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not a spoon
January 20th, 2003, 2:26 am
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i'm just wondering what everyone thinks. i know that at the end of GoF fleur said something to the effect of hoping to get a teaching job... and a lot of people seem to think arabella figg from the "old crowd" will be the new teacher.
i'm leaning slightly toward mrs figg, mostly because of her age and the experience we get the impression that she has, seeing as she was in the old crowd.
what do you think?
HbAznKyootie
January 20th, 2003, 2:28 am
yeah, i also think mrs.figg, since fleur doesnt seem to have enough experiance (ie the grindylows in the second task)
hopefully, mrs.figg will last longer than a year. :)
Picko
January 20th, 2003, 2:42 am
It'll be Mrs Figg after all what could Fleur teach the likes of Harry? Not a lot.
nimbus2006
January 20th, 2003, 2:52 am
Mrs. Figg. Definately. Plus, how cool would that be to see how much she knows compared to having thousands of pictures of cats?! :p
dracofan
January 20th, 2003, 3:09 am
Figg all the way. No other choice except maybe Mrs. Weasley
Oddfellow
January 20th, 2003, 3:25 am
Figg, she has experience on fighting the Dark Arts (assumed)
Tiberius
January 20th, 2003, 3:35 am
Mrs Figg, the DADA teacher, who trips over her cats. That's such a funny Image.
"Now, class, always be one the gaurd for, WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!"
GodricSlytherin
January 20th, 2003, 3:42 am
Fleur will just be there to help around or something. MAybe with Miss Figg. OR she may help with ancient Runes.
nuffer
January 20th, 2003, 3:46 am
Fleur said she was going to get a job at Hogwarts, not that she was going to teach there. It's entirely possible that she'll be supervising the house elves or something.
If Figg was set to watch over Harry on Privet Drive, we know that she's skilled in DaDA, so it seems pretty reasonable that she'll be DaDA teacher unless JKR introduces someone else.
Besides, as has been pointed out elsewhere, Fleur couldn't even get past the Grindylows, she's probably not up to the DaDA job, esp. now that DD knows Voldie's back.
dorcasderr
January 20th, 2003, 4:14 am
Good old Mrs. Figg all the way, which will actually be a plus for Harry...once he gets over the shock, because she knows him so well.
Qeomash
January 20th, 2003, 4:30 am
Originally posted by not a spoon
i'm just wondering what everyone thinks. i know that at the end of GoF fleur said something to the effect of hoping to get a teaching job...
Fleur never said a teaching job, but she did say job. Though I seriously doubt that she will be the DADA Teacher.
I think Arabella Figg is a good choice, though I wouldn't be opposed to an all new character, either!
(Though I'm willing to bet that whoever is chosen, they will only last a year. That's kinda turned into a running joke with JKR.)
Camo
January 20th, 2003, 5:01 am
Yeah, I reckon Figg as well, Fleur is way to inexperienced. Maybe she will be a teachers assistant or something, that is if she does come back.
Rowena Ravenclaw
January 20th, 2003, 5:03 am
Originally posted by Qeomash
(Though I'm willing to bet that whoever is chosen, they will only last a year. That's kinda turned into a running joke with JKR.)
One of these years, that's going to change, just 'cause we've all gotten so accustomed to it. (I'd bet on Years 6-7, though.)
Aspen
January 20th, 2003, 5:29 am
I don't know why but I've never thought about Figg being the DADA teacher before, that's a very good possibility!
go_anna40
January 20th, 2003, 6:42 am
I think that Figg will become the next DADA teacher. She's more likely to be part of the Order, and might go to Hogwarts.
Fleur is inexperienced, so I doubt it'll be her, but she could go on work-experience.
HbAznKyootie
January 20th, 2003, 8:13 am
yeah, im guessing fleur might be a teacher's assistant, like grading papers and stuff.
not a spoon
January 20th, 2003, 2:54 pm
i like that image with figg tripping over her numerous cats as she teaches. that would be hilarious.
do you think any DADA teacher will EVER last past one year? i think that rowena is right and somebody will, just because we're used to them going... being evil or something.
Puffskein
January 20th, 2003, 5:22 pm
It's a bit of a pattern, isn't it, the DADA teachers only lasting one year. It's getting a bit repetitive with them all having a secret...maybe one won't have a secret, but will get killed or otherwise incapacitated.
Fuchsia
January 20th, 2003, 5:24 pm
I think Puffskein is on to something. The new teacher will lose a leg.
PerenganoDeTal
January 20th, 2003, 5:46 pm
I think that Arabella Figg is part of the Order and therefore cannot teach, although I would like to she her with some sort of role at Hogwarts
Mrsfredweasley226
January 20th, 2003, 7:45 pm
I also agree that Mrs. Figg will be the DADA teacher and hopefully will stay more then a year. Maybe Fleur will become another teacher but it seems doubtful
nuffer
January 20th, 2003, 7:50 pm
Why can't a member of the Order teach?
Qeomash
January 20th, 2003, 8:14 pm
Originally posted by nuffer
Why can't a member of the Order teach?
It is supsed that this Arabella Figg (Mrs. Figg) is part of the order. And JKR said that the new DADA Teacher was a female, so that kinda narrows the possiblities.
nuffer
January 20th, 2003, 8:30 pm
Originally posted by Qeomash
It is supsed that this Arabella Figg (Mrs. Figg) is part of the order. And JKR said that the new DADA Teacher was a female, so that kinda narrows the possiblities.
Right, I understand that she may be part of the order, and that the new DaDA teacher is supposed to be female. In fact, I believe Figg will be the DaDA teacher, and would not be surprised if she is also part of the Order of the Phoenix, seeing as she's a member of the "old crowd" that supposedly worked against Voldie.
What I don't understand is PerenganoDeTal's assertion that being a member of the Order excludes Mrs. Figg from teaching.
Bilbo
January 22nd, 2003, 12:28 am
The DADA has either been one of Voldemort's supporters or an old friend of Dumbledore's. The exception being Lockhart, who was just an idiot.
Since the last book found us with a pro-Voldemort DADA teacher, most likely (and I won't completely omitt Fluer from the possibility) it will be Figg.
After all, JKR said we would learn "all about her."
Ashkins
January 22nd, 2003, 1:05 am
First year Voldy supporter
Second year idiot
Third year DD friend and former student
4th year DD friend who turned out to be an imposter and Voldy supporter.
So its time for a real friend or idiot .. ;) I am going for Mrs Figg
honeyelle
January 22nd, 2003, 1:31 am
If Mrs Figg is going to be the DADA teacher for this year, then that'll make Puffskein right. Each of the DADA teachers will have had a secret that Harry's found out about. Mrs Figg known harry all his life, harry having to go over there and he's never known that she was a witch, I don't think he'll be able to say Professor Figg, she'll always be Mrs Figg to him. And I only hope as she was always kind to Harry when he was over at her place (I mean in the way that she at least let harry eat!!!) that she stays longer than one year.
gred&forge4ever
January 22nd, 2003, 2:41 pm
I think that Mrs Figg will be both part of the order and the new DADA teacher. She can be both. After all, McGongall and Snape both teach and found time to be involved in protecting the Stone, being head of house etc.
