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Wild Rose
January 3rd, 2003, 1:50 pm
Who is this? I have heard them mentioned many times, but I have no idea who they are. Would somene please explain?
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JaLaPeNo
January 3rd, 2003, 1:59 pm
i think its Blaise Zabini. I think he/she's one of Hogwarts student that was sorted with Harry
Wild Rose
January 3rd, 2003, 2:10 pm
Ah, thank you. I thought I spelled it wrong, but I wasn't sure. All I know is that they are a Slytherin. But from which book?
Lee
January 3rd, 2003, 2:18 pm
I think it was Goblet of Fire... I'm not sure.
JaLaPeNo
January 3rd, 2003, 2:19 pm
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone...i believe he/she was sorted with harry, not so sure though
soledad26
January 3rd, 2003, 2:21 pm
S/he's the last one to be sorted in Harry's year...yup, in Slytherin.
Qeomash
January 3rd, 2003, 3:30 pm
For all we know, he's just as important as Orla Quirke.
There has been no mention of that name since SS, that I can recall. But JKR could possibly use the name later, as we already know she's taken names from that list to use in the future. Justin Finch-Fletchley was on the list in SS, and he became important later.
Nikki Felton
January 3rd, 2003, 4:36 pm
Blaise Zabini is a Slytherin boy. I beleive that he is supposed to be quite cute. He may possibly be on the Quidditch Team. I'm quite sure that he is in the Goblet of Fire. Most other things are unknown. Yes, he was on the list in Sorceror's Stone. On my copy he was mentioned on page 152.
' "Well done, Ron, excellent," said Percy pompously across Harry as "Zabini, Blaise" was made a Slytherin.'
~Excerpt from Sorceror's Stone~
To find out just a tiny bit more about him: check out the Harry Potter Lexicon.
:D :) :D
Knight
January 3rd, 2003, 9:36 pm
How do you say his name? Like "blaze" or like "blace"?
Llopin
January 3rd, 2003, 9:39 pm
Blace I guess. But I don't remember hearing of him many times except the sorting hat ceremony.
The Oracle
January 4th, 2003, 1:14 am
Um, real quick.. Did I miss something? When was Blaise ever referred to as a "him"? As far as I know, Blaise as been an androgenous character.
Blaise can be used as a boy and girl's name.
Cat
January 4th, 2003, 2:19 am
Originally posted by Knight
How do you say his name? Like "blaze" or like "blace"?
'Blaze'.
Sabrina
January 4th, 2003, 6:34 am
well,i was gonna say my board buddy from harrypotter-boards.com
Wild Rose
January 4th, 2003, 11:10 am
I pronounce it "Blaze", (I have an English accent,) because I have a friends who's mother is called Blaise and thats how she says it.
I was just curious. I hate not knowing stuff!
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You-Know-Who
January 4th, 2003, 11:44 am
You pronounce it like BLAYZ and Blaise is a French male's name.
So we can savely assume that Blaise Zabini is a male...
Pascal first name was Blaise actually, kind of cool :D
Wild Rose
January 4th, 2003, 11:51 am
Like I said, I know a woman (english) who's first name is Blaise, pronounced the way I said. I think its personal preference, depending on accent. In L J Smiths Nightworld books there is a witch caleld Blaise Harman, so thats a girl.
You-Know-Who
January 4th, 2003, 12:28 pm
hmmm, interesting oh well I prefer to say everything in it's original language, so I will just say BLAYZ...
It's kind of weird that Blaise is used as a girl name in English speaking countries, it's like naming a girl Timothy :p
Llopin
January 4th, 2003, 1:25 pm
I think Blaise can be a male and female name, there are many names that are the same for the two genres.
But I don't know why would he/she be important in the later books.
You-Know-Who
January 4th, 2003, 2:53 pm
Originally posted by Llopin
I think Blaise can be a male and female name, there are many names that are the same for the two genres.
BLAISE m French
Pronounced: BLAYZ
From the Roman name Blasius which meant "lisping" from Latin blaesus. A famous bearer was Blaise Pascal, a mathematician and philosopher from France.
:p
provided by the following source (http://www.behindthename.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=Blaise&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or)
The Oracle
January 4th, 2003, 3:26 pm
Yeah, I've seen women named Blaise. Granted, in 80's movies but still..
So yah, as far as I'm concerned and many others, Blaise's gender is not clear. "Terry" is another androgenous name and there are dozen's others. Just add Blaise to the list.
Other females with the same name or sites saying Blaise is a girl's name too:
http://www.queertheory.com/academics/scholars/names/scholars_parker_blaise_astra.htm
http://www.womenshealthofloudoun.com/babyNames?letter=B
**note** There's a million other sources just like the one above
A female tech executive,
http://www.cnet.com/aboutcnet/0-13613-7-1580870.html
Women's Volleyball,
http://olemisssports.ocsn.com/sports/w-volley/stats/um21.html
This person has a sister Blaise that's mentioned,
http://goprincetontigers.ocsn.com/sports/w-soccer/mtt/triggsmith_romy00.html
I could go on, but ya know... :)
Moonlight
January 4th, 2003, 11:22 pm
So i suppose it' like 'Francis' boy and girl? I would pronounce it 'Blaize' and i have a shocking English accent- i don't even speak slang as in 'aint'.
I don't think the character will play a very important part in the next books. He is hardly mentioned by Malfoy...
And I think Jk just put him in for the sake of a last name.
of course i could be wrong...
PineFresh
January 5th, 2003, 6:50 am
Hmm.....I know it was the last name to be sorted in Book 1 so it's a Slytherin who is Harry's age, but have they ever been mentioned again? If so, where? In one of my older posts, in "Recurring characters" in "The Great Hall", I made a list of the characters named in the Sorting and the ones who haven't been mentioned again, the ones mentioned in passing, etc.
Sirius Black
January 5th, 2003, 8:52 am
I think Zabini is he/she's given name. And Blaze is the Last name. Just like the way they sorted. Potter Harry. Weasley Ron. Blaise Zabini. Is Zabini a boy's or a girl's name?
rotsiepots
January 5th, 2003, 9:09 am
Originally posted by You-Know-Who
BLAISE m French
Pronounced: BLAYZ
From the Roman name Blasius which meant "lisping" from Latin blaesus. A famous bearer was Blaise Pascal, a mathematician and philosopher from France.
:p
provided by the following source (http://www.behindthename.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=Blaise&nmd=n&gender=both&operator=or)
Ahem:
BLAISE
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Gender: Male or Female
Meaning: Stammerer
Origin: French
Taken from this (http://www.babynames.com/V5/index.php?content=gosearch.php3&searchterm=BLAISE&searchby=byname) source.
It does seem that our undifferentiated friend Blaise Zabini is still neither male nor female. :D
Sirius Black, Zabini can't be Blaise Zabini's first name. The sentence mentioning Zabini's existence is this:
"Well done, Ron, excellent," said Percy Weasley pompously across Harry as, "Zabini, Blaise," was made a Slytherin.
Thus we're introduced to Blaise in the exact same fashion as the other students who were sorted (last name first).
You-Know-Who
January 5th, 2003, 11:02 am
hmmm, perhaps it's only male in French.
Both male and female in English because it's pronounced diffirently BLASE, as many of you already said.
What about Zabini, does that have any meaning, is it originated from any language? It doesn't sound English...
Llopin
January 5th, 2003, 11:19 am
I think Zabini is also french. I know someone that is Zabini in his last name, however.
Kristus_Vesanus
March 22nd, 2003, 8:37 pm
She is the one slytherin in Harry's year that we know nothing about besides the fact that she is in Slytherin and is in Harry's year......Heck, we don't even know if it's a guy or a girl. Offhand, I think she's only been mentioned at the sorting a total of once. Will she be important in future books? Will she have anything to do in any part of the series? Could they be the "nice" slytherin? Could they be a spy for Voldemort? Were their parents death eaters? Why were they put into slytherin?
Kat
March 22nd, 2003, 8:42 pm
in which book was he/she mentioned?
Kristus_Vesanus
March 22nd, 2003, 8:43 pm
Kat-They were sorted into Slytherin in the first book...
Kat
March 22nd, 2003, 8:46 pm
*slaps forehead*
of course! i'm a dork. pardon my stupidity...i'm supposed to be studying for finals but my brain is too fried for that...and apparently it's too overworked to even attempt regular thought....
i think it may just have been a filler name, and we may never really know who the person is.
