Ginny Weasley's Powers

[Lainlella]

Oooo, it's another book theory post! Anywho...

This theme has been explored in fanfiction, but it's one idea that I personally think is 'crazy enough to work,' so to speak.
Harry Potter was almost killed by Voldemort, we all know that. But Ginny was, also, in CoS. Though she never got the recognition that Harry did for surviving it, I can imagine that Voldemort even in a younger form would be just as powerful as he was when he attempted to murder Harry. I also believe that that the part were Voldemort so cheerfully explains that he gave a little of himself back to her is very significant. All facts pretty much point to Harry having a connection to Voldemort through his scar; and Ginny could've left the experience with a similar connection. Maybe that's why she'll play a bigger role, we find out about this little connection. And another fact that point to her strength would be that Voldemort [or 'Tom'] didn't have constant control, she almost told Harry and Ron about it at breakfast [that is, until Percy came along.] And Dumbledore also pointed out that Voldemort had taken over stronger wizards. Was this a subtle clue to the fact that maybe Ginny is a bit stronger than her brothers or family percieve?

[hermiones mum]

I think the bit that Tom Riddle left in her will be triggered later in the plot. She was also affected by the dementors, but didn't seem shaken.
I'm taking the poor ginny commet by JKR to be a Psycho reference

[lanifiel]

Its an interesting theory and I do agree that there is still something to come from the connection that was opened between Tom and Ginny. However, I think that we will find that it is more knowledge of him and his life/habits rather than extra powers or something in that fashion. Perhaps she will suddenly pipe up and say she knows where a minion of Voldemorts would hide if it ever got into Hogwarts or something in that fashion...

[Lainlella]

Its an interesting theory and I do agree that there is still something to come from the connection that was opened between Tom and Ginny. However, I think that we will find that it is more knowledge of him and his life/habits rather than extra powers or something in that fashion.

There is also a very good chance of that, I agree. Like instead of Harry's slightly more 'indistinct' connection with Voldemort [he just gets a pain in his scar, or has a dream when he's planning something, but never gets the full details], with Ginny, we'll get a closer one, like she'll know what he's doing, what he's planning, etc. etc.

But that's just me ^_^

[lanifiel]

Exactly, it wont be a definite thing, more a certain feeling of his actions or plans. Something that helps along her character in the interaction she has with others of the cast...

[hermiones mum]

I think the link is darker than that... JKR wouldn't double up on the already growing powers of Harrys scar. I think she will be more susceptible to Voldemorts influence. Could be one of the leads into a horrible death in 5!

[Lainlella]

Could be one of the leads into a horrible death in 5!
I'd seriously hate to think so....I've always imagined as more of a sweet, innocent type, who'd go to someone [like Dumbledore] at the first sign of danger [a la CoS]...but then again, you're right on the fact that J.K. wouldn't explore a theme already done in her books. And if that is going to happen, maybe she'll play a part in trying to prevent it? Or, maybe an even bigger role...helping the oh-so-mysterious Order of the Pheonix along a bit.

[lanifiel]

Theres too many things that could happen!! ARGH!

*boom!!*

*lanifiels brain explodes*

[Lainlella]

Theres too many things that could happen!! ARGH!

*boom!!*

*lanifiels brain explodes*
....J.K. Rowling needs to get the book out, before there are anymore fatalities in the discussion of theories. STOP THE HARRY POTTER FATALITIES!

[lanifiel]

hehe true :D

[GilyAnn]

That is one posibility. Has anybody noticed that Ginny was both times with Fred and George when they disappear at World Quidditch Cup. The first time it was when Harry, Ron and Hermione went to get water and the other one at the dark mark. The first time notice that George seems disoriented telling Ron "you been ages" He seemed not his usual self.

Ginny's character is really interesting some people suggest that her being the 7th which happend to be a mystical # on greek mithology and in Gypsy. Can give the posibility to her been a seer. Maybe this combine toguether will give her the oportunity to see what voldemort is doing?

I got the feeling the last thing were are going to be saying at the end is Poor Ginny! She's probably one of the plot twist and we don't even know it.

[Dessie]

Ginny's character is really interesting some people suggest that her being the 7th which happend to be a mystical # on greek mithology and in Gypsy. Can give the posibility to her been a seer. Maybe this combine toguether will give her the oportunity to see what voldemort is doing?

Very nice idea. Also, a common legend in Western cultures is that red-haired girls are supposed to be able to see the future.