At one point Hagrid said that a DADA teacher had not lasted more that one year in "quite a while". Since the revelation about Mrs . Figg being in OoP, I have thought that she is the past DADA teacher and will return to the post in OoP. I also think that she will stay, as I think it will take more thant one book to defeat Voldie.
Scene- Mrs Figg trips over Mrs. Norris and spills boil potion all over Snape :lol:
lee214
January 22nd, 2003, 2:52 pm
How about the real Mad Eye Moody as the DADA teacher?
1MelissaPotter
January 22nd, 2003, 5:37 pm
I think its going to be Mrs. Figg, i read somewhere that JK Rowling said it was going to be her! And she'll stay for at least 2 years.
:love:
lanifiel
January 22nd, 2003, 6:15 pm
Errrr I'm not really fond of either of them being the DADA teacher...
JoFaye
January 22nd, 2003, 6:22 pm
I'm not crazy about either as choice, but much better Figg. I don't want Fleur to be that important and get too much print. Don't care for the Veela too awful much my self. I think maybe Prof. Dumbledore's letter to the Dursleys mentioned Mrs. Figg as a safe sitter for Harry. Otherwise the Dursleys were much too good to talk to the eccentric lady on the block. Personally I like elderly eccentric ladies and think she'd be great fun in the books.
roz
January 23rd, 2003, 9:58 am
If all we know is that the new DADA teacher is going to be female, how about Molly Weasly? Now that Ginny is at school she doesn't have much to do with her time, they need the money, esp. if Arthur is going to annoy his collegues by supporting Dumbledore, and DD trusts her (enough that she got to see Sirius transform). I think there may be hidden talents in her.
Roz.
JoFaye
January 24th, 2003, 6:08 pm
Oh, Roz! I hope you're right. I love Molly.
HandsClean
January 24th, 2003, 8:16 pm
Fig, not Fleur, I think Fleur cann't be a really good teacher.
not a spoon
January 25th, 2003, 1:38 am
the mrs weasley theory is a good one. i hadn't thought of that before... i like mrs weasley. seeing more of her would be very nifty.
Rowena Ravenclaw
January 25th, 2003, 3:01 am
Much as I love the idea of Mrs. Weasley as DADA teacher (not to mention the comic possibilities in how Ron would deal with the situation ;) ), it doesn't seem likely to me. Why wouldn't Dumbledore have considered her for the post earlier? Ginny will have been at school for four years by Phoenix, and heaven knows the Weasleys could use the extra paycheck.
FalconPhoenix
January 25th, 2003, 4:07 am
I think mrs Figg will be the DaDa teacher, it just makes more sense. I think i remeber readin somewheer that Mrs Figg will ether definately be the new yeacher, or we will learn more about her. i dont think Fluer will be, because she really doesnt have enought experiance. I think she will be an assistant or somethin along those lines. Althogh i must say i enjoy the thought of mrs Weasley being the daDa teach. because it WOULD be funny to see how all the Weasley kids react to it. And i like Mrs. W. she has my name:cool: But its more likely that it will be Figg
Ashkins
January 25th, 2003, 4:29 am
I had never thought about Mrs Weasley being any kind of teacher but as I think about it more and more I think she would make a wonderful teacher or adult helper there at the school to keep an extra eye on her kids.
Doesn't DD need a secretary??
thecrayon
January 26th, 2003, 2:28 am
i dunno. everyone thinks figg, but i think it will be fleur. i have no idea why. i mean, it's probably going to be figg but something just makes me think fleur...
Charmed
January 27th, 2003, 6:02 am
Figg no questions asked.Surely to become a teacher in the wizarding world you would have to have some sort of qualification.
jr119us
January 27th, 2003, 6:06 am
Fleur isnt experienced enough, do we even know if shes done with school yet? and if she is, her first job wouldnt be teaching...just doesnt make sense. I dont think the foreign students like Krum and Fleur will play much of a part in the rest of the series
preludetoadream
April 12th, 2003, 6:59 am
Personally I don't think Mrs Figg will be the next DADA teacher I think she is much more important and I've got a threadHere (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7880) with my theory I'm interested to know what people think :)
Ok threads closed now cause it fits in here I've put it below :)
preludetoadream
April 12th, 2003, 7:06 am
Ok I've been asked to add my theorie here so here goes, and let me know what you think :D
Since JK has said Mrs Figg that looked after Harry is the same Mrs Figg that Dumbledore lists when he says to Sirius Black "You are to alert Remus Lupin Arabella Figg, Mundungus Fletcher -the old crowd." And has also said the new defence against dark arts teacher is female most people agree with the theory Mrs Figg is the new teacher, but I think JK has let these two facts out knowing people would think this. I think she has a bigger better shock for us all, Mrs Figg is in fact Harry's grandmother, and if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Here is why:
I think when James and Lily where killed by Voldermort, James's mother was still alive. And as any grandmother would she wanted to have Harry, but Dumbledore knew if Voldermort where to ever rise, Harry would be a easy target with his grandmother. So instead he suggested that Harry live with the Dursleys, and to keep him safe his grandmother be a secret keeper for Harry's location, that way if Voldermort returned he would never be able find Harry. After all that was the idea of Peter Pettigrew being the secret keep for James and Lily. And who better to trust as Harry's secret keeper than his grandmother? Also by moving near Harry it would be easy to develop some type of relationship with him. Think about it if one day she saw Harry with the Dursleys and commented on how sweet he was or some thing, and said if they ever needed some one to look after him she'd help, the Dursleys would jump at the chance to have some where to dump Harry.
Some other things are, In the first book when Dumbledore and McGonagall are leaving Harry Dumbledore says it's the best place for Harry not the only place. Also when the Weasley's want Harry to stay all summer Dumbledore says no to all summer because Harry is safe with the Dursleys, which he would be if she is a secret keeper
In the name meanings, Figg means not literal, and concealing some thing. Which makes sense for two reasons, not only is she concealing Harry from Voldermort, but her Real name would be Mrs Potter, meaning her name is not 'literally' Figg.
JK has also said in this book we will find out more about James's family who better to tell Harry than his Grandmother?
The Dursleys hated the Potters so much they would have never known any thing about James's family let alone seen his mother before she became 'Mrs Figg'.
Hpmons
April 12th, 2003, 1:46 pm
"A Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher with a personality like poisoned honey."
It doesnt sound like Mrs Figg OR Fleur to me. Mrs Figg is described as being quite mad, but still nice. Fleur is a bit self-important, but still doesnt have a bad personality.
EDIT: My friend said she thought Fleur was a bit like poisoned honey though, sweet on the inside; but maybe she does secretly does have a bad personality.
supernatural
April 12th, 2003, 2:10 pm
nice theory about the grandmother there- but i think maybe not- hopefully i am wrong because i love it when i'm surprised, but i think maybe not.