Kristus_Vesanus
March 22nd, 2003, 8:49 pm
I don't know. JK Rowling has a history of dropping hints of characters and then bringing them back later in the story. Like mentioning Sirius Black in the beginning of the first book!
Guardian Angel
March 22nd, 2003, 8:55 pm
I somehow thought it was HE. Blaise Zabini was a boy, if you ask me...
He was mentioned a couple of times...Nothing more, if I could remember.
Kristus_Vesanus
March 22nd, 2003, 8:59 pm
Nope...I'm positive that Blaise was never mentioned as a boy...it might have mentioned them by name, but not as "he"
Guardian Angel
March 22nd, 2003, 9:02 pm
Are you really really really sure?:)
I have read a hundreds of fanfics with Blaise Zabini as a boy... I don't know why would all those poeple think that Blaise was a boy if JKR didn't mention something about his gender..
Mireille
March 22nd, 2003, 9:17 pm
Well, JKR has a history of using a name and then not acting upon it until later, so there is a chance we will meet this character later. I believe she also said in an interview that she never introduces a chracter without a purpose in mind.
Kristus_Vesanus
March 22nd, 2003, 9:23 pm
I've also read many, many fanfics with Blaise Zabini as a girl....it could go either way....
Guardian Angel
March 22nd, 2003, 9:33 pm
Never mind... If he or she is important to the plot, we will know his or hers gender very soon !
bubblesofdeath88
March 22nd, 2003, 9:39 pm
I have also read alot of fanfics as blaise as a boy.
miri
March 22nd, 2003, 10:12 pm
To me, Blaise is a feminine first name. But Zabini is a masculine surname...
Or I could just be going stark raving mad - I'm also studing for exams, Kat (but not finals - good luck!) whilst battling with a painful cough, a blocked throat... I'm dosing myself up.
rotsiepots
March 22nd, 2003, 10:14 pm
*bump*
ahsweape
March 22nd, 2003, 11:40 pm
Originally posted by Nikki Felton (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=117418#post117418))
Blaise Zabini is a Slytherin boy. I beleive that he is supposed to be quite cute. He may possibly be on the Quidditch Team. I'm quite sure that he is in the Goblet of Fire. Most other things are unknown. Yes, he was on the list in Sorceror's Stone. On my copy he was mentioned on page 152.
' "Well done, Ron, excellent," said Percy pompously across Harry as "Zabini, Blaise" was made a Slytherin.'
~Excerpt from Sorceror's Stone~
Where did we ever get an indication of this person's physical appearance?
Kristus_Vesanus
March 23rd, 2003, 3:07 am
I would just like to say that perhaps Blaise Zabini isn't mentioned is the sorting is because they could be the slytherin that isn't mean to Gryffindors. I mean, how many times have the Slytherins taunted and teased Harry, Ron and Hermione and still this Blaise hasn't been mentioned...then on the complete opposite spectrum there's a small possibility that Blaise is spying for Voldemort and is trying to keep a low profile...hmm...just something to think about....
EvilMeghan
March 23rd, 2003, 4:29 am
The Slytherins are usually referred to as "the Slytherins" and there isn't really much detail about them. Only Malfy, Crabbe, and Goyle get named with the occasional mention of Pansy Parkinson (or whatever her name is) and her "gang." If Blaise is a girl (I'm not saying whether she's a she or he's a he, I don't know) then "she" would be part of that gang. If he's a boy, then "he" would be just one of the background Slytherins that never get mentioned by name. He/She will probably show up in later books.
ahsweape
March 25th, 2003, 6:02 pm
Originally posted by Guardian Angel (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=225165#post225165))
Are you really really really sure?:)
I have read a hundreds of fanfics with Blaise Zabini as a boy... I don't know why would all those poeple think that Blaise was a boy if JKR didn't mention something about his gender..
Well I am really, really, really sure that Blaise Zabini's gender was never mentioned and, in fact, the character has only yet been mentioned in the books once - in the first book during the sorting:
"'Well done, Ron, excellent,' said Percy Weasley pompously across Harry as 'Zabini, Blaise,' was made a Slytherin."
I think people must have made him/her a boy in the fanfic either because Blaise is a boy's name in France or because it was a simple assumption that just caught on.
Kristus_Vesanus
March 25th, 2003, 7:03 pm
I'm pretty sure that it was just an assumption because for some reason, people just put "Slytherin" and "Boy" together because boys seem to be the more cruel of the two sexes but Blaise Zabini's gender has never been mentioned.
delemtri
March 25th, 2003, 9:06 pm
How about that Terry Boot, eh? Or Mandy Brocklehurst. Morag McDougal sounds interesting! And Sally-Anne Perks. But none of them have been mentioned since the first Sorting. :)
Kristus_Vesanus
March 26th, 2003, 2:19 am
Actually I'm pretty sure that Terry Boot has been mentioned...actually...wait....that was probably in a fanfiction.....Anyways, Blaise Zabini is probably more importnt because not much has said about the Ravenclaws anyway except for Cho Chang...Most has been said about the Gryffindors and Slytherins.....
Huntingdon
March 26th, 2003, 11:19 pm
Terry Boot has been mentioned a couple of times - once in relation to quidditch and once late in GOF, IIRC.
delemtri
March 27th, 2003, 12:03 am
Really? Oops then. :) I still don't think we can make any accurate assumptions about ol' Blaise though.
HbAznKyootie
March 27th, 2003, 1:11 am
Hehe, ive read fanfictions where Baise is a girl, and some where he's a boy. We might find out later on in the series, but i doubt it. For now, just assume whatever you want :)
dorcasderr
April 4th, 2003, 8:35 pm
Zabini sounds more Italian than French to me. I have very inadequate dictionaries in both languages...at least close by...and there are no "za" words in the French and only one in the Italian (zabaglione-an egg dessert). This is not to say there aren't more...only that it's a TINY piece of evidence in support of my theory of Blaise Zabini's heritage.
FawkesBox
April 11th, 2003, 3:39 am
I don't think that JKR uses "filler names." I mean Milicent Bulstrode? Who's that-- yet look at the importance she has in Chamber. Never underestimate JKR- she'll always surprise you.
It is also interesting to note that some sorted students are not named- others like "Nott" are not given their full names and will certainly become important- at least moreso in future books.
Katexior
August 13th, 2003, 2:22 pm
I looked to see if this was discussed anywhere else, and didn't turn up with anything, so here it goes.
Does anyone know if Blaise is a girl or boy? I've found evidence supporting both. S/he isn't a main or supporting character, but this is really bugging me. Personally I thought Blaise was a guy.
Auror Williamson
August 13th, 2003, 2:27 pm
I thought Blaise was a girl. I have heard people at school and in books named Blaise, and they were all girls.
Dedalus Diggle
August 13th, 2003, 2:35 pm
I'll vote the other way - I had always thought the name Blaise was a boy's name. For a girl it would be spelled Blaze, I think. But maybe it's a name that is changing. Evelyn, Claire, and Mallory used to be boys' names, and now you almost never hear them but as girls' names.
Bee
August 13th, 2003, 4:02 pm
I thought it was a girl the whole time. Personally, I think it's an awesome name!
marspeach
August 13th, 2003, 4:04 pm
When I read the name I thought it was a boy. But I keep seeing pictures of "her" online. I don't think he/she is a very important character, because the name was only mentioned once in PS/SS.
Catherine Weasley
August 13th, 2003, 4:50 pm
It sounds like it could go either way to me. I always thought Blaise Zabini was a boy.
Katexior
August 13th, 2003, 5:05 pm
Everyone thinks it's different. I wish JK had actually said something about it.
Azimuth
August 13th, 2003, 5:31 pm
I highly doubt that Blaise will feature in either of the upcoming books, but I am sure that Blaise is a girl's name.
Malfoy'sMistress26
August 13th, 2003, 7:19 pm
I have a book called The Complete Book of Magical Names by Phoenix McFarland, and I looked up Blaise, it's a boy's name. I can't remember what it's origin or meaning is but I can check.
A few fanfictions that I read had Blaise as a girl though. I, personally, always thought it was a boy.
:welcome: Katexior
Katexior
August 13th, 2003, 7:29 pm
Thanks for all your thoughts/help on this. :)
Hermione
August 13th, 2003, 7:54 pm
I always assumed that Blaise Zabini was a boy, I don't know why.
Daily Propheter
August 13th, 2003, 8:03 pm
A friend of mine who goes to the Sugar Quill Forums sent this to me a looooong time ago... it's the school list for Harry's year, indicating who's a boy, girl, pureblood, half-blood, etc. I saw the pictures when they were first posted, but they don't seem to be working now...