The seventh son of a seventh son is also suggested to have second sight; I wonder how many siblings Mr and Mrs Weasley have?

JK's comment about Book 2 being key to the series has always led me to believe Ginny will become very important. I just really hope she doesn't die!

[Yadiami]

Originally posted by GilyAnn (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=183770#post183770))
Ginny's character is really interesting some people suggest that her being the 7th which happend to be a mystical # on greek mithology and in Gypsy. Can give the posibility to her been a seer. Maybe this combine toguether will give her the oportunity to see what voldemort is doing?


And in the DiscWorld series (by Terry Pratchet), the 8th son is a Wizard. Also, the 8th son of a wizard is a Sourcerer, but that's other thing. (In this series, the 8 is the magical number)

May JKR use this idea as well? Or, as it was already used by a very popular writer, she would change it??

[Dessie]

And in the DiscWorld series (by Terry Pratchet), the 8th son is a Wizard. Also, the 8th son of a wizard is a Sourcerer, but that's other thing. (In this series, the 8 is the magical number)

He based that on pre-existing mythology, with 8 substituted for 7, so I don't think JK will have any qualms about using it. One of the things I love about Terry Pratchett is that his books are crammed full of references to myths and legends, but you don't have to know the legend to get the joke.

Anyway, back on topic...

[Elangomatt]

I kind of like this theory. When Tom poured his soul out of the diary into Ginny in CoS to take Ginny over, we know Ginny got some of Tom's characteristics. We assume that before CoS Ginny was not a Parselmouth, but in order to control the Basilisk, Ginny got the Parselmouth ability from Tom in the Diary. The Tom that was in the CoS was destroyed along with the Diary, but I don't really see any reason to think that the parts of Tom Riddle that Ginny got from the Diary would be gone. For all we know, Ginny might still be able to talk to snakes. I think that if she does have some mental connection to Voldemort, maybe it will be Voldemort's thoughts and schemes that Ginny will be able to sense.

So far, it seems like Harry's connection with Voldemort is along the physical events. The two dreams in GoF, but I am not sure how to explain the bond Harry has in SS. Ginny's bond would be different than Harry's I would think, so maybe she will be able to sense Voldemort's internal thoughts, which may or may not be more useful than Harry's bond.

[GodricSlytherin]

Voldemort may get Ginny to bring sumone to him...in order to kill the person...or mentally tell Ginny to kill herself...it would be cool if she could have more of a distinction of where and what Voldy is going to do...it would make her greater to the plot and a threat to voldemort therefore concealing her fate(death).......these books are going to get darker....I can't wait!

[Spitf1re]

I dont think Ginny has some weird power that we don't know about, but I think Voldemort may try to use her in future books.

[lanifiel]

Hmmmm, I dunno if she really is a candidate to be used again. That would be going over the same plot twist as last time, its not a good thing todo. I think she may have something more to do with the whole Voldemort thing but not being used. Maybe she will stand up forherself and fight back against him in some way...

[Charmed]

This is an interesting theory, Lainlella. If it is so Ginny would play a very important part in the future books. Personally I do not believe that Ginny has the ability to talk to snakes. But I do believe she maybe able to tune into Voldemort's thoughts.

[DarlingChild]

Ooh good theory. I still have a wild theory that Ginny's 'big role' in book 5 will be her death...but you have a good theory nonetheless :)

[Padfoot127]

i think that maybe she knows more aobut the chamber than we think there is to it. she does seem like a stronger character than some of the people in harry's year when they were second years. there is something special about her, and i can't bear to guess and then guess wrong when the book comes out. i guess we all just have to wait....
:*(

[faubert]

In reading COS again I noticed something that could be very important. We all talk about Ginny having a connection with VOldermot becasue of the events of COS.

And I noticed something in Dumbledore's speechat the end of COS.

"Very few people know that Lord VOldermot was once called Tom Riddle. I taught him myself, Fifty years ago at Hogwart's. He Disappered after leaving the shcool... Taveled far and wide......

When he resurfaced as Lord Volfermot, he was Barely recognizible. Hardly anyone connected Lord VOldermot with the clever, handsome boy who was once head boy here."

This suggests that after Riddle left he changed. And lets examine harry and Ginny.

Harry: Connected to the adult VOldermot though the attack on him and his parents

Ginny: connected to Tom Riddle though his diary.

My theory is that the Riddle side fo VOldermot could be a weakness. After leaving Hogwarts he did everything to destroy his Riddle side.

And the one wizard he feared Dumbledore. Who was one of the few people who could make the connection between VOldermot and Riddle.

