with whoever said that the parents and whoever was there were only there for moral support and to see the winner of the Tournament. The inside of the maze was described pitch black so even if the students and parents in the stands could overlook the maze, they wouldn't be able to see inside of it.

Maybe there was a spell that wouldn't allow people to see inside of the maze to exclude cheating because the audience would be able to see what was coming up in the maze or where to go and tell HP or the other chosen contenders what to do.

[miri]

It's possible that the darkness was only visible (what a lovely paradox ;)) to the contestants, or that their lumos-lights made the event watchable - sort of like the board idea, but with them able to see the lights moving around in the maze.

I don't think they could have shouted directions - I got the impression no sound from outside the maze entered it.

[Windstar]

I don't think the spectator could see what was going on in the maze. Wouldn't they have gone into the maze when Harry and Cedric disappeared? Unless there were some sort of charm on it to prevent that from happening (a charm could also have been used to prevent the contestants from hearing any directions being shouted by the contestants. I don't remember reading if the contestants could hear the spectators....) But still, they would have known that Harry and Cedric had disappeared for a while. I think Dumbledore would have gone in after them if he had been able to see what was going on.

[miri]

I thought they had done. Enough people seemed to be crowding around when Harry came back and they'd have taken over a minute to get to them otherwise - longer because the more people jostling and trying to shove past, the slower the group moves.

[Windstar]

When Harry came back with Cedric's body, he came back at the edge of the maze. He could see the stands rising above him. Chapter 35 pg 671 GoF. It wouldn't have taken long for the people to get to him. I would think that the more important people would have been standing right at the entrance, therefore Dumbledore would have been right there immediately. But it did make it sound as though the stands were above the maze so they could see what was going on doesn't it?

[ajax]

I personally don't see what's wrong with the plot *ensure Harry wins the TWT and touches the port-key. Use his blood then kill him*. I don't think it's at all easy to tell where a port-key take somebody, and it would throw the world into a panic very quickly - it was a major event!

I think you're right, especially under the circumstances of "Moody" changing the cup into a port-key. Even if it was easy to trace, what proof would there have been of Voldemort's return? None. It easily could have been seen as a death eater revenge plot on Harry and bittersweet for the death eaters to have killed him at the Riddle house then sending his body back to Hogwarts. The boy-who-lived is dead, Voldemort's returned and noone's the wiser.

The brilliance of it lies in its simplicity. Like "Moody" said, the hard part was getting it all to come together to make sure Harry reached the cup first. Aside from that, it was rather simple. But then Voldemort foiled his own plan with his own arrogance.

[Windstar]

I, for one, am thankful that it didn't all go according to plan. I couldn't bear the series to end there!

That's the trouble with making plans, they never seem to work out, do they?

[hesdead-dealwithit]

That's the trouble with making plans, they never seem to work out, do they?
Not when it's Voldemort who makes the plans, it seems. (Although you have to give him credit - he did get Harry all the way to the cemetary: if LV wasn't so arrogant and just killed the whippersnapper, he'd have been invincible.)

[Windstar]

And that would have been the end of the story :upset:

[HannahStarr]

Actually, that's a good point, hesdead. I think LV's arrogance may come into play again in the next books... oops, better save this for the predictions thread! :D

[Leah_Jones]

who's LV?

[HannahStarr]

Lord Voldemort. Just a common abbreviation - it's quicker than having to write out "Voldemort." Sorry if I confused you :)

[histanegalad]

I thought the maze was in the quidditch pitch..? That would mean they could see over it. Although when I read that part, I was under the impression that they DID basically sit in the stands and chat for an hour or more. I dunno. :sigh:

[Gandalf_the_White]

The Family was there for the post victory festivities. I believe they are there kind of like when you watch sports nowadays and there parents are in the crowd. They wouldn't be bored, they would just be waiting for the kids to get out of the maze. That is why it was important that the Weasley's were there for Harry. I was wondering about the cup and the victory. After you win the cup, do they come and get you or do you have to walk back out with it. If so i would just wait at the entrance with a little stupefy.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

