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potterfan300
April 9th, 2004, 7:08 pm
And not just Harry, all magical babies who grow up to be witches and wizards. Where are they born? St. Mungo's perhaps?
I have no clue where they would be born.
Any thoughts?

springthing4
April 9th, 2004, 7:15 pm
probably in st.mungo's, or just at home

Queen of Wise
April 9th, 2004, 7:36 pm
Well im not sure, but i think St. Mungo's is just a hospital for "magical maladies and injuries"??? Perhaps there is another hospital where babies are born...that would be a good question to ask J.K. if you ever get the chance :)

Baron_G
April 9th, 2004, 8:24 pm
Muggle clinics? I don't see the need for wizard intervention unless there's the danger of the witch doing uncontrolled magic while going through labour pains or the baby disapparating from the womb straight into the doctor's waiting arms... ;)

I bet wizards still use midwives!

Bee
April 9th, 2004, 8:31 pm
Perhaps St. Mungo's, since it's the only wizard hospital we've heard of, but there could be others that just haven't been mentioned.

Wizards do still use quills, parchment, the dead Latin language, etc... maybe they have an old-fashioned way of delivering babies, too, like just hiring a midwife and having it at home...

Queen of Wise
April 9th, 2004, 8:35 pm
Muggle clinics? I don't see the need for wizard intervention unless there's the danger of the witch doing uncontrolled magic while going through labour pains or the baby disapparating from the womb straight into the doctor's waiting arms... ;)

I bet wizards still use midwives!heh that would be kind of amusing to see! :laugh: I wonder if its possible for a baby to dissaparate though...since grown wizards have to be 17......Yea i could see a witch doing uncontrolled magic....seing as how Harry did at the zoo!

Pegasus
April 9th, 2004, 8:40 pm
I can't see wizards stepping foot inside a Muggle hospital. Remember Molly's reaction when Arthur and the "experimental" healer tried stitches? And Ron called Muggle doctors nutters.
People never stopped using midwives at home, hospitals just became the norm. Many people are going back to the "natural" method. With a "healer" nearby, I can't see a wizard needing an epidural, and that's really the main reason to have it in the hospital these days, anyway.

harryfantotheend
April 9th, 2004, 10:00 pm
I think that they have "mid-witches" or something.

P.S. I think this belongs in the common room :)


Happy Posting! :) :)

dobby_rocks
April 9th, 2004, 10:15 pm
I think they have mid wife as well. Id think that maybe muggle borns woudlnt have a problem going to a muggle doctor as that what they would have used their whole lifes praticle.

Id have to guess this isnt the only hospital wizardy in the UK, it may be the biggest one but surely they have some other smaller ones. Or if it is maybe we just didnt see the secetion of Births i mean what reason would harry and his friends have in that secetion of the hospital?

DarkMark90
April 10th, 2004, 12:15 am
Wow, I never really thought about it. Maybe they just appear out of midair? They probably go to a muggle hospital, although that may get kind of....well, confusing (for the muggles, that is).

HarryPotter
April 10th, 2004, 1:05 am
I think that's up to the parents... but I think in muggle hospitals mainly...

lxs234
April 10th, 2004, 1:51 am
Muggle clinics? I don't see the need for wizard intervention unless there's the danger of the witch doing uncontrolled magic while going through labour pains or the baby disapparating from the womb straight into the doctor's waiting arms... ;)

I bet wizards still use midwives!Lol, that made me laugh! :p I think they either have midwives, or there are other walk in clinics run by the magical community. I doubt every wizard would be able to fix a broken bone or something, so there has to be somewhere to go, just if you're sick.

harryfantotheend
April 10th, 2004, 2:00 am
Okay- I'm not saying that St. Mungo's is the only hospital- but lets not forget that there are many magical transportation "devices." Floo powder, apparating, or portkeys could get you to, lets say St. Mungo's at the time of labor. Lets go beyond labor, if you have a broken bone or a "magical malady" (spelling?) you could easily arrange transportation to even a far away clinic.
by the way- this is a very good "ask-jk-in-a-chat" question :) haha

happy posting! :)

hermeeownninny
April 10th, 2004, 2:45 am
Weirdly, I have thought about this. . . I bet wizards have them at home, with some kind of midwife. I bet they have spells to make labor painless. But with magic, do wizards (witches, I should say ;) ) even go through the same pregnancy and childbirth process that muggles do? I mean, biology is biology, but wizards can heal "muggle maladies" with magic, so do wizards have a shorter gestation period or something? This is definitely a question to ask JKR in a chat!

Have you ever wondered about wizard weddings? Where are they married? By whom? Wizards don't seem to be religious- they don't go to church, as far as we know, and Christmas and Easter are celebrated as secular holidays. I imagine some kind of magical binding ceremony- their souls are bound by magic to each other or something like that. Incidentally, do wizards have divorce?

gabby
April 10th, 2004, 3:52 am
I don't think that pureblood wizards would step foot in a muggle hospital. Some because of prejediuce like the Malfoy's. Others because they are not familiar with the Muggle world (besides what they learn in textbooks, ie Muggle Studies class). For example look at Arthur Weasley. He is facinated by them. He collects plugs and other stuff, but do you really think he had his children in a Muggle hospital?