I'm sure dumbledore would have wanted harry to be raised by someone who loved him and brought him up to know about magic and his family. I think it would be cruel of them to deprive harry of this.
the poisened honey quote doesn't sound like either women, possibly more fleur- but i just cant see her as teacher- she didn't even make it underwater to save her sister in GoF!!! i cant see her knowing enough to teach!!!
:cool:
She's Crafty
April 12th, 2003, 3:40 pm
Time to toss in my two Knuts -
First off, i warn the next person who even so much as dares to say the name 'Fleur Delacour' in connection with being the new DADA that i seriously will Crucio them. Ok, i wouldn't really do that but it does annoy me, i mean let's all use our common sense people!
Fleur is just not experienced enough. With Voldemort setting out to rule them all she would be the absolute LAST person i would want teaching me Defense Against The Dark Arts. Also, reading her accent was just **** painful - it reminded me of that woman out of 'Allo 'Allo who used to say 'Listen carefully, i shall zay zis only once' only, you know, not funny.
Arabella Figg seems far more likely. But somebody else came out with another interesting theory - Narcissa Malfoy. Now there would be a woman i could guarantee has a personality like poisened honey. Also, i found her brief introduction in GoF interesting, you know how JKR likes to drop in names that will become important later.
Hpmons
April 12th, 2003, 3:51 pm
FD will be one of the few who apply though. A lot of people think that the DADA position is jinxed; but since she is foreign, she will not know.
Arabella Figg would make sense, but I just feel it wont be - for a start, the phrase "personality like poisoned honey" doesnt fit her - if she is one of the "old crowd" then she would be a nice person. Apart from the book five summary, it would make sense.
BUT - I do like the idea of Narcissa Malfoy! But I cant see her for two reasons:
1. Why would she want to apply? (she seems more of a trophy wife to me, and I cant imagine Lucius would want her to) and
2. Why would Dumbledore accept her?
FD seems most likely to me, but Im sure we will see a lot more of Narcissa.
Auri DeMeer
April 12th, 2003, 4:47 pm
Originally posted by Hpmons (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=263061#post263061))
Arabella Figg would make sense, but I just feel it wont be - for a start, the phrase "personality like poisoned honey" doesnt fit her - if she is one of the "old crowd" then she would be a nice person.
Why? She can be a strong Dumbledore supporter in the old-crowd and still be not popular or not "nice" to students.
I put my bet on Arabella Figg. She may still fit the "poisoned honey" description, since we know little about her personality.
sugarquill
April 12th, 2003, 6:36 pm
No I dont think its figg. I think that the DADA will be a new character, JK always introduces new ones and I think that the DADA will be one of them. I do think that it will be a woman tho, the poisoned honey sounds very feminin. I hope its not figg pulling a Snape, you know, I'm evil yet stangely compelled to do the right thing. If she is a she Snape I hope she has better hair.
Hpmons
April 12th, 2003, 7:07 pm
Well, in the first book she is reasonable nice, a little mad; but allowed Harry to eat some chocolate cake. And Dumbledore wouldnt have her if he knew she was going to be nasty to students - and it sounds like he knows her pretty well. Its still a possibility, but I personally dont believe it.
H0gwartz
May 5th, 2003, 11:33 am
I think its gona be fleur because she said she might be coming back lol. jsut a thought.
Thread edited by Rotsie: Please do not post book five spoilers in threads other than the book five discussion thread.
Thanks!
Imperio! (Crucio!)
May 5th, 2003, 11:40 am
(isnt there already a thread like this :??: ) i think its gonna be mrs figg (harrys babba sitter)
Mad Macca
May 5th, 2003, 11:56 am
I think there was until Morgoth had an accident with all the threads and deleted them all, but they will slowly come back, and when they do, I think there is a topic like this already, otherwise, there are heaps already about the DADA postion and its teachers.
aiko amaya
May 5th, 2003, 3:45 pm
yeah there probably is another one floating somewhere. I put my money on Ms.Figg though, she seems liek a likely candidate. Fleur not so much because she's fresh out of school . HOw much expirience with the dark arts could she have. And I trhink those classes will be much more important now that Voldermort has risen.
Alastor D
May 5th, 2003, 4:41 pm
Yes, there was a thread. Almost every female character we know has been suggested.
I think this will be merged or closed very soon.
Llopin
May 5th, 2003, 5:15 pm
It is discussed in many threads, including the Book 5 discussion thread (with spoilers), the new and recurring characters thread and a few more. I don't know if this will be closed at all, but it has been discussed many many times.
Anne
May 5th, 2003, 9:09 pm
Originally posted by Mad Macca (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=304945#post304945))
I think there was until Morgoth had an accident with all the threads and deleted them all, but they will slowly come back, and when they do, I think there is a topic like this already, otherwise, there are heaps already about the DADA postion and its teachers.
Just to let you know, the threads have not been deleted. They were all accidentally moved into one giant invisible forum, and we're moving them back one by one, so it's going to take a while. I will personally find the thread you're talking about and merge it with this one. :)
RogueRiver
May 5th, 2003, 11:02 pm
I don't know what was said before, but I think the new Hogwarts DADA teacher could be a transplant from Durmstrang, where they've been teaching Dark Arts.
Perdita
May 6th, 2003, 12:46 am
Originally posted by nuffer (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=140532#post140532))
Right, I understand that she may be part of the order, and that the new DaDA teacher is supposed to be female. In fact, I believe Figg will be the DaDA teacher, and would not be surprised if she is also part of the Order of the Phoenix, seeing as she's a member of the "old crowd" that supposedly worked against Voldie.
What I don't understand is PerenganoDeTal's assertion that being a member of the Order excludes Mrs. Figg from teaching.
I’m not sure what PerenganoDT meant, but I have a question based on his idea, sort of.
If Figg is supposed to be a member of the Order, and has been called back to help fight Voldemort (a covert mission, presumably) then where will that leave her time to be teaching a full courseload at Hogwarts?
I am assuming that the covert missions to fight Voldemort will involve a lot of field work, such as infiltration and espionage. I just can’t see how she can do all of this at the same time.
Unless, her role as the DADA teacher is part of her covert mission? But how could it be?
Could she appear in disguise as a DD dissenter, and later turn out to be Figg, a DD supporter? But would this not be recycling the plot twist of Mad Eye Moody and Crouch Jr.?
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Re: Molly Weasley
When and where did we get info about her DADA abilities? She has always been portrayed as the wise and loving mother and wife. It would seem very contrived if, all of a sudden she turns into this DADA master. I think Rowena R. raised a very good point about why DD didn’t hire her earlier if she is indeed certified. This idea sounds even more fantastical than the Fleur Delacour one.
tarachristwen
May 6th, 2003, 3:18 am
i would prefer figg as the DADA teacher because she is more older and experienced than fleur who had just finished her final year.
Vyvyan Weasley
May 6th, 2003, 3:26 am
OKay....we've heard all of the theories that make sense (and will probably come to pass) Now for something a bit more off the wall...
...What if the female DADA is none other than........Minerva McGonagall?
