Who Will fall in love with whom? v.42

[Ali]

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Now, discuss... :D

[angelzrfree]

oh wee first to post. Since I'm first I'd just like to say. Draco/Hermione forever.

[LilypadLollipop]

Finally, a new place to post

[angelzrfree]

Or was the part you guys wanted me to read say "We should all note that whilst we can know a lot from what we read, we do not yet know everything. Please keep that in mind"

[LilypadLollipop]

and since i'm one of the first... viva la Heron

[Melcb98]

Melcb98 it could have something to do with Hermione. The Draco turning good. He could turn good because of HER. Haven't you guys ever heard of changing for the person you love.
But........sorry- JKR said No to a Draco and Hermione pairing. If Hermione helps him become good, which I doubt, it will not be because they are a couple.

[Walli9989]

k well heres what i think:
Hermione and Ron (this is the most obviouse)
Harry and Luna, i really think theyr going to end up together either as friends or as a couple (hopefuuly a couple) because when Harry was talkin to her in GOF right before the feast he said he felt comfortable talking with her, i would quote it but a friends barrowing my book.
Ginny and Neville; i think theyll get together once Neville gains a bit more courage. remember his wand broke and remember "the wand chooses the wizard" well that wand was Nevilles fathers so hopefully we'll see a whole new stronger Neville in the book to come.
Walli

[Shylah]

oh wee first to post. Since I'm first I'd just like to say. Draco/Hermione forever.

I give everyone credit to their ships, as long as there's canon/JKR quotage to support it.

Unfortuantly, the only thing standing in the way of D/Hr is JK Rowling, and she has never lied to us before. :sad:

[Melcb98]

Or was the part you guys wanted me to read say "We should all note that whilst we can know a lot from what we read, we do not yet know everything. Please keep that in mind"
How about the:
Please remember to respond in a manner befitting of a civil community.
and
Members caught arguing and lowering the tone of the thread will be PM’d an instant warning and banned from the love thread for 30 days.

[LilypadLollipop]

so how's everybody on the love thread doin today? :p

Hey, i'm a second year :wow:

[angelzrfree]

Oh I'm great lily thanks for asking

Oh and of course JK has never lied. JK is perfect and perfect people just can't lie. They can't make mistakes. After all she is JK.

[LilypadLollipop]

i'm doin great too!
kinda hungry even after the ice cream

[angelzrfree]

what is canon?

[SQUIB182]

The hermione draco ship needs a name, how bout TH/PO
hehe
that means Triger happy, puke over

I WANT ICECREAM TO, and dont anyone think about H/G, chocolate, oooooh i wish!!! :sad:

[LilypadLollipop]

i have absolutely no idea

[angelzrfree]

eat a burger :rotfl:

[Melcb98]

what is canon?
What is from the book or directly from JKR herself.

[LilypadLollipop]

eat a burger :rotfl:
yummy :drool:

[Melcb98]

The hermione draco ship needs a name, how bout TH/PO
hehe
that means Triger happy, puke ove
That ship doesn't need a name, nice it was sunk in canon.

[BlueEyes]

Yeah D/Hr could be cute, if he changed a lot. But jkr has shot that down so on to different Ideas

Hr/R they work, its just....obvious(in my opinion)
Now harry needs a girl who will help him and he will be able to talk to...I donno who yet...but I will get back to you

[Shylah]

Oh I'm great lily thanks for asking

Oh and of course JK has never lied. JK is perfect and perfect people just can't lie. They can't make mistakes. After all she is JK.

Canon is textual evidence from the books.

And it doesn't make sense for JK to make a mistake. She knows where the story is going. She knows who is going to end up with whom. It's not like she is making this all up as she goes along. She only says no when she knows for sure, and she said no ro D/Hr.

[angelzrfree]

ok lemme just say Hermione/Ron don't have much of a chance. Everyone already believes its gonna happen. I'm sure you all have good reasons too. But rons boring. Hermione needs adventure. Ron can't afford it. (NO offense) So lets just go with the unexplainable

[Shylah]

No, let's go with what canon points to: like R/Hr or even (swallows pride) H/Hr.

[Heatherhobbit]

Oh I'm great lily thanks for asking

Oh and of course JK has never lied. JK is perfect and perfect people just can't lie. They can't make mistakes. After all she is JK.

Re-Draco/Hermione

Rowling doesn't like when girls go for the bad boy; therefore, she would not put a character that is so much like herself with someone like Draco.

From the Edinburgh Book Festival, August 15, 2004. (http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/2004/0804-ebf.htm)

Question: Also, will we see more of Snape?

Answer: You always see a lot of Snape, because he is a gift of a character. I hesitate to say that I love him. [Audience member: I do]. You do? This is a very worrying thing. Are you thinking about Alan Rickman or about Snape? [Laughter]. Isn’t this life, though? I make this hero—Harry, obviously—and there he is on the screen, the perfect Harry, because Dan is very much as I imagine Harry, but who does every girl under the age of 15 fall in love with? Tom Felton as Draco Malfoy. Girls, stop going for the bad guy. Go for a nice man in the first place. It took me 35 years to learn that, but I am giving you that nugget free, right now, at the beginning of your love lives.

Then we also have this:

Question: Apart from Harry, Snape is my favourite character because he is so complex and I just love him. Can he see the Thestrals, and if so, why? Also, is he a pure blood wizard?

Answer: Snape’s ancestry is hinted at. He was a Death Eater, so clearly he is no Muggle born, because Muggle borns are not allowed to be Death Eaters, except in rare circumstances. You have some information about his ancestry there. He can see Thestrals, but in my imagination most of the older people at Hogwarts would be able to see them because, obviously, as you go through life you do lose people and understand what death is. But you must not forget that Snape was a Death Eater. He will have seen things that… Why do you love him? Why do people love Snape? I do not understand this. Again, it’s bad boy syndrome, isn’t it? It’s very depressing. [Laughter]. One of my best friends watched the film and she said, “You know who’s really attractive?” I said, “Who?” She said, “Lucius Malfoy!”

[Melcb98]

Canon is textual evidence from the books.

And it doesn't make sense for JK to make a mistake. She knows where the story is going. She knows who is going to end up with whom. It's not like she is making this all up as she goes along. She only says no when she knows for sure, and she said no ro D/Hr.
Quotes from JKR is also canon!

JKr can make mistakes, she has dont it before, shes only human. But, this, was not a mistake, so I agree with you Shylah. This quote was very intentional.

[SQUIB182]

what is canon?


It is a long black gun, in which we shoot stupid ideas with, *cough*h/hr*cough*d/hr*cough cough*

[angelzrfree]

*cough* r/hr *cough*

[Shylah]

It is a long black gun, in which we shoot stupid ideas with, *cough*h/hr*cough*d/hr*cough cough*

stupid is really harsh... maybe unsupported ideas would be better.

[Melcb98]

ok lemme just say Hermione/Ron don't have much of a chance. Everyone already believes its gonna happen. I'm sure you all have good reasons too. But rons boring. Hermione needs adventure. Ron can't afford it. (NO offense) So lets just go with the unexplainable
Why does adventure cost money? Ron's gone on plenty of adventures without having to worry about cost. And, do you really think Hermione is the type to care about money? And, why do you think Hermione needs adventure? Hermione loves books, those are not very adventurous.

