Harry Potter, against God?

[Aidan_Mclaren]

I apologise if there is already a thread about this, but i can't find it.

Do you think HP is against God?

[MrsGWeasley]

I absolutely do not think that Harry Potter gors against God in any way. If it did go aganst god then so would Bewitched, Sabrina, LotR, Star Wars and evrything else with witch craft or darkness. It is ridiculous. I am a Christian and HUGE HP fan, and I don't see any conflict.

[halfbreedlover]

If anyone thought Harry Potter was against God, they wouldn't be posting on this forum. This topic is a little self-contradictory if you ask me. You're asking this on a Harry Potter forum after all. The responses are going to be pretty uniform.

[Kaitie]

If anyone thought Harry Potter was against God, they wouldn't be posting on this forum. This topic is a little self-contradictory if you ask me. You're asking this on a Harry Potter forum after all. The responses are going to be pretty uniform.

Well that was a little blunt.

[marauderlupin]

Harry Potter is our Satanic Bible and all those strange spells and words are code for us, the loyal minions. Everyone knows that.

In all seriousness, no one in their right mind has actually suggested that HP is against God. Just look at all the religious threads in this section...

[Kaitie]

Harry Potter is our Satanic Bible and all those strange spells and words are code for us, the loyal minions. Everyone knows that.

In all seriousness, no one in their right mind has actually suggested that HP is against God. Just look at all the religious threads in this section...

These threads are obviously not going to contain HP haters---but make no mistake, there are HP haters out there. I have numerous kids in my school who do not read the books and do not watch the movies b/c they are "Christian". It confuses the daylights out of them when I (their teacher) respond with the phrase "I'm Christian also".

[Pegasus]

My sister is probably the only person I know who has actually read any of the books and is still anti-Potter. She doesn't deal well with fantasy at all, though, and she's not one to see meaning behind symbols, so the whole concept of fantasy is really lost to her. From the anti-Potter websites I've seen, the really radical anti-Potters think that Harry is the anti-Christ and that his scar is the mark of the beast. For most who find that notion laughable, Harry Potter should prove not only harmless, but meaningful.

[Byrum]

Edit: Isn't there already a thread like this somewhere? "Anti-Potter People" or something? *off to look*
Does it discuss people who dislike HP or is it a thread for people who dislike HP, because I didn't think there would be any on this particular forum....

As for HP 'dislikers' if they dislike it for the 'Because I'm Christian' reason then I wouldn't worry about them, they are obviously crazy. However I don't have a problem with people who dislike it because they don't like the book or don't like fantasy or whatever.

Anyway, Harry Potter can't be against God because otherwise he wouldn't allow it to exist, would he? Unless he is feeling hurt because he hasn't yet had a mention in the series :rotfl: .

[Kaitie]

Hagrid actually uses the phrase "gawd" which surprised me.

Harry Potter is the anti-Christ...really. I wonder if the "hater" Christians can actually find anything good in this world.

[Byrum]

Gawd is not the same as God.

psst Kaitie, it may seem like I'm following you around the forums, but I'm really not... :whistle:

[Kaitie]

You're my personal stalker..... :p

while gawd is a polite way to put it in the books, it's still saying God--I guess it's slang.

[Byrum]

I really never took it that way, when I see it I usually don't think of it as any relation to the other word God. But that's just me.

[Chiasma]

while gawd is a polite way to put it in the books, it's still saying God--I guess it's slang.

I thought it was just his accent?
Anyway I don't really get why Christians (well some of them) have such a problem with the Potter books, there are loads of other books about whichcraft and stuff. I s'pose they pick on Harry Potter cos its so popular.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Hagrid actually uses the phrase "gawd" which surprised me.

Harry Potter is the anti-Christ...really. I wonder if the "hater" Christians can actually find anything good in this world.

I am a christian and I don't think alot of stuff in this world good, but Harry Potter is amoral really, I love HP, it is not wicca.

Sorry for my stupidity of this thread, maybe a better question was, why do christians think HP is evil.