In POA Voldermot was part of the book. He was on the run to weak.

And in GOF he was still weak until the end when he came back.

And in POA and GOF Ginny has had a small role.

In Book 5 VOldermot will be back gaining power. And I will bet that he does so Ginny will begin to feel connected to the RIDDLE side of VOldermot. A side which VOldermot hates and has tried to forget.

I believe that in Book 5 Ginny will begin to have nightmares which she will ingore. She is basicly alone dealing with this.

I believe that Ginny's nightmares will turn out to be predictions of VOldermot's actions. Maybe she sees the deaths before they happen. But she is so scared that she tells nobody.

But Dumbledore realizes this and eventually helps Ginny realize that she has a major role

It also plays to what I think the order of the Phoenix is. I think that it is a group of Students who are selected because of there unique abalities.

After they are selected they remain together after they graduate. I believe that Sirus,Lupin, James, Lilly and others were members of the last group selected when they were in school.

And like the Phoenix they get older and eventually selects new students to replace them. The Phoenix eventually is reborn from the ashes. And the order is reborn from the elder to youunger.

In Book 5 we will find out that it is time to select the new members. I think that in addition to the Trio, Ginny, Nevillie and Susan Bones will be selected to join the order.

In Book 5 As VOldermot rises to power Ginny will also begin to awaken as her role grows

[Lainlella]

This is an interesting theory, Lainlella. If it is so Ginny would play a very important part in the future books. Personally I do not believe that Ginny has the ability to talk to snakes. But I do believe she maybe able to tune into Voldemort's thoughts.

Actually, I agree with you. If she ever had been able to talk to snakes, I think the ability would've 'worn off' after the whole Chamber incident, since it would've obviously come from Voldie, and when the diary died, her temporary gift died with it. I think this is so because J.K. wouldn't explore a plot that's already been explored to explicitly.

And I do hope she doesn't die, because besides Colin, she'd be the first person you'd think of. Fingers crossed, right?

[lanifiel]

Oh I dunno, the first person I think of when the death things comes up is Cho. But anyway, I think there is some lasting effect of the whole Riddle/Ginny thing. But it might boil down to just a change in her personality rather than powers :)

[Lainlella]

Cho? Curious...very curious...to be quite honest, no one I know likes cho that much :P Just thought I'd bring that up. Back on topic!

Hmm...personality shift...I can see it. Like perhaps Ginny going from her 'sweet, innocent' self to be a bit braver or colder? More sarcastic, perhaps? Or maybe a bit more willing to gain power, like Voldemort?

[Annapurna1]

Ginny's character is really interesting some people suggest that her being the 7th which happend to be a mystical # on greek mithology and in Gypsy. Can give the posibility to her been a seer. Maybe this combine toguether will give her the oportunity to see what voldemort is doing?

Theres also some paralells between Ginny's role in CoS and another ancient Greek myth: Persephone. The latter strongly suggests that Ginny is still under Voldy's spell or has some kind of link to him, which could easily lead to her undoing.

[Yadiami]

I don't quite agree with you saying she'll have nightmares or "premonitions" like Harry. I rather think she has gotten Riddle's mental squemes, so she will be able to guess what Voldemort may do; she may learn to think like him.

[Lainlella]

I rather think she has gotten Riddle's mental squemes, so she will be able to guess what Voldemort may do; she may learn to think like him.

I agree, like I said before, she may turn out to be sarcastic, or maybe even become ambitious, taking up where Tom [Voldie] left off, because that was his original plan during CoS.

[Turambar]

One thing that puzzles me in COS is how did Ginny know who were Muggle-borns to target them? Hermione and Colin are in Gryffindor but Justin and the Ravenclaw girl? How would she know about them? Anyone got an explanation? Could Voldemort sense it through Ginny. Could that mean then that when the troll was loose in PS that Voldemort (in Quirrell) sensed Hermione around and deliberately set the troll on Hermione? Which would then make it two attempts on her life.

[lanifiel]

I dont think its a great secret who is muggle born at Hogwarts, I mean there are tell tale signs with what they do and how they act at the school I imagine. But its a good point, perhaps Tom Riddle has some kind of ability to sense them like you suggested. As for the targeting Herimone twice, I think she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time when she good frozen...