The Family was there for the post victory festivities. I believe they are there kind of like when you watch sports nowadays and there parents are in the crowd. They wouldn't be bored, they would just be waiting for the kids to get out of the maze. That is why it was important that the Weasley's were there for Harry. I was wondering about the cup and the victory. After you win the cup, do they come and get you or do you have to walk back out with it. If so i would just wait at the entrance with a little stupefy.
I think Bagman said it was the first to the cup. There's definitely a possibility that the Cup was always a portkey, and that Moody/Crouch just changed its final destination from right outside the maze to the graveyard. (That could also help explain why the cup returned to right outside the maze and not the center, although I personally have another idea.) Also, the way Cedric and Harry acted, it was whoever got the cup won, not whoever got out of the maze with it won. Otherwise they'd be dueling, wouldn't they?

[Windstar]

That's a good point. Why did the cup/portkey take Harry and Cedric back to the edge of the maze and not to where they started from? The other portkeys that were mentioned, always took them back to where they started from. Like when everyone took the boot to the world cup, when they all left, they were back on the hill where they started from.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

That's a good point. Why did the cup/portkey take Harry and Cedric back to the edge of the maze and not to where they started from?
There are two possibilities that I know of. One, the Cup was a portkey anyway and Crouch/Moody just stuck a trip to the graveyard in before the trip to the outside of the maze. We don't know how portkeys really work, so this is possible.

The other one is a little more unlikely, though it is a brilliant theory. At first it had me convinced, but then I thought it was a little too unlikely. Here it is:
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/why_cup.html

[Doggy]

Personally, I believe that you couldn't see into the maze; possibly just into it; but not far in. Because how gullible you are, if you see someone (ie Krum) shooting a spell at another contestant (ie Cedric) so that the person falls to the ground, a third person (ie Harry) making a hole in the hedge to help out; and doing so by shooting a spell at the first person (ie Krum) and making him fall to the ground; you'd start to wonder wouldn't you.

Fine; so there was no rule saying "no attacking others", but I have a feeling that you would think that the people were too eager to get to the cup to start blasting others out of the way.

Finally; as others have said before; the whole "family watching" thing was to support before and after the task.

[Windstar]

Now that would explain it! Great idea! I did wonder why they had to use the cup as the portkey. They could have used anything for the portkey at anytime during the book and yet they chose the cup. That had to be the reasoning behind it, that they would ALL come back and take over Hogwarts! Makes sense! :agree: :agree:

[Gandalf_the_White]

Well the theory about them coming back is a really interesting theory. The problem being that it is not exactly the perfect situation to portkey into. Yes, you do have the element of suprise. However after the department of mysteries we saw how inept some of the Death Eaters are and that is without the big time death eaters in Azkaban. Not to mention, in a way an argument against it is the fact that yes you are going to suprise an initial few. What happens when Hagrid, Snape, McGonagall, Dumbledore, Flitwick, and Madame Maxine realize what is going on. All sorts of mayhem would insue. Do you think that Nott, Goyle, and Crabbe's dad can defeat anyone of those people. Malfoy probably has some skills, MacNair probably can hold his own. That is about all that Voldemort would have. Nope I think he planned to kill Harry then have his body go back to Hogwarts were everyone would realize that Harry was dead. They would think it was a horrible accident. Only Dumbledore would know who done and what would be the good in him knowing really, the only chance they had at destroying Voldemort is gone(Voldemort doesn't know this though).

[Windstar]

LV coming back into the world at the maze would be quite a surprise! I can imagine quite a few shocked spectators. There would have been pandemonium! A lot of deaths I think. Would Dumbledore and LV had a showdown right then and there?

I wonder how LV really did plan on letting everyone know that he was alive and well (physically, not mentally).

[Gandalf_the_White]

I don't think he wanted to let them know. I think he wanted to get the giant, former death eaters and dementors back on his side first.