[LilypadLollipop]

or silly but possible :p

[Melcb98]

*cough* r/hr *cough*
R/Hr is far from shot down by canon- sorry.

[LilypadLollipop]

ok lemme just say Hermione/Ron don't have much of a chance. Everyone already believes its gonna happen. I'm sure you all have good reasons too. But rons boring. Hermione needs adventure. Ron can't afford it. (NO offense) So lets just go with the unexplainable
Ron's boring :huh: ? i don't think so... draco isn't boring but he's mean, which isn't much better

bye you guys, hafta go to gymnastics.
merry posting!
:cool:

[Shylah]

Book Six, JKR promised Harry would have some romatic interest. My vote is that he'll discover that Ginny is more thna just Ron's little sister.

[rupertfan123]

Posted by angelzrfree
ok lemme just say Hermione/Ron don't have much of a chance. Everyone already believes its gonna happen. I'm sure you all have good reasons too. But rons boring. Hermione needs adventure. Ron can't afford it. (NO offense) So lets just go with the unexplainable

OMG!You just royally dissed Ron!Why don't Hermione and Ron stand a chance???In case you haven't noticed,you don't have to buy love.And Ron's JUST as adventurous as Harry and Hermione!Ron is NOT boring!!!I am deeply offended!If you remember,it was Ron's rat that was the plot point of the third book,he is Harry's best friend,and he deserve's as much of a chance with Hermione as Harry does.The main character doesn't have to have everything he wants!Plus,Harry isn't even interested in Hermione!READ BETWEEN THE LINES!!!

[Shylah]

[QUOTE=rupertfan123]Proud Umbridge/Voldy Shipper!(lol...my friend made that one up...)QUOTE]

That's grotesque... yet intriguing. Eww what would their kids look like? :p

[Miss ERB]

I think canon obviously points to Hr/R. I also think its slightly pointing to H/G. The Furtive look given by Ron to Harry at the end og OotP and some quotes by JK

I dont know the exact wording but... The question was Will Harry fall in Love with Hermione or Ginny in book 4? JK answered that Harry does not fall in love with either of them in book 4 but he's only 14 so he has plenty of time to change his mind *winking smile*

Lol I dont how to make the winking smile. Anyway I dont think she was refering to Harry falling in love with Hermione because shes given so many quotes and clues that say they wont.

[rupertfan123]

lol Shylah,I really don't want to know what thier children would look like.But that's sort of a joke between me and my friend.

[angelzrfree]

books do contain adventures. Thats why I read them duh? They take you places you've never been

[McBeth]

books do contain adventures. Thats why I read them duh? They take you places you've never been

Then if Hermione can find all the adventure she needs in books, why does she need to have adventures with Ron? :huh:

[Shylah]

What struck me most were two things:

1.) Jo referred to the relationship in Book 6 as a "little romance," and she has always referred to Ginny in those terms (Little and small).. so I think that may have been some Jo inuendo.

2.) The Chamber/Prince link... it seems so much more likely that Ginny who is huge in Chamber would again show up prominently in Prince, the book's cousin.

[angelzrfree]

because when you read things in books you want to experience it.

oh and rupert I don't support Harry Hermione either

[xray]

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[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by Shylah
What struck me most were two things:

1.) Jo referred to the relationship in Book 6 as a "little romance," and she has always referred to Ginny in those terms (Little and small).. so I think that may have been some Jo inuendo.

2.) The Chamber/Prince link... it seems so much more likely that Ginny who is huge in Chamber would again show up prominently in Prince, the book's cousin.

Good point.JK also said that information discovered in the second book will show up in the sixth book.Wasn't it the second book where we found Ginny's feelings for Harry?

[SQUIB182]

[QUOTE=rupertfan123]Proud Umbridge/Voldy Shipper!(lol...my friend made that one up...)QUOTE]

That's grotesque... yet intriguing. Eww what would their kids look like? :p

white frogs, with red eyes, very very long fingers, wereing fluffy pink cartigans...give you any ideas?? :rotfl:

[Shylah]

Good point.JK also said that information discovered in the second book will show up in the sixth book.Wasn't it the second book where we found Ginny's feelings for Harry?

Yes, and it was also in the second book where possesssion first cropped up, and problem which I thin will haunt both Ginny and Harry... something that may draw them together.

[McBeth]

because when you read things in books you want to experience it.

Then what's your reason to believe that Hermione can have adventure with Malfoy?

For land's sake, you don't buy adventure. You stumble apon it, it stumbles apon you.

[Miss ERB]

OMG!You just royally dissed Ron!Why don't Hermione and Ron stand a chance???In case you haven't noticed,you don't have to buy love.And Ron's JUST as adventurous as Harry and Hermione!Ron is NOT boring!!!I am deeply offended!If you remember,it was Ron's rat that was the plot point of the third book,he is Harry's best friend,and he deserve's as much of a chance with Hermione as Harry does.The main character doesn't have to have everything he wants!Plus,Harry isn't even interested in Hermione!READ BETWEEN THE LINES!!!


I completely agree with you Ron is not boring at all! He is brave,a loyal friend and a very good person who even though he may not always show it, has a caring heart.

By the way I am loving your sig its just waaaayy too cute! :love:

[angelzrfree]

Draco is an adventure

[Shylah]

Draco is mean... that's why the only friends he has are mute gorillas.

[McBeth]

Draco is an adventure

What, Hermione's going to purposely try to make him into a good guy because it's adventurous? I'm sorry, but I just don't see where your getting this.

[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by angelzrfree
because when you read things in books you want to experience it.

oh and rupert I don't support Harry Hermione either

Okay,1)If you don't support Harry/Hermione,then why are you being so critical about it?And 2) Please don't call me Rupert :p ...Lizzy is fine. :rotfl:

[FredFancier]

Ok, thanks to dinner and dishes, I have missed some things here and there so I will be backtracking to the old thread...
Yes they do bring her down. Like I said. I think Hermione could be so much more without her. Who is Hermione? I bet if we had a chance to go into the book and ask people in other classes who we haven't met who is hermione granger they'd say "oh thats the gryffindor prefect." or "thats harry and rons friend" or "Shes the girl with the BUSHY HAIR." But does anyone know the real Hermione granger. Does anyone care to know. Now you are possibly wondering if Hr/Dr were a possibility why haven't we seen examples of it. Once again you must realize the book is from Harry's viewpoint. Would he want to put Hermione with Draco. So he wouldn't very well show many possibilities of them. would he? I guess I'm also the only one whos heard of the term "sleeping with the enemy".

Draco would not care to see the real Hermione Granger, whom btw - I think we have seen.
Draco would not have a care in the world if Hermione died, In CoS, I can't remember but he either said- bet you the next one dies, I hope its Granger OR he said Pity it [the one who died] wasn't granger
Actually I think he may have said both.
So you want Hermione to be with someone who would have her dead :huh:
We do know Draco's grades. Draco is second to Hermione. Everyone knows that
perhaps in potions
but in everything? I have my doubts- esp because Malfoy would rather learn the dark arts then the "defense rubbish"
Originally Posted by angelzrfree
Plus Hermione deserves someone she can converse with on an intellectual level. Ron is dumb. No offense but his plain stupid. Why would you put someone smart with someone stupid. Thats just stupidity on your part.
Ah, yes- Malfoy talking about how he is going to injure potter, insulting the weasleys and saying he hopes the monster kills hermione is very intellectual..
I respect your opinion, but the ship- not at all.