Other wizards/witches that are part muggle may be more inclined to go to a muggle hospital. For example if a wizard marries a muggle, his wife would probably feel more comfortable having the baby in a muggle hospital, since that's the world she would be familiar with.

koli
April 10th, 2004, 6:42 am
Hm... St. Mungos didn't have a floor or section where babies were to be delivered. But maybe they would go to muggle hospitals. But do you think since emotions are running so high magic accidents would happen? Maybe there's a special place. Or they just did at home births w/ special healers?... i'll stop my rambling

Baron_G
April 10th, 2004, 9:06 am
Well since we will learn of the circumstances of Voldemort's birth, we only have to wait until book 6. Do bear in mind, his witch mother passed away then and I believe she was in the presence of muggles at the time.

On a lighter note, after bearing seven children Mrs. Weasley must now be capable of supervising her own births when it comes down to it, although I suspect the Weasleys are done having children. :) And have any of you heard about this - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4677630/?

rotsiepots
April 10th, 2004, 9:32 am
Obstetrics is only a relatively recent branch of medicine (the last 50 years, or so), so it's more than possible that most magical babies are delivered by midwives. Either that or someone just yells "Accio baby!" when the mother goes into labour. ;)

As for where Harry was born, I'd say Godric's Hollow. I was going to be controversial and say Azkaban, but we don't know enough about Lily to make that sort of inference.

RosePetal4ever
April 10th, 2004, 1:40 pm
I think that they might have them at home. People still do that today, so why not in the Wizarding World. But I don't think that St. Mungos is just for injuries and the like. I think in the Order of the Phoenix when they were in the hospital it was on the sign, but I'm not intirally sure and I'm to lazy to look!:p

potterfan300
April 10th, 2004, 7:53 pm
I guess I'd have to say the babies are born at home too.
But surely JK could think of a more ineresting answer if she was ever asked.
Wouldn't you think?

lxs234
April 10th, 2004, 8:00 pm
I guess I'd have to say the babies are born at home too.
But surely JK could think of a more ineresting answer if she was ever asked.
Wouldn't you think?There is of course the possibility that she never thought of that. I doubt she has every detail of the wizarding world in her head, like we all seem to think. It's up to us to just use our imaginations on some stuff.

potterfan300
April 10th, 2004, 8:09 pm
If JK was asked this question in a chat, I think she would have an answer.
But an interesting answer is a different story.

RosePetal4ever
April 10th, 2004, 8:09 pm
I totally agree with you on that one. That's why we are using our imaginations and saying what we think it is.

potterfan300
April 10th, 2004, 8:11 pm
Maybe there is a possiblity there is another magical hospital
I've never really thought about it.

Tinuviel
April 10th, 2004, 9:08 pm
I think there would have to be other hospitals, after all, Britain is a fair-sized country...


Accio baby! I love that idea!! Sure beats childbirth.....

Pegasus
April 10th, 2004, 9:12 pm
Oh, wouldn't it be lovely to not have to go through a full pregnancy and childbirth? Not that some of you would know... :lol:
I love the "accio baby"!

potterfan300
April 13th, 2004, 2:41 pm
Yes "accio baby" is very funny. Does anyone think that where Harry was born might be of importance? For example : Godric's Hollow?

potterfan300
April 13th, 2004, 7:46 pm
Everyone I talk to lately is convinced that Harry is the Heir to Grffyindor.
Well, if he was born in Godric's Hollow would that maybe be a clue that he is the Heir?

hesdead-dealwithit
April 14th, 2004, 12:07 am
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not at all convinced he's the heir of Gryffindor. I think, for one, it would have been included in Dumbledore's "I will tell you everything" speech.

purplehawk
April 14th, 2004, 12:14 am
Not necessarily, Dead. Dumbledore has yet to lay out to Harry all the weapons at his disposal in the final battle with Voldemort. The Gryffindor tie may come later.

ravenclaw02
April 14th, 2004, 2:21 am
Ok back on topic! I won't weigh in with my opinion on the whole Harry-heir thing.

I've actually often wondered this myself, how are magical babies born? Seeing as Mrs. Weasley had a rather adverse reaction to muggle stitches on her husband, I somehow can't see her letting a muggle doctor deliver her 7... Imagine how funny that scene would be! I hope that we get to see a pregnant witch in Books 6/7, to clear this all up. Seeing as Mrs. W's probably a little too old (her kids are 15-30, after all), maybe Fleur? Penelope? Mrs. Snape (should she exist)?

potterfan300
April 14th, 2004, 3:12 pm
I don't think we will see a pregnant witch in the future, though it would be funny.(Mrs. Snape lol lol lol) I don't think J.K. would put in something such as pregnancy. But who knows she has suprised us before, but where was Harry born just kind of bothers me. Where WAS he born?
Any thoughts???

OmarGama
May 11th, 2004, 3:42 am
I think that they are born on the hospital like normal paople.

ravenclaw02
May 11th, 2004, 4:58 pm
I'm going to weigh in again and say midwives. Perhaps there are wizard equivalents of Lamaze classes where they learn spells to birth the baby? There are a million possibilities ... I do definitely think that someone should ask JKR this in a chat/letter/whatever ... it's probably not that important, but it would be interesting to know.

