What if God was a Spectator?

[Fred Black]

What I mean is that maybe there was a Big Bang, but also a God. Since people believe both why not think and only think about this possibility. I pearsonally believe in a god, who in my mind is just a friend or guradian angel. He or She doesn't really have to do anything. what do you think? :angel:

[danfan4ever]

I don't believe that there was a Big Bang. I don't think it could have been both because I believe in God. And in the Bible it says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.(Genesis 1:1) and then goes on to tell how it got there.

Merry Christmas!!!

[Fred Black]

I see what you mean. Now assuming God does exist do you think he makes contact with humans for example such as leave messages via the church or by giving you a thought when you wake up, or does he let us get on with life just watching seeing what we do next, possibly helping someone here and there.

[chocolate brown]

Hmmmmm....well my reply to this thread is...well....I don't wanna offend anyone but I don't believe in God.:scared:

I mean....oh gosh, I'm not good at explaining things, so I’ll do my best just for my friend Fred Black. ;)

I don’t believe in a Christian God, and I don’t like what the Bible says anyway :grumble: , but if I would believe then I would be a Christian.

To me reincarnation makes a whole lot more sense:agree: . I believe that in every each one of us is a soul that had plenty lives before this one, and will have after this one.

Please don’t take me wrong, all of you that are Christians! :scared: :scared:

My parents are atheists, but they are not the reason why I don’t follow the Christian religion.

I have my own opinions about things, and I believe in science also, which means if someone asks me do I think the Big Bang really happened I will say “Of course it did, are you mad!?”.

Again I am very sorry if my post offended anyone, that is just my opinion.

You know what they say “One in a million!” Here in Croatia people say: “A million people, a million different opinions”. Of course it sounds a lot wiser on Croatian! :lol:

But, to stop babbling for nothing, I do know that there is something superior out there, but what it is I do not know. I plan to find out when I die one day.

P. S. Also I am dead afraid of deep water so I guess I must’ve drowned in one of my past lives. :angel:

Yeah, definitely...

I apologise once more if I offended anyone! :nc:

[Fred Black]

Chocolate you didn't offend anyone, you're too polite. I don't necesserily belive that our lives are controlled by a being and therefore there is no fate. Well I don't want to believe that, because i like to be in control of my life. However There isn't much point for God to Exist if he doesn't get actively involved in the world.

[chocolate brown]

Chocolate you didn't offend anyone, you're too polite. I don't necesserily belive that our lives are controlled by a being and therefore there is no fate. Well I don't want to believe that, because i like to be in control of my life. However There isn't much point for God to Exist if he doesn't get actively involved in the world.
I comletely agree!
I don't think he controls our lives!
I like to make my own desizions anyway!

[Fred Black]

But here is a theory which contradicts what i want. If we look at our life in the form of a line and when we get to a discision in our lives(it can be any thing from what we eat in the morning to the book we read in the night etc.) the road becomes a fork and in each forked road there are more forks, and so on. so there fore no matter what disicion you take or even took, there will still be a "history" of what happened and therefore therre will be a "future" of what will happen. This is very complicated. Why doesn't God just show Himself, if he is there?

[chocolate brown]

But here is a theory which contradicts what i want. If we look at our life in the form of a line and when we get to a discision in our lives(it can be any thing from what we eat in the morning to the book we read in the night etc.) the road becomes a fork and in each forked road there are more forks, and so on. so there fore no matter what disicion you take or even took, there will still be a "history" of what happened and therefore therre will be a "future" of what will happen. This is very complicated. Why doesn't God just show Himself, if he is there?
Perhaps he is scared of his own creations? *coward* :elaugh:

[busy91]

I'll bite. I don't believe in the Christian God either, but since I'm a story teller I'll use my imagination.

"What a mess you've made of the world I gave you. Tsk Tsk Tsk. You're on your own!"

[Fred Black]

There we have it. Not doing to well for yourself are you God, care to defend yourself? A miracle would be nice. By the way I like your avtarbusy91. Pink Floyd Rocks.