Anyways, here (http://www.sugarquill.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=592)'s the link, and the list. I'll try to find the pictures at another site, but I'm not having much luck so far.
-EDIT-
Found the pictures. There are 3, though they're hard to read, and Blaise unfortunately got cut off in these copies...
One (http://www.fictionalley.org/harryandme/schoollist1.jpg), two (http://www.fictionalley.org/harryandme/schoollist2.jpg), and three (http://www.fictionalley.org/harryandme/schoollist3.jpg).
dumbleedore
August 13th, 2003, 10:29 pm
I've always assumed that Blaise is male.
marspeach
August 13th, 2003, 10:52 pm
I Googled the name Blaise, and every person by that name I found was male. So I'm pretty sure Blaise is a guy.
Dedalus Diggle
August 13th, 2003, 10:56 pm
I've just remembered where I've heard that name before - Blaise Pascal, the great French Mathematician. At least at that time it was a boy's name.
Hammi
August 14th, 2003, 12:53 am
Blaise is a guy name, it has to be. It just isn't a girls name, just doens't work.
MoonyX
August 15th, 2003, 9:15 pm
The priest at my church is named Blaise so I figured Blaise was a guys name.
The Oracle
September 2nd, 2003, 5:30 pm
My previous post, so I'll just add on to it.. All females with the first name of Blaise.
It's unisexual name, so the verdict is still out until JKR says either way. :)
http://www.queertheory.com/academics/scholars/names/scholars_parker_blaise_astra.htm
http://www.womenshealthofloudoun.com/babyNames?letter=B
**note** There's a million other sources just like the one above
A female tech executive,
http://www.cnet.com/aboutcnet/0-13613-7-1580870.html
Women's Volleyball,
http://olemisssports.ocsn.com/sports/w-volley/stats/um21.html
This person has a sister Blaise that's mentioned,
http://goprincetontigers.ocsn.com/sports/w-soccer/mtt/triggsmith_romy00.html
http://www.babynamenetwork.com/origin.cfm?origin=Latin&gender=Female
"Blaise: Female Latin One who lisps or stammers. A boy or girl's name."
Buckbeak
September 2nd, 2003, 9:38 pm
Iv always thought Blaise was a boy
Geneva
September 7th, 2003, 3:45 am
I think Zabini is he/she's given name. And Blaze is the Last name. Just like the way they sorted. Potter Harry. Weasley Ron. Blaise Zabini. Is Zabini a boy's or a girl's name?
It's 'Zabini, Blaise', not 'Blaise, Zabini'. Therefore, his/her first name is Blaise, and his/her last name is Zabini. Personally, I don't think it really matters.. I doubt that Miss/Mister Zabini is really all that crucial to the story. Odd though it is that Blaise is never mentioned around the Slytherins, I don't think it much matters. S/he seems like just a filler characters. Just like...I don't know, Orla Quirke? Just someone who happened to get a mention. Nothing to important. *shrug* Those're just my thoughts though.
hesdead-dealwithit
September 8th, 2003, 2:47 am
Exactly - JKR had to make up some names to put under the Sorting Hat. The only reason why anyone ever mentions Blaise Zabini is because they don't know if, uh, it is a boy or girl.
cyrenesis
September 8th, 2003, 7:02 am
interesting how we ignore the slightest things...
axy
December 24th, 2003, 11:39 pm
Here is what I know about Blaise Zabini. I haven't read all the posts so if I repeat something already said please forgive me.
JKR mentions Blaise Zabini in the 1st book in sorting hat ceremony. Blaise is mentioned as one of the kids that get sorted. Zabini is his/hers family name and Blaise is his/hers first name. He/she is sorted to Slytherin and is in (off course) Harry's year.
I don't remember that he/she is mentioned in other books.
I live in Croatia and I have read HP books in Croatian, and because of the nature of Croatian language from the sentence where Blaise is mentioned I discovered that he/she is considered to be a girl. But I'm not sure that is true, because Blaise sounds like a boy name to me. And I have read on the Internet that in Spanish version of the book Blaise is considered to be a boy.
I'm not sure why the translators haven't asked JKR about Blaise Zabini's gender.
I don't really understand why is Blaise so popular in fanfictions, maybe because he/she is original character but we don't know anything about him/her. But in the fanfictions he/she is sometimes considered to be a boy and sometimes a girl.
I like the idea of Blaise being a boy better.
Discordia
December 25th, 2003, 1:33 am
There are a few students that we have no idea as to which house they're in or they're gender.
Blaise Zabini
We have no idea as to whether or not theis person is a he or a she bc it could be either way. We that this person is in Slytherin but beyond that who knows? Maybe there are clues in his name if it's an anagram......
Sally-Ann- Perks
Once again we have no idea as to which house she's in but we know that she's a she. I don't how important she is but all we know is that she exsists and her name.
Macdougal Morag
After some extensive research (oh yeah, really extensive lol) I found at this is a celtc/gaelic name and it's a girls name. It means the great one or embracing the sun. Pretty name right? So I'm assuming that this is girl. I have no clue which house she's in. There are a ton of possibilities. It would be nice for her to be in Gryphindoor though.
Moon
Here's a name that we have no clue about it. It's impossible to tell whether it's a girl or a guy what house they're in or anyhting else. There's not even a first name! Nothing on this guy
Conclusion
Asumming that there are 5 girls and 5 boys in each year of each house there's a possibility that Perkes and Morag could be in Gryphindoor bc that would satisfy the requirements. Blaise could either be a girl or a guy but Blaise seems like it's commonyl used as a girl's name.
I was at Lexicon reading the list of students and under Slytherin there's a name called Daphne Greengras who's apparently in Harr's year but I've never heard of her before. If you want to figure out who's who got to the lexicon sight.
Ellen
December 25th, 2003, 5:19 am
Blaise can mean stammerer or blaze. If blaze, that's interesting because fire is actually associated with the Gryffindors (chekc the alchemy discussion) and Slytherin is associated with water.
Zabini - There's a character in a play by Christopher Marlowe who's name is Zabina. She's a queen who has some neat speaches, is captured by an evil conquorer, sees her husband commit suicide, and then commits suicide herself (all very, very gorily described).
Also, the difference between Z and S is that extra emphasis you give it (put your hand to your throat when you say it and you can feel the difference). That's also the difference between B and P. The I's in Zabini are pronounced like long E's. Move the letters around, and that makes Snape with one extra E. Don't know if it means anything.
Rowlingfan1
April 25th, 2004, 12:10 am
I have a friends who's mother is called Blaise
Aha! So it's proven! ('Tis a girl.)
GryffindorSeeker
April 25th, 2004, 12:17 am
I wouldn't be that surprised if there turned out to be more girls in Harry's year from Gryffindor. I would be if they were boys, as they would have had to be mentioned at some point. But maybe later these characters will serve some type of purpose, or at least be mentioned!
Rae
April 25th, 2004, 9:39 pm
The reason why it is believed that Blaise is male is because in foreign language publications, certain words that may be ambiguous in the english language need to be more gender specific in others. Take for example the spanish version which refers to Blaise as 'seleccionado' instead of 'seleccionada'. see below link. Of course, it doesn't really 100% mean he's really a male, but I would think that foreign language publishers would want to be sure before making mistakes.....
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/wizards-v-z.html
Grapez
April 25th, 2004, 11:12 pm
Does this guy/girl come back in any other books? It did ring a bell but I can't reall rmember.
Ephiel
April 25th, 2004, 11:45 pm
Nope. S/he is just mentioned once, at the sorting in the first book.
SnorkackCatcher
April 26th, 2004, 12:00 am
Wow, 80+ posts on this based on one passing reference. :)
To summarise:
In PS/SS Blaise Zabini is mentioned as the last person to be sorted, and they go into Slytherin. That's it. They haven't ever been mentioned again in the books.
The name "Blaise" is AFAIK typically female in English usage - think "Modesty Blaise". It's typically male in Latinate usage - think "Blaise Pascal". The name "Zabini" seems to be Italian (based on my Googling).
Since we have no information other than that stated above, the odds favour JKR meaning the character to be a boy, but I wouldn't place it more than 60-40.
People have speculated that Blaise Zabini is the "stringy Slytherin boy" who can see Thestrals. This is certainly possible, but note that based on the canon that could just as easily be Theodore Nott, or a completely unknown character.