Perhaps this would give us a close up view of Dumbledore in his old position as transfiguration teacher. Maybe Sirius Black as a guest lecturer (assuming he ever gets cleared by the ministry, but that's another story).
Dunno, just wanted to try a little different mix :p
H0gwartz
May 6th, 2003, 3:33 am
wow thats actually quite an interesting thought get some facts to back it up and ill be rocking to that song
Lestrange
May 6th, 2003, 3:40 am
Originally posted by Vyvyan Weasley (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=306112#post306112))
OKay....we've heard all of the theories that make sense (and will probably come to pass) Now for something a bit more off the wall...
...What if the female DADA is none other than........Minerva McGonagall?
Perhaps this would give us a close up view of Dumbledore in his old position as transfiguration teacher. Maybe Sirius Black as a guest lecturer (assuming he ever gets cleared by the ministry, but that's another story).
Dunno, just wanted to try a little different mix :p
...Or Mundungus Fletcher could be the new Transfiguration teacher :) ...Lol, I really want to see that character in later books....He seems so eccentric...or maybe Aberforth Dumbledore. :clappy:
Girl
May 6th, 2003, 7:35 am
For the new DADA teacher I don't don't think it will be Fleur. Yes, she did say she wanted to get a job at Hogworts to improve her english but can she teach the DADA subject? She is just out of school and doesn't have much expericence in the dark arts. How can you teach a subject so important if you don't have the knowlage? If Fleur does come to Hogsworts it will be as a teacher aid. This is because for one her english is not that good and she would need to imporove her english so that the students won't misunderstand her. Two it will give her the chance to get the feel of teaching and not be thrown in head first. Most new teachers start out as aids to teachers as they get a chance to easy their way in. It will make less of a shock and you will know what to expect when you start teaching.
As for the new DADA teacher it could be Mrs Figg. I don't see why not. Just because she is part of the "old crowd". Dosen't mean she can't be a teacher. If anything I would think Dumbledore would want a member of the "old crowd" to teach. This is because they can teach the students about what it was like to fight Voldermort.
But then the new DADA teacher could be someone we've never seen befor.
Prof.Aze
May 6th, 2003, 1:58 pm
I will have to go with Mrs. Figg as DADA teacher because i think Mrs. Figg has a lot of experience in the dark arts compared to Fleur. Maybe Fleur will till get a job at Hogwarts but as an assistant or something. Maybe assitant to Mrs. Figg or Madam Pomfrey. :p
kfingers
June 19th, 2003, 10:47 pm
I don't think it would be either of those because they're the first people to come to mind. As soon as Rowling said it will be a woman a long time ago, your first thought would be those two, but when does Rowling ever give you what you expect.
R3mus Lup!n
June 19th, 2003, 10:49 pm
What if both arabella figg and fleur will not be DAtDA teacher then who will be?
oh no.....Rita Skeeter?Mrs weasley?
pineapple
June 19th, 2003, 11:04 pm
Fleur doesn't strike me as the type of person who is READY to become a teacher to a bunch of pre-teens and teens. In the future perhaps, but not now.
As to Ms. Figg, I think that would be interesting...I've always wondered how deep into the wizarding world she goes.
Ms. Weasley?? That'd be interesting for many characters. How would Ron react to his mother teaching him? And Harry and Hermione? What about Malfoy, who doesn't seem to favor the Weasleys (understatement!)? Does she know much about DAtDA?
Tsar
June 19th, 2003, 11:05 pm
My vote is for Figg Fleur is only a whippersnapper with very limited experience in DADA
R3mus Lup!n
June 19th, 2003, 11:11 pm
Nah,just jking bout mrs weasley.But Imagine rita skeeter!Maybe she is back to take revenge on hermione.
AndyB
June 19th, 2003, 11:11 pm
JK said during tonights interview with Jeremy Paxman that the new DADA teacher is a woman but won't be Mrs Figgs or Fleur.
What about Rita Skeeter?
sindatur
June 19th, 2003, 11:14 pm
Well I figured Fluer was out, no experience. But Figg I was fooled into believing.
So, now I guess we're back to Rita, Narcissa, or someone unexpected or unknown
Heen05
June 19th, 2003, 11:15 pm
Post removed.
Tsar
June 19th, 2003, 11:16 pm
I am curious shouldn't this thread be merged with the thread talking about the possibility of Mrs Figg or Fleur being the new teacher
Remus81
I meant no disrespect I fI have offended I apologize
Peace
Tsar
remus81
June 19th, 2003, 11:19 pm
Well, that is negative one for me on the Book 5 Predictions Challenge! Oh well, but please do not post spoilers, probably a good idea to review the spoiler policy, (even links are against policy)
Barbara Kennedy
June 19th, 2003, 11:19 pm
I wouldn't say it Heen05, not if you want to remain on the forums.
AndyB
June 19th, 2003, 11:26 pm
How is it that the title of this thread has changed?
Heen05
June 19th, 2003, 11:29 pm
i wont say it. but-- nm...just not gonna talk anymore lol.
AndyB
June 19th, 2003, 11:31 pm
That wasn't very subtle
Thyme_of_Change
June 19th, 2003, 11:41 pm
Whoever the new DAD teacher is, it has to be someone DD trusts.
Hermione
June 19th, 2003, 11:48 pm
I highly doubt that the new DADA teacher will be Rita Skeeter. She's a reporter and I truely believe that she enjoys that profession, I can't see her giving up the 'fame and credibilty' ,which I use very lightly, that she has earned to become a teacher at Hogwarts. I don't really think that she know enough to become a defense against the dark arts teacher either and highly doubt that Dumbledore would trust her with a postion like that.
Strobe
June 19th, 2003, 11:51 pm
Isn't Rita supposed to be a bug for some time still, anyway? I thought her "prison term" won't be served by the time Hogwarts starts.
Whoever the teacher is, I'm excited. I'm glad that there is one more surprise to look forward to ;)
-Strobe *
AndyB
June 19th, 2003, 11:53 pm
It probably isn't Rita but the character that Heen05 is "hinting" at is even less trustworthy than Rita.
Heen05
June 20th, 2003, 12:31 am
Heen05 this is your one and only warning. DO NOT PUT HINTS TO SPOILERS IN THESE THREADS! Also do not ask people to PM you for answers, I will ban you if I see it from you again.
InvasionOfTheGuru4
June 20th, 2003, 12:34 am
Here is my theory:
I think Mrs. Figg has a better chance then Fleur. She is older and more wiser. It would make sense because maybe Harry would find out about the real Mrs. Figg.
MadMagic
June 20th, 2003, 12:36 am
I have become so convinced that it is Mrs. Figg that I will be absolutely shocked (but probably a good shocked) if it is not. I have recently come up with another entertaining theory for what role Figg could play, that was not a teacher, so I can amuse myself with that. I think that Mrs. Figg is the only character we have heard of that could be the new DADA teacher. Fluer isn't old enough, and no other character seems like they are looking for a job. I'm sure I will be suprosed though!