[MadMagic]

This is an interesting theory, and to be quite honest I have never been a big fan of Ginny's, but thats not the point.
If there is a connection between Ginny and Riddle I think that it would be more of a mental connection, as Riddle was able to control her becasue she poured her thoughts into him. Therefore I don not think that Ginny can talk to snakes. However, I like the idea that maybe Ginny can somehow feel or sense his thoughts and maybe his plans. She probably won't realize that she has this connection until something bad happens though. But then that idea is an aweful lot like the whole dream connection Harry has with Voldemort, which I don't think should be used again.

[Ashkins]

The Riddle that took over Ginny in CoS is dead and no more. He was merely a memory but with the draining of another via trust could come to life. Harry killed that memory and all that was involved with it.

At the begining the Riddle in the book didn't know anything about Harry or what had taken place. He was very interested in meeting Harry. Because of this I don't think there is anything more to the memory.

The Voldemort of today has said nothing of what happen or that anything did happen in CoS.

As far as being the 7th child. Isn't it the 7th child of a 7th child?

[MadMagic]

The more I think about this, the more complicated it seems; but then thinking often over complicates things. So maybe Ginny has no connection to the Voldemort that we know. Maybe she has some sort of connection to Voldemort's former self (Tom Riddle). Perhaps she has some of the same ideas and thoughts that Riddle had 50 years prior. Her big part could be how she deals with this connection. With some of Riddle's thoughts forever a part of her, does she give into the same things that he gave into (she already partly has by opening the chamber) or will she prove to be strong enough to repress the Riddle-ish urges that she has. It will be interesting to see what role Ginny will play in book 5, after kind of disappearing following book 2.

[hermiones mum]

Originally posted by MadMagic (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=187887#post187887))
Perhaps she has some of the same ideas and thoughts that Riddle had 50 years prior. Her big part could be how she deals with this connection. With some of Riddle's thoughts forever a part of her, does she give into the same things that he gave into (she already partly has by opening the chamber) or will she prove to be strong enough to repress the Riddle-ish urges that she has.
Like it Madmagic, if book two is the key what character was all over the book and then disappeared in the following books.....GINNY, (..DOBBY had more of a role in GOF).
Would losing her only daughter affect Molly?

[lanifiel]

Heck yes, it would affect anyone! I can see Molly going nuts over maybe even blaming Ron for not looking out for her. But that boys and girls is for another thread :)

[Lainlella]

I would NOT want to be there if any one of the Weasleys die, mainly because they're my favorite family and NONE OF THEM ARE SUPPOSED TO DIE! ::Sob:: Okay, but besides my obsession with Weasleys...

Since the Weasleys are such an emotional family [Ron always yelling, Molly getting mad at the twins, the twins getting even madder at Molly, oh the cycle goes on], I think they'd take Ginny's death very hard, IF she dies [I personally believe it's going to be Hagrid who gets the short end of the stick, but this is just me]. Especially Molly. I mean, that's what any respectable mother would do, non? And so, of course she'd take it hard! Yeah...stopping...

[hermiones mum]

The only power that Ginny will have are those residual memories from Riddle.
With regard to the 7th child plot, the Weasleys may have lost a child before making Ron the 7th.

[Padfoot127]

I've found something from the book, A Treasury of Superstitions by Claudia DeLys, on the seventh son/daughter thing.
"The seventh son of a seventh son, or for that matter, the seventh daughter of a seventh daughter, is still believed by many to be a child with supernatural healing powers through its hand. Such a child, especially a seventh son, is supposedly destined to become great and prosperous. That the number seven is lucky, especially in connecion with the seventh boy to arrive in a family, is almost a universal belief. It dates back to remote times, and ancient Hebrews and Egyptians were known to believe in the efficacy of lucky "seven". Seven was an important number also to the Assyrians and Babylonians, who believed it portended both good and evil. The Seventh son of a seventh son, and a seventh daughter of a seventh daughter, are comparatively rare, but as far as we know, they have the same chances in life as their brothers and sisters."
Just thought you'd like to know! :D

[Lainlella]

The seventh daughter of the seventh son theory I won't put much stock in, mainly because of the proof everyone's provided that it won't pan out [I'll have to check out A Treasury of Superstitions ;D], but then again J.K. always twists mythology and legend to her will [like the friendlier version of the Giant Squid], so maybe she'll use some more believable variant of it?