Blaise Zabini isn't the only character mentioned in the Book 1 Sorting ceremony and never again - Sally-Ann Perks and Morag Macdougall come under this heading. Assumption is that they were just names to fill out the Sorting scene.
The character of Blaise Zabini is essentially a blank slate, so naturally he or she (according to writer's preference) has been used in lots of fanfics. Of course, this is fanon, not canon, and none of them have any backing from JKR.
Since we only have one reference to the character, they clearly haven't been important so far, and quite probably aren't going to be important.
The most likely reason for Blaise Zabini being mentioned, as some people have theorised above, is simply to allow JKR to show the last person from Harry's year being Sorted so that the story can move on.
Right, that about covers it. :)
Angora
June 15th, 2004, 10:48 pm
Apparently it's been confirmed (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/wizards-v-z.html#Zabini) that Blaise is a boy. Don't know where all that's been noted, yet. Thought I'd mention it.
mrsmichael6300
June 16th, 2004, 9:09 am
How interesting. My nephew is named Blaise and I happen to know that it comes from the French for "one who stutters or lisps." But it also has another meaning: in Arthurian legend Blaise was a cleric.
I wonder...
Rowlingfan1
June 17th, 2004, 8:34 pm
Don't know why and I don't have a reason, but I just can't trust anything on the matter until J. K. Rowling says it her self, in either a chat, interview, or on her website. Even if the Lexicon does say it.
grawp66
June 17th, 2004, 8:46 pm
There's lots of minor names mentioned during the sorting, I doubt Blaise is importent.
It's a cool name though, for a boy or a girl.
SnorkackCatcher
June 17th, 2004, 10:36 pm
Don't know why and I don't have a reason, but I just can't trust anything on the matter until J. K. Rowling says it her self, in either a chat, interview, or on her website. Even if the Lexicon does say it.
To be fair though, the info does apparently come from JKR via the Portugese translators, so it should be definite.
The only reference to Blaise AFAIK is the first book Sorting scene where Percy is asying something "as 'Zabini, Blaise' was made a Slytherin". Would I be right in guessing Portugese verb forms differ according to gender, hence the ambiguity in translating the sentence? Perhaps someone who speaks the language can confirm or contradict?
hp_lexicon
June 17th, 2004, 10:57 pm
That's correct, they needed the gender of Zabini in order to translate. They asked me, I didn't know but told them that we've all been wondering, so they used their channels to ask Rowling, who gave them the official answer that Blaise is a boy.
Steve
The Lexicon
Rowlingfan1
June 25th, 2004, 7:23 pm
This is my last bit of evidence:
http://www.sugarquill.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=592
gred&forge4ever
August 15th, 2004, 9:37 pm
On the Edinburgh reading transcripts on her site (http://www.jkrowling.com) Jo confirms that Blaise is male and will be in HBP.
TheFifthMarauder
August 15th, 2004, 9:43 pm
Interesting. People confuse Blasie's gender all the time. I'm glad J.K.R. finally cleared that up for us. Wonder if he'll play an important role?
DuFF
August 15th, 2004, 9:51 pm
For those who may be a bit confused right now:
For those of you who are unsure about who Blaise Zabini is, take a look at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Zabini
He was mentioned only once in passing, as Harry, Ron and the other first years were sorted.
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, Chapter 7 - "The Sorting Hat", page 122 (American Edition)
"Well done, Ron, excellent," said Percy Weasley pompously across Harry as "Zabini, Blaise," was made a Slytherin. Professor McGonagall rolled up her scroll and took the Sorting Hat away.
As far as I know, that was the only time Blaise was ever mentioned in the books, although the Wikipedia page notes that he may have been the other person who could see the Thestrals when Hagrid showed them to his Care of Magical Creatures class. This is the quote from the Thestral passage:
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 21 - "The Eye of the Snake", page 445 (American Edition)
Most of the rest of the class were wearing expressions as confused and nervously expectant as Ron's and were still gazing everywhere but at the horse standing feet from them. There were only two other people who seemed to be able to see them: a stringy Slytherin boy standing just behind Goyle was watching the horse eating with an expression of great distaste on his face, and Neville, whose eyes were following the swishing progress of the long black tail.
This boy could have easily been Theodore Nott though...
azkaban
August 15th, 2004, 9:58 pm
the link that someone gave in the "jk rowling's edinburgh reading" thread was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaise_Zabini and there's everything you might wanna find out about him.
juliweasley
August 15th, 2004, 10:27 pm
So, Blaise is a boy, a slytherin in the same year as Draco, Crabbe and Goyle. He must be in the same dorm. Any odds on whether he spies on MAlfoy, either for Snape or Dumbledore? I doubt he is on the same side as them, since he has never been mentioed with that group. He is at the least neutral, so far.....
idlescribbler
August 15th, 2004, 11:59 pm
Okay, so I've been thinking about this for a while now. I think this character may be important for a number of reasons. One, he is a Slytherin that we know very little about, despite the fact he is the same age as Draco and Harry. The fact that we know so little about him suggests he's not a complete git like Malfoy and Company. Furthemore, we can also assume that Zabini is the only fifth year Slytherin boy who is not the child of a Death Eater, as Malfoy, Crabbe, Goyle and Nott are all mentioned in GOF when Voldemort makes his return, but no mention is made of a Zabini.
In the transcript on JKR's site, it says that we will be seeing more of Zabini. I've long felt that Harry and his friends were going to have to make some effort to befriend at least a few Slytherins. Granted, some of them, like Malfoy, are just out of the question. I think Blaise might be more open to the idea, and I would really like to see an admirable Slytherin.
Gwenog Jones
August 16th, 2004, 12:27 am
I have a feeling that maybe Blaise will be the one to finally unite all four houses. He isn't part of Malfoy's crowd, so maybe he is the "good Slytherin" we have not yet seen.
DarkMark90
August 16th, 2004, 12:39 am
Yay! Blaise will be back. Blaise is such a cool name...
Anyway, we don't know that much about him so he could be a "good" Slytherin, or just a Slytherin.
And for all any of us know, when JKR said that he will be back, that could just be a single mention of him.
juliweasley
August 16th, 2004, 12:41 am
IS Nott a fifth year?? This has nott been confirmed by canon. Blaise has!
Nagisa
August 16th, 2004, 1:51 am
Just had to say I love the name.
Blaise has been a running gag for ages because he has a memorable name, and no one knew his gender until the Portuguese translators needed to know it for grammatical gender reasons.
idlescribbler
August 16th, 2004, 1:56 am
IS Nott a fifth year?? This has nott been confirmed by canon. Blaise has!
Nott is listed among the names sorted in PS/SS.
"There weren't many people left now.
'Moon'...'Nott'...'Parkinson'...then a pair of twin girls, 'Patil' and 'Patil'..., then Perks, Sally-Anne'...and then, at last --
'Potter, Harry!" (Chapter 7, page 121 from the American Edition).
I've always just assumed this is the same Nott we have at other points in the story. I could be wrong, but...
juliweasley
August 16th, 2004, 2:30 am
Sorry.. I stand(sit) corrected. So there are five Slytherin boys in the same year as Harry. If Nott was the one in the movie (ok not canon, but, we know he has DE relations) then, poor Blaise!!! He must have a hard time- Whatever his alliances!
grrliz
August 16th, 2004, 5:46 am
I've long felt that Harry and his friends were going to have to make some effort to befriend at least a few Slytherins. Granted, some of them, like Malfoy, are just out of the question. I think Blaise might be more open to the idea, and I would really like to see an admirable Slytherin. Definitely. It's time to lay the old stereotypes aside. The Sorting Hat said in OotP that the four houses of Hogwarts are going to have to stand united or else crumble from within, and while everyone immediately dismissed the idea of befriending any Slytherins, Nearly Headless Nick reminded him that peaceful co-operation is what is needed.
After all, Sirius and Snape had to shake hands at the end of GoF and admit they were working on the same side now; perhaps Zabini will be one of the few Slytherins who turn out to be half-way decent (or totally decent, if we're lucky!).
Knight Bus
August 16th, 2004, 6:47 pm
I think that with the war now out in the open that they'll be a split in Slythen House between the Junior Death Eaters around Malfoy and students who have no connection to Voldemort and want nothing to do him and that faction may be lead be Blaise Zabini.
Danluver182
August 16th, 2004, 6:55 pm
JKR said that we would be seeing this person again.
SnorkackCatcher
August 16th, 2004, 7:44 pm
Yes, someone asked in the Edinburgh chat:
It has recently been confirmed that Blaise Zabini is in fact a male character. Will we see more of him in the next few books?