Drusilla
May 12th, 2004, 4:57 am
I don't think Harry could have been born in a Muggle hospital,especially as Voldemort was after him at the time,and Dumbledore would never have allowed someone so important to the fight against the Dark Side to be exposed to the risk of having Voldemort or a Death Eater find him in the Muggle world-remember Fudge's warning to Harry in PoA not to go wandering of into Muggle London?It was because he wasn't as well-protected there as he was around wizards (except at 4 Privet Drive),and the same would probably have applied to him as a baby.Besides,Lily Potter was also a full-fledged member of the Order of the Phoenix,and they couldn't have risked her getting hurt or killed in a Death Eater attack.Wherever Harry was born,it was most probably in the wizarding world-whether it was Godric's Hollow or not is debatable.

DarkSen
May 12th, 2004, 5:14 am
he must have born in his own house then???...but at dat time the order doesn't hav a secret meetin place like in 5th book, do they?

FloydTheBarber
May 12th, 2004, 4:29 pm
Maybe he was born in St. Mungos. Perhaps they have a delivery wing ?

KatieJoy
December 5th, 2004, 3:35 am
I did a search (even searched entire posts!) and nothing came up.

So the discussion on pure bloods/half bloods/mud bloods, got me thinking... When a witch gives birth to a baby does she go to St. Mungos for it to be delivered? I've listed the floors at St. Mungo's, and can't figure it out. Do they go to a muggle hospital? Does a healer come by the house like a midwife? Or do witches (excuse the pun) just magically give birth to children?

Ground Floor: Artifact Accidents
(Cauldron explosion, wand-backfiring, broom crashes, etc.)

First Floor: Creature-Induced Injuries
(Bites, stings, burns, embedded spiders, etc.)

Second Floor: Magical Bugs
(Contagious maladies, e.g., dragon pox, vanishing sickness, scrofungulus)

Third Floor: Potion and Plant Poisoning
(Rashes, regurgitation, uncontrollable giggling, etc.)

Fourth Floor: Spell Damage
(Unliftable jinxes, hexes, and incorrectly applied charms, etc.)


Fifth Floor: Visitor’s Tearoom and Hospital Shop


Any thoughts?

dorcasderr
December 5th, 2004, 3:40 am
Isn't St. Mungo's for magical MALADIES? Pregnancy is not a malady, so I imagine that magical babies are born elsewhere.,,,perhaps at home with a witch-midwife.

KatieJoy
December 5th, 2004, 3:45 am
I totally agree with the maladies part... pregnacy isn't a malady, but in the muggle world, we go to hospitals for babies to be born, and the only hospital we know of in the magical world is St. Mungoes...

Chandra
December 5th, 2004, 3:47 am
I'm not sure where the babies would be born, but I doubt it would be in a muggle hospital. The Weasleys (with the exeption of Arthur) don't seem to have a lot of respect for Muggle medicine in the St Mungos scene, and I doubt witches would trust the delivery of their babies to muggles.
I'd say it's most likely that there is a magic clinic somewhere where witches go to give birh.

Rapunzel
December 5th, 2004, 3:56 am
Just because St. Mungos is the only hospital Harry has heard of (yet), doesn't mean it's the only magical hospital in London (or elsewhere).
Were there any children at St. Mungos?
Maybe there is a magical women & children's hospital.

LunaGoldstein
December 5th, 2004, 4:32 am
It seems like in the wizarding world, babies would be born at home with the help of midwives. Seeing as the magic world is old-fashioned about alot of things us muggles take for granted, it seems natural that birth wouldn't be the medicalized procedure it is here. And also midwives (or would they be midwitches?) just seem more like a magic profession anyway, I presume it would be a subset of Healers.

kenmarekestrel
December 5th, 2004, 4:38 am
I'd probably say that they have a magical version of mid-wives who come in and help deliver the baby and perform painkilling spells. Other than that they would just have a network of female relatives and friends to help like they did in the old days. I doubt the husbands would help like they do today. :)

faeryobsessive
December 5th, 2004, 9:53 am
I would think they would go with the classical midwife, but have some sort of intervention just in case. I also have seen satistics out of European countries that unlike in America Midwives attend 75% of births. I am sure most of these are in hospital setting, but still. I think they would go with that tradition.

Kimmetje
December 5th, 2004, 10:18 am
On this subject I agree with Rapunzel.

It might be like in the old days. Like when I was in Savannah they had a special hospital for men in the early days so there might be a special hospital for woman & children. I think that that seems most logical; that there is another hospital specialised in getting babies and woman. I think there are also midwives ofcourse.

JofpGallagher
December 5th, 2004, 11:09 am
Isn't St. Mungo's for magical MALADIES? Pregnancy is not a malady.
You will be surprised how many people in this board believe that pregnancy is worst than a malady...

Anyway, I agree with everyone that thinks there must be other institutions yet to be mentioned in the magical world where magical people have their babies. By the way, I'm sending this to the History of Magic Forum.

Magi
December 5th, 2004, 11:26 am
I agree with the mid-wives idea.