Who knows...I know a case *cough*mine*cough*: a boy and a girl, after 7 years being friends, got happily together
Ron and Hermione are friends too
but JKR did not say no to R/Hr dating (only to H/Hr) so maybe your real life ship is more like R/Hr...

Hermione and Ron
Harry and Ginny

but I belive that the people I want to be together will not.

I think Ron wouldn't be able to fully apreciate Hermione like Harry could.
And I think that even if Hermione likes Ron she will always be more like a sister to him...just my thoughts...So i guess I just want to know what you think and why.
Really? Wow, your the only one I have met (well on a forum) thus far who wants R/Hr but thinks H/Hr, I mean, on this and other forums there are people who want H/Hr but think R/Hr...interesting. Who knows, if you read KADH, Mrs.Bombadil, Angua9, Polychrome, IceKat and many other herons essays you will be more convinced of both of your ships- and if not, well thats ok too.
:welcome: by the way

Plus why does Ron and Harry get good grades? Isn't because they tend to copy off of Hermione. Another example of how they clearly abuse her. Oh and to people who said I called them stupid. Thats a lie. I said its stupidity on YOUR part. That means your inclined to decide for yourself. If you think your stupid for believing don't say I told you that you were.
Sometimes Hermione offers to let Ron and Harry copy
You did call ron dumb though...and dumb and dstupid are pretty much two peas in a pod
So stupidity on our part? Are you calling us stupid? (I am asking because I dearly hope I am wrong)
and uhm stop saying "Ok but JKR said NO" I heard it the first time. Likewise someone says no but later on changes their mind. Draco could join the DE's but be a double agent like Snape. OH NO we've never had bad boys gone good before whatever shall we do????????????????
JKR is talking about the series, not a particular book
also- JKR tells us to keep an eye on Snape, and even if he is on the "good side" when it comes to voldemort, he is still NOT a very nice person, esp to Harry.
Abuse is a very strong word, don't use it where Ron, Hermione, and Harry's friendship is conerned.
Here!Here! Melcb!
BTW, I love how the D/HR ship has brought the H/HR and R/Hr ships together.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
I think it is pretty nice too, its good not to have this constant rivalry with R/Hr and H/Hr
H/G and H/L don't have it...R/L and H/L don't have it...
Melcb98 it could have something to do with Hermione. The Draco turning good. He could turn good because of HER. Haven't you guys ever heard of changing for the person you love.
Why would Draco turn good, and go against- his parents, his long-dead ancestors, his beliefs, his morals, his ideals, etc
and more importantly- why would JKR write it? It's been done- Snape is a double agent, Snape turned good! Its old, its boring, lets move on.
And if Draco changed for the person he loved- he would not be draco. He is evil. He is a villain. He is like a mini voldemort! He wants Hermione dead, he hates Ron and Harry, he hates muggleborns, he wanted to help the heir of slytherin kill off muggleborns, he made the potter stinks badges, he was rude to poor little 11 year olds, he hates dumbledore etc. So lets assume hermione fell in love with him. Then he changed for her (the one he loved). He is not Draco anymore therefore Hermione does not Love him.
But she doesn't anyway, so we're ok
(plus Draco took Pansy to the ball, she is the girl who can 'boost his stock' as she is a slytherin and probably rich)

JKR said NO to D/Hr happening. She would not lie. She says that readers don't mind being tricked but hate being conned. No cannot possible be twisted to mean yes. So it would be her conning us to make it happen. And as Draco wanted Hermione to be killed in CoS. I do not see a future besides maybe her slapping him harder in store for D/Hr.
There is always fanfic though.
Once again- I respect your opinion but not the ship.

Hey, i'm a second year
Awesome!

[McBeth]

Okay,1)If you don't support Harry/Hermione,then why are you being so critical about it?And 2) Please don't call me Rupert :p ...Lizzy is fine. :rotfl:

She/he doesn't ship Harmony nor Heron - Angelzrfree ships Draco Malfoy/Hermione Granger.

[SQUIB182]

I completely agree with you Ron is not boring at all! He is brave,a loyal friend and a very good person who even though he may not always show it, has a caring heart.

By the way I am loving your sig its just waaaayy too cute! :love:

I agree, how do you get drawings in there, I have this v.v.cutte oneof fleur and it is a personaly drawn thing, yet i dont kno how tho get it in my sig :upset:

[Shylah]

That was some mouthful FF.

[eRiN_GRyFFiN]

Good point.JK also said that information discovered in the second book will show up in the sixth book.Wasn't it the second book where we found Ginny's feelings for Harry?

I've always thought that the link would be the Gryffin-dor :p sword..
Maybe I'm not as romantic as I thought after all! lol..

and by the way...I'm starting to think seriously about going aboard on a ship...have someone already said something on Albus:gryff: Minerva ship? *erin taking notes*

just wondering.. :p

[FredFancier]

Can't find the post now, but I saw soemthing about H/G
JKR said that Harry will hold A little girls hand
and that he will have a little romance
GInny is the only one described as a little girl (hermione is only described as foolish)

[angelzrfree]

Quote from - Fred Fancier Why would Draco turn good, and go against- his parents, his long-dead ancestors, his beliefs, his morals, his ideals, etc
and more importantly- why would JKR write it?

Didn't she write that with Sirius Black. I could've sweong Sirius went agains his parents, his long-dead ancestors and etc.

[FredFancier]

That was some mouthful FF.

Me? I was working on it for a while (I didn't want to fall behind the times)

[JimmyPotter]

In interviews JKR has said that a Neville/Luna relationship is a no-go. Is there anyone else at Hogwarts for either of them, or might they get involved with muggles?

[angelzrfree]

sorry sweong is a typo it was supposed to be sworn

[Shylah]

IMO, The novels seem to be dripping in H/G. The romantic symbolism of Ginny running after the train, her blossoming separate from Harry, the idea that he (and we) still have a lot to learn about her, and (had to throw this in) the similarities in appearence between H/G and James/Lily.

[Rowena Ravenclaw]

I agree, how do you get drawings in there, I have this v.v.cutte oneof fleur and it is a personaly drawn thing, yet i dont kno how tho get it in my sig :upset:

There's a thread in the Wizengamot Administration Services, which is down at the bottom of the main page (and is where people should go if they have technical questions about the forums instead of posting them in here) which should explain any signature questions.

*is rather enjoying the lull in the neverending H/Hr - R/Hr debate*

[Shylah]

JKR said NO to D/Hr.. oh why are we still arguing over this?

[McBeth]

In interviews JKR has said that a Neville/Luna relationship is a no-go. Is there anyone else at Hogwarts for either of them, or might they get involved with muggles?

I personally ship Luna with Harry, and Neville with Ginny - so, yes, I do believe there's still someone at Hogwarts for them. :)

[angelzrfree]

Because I think it can happen. Thats why.

[Walli9989]

I personally ship Luna with Harry, and Neville with Ginny - so, yes, I do believe there's still someone at Hogwarts for them. :)
wow ur the first person iv heard say that u want Harry and Luna, and Ginny and Neville to get together and i totally agree! :cool:

[McBeth]

Because I think it can happen. Thats why.