That’s correct. You do.Since he's only been mentioned once, we couldn't really see less of him, could we? :)
RemusLupinFan
August 16th, 2004, 8:21 pm
I have a feeling that maybe Blaise will be the one to finally unite all four houses. He isn't part of Malfoy's crowd, so maybe he is the "good Slytherin" we have not yet seen.This is what I have been hoping for: that the Slytherin stereotype might somehow be broken. This Blaise Zabini seems the perfect Slytherin character to play a more active part in the storyline. I like the idea that he could be the one to bridge the gap between Slytherin and the other houses in an upcoming time of war, where unity will be of the utmost importance within the school.
I also like the idea that Blaise Zabini was the one who saw the thestrals during Harry's lesson, I'd never thought of that. I think it is a distinct possibility, and it might make Harry more keen to talk to him knowing that he can see thestrals like Harry can.
ramones
August 17th, 2004, 2:07 am
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 21 - "The Eye of the Snake", page 445 (American Edition)
Most of the rest of the class were wearing expressions as confused and nervously expectant as Ron's and were still gazing everywhere but at the horse standing feet from them. There were only two other people who seemed to be able to see them: a stringy Slytherin boy standing just behind Goyle was watching the horse eating with an expression of great distaste on his face, and Neville, whose eyes were following the swishing progress of the long black tail.
This boy could have easily been Theodore Nott though...
Does Harry know Theodore Nott? Do you think JK would have mentioned his name had it been Nott?
Anyway, it will be interesting to see a student we know nothing about and that is in Slytherin. He might not be as bad a Malfoy, interesting.
Boneca
August 17th, 2004, 9:52 am
Does Harry know Theodore Nott? Do you think JK would have mentioned his name had it been Nott?
If I remember correctly, Harry doesn't know Nott. It was Hermione who told him the name when they saw Nott talking to Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle.
stormcat_5000
August 17th, 2004, 10:09 am
Aha! Blaise Zabini is the HBP! :p
sneff
August 17th, 2004, 10:22 am
'there's not a witch or wizard who went bad who wasn't in slytherin' - Hagrid philosophers stone. This doesn't mean that every slytherin had turned bad so there could have been slytherins before that have not been LV supporters maybe Blaise is one of them ?!?! :td: :tu:
stormcat_5000
August 17th, 2004, 10:30 am
Maybe Blaise will befriend Harry but will turn out to be a back stabber!and then Harry wont trust his friends?
maybe Blaise' friendship with Harry really anger Ron. that will either increase Ron's powers (or atleast make him try!) or cause another stupid fight with Harry
Boneca
August 17th, 2004, 1:51 pm
Aha! Blaise Zabini is the HBP! :p
I actually thought of that too! :rotfl:
Sound more likely (or less unlikely?) than Seamus anyway.
Since we know absolutely nada about this guy, he could be half-blood. And maybe he's the descendant of the Italian royal house (which doesn't exist anymore, but well...), making him a prince.
Or he could be the good Slytherin that unites Hogwarts. Or the next Voldemort. Or Harry's lost twin brother. Or maybe...just nobody!? :wow:
Fool
August 17th, 2004, 3:34 pm
Blaise is clearly Mark Evans' cousin.
Kimmetje
August 17th, 2004, 3:40 pm
What makes you say Blaise Zabini is Mark Evan's cousin, Fool?
Now, it seems like we know nothing about Blaise as that she is in a house at Hogwarts as that's what I've read above. So far Blaise Zabini is a nobody, we only make conclusions...
Fool
August 17th, 2004, 3:44 pm
What makes you say Blaise Zabini is Mark Evan's cousin, Fool?
Now, it seems like we know nothing about Blaise as that she is in a house at Hogwarts as that's what I've read above. So far Blaise Zabini is a nobody, we only make conclusions...
It was a joke about speculation. :)
And Blaise is a boy.
FoxyDoxy
August 17th, 2004, 3:47 pm
Was blaise the other Slytherin kid in the PoA movie? Perhaps he is quite important so they introduced him early so he dosen't just seem stuck in later.
Mad Alces
August 17th, 2004, 4:07 pm
Don't know if it's important but in the legends about King Arthur Blaise is Merlin's teacher.
It could be were she got the name from.
SnorkackCatcher
August 17th, 2004, 5:16 pm
Does Harry know Theodore Nott? Do you think JK would have mentioned his name had it been Nott?Nott was described as " a weedy-looking boy" when Harry saw him talking to Malfoy and Co in the library, which is a similar sort of description to the "stringy Slytherin boy" in the Thestrals lesson. So that's probably Nott - his father was stated to be an elderly widower on JKR's site, so maybe he saw his mother die. There's more background to Nott (http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/extrastuff_view.cfm?id=5) on that site, and it doesn't sound like he's necessarily going to be the "good Slytherin" (he sounds more like a Phineas Nigellus type, if anything), so Blaise Zabini is still a good candidate there.
Fool
August 17th, 2004, 6:33 pm
Assuming of course there is a "good slytherin". :)
Violet Black
August 17th, 2004, 8:00 pm
Wasn't there a rumour about a student switching Houses, or was it nixxed by JKR? If there's some truth to it, then it might be Zabini (or even Nott) who switches to Gryffindor. Not sure how this would be accomplished, though.
Ooh, I know! The key might be the Sorting Hat's song in OoTP, where it questions the necessity of placing students in different houses. As things stand, sorting only serves to drive a wedge between the students and their respective Houses, when the need for unity has never been more important. While the sorting process seems reasonable enough during peacetime, a different strategy may be necessary during wartime.
Soooooo ... maybe Dumbledore has a little experiment in mind for Book 6. An exchange, if you will, where a student from each house spends a year in a different house, encouraging the houses to work together and hopefully overcome any hostilities between them.
Of the Slytherins, either Zabini or Nott (or both) could be chosen to go to Gryffindor for a year. I doubt JK would choose Malfoy, mainly because he's too obvious ( besides, I think putting him in Hufflepuff would be far more fitting to Dumbledore's sense of humour!)
Now this could result in the chosen Slytherin refusing to return to his 'proper' house at the end of the year. Perhaps he feels alienated by his fellow Slytherins (Zabini's parents not being Death Eaters or Nott refusing to endorse his father's actions are possible explanations for this,) so being accepted by the Gryffindors might fuel a longing to leave Slytherin altogether and stay with the Gryffs.
Gryffindors prize bravery above all else. Nott informing his Death Eater father he wants out of Slytherin, or voicing his refusal to hate all muggles, halfbloods and muggle-borns, would certainly count as a brave act.
The Sorting Hat has got it wrong in the past - remember Peter Pettigrew - and it's not a stretch to expect that it might do so again. The Hat was on the verge of putting Harry in Slytherin until Harry pleaded otherwise. I suspect that the only difference between Harry and Zabini/Nott was that Zabini/Nott, unlike Harry, didn't plead hard enough.
Or - and I prefer this one - he'll return to Slytherin at the end of the year, but his stint in Gryffindor will equip him to exercise a more positive influence over his fellow Slytherins in Book 7.
Either way, I feel that Zabini or Nott may yet turn out to be the hypothetical 'good Slytherin' the fans are waiting for.
Any thoughts?
grrliz
August 17th, 2004, 9:13 pm
Wasn't there a rumour about a student switching Houses, or was it nixxed by JKR? If there's some truth to it, then it might be Zabini (or even Nott) who switches to Gryffindor. Not sure how this would be accomplished, though.
[snip]
Soooooo ... maybe Dumbledore has a little experiment in mind for Book 6. An exchange, if you will, where a student, or number of students, from each house is selected to spend a year as part of a different house, encouraging the houses to work together and overcome any hostilities between them.
Of the Slytherins, either Zabini or Nott (or both) may be chosen to spend a year in Gryffindor. I doubt JK would choose Malfoy, mainly because he's too obvious ( besides, I believe putting him in Hufflepuff would be far more fitting to Dumbledore's sense of humour!)That's an interesting theory, actually. It would be interesting if there was already an "exchange" program in place that wouldn't make it so random and purposeful once Harry and his friends got to sixth year; maybe Percy could have spent a year in Slytherin to further hone his ambitious streak? :)
The other side of the galleon is that while Zabini or Nott (or both) might come over to Gryffindor, that means someone has to go to Slytherin (or at least another house, but the way things work out you know it would be Slytherin). Who are we willing to give up to spend a year with Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle? Who would best function as a diplomat between houses? Would JKR send a minor character like Seamus or Dean? Someone gaining power like Neville? The other male hero, Ron? Or Harry himself? Could Hermione handle living with Pansy Parkinson for a year? (I couldn't!) Would JKR really want any of our favourite characters to suffer in Slytherin House for a year, even for the purpose of bringing the houses together?
msmooney
August 17th, 2004, 10:11 pm
Blaise is clearly Mark Evans' cousin.