I mean there a book called "witchcraft repackaged" when talking about HP, and yet there is also a book called "Finding God in HP". Personally, No christians had a go at tolkien because in his book Gandalf cast a spell that nuked the forest on fire, so why should we have a go at JKR for?

[Seren]

Harry Potter is the anti-Christ...really. I wonder if the "hater" Christians can actually find anything good in this world.

Well, they're pretty fond of Jerry Falwell, but we won't go there.

I got into a huge fight with some random lady who harrassed me about my Ravenclaw pin. I finally explained (screamed) that the 'magic' in the Bible is a reference to Necromancy, which is a big no-no in a lot of religions. It basically means the invocation of the spirits of the Dead, and then forcing them to do your will. Naturally, most of these spirits aren't there to lay golden eggs or to reseed your lawn. They're big, they're bad... and they're from the Bible, oddly enough. Take a look at the Lesser Key of Solomon, a grimoire supposedly used for these things. They come from the Bible.

Magic, from my viewpoint, is nothing more than energy. I'm a Christian, but I also recognise that strange things happen, both wonderful and devestating, and sometimes the Bible and Science can't give us answers. Let's leave it at that. A kid shooting sparks from a twig aren't high on the important list in a world where genocide still exists. Pfaw.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

*Reminded of Ron and "You don't support them do you?" lol*

The magic Bible-bashing christians should look out for is Wicca and Necromancy, in all honesty they should really be fearing TV, which IMO is alot worse than HP.

[Byrum]

Agreed, TV is far worse than books. The Exorcist, anyone?

Hehe wait till they get a hold on the new Da VInci Code movie, it attacks their beleifs directly.

[Vendetta58]

I apologise if there is already a thread about this, but i can't find it.

Do you think HP is against God?

Absolutely not. Myself being a conservative and a Chirstian, I say the Harry Potter teaches not just great Christian morals, but great morals in general. My personal favorite quote that demonstrates this was in GoF.

"If you want to know what a man's like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals."

Sirius Black

[dani1300]

*Reminded of Ron and "You don't support them do you?" lol*

The magic Bible-bashing christians should look out for is Wicca and Necromancy, in all honesty they should really be fearing TV, which IMO is alot worse than HP.

do you mean they should, or did you mean they shouldn't, because wicca is not like necromancy. i am wiccan, and i do not have any involvement with the devil, for one thing i do not believe in the devil. also, it is against the "rules" of wicca to do anything that would harm another person, so actually that means a lot of the stuff they do in HP, like hexing people is against wiccan pratice.

[Pilum]

As for Hagrid saying God, this is simply not an issue over here - or at least, not so I've noticed. It's only those who also misspell coloUr ;) who type G*d.

And without meaning to be too rude about your family Pegasus, what does your sister think Snow White is, a damning documentary about dysfunctional families? :huh:

[erynae]

I am a christian and I don't think alot of stuff in this world good, but Harry Potter is amoral really, I love HP, it is not wicca.

The magic Bible-bashing christians should look out for is Wicca and Necromancy, in all honesty they should really be fearing TV, which IMO is alot worse than HP.

I hope you don't mean that Wicca is bad, do you? Because if you did, can you please back it up with some facts? There is NOTHING wrong with Wicca. Absolutely NOTHING.

I agree with the tv thing though.

[Chiasma]

do you mean they should, or did you mean they shouldn't, because wicca is not like necromancy. i am wiccan, and i do not have any involvement with the devil, for one thing i do not believe in the devil. also, it is against the "rules" of wicca to do anything that would harm another person, so actually that means a lot of the stuff they do in HP, like hexing people is against wiccan pratice.
I hope you don't mean that Wicca is bad, do you? Because if you did, can you please back it up with some facts? There is NOTHING wrong with Wicca. Absolutely NOTHING.

I don't think he was lumping wicca and necromancy together, I think he meant that the Christians should be worried about both but for different reasons - necromancy is against the bible, where as wicca is a rival religion and could "drive people away from god" or whatever.