I'm sorry, but JKR obviously doesn't. She gave us a flat-out "No" to D/Hr. What more do you want?

wow ur the first person iv heard say that u want Harry and Luna, and Ginny and Neville to get together and i totally agree! :cool:

Pleasure to make your acquaintance! :)

[Walli9989]

i think Hermione is too smart to get together with Draco, espessially when hes done evrything to humiliate her best friends.

[Shylah]

Without canon to support it the D/Hr ship is sunk.

[Walli9989]

wow this thread just started and theres already 70 responses!

[FredFancier]

i think Hermione is too smart to get together with Draco, espessially when hes done evrything to humiliate her best friends.
and, you know, Draco wanted her dead in CoS, thats never good for a ship

[Shylah]

and, you know, Draco wanted her dead in CoS, thats never good for a ship

That is officially the best quote of the night.

[Walli9989]

what do u guys think is going to happen to, omg i cant remember her name, ummmmmm the gurl who was dating Cedric?

[FredFancier]

That is officially the best quote of the night.
::feels special::
thanks :)
I'm just pointing out canon, someone would have gotten to this piece of info eventually

[Shylah]

what do u guys think is going to happen to, omg i cant remember her name, ummmmmm the gurl who was dating Cedric?

I hope good ol' Cho becomes a little..er.. drier in future relationships. Maybe she can date Draco?

[Walli9989]

oops i mean dated, i stil cant remember her name.......................

oh ya Cho thanx, nah i font think shed date Draco

[angelzrfree]

yes but how come no one said anything when I compared sirius and draco in family background.

[FredFancier]

what do u guys think is going to happen to, omg i cant remember her name, ummmmmm the gurl who was dating Cedric?
Cho?
I'm on board HMS Sureshot (is that what its called)
Michael/Cho
edit- oops, someone beat me to answering that! ^-^
but truthfully I dont exactly care who Cho ends up with

funny isnt it, Harry's ex, and Ginny's ex, ending up together...

[Shylah]

yes but how come no one said anything when I compared sirius and draco in family background.

Because it was a moot point. Jo said no!

[SQUIB182]

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my name isn't on there, I'm hurt :upset: heron all the way, baby!!! :blush:

[Walli9989]

Cho?
I'm on board HMS Sureshot (is that what its called)
Michael/Cho

oh ya i forgot all about him, ya theyd be gud for each other. i really nead to read the books again, i cant remember anything

[Sarah_Hedwig]

Another thing with Draco, he calls her the M-word. Most withes and wizards don't call each other that and then go out with them.

I just came back to this site. I've been gone since October. Please tell me that people still aren't arguing about any Heron or Harmony ships.

[Shylah]

Another thing with Draco, he calls her the M-word. Most withes and wizards don't call each other that and then go out with them.

I just came back to this site. I've been gone since October. Please tell me that people still aren't arguing about any Heron or Harmony ships.

Those ships will be around until the last word of the last book.

[FredFancier]

my name isn't on there, I'm hurt heron all the way, baby!!!
OWL Xray, and he'll add you :)
I just came back to this site. I've been gone since October. Please tell me that people still aren't arguing about any Heron or Harmony ships.
sorry,,,we are arguing Heron vs Harmony
what do you ship? (out of curiosity)

[McBeth]

yes but how come no one said anything when I compared sirius and draco in family background.

But Sirius and Malfoy are extremely different - Sirius has a strong character and hated his family (aside from Tonks's mother) and their ways so much he ran away. Malfoy, on the other hand, is, to put it kindly, a weakling and wants very much to impress and be accepted by his family.

[Walli9989]

im all for Ron and Hermione

[Sarah_Hedwig]

I don't think Cho would go out with Draco. If she's mad at Harry, she stil wouldn't go out with Draco, being that she was in the DA...

[Shylah]

I don't think Cho would go out with Draco. If she's mad at Harry, she stil wouldn't go out with Draco, being that she was in the DA...

Don't worry... I was just joking about that. I'm a very faithful Cho/Giant Squid shipper.
(Another joke)

[angelzrfree]

why can't I have an avatar?

[Sarah_Hedwig]

Heron is definetly the best choice (the only choice in my opinion).

[Shylah]

why can't I have an avatar?

Third years and above get avatars... It's in the FAQ.

[Walli9989]

I don't think Cho would go out with Draco. If she's mad at Harry, she stil wouldn't go out with Draco, being that she was in the DA...
nah i dont think she'd do that, does ne1 think she still likes Harry? i do but i dont think he likes her, at least i hope not

[angelzrfree]

Malfoy may not love his family. Hence another reason for him to betray them.

[luvstor_hpbooks]

no, cho won't go out with draco, because you're forgetting that there's still intra-house hostility, and that is esp. between slytherin and the other houses. even if cho and harry hated eachother, she wouldn't want to betray him, or their houses. yea, she was in the DA, so she's like against the whole inquisitorial squad thing.

oh well... every one, i'm for Ron/Hermione, and Harry/Ginny.

[AsKPeeVes]

Third years and above get avatars... It's in the FAQ.
No hogsmeade members do(you have to be in thrid year or above to be in hogsmeade though)...*runs out of thread*
@angelzrfree - Your only allowed one picture in your siggy...and it has to be 300*300 or smaller...

[SQUIB182]

What about mermaides??

[Rowena Ravenclaw]

I'm a very faithful Cho/Giant Squid shipper.

Bah. The squid's still pining for Lily. (That scarlet woman...jilting a perfectly good sea creature for James! :upset: )

[Heatherhobbit]

why can't I have an avatar?
You have to be a Hogsmeade student. To even be eligible for Hogsmeade you have to be a third year, and that depends on your post count. It is very difficult to get into Hogsmeade, and you have to be a high quality poster that follows the rules.

[FredFancier]

Third years and above get avatars... It's in the FAQ.
yep, you have to earn it. info can be found here:
http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22992&highlight=avatar
Malfoy may not love his family. Hence another reason for him to betray them.
do you have any proof that he does not love his family?
he tries to impress them, they are impressed with the dark side...
also- what about the fact that Malfoy wants hermione dead?

[Sarah_Hedwig]

wow, angelzrfree, very good sig, yet very wrong...

[angelzrfree]

hardy har heather

[luvstor_hpbooks]

i think that draco is going to end up being good; not nice, but good. i think he'll betray his family and will run away from home. a situation much like that of sirius', and here he'll find some kind of relationship with a hufflepuff or gryffindor, and break all the hostility.

[angelzrfree]

I want hermione dead too. So I can have Malfoy all to myself. But JK said she won't put me in the book. *pout*

[Shylah]

Bah. The squid's still pining for Lily. (That scarlet woman...jilting a perfectly good sea creature for James! :upset: )

Pity that didn't work out... We may very well have ended up with Harry Squid and the Tickled Tentacles of Doom.

[angelzrfree]

thank you for complimenting my sig Sarah. I didn't make it though. I got it from Contraveritas.