Either that or Blaise is Mark Evans due to time-turner usage. :)
But seriously, on to this idea of Blaise uniting the houses...it's definitely an interesting one, but to me it just seems a bit out there. To have him not mentioned in four books and then to see him suddenly jump up and say "wait, look at me, I'm a good Slytherin" is maybe a little far-fetched. But who knows? He might turn out to be some kind of brave poor soul. However, if he is the boy who watches the thestrals, his description doesn't seem to bode well for the future...he seems rather disgusted with Hagrid and the lesson and was described as "stringy." It's actually the same word she uses to describe the young Snape a few chapters later (and I apologize to the Sevages out there, but JKR has told us to stop feeling sorry for Snape and so I shall...undying love to Alan Rickman, though :) ).
As for Theodore Nott uniting the houses...this also seems unlikely. We know his father is a death eater, and we also know he seemed none too pleased about Harry's interview in the Quibbler...Nott, by the by, is described as "weedy looking."
Violet Black
August 17th, 2004, 11:30 pm
Who would best function as a diplomat between houses? Would JKR send a minor character like Seamus or Dean? Someone gaining power like Neville? The other male hero, Ron? Or Harry himself? Could Hermione handle living with Pansy Parkinson for a year? (I couldn't!) Would JKR really want any of our favourite characters to suffer in Slytherin House for a year, even for the purpose of bringing the houses together?
If it happens, I have an inkling it'll be Ron or Hermione. Can't see it being Harry - too risky. Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle are out for blood after OoTP, but if Malfoy is transferred to Gryffindor, Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw for a year, then ... I'm not sure Crabbe and Goyle would fare too well without their illustrious leader, which in turn might make things easier for Harry.
Neville's just coming into his own, so again, too risky. Hermione seems a better choice. She knows her mind and is less likely to be swayed by negative influences. It's pointless sending her to somewhere like Ravenclaw since she almost became one anyway. Mind you, JK does wonder why we're don't seem as worried for Hermione as some of the others. If Hermione switches to Slytherin for a year, she might well find herself in serious danger.
But seriously, on to this idea of Blaise uniting the houses...it's definitely an interesting one, but to me it just seems a bit out there. To have him not mentioned in four books and then to see him suddenly jump up and say "wait, look at me, I'm a good Slytherin" is maybe a little far-fetched.
Good point. :) JKR more or less said we'd see him again, but his reappearance could be a fleeting one, or even edited out of the final draft.
However, if he is the boy who watches the thestrals, his description doesn't seem to bode well for the future...he seems rather disgusted with Hagrid and the lesson and was described as "stringy." It's actually the same word she uses to describe the young Snape a few chapters later
I got the impression that some students from houses other than Slytherin - including Gryffindors - disliked Hagrid's lessons as well, so the fact that Blaise (if it is Blaise) seemed disgusted with the lesson might not be a huge factor. However, the ones who openly show their disapproval do tend to be Slytherin, so you could be onto something there.
SnorkackCatcher
August 17th, 2004, 11:37 pm
Either that or Blaise is Mark Evans due to time-turner usage.No, that's just silly. Blaise is quite clearly Regulus Black in hiding from the Death Eaters - Kreacher is keeping the real Blaise tied up in a broom cupboard at 12 Grimmauld Place so Regulus can fake his appearance using Polyjuice Potion. I'm sure I don't have to explain all the many clues from the books which make this obvious.
To have him not mentioned in four books and then to see him suddenly jump up and say "wait, look at me, I'm a good Slytherin" is maybe a little far-fetched.Not necessarily. For example, Luna wasn't mentioned at all before OotP, but she seems set to be a significant character in the last two books.
In fact, one of the things I especially liked about OotP was that it expanded the action beyond a core few Gryffindors, mostly Weasleys or in Harry's year. After all, there must be a lot of pupils at Hogwarts, Harry must know many of them, and actually getting to see some of them doing things made the storyline seem more "realistic" (OK, that's a strange word to use about a story set in a magical school, but hopefully you know what I mean. :)) And JKR having taken that step to expand the horizons a bit, I reckon it's now about time we finally get to see some Slytherins (other than Malfoy and his group) as more than just background extras.
msmooney
August 17th, 2004, 11:55 pm
No, that's just silly. Blaise is quite clearly Regulus Black in hiding from the Death Eaters - Kreacher is keeping the real Blaise tied up in a broom cupboard at 12 Grimmauld Place so Regulus can fake his appearance using Polyjuice Potion. I'm sure I don't have to explain all the many clues from the books which make this obvious.
Ah, I see...so that is what Kreacher will be doing in the next book...it all makes sense now...
But I do like your point about Luna! I guess it just bothers me because whenever a character is introduced so late in the game, I always wonder what they were up to - after all, where was Luna the first four books? If Blaise does indeed come into play in the way we're speculating here, I hope its with a bit of background explanation, and not just a sudden Luna-esque burst on to the scene. But in general, I agree that it's nice to have more of the school children getting into the thick of things and coming out from the woodwork.
SnorkackCatcher
August 18th, 2004, 12:11 am
I guess it just bothers me because whenever a character is introduced so late in the game, I always wonder what they were up to - after all, where was Luna the first four books? If Blaise does indeed come into play in the way we're speculating here, I hope its with a bit of background explanation, and not just a sudden Luna-esque burst on to the scene.I suppose the argument would be that the books are written from Harry's perspective, so we don't get to see a character until he has cause to notice them for some particular reason, and he'd never had cause to notice Luna before they shared a compartment on the Hogwarts Express. And he's never paid much attention to any of the Slytherins except where he's been having a run-in with Malfoy or playing them at Quidditch.
Come to think of it, in four and a half years at school he'd apparently never noticed Susan Bones enough to know her name, until she turned up at the Hog's Head - despite the fact that they must have been in plenty of lessons together. (That may not actually be unreasonable - at uni there were people in my subject and year I still really only knew by sight at the end of three years. :))
Gwenog Jones
August 24th, 2004, 12:56 am
No, that's just silly. Blaise is quite clearly Regulus Black in hiding from the Death Eaters - Kreacher is keeping the real Blaise tied up in a broom cupboard at 12 Grimmauld Place so Regulus can fake his appearance using Polyjuice Potion. I'm sure I don't have to explain all the many clues from the books which make this obvious. :rotfl: Everything suddenly makes sense! :lol:
If Blaise does come into play, I hope we get sort of explanation as to why Harry hasn't noticed him before. Gryffindors do have a bunch of classes with the Slytherins, but possibly he hasn't noticed him because he spends his time fighting with Malfoy.
Saiorri
August 24th, 2004, 1:53 am
ha, an admirable slytherin?? nigellus is funny---but he's dead! it just wont happen. its not a stereotype that all slytherins are bad--its the gospel truth! in the movie, some of them looked happy during the quidditch match, musta been the lighting!
ornjbreezy
August 24th, 2004, 1:56 am
If we're to see Blaise (awesome name!) again, he must be of some importance. The only ways I can see being important would be if he opposed Harry or if he befriended Harry. (Or was the HBP, but, you know...) I think it would have been much easier to just have him hang with Malfoy's gang if he opposed Harry, so I don't think that's it. And he isn't really mentioned with Malfoy's gang, either. So I think that this awesomely-named kid is going to, as Ron so aptly said something like, *get chummy* with Gryffindors.
I think he really may be a Good Slytherin, here! I mean, with such a cool name, it would be awesome. Of course, there's no real way that we can know, but it's sure fun guessing.
Saiorri
August 24th, 2004, 2:03 am
same as with why no one in skool talked to harry b/c of dudley, i doubt anyone talks to harry from slytherin b/c of malfyoy beleiving he owned the skool b/c hs dad WAS a govenor.
Ellen
August 29th, 2004, 11:00 pm
No, that's just silly. Blaise is quite clearly Regulus Black in hiding from the Death Eaters - Kreacher is keeping the real Blaise tied up in a broom cupboard at 12 Grimmauld Place so Regulus can fake his appearance using Polyjuice Potion. I'm sure I don't have to explain all the many clues from the books which make this obvious.