[Windstar]

So, then why bother making the portkey come back to the maze at all?

[purplehawk]

So, then why bother making the portkey come back to the maze at all?

Good question. Are portkeys usually round-trip or one-way rides?

As for intending to send Harry back dead, I'd have to say no chance of that being in the plans. Voldemort intended to feed Harry to Nagini. He said so in the dream Harry had before he looked into the pensieve and later admonished the encircling snake "Just a little longer, Nagini... " as he told his tale to the death eaters.

[Angora]

I like the idea of a display board. I think they might have mentioned if there was one though.

I also like the idea that the protkey was supposed to portkey to the outside of the maze but got interrupted. Maybe the thing the cup was origionally sitting on was rigged to have some fanfare or something to let everyone know that someone had won (which would expalin why everyone knew the winner had disappeared when they couldn't see into the maze).

The second challenge, I don't think it took that long. It was only a bit over an hour, and really, I don't think the students had much of a choice about watching it. Kind of like calling assembly. They had to go.

Part of the reason for going to the third task might just be that you want to know who won immediately. What else would you do? Sit in your room and read and hope someone tells you about it tomorrow? I don't think the students had too much of a choice about attending that one either.

Lastly, I don't like the theory about Voldemort planning to portkey back to hogwarts. Because he would have been portkeying into a place where he's surrounded and outnumbered. And he likes his life very much, so I don't think the first thing he would do after getting his body back would be to put himself in a possition where the outcome might be up in the air.

[BellatrixLeS]

Lastly, I don't like the theory about Voldemort planning to portkey back to hogwarts. Because he would have been portkeying into a place where he's surrounded and outnumbered. And he likes his life very much, so I don't think the first hing he would do after getting his body back would be to put himself in a possition where the outcome might be up in the air.

I couldn't agree more. Voldemort takes no risks.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

I couldn't agree more. Voldemort takes no risks.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Voldemort possessing the snake that bit Arthur Weasley? Isn't that a pretty big risk?

[nightingale]

Couldn't he have simply gotten out of the snake? I don't understand, why is that a risk? I'm probably missing something, like usual.

I think Voldemort likes to think he's taking no risks, that he has everything planned, when, in fact he is actually taking risks.

[MommaaLuna]

OotP, page 251, American version

"Look, you don't understand what it was like after it happened," said Hermione quietly. "You arrived bak in the middle of the lawn clutching Cedric's dead body....None of us saw what happened in the maze....We just had Dumbledore's word for it that You-Know-Who had come back and killed Cedric and fought you."

That sounds like no one knew what happened.

If the ministry really wanted to, they should have been able to trace the portkey. From what Lupin says in Chapter 3 of OotP, it sounds like they can, anyway. (page 51)

"Brooms," said Lupin. "Only way. You're too young to Apparate, they'll be watching the Floo Network, and it's more than our life's worth to set up an unauthorized Portkey."

Also, on page 129, it mentions a "Portkey Office" which makes it sound like you have to get permission to set up a portkey, and the ministry has some way of knowing whenever a portkey is used, and can tell if they haven't been authorized. Fudge just wants do discredit Harry, and knows that if he looks into the evidence, he'll prove Harry right.

[purplehawk]

Excellent post, :tu: :tu: :tu:

[Windstar]

So, they couldn't see what was going on in the maze. Only what happened after someone won the cup? :huh:

[leenielou]

I know that there is a thread called Thoughts on Cho Chang (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=12458&highlight=Cho+Chang) that is generalised about her character; however, this is a more specific question, and I'm sorry if there is a thread in existence but I did search for the words within it very carefully.

In Order of the Phoenix, chapter 16 "In The Hog's Head", Cho says something that I found very interesting:

"And that's not to mention," said Cho (Harry's eyes snapped across to her; she was looking at him, smiling; his stomach did another somersault) "all the tasks he had to get through in the Triwizard Tournament last year - getting past dragons and merpeople and Acromantula and things..."