[meghan_tatsu]

I like this theory, but I'm going to expand a litte bit, hope you don't mind :)
I think Ginny has a connection with Tom Riddle, Voldemorts human side. But, only because he spoke to her through the diary to gain her trust. She has learned how he acted, how he thought, what he was like when he was human.
After he graduated Hogwarts he went through all of those magical changes, and as Hagrid pointed out, wasn't really human anymore. So maybe is thought processes changed, but now that he is reborn, and as the glint in Dumbledore's eye may indicate, regained his human tendencies.
Harry has a connection to Voldemort, Ginny has a connection to Tom Riddle, but now Tom Riddle and Voldemort may be more connected than they ever were before. He's still evil and all, but maybe he thins more like he did when he was Tom. So I think that Hary will be able to sense Voldie's up to something, and Ginny knowing him a bit better may be able to sense what his human side will do, and the two combined will predict whats going on.
Anyway, just a thought.

[i wish i knew]

I don't really know what is happening with Ginny, but I think that there definately is somthing........here's the quote 'poor Ginny'

Will Harry ever notice the long-suffering Ginny Weasley?
You'll see... poor Ginny, eh?

[Yadiami]

Originally posted by meghan_tatsu (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=213996#post213996))
I think Ginny has a connection with Tom Riddle, Voldemorts human side. She has learned how he acted, how he thought, what he was like when he was human.
So I think that Hary will be able to sense Voldie's up to something, and Ginny knowing him a bit better may be able to sense what his human side will do, and the two combined will predict whats going on.


I agree with you, I think Ginny has, more than a "psiquical connection", a way to think like him, to know what would she do if she were on his place.
And the "Poor Ginny" quote is very interesting.

[go_anna40]

I believe some of Vodermort has rubbed off into Ginny. But I don't she'll develop them.
I guess she won't be as powerful as Harry if she did nuture them, I guess Harry was under a bigger death mark on his head.

[i wish i knew]

I don't think that some of Voldermort rubbed off, it could be that she has always been 'evil', maybe because there are so many Weasleys, she doesn't get attention?

[Lainlella]

I don't think that some of Voldermort rubbed off, it could be that she has always been 'evil', maybe because there are so many Weasleys, she doesn't get attention?
I've thought about this, but I personally believe that J.K.'s already exploring that sort of plot with Ron [he's good, though, I think]. But then again...it's hard not to feel cramped and unnoticed in a big family, and I have experience with that, especially if you're the smallest. So that is very possible.

[HPviolinist85]

I think that J.K. Rowling made her the only female Weasley for a reason because she is supposed to stand out. I think if any Weasley should go to the bad side it would be Percy. He did seem a little ambitious in the last book. If Percy goes to the dark side, then it will seem a little too much to see Ginny go too. Besides, she already was a victom of Voldemort before. I don't think J.K.R will use her again.

[Lainlella]

I'm also in the opinion that Percy will go to the Dark Side, since he does seem to want power and alot of it. But then again it was pointed out that he was alot like Crouch, so I don't think J.K. will use something that's already been pointed out; it'd be to obvious. A less obvious member of the Weasley clan, perhaps? *Shrug.* I don't really have even the foggiest of theories on that one.

Anyway, it's already been stated that she'll have a bigger role, and if the Order of the Pheonix is what everyone thinks it is, I wouldn't doubt it's some kind of a role in that.

As for the extra powers left over from the Voldemort/Tom incident, it's just a theory, that I'm even beginning to believe won't pan out [lol], though it does result in a good bit of fanfiction. But the sort of connection with Voldemort/Tom is something I will put a bit of belief in, mainly because I think it'd make sense, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

[Scotlandking85]

I want to know how Ginny's getting on in her tutorials.

[lanifiel]

Yeah, it would be nice to hear or See how Ginny does in school but the books are told through Harrys eyes and so I dont think we are going to see anything about that very much...

[dorcasderr]

Even if Ginny has some of Tom Riddle left in her, I think she will resist any evil there might be in that. She is her mother's daughter, and her mother is a strong woman. When you have one girl, the youngest child, in a family of boys, several things could happen. You could turn out a spoiled "little princess". THAT didn't happen. Or you could have a girl who learned to fend for herself and become stronger in the midst of all those boys. And, with a strong Mom like Molly, I think that is what happened. She is quiet, yes. She stands back and observes, so we don't always notice her. but that may be to her advantage. Voldemort may have no idea that Tom Riddle "left something of himself" in Ginny, even though he is, by now, probably aware of what happened in CoS from what Malfoy heard of it. If he is then unaware that Ginny has the connection to his former self, and perhaps therefor a link to his present self, he may be vulnerable. She may indeed be more sensitive to his comings, goings, and plans and if she is growing into the woman I think she is, she will overcome any personal distress it may cause her and use her abilites in the fight against Voldemort.