No, no, no. Regulus is a metamorphmagus (his other identities are Mark Evans and Crookshanks).
Joking aside, it's been discussed on the alchemy thread that Gryffindor is associated with the element of fire. Blaise/Blaze. I'm suddenly imagining him telling the Hat, "Not Gryffindor, not Gryffindor."
slavetopadfoot
August 29th, 2004, 11:09 pm
i read somewhere in a jk interview or something that when someone asked whether or not we would be seeing blaise zabini more in the last two books she said that we will definitely be seeing more of him... so i think he may be important... possibly helping unite the houses? *one can only wish...*
Jamara
August 29th, 2004, 11:13 pm
Some threads are in the category of people with too much time to waste on thinking silly things. This is that kind of thread. The original question was a valid question, to which the answer could have been kept down to The Philosopher's Stone, sorted the same time as Harry. I think that some people have gone off on a tangent, and the person that asked the original question will probably be more confused than informed. I do'nt want to offend anyone so I won't point fingers but please think a bit before you write.
TerrierMom
August 29th, 2004, 11:24 pm
I think Blaise is the Slytherin in OOTP who could see the Thestrals.
SnorkackCatcher
August 29th, 2004, 11:39 pm
Some threads are in the category of people with too much time to waste on thinking silly things. This is that kind of thread. The original question was a valid question, to which the answer could have been kept down to The Philosopher's Stone, sorted the same time as Harry. I think that some people have gone off on a tangent, and the person that asked the original question will probably be more confused than informed. I do'nt want to offend anyone so I won't point fingers but please think a bit before you write.You are of course right, although to be fair Blaise Zabini has recently moved from the category of "mentioned by name once, probably unimportant" to the category "will appear in Book 6 or 7, possibly of significance" based on JKR's recent interview answers.
That being said, there aren't really many obvious possible roles for him to fill, and so speculation is rife. Maybe:
(1) the "Good Slytherin" who'll help out Harry (a reasonable hypothesis from JKR's style and the stuff the Sorting Hat came out with in OotP)
(2) the Slytherin who could see Thestrals
(3) a new Slytherin Quidditch team member
(4) er ...
hilary17
August 30th, 2004, 12:17 am
As soon as I read the thing where JKR said we'd be seeing more of Blaise, I thought he might be the HBP. I'm not completely convinced or anything, but if Blaise was the HBP, maybe the HBP is the person who will unite the houses...
I'm also starting to see simalarities between Harry and Blaise (if the Blaise/HBP theory is true)- Both can see thestrals (because I definitely believe that the other guy who could was Blaise!) and both are half blood. But Harry is in Gryffindor and Blaise is in Slytherin...maybe Blaise is sort of a mirror of what Harry would have been if he had not chosen to be in Gryffindor.
Don't know if it's important but in the legends about King Arthur Blaise is Merlin's teacher.
It could be where she got the name from.
I bet this is important! Maybe Blaise and Harry do become friends and Blaise, being a prince and all, knows something about Voldemort that could help Harry kill him and teaches it to Harry.
Unforgivable
September 30th, 2004, 9:40 pm
I actually never really noticed Blaise in any books at all.. I don't think he was in GoF can someone give me the chapter he was in? And can someone comfirm he was a guy? I really haven't got a clue..
GodricHollow
September 30th, 2004, 9:50 pm
I thought Blaize was a freshen in OOTP...
grrliz
September 30th, 2004, 9:51 pm
He gets sorted in the Sorting Hat chapter of Philosopher's Stone and is never heard from again (until now!).
Unforgivable
October 1st, 2004, 2:16 am
Blaise is to good a name to waste. =). I read alot of fanfics with him and their all pretty good. Harry and Blaise romances are good too... It's better then Ginny/Hermione.. Those kind of get boring.
niffler12
December 21st, 2004, 1:59 am
Either that or Blaise is Mark Evans due to time-turner usage. :)
Giggle.
Maybe he's Moaning Myrtle's illigitimate son.
ariatna
December 21st, 2004, 2:14 am
Jajaja I don't Think so. But I do think he's very mysterious and I also like his name.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 6:23 pm
Will he be an important character?? Or is he another Mark Evans?? Speculations here!!
Has Rowling said anything??
UselessCharmMaster
December 29th, 2004, 6:26 pm
Please, better go to History of Magic and do a search, you can find a thread with almost exactly the same title. This one will certainly be closed.
lynsey1989
December 29th, 2004, 6:29 pm
yeh i've read a thread almost the exact same as this one before
Snidget66
December 29th, 2004, 6:29 pm
Blaise Zabini...I think I remember JK saying something about Blaise Zabini being important in future books but i don't remember anything else about it.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 6:36 pm
Well, excuse me. This DOES, in fact, belong in Divination Studies. FUTURE books, you see. Anyway, I was looking in THIS board, as this is where this thread belongs, for threads about this same topic. And, coincidentally, this is a Theories board for Zabini, not a "Who is ____" board. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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clkginny
December 29th, 2004, 6:47 pm
Well, Zabini is a Slytherin, so perhaps that is how the houses will get united. Then again, perhaps Zabini is merely the cause of more grief for Harry.
lupislune
December 29th, 2004, 6:47 pm
Wow there is a good deal of tension of this thread.
Anyway, JKR did say that we would see Blaise Zabini again, but to what extent no one knows. I have a strange feeling, though, that he may not be very significant.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 6:53 pm
Wow there is a good deal of tension of this thread.
Anyway, JKR did say that we would see Blaise Zabini again, but to what extent no one knows. I have a strange feeling, though, that he may not be very significant.
Lol, yes :p
Same here. I remember JKR saying SOMETHING about him, just can't remember what.
This may be another "JKR mistake". Because wouldn't SOMETHING have been mentioned in previous books?? just as simple as, "Ron walked down the steps towards the grounds, passing Blaise Zabini." Dunno. Kinda strange.
Maybe he has an Invisibility cloak :p We all know that the owners do *bad* things with them, involving dragons, giants...
Snidget66
December 29th, 2004, 6:53 pm
You know that Stringy Slytherin fifth year in Harry's Care of Magical Creat. Class (COMC) who raised his hand when he said he the thestrals-could that be Blaise Zabini?
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 6:54 pm
Good idea! I've heard JKR say SOMETHING about that. I'll go look.
clkginny
December 29th, 2004, 6:55 pm
You know that Stringy Slytherin fifth year in Harry's Care of Magical Creat. Class (COMC) who raised his hand when he said he the thestrals-could that be Blaise Zabini?
I'm pretty sure that JK said that boy was Theodore Nott.
ginweasel17
December 29th, 2004, 6:57 pm
Blaise Zabini is going to come up in the next books. JK confirmed that it is a male. He was in the same sorting ceremony as Harry.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 6:58 pm
Aaah yes, he is:
Q: Is Theodore Nott the "strringy" Slytherine mentioned in the Threstral class scene??
JKR: Yes he is. (rabbity appearance)
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:05 pm
Maybe Blaise Zabini's parents were death eater but were killed. That could be why he is in Slytherin but was hard to place because maybe his parents betrayed Voldemort. Just a thought
Snidget66
December 29th, 2004, 7:10 pm
I'm pretty sure that JK said that boy was Theodore Nott.
Oh yeah, I forgot! Well then what year is Blaise Zabini?
clkginny
December 29th, 2004, 7:12 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot! Well then what year is Blaise Zabini?
He is in Harry's year, he was sorted in the same ceremony. SS/PS pg 122 US hardback
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:14 pm
You would think he'd be in the classes harry has w/ Slytrherin..
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:15 pm
Well maybe he is. Just never speaks up.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:17 pm
Lol. Most Slytherins DO speak up... except maybe Crabbe or Goyle who CAN't speak. :rotfl:
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:19 pm
lol. Well maybe he isnt brave hince why he isnt in Slytherin. Most of them do speak up but maybe he just doesnt say anything smart.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:22 pm
I guess you're right... *mumble* :upset:
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:24 pm
lol. Im sorry. Its just we really dont hear much from the Slytherin house student wise because they are to buzy being self-centered.
Nicole
December 29th, 2004, 7:24 pm
Well, excuse me. This DOES, in fact, belong in Divination Studies. FUTURE books, you see. Anyway, I was looking in THIS board, as this is where this thread belongs, for threads about this same topic. And, coincidentally, this is a Theories board for Zabini, not a "Who is ____" board. Sorry if I offended anyone.