Now, everyone knows the tasks Harry had to perform. Yet the third task took place within the confines of a maze, and it ended in tragedy, as we all know. We know that Harry and Cedric were confronted by a huge spider, which I take to be the Aramantula, but when Harry returned I doubt he would be in any fit state to tell of the things he faced within the maze. In fact, it specifically says within OOTP that he had not discussed the events of it with anyone, and was not eager to at all.

Which begs the question, how did Cho know about this? Even though he may have told Hermione and Ron, they are hardly Cho's friends, and Harry, as displayed in OOTP again, hardly talks to Cho himself, and when he does gets tongue-tied. So how did Cho know what Harry faced within the maze?

[Filius Flitwick]

Well, Harry couldn't hear the announcers upon entering the maze. Maybe, when every contestant had entered they gave a rundown of what the participants would be facing in the maze. Also, it seemed that the Acromantula was the last thing to face before grabbing the cup. If he grabbed the cup then he would have had to have got past the spider.

Of course, this is assuming many things.

[Mugsy]

I think everyone else could see what was happening in the maze from the quiditch seating. At least that was my impression.

[Silver_Vixen]

Mugsy makes sense. They DID grow the Quidditch field up into a maze, after all. It's believeable that there would be spectators in the stands watching. And who knows? Maybe even announcers. One will never truly know, will they? :cool:

[Adalbert Waffling]

That's what I was thinking Mugsy. I had just assumed that from the stands, the audience could get a partial view of the maze. I mean, the seats had to be about 100 feet high, right? And isn't the maze height 20 ft?

Though if they could see, don't you think everyone would have seen "Moody" attack Fleur? And Krum attack Cedric?

[Filius Flitwick]

I thought about the spectators just seeing it at first, but then I thought about the attacks on the other spectators. That's why I came up with my other theory. If they could see it all then they would have seen the attacks. Besides, if the maze wall was that tall, then for parts of it they would have to have been practically hovering over the center of the maze to see everything.

Of course, if they couldn't see everything then what would be the point of attending?

[leenielou]

But if the events were being announced, then surely the attacks should have been announced and the event would have been halted?

I too did not understand why spectators would be allowed if they could not see what was happening, but if they had actually seen and heard what was going on, then surely more people would believe Harry's version of events in GOF and that the Cup was a portkey?

As Hermione says in OOTP, all that anyone saw was Harry appear on the lawn holding Cedric's body (sorry, cannot find exact quote). This would imply that no one could see or hear events going on inside the maze?

[rmbakkum]

If we just forget the whole piont, how it's possible that Cho's know's. But what's your point. What were you trying to tell us. Cause I don't get the point... :$

Groetjes,

Roel

[SiriuslyBria]

My impression also was that the student body was watching what happened and so Cho saw it. If they couldn't see the various tasks there really wouldn't seem to be a lot of point in having students go outside to watch them.... perhaps students were just shown what the tasks were and then they stayed in the stands awaiting the results and didn't actually see the champions working to complete the tasks. Just a thought. It's been a while since I've read the scene, so I can't say much more than that at the moment.

[SilverStar]

Didn't someone say that they couldn't see what was going on? One of the students, I think?

[ParselTongue]

Seems the maze would of been enchanted to allow all those spectators to see he action. Otherwise it would be quite boring sitting around looking at the bushes on the quiditch field. Of couse if they could see, wouldnt everyone know Krum did Crucio on Cedric and Mad eye (crouch jr) put him under the imperious curse? From what ive gathered the imperious curse doensnt shoot any kind of light at them so maybe not, infact I dont think the crucious does either, at least not that we have heard of. Im ready to be corrected on those though.

[SilverStar]

I'm going to look it up...

[Bjornar]

You can't see everything at many auto races and people still go to those in droves. I think they could see part of the maze, otherwise what was the point of the whole tournament? I mean a competition with no spectators doesn't make much sense to me. I believe even if they didn't see it the details of the normal obstacles in the maze--portkeys to dark lords not included--would have been made known as they were only secrets to the participants before the event started.

