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Pilum
February 15th, 2005, 1:22 pm
Thought for a while but this doesn't seem to fit into "Is the Bible true?" in Spirit, that seems more of an opinion thread and religious discussion whereas this is a 'straight' history question. Bit of a stupid one but asked in all seriousness.

I've been reading Josephus' Antiquities recently and a thought ocurred to me, namely: the Old Testament/Talmud (is that the right name?) is the history of the Jewish religion as seen by themselves, yes? So has it been updated through time? Y'know, something like "And Hitler, ruler of the Germans, did smite the Hebrews most wickedly...". Or does it stop as in present copies of the OT, which I think is Gideon?

Alex Bright
February 15th, 2005, 4:48 pm
The old testement dates from the creation millions of years ago, up to the time just before the time of Jesus at around 0BC, and then there is the New Testement, which tells of the time of jesus.

haha
February 16th, 2005, 12:52 am
It's a weird balance because the relationship between the Old Testament and the New Testament is not fully agreed upon among Christians. There is some debate among Protestant scholars over the issue of whether the New Testament applies to Jewish people, but there is very little debate over its applicability to Gentiles. Also, the degree to which the Old Testament and its laws applies to Christians is disputed. Very few Christians, for example, follow the dietary laws within the Old Testament, whereas almost all Christians believe that the Ten Commandments are applicable.

Pilum
February 16th, 2005, 7:27 am
Whoops, sorry, should have phrased it better - the question is perhaps better aimed at Jewish people on the forums or those with a good knowledge of Judaism. All I'm wondering is, if the OT, viewed as a historical document, not a religious one, is the history of the Jewish people up to a point in time, has it ever been continued?

genesis
February 16th, 2005, 4:27 pm
The OT is viewed as both a religious, moral, and historical document. When you look at it, you have to look at what part you are reading from. The later portions by far have true historical events; such as, the building of the first temple and the destruction of Israel. Many of the main religious tenets of Judaism are found in the Pentuach, the first five books.
The OT has not been continued as a historical document. As I said, there are histories within it. The Talmud is just reflections and discussions about the OT. The best place to learn more about the history is through a history book.