Strongy
June 20th, 2003, 12:52 am
This is what JKR said in an interview on tv
JK ROWLING: Yes. And it's not Fleur which everyone on the internet speculates about. And it's not ...Who's the other one they keep asking about? Mrs Figg. It's not Mrs. Figg. I've read both of those.
who could it been then :s
rettopyrrah
June 20th, 2003, 12:53 am
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE COOL TO SEE AUNT PETUNIA AS THE NEW D.A.D.A TEACHER. THINK ABOUT IT. I KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING UP WITH HER, THEN THERE WOULD BE TWO TEACHERS THAT DESPISE HARRY. WHAT AN INTERESTING YEAR I'D SAY!
PhoenixFly
June 20th, 2003, 12:56 am
It has confirmed that neither Fleur nor Mrs. Figg will be the new DADA teacher by Mrs. Rowling. I read this in an interview she had. This could be interesting to see who gets the job. I think somewhere she said it would be female, but I'm not sure.
Metabee
June 20th, 2003, 1:48 am
One person said it's a new character named Prof. Snide :-0
I heart Sirius
June 20th, 2003, 1:57 am
I just have this feeling it'll be Narcissa. I want to see more of Draco's mummy!
Linnea
June 20th, 2003, 2:16 am
(from a chat transcript)
JK ROWLING: Obviously a new Defence against the Dark Arts teacher.
JEREMY PAXMAN: Is that going to be a woman?
JK ROWLING: Yes. And it's not Fleur which everyone on the internet speculates about. And it's not ...Who's the other one they keep asking about? Mrs Figg. It's not Mrs. Figg. I've read both of those.
-Linnea
inlovewithdraco
June 20th, 2003, 2:21 am
i think that who ever is the new teacher is hase to end up leaving at the end all the teachers seam to leave or die at the end of the book wierd
DarlingChild
June 20th, 2003, 3:57 am
At this point, with my idea of the new DADA teacher being Mr. Figg having just been squashed...I have absolutely no idea who it will be. Perhaps Professor Grubbly-Plank? :p I doubt it. Guess I'll just have to wait the excruciating next 24 hours to find out :D
Ilovefredandgeorge
June 20th, 2003, 4:02 am
i heard from anewspaper article that the new DADA teacher was a female that we don't "think" we noe... hhhhmmm
Ilovefredandgeorge
June 20th, 2003, 4:03 am
Perhaps the author of the DADA books??
Jinxie Cat
June 20th, 2003, 4:09 am
When I read the transcript in which JKR said the new teacher would not be Mrs. Figg or Fleur... I was completely shocked! My guess from the beginning had always been Mrs. Figg. My second guess was Fleur. But now that I think about it, I agree with I heart Sirius. I think it might be Narcissa Malfoy. She was introduced to us in GoF and we know absolutely nothing about her. She never spoke or did anything. I think we'll learn more about her and she might be the new teacher. She looks like she could fit the description 'and a new teacher with a personality like poisoned honey'....
Tsar
June 20th, 2003, 4:10 am
I originally assumed the DADA teacher would be Figg since I think she will be some from whom little is expected or someone whose power is understimated.
Another possibility is Doris Crockford.
I doubt Molly Weasley would take the position as it could be used as ammunition to discredit the school by alledgeing a conflict of interest
since both Fred and George as seventh years would be taking the advanced class and learning the Unforgivable Curses.
Peace,
Tsar
Oreocookie thanks for pointing that out about Fred and George
Jinxie Cat
June 20th, 2003, 4:13 am
:o At one point today... I thought Molly Weasley could be the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher... But I can't see her doing it. Although it would be a surprise if she was. Maybe Tsar brings up a good point... It could be Doris Crockford... But just so you know, Fred and George are going to be seventh years not sixth years!
The DADA teacher I think will be some from whom little is expected or someone whose power is understimated.
Perhaps you're right...
MadMagic
June 20th, 2003, 4:18 am
Maybe it will be Aunt Petunia! Ergh, that was a joke.
Hmm, not Mrs. Figg...I have no idea then. Dumbledore would not hire Narcisis Malfoy with Voldemort on the rise. Unless Fudge takes over the running of the school, Mrs. Malfoy would not be a teacher. I guess it could be the author of the books. Or maybe Madam Maxime? I feel like there are a limited number of grown female witches that could take the job. 24 hours (a lilttle bit more) and all my questions will be answered...
K.K. Slider
June 20th, 2003, 4:32 am
Mabie the new DADA teach will be JKR ;) ;)
Jinxie Cat
June 20th, 2003, 4:35 am
That would be quite a surprise if Aunt Petunia was the new DAtDA Teacher! Maybe, that's the thing 'that comes from the Dursleys'... I'm only kidding though! Although if that did happen... :scared: I see no reason why Narcissa could not be the new teacher. She hasn't done anything wrong that we know of...
MadMagic
June 20th, 2003, 4:41 am
As I understand it, Dumbledoe hires all the new teachers (with approval from the MoM). I don't think he would hire someone who is a suspected suporter of Voldemort. He is all about protecting Harry, and having a bad guy/girl at Hogwarts wouldn't seem like a good way to protect him.
springthing24
June 20th, 2003, 4:53 am
well adding more protection for harry....that sounds a little weird, i mean harry has proved that he is brave and can take care of himself for the most part, u can only protect him so much, but why would you want to? then he would just be living this sheilded life, and he wouldn't find out any truth about anything like his parents death or voldemort
Bouncing_Ferret
June 20th, 2003, 5:01 am
Originally posted by MadMagic (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=385617#post385617))
As I understand it, Dumbledoe hires all the new teachers (with approval from the MoM). I don't think he would hire someone who is a suspected suporter of Voldemort. He is all about protecting Harry, and having a bad guy/girl at Hogwarts wouldn't seem like a good way to protect him.
That's what I considered when I thought of Narcissa as the new DADA teacher, but I'm even more sure that there's way more to Narcissa than we think. We know pretty much for sure that she isn't a death eater, because she wasn't at the reunion in the cemetery (unless Voldemort didn't see her or something?), so perhaps she's actually one of the good guys, and Dumbledore does trust her.
I for one would love to see Narcissa as DADA teacher, but I'm not going to make too many predictions as I have a feeling they'll all be proved incorrect less than twenty four hours from now! :D
-Jemma
Strobe
June 20th, 2003, 5:37 am
Maybe it's Neville's grandmother? Oh, if it is...poor Neville!
I think Narcissa is more likely ("hello Professor Malfoy!") but:
a) we don't know much about Granny Longbottom
b) I'm sure her personality would be like "poisoned honey."
So she could fit, according to our clues.
-Strobe *
Jinxie Cat
June 20th, 2003, 6:17 am
I really don't have a definite answer as to who will be the new DAtDA teacher. It'll probably be someone brand new that we've never been introduced to before. All of the other DAtDA teachers were introduced when they became the teacher. Quirrel was introduced in the first, although we couldn't have heard about him before! Lockhart was introduced in the second and never before. Lupin was introduced in the third and never before. Moody was introduced in the fourth and never before that. So maybe JKR will continue her pattern and the new teacher will be someone brand new that we've never been introduced to before. :)
XanderTheMighty
June 20th, 2003, 6:19 am
Maybe it's Winky. House elfs are powerful and maybe she becomes disgruntled taking care of two spoilers. Okay so I don't really have any new theories... but beware the house elfs... no wait that would be elves wouldn't it.