St Mungo's seems to deal with accidents and illnesses. Although some people might consider pregnancy to be an "accident", it generally isn't. ;)

anabel
December 5th, 2004, 11:46 am
Since distance is not an obstacle when travelling by magic, it would be enough with just one maternity clinic for the whole country. For the same reason, you wouldn't need many magical midwives - even if two or more women were giving birth at once the midwife could Apparate between them. The wizarding world doesn't differentiate between doctors and nurses, so a midwife would be a healer who has specialised in pregnancy and childbirth. I definitely can't see them going to a Muggle hospital, although I have a mental image of Voldemort's mum, abandoned by her husband and rejected by her pure-blood family, giving birth in the nearest Muggle hospital before dying and leaving little Tom to be raised in a Muggle orphanage. This image is probably polluted by Oliver Twist, but the situation was similar (abandoned single mum dies leaving baby in orphanage).

icklek
December 5th, 2004, 8:30 pm
Can you imagine a witch giving birth though? A lot of women tend to become....less than fond...of their husbands/partners whilst they're in labour (what with it being "all their fault" that they're in this condition), plus we know that wizarding folk can do uncontrolled, wandless magic in times of fear, pain or stress - now combine the two and imagine what state the husbands end up in during the delivery....poor guys....

Psycho
December 5th, 2004, 8:34 pm
:)
lol, but i daresay they have blocking spells if they see it in time and also that maybe some of them accidently get hexed on the way home when they hear about the baby so they can't be in the room in time :p

anabel
December 5th, 2004, 8:37 pm
Can you imagine a witch giving birth though? A lot of women tend to become....less than fond...of their husbands/partners whilst they're in labour (what with it being "all their fault" that they're in this condition), plus we know that wizarding folk can do uncontrolled, wandless magic in times of fear, pain or stress - now combine the two and imagine what state the husbands end up in during the delivery....poor guys....I don't like to think what I would have done if I had been a witch! Let's just hope that magical pain relief is far more advanced than the Muggle sort, or the midwife's job would be more to protect the other people in the room than anything else! (Forget my husband, I would probably have blown up the imbecile midwife who attended my son's birth if I could!)

Psycho
December 5th, 2004, 8:40 pm
lol, you still could say the thing about muggles and guns and stuff :p
You never know, maybe witches can control themselves better during labor or something, still some evul pple would probably hex their husbands enywayz so they would be used to it :evil:

Jinxie Cat
December 6th, 2004, 12:43 am
Yeah, I do agree that St. Mungo's doesn't seem to be the right place for babies to be born. A magical touch on the mid-wife thing might be what they do.

I don't think Harry's seen the whole of the wizarding world yet and I doubt we'll encounter it all in the last remaining books so it's definitely possible that there's Wizarding hospitals out there for pregnancies... etc.

Miss ERB
December 6th, 2004, 1:11 am
I'm guessing at home..they have magic so its not like they need a doctor or "healer" handy.

Spencer28
December 6th, 2004, 1:16 am
It would problably be done at home. One good pain free spell and your good to go.

sirusvilla
December 6th, 2004, 3:12 am
I would have to agree that it doesnt seem logical that babies are born there. As some other people said, it is for magical maladies and injuries. Not to mention, it isnt beyond the realm of reason that wizards have a slightly less, um, strenuous method of giving birth. But hey, you never know

Gwenog Jones
December 6th, 2004, 3:14 am
I'm sure there is other hospitals that Harry just has not heard of. However, I think that they are probably born at home, maybe with the help of a mid wife.

Of course, muggle born wizards are born in normal hospitals, like Hermione :)

sirusvilla
December 6th, 2004, 3:15 am
you've got to wonder if there are any other wizard hospitals. I mean there are a ton of muggle ones.

XanFan
December 6th, 2004, 3:37 am
I made myself laugh with this idea:

Ok, wizards can apparate, right? And they must be able to apparate with other items, or else they'd jump from place to place without any clothing. :blush:

So, could a pregnant witch simply apparate into a bed to feet away, and leave the baby where it was? Bingo! :birthday:


Sure a lot more painless than the method *I* used. Ouch!

Ok, I'm just being silly. Sorry.

I do think the midwife using magical herbs and such is much more likely. Wizards don't seem too big on hospitals. Even Hogwarts only needs a wing and Madam Pomfrey.

prince_21_84
December 6th, 2004, 4:53 am
I would think that there is a different hospital for that! although you might have thought that someone would have told harry where he was born by now! or someone may have mentioned something about it!

Barbara Kennedy
December 6th, 2004, 5:15 am
I just thought to check, and found this.

Where was Harry born? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=24926)

sirus_fan
December 6th, 2004, 7:11 am
I think they would have used midwives at home too. There was a child, at least one at St Mungos. It was a little girl in the reception area, she was floating like she had been filled with helium and being held, by her father, by her foot.

anabel
December 6th, 2004, 10:01 am
A nice potion for painless childbirth would be great! They probably have the magical equivalent of a caesarian too, in case things go badly.

On another note, I wonder whether the staff on a Muggle maternity ward notice anything strange about magical Muggleborn babies? Some of them may already have some uncontrolled magic, after all ...

Norbertha
December 6th, 2004, 10:32 am
Maybe they use "accio baby" and pull it out? :p Or maybe they transfigure it to something small that's easy to get through? Just kidding. :p

I imagine that the more Muggle-orientated witches might give birth in a Muggle hospital. There is nothing magical about a birth. Of course, then they can't use magic to help the birth... hm. :Norbertha successfully crashes her own argument:

The idea with Wizarding midwives sounds plausible. Maybe it was mentioned in one of the career brochures that Harry, Ron and Hermione didn't read?

rotsiepots
December 6th, 2004, 11:30 am
Maybe they use "accio baby" and pull it out? :p
I was just thinking that myself. The process of birth would be much easier if the baby just flew out without any effort.