[dani1300]

I don't think he was lumping wicca and necromancy together, I think he meant that the Christians should be worried about both but for different reasons - necromancy is against the bible, where as wicca is a rival religion and could "drive people away from god" or whatever.

not that i'm saying this is your personal view, but many of the people that i know who converted from christianity to wicca did so because they did not feel the presence of "god" in their religion. i think wicca is all about getting in touch with god.

[Pegasus]

And without meaning to be too rude about your family Pegasus, what does your sister think Snow White is, a damning documentary about dysfunctional families?
Actually, I have an absolutely wonderful, supportive, awesome family with strong religious convictions. The sister I was referring to just isn't comfortable with fantasy. She is a really nice girl who is very literal, whereas I am not. It's just personality differences. She takes Snow White as it is--a fairy tale that has been around practically forever. Harry Potter is a little hard for her because the kids are going to school to learn witchcraft.
I love my sister. We're just very different. I wouldn't have posted that if I'd known it would be carried that far.

[Hagrid442]

Absolutely not. Myself being a conservative and a Chirstian, I say the Harry Potter teaches not just great Christian morals, but great morals in general. My personal favorite quote that demonstrates this was in GoF.

"If you want to know what a man's like, take a look at how he treats his inferiors, not his equals."

Sirius Black


I, being an agnostic and liberal, concur 100%.

BTW, I'm from Glendale Heights, neighbor. :)

[crazy_megan]

I personally don't feel Harry Potter is against God, mostly because it's a fictional fantasy story.

I've never really understood why so many people take their religion so literally though; I mean the teachings they follow were recorded by humans and therefore are imperfect as everything man-made has some kind of flaw in it, even if it isn't noticable right away.

And I agree with TV being worse than HP books, and actually I think TV is worse than books in general, although I do rather enjoy it. :) I believe many notable people have commented that Harry Potter has led to many young kids reading, which is quite an achievement. Nowdays it seems like kids only watch TV and movies or play video games. They don't go outside and play as much and they don't read either. Reading does wonders for improving education in my opinion and it also improves your vocabulary (although in my case it hasn't improved my spelling :lol: ) which leads to kids becoming more articulate.

All in all though I can't imagine why people come to the conclusion that Harry Potter is against good when it is essentially about good vs. evil, Harry being good and Voldemort being evil. Fawkes, being a phoenix, is also a very powerful Christian symbol and there are many more hidden in the series as well.

[crookshanks1177]

I have never personally considered the Harry Potter series against God. But I'm not an overly religious individual, so maybe it's not my perspective that is being looked for here. I have come across people that are against Harry Potter. But I have no disrespect for them. They don't like Harry Potter so they don't read Harry Potter. More power to them. They're not walking around saying "Harry Potter is blasphemy!" for lack of a better word. The ones I have come across don't view many any differently for liking the Harry Potter series. Actually a few months ago I was talking to a girl from one of my classes. We had got on the topic of Harry Potter some how. She was explaining that due to her own personal religious reasonings she didn't allow her children to read or watch the movies of Harry Potter. I didn't argue with her, that is her beliefs. But she started asking me questions about the series. I answered her questions. I did make a comment along the lines of explaining I don't understand how she can consider the books and movies evil when she has not read them and really have no clue what they are actually about. She thought about it and asked me what I would do if I were a Christian mother in her shoes. (Her kids were curious about the series is why she's asking me all these questions). I told her I'd atleast read the first few chapters of one of the books so I could build my own opinion of it. Then decide from there if I felt if the book was ok for my children. A week later she came to me and asked if she could borrow my first book. So i let her use it. She loved it. She went out and bought the remainder of the books that are out and the movies. Her kids love it too. I don't know I just thought of that when looking at this thread lol.

[Pegasus]

That doesn't surprise me at all. There are really so many good things in the books, and there's nothing inherently evil about them. I see so much religious symbolism in them. Most people who give them a chance will find that they are really good books, and nothing to be feared.
I'm impressed with the way you handled the situation.

[Dementor Dave]

My friends in Georgia used the wonderful biblical phrase "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" [Exodus 22:18] to justify their burning of the books. I do believe that is where a host of people get the belief that Harry Potter is against god.