Edit: i spell real good-like

[rotsiepots]

Well they obviously had to sneak an Acromantula in and out of the Hogwarts grounds. I doubt they did this without someone noticing.

Besides, Hagrid is dreadful at keeping secrets. If he was in charge of the magical creatures in the maze, he would have told the whole school what he'd put in there. :D

[koli]

I think everyone else could see what was happening in the maze from the quiditch seating. At least that was my impression.

i had that impression too, but i guess we were wrong? oh well. lol

[ErickGama]

I have no idea what you are talking about!

[Jessica]

Hermione says to Harry in Book 5 that they couldn't see anything that was happening in the maze.

If this is the case it seems likely that the thing wasn't announced either. (There used to be a thread somewhere about how this muct have been rather boring for the spectators :lol:)

But remember what happened is PS/SS. Somehow the whole school found out what happened under the trapdoor without being told.

Such is the power of gossip. After all, no one seemed surprised at Cho's "revelation" indicating it was already common knowledge.

[PLIMPY]

I also thought that the people could at least somewhat see what was going on maybe they used the fun binoculars that we saw the the Quidditch World Cup, i don't really know. As for fake moody, I sort of thought that the attacks weren't something that he went about obviously, I figured that maybe crept aboyut and did it, which wouldn't really explain why people didn't see him, or else he dissolusioned himself or made himself otherwise see-through or invisible. Although that doesn't really explain how the people didn't realize that the cup was a portkey, I mean how didn't people notice that they were gone for a period of time with the cup? What was supposed to happen when someone got to the cup so that everyone knew it was over and that someone had won? Now I have something new to ponder.

[ravenclaw02]

I don't think that the spectators could see into the maze, because then they would have seen old faux-Moody Stunning Fleur and Imperio'ing Victor to Crucio Cedric (phew, that was a mouthful!). Also, if the audience could see everything, there's a chance that they would "warn" the Champions what's going to come. Also, wouldn't it have been mentioned that Harry heard the crowd reacting to his tasks at some point?
In terms of Cho knowing that Harry faced an acromantula, I see one of two possibilities. One, it's like Dumbledore said at the end of SS, it was a secret, so naturally everyone in the school knew. Harry could've told Ron and Hermione, who said it in passing to Seamus or Dean or Lavender ... etc. Or, two, she could be refering to Aragog in their second year. It seems that some people knew about that.

[Venus_77]

well maybe Ludo Bagman announced it, while they were all in the maze

[Magi]

Perhaps it was enchanted so that only Bagman could see.

[Virtuousdream]

I originally concluded it was Bagman's commentry that allowed them to see what he was facing.

However, if that was the case, how come no one saw the Krum incident with 'Moody'? I have a feeling that no one could see what was going on, and Harry told the other gryffindors what happened, who told others, so Cho found out that way, or through Cedric's parents. Who knows?

[Nephel]

Hagrid was given the task of providing magical creatures to act as obstacles for the maze. He and the staff would have know which creatures were in the maze, and the students could just ask what the champions were gonna face.

[hedwig7]

I don't think that the spectators could see into the maze, because then they would have seen old faux-Moody Stunning Fleur and Imperio'ing Victor to Crucio Cedric (phew, that was a mouthful!). Also, if the audience could see everything, there's a chance that they would "warn" the Champions what's going to come. Also, wouldn't it have been mentioned that Harry heard the crowd reacting to his tasks at some point?
In terms of Cho knowing that Harry faced an acromantula, I see one of two possibilities. One, it's like Dumbledore said at the end of SS, it was a secret, so naturally everyone in the school knew. Harry could've told Ron and Hermione, who said it in passing to Seamus or Dean or Lavender ... etc. Or, two, she could be refering to Aragog in their second year. It seems that some people knew about that.