Anyway, the "medicalisation" (yes, I'm aware that isn't a word) of child birth is a phenomenon of the last 50 years. Prior to this, midwives were the primary caregivers to pregnant mothers. Somehow I can't imagine magical obstetricians, so I'm going with the majority and backing the midwife idea.

shaggydogstail
December 6th, 2004, 1:50 pm
I think witches go through the same sort of pregnancy as muggle women, they're not a different species or anything!

I liked the idea of "Accio Baby", until I remembered that summoning spells don't transport objects through solid barriers (eg George and Fred's brooms leave big holes in Umbridge's office door) So I think Accio baby would just cause the baby to tear throught the mother's stomach (though some births do feel a bit like that!) Maybe their is a special form of apparation spell for childbirth?

They probably have midwitches or specialist healers either at home or a maternity hospital. And I'm sure that magic must make childbirth alot easier - if only offering better pain relief!

Dark Arts
December 6th, 2004, 4:14 pm
The midwife idea goes nicely with the slight medieval feel of the books. Of course house calls would be much easier in the wizarding world due to easy travel methods and not having a lot of equipment to carry.
I would imagine some potions coming into play during the delivery and not all that much wand work.

I did find the accio baby line amusing. Lets hope Ron and Harry don't find themselves stuck on an elevator with a pregnate witch!

icklek
December 6th, 2004, 4:51 pm
The midwife idea goes nicely with the slight medieval feel of the books. Of course house calls would be much easier in the wizarding world due to easy travel methods and not having a lot of equipment to carry.
I would imagine some potions coming into play during the delivery and not all that much wand work.

I did find the accio baby line amusing. Lets hope Ron and Harry don't find themselves stuck on an elevator with a pregnate witch!

What if someone was walking past the door with a baby when "accio baby" was cast...? Which baby would be accio'd???

Dirty Pedro
December 6th, 2004, 5:07 pm
My older sister is actually a midwife, and a sort of Harry Potter fan. I've got to go with midwife, and can't wait to show her this thread later.

Psycho
December 6th, 2004, 5:18 pm
Yes probably Midwife, if there are say 50 schoolchildren in each year in england who are wizards/witches then you likely only need 2-3 midwives and probably could get away with one thanks to apparation. Also to make a spell for helping childbirth would mean experimenting with babies... I don't think it is likely :huh:

Mundungus Fletc
December 6th, 2004, 5:24 pm
I'd assumed they were delivered by magical storks just like muggle babies :huh:

Psycho
December 6th, 2004, 5:26 pm
ROFLMAO... You rule :rotfl:

Alfonzo
December 7th, 2004, 6:14 pm
I also agree with Rapunzel. There may also be ways of aiding delivery with magic - possibly pain numbing spells or quick-delivery ones? :lol:

Dark Arts
December 7th, 2004, 8:55 pm
I'd assumed they were delivered by magical storks just like muggle babies :huh:

LOL That was great!...wish I had thought of it

Following along this line of thought............
In which class do you think they teach about babies and where they come from?

or magical contraceptives? hhhmmm better not go there.....

Can you imagine Snape trying to teach a Sex Ed. class...

anabel
December 7th, 2004, 8:59 pm
LOL That was great!...wish I had thought of it

Following along this line of thought............
In which class do you think they teach about babies and where they come from?

or magical contraceptives? hhhmmm better not go there.....

Can you imagine Snape trying to teach a Sex Ed. class...
Or McGonagall! :rotfl: :huh: :rotfl:

Maybe Madam Pomfrey talks to them about it. Or maybe it is expected that they learn about "that sort of thing" at home. Or behind the broomsheds!

Emelis
December 7th, 2004, 9:38 pm
as a mother of an 9 month old, and pregnant mother of twins, i would LOVE 'accio baby'!!! epidurals are just not enough...

anyway, there are a few questions related to this that i've been wondering about. like, do wizards have sex? do they get divorced? do witch mommies get a big belly the normal way? do witches and wizards 'take care of themselves'? are there any homosexual wizards (probably, since dumbledore's own brother had inappropriate relationships with goats...)? are they magically able to do what /we/ can't even do with all our biological technology (ie, decide the sex of the baby, etc)? do witches menstruate?

anabel
December 7th, 2004, 9:48 pm
as a mother of an 9 month old, and pregnant mother of twins, i would LOVE 'accio baby'!!! epidurals are just not enough...Ooops! Good luck! It'll be hard but I'm certain you'll do fine!

anyway, there are a few questions related to this that i've been wondering about. like, do wizards have sex? do they get divorced? do witch mommies get a big belly the normal way? do witches and wizards 'take care of themselves'? are there any homosexual wizards (probably, since dumbledore's own brother had inappropriate relationships with goats...)? are they magically able to do what /we/ can't even do with all our biological technology (ie, decide the sex of the baby, etc)? do witches menstruate?I daresay they are just the same as Muggles in all those respects, but I really don't think JKR will take us there! :evil:

LunaGoldstein
December 7th, 2004, 10:12 pm
like, do wizards have sex? do they get divorced? do witch mommies get a big belly the normal way? do witches and wizards 'take care of themselves'? are there any homosexual wizards (probably, since dumbledore's own brother had inappropriate relationships with goats...)? are they magically able to do what /we/ can't even do with all our biological technology (ie, decide the sex of the baby, etc)? do witches menstruate?


lol obviously you haven't read enough fanfic :evil: But if certain fanfic were to be believed, then EVERYONE in the wizarding world is gay or bi and shtupping each other at every opportunity, and apparently males can get pregnant as well :rolleyes: I suppose gener switching is possible in the wizarding world, depending on how easy the spell is it might be something that everyone experiments with at least once to see how the other half lives.