[SGosling]

My friends in Georgia used the wonderful biblical phrase "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" [Exodus 22:18] to justify their burning of the books. I do believe that is where a host of people get the belief that Harry Potter is against god.

if only some one would re read the bible in it's original written form
Exodus 22:18 translated from the Hebrew

You shall not allow someone a poisoner (who uses herbs in a negative manner,) to dwell among you

King John was a bigot and his 56 translators were corrupt

[purplehawk]

King John was a bigot and his 56 translators were corrupt

Most reasonably well-read people know this to be fact. There is, in fact, almost no acceptable excuse for the self-inflicted blindness so many people have to the Bible and its history - and particularly for the parts of the Bible that don't happen to support their particular mindset, prejudices, or beliefs.

I'm beginning to think of people like this as "Pick-and-Choose-Christians."

What's dismaying is that there are so darned many of them! :wow:

[Pegasus]

My Bible's translation is, "Thou shalt not suffer a murderer to live."

[SGosling]

Most reasonably well-read people know this to be fact. There is, in fact, almost no acceptable excuse for the self-inflicted blindness so many people have to the Bible and its history - and particularly for the parts of the Bible that don't happen to support their particular mindset, prejudices, or beliefs.

I'm beginning to think of people like this as "Pick-and-Choose-Christians."

What's dismaying is that there are so darned many of them! :wow:
Kid used to entertain themselves, in my case a few sticks wired together to make a rifle and mud pies as hand grenades, we read books, hell we read anything, and by doing so we learnt to educate our own mind.
Now people want to be entertained and have lost the power to educate their own minds, hence the rise of video games where kids learn to suckle on the dreams of other. It's a spoon fed society. Religion is being spoon fed to the great masses; people no longer want to think they want to be told.
Spoon fed kids grow up into unquestioning adults who don’t know that they should question everything

[purplehawk]

I'd like to think, Steve, that most parents are vigilant about the amount of time our kids spend in front of the tube, either watching programs or playing video games. I certainly did with my own kids and now that they are all adults, they're doing the same with the grandchildren. We do watch carefully for content in the TV shows, movies and games they watch but the key is more whether or not that content is age-appropriate. I can tell you I would have had a fit if I caught one of the kids wiring sticks together to approximate a rifle or making mud grenades. Guns have always been outside the pale in my household. Outside of guns, however, the kids are free to let their imaginations range far and wide.

Books, though, are a whole different world. Our kids are encouraged to read. They are intimately familiar with dictionaries and the wide variety of books we make available to them. We want them to learn to think critically and independently - and, always, to question what they read and find practical applications for the written words in their own lives.

Religion is being spoon fed to the great masses; people no longer want to think they want to be told.

I know this to be true, but it is a scary thing to me. The so-called "Me Generation" amounts to little more than the dumbing-down of America and it's such a waste! I don't know where to put my finger to determine how and why it happened, but I do know exactly when.

[SGosling]

I can tell you I would have had a fit if I caught one of the kids wiring sticks together to approximate a rifle or making mud grenades. Guns have always been outside the pale in my household. .
I grew up on a farm with a large wood behind the house we shot fished and trapped rabbits almost as soon as we were able to walk, war films/books comics were the life blood of any boy where and when I grew up.

[purplehawk]

I understand. I grew up in a small town in a family heavily peopled with farmers and hunters. I guess that's why I have such a hard time with it. When the grandchildren are older, I am sure their dads will teach them to use a firearm responsibly, but I'm having no part in it.

[Pegasus]

My dad had his hunting rifles hanging on his bedroom wall when I was growing up, so I never thought anything of it. My parents locked their bedroom door when they weren't home, and we weren't allowed in their room when they were home unless we were specifically invited. We don't have guns in our home, though. With three girls, unless they are more tomboyish than I am, they'll probably be as hopeless at hitting a tin can on a shooting range as I am.
This is horribly off-topic. I'll just be quiet now.:D

[SGosling]

I understand. I grew up in a small town in a family heavily peopled with farmers and hunters. I guess that's why I have such a hard time with it. When the grandchildren are older, I am sure their dads will teach them to use a firearm responsibly, but I'm having no part in it.
do you eat meat? last question off topic from me

[Makrasiroutioun]

Harry Potter against God? No way, in my opinion (as a fundamentalist Christian). I cannot see a single thing that is being taught which goes directly against the morals of Christianity.