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This classroom is reserved for students who wish to discuss the stories from all five Harry Potter books only. Future book discussions are reserved for Divination lessons.
Since Blaise has been around since Book 1....Discussion about him can take place in more than one study area. One goal of this forum is to curtail duplicate threads. I can see that your specific question was not the one asked in the thread Blaise Zabini (http://cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=4242) in the History of Magic classroom. The discussion did lead to a lot of speculation on BZ's future, though.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:27 pm
Urm... riiight. I'd hoped that was forgotten.
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:28 pm
That is true. But we are sort of talking about his past and his future at the same time.Weird?
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:29 pm
Yes, weird.
I'd wonder what would suddenly make him come out in the next book. I mean, if he's been shy all this time, why so importand sudden;y???
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:31 pm
Because now that Volemort has returned he will finally tell his sob story? Just a thought
Nicole
December 29th, 2004, 7:35 pm
Maybe Blaise and Theodore Nott will be two Slytherins who join the "good side". Both seem to be pretty quiet as characters.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:38 pm
Maybe. Makes sense.
I wonder HOW she'll introduce him. She cant just suddenly mention him. People would be wondering who the heck Blaise is...
anevilegirl
December 29th, 2004, 7:40 pm
Its so strange to think that there are students in Harry's year that we don't even know of or heard much about. only 1 Slythryn girl 3 total Ravenclaws and 2 Huffelpuffs. I wonder what the rest of them are doing. Well if Blaise is going to be important to future books he better start talking soon. Maybe he's friends with Nott or something. Does anyone have the exact quote from JK about Blaise Zabini?
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:46 pm
A Slytherin boy in the back of the class finally speaks up. "I've seen them too. I guess i see them because of my parents." he slowly melts back down into his seat. "Ah. Thank You for your input Blaise."
That is just something i made up. Not an exact quote.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:47 pm
jkrowling.com... under either rumors or FAQ
Ahh you're such a good writer. Good idea. That would be appropriate
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 7:51 pm
Why thank you. They would be talking about the horses that pulled the carriages of course.
Which would put my theroy back into place.
LionsMane
December 29th, 2004, 7:52 pm
yES, i SURMISED AS MUCH...
oops caps
g2g I'll be back later! Thanks!
Nicole
December 29th, 2004, 7:53 pm
Maybe. Makes sense.
I wonder HOW she'll introduce him. She cant just suddenly mention him. People would be wondering who the heck Blaise is...
NEWT classes are bound to be a bit smaller, Harry may have more interaction with him in a class or two.
I didn't read JKR's quote and wonder who Blaise was or if he would become tremendously important. We only know he will appear in the next books, and not much more.
Barbara Kennedy
December 29th, 2004, 7:55 pm
Perhaps you should see this thread of the same name?
Blaise Zabini (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=4242)
:angel: Sorry, but you need to know, duplicate threads are closed and deleted, that is why they want you to do a search (http://www.cosforums.com/search.php?) or two before starting a new thread (or when searching for information) to avoid duplicating existing threads.
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Nicole
December 29th, 2004, 7:56 pm
Why thank you. They would be talking about the horses that pulled the carriages of course.
Which would put my theroy back into place.
Theodore Nott is the Slytherin who can see thestrals, not Blaise Zabini.
Perhaps you should see this thread of the same name?
Blaise Zabini (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=4242)
:angel: Sorry, but you need to know, duplicate threads are closed and deleted, that is why they want you to do a search (http://www.cosforums.com/search.php?) or two before starting a new thread (or when searching for information) to avoid duplicating existing threads.
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Maybe the mods can merge these two?
Slytherin907
December 29th, 2004, 8:25 pm
Well it's been confirmed that Blaise is indeed a boy and I think JKR said he'll be in HBP.
I'd like to see more of him I love his name!
anevilegirl
December 29th, 2004, 8:28 pm
I'm also starting to see simalarities between Harry and Blaise (if the Blaise/HBP theory is true)- Both can see thestrals (because I definitely believe that the other guy who could was Blaise!) and both are half blood. But Harry is in Gryffindor and Blaise is in Slytherin...maybe Blaise is sort of a mirror of what Harry would have been if he had not chosen to be in Gryffindor.
It was Nott that could see the Thestrals not Blaize. I see Nott as being more likely to be that mirror you were talking about but maybe Blaise is a friend of Nott (like Ron). Maybe he'll be in Harry's NEWT Potions class(hopes).
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 8:36 pm
Sorry my internet went haywire. Anyways Nott might not be the only Slytherin that can see the thestles. We just know that he can see them. Not that he is the only Slytherin to see them.
srenne1982
December 29th, 2004, 8:57 pm
Besides the two places mentioned (Sorting hat, and Threastals) is he mentions in the books?
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 8:59 pm
I think he is mention in each book as a side person.
Jinxie Cat
December 29th, 2004, 9:16 pm
I've merged both of the Blaise Zabini threads together. We don't need two of them.
Side note: LionsMane, you really need to watch your attitude. I'll choose to ignore what you've posted this time but next time I might not feel so generous.
Now... Continue posting...
RemusLupinFan
December 29th, 2004, 9:23 pm
(1) the "Good Slytherin" who'll help out Harry (a reasonable hypothesis from JKR's style and the stuff the Sorting Hat came out with in OotP)
(2) the Slytherin who could see Thestrals
(3) a new Slytherin Quidditch team memberAs I said earlier on this thread, I like the idea that Blaise could be one of the "good Slytherins", perhaps along with Theodore Nott, who might not be so antagonistic toward Harry and co. The idea that he could be a new member of the Slytherin Quidditch team is a good one also. Maybe if he's on the team and he's a "good Slytherin" he'll play fairly and by the rules, which could make Harry's life a bit easier.
On a different note, it's possible that he could be a new member of Draco's little gang of friends. Just like the trio has grown to a sextet, we may see some new people hanging around with Malfoy. I hope this isn't the case though, as Hogwarts really needs Slytherin House to become unified with the other houses. Zabini could provide such a link.
trumpetfreak
December 29th, 2004, 9:32 pm
HA! I couldnt find this but i finally did! Good point. A good Slytherin is farly rare but they are out there.so yes he could be a good Slytherin and willing to help out harry and his friends
bubblesarah
December 29th, 2004, 9:34 pm
Who kows and as afr as I know in my knowledge he has olny been mentioned in two book deffinatle in Ps/Ss not sure about the second he may also be male
PersiaChaos
January 7th, 2005, 3:14 am
While this thread is one of my favorites, simply because its about a character as mysterious as Blaise, I've noticed that there has been a lot of repeating of questions. It's helpful to read the entire thread before posting a question that's been answered multiple times. Blaise IS a boy, he WILL be in the next two books, and so far, the ONLY book he has been mentioned in is PS. He's in Harry's year, and probably not part of Draco's clique, though we can't be sure. The rumor of a "good Slytherin," or a Slyth switching houses has never been confirmed, so don't place too much trust on it, even though it's certainly possible. I love the theory of Blaise as the HBP, but as much as I adore Blaise as he's written in fandom, it's unlikely he'll be the prince.
However...
The title of each of the book's has had to do with a concept that is completely new. Philosopher's Stone, of course. No mention of the CoS until the book was released. No mention of a Prisoner of Azkaban, though both Azkaban and Sirius are mentioned in passing. No mention of a Goblet of Fire, Triwizard Tournament, or Moody before GoF was released. No mention of an Order of the Pheonix. It's not that big of a leap to infer that the Half-Blood Prince has either never been mentioned or introduced, and if he has, it was just in passing. So Blaise's chances are as well as anybody elses.
Also, Nicole's argument about NEWTs was really interesting. I'd never thought about the classes being smaller, thereby increasing the chances of Harry noticing Zabini. I've never heard that argument used before, and it made my day completely.
Besides that, until Mrs. Rowling updates the site with information pertaining to Blaise, we'll all keep going in circles. I WANT him to be the HBP, Head Boy, the uniter of the houses, Mark Evan's older brother, Mrs. Figgs lover :O (though I'll be satisfied with him and Ginny *giggles and pleads for mercy from HG and DG fans* ) the defeater of Voldemort, and Prime Minister of Britain. I just wish ANYBODY could give us new information, even if its just a rumour!
srenne1982
January 15th, 2005, 4:16 am
I just wish ANYBODY could give us new information, even if its just a rumour!
Blaise Zabini is an orphan adopted by Cornilius Fudge, he is not mentioned much because he is a deaf mute.
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