There's quite a number of Snape-teaching-sex-ed fics, just go to riddikulus.org and search under "sex ed". I shudder to think at the possibilities of what diseases witches and wizards have to worry about.

Tane
December 7th, 2004, 10:24 pm
I think the babies are born in any hospital as there is no way of knowing that the baby from two muggle parents will be magical until it is born.

Holly is Short
December 7th, 2004, 11:25 pm
::looks around nervously::...uhhhh....do you mean like fairies and elves?...Because I certainly am not one!
But that floating girl with her father was certainly suspicous! If there are people like Nyphadora, then why not other kinds of "magical" people?

anabel
December 8th, 2004, 8:34 am
Baby Nymphadora in a muggle maternity ward??? Hope they put her identity bracelet on straight away! I don't think witches would want to give birth in a NHS maternity ward - well, given a choice I wouldn't either, come to think of it! There are magical solutions to most of the problems/issues that witches and wizards face and I'm sure magical midwives have great methods to ensure a painless and safe delivery.

Now, Hagrid's mum can't have gone to her local Muggle hospital, can she?

Norbertha
December 8th, 2004, 8:41 am
Maybe Madam Pomfrey talks to them about it. Or maybe it is expected that they learn about "that sort of thing" at home. Or behind the broomsheds!
My theory is that Madam Pomfrey first take the girls aside in first year, and teaches them a blood stopping spell, or blood soaking spell. Then she takes the boys aside in maybe fourth or fifth year and teaches them a Shearing Charm. And then, she'll take the boys and girls aside again in maybe fifh year too, and teach them about ... other things. :blush:

gryffin_hauz_88
December 8th, 2004, 8:45 am
I also think that it is the midwives who are going to the pregnant mother. I didn't saw a delivery wing at St. Mungos... but it's a great question, huh...:D:

anabel
December 8th, 2004, 8:51 am
Well, wizards are old-fashioned and it is only quite recently that babies have been born in hospitals at all. Before that there were private nursing homes or babies were born at home with the help of a midwife. I suspect that wizards don't count pregnancy as a magical malady, so they either have a separate maternity clinic, or the midwives travel home to the family.

icklek
December 8th, 2004, 10:01 am
as a mother of an 9 month old, and pregnant mother of twins, i would LOVE 'accio baby'!!! epidurals are just not enough...

anyway, there are a few questions related to this that i've been wondering about. like, do wizards have sex? do they get divorced? do witch mommies get a big belly the normal way? do witches and wizards 'take care of themselves'? are there any homosexual wizards (probably, since dumbledore's own brother had inappropriate relationships with goats...)? are they magically able to do what /we/ can't even do with all our biological technology (ie, decide the sex of the baby, etc)? do witches menstruate?

I don't see any reason why wizarding folk would be any different to Muggles when it comes to sex, babies, periods etc. They are human after all...


My theory is that Madam Pomfrey first take the girls aside in first year, and teaches them a blood stopping spell, or blood soaking spell.

I don't see the point in a blood stopping spell, periods are a pain but they are necessary, and I don't think witches and wizards would want to mess with the natural order of things...

anabel
December 8th, 2004, 10:05 am
I don't see any reason why wizarding folk would be any different to Muggles when it comes to sex, babies, periods etc. They are human after all...A wizard is a human with added magic. Biologically the same. But I expect they have some magical solutions to the problems involved.

I don't see the point in a blood stopping spell, periods are a pain but they are necessary, and I don't think witches and wizards would want to mess with the natural order of things...
In the summer holidays girls would have to use Muggle methods anyway, since they are not allowed to do magic outside of school.

Norbertha
December 8th, 2004, 10:19 am
In the summer holidays girls would have to use Muggle methods anyway, since they are not allowed to do magic outside of school.
That's a good point. But in the school year, they'll need magical methods, unless they stock up during the holidays...

dementorsekiss
December 8th, 2004, 10:29 am
I'd guess in ST. Mungo's or in a town hospital would be the most probable...

LilCubanita67
December 8th, 2004, 2:47 pm
They'd probaby be born at St. Mungo's. What if something magical happened during the delivery? How would you explain that to the nurses and doctors in the delivery room?

estival7
December 8th, 2004, 2:58 pm
hm, maybe witches do not give birth the normal way as humans. I mean they can magically expand the insides of muggle car the Weasleys had, so in that sense, they might be able to use magic to remove the labour pains experienced by muggles using a bit of modification.

sirusvilla
December 9th, 2004, 2:45 am
[QUOTE=XanFan]I made myself laugh with this idea:

Ok, wizards can apparate, right? And they must be able to apparate with other items, or else they'd jump from place to place without any clothing. :blush:

i have to say, although it is a strange and far fetched idea, this is one of the most brilliant nuggets of information and creativity that i have seen in recent times. :clap: well done xanfan, although it is a bit far fetched

Duskrider Q
December 9th, 2004, 3:47 am
Hi, everyone! I'm a newbee.