As for the aside topic, my siblings and I learned how to use guns effectively and responsibly by the age of 12. I'm a hobbyist gunsmith now, and I do sometimes hunt for food. I like the quote: "If guns cause crime, mine must all be defective!"

[Aidan_Mclaren]

I don't think he was lumping wicca and necromancy together, I think he meant that the Christians should be worried about both but for different reasons - necromancy is against the bible, where as wicca is a rival religion and could "drive people away from god" or whatever.

Thank you.

[Pilum]

Actually, I have an absolutely wonderful, supportive, awesome family with strong religious convictions. The sister I was referring to just isn't comfortable with fantasy. She is a really nice girl who is very literal, whereas I am not. It's just personality differences. She takes Snow White as it is--a fairy tale that has been around practically forever. Harry Potter is a little hard for her because the kids are going to school to learn witchcraft.
I love my sister. We're just very different. I wouldn't have posted that if I'd known it would be carried that far.

Actually wasn't meant quite as seriously as you seem to have taken it, Pegasus. I guess I should have added an extra smiley or two. However the line "She is a really nice girl who is very literal" actually sort of backs up something I've felt for a while - that perhaps the reason some Christians (and I'm not sure they deserve the capitalisation) flip out about Harry Potter, D&D, Star Wars or whatever today's target is, is because if the Bible is 100% true with no allegory or hidden meaning, then so must every other book... Certainly seemed true on one forum I used to haunt.

On the topic of fundies (and to move away from peoples families!), surely it could be explained thusly if kids start asking "How can I like Harry Potter (or similar) if the bible says...." : You see, Jimmy, these children are going to a school to help them learn and express their talents. Now we know magic doesn't exist (ducks the curses from the Willow-worshippers (mmmm, Alyson Hannigan ..... drool.....) :)), but it does show that by going to school you can learn how to find and grow your talents, just like Harry, and discover your strengths for the hard times too. It's a parable.

And if you have my mother (and someone like me as a child) this will be followed by "And if you don't get out of that bed and dressed for school in the next ten minutes you'll wish you had!" :D

[purplehawk]

Maybe the everyday conservatives who object to Potterverse do so because they see themselves written so vividly in the Dursleys.

We can see clearly a conservative political agenda in Malfoy and the pureblood mania.

Jo has done a wonderful job illustrating just how ridiculous people actually can be.

[ComicBookWorm]

Harry Potter is full of the moral virtues. Love, sacrifice, loyalty, friendship, bravery, honor, kindness, tolerance. I can't see how anyone could read these books and not come away impressed with the values it portrays. It emphases forgiveness and the importance of choice as a determinant of character. I can't think of a better vehicle for these lessons since they are not spoon-fed or heavy-handed, but still manage to get the ideas across.

These are all the virtues espoused by religion. So only someone who has never read the books would think that it is against religion. The books don't discuss religion so they can remain universal.

[Dementor Dave]

In a vague attempt to right the ship: We are supposed to be discussing the view that HP is against god/religion.

[ComicBookWorm]

There is no religion discussed in the books, so superficially it could be decided that they are against religion. But there are a lot of books out there that don't discuss religion--including LOTR.

The irrational fear of witchcraft is what makes people think HP is against God. Unlike the readers of HP, they are unable to distinguish fiction from fact.

[crookshanks1177]

I'm impressed with the way you handled the situation.

Wow, I appreciate the compliment.

[Pilum]

Problem is Dave, who is going to argue that Harry Potter is evil and satanic, on what is, after all, a Harry Potter fan site? It's a little unlikely that Peter Pious will come across CoS, sign in and make a few inflammatory posts. Now take this on to a (self-styled) "religious" site, you may get some extra bites.....

Not that this is advocating an invasion or flame war, of course, just in case someone reads too much into that!

But just for giggles, and to play Devils Advocate.... :D

Yes, Harry potter is evil, JK Rowling must flog herself in public for writing such a wicked book, all copies must be burned and her property confiscated and redistributed to the deserving (i.e. me).