[Dedalus Diggle]

My belief has long been that the ork of science is to reveal the ways in which God works, that He is not something separate from Nature but that he is Nature, all that exists, and that we and every other part of the world are a part of God. Creation is a far more beautiful story in the unfolding of the cosmos from the Big Bang, the seeding of the galaxies with heavier-than-helium elements by supernovae, the development of planets and eventually life from those exploded star remnants, and the eventual unfolding of life in all its mad splendor through natural processes. Awesome.

On the other hand, I believe that Jesus and God-the-Father are one being, revealed in different ways. Jesus spoke in parables - that is, stories that are wise and help us understand important points, but which are not literally true. Since Jesus can speak in stories that are not literally true, so can God, since they are one Being. Therefore I have no problem accepting the Creation stories of Genesis as parables, giving us insight and wisdom into the human condition but not reflecting the actual details of Creation. To say that God cannot speak in parables diminishes him. To say that the Bible must be literally true is idolatry of the Bible. Furthermore, I know that most of the universe, even the vast majority of Earth, is untainted by Man and our duplicities: therefore, I am far more ready to trust the observeable and pristine work of God over that which has necessarily passed through thousands of recopyings and translations by humans through the millenia. To know Nature and natural processes is to know the mind of God (and by the way, he is also an incredible mathematician).

[just_me]

I believe that God created the world. Only if you take the bible literally would both theroies not work. The bible said the world was created in seven days but never defines what God considers a day.

I have seen many miracles in my life. You can't expect them to be as blatant as what you see in movies. Even what you read in the bible are stories. I have never seen a writer who didn't change the story a little to make it more interesting.
People laugh at me 'cause I'm different...and I laugh at them because they are all the same!
I love this quote Chocolate Brown
I assume its a quote, if its yours sorry for the misrepresentation

[chocolate brown]

I believe that God created the world. Only if you take the bible literally would both theroies not work. The bible said the world was created in seven days but never defines what God considers a day.

I have seen many miracles in my life. You can't expect them to be as blatant as what you see in movies. Even what you read in the bible are stories. I have never seen a writer who didn't change the story a little to make it more interesting.

I love this quote Chocolate Brown
I assume its a quote, if its yours sorry for the misrepresentation
Nope, it ain't a quote. I just said that so people can know how other people react to me! :blush:

[Fred Black]

I asked God recently what he thought about this and he told me to go away, i was disturbing him peace. (was reading Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. because he can time travel) Now this shows that God is a spectator in life. He has so much to do! Go in to the future start several worlds etc, so i asked him if he could give me a copy, but he told me to go away now!

[chocolate brown]

I asked God recently what he thought about this and he told me to go away, i was disturbing him peace. (was reading Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. because he can time travel) Now this shows that God is a spectator in life. He has so much to do! Go in to the future start several worlds etc, so i asked him if he could give me a copy, but he told me to go away now!
Wow, he was really rude! ;)

You should've told him: "Make me!" :rotfl:
Imagine what he would do! My answer is: NOTHING!!! :elaugh:
You should've taken your shot gun and shoot the HBP book!
If we can't have it, neither should he!!! :evil: :lol:

[Fred Black]

but seriously now people, it fits in with all the belief systems. When people see terrible things happening they blaame God and when good things happen its luck so maybe what is happening is that he's just watching saying I've got nothing to do with this.

[jazzy nifflah]

If God's a spectator, then I want to know which team he's rooting for, lol

[Potters Goblet]

I think God is very much a spectator. I saw a stand up comedian once give a humorous (but quite profound) analogy.

he was talking about how humans always go up to a fish tank and tap on the glass... invariably the fish scurry away nervously.... he said "Well of course they do! That glass is their universe! Imagine God being up in heaven tapping on the glass edge of our universe and shouting 'ooh! Look at the humans!'"

I've long been a proponent of the idea that all the natural disasters we have here on earth are the very result of God tapping on our universe's glass edge.