[FredFancier]

angelzrfree, I know that AskPeeves has already told you about the 1 picture limit, but you may also want to know
only 1 pic
the pic can only be 300 x 300 pixels,
and only 7 lines of text
( i know you don't have text, but if you changed it, the text limit would be good to know, and signitures are wiped if they do not comply with the rules) Just so you know :)

[AsKPeeVes]

thank you for complimenting my sig Sarah. I didn't make it though. I got it from Contraveritas.
*repeating myself*Your only allowed one picture in your siggy and it has to be 300*300 or smaller...

[McBeth]

Malfoy may not love his family. Hence another reason for him to betray them.

You have no proof that Malfoy dislikes his family. There is evidence that he is eager to impress them.

BTW, your signature is way to big. On CoSForums, you are allowed to have one image in your signature, and it can be up to 300x300 pixels in size.

[angelzrfree]

sorry I didn't know

[Sarah_Hedwig]

I'm also an H/G

[Walli9989]

i think that draco is going to end up being good; not nice, but good. i think he'll betray his family and will run away from home. a situation much like that of sirius', and here he'll find some kind of relationship with a hufflepuff or gryffindor, and break all the hostility.
that sounds a little too much like Snape, and i dont think draco would turn gud cause he just loves being evil. then again Snape hated James and Draco hates Harry so u never know........

[SQUIB182]

yep, you have to earn it. info can be found here:
http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22992&highlight=avatar

do you have any proof that he does not love his family?
he tries to impress them, they are impressed with the dark side...
also- what about the fact that Malfoy wants hermione dead?


how do you get higher than a first year, I'm sick of being one :rotfl:

[angelzrfree]

Does my Forbidden Dance have to go to? *pouts once more*

[FredFancier]

how do you get higher than a first year, I'm sick of being one
the only way is to post, the post year list can be found here: http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22992&highlight=avatar

that sounds a little too much like Snape, and i dont think draco would turn gud cause he just loves being evil. then again Snape hated James and Draco hates Harry so u never know........
I agree about Draco not turning good
IMO a bad guy (Snape) has already turned good, its done, its boring, lets move on!

[Sarah_Hedwig]

Hey, Do you think Fred and George will date? Maybe they'll never marry and just like be players, or something...

[AsKPeeVes]

Originally Posted by angelzrfree
Malfoy may not love his family. Hence another reason for him to betray them
We dont know much about his relationship with his famliy from what i've seen so far hes trying to live up to his fathers standards but we shouldnt assume...
(I have to agree with beth)

What does this have to do with ships though??

[angelzrfree]

are we allowed to talk of fred/george. I don't think we are.

[FredFancier]

Does my Forbidden Dance have to go to? *pouts once more*you are only able to have 2, you have the forbidden dance one and the other D/Hr pic
and make sure you know the size of the D/Hr one it can only be 300 by 300 pixels
all questions that you may have about sigs can be answered in this post here: http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22990
I highly recomend you read it, otherwise you will lose your sig and have a message saying "Only one pic" or something for a little while( I saw one earlier)

[luvstor_hpbooks]

to get higher than first year you need to make over 100 posts.

[Rowena Ravenclaw]

Does my Forbidden Dance have to go to? *pouts once more*

One picture is one picture. And your other picture is still too large - it's 500 x 500 instead of 300 x 300. The Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.cosforums.com/faq.php?) cover all these things, and if they don't, there's a forum toward the bottom of the page you can ask in.

Okay, since we've apparently covered that, let's talk about Fred and George. Is Fred still dating Angelina? (Were they ever officially going out?)

[Shylah]

Hey, Do you think Fred and George will date? Maybe they'll never marry and just like be players, or something...

Hmm.. I don't know.. They've got some kind of charisma with the ladies, that's for sure. But I don't think Molly will let them be swinging singles forever.

[Sarah_Hedwig]

If you are bored being a first year, just post as much as you can, day and night, it took me a long time to get to 2nd year, but I'm getting off topic...

I think that one of them could date Tonks, but she's too smart for them...

[angelzrfree]

someone said that I could only have one and I don't really feel like going back and putting one on.

[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by angelzrfree
are we allowed to talk of fred/george. I don't think we are.


Okay,Fred/George ships are really gross in my oppinion...no offense meant.

Sorry I was gone so long...I had to visit with family.And angelzrfree,your avvie is funny,but gross.

[Shylah]

If you are bored being a first year, just post as much as you can, day and night, it took me a long time to get to 2nd year, but I'm getting off topic...

I think that one of them could date Tonks, but she's too smart for them...

The Twins are smart, too. Plus I thin kthey'd appreciate Tonks' er.. quirkyness?

[luvstor_hpbooks]

fredfancier, i like your pic in you sig... hehe that's funny as.

[SQUIB182]

Dose anyone know how tho get the pen award from the JKR site, how many posts do I have now??;)

[angelzrfree]

I'm a:
Draco/Hermione
Neville/Ginny
Harry/Padma
Ron/Lavender fan.

P.S. My mom says to tell you guys no one ends up with anyone because Voldy finds a nuclear bomb and blows up hogwarts so. They all die. And Voldy and Bellatrix lives happily ever after.

[Shylah]

Okay,Fred/George ships are really gross in my oppinion...no offense meant.

Sorry I was gone so long...I had to visit with family.And angelzrfree,your avvie is funny,but gross.
I think the question was not Fred/George but Fred/? and George/?

[angelzrfree]

oh thats okay fredfancier (forgive me I forgot your name) I think Fred/George is extremely disgusting. Not only is it Slash its that
in---t. Thats just yuk.

[luvstor_hpbooks]

fred/george! think of the children, the poor children! eww.
i think neville has a crush on ginny, coz <-- because i mean, he tries to pprtect her and all, in OotP.

[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by angelzrfree
I'm a:
Draco/Hermione
Neville/Ginny
Harry/Padma
Ron/Lavender fan.

P.S. My mom says to tell you guys no one ends up with anyone because Voldy finds a nuclear bomb and blows up hogwarts so. They all die. And Voldy and Bellatrix lives happily ever after.


Neville/Ginny are a good couple,but I still think it should be Harry/Ginny.Ron/Lavender isn't likely.Lavender is very materialistic.Ron isn't romantic at all,and Lavender wouldn't be very satisfied with him.

[FredFancier]

I think the question was not Fred/George but Fred/? and George/?
if that is the case I think
Fred/Angelina- they went to the Yule Ball together and JKR does not need to build them up, as they are pretty much comic relief characters (whom I love) their ships arent all that important
and We don't know who George took to the Yule Ball, but he could be with Alicia Spinnet or something
fredfancier, i like your pic in you sig... hehe that's funny as.
thanks :)
Okay, since we've apparently covered that, let's talk about Fred and George. Is Fred still dating Angelina? (Were they ever officially going out?)
they atleast had a date- the Yule Ball
and I think they'd be cute :)

[Walli9989]

I'm a:
Draco/Hermione
Neville/Ginny
Harry/Padma
Ron/Lavender fan.

P.S. My mom says to tell you guys no one ends up with anyone because Voldy finds a nuclear bomb and blows up hogwarts so. They all die. And Voldy and Bellatrix lives happily ever after.

Harry and Padma? oh they went to the ball together, right? but they barely even talked and Harry didnt even want to dance with her.

[rupertfan123]

Oh!Okay,thanks Shylah.