Discuss.

:lol:

[Tiphany]

But just for giggles, and to play Devils Advocate.... :D

Yes, Harry potter is evil, JK Rowling must flog herself in public for writing such a wicked book, all copies must be burned and her property confiscated and redistributed to the deserving (i.e. me).

Discuss.

:lol:

Go on then, give us some reasons... :p

In my experience, people who think HP is evil and against Christianity haven't read it, and thus can't give any reasons or have a civilised debate about it; a pity. A friend (who is an evangelical Christian) of mine told me once that he didn't read HP because he didn't approve of it: I asked him why, and he said "it's cultic" :sigh: but couldn't say any more, cos he hadn't read them, and didn't see the contradiction there. By "cultic" I can only assume he means it's taking people away from Christianity, in effect acting as a rival religion, but this is daft: HP isn't a religion, it doesn't even have a "force", much less a deity, and magic and God aren't mutually exclusive. I find it odd that you don't hear nearly as much about His Dark Materials, which is much less Christian-friendly I gather.

[purplehawk]

As a Christian myself, and thankfully a more enlightened one than anything on the conservative right, I am concerned about the cultism aspect of their view of our shared religion. In many ways, the Christian Right is another religion altogether... a religion that claims Jesus Christ but, in fact, has very little use for his message. One scripture comes immediately to mind.

Jesus wept.

[Pegasus]

Purp, that's one of my favorite scriptures. I have only one question: What does that have to do with Harry Potter? I'm honestly lost.

[purplehawk]

Purp, that's one of my favorite scriptures. I have only one question: What does that have to do with Harry Potter? I'm honestly lost.


The thread is discussing people, or groups of people, who find Harry Potter offensive for one reason or another. Or that's at least my understanding. From a strictly personal perspective, I can well imagine him weeping over much of what's being done today in the name of Christianity.

[Pegasus]

Okay, that last sentence was the connection I wasn't making.

[Aebhel]

Ok, this was commented on a while ago, but I just thought I'd mention it. The reason that the Lord of the Rings was not vilified when it came out was that it wasn't very popular when it was first released. In the 60's, it became popular with the hippies, who were basically not getting on TV to talk about their taste in books. By the time the christians noticed how popular the story was, it was deeply rooted in our cultural history, and any complaining would have looked really stupid.

Harry Potter, though, became very high-profile very quickly, and that makes it an irresistably huge target.

The funny thing is that Harry Potter is so evil because there are kids learning how to do magic, but there's nothing wrong with having the "Faces of Death" videos out in the main room at Blockbuster where kids can see them. And trust me, even the COVERS on those things are X-rated.

[purplehawk]

Nice take, Aebhel. I think another factor is the national voice the Christian Right as achieved over the past five years. This conservative coup has been forty years in the making; yet people seem surprised. Many of us saw it coming as far back as the mid-sixties.

[Chiasma]

Harry Potter, though, became very high-profile very quickly, and that makes it an irresistably huge target.

:agree: Yes, I definately think the popularity of the books is a big factor. You colud go to the childrens section of the local library and find dozens of books with witches and magic in them - and where its shown in a positive light with witches as the heros as well, Harry Potter isn't the first to do that, I remember reading the Pongwhiffy series and a book about witches going on a package holiday when I was little. Noones burning them or trying to ban them (not that I know of anyway), but you could say they were promoting witchcraft or whatever as well, its just they're not best sellers making millions with films and loads of merchandise.

[HarryPotter]

I don't think Harry Potter is against God... (Hold on, I'm Harry Potter... I'm not against God! :nc: )
Well, in any case... under my point of view the books are more closer to the Bible than many over religious people would say... not because of any mystic or religious reason, but because of the moral values on it: fight good-evil, the importance of our choices, friends, the importance of love, sacrifice, loyalty, the consequences of our actions, etc...

[Aidan_Mclaren]

YOU NEED TO SEE THIS!

http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/harrypotter.html

Look how stupid my fellow christians can be!