Wow this is quite a puzzling thread- I agree that if the spectators were watching they would have seen the drama in the maze, including the fake Moody's interference of the task, (unless Crouch used some technique to disguise his spellwork), and wouldn't have been able to warn the champions what was coming as Harry couldn't hear anything upon entering the maze. If they couldn't see anything though what would be the point of being 'spectators'?? Also, as some people have already mentioned, surely the teachers, at the very least, would've realized something was wrong when Harry, Cedric AND the triwizard cup disappeared - I would give a hottie to find out how everybody did react- especially Dumbledore and Snape. And... at Hogwarts, news does get around very fast so I'm not surprised that Cho knew and they others had no significant reactions. Thats my two knuts. :cool:

[super star]

I think Rowling has made a mistake. Because when Harry and Cho were at Hogmeade,
Cho cried because she said that Harry hadn't told her about how Cedric died but Hermione. She really didn't know about that,but how did she say those things?

[Camsin]

Sorry if there's another post on this, please feel free to delete this if there is.

I was wondering, all the audiences got to see was the first task, but the second task was underwater, and the third task was through a maze of hedges. The spectators wouldn't really see much apart from the first task, and they would have to wait there for hours. Wouldn't this be boring?
Is the Triwizard Tournament more boring than it is put out to be?

Post ur thoughts :)

[Mr Trix]

:gryff: well, to be fair, i think we are to assume that the spectators can see from very high up (in the quidditch pitch stands) so they would see everything from a birds eye view. In effect, they would see what was ahead of the competitors in advance, so having that hindsight would be quite exciting i would imagine. I mean, just think of seeing that huge spider before Harry and Cedric do and knowing they are running towards it. Wow. I do agree, however about the underwater task. The only thing i can think of is that there is a magic screen showing what is going on down there for the spectators to see. Sort of like superbowl, but a magic version. That's my assumption anyway. Perhaps the water is made super transparent when looking in from the outside, so there is poor visibility for those underwater, but clear as a swimming pool for people looking in. Personally, i am really hoping the Triwizard Tournament is done well in the movie. Lets hope the director knows what he is doing, and the CGI has improved a bit more since POA. Good thread! :gryff: :)

[Camsin]

I don't think they saw the third task, really.

Then they would've seen Fleur collapse for no reason, and Krum attack Cedric. They would've seen both Harry and Cedric disappear when holding the cup.

[Mr Trix]

Yeah, but i don't think the competitors couldn't hear the crowd, so even if the crowd did see all those things it would be of no consequence. Didn't everyone see Harry and Cedric dissapear via the portkey anyway? I could be wrong. I reckon the underwater task would of been the most boring to watch for the spectators! I reckon the third would of be amazing!

[Sugabeen]

Hmm, I'd assumed the audience hadn't seen the lake or maze tasks, they would have just been talking about it together. I like the idea of the screen...maybe they could hear the maze task?
i read an interview with Dan where he said he'd been filming the lake scene and he said it should be spectacular.

[Mr Trix]

I think the spectators could see and hear the maze task, but the competitors couldn't hear the crowd. I might be wrong.

Yeah, i saw that interview too. It is so cool to nkow that they are filming it, like, as we speak. I can't wait!

[DarkThunder]

Perhaps there are spells cast every few meters in the maze or the lake, and the spells show everybody what's going on down there...like a television + pensieve.

[Mr Trix]

It could work Dark thunder! I think the "superbowl magic screen" is probably the most likely of ways that the spectators would view the tasks.

[free_girl]

For the second task, maybe they had underwater binoculers or something. For the third task I think they held the maze in the qudditch field so the stands would have been pretty tall, I think I remember reading that the hedges were only 12ft. or so, so they audience could defiently see them down there.

[aggiefan1206]

I think that they will make the tasks pretty neat. I doubt it will be boring. But im just looking forward to the scene at the end and the whole jelousy thing between ron and hermione

[FarhanaK]

I think it would be exciting to watch the triwizard tournaments b/c you actually see it w/ your own eyes...but you would have to wait a little...