Baron G, the idea of the magical world still having midwives was one I used in my fanfic "The Augurey's Cry". Lily went through labor pains and her powers went haywire just like the follow up poster suggested. It just seemed likely since St. Mungo's wasn't mentioned to have a Maternity Ward and that we've seen wizards loose control of their powers when their emotional. I don't know if I should be pleasently suprised that were all on the same wave length, or disgruntled that my idea wasn't all that clever.

sirus_fan
December 9th, 2004, 7:01 pm
There is probably a spell specifically for birthing. A potion before, to calm and soothe and then a spell to pop that little puppy out. Must be nice... and painless.

I also don't see why witches wouldn't get big bellies just like muggles. As someone said (take a pat on the back someone), they are the same species after all.

Now, one last thing to add in my post, witches and wizards born from muggles are born at a hospital or whatever the mom would have done if the child was not magical. Duh...

anabel
December 9th, 2004, 10:41 pm
Baron G, the idea of the magical world still having midwives was one I used in my fanfic "The Augurey's Cry". The Muggle world still has midwives too. I see on TV that babies in the USA seem to be delivered by doctors, but in Britain the doctor is only called if something goes wrong. It is a midwife who is in charge of a normal delivery. There is a trend towards home-births with a midwife present as well.

Dagmar
December 10th, 2004, 1:38 am
Maybe the witches giving birth don't have to go through typicall pains as do muggles.

Norbertha
December 10th, 2004, 10:13 am
Maybe the witches giving birth don't have to go through typicall pains as do muggles.
Yes, maybe there's a potion that they can take that is more effective than the things muggles get.

Giebfried
December 10th, 2004, 12:23 pm
i dunno . . . maybe they're just born at home. (and we're all praying they know someone who can deliver babies!) i mean, that's what they did in the "old days", right? :p but i guess they could go to a hospital too, (st. mungo's) cause, well, it might be too much stress to do it the old fashioned way. anyway, they're born, and that's something, right? :tu:

esmerelda
December 10th, 2004, 3:03 pm
Maybe the witches giving birth don't have to go through typicall pains as do muggles.

Yes, maybe there will be a throw away line in one of the remaining books about how muggle women go through unnecessary pain. Giving birth will be on JKR's mind, after all. On second thoughts, maybe she'd prefer witches to suffer just as much!

Jordan
December 10th, 2004, 3:12 pm
Maybe the witches giving birth don't have to go through typicall pains as do muggles.


Yes, maybe there will be a throw away line in one of the remaining books about how muggle women go through unnecessary pain. Giving birth will be on JKR's mind, after all. On second thoughts, maybe she'd prefer witches to suffer just as much!

I think witches have the babies at St.Mungos, and they suffer just as much as Muggles. There are probably potions to cool things off though...
And anyway-God gave Eve the punishment of pain at birth. Harry Potter is already in a mess with religion-so taking away the punishment would be too much....!

XanFan
December 10th, 2004, 5:08 pm
And anyway-God gave Eve the punishment of pain at birth. Harry Potter is already in a mess with religion-so taking away the punishment would be too much....!

I'm going to be really careful, here, trying not to trod on anyone's toes, but, here goes.

Without getting into graphic detail, female mammals all give birth in the same way. (Except for maybe platypuses. I'm not sure about that, but anyway) Dogs, cats, deer, badgers, lions..... All involve a certain amount of pain and discomfort. (I have to imagine it's especially uncomfortable for the deer.)

I'm not sure that the birthing process is punishment for all those creatures.

I have lots of other things I want to say, but I will stop now, so I don't get into a war here, or worse, banned.

No, wait, I do have just one more. As a mother of two, I cannot imagine that the process that gave birth to my children was a punishment. They are a gift.

BlushingAnna
January 31st, 2005, 5:47 pm
I bet wizards still use midwives!

LOL! And boiling water!

zakrob
January 31st, 2005, 5:59 pm
Well, we know JKR used a midwife for the birth of her children, so it kind of makes sense that she would have her characters do the same. Although I'm sure magic midwives have some powers that muggle midwives don't.

anabel
January 31st, 2005, 11:47 pm
Nearly all British babies are delivered by midwives in hospital. The doctor only comes in if there is a problem. Wizards don't differentiate between doctors and nurses, so it seems logical to think there is a healer who specialises in childbirth.

spacecase
February 1st, 2005, 5:25 am
I haven't read all of the posts, but since we didn't really hear about a maternity ward, there might be a specific different place, or they have them at home. (I read that much to know that others agree). I'd say that some might go to muggle hospitals, but Mrs. Weasley was wary about the methods of muggle doctors, so probably not. Another thing...we haven't really seen a pregnant witch yet, have we?

Maybe, here's a crazy thought...they just shout "Accio baby!" and there's no pushing or waiting....
Wouldn't it be so convenient if babies were born with the ability to apparate, and when they're ready to be born, *pop* and then it's over??