[Melcb98]

Harry and Padma? oh they went to the ball together, right? but they barely even talked and Harry didnt even want to dance with her.
Harry went to the ball with Parvati. Ron went with Padma.

[luvstor_hpbooks]

i agree, i'm all for the harry/ginny, i'm just saying.
becasue, you know from the part in OttP, when they're all captured in umbridge's office? yeah, he tries to help ginny, and the whole prophecy scene, he tries to put her first; know what i mean?

[Shylah]

Harry went to the ball with Parvati. Ron went with Padma.

Regardless... If either of them end up with a Patil, I'll eat the sorting hat.

[rupertfan123]

if that is the case I think
Fred/Angelina- they went to the Yule Ball together and JKR does not need to build them up, as they are pretty much comic relief characters (whom I love) their ships arent all that important
and We don't know who George took to the Yule Ball, but he could be with Alicia Spinnet or something

I always thought that George and Katie Bell went to the ball together,but that's just me...

[angelzrfree]

I heard the Sorting Hat tastes like chocolate

[Sarah_Hedwig]

[QUOTE]P.S. My mom says to tell you guys no one ends up with anyone because Voldy finds a nuclear bomb and blows up hogwarts so. They all die. And Voldy and Bellatrix lives happily ever after.

Your mom is interesting...

[luvstor_hpbooks]

did ron even go with Padma? didn't she say she didn't want to? or was than lavendar? (i accidently left my GoF book in my locker at school, and we're on 6 week summer holidays now :( )

[Walli9989]

Harry went to the ball with Parvati. Ron went with Padma.
oh thats right thanx, i still dont think it would work, im all for neville and ginny though

[TheMagicHat]

Okay, since we've apparently covered that, let's talk about Fred and George. Is Fred still dating Angelina? (Were they ever officially going out?)

I don't think they were officially going out. I think it was just for the Yule Ball. There's nothing in canon that I know of about Fred and Angelina having a relationship beyond that. Besides, I have to wonder what sort of relationship they could have now that the Twins have left Hogwarts and opened their joke shop.

I realize not many on here is a fan of Percy Weasley, but I often find myself wondering if he and Penelope Clearwater are still dating. They still were according to PoA, but I wonder if his pompous manner finally got on her nerves after his admission to the Ministry. I mean if he rejected his own family during OotP, how would that reflect on his relationship?

[angelzrfree]

Oh and I'm a Bill/Fleur shipper as well

[Melcb98]

did ron even go with Padma? didn't she say she didn't want to? or was than lavendar? (i accidently left my GoF book in my locker at school, and we're on 6 week summer holidays now :( )
Ron went with Padma to the Ball. Harry and Ron had ever best friends fantasy and went with twins- except,they didn't really care.

[Sarah_Hedwig]

grrr...how do you quote people?

[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by luvstor_hpbooks
did ron even go with Padma? didn't she say she didn't want to? or was than lavendar? (i accidently left my GoF book in my locker at school, and we're on 6 week summer holidays now)

Ahh!I want to have a summer holiday!Dude,it's like winter here!

[luvstor_hpbooks]

i think penelope broke up with him... didn't she? she probably had enough...
he belongs with umbrige... stupid, stupid, stupid... evil, evil, evil...
*rambles on*

[FredFancier]

I always thought that George and Katie Bell went to the ball together,but that's just me...

could be. JKR could write anyone with Fred or George
did ron even go with Padma? didn't she say she didn't want to? or was than lavendar? (i accidently left my GoF book in my locker at school, and we're on 6 week summer holidays now
Yes, Ron went with Padma, but she didn't like it
and Harry went with Parvarti and she didn't enjoy the time she spent with Harry'
P.S. My mom says to tell you guys no one ends up with anyone because Voldy finds a nuclear bomb and blows up hogwarts so. They all die. And Voldy and Bellatrix lives happily ever after.

Lol, I used to say that a lot, but I'm not a voldemort/bellatrix shipper and I really don't think a nuclear bomb will fall on them

[Melcb98]

grrr...how do you quote people?
Press the quote button.

[luvstor_hpbooks]

once again, i left my book at school. *sighs* :(

[angelzrfree]

who belongs with Umbridge luvstor?

[rupertfan123]

Okay,this is off topic,but do you think Fred and George will even be in the last two books?I cried when they left...but I didn't cry when Sirius died(please don't bite my head off for that one)...I'm gonna miss them if they aren't!!!

[Melcb98]

i think penelope broke up with him... didn't she? she probably had enough...
he belongs with umbrige... stupid, stupid, stupid... evil, evil, evil...
*rambles on*
The book never says that.

ETA: remember that this is not a chat room!

[angelzrfree]

Oh Penelope, Percy's girlfriend. You're talking about Percy

[LilypadLollipop]

hello everyone, back from gymnastics, anyways, i don't really have anything to post but rupert123 where did you get the fab signature pic, it's so purdy :blush: . o, i have also been turned into a chocolate shipper, mwa ha ha ha

[Walli9989]

Oh and I'm a Bill/Fleur shipper as well
but i dont think Bill would like that much, then again she is half veela

[angelzrfree]

I've invented a new ship. Its the Percy/Tonks ship. Unless of course it already been made.

[Talio]

I do admit I have a soft spot for Harry/Ginny. Ginny's a good listener, which Harry needs. She's also lighthearted enough that she'd be able to take Harry out of his spouts of depression while she would still understand them after her eventful first year at Hogwarts. Beside that, Harry wants to be a part of the weasley family, and this would make it official. And Harry may just be the one guy Ron wouldn't mind seeing his sister with, even if he would comment on it being squicky.

[Sarah_Hedwig]

I think that Fred & George will be in the books

[rupertfan123]

hello everyone, back from gymnastics, anyways, i don't really have anything to post but rupert123 where did you get the fab signature pic, it's so purdy . o, i have also been turned into a chocolate shipper, mwa ha ha ha

I made the banner,but the pic came from http://www.artdungeon.net/

[TheMagicHat]

The book never says that.
No, it doesn't. Which is why I'm wondering. We don't have much of an idea on Penelope's personality so who knows? Maybe pompous prats like Percy turn her on? :rotfl:

[Walli9989]

I've invented a new ship. Its the Percy/Tonks ship. Unless of course it already been made.
oooo how about Bill and Tonks?

[Shylah]

I made the banner,but the pic came from http://www.artdungeon.net/

I love Marta's artwork!Her drawings of Ron and Hermione are amazing- she captures the couple so perfectly.

[FredFancier]

but i dont think Bill would like that much, then again she is half veela

Bill is giving her private lessons...in the language of tongues [like languages and such]
hehe
ok- but seriously
Fleur got a job at gringotts to improve her english and bill is giving her many private lessons

[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by Talio
I do admit I have a soft spot for Harry/Ginny. Ginny's a good listener, which Harry needs. She's also lighthearted enough that she'd be able to take Harry out of his spouts of depression while she would still understand them after her eventful first year at Hogwarts. Beside that, Harry wants to be a part of the weasley family, and this would make it official. And Harry may just be the one guy Ron wouldn't mind seeing his sister with, even if he would comment on it being squicky.

Wow!Well put!

[Sarah_Hedwig]

Yeah, Percy/Tonks, mmm...I say no.

[rupertfan123]

Originally posted by Shylah
I love Marta's artwork!Her drawings of Ron and Hermione are amazing- she captures the couple so perfectly.