My Galleons are on Narcissa Malfoy now that Mrs. Figg is out of the running. For some reason I got the impression that she is on the good side even though she is only in the fourth book for a fraction of a chapter. Although the track records with DADAs are kinda bad... so far it's 1/4 that haven't tried to hurt Harry.
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 6:22 am
Ill bet all the money I own that it is a new chracter that hasn't been mentioned in the books before.
So far in every book a brand new chracter was introduced as th DADA teacher, so it's probably a way for JKR to introduce new important chracters.
keskin_snape
June 20th, 2003, 9:49 am
Yep, I reckon it'll be a brand new character that we havn't seen or heard of before.
hedwig7
June 20th, 2003, 10:28 am
WELL im a bit behind the times here, i just read the interview and that squashed all the Mrs Figg and Fleur theories....
i can't wait 13 hours and 15 minutes to find out!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
anyway it could be Narcissa, Madame Maxime (ok wild thought- Rita Skeeter!) nah just joking!!! wouldn't it be funny if Snape had a g/f or wife that teaches at another school and she was like him? sort-of with a personality like poisoned honey????
only 13 hours and 15mins to go (for me!)
Edit: keskin_snape yes well im from Australia and stores in my region aren't allowed to sell till 9:01am (thats like 13 hours away!) but in Sydney they get theirs at like 7am and we don't even have daylight saving at this time of year!!! its ridiculous!!!
keskin_snape
June 20th, 2003, 10:51 am
I'm hoping for a bit of Snape romance....... but I doubt he has a partner already. Somehow I get the feeling hes still single.
and now........ I'm off to bed. Its Exactly 10pm June 20th. OOTP is going to be in my hands by lunchtime! [heres hoping]
Stores aren't allowed to sell until 11:01 am June 21st, so its about the same time as midnight in england.
emikkime
June 20th, 2003, 12:00 pm
I defiently think it will be someone new! I mean, JK introduced new DADA teachers every book, so why not in this book. I can't imagine this DADA teacher dieing, so I'm going to predict they're leaving, but I don't think they're going to be ashamed or anything. Maybe, they become Care of Magical Creatures teacher if Hagrid dies, Potions if Snape dies, and worst of all Headmistress if DD dies!:'( Or they could always kill off DD, and make Lockhart the new headmaster:p
Hermione's Twin
June 20th, 2003, 1:04 pm
I dont see it being someones mother/relative as a teacher I think that even though Narcissa isn't a death eater if Lucius was to rejoin Voldemort in his quest then Narcissa would follow her husband.
My guess to the new DADA teacher is the Ravenclaw ghost "The Grey Lady"
Freak_0v_Nature
June 20th, 2003, 1:13 pm
**Edit by the Staff:: this part is a spoiler, some people might not want to know about this so its been removed.**
My personal theory is that Rita Skeeter would be the new DADA teacher. Its a long shot but she IS supposed to be keeping her quil to herself for a whole year, she does need something to do...
ArabellaBlack
June 20th, 2003, 1:42 pm
Who are all the characters who qualify? I thought J.K. alluded that it's someone unexpected, though we've met or at least heard of her before... or perhaps I'm just daft. Because we've never met our DADA teachers in previous books, you know, Lupin was never mentioned, or Gilderoy Lockhart, or Moody.
Schlubalybub
June 20th, 2003, 1:49 pm
I didnt think that was s spoiler that freak ov nature wrote, mind you, im not bothered bout spoilers, so maybe i dont count!
luv_HP
June 20th, 2003, 2:19 pm
I kind of doubt it's Mrs. Malfoy, just because, would Lucius let his wife be DEFENSE against the dark arts? think about it... I really can't put any other names out. 15 hours to go....for me :banghead:
xianpoxi
June 20th, 2003, 2:41 pm
Just when the theories are really well developed, but before anyone can learn conclusively.. JKR throws a wrench in :) Brilliant :) As far as the new theories go....
I really think it could be Rita Skeeter. Neville's Grandma is a good guess as well, but I don't really see Narcissa Malfoy as the DADA teacher. .. possible... but... thats a real stretch.
Neville's parents were Aurors and his gradma is pretty tough. I'm sure she knows her stuff.
On the Other hand Rita Skeeter has a 1 year time frame to do something. She ignores rules she doesn't like (no big loyalty to the Ministry of Magic, and we don't really know her yet, but we have enough reason to think we might. She's an animagus... thats not an easy task. I think Rita was Slytherin, but transfiguration tends to be the magic of choice for Gryffindors. Plenty of Reporters feel they are doing what is right in exposing the truth.. even if they are hopelessly self-righteous and destructive....
We will see soon :)
dantares
June 20th, 2003, 3:02 pm
I said it's Yvonne from book 1. She is Harry's secret keeper too.
sindatur
June 20th, 2003, 3:29 pm
Hedwig7, how interesting you suggest a G/F or Wife of Snape. I myself have humorously thought "Poisoned Honey" might be someone's honey (E: Main squeeze) and the poisoned part might be that they were a Voldemort supporter in disguise. Snape having the background he has, may end up being with someone from a questionable background/history.
Rotipher
June 20th, 2003, 3:49 pm
I've gone back to look at GoF, and found another possible clue to who might be the "poisoned honey": Professor Sinistra, whom I'd already suspected was a possible DADA candidate, was dancing with Moody at the big tri-school dance! Knowing what we now know about that year's DADA teacher, perhaps their "date" wasn't just for dancing.... ;-)
Alternatively, here's another candidate: Professor McGonegall! If DD loses his position as headmaster in favor of a MoM stooge, he'll still want to stay at Hogwarts, even if he's not running the place. So he might take over the Transfiguration classes (his previous specialty), leaving good ol' Prof. Kitty to instruct DADA. :-)
Both long shots, I'll admit ... but I guess we'll know in about 14 hours!
Chickadee
June 20th, 2003, 4:02 pm
I already know who it is :p Hehe
Freak_0v_Nature
June 20th, 2003, 4:25 pm
I didnt write a spoiler :( It was only a theory and I said it was only my personal theory. *sobs* I only wanted to join in :(
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 5:57 pm
I still think that its someone we havent met...
And it cant be Narcissa. Im pretty sure Dumbledore knows Lucius is a death eater. Do you think he'd let a death eaters wife teach a bunch of innocent kids right as Voldemort has returned? She could be passing information, doing exactly with Lucius what Snape thought Lupin was doing with Black. It would be a very stupid move on Dumbledores part...
MagpieOnaga
June 20th, 2003, 6:22 pm
Don't feel bad, Freak_ov_Nature! The staff aren't angry with you; they're just trying to keep this place completely clean as far as spoilers go. You can always post your personal theories!