[Lainlella]

I very much agree with dorcasderr. So she's quiet. So what? All it gives us is a bigger chance to guess her character development. I personally think she'll be an artist of some sort, because the other groups of Weasleys seem to be a bit blind in that area; and it'd make her character stand out.

And, going off-topic, the 'poor Ginny' quote is kind of creepy, but interesting none the less.

[Silk E Smooth]

Originally posted by dorcasderr (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=215983#post215983))
When you have one girl, the youngest child, in a family of boys, several things could happen. You could turn out a spoiled "little princess". THAT didn't happen. Or you could have a girl who learned to fend for herself and become stronger in the midst of all those boys.

Speaking from personal experience, the youngest girl in a family full of boys will turn out the latter. She's been so over protected that it leads me to think she will do something very daring and surprise everyone because no one would think she was capable. Even most people on this board see her as just a weak little girl and refuse to see the possibility in her character. I'm sticking with my life debt theory. Harry saved her and I think she will be very important in saving Harry in the next book. Also, and this isn't a real power, but Ginny will be 14 and no doubt becoming a woman. Perhaps in OotP she will be quite the charmer with the boys. :crush:

[Barbara Kennedy]

Yes, I believe Ginny has quite a few surprises in store for us.
I never held with the theory that Ginny was a weak little sissy [not in that family]. I've observed "little sisters" in several large families of boys [my cousins] and they could whup each of them individually or outsmart the whole group together. Strangers meeting them for the first time thought they were "just the sweetest little things." Never underestimate the quiet ones.

[Hufflepuffy]

oi. this thread gives me a headache.

I think the most frustrating thing about Ginny is we really don't know much about her.

I just really hope she doesn't die. I think for her death to be significant, she'd have to do something spectacular in the book. i really think its going to be Hagrid.
(but that isn't what this thread is about, getting back on track...)

So far, I don't think Ginny has an extrordinary powers, but I really hope she develops some!

[bubblesofdeath88]

I think Ginny should learn to be an animagus. We really know nothing about her. She barely talked ten times throughout the whole series! But i hope there is more to her than there seems.

[FoolOnTheHill]

I have been one of those people who thought Ginny was pretty lame. And I still kinda do. But I am really looking forward to seeing her bigger role because she's really one of the most mysterious characters. We know practically nothing about her. It'll be cool if she turns out to have some powers we didn't know about. And it'll de-lame-ify her for me. If delameify is a word....:D

[Lainlella]

Well, if delameify wasn't a word before, it certainly is now :D

[FoolOnTheHill]

I should write my own dictionary. Starting with delameify. :D:D

Yeah, so. Ginny. Getting back on topic.....

[miri]

www.pseudodictionary.com

add your own words, access other peoples' variations on standard english... ;)

I quite like the idea of Harry and Ginny ending up working together, focussing and channelling Voldie's thoughts. It would give all those Divination lessons a point (other than seeing Hermione ridicule a teacher which was fun)! If Ginny can sense the logical side, and Harry the emotional, together, even if their separate links arent that strong, they should be able to amplify each other.

I'm not sure where this leaves the Trio though. Hermione would be fine with it, I think, but how would Ron feel, being overshadowed by his baby sister? I think he needs to play a stronger role too, because a lot of people here already seem to think of him as the weakest link.

Got it!

Harry definitely, and Ginny for argument, have no control over their Voldie-link. Even together, they wont be able to eavesdrop on his thoughts at all times - only when they're particularly strong. Ron also does Divination. If he finds some way to amplify their link, and push open the barrier into Voldie's mind at will, with Hermione setting up protection charms so Voldemort's clueless, and helping Ron explore his mind...

Maybe it would make more sense for an adult to take over Ron/ Hermione's part, but I think for something like that you need complete trust and understanding. The Trio (dont care what the love thread says :rasp: ) are tight. Harry and Ginny have a *special bond* as he saved her life. Ginny and Ron share the same blood - a strong connection - and the 4 youngest Weasley children seem to get on very well. Ginny, it seems, is Hermione's only female friend.

The only adult they trust as much as each other, and who could probably take over Ron/ Hermione's role is Dumbledore, and he's always let them work stuff out for themselves. He will recognise what an advantage a quad of young, determined, committed, powerful students will be - he IS getting old. Learning those levels of trust and team-work could be what saves the world. Keeping the 4 members alive will be important.