I know!She's a very good artist and really captures the scenes she draws perfectly.

[Sarah_Hedwig]

I must go, toodles!

[angelzrfree]

Ok now I will post the nastiest love fics I've heard (may not be from this thread):

Lucius/Hermione
Lucius/Ginny
Voldemort aka Tom Riddle/Ginny
Draco/Harry (thats sick)
Ron/Harry (what are they smoking)
Severus Snape/Hermione Granger

Sweetest Ships I've heard:
(I may not support some but it doesn't mean its not sweet, this goes for the following that will be posted as well)
Harry/Hermione
Ron/Hermione
Harry/Ginny
Hermione/Neville
Ginny/Neville
Draco/Hermione (please like you guys didn't know it was coming)


PS:Fred I forgot your name. Stupid of me I know. But would you mind repeating it please.

[Walli9989]

speaking of Percy what do u think hes gonna do now that he found out Crouch lied to everyone?

[LilypadLollipop]

what about McGonagall and Dumbledore? that wouldn't be too bad :p
the apple pie ship.

[SQUIB182]

Harry and Padma? oh they went to the ball together, right? but they barely even talked and Harry didnt even want to dance with her.
they didn't go together, Harry went with patavie.(sp??)

[TheMagicHat]

Yeah, Percy/Tonks, mmm...I say no

Agreed. I like Tonks too much to put her with Percy.

Since we don't know the current status of Percy/Penelope and there's no news of a breakup, how about a new ship? The HMS Pinhead! :evil:

[rupertfan123]

Posted by angelzrfree

Ok now I will post the nastiest love fics I've heard (may not be from this thread):

Lucius/Hermione
Lucius/Ginny
Voldemort aka Tom Riddle/Ginny
Draco/Harry (thats sick)
Ron/Harry (what are they smoking)
Severus Snape/Hermione Granger

Sweetest Ships I've heard:
(I may not support some but it doesn't mean its not sweet, this goes for the following that will be posted as well)
Harry/Hermione
Ron/Hermione
Harry/Ginny
Hermione/Neville
Ginny/Neville
Draco/Hermione (please like you guys didn't know it was coming)


PS:Fred I forgot your name. Stupid of me I know. But would you mind repeating it please.

I agree with everything you said there!And I don't want to know who came up with the Ron/Harry ship.

[Melcb98]

I agree with everything you said there!And I don't want to know who came up with the Ron/Harry ship.
People seem to like it better than the Luna/Ron ship. :rotfl: Oh, how funny.

[SQUIB182]

Ok now I will post the nastiest love fics I've heard (may not be from this thread):

Lucius/Hermione
Lucius/Ginny
Voldemort aka Tom Riddle/Ginny
Draco/Harry (thats sick)
Ron/Harry (what are they smoking)
Severus Snape/Hermione Granger

Sweetest Ships I've heard:
(I may not support some but it doesn't mean its not sweet, this goes for the following that will be posted as well)
Harry/Hermione
Ron/Hermione
Harry/Ginny
Hermione/Neville
Ginny/Neville
Draco/Hermione (please like you guys didn't know it was coming)


PS:Fred I forgot your name. Stupid of me I know. But would you mind repeating it please.


you know, some of those are Ileagle(sp?), Lucius is married, and wouldn't go with hermione, 'cause she is a mudblood.

Did you know "mud" is bad in america too??

[Walli9989]

they didn't go together, Harry went with patavie.(sp??)
ya someone already told me that but thanx anyways! i think it pervati, ummmm i donno it still looks wrong

[angelzrfree]

Bill is dating Fleur. Percy needs someone to loosen him up. Tonks is a bit on the wild side. It fits. Opposites attract.

[Messed]

Wow. This page has drastically changed since the last time I was here. What happend to the valid arguments with the thousand-word posts used to back up points?

Oh well...

Go Harry and Hermione!

[rupertfan123]

ya someone already told me that but thanx anyways! i think it pervati, ummmm i donno it still looks wrong

It's Parvati.I used to RP her all the time.

[angelzrfree]

It is. I didn't know mud was bad over here. I know certain racial slurs are. But other than that I didn't know.

[Melcb98]

Wow. This page has drastically changed since the last time I was here. What happend to the valid arguments with the thousand-word posts used to back up points?

Oh well...

Go Harry and Hermione!
I was wondering the same thing.
People have forgotten for the moment that this is not a chat room.

Care to bring up a subject to debate?

[SQUIB182]

I agree with everything you said there!And I don't want to know who came up with the Ron/Harry ship.


You like Drako/hermione too? how dare you!!!
they were probibly checken out the grass up in canida :rotfl:

[Shylah]

Bill is dating Fleur. Percy needs someone to loosen him up. Tonks is a bit on the wild side. It fits. Opposites attract.

Opposites don't awlays attract... I think Tonks has a better match in one of the other Weasley boys (Charlie or one of the Twins). Percy may be uptight, but he likes it that way. Tonks would bring too much chaos into his life.

[angelzrfree]

I will gladly give you something to debate.
Lets attack..... Severus Snape/Hermione


*carefully tries to slinker away with drac/hermione ship in her pocket*

[rupertfan123]

Bill is dating Fleur. Percy needs someone to loosen him up. Tonks is a bit on the wild side. It fits. Opposites attract.

Okay,yeah,opposites attract,but Percy is the only Weasley member I really don't like,and Tonks is really cool!I don't think it would be that great of a match.

[Walli9989]

Opposites don't awlays attract... I think Tonks has a better match in one of the other Weasley boys (Charlie or one of the Twins). Percy may be uptight, but he likes it that way. Tonks would bring too much chaos into his life.
u never now, maybe he needs chaos

[Shylah]

I will gladly give you something to debate.
Lets attack..... Severus Snape/Hermione


*carefully tries to slinker away with drac/hermione ship in her pocket*

That's A Fanon ship... Maybe we can try something like Who is Luna's best match?

[luvstor_hpbooks]

Ok now I will post the nastiest love fics I've heard (may not be from this thread):

Lucius/Hermione
Lucius/Ginny
Voldemort aka Tom Riddle/Ginny
Draco/Harry (thats sick)
Ron/Harry (what are they smoking)
Severus Snape/Hermione Granger

i've seen:
harry/severus
harry/draco
harry/lucius
harry/severus/draco *shudders*
harry/sirius <-- ew!
ron/ginny ARGH!
hermione/lucius
hermione/lupin
lupin/harry

[angelzrfree]

No one wants to start. Okay I will. Why would someone like Hermione want someone wrinkly and pruney like Sniverus.

[AsKPeeVes]

Wow. This page has drastically changed since the last time I was here. What happend to the valid arguments with the thousand-word posts used to back up points?

Oh well...

Go Harry and Hermione!
Yes everyone please this is the love thread if you want to chat you can post on the quittich pitch lets get back on topic..:)

Slash ships arnt to be disscussed here....

[angelzrfree]

okay stop coming up with words I don't know. What is Fanon?

[rupertfan123]

You like Drako/hermione too? how dare you!!!
they were probibly checken out the grass up in canida

No!!!I am NOT a Hermione/Draco shipper,but if you think about it,it is pretty sweet.Almost like Romeo and Juliet.Still,Ron/Hermione have my vote!