It's late and I'm tired...

runitzandrew
February 1st, 2005, 5:36 am
Wizard parents probably give birth at St. Mungos. Muggle parents obviously give birth to children in their own hospitals with doctors since there isn't a way to tell if the child is magical or not until they're growing up. But then again, when Harry was reading the sign at St. Mungos it didn't have a floor for child birth, so there's a possibility that they are born in other places than St. Mungos that we don't know of.

Cheri
February 1st, 2005, 7:13 am
The Midwife idea sounds good. If I was a witch, and I was having a baby, I would rather use a midwife and be in the privacy of my own home. :tu:

The Pirate King
February 1st, 2005, 8:17 am
Maybe, here's a crazy thought...they just shout "Accio baby!" and there's no pushing or waiting....

hee! Wouldn't that be great? You'd expect wizarding families to have a lot more kids if it were that simple.

anabel
February 1st, 2005, 7:52 pm
hee! Wouldn't that be great? You'd expect wizarding families to have a lot more kids if it were that simple.Maybe Molly Weasley has a few good birthing spells up her sleeve! :huh:

_Lynz_
February 1st, 2005, 8:22 pm
I don't think they'd necesserally (sp?) need a magical hospital or anything. Muggle hospitals and clinics should be ok I think.

anabel
February 1st, 2005, 8:40 pm
I really don't see someone like Molly giving birth the Muggle way! Remember her reaction to Arthur's stiches? There must at least be a good pain-releaving spell they can use, and also some magic for emergency situations. I can't imagine someone who is used to magical solutions to every problem, going through an emergency caesarian or even an ordinary birth with just pathetic Muggle remedies!

mareesa
February 2nd, 2005, 2:32 am
Hmmm, can you imagine a pregnant witch flying on her broom to St. Mungos? Ouch! Or here's a corker: can pregnant witches apparate? I mean it's two bodies. We know they can't bring someone else along. YIKES! I will stop here; as I am wandering about splinching.
Floo, please, floo!
I bet Molly had her's at home.

tarachristwen
February 6th, 2005, 6:03 pm
isn't st mungos a hospital for magical maladies?i think muggle clinics and hospitals will be good enough.......

siriuslyinlove1
February 7th, 2005, 8:26 pm
I don't expect that pregnancy counts as a malady, and although I'm sure that some women would beg to differ, I don't think it qualifies for St. Mungo's Hospital for Magical Malaldies. I expect that witches use midwives or go to a magical hospital other than St. Mungos, or muggleborn witches could choose to go to a traditional muggle clinic. I bet that in OotP the pamphlet about being a Healer (Harry looked at it before he went to his careers advice with McGonagall) had info on it. Shame we couldn't get a look at it. As for sex, periods, pregnancy, etc., I am pretty sure it is the same for wizards as for muggles, after all, we are all human.

twiggles
February 7th, 2005, 8:57 pm
Using midwives at home would seem to make since especially since the speed with which people can travel in the wizarding world (floo powder, apparate). The process must be the same as wizarding children are born of muggle parents and I'm sure that no one carted mom off to St. Mungo's when she had never heard of real witches.
The home makes the most sense because wizards seem to value the past and not muggle advances (electricity, etc). They probably have spells to use for pain if the mother wishes, much like an epiderual. I can possibly see Mrs. Weasley going to St. Mungo's for the twins' birth as twins can often lead to a complicated delivery.

Flee From Death
February 8th, 2005, 12:56 am
I think I'm in the mid-wives at home camp here. I just can't see most witches deigning to grace a muggle hospital -- as everyone's pointed out look at Molly's reaction to stitches. And I can't see them, in the middle of all the pain of giving birth, remembering to act like muggles, either.

St. Mungo's, well it's just we didn't see a maternity ward, and going to the hospital is a pretty recent innovation. Unless they count pregnancy as a 'Creature-Induced Injury' :p

Padfoot_001
February 8th, 2005, 11:46 am
Its a good question, but unlike 'Flee From Death", I really can't see them NOT going through the normal childbirth procedure. I mean, what other way can it be done? I don't think they'd do cesarians (spelling may vary *ahem*) becuase thats too muggleish, but I think normal child birth would be the same.

kathphphphp
February 8th, 2005, 12:03 pm
I wonder if miscarriages happen?

spacecase
February 8th, 2005, 6:19 pm
If they do happen, they probably aren't talked about too much, kind of like in our world.

Flee From Death
February 8th, 2005, 7:54 pm
Its a good question, but unlike 'Flee From Death", I really can't see them NOT going through the normal childbirth procedure. I mean, what other way can it be done? I don't think they'd do cesarians (spelling may vary *ahem*) becuase thats too muggleish, but I think normal child birth would be the same.
I musn't have been very clear -- I do think they give birth normally (the 'creature' being the husband and the 'injury' being pregnancy). I can't really see caesarians happenning in the wizard world either; I don't think they usually just slice people open in the wizard world. In OotP Ron comments "Doctors? ... Those muggle nutters that cut people up?" (p533UK pbk) So it sounds as if that doesn't happen in the wizard world.

As for miscarriages ... I don't know. Wizards are much more resiliant to injuries (Neville bouncing, Hagrid's comment to the effect of 'A car crash couldn't have Killed Lily and James') so maybe their not injured as easily in the womb, and I could see wizards having potions for a lot of diseases that could harm babies. But that doiesn't mean they couldn't still happen, so I don't know.