I like this theory! It got so much potential! :)

[created_to_worship]

Actually, pretty much all of the Weasley siblings get along great, except for Percy, but I digress...

I don't think JK would develop a weak character. Even poor Neville, who seemed so weak up to the 4th book, turned out to have an intriguing history that explained why he is so fearful.
Ginny is in Griffyndor, and since she's been such a quiet character until now, I think JK is going to do something competely unexpected with her character. I like all the above ideas, and I'm excited, like everyone else, to see what she does with it...

[smartypants]

Voldemort put a bit of himself into the Diary. That slef put a bit of himself into Ginny (maybe) so then a tiny bit of Voldemort might exist in Ginny, yes.

Quite plausable and a nice theory. If this is so, and what efefcts it will have in that case will be interesting to see. I wouldn't be surprised if we get to see more of Ginny in future books. :)

That she was affected is, as mentioned before here, shown by her being very shaken by the Dementors.

[Barbara Kennedy]

I don't see the direct connection between her contact with Voldemort and her reaction to the dementors.
She would have been affected by them whether she met Tom Riddle/Voldemort or not. Everyone was affcted in some degree, some more than others because of the degree of bad experiences in their past.
Granted, her experience would have made her reaction more intense than some.
[Does she hear Tom Riddle whispering to her when she is near the Dementors in the same way Harry hears his Mum?]

[miri]

Maybe she hears Riddle laughing about her patheticness in the CoS?

[meghan_tatsu]

Or she remembers what it was like to butcher those chickens, and almost watching Harry die, from the Basilisk's poison. That's gotta be pretty traumatic, as well as the knowledge that someone was able to controll her actions without her knowledge (for a while). Maybe because of this, she will become more resolute to become a stronger witch, study extra hard or something.

[miri]

It would be interesting to know if she can fight off the Imperious curse

[Barbara Kennedy]

Was the Imperius Curse what Riddle used to control Ginny in the CoS?

[hermiones mum]

I don't think Ginny has any special powers, but the information that Riddle fed her in book 2 will be important to the storyline in the future.

[Yadiami]

Originally posted by Barbara Kennedy (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=229810#post229810))
Was the Imperius Curse what Riddle used to control Ginny in the CoS?


No, I don't think so. It was a memory, so I doubt it could say the Curse.
Although Ginny didn't remember doing things, but I think it was because of the power Riddle had over her, not a special curse or charm.

[MaKaylah]

Ginny is queing up to be a powerful witch! Just looked at how she handled herself in the DOM in book five. As to her connection to Voldy...I don't think there is one, however, I think that JKR had Ginny go through that experience in COS so Harry could have someone to talk to about what he felt when he was possesed by Voldy.

[fruitia pickleweed]

As much as her magical powers, you have to admire her resilience and "starch." She came back from possession by Lord Voldemort to become a very self-possessed young woman. She joins on to the Gryffindor Quidditch team as seeker when the team is at a very low ebb and the chances of winning any games are small. When Harry gives her, "Never you mind," she comes right back and asserts her entitlement to be involved. She dates Michael Corner, but gives him the push when she does not like his behavior. All these are signs of a healthy and stong character, which shoud make her a huge asset to the group. (We also get that assertiveness and determination go way back with Ginny, since we find she taught herself to fly from the age of six by breaking into the family broomshed. Her "wimpy' character appearance in the first two books seems to be an illusion created by, first, a schoolgirl crush on Harry, and second, the possession. Now we're getting the real Ginny.)

Take that together with her magical talent. Ginny should definitely be a prefect next year.

[sone]

Just looked at how she handled herself in the DOM in book five.

I'm not saying that Ginny is not a strong character, but what exactly did she do in the DoM? She didn't do anything except get her ankle broken and take a stunner to the face.

[GryffindorGr]

She is definitely a force to reckon with. I personally like her character though. Her attitude in DoM and in CoS revealed a lot about her. Her propensity to laugh and talk incessantly about someone she liked comfortably with her family members. To totally shutting up in front of the person in question, then later to be confronted by the most powerful wizard (besides DD of course) and bearing it all, even in front of her brother. Not wanting help when most girls would break down loudly. And in DoM when she didnt want any assistance when she obviously does need it. Small indications of what Ron and the twins tell us about her character to Harry. Just those slight things about her character shows she's got more than spunk and power than being the 7th magical child.

by fruitia pickleweed
Take that together with her magical talent. Ginny should definitely be a prefect next year.
I'd say so. She's responsible too.