Sorry if people here seem a bit hostile; it's just that the release is so close, and we don't want anything to be spoiled for us!
I hope you have a wonderful time reading OotP, and please continue posting here! We don't want to scare you away!
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 6:31 pm
There are a few clues pointing to Prof. Sinistra as the new DADA teacher. Look at her name- the closest word to Sinistra in English is sinister! Which might be a "poisoned honey" parallel. JKR uses quite a few in her books. Sinistra is female, and we'd basically be introduced to a new character (we don't really know that much about her, and JKR rarely puts characters into a story more than once unless they're significant). Also, JKR recently ruled these two people out in an interview yesterday: Fleur Delacour and Arabella Figg.
Narcissa is still a possibility, but I think she's a bit too obvious of a choice. Also, the fact that her husband got sacked as Governor may reflect badly on her chances of getting a job. However, we don't know how much control DD will have over who teaches at Hogwarts after GOF. I'm guessing he won't have as much liberty in choosing as he did in the previous 4 books. He may not even have the ability to decide who teaches and who doesn't. We'll find out tomorrow, I guess! :)
Tsar
June 20th, 2003, 6:52 pm
McKinnon02 that is an interesting I dea but do you think that they would allow her to teach astronomy and DADA.
Peace
Tsar
Addenum
I doubt Grandmother Longbootom would teach DADA for the same reasons as Molly Weasely. Because Like with Molly in would be a possible conflict of interest.
Katze
June 20th, 2003, 6:53 pm
I just don't see Mrs. Malfoy as teacher quality.
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 6:54 pm
I think Sinistra could switch if she needed to. She'd just have to prove that she knows enough about DADA to teach it.
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 7:09 pm
Why would it be Sinistra? Just because shes a chracter we havent heard much about? I mean, common, there really is no evidence/clues/back-ups to that theory besides her name. Plus shes already an astronomy teacher. I think if she was really so mean that at least Hermoine would have said something about it, seeing as how she takes Astronomy. And the clue "because she is a female" is probably the most un-specific clue I've ever seen.
Narcissa wont be a DADA teacher because of the reasons I already said... her husband is a death eater and that would be just plain dumb of DD to give her a job on Hogwarts grounds.
Its not Fleur or Figg because JKR already ruled them out.
Skeeter is the only other real choice that is not a new chracter, but she will probably be used in the story in other ways. Letting people know Black is still alive, constantly putting DD down for his attempts at getting rid of Voldemort who people don't even believe is actually back... she will be important, but not as a DADA teacher.
This only means that the only other choice is a new DADA teacher... shes introduced a new one every year so far, why would it change now?
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 7:12 pm
Moony, please be careful about posting spoilers. Go back and fix your post, the part about the two teachers that were ruled out.
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 7:20 pm
Um... ok... thats a spoiler? Thats just information that helps us form theories and rules theories out, not to mention it's already been posted on this thread two other times without a spoiler tag... but I guess I will if you see it as a spoiler...
sloth
June 20th, 2003, 7:28 pm
I think it's going to be Neville's Grandmother. She's very nice to Neville but also sends him the occasional howler. Sounds like poisoned honey to me. Plus with what happened to Neville's parents she would probably be inclined to be DADA teacher.
One other side note. Snape never gets along with the DADA usually for more reasons than just wanting that job. He may have a grudge since Neville made the Bogart where his Grandma's cloths.
HP_WizKid
June 20th, 2003, 7:33 pm
poisonous honey sounds to me as if its someone who on the outside is like honey but has a horrilbe and poisonous inside so it could be someone whos pretty and horrilbe or someon whos acts all nice and sucks up to DD but is really wretched person.Probably a new character because at the moment i cant think of anyone weve seen already like that.Anyway didnt the audio guy say there was a couple of new voices,i think is one of them.
bye,im going insane waitinggggggggg,ahh
rikuownsyou
June 20th, 2003, 7:42 pm
:rolleyes: In the interview on the website...the newest one..it says that its not Fleur or Mrs. Figg.....now its like who in the world could it possibly be??:??: the only peron other then those two that I can think off are Mrs. Wesaly..besides that nobody.:angel: I cannot till midnight..all mine.weee..I ahve no idea who it is now..;D
vagos
June 20th, 2003, 7:46 pm
i think poisoned honey is someone who is outside like poison but inside like honey.sth like snape:)
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 9:15 pm
Moony...I doubt it's Rita, because she was banned from the Hogwarts grounds. That leaves a choice between Sinistra and a new character.
vagos
June 20th, 2003, 9:26 pm
probably a new character
Nick Flamel
June 20th, 2003, 9:39 pm
JKR revealed in an interview that Mrs Figg nor Fleur will not be the new DADA teacher. I think that it is Narcissa Malfoy. The description of a personality like "poisoned honey" seems to fit her and since she would have close ties to Voldemort (Lucius, who I believe will play a greater part in this book is both a Death Eater and works at the ministry) she could be a very important part of the plot. Just what I think.
vagos
June 20th, 2003, 9:44 pm
i dont think she could be narcissa malfoy.i mean she's draco's mother it wouldn't be right for harry to have 2 teachers that hate him
talullah
June 20th, 2003, 9:46 pm
I'll say it again... there are always loads of new characters. Why shouldn't it be someone new? I personally think that with the "parting of the ways" and the Scholastic Review saying that Harry is frustrated with the seeming impotence of the leadership at the school... why would it be ANYONE DD would choose?
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 9:55 pm
There are still people at the Ministry who are loyal to Dumbledore. I think we may see the ministry split into two sides here, more than ever before- those loyal to DD, and those against him. The real power players, who have always pulled the strings, will be the ones who will convince Fudge to either go with or against DD's individual decisions and preferences. It's going to be a battle of finances, cunning and information that decides the amount of control DD has over the school. I'm positive Arthur Weasley is going to move up out of his position as it is now and into one of more power.
Narvi
June 20th, 2003, 10:08 pm
Hermione is sometimes like Poisoned Honey, I think. ;)
And am I the only one who doesn't like huge pictures in the signatures? Sorry, just had to say it... Anyway, I'm getting the book at midnight, won't be much longer now!
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:17 pm
I really don't think that it will be Narcissa. Skeeter is a good idea, she's definatly got a horrible personality. However as far as we know she's still sitting in a jar on Hermione's bed-side table. I don't think she will be in the DADA position but I do hope she'll be back. If she listens to Hermione she may be kinda nice in the next book. I would put my money on a new character. It's been a new character in every book so far. Possibly some foreshadow in that particular book but not in previous books.
Gred
June 20th, 2003, 10:24 pm
Im going for Mrs. Weasley I know it seems ridiculous but come on shes an extremly powerfull witch and if she really is to die in the upcoming book like some theories say it would give that more plausability
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 10:25 pm
Originally posted by McKinnon02 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=387100#post387100))
Moony...I doubt it's Rita, because she was banned from the Hogwarts grounds. That leaves a choice between Sinistra and a new character.