[angelzrfree]

Luna belongs with Colin Creveey. All who agree say "Draco/Hermione rule." I'm kidding. I do like them but you don't have to say that

[CornedBee]

I'm not even wasting my time writing what's obvious. (And I hope you know what I'm referring to.)

On to interesting topics, to the analysis of JKR quotes that are not 100% clear on their meaning. Someone once broke up one of JKR's quotes, the one about something going on in GoF, into its logical parts and explaining each one. I want to do the same for the platonic quote.
Setting: Press Club, 20 October 1999
Moderator: Sean Bowling
Audience: kids, mostly
Introductory words:
Following custom, I will introduce our guest, she will then offer us some magical insight to her new book, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.
{ It is thus clear that this interview/talk is not about GoF, it is primarily about the already published PoA, and of course about the series in general. }
Rowling first reads the wand buying scene from PS. { This shows that it really isn't about PoA only. }

In fact, among all the questions, only two reference GoF: one is "what will happen in the next book?" which Rowling can't answer, of course. She talks a little about the Quidditch World Cup, and what happened to the various teams. The second is if we hear about Lily in GoF. JKR says that, no, there is something special about Lily, but it is too important for GoF (and obviously for OotP, too).

It isn't until the very end that we come to the question of interest. Rowling says she's going to answer one more question and searches the cards on which the questions are written on. She finally decides on this one:
Do Harry and Hermione have a date?
Her answer:
No. They are – they’re very platonic friends. But I won’t answer for anyone else, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Ok. The positions of the teams are well known. Heron takes it at face value: no means no, and the question refers to all the books. Harmonians usually accept that no means no, but the question refers only to GoF. Some Harmonians argue that platonic doesn't meant that Harry and Hermione won't become a couple. I'll address this point separately.

Perhaps one of the most important things to note is that the question was not written by JKR, so it is not subject to JKR's usual twists. However, it would be highly interesting to know if the questions were printed as supplied (i.e. as the questioners, who most likely were children, wrote them) or edited by (adult) assistants before being printed. The issue I have with the exact grammatical form of the question is that it is nonsensical, if taken literally. "Do they have a date?" It refers to the here and now, and would imply that Harry and Hermione were having a date right then, during the interview. Alternatively, the question could refer to PoA and ask about a date between Harry and Hermione in PoA. The "do" form, in colloquial speech, can refer to the future only if explicitely qualified.
The former, of course, can't be what the questioner meant. Thus the question is likely not to be literal. Because the correct grammatical form to ask about the future would be, "Will they have a date?" I assume that the question is the unedited form of a question that a young child, not yet that savvy in grammar, asked. We need to find out what the child meant.
There is absolutely no reason to believe that anyone, child or not, would mean to ask a question about GoF in particular without qualifying the question. In fact, one of the two questions referring to GoF is qualified that way:
Are we going to learn more about Harry’s mom in the next book?
The question clearly asks about the next book, which at the time of the interview is GoF.
So there is absolutely no reason to believe that the question about H/Hr, which is not qualified, was meant to refer to GoF.

We have identified three possible meanings for the question.
1) Do Harry and Hermione have a date in Prisoner of Azkaban, which has been available for some time now?
2) Will Harry and Hermione have a date in the fourth book, which will be the next to be published?
3) Will Harry and Hermione have a date in the indeterminate future, i.e. and of the books yet to be published?

Rowling says no. Plain and simple. What follows is an explanation of why not. But nowhere is a statement that somehow weakens the clear no to the question. Rowling interpreted the question in one of the three ways above and simply says no.
What we need to know, thus, is which way Rowling interpreted the question.
1) Did she interpret it to refer to PoA? This would follow the exact grammatical form. But is that likely? If Rowling thought the question referred to an existing book, she would have said, "Read and find out." She is very careful in the interview not to give away things from published books: she even tells people who haven't read PS yet to stuff their fingers into their ears when she answers the question about Snape's "hurting look". The likelihood that she answers a question about the plot of PoA is thus, well, zero in my opinion. Option 1 is out.
2) Did she interpret it to refer to GoF? Why would she? As I said above, fans who want to find out something about their ship aren't usually content with hearing about one book. Frankly, who here in this thread would be? We ask about the current situation ("Does Hermione love Ron?") or about how the books will evolve. We may ask to confirm our suspicion about a specific thing ("Is there something going on between Ron and Hermione during the last half of GoF?"). But frankly, if you had the chance to ask Rowling whether your ship will sail, would you ask about HBP only or about both remaining books? (Leave politics such as what Rowling is more likely to answer out - in 1999, in a question most likely asked by a child, these did not play a role.)
We all know Rowling is smart, but even average intelligence suffices for these thoughts. There is simply no reason to assume that the questioner wanted to know about GoF in particular. So the only way Rowling's answer could refer to GoF only is if Rowling deliberately chose to interpret the question this way so she could deliberately and maliciously mislead us. Yes, maliciously. Carefully choosing words in order to make the other party likely to misinterpret them is what makes the Harry Potter books so cool. Deliberately misinterpreting the words of others so that you can give what seems to be a clear answer but really says nothing is malicious. Rowling is not malicious. I believe there is a quote where she has explained the difference between conning the reader (plot twists without hints at them) and doing good plot twists, and how she would never do the former.
So option 2 is out. Which leaves us with
3) Did she interpret it as referring to all of the series? Given that the two alternatives are very unlikely, and that this is the most obvious and natural interpretation of the question, we have to conclude that she did, and that her simple and definite answer ("No.") refers to this interpretation. No, Harry and Hermione will never have a date in the books.

They are - they're very platonic friends.
I wonder what she was going to say, but that's neither here nor there. Rowling has given an answer and then goes on to explain the reason: Harry and Hermione won't date because they are friends without romantic feelings for each other. There are some who have argued that platonic doesn't necessarily mean that. But:
1) The audience are mostly children. Children can't be expected to understand the subtleties of the word platonic, not when the word is taught to them as referring to "not a couple". Using the young age of her listeners would be simply cruel and mean. Malicious, again.
2) Harry's greatest desire is a family, the Mirror of Erised has shown that. If Harry and Hermione become a couple, maybe even married, in a completely non-sexual relationship, they can't ever have children. (They might adopt - but how far-fetched can theories get? An adopted child is never exactly the same as a biological one.) Harry would want children. And quite frankly, I think Hermione would want them, too. So no, a non-sexual, romantic relationship between Harry and Hermione wouldn't work.

The third part of Rowling's answer mainly says that there will be other dates. The nudge nudge, wink wink can be seen as a reference to R/Hr, but this point is not nearly as important as the others, which is why I won't be arguing them. It might just as easily refer to H/G or pretty much anything, really. Even H/C, as Cho has already been introduced by that point.

Sooo... what do Harmonians say to this closer look at this important quote?

Edited to say: 5 pages in the time it took me to write this!

[SQUIB182]

It is. I didn't know mud was bad over here. I know certain racial slurs are. But other than that I didn't know.


Mud was the doctor who saved the guy who asasanated(sp) Lincon

[Walli9989]

That's A Fanon ship... Maybe we can try something like Who is Luna's best match?
oooooo i now ,i now!!!!! Harry and Luna!!!!! Harry and Luna!!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D