[MagicianGirl]

I think that she's a powerful witch. Although we didn't see what she was capable of in DoM since she broke her ankle not by a DE but by Luna and she took a stunner in the face (but somehow woke up without being Enervate) and didn't end up knockout on her first showing out the battle field.But we know that she was the one who got Malfoy when they struggle and also, she survived a possession & lived. I think that because she's small she's been underestimated a lot.

[pegoheart144]

I am intrigued by the theory earlier in the thread by faubert that Ginny has a connection to Tom Riddle still left within Voldemort. After he left Hogwarts was when he made his most dramatic changes to himself. If Tom Riddle were to somehow reassert himself, Voldemort could be destroyed.

[Weatherby]

I think her personality will be the source of her powers.
If you have a strong will you can get a lot accomplished even without the extra gifts.

She may have been tricked as a little girl but I think she's learned her lesson. It'll be very hard to trick her again.
I disagree that she won't be able to fight off the imperius curse. She hated feeling guilty and doing things she wouldn't remember later, etc.

[tk_ravenprime]

hello fellow fans.....
I am a newbie in this forum, but a huge fan of the storyline.
I have been reading these post and some of them seem to have been posted PRE-PHOENIX. Ginny's part has been obliquely down played but not some of her achievements. When in Phoenix she tries out for a team spot, we find out she has been practicing on her own when the twins are not around. Also I would say that Ginny is A LOT more powerfuld than what we as fans have have seen. In the first few chapters after the advance guard (phoenix) take Harry to HQ, Fred/George tells harry that size IS NOT an indication of power "have you been on the receiving end of her bat bogey hex?" Considering the twins opinion of most people not in their little circle, and even some of the people in his circle, it gave me the impression of respect, if not awe, in his voice. My personal mental picture was Ginny arms raised, mad, really p*o look and wind blowing in her hair as she cast her hex (or maybe it was a shampoo commercial....hahaha.....yea its lame). Figure her to have picked up a lot of what the twins can do, she probaly can do also. She would seem to be the perfect lookout for the twins and quietly learning her craft also.
Ginny is probably being set up as the unobserved ace, or wild card for book 7. In 5 she made the right connections for Harry and team. She did introduce Luna in a good way to the others. Slightly off topic, but do remember that CoS, and PoA we did not see the sorting, so expect her to have her own little crowd.
For now thats all....lets compare

[GryffindorGr]

Ginny's part has been obliquely down played but not some of her achievements. When in Phoenix she tries out for a team spot, we find out she has been practicing on her own when the twins are not around. Also I would say that Ginny is A LOT more powerfuld than what we as fans have have seen. In the first few chapters after the advance guard (phoenix) take Harry to HQ, Fred/George tells harry that size IS NOT an indication of power "have you been on the receiving end of her bat bogey hex?" Considering the twins opinion of most people not in their little circle, and even some of the people in his circle, it gave me the impression of respect, if not awe, in his voice. My personal mental picture was Ginny arms raised, mad, really p*o look and wind blowing in her hair as she cast her hex (or maybe it was a shampoo commercial....hahaha.....yea its lame). Figure her to have picked up a lot of what the twins can do, she probaly can do also. She would seem to be the perfect lookout for the twins and quietly learning her craft also.
Ginny is probably being set up as the unobserved ace, or wild card for book 7. In 5 she made the right connections for Harry and team. She did introduce Luna in a good way to the others. Slightly off topic, but do remember that CoS, and PoA we did not see the sorting, so expect her to have her own little crowd.
For now thats all....lets compare
Hey tk_ravenprime and welcome to the forums :welcome:
You make some good points. A lot of people seem to underestimate her because she is described as "little", most especially from Harry himself and thus her being the 7th child, but the only girl, I think she gets a lot of praise and lavishness(love). Since she is most likely the most loved out of the children--not that all aren't equally loved, but going in the theme of "love" of the series, she'll give back as much if not more of what she's recieved. It's true that the twins dont hold high regard for many people and since CoS, she had been taken advantage of. I think there's a scale tip on the other end when we will see her advance to the same, if not equal to Harry's power, thus helping out magically as well as mentally.

by pegoheart144
I am intrigued by the theory earlier in the thread by faubert that Ginny has a connection to Tom Riddle still left within Voldemort. After he left Hogwarts was when he made his most dramatic changes to himself. If Tom Riddle were to somehow reassert himself, Voldemort could be destroyed.
This I think is part of her secret. If Hermione has secrets, I believe Ginny has some too and it seems to concern herself , Riddle and with Harry.