Whyd you address me? I said I don't think it's Rita Skeeter... read the entire paragraph, not just the first three words :rasp:
And theres still no evidence at all that it is Sinistra. We know virtually nothing about her, so I don't get how people could ever say it could be her without admitting it's a complete guess.
Also, it's NOT Narcissa because "the personality fits her". How do you know? Have you read some description of her that has not been included in the books? She actually seems like the best of the Molfoys to be honest, because she wouldn't let Draco go to Drumstang... but that's basically all we know about her.
And people, please don't think I'm attacking anyone, I just hate when people post ideas with no evidence at all and continue to back it up with no logical reasoning...
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:27 pm
Calm down Moony. I don't think it's Mrs. Weasley. She haesn't got a personality like poisioned-honey does she. But what exactly does poisioned-honey meany. Sweet and Mean at the same time is all I can come up with.
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 10:32 pm
*quietly spoken, in a dignified tone of voice* I did read your complete post, and if you'll read mine again, you'll see we were in complete agreement about Rita Skeeter. I wasn't arguing with you in the first place. I'm not backing Sinistra 100%, I just find it strange that she's been mentioned more than once and hasn't had a bigger role to play yet. JKR's characters rarely if ever appear more than once without playing a bigger role, and Sinistra has made more than two appearances. There's her name, and the fact that we know nothing about her. She would be like a new character, which goes alongside JKR"s pattern of bringing in new characters. She just seems likely to me, is all. And there is SOME reasoning behind it, whether you think it's logical or not is up to you. And if you're not insulting me, or anyone else, then why did you stick your tounge out?
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 10:35 pm
I don't know, Cobra. Remember in COS when the twins brought Harry to the Weasley house, for the first time? She yelled at the twins, greeted Harry kindly, and then yelled at the twins some more. It was like watching poison turn to honey turn to poison again.
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:36 pm
Yes Sinistra has been mentioned a few times but she/he is already a teacher. No teacher has switched positions... yet. Doesn't Sinista teach Astronomy? Maybe we'll see some Astronomy classes this year with the trio.
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:38 pm
Originally posted by McKinnon02 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=387344#post387344))
I don't know, Cobra. Remember in COS when the twins brought Harry to the Weasley house, for the first time? She yelled at the twins, greeted Harry kindly, and then yelled at the twins some more. It was like watching poison turn to honey turn to poison again.
You are exactly right. And in GOF she yells at the Twins about the Ton-Tounge-Toffees, and then was kissing and hugging them when they got back. Granted the situation was different, and they had all had a good night's sleep, but still I can't see Molly as a teacher. But of course it is quite possible.
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 10:38 pm
Yes, but I can see a teacher switching if it was necessary. She may teach both classes, or drop Astronomy for one year. DADA is a required course througout all 7 years, so a teacher is needed. I don't know if astronomy is or isn't, though.
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:40 pm
Wow McKinnon. We've got our own thread here.
I thought astronomy was a required course too. And for brief times in POA, Snape tought both Potions and DADA, so it is of course possible.
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 10:42 pm
Then why did I stick my tounge out? Lol, cause it was funny in my opinion. I'll do it again too :rasp: AND AGAIN :rasp:
Also, I'm not trying to argue with anyone. I'm just trying to debate. If you think you have reasoning, then say it! We each have our own opinions. That's what debate is. Just because I say I don't like theories with no evidence means that you should present evidence. Don't get defensive. Nobodies trying to argue, just debate theories and come up with new ones.
Now, back to the main topic. I highly, highly doubt that it's Sinistra still. I mean, just because shes mentioned her doesn't mean she needs a bigger part. It just means that she needs someone to teach astronomy, and that class hasn't been important yet, so there would be no need to discuss her.
Now, to end this post, :rasp: , :rasp: , and :rasp: :)
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 10:44 pm
Yes, we do have our own thread. And there's another instance where Mrs. Weasley was acting like poisoned honey. Remember at the end of GOF, when she (a) showed concern for Harry when he came up to the hospital wing, (b) hissed at her own kids to be quiet, (c) showed more concern for Harry, (d) flipped out when she found out Sirius black was an animagus, (e) kept showing concern for Harry, and told him to drink the rest of his potion. This lady switches emotions faster than anyone I've ever met in real life (except little kids, when they're fake crying and then get sidetracked.)
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 10:46 pm
Well I'm going to jump in on this thread too...
Mrs. Weasley does infact have the personality, but when did she ever display a knowledge of dark arts? I mean, it's possible she has some, but has any been mentioned yet?
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:47 pm
However, JK usually never introduces a character for no good reason. Sirius was mentioned once in the first book and then was a pillar in the third. He was mentioned once and Sinista has been mentioned many times. I believe that she will have a bigger role in later books, maybe not as DADA teacher but will have importance.
Well spotted again McKinnon02. That's the best evidence I've seen for any DADA teacher. I would now believe that is indeed Molly.
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 10:49 pm
Moony: In response to your :rasp:, :rasp: :rasp: :rasp: and :) I'll raise you a :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wacky: and :sigh:.
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 10:51 pm
Cobra, actually there are quite a few chracters that have been mentioned that don't play any actual role. I'm not going to list them now though... they are in plenty of other threads.
I agree, that Sinistra will be important for some other reason... maybe not important, but have a bigger role anyway, in future books. Just not having to do with DADA.
I also agree that Mrs. Weasley would make a good canidate after what McKinnon said, but it's still not enough to be as specific to say DADA teacher. Maybe get a job for Hogwarts, but not as specific as DADA.
And, well then McKinnon... :bite: :bite: :bite: :bite: :bite: , :D :D :D :D :D :D , and :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: . I win
Cobra245063
June 20th, 2003, 10:53 pm
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :wacky: :sigh: :rasp: :rasp: :rasp: :rasp: :rasp: :) :bite: :bite: :bite: :bite: :bite: :D :D :D :D :D :D:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
CALL!!!
McKinnon02
June 20th, 2003, 10:54 pm
But it's already been proven that nobody needs knowledge of the Dark Arts to teach the job. *coughLockheartcough*
Moony
June 20th, 2003, 10:55 pm
Whoa let's not get this shut down by going off-topic...
Is there anyone else that has been mentioned that we've overlooked as DADA teacher?
MadMagic
June 20th, 2003, 11:18 pm
What's with all the smileys?
I am completely miffed as who the new teacher could be. With Figg being shot down by JK, I don't know of another woman likely to get the job. I'm sure when I read it though, I will think to myself, "duh..."
R3mus Lup!n
June 24th, 2003, 9:41 am
The new teacher might be a new character.I dunno why u guys keep thinking that it has to be someone we know already.
heir 0f SalaZar
June 24th, 2003, 2:11 pm
i doubt its someone we already know.....i think jk will make this a nice suprise =)
poppakep
June 25th, 2003, 5:46 pm
i don't know if anyone has said this person yet, but what about Dumbledore? Just cause he's the headmaster doesn't mean he can't teach. Besides he already regrets not giving harry occulemency lessons.
jsut a thought
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