[purplehawk]

Oh, geez Louise. That's just sick.

[Byrum]

It's pretty sad, seeing as they at no time quote from HP but seem to feel the need to quote from the Bible several times. Since when is there a female goddess in Harry Potter, anyway?

[crookshanks1177]

Haha I caught that sacrificial goddess comment too and found it amusing.

"Young Harry is given a strange marking on his forehead. Through the sacrificial goddess magic of his mother's love, baby Harry is saved and his blood is given magical powers. Unable to kill Harry, in revenge, Voldemort sears a death curse of a lightning bolt on Harry's forehead."

[lanifiel]

http://shop.sklservices.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HPWR&Category_Code=VID&Store_Code=SEARCHRESOURCES

Here, this was pretty out there as well...

[ComicBookWorm]

http://shop.sklservices.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HPWR&Category_Code=VID&Store_Code=SEARCHRESOURCES

Here, this was pretty out there as well...
:shrug: :rolleyes: :no:

[Byrum]

Yep CBW, that says it all.

Where were we before smilies were invented, and what on earth did we do to express ourselves?

[purplehawk]

I couldn't bring myself to click on that doofus' links. Just scrolling the page was enough. :td:

[SGosling]

http://shop.sklservices.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HPWR&Category_Code=VID&Store_Code=SEARCHRESOURCES

Here, this was pretty out there as well...

I watched several of the videos, and have rejoiced in the fact the makers of the webpages, have used the classic trick of taking something and twisted it to mean something else, unfortunately they forgot that hundreds of people have seen the real interviews, given by Jo Rowling for example, and their spin on the subject is so glaring, and obvious that only the uneducated, the ignorant, or the self blinded fundamentalist, will take any notice.
It’s so out of character for the fundamentalist Christian movement to twist things to suit their bias, :evil: look at the New American bible… maybe not :rotfl:

[Rapunzel]

Just think how much good these people could do in the world if they would use their time and talents to promote truth and tolerance, instead of making videos that twist -or completely obliterate - the truth for their own personal agenda. They're self-righteously proclaiming that Harry Potter is somehow "evil" but they haven't bothered to take note (if they're basing their opinions on the Christian Bible) that bearing false witness against their neighbor is also "evil"

[rons_pigwidgeon]

My sister is probably the only person I know who has actually read any of the books and is still anti-Potter. She doesn't deal well with fantasy at all, though, and she's not one to see meaning behind symbols, so the whole concept of fantasy is really lost to her. From the anti-Potter websites I've seen, the really radical anti-Potters think that Harry is the anti-Christ and that his scar is the mark of the beast. For most who find that notion laughable, Harry Potter should prove not only harmless, but meaningful.

Well, that's just ridiculous. Everyone knows the anti-christ is Michael Jackson. Honestly.

:eyebrows:

[Aidan_Mclaren]

I thought you would like it :p

[marauderlupin]

How come they, anti-Harry Potter people, haven't notice that the way to enter the Ministry of Magic is through that phone booth where you have to press 62442? (6, 2+4, 4+2 = 666) :rotfl: I noticed it on my first reading back in my anagram obsessed days . Anyway, the MoM and Harry Potter by extension is in cahoots with the anti-Christ. I think I'll email them about their oversight :angel:

[Aidan_Mclaren]

There is passage in the bible for people like this:

(this is Jesus) "Sooner will tax collectors, prostitutes and other sinners go to the kingdom of God before you do(the pharisees).

And that's what you do when you do religious bullcrap, berating a book which is purely fiction and built along the same lines of LOTR and CoN.

You can dislike the book, but disliking it because of the so-called " real magic" is idiotic, unfounded and judgemental.

So lay off JKR!!!

[erynae]

How come they, anti-Harry Potter people, haven't notice that the way to enter the Ministry of Magic is through that phone booth where you have to press 62442? (6, 2+4, 4+2 = 666) :rotfl: I noticed it on my first reading back in my anagram obsessed days . Anyway, the MoM and Harry Potter by extension is in cahoots with the anti-Christ. I think I'll email them about their oversight :angel:


They have. I read it on a website a while back.
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