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Sirius Black
February 18th, 2003, 11:02 am
Just wanted to make a thread to cover up and combine all the missed facts. Like where the motorbike that Sirius gave Hagrid went. Or how Hagrid flew to the hut. Or why the course was made so easy, that a bunch of First Years could pass. Just wanted to discuss on these. And people are welcome to point out more missed facts, and we can discuss them. If there's a thread like this, someone close this down.

Dedalus
February 18th, 2003, 11:21 am
Well I can answer one of them ...

the course (I presume you mean to the Philosopher's Stone?) was meant to be do-able, because they would have needed to reach the stone and get it. But it wasn't exactly that "a bunch of First Years could pass" ... Harry, Ron and Hermione could. They'd done the research for a whole year, they had the specific abilities and were just a good combination to pass it. Others wouldn't have been so lucky.

nfh_aftran
February 18th, 2003, 1:09 pm
Yep....but I don't think the course was that easy. Remember, the troll had already been defeated. Hermione was definetely a smarter than average first year, and Harry was much braver and a really really good seeker. Oh yeah....and has anyone noticed that voldie wouldn't have been able to have a chance at getting the SS if Harry, Ron, and Hermione hadn't attempted to take it before he did? Voldie tried to use Harry to ge the SS, because Quirrell's deepest desire was to give the stone to his master.

Picko
February 18th, 2003, 1:36 pm
Well the fact is the course was made to protect the stone from evil doers and in that regard it was completelyly impenitrable. Dumbledore's protection (Mirror of Erised) was perfect and really there was absolutely no need for any other form of protection. The course could be completed by any good person but if you were evil you would always fall at the final stage.

sugarquill
February 18th, 2003, 1:52 pm
The most important hurdle was Fluffy and the kids only knew about the music thing from Hagrid, which he only told them beacuse he was their friend. Quriell knew beacuse he was a teacher.

1MelissaPotter
February 18th, 2003, 2:43 pm
Hagrid said that only he and Dumbledore knew how to calm Fluffy. I think that the teachers, if they need to get to the SS, could have put some spell on Fluffy to get past.

nimbus2006
February 18th, 2003, 2:44 pm
Quirrel knew because he was the man with the dragon egg at the pub who got Hagrid drunk, and tricked him into telling him.
Sorry.. just had to make that clear :)

banyopp
February 18th, 2003, 2:50 pm
I always wondered why Dumbledore just didn't keep the stone in his pocket. I mean that would seem like the safest place to me, ya know? Voldemort is scared crazy of him, and they wouldn't have to bother with all the crazy obstacle course stuff. Dumbledore could even make an announcement..like "hey f00ls I got the stizzone so if you want it you better bring it!'

But of course, I like Jk's way much better, the other way would be like a 43 page book. :p

Moonlight
February 18th, 2003, 2:55 pm
I don't that JK forgot to put them in the book, just that we don't really need to know them.

Ron Hermione and Harry all have there own talents and worked as a team to get the stone, I think it would be very unlikely that someone would have all those talents.
Voldermort might have, but he is far too weak to do anyting other than talk and instruct.

1MelissaPotter
February 18th, 2003, 3:03 pm
Originally posted by nimbus2006 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=176664#post176664))
Quirrel knew because he was the man with the dragon egg at the pub who got Hagrid drunk, and tricked him into telling him.
Sorry.. just had to make that clear :)

O yea, I forgot about that! Sorry.

spuachi
February 18th, 2003, 4:22 pm
What I wonder is why DD is letting the kids do a lot of dangerous things. For example, if you want the stone to be well protected, you wouldn't tell the students to stay away from the third floor's corridor. It's like saying "hey, there's something cool there, go and have a look". The same with the mirror of erised: if you want to protect the stone, don't say anybody how to take it from the mirror... not even Harry!

Dedalus
February 18th, 2003, 4:33 pm
Was it Ron who suggested that perhaps Dumbledore did want Harry to go after Quirrel? I agree with him - giving him the cloak along with the note "use it well" and letting him see the mirror (he'd been watching Harry on more than the last occasion) and being impressed that he "did do it properly". These aren't just random acts. I guess he wanted Harry to see for himself, especially since he knew that he'd have a good try any way.

Talonos Moonson
February 18th, 2003, 4:41 pm
Okay, moving off that for a second, another point brought up was how did Hagrid fly to the hut on the rock. I believe Hagrid said "Now that I've got yeh, I'm not s'possed to do magic, strictly speaking, but you wouldn't tell if I, er, speed things up a bit, would yeh?" Or something to that effect. I can't quote it, because I loaned my copy to someone else, but if someone else could confirm it, I'd be grateful. Anyway, that explains how Hagrid got to the hut in the first place.

banyopp
February 18th, 2003, 4:48 pm
It is not IF he used magic, it was magic did he use to get there that is the question I think. Also later in PS/SS it says that Dumbledore "flew" to the Ministry of Magic. Perhaps there is some connection with this vague reference of "flew". But more probable it is nothing.

Alastor D
February 18th, 2003, 5:24 pm
Good idea Sirius!
One might think that the unexplained is just that and why bother. But everyone of us reads and understands the books in hers/his own way. So what seems unexplained to me might seem clear enough to others.

Some more questions:
How did the Durleys get ashore from the hut on the rock when Hagrid and Harry had taken the boat?

How could Voldemort have his old wand after living 13 years as a mere spirit? He said himself he could not USE a wand. Some guess Wormtail collected it for him at Godrics hollow. But Wormtail had no wand in the Shrieking Shack.

And how come Harry still had his wand after his escape from Voldie when it was clearly said that the TWO things he was still clutching were the cup and Cedric's body? There was no time for him to pocket it. And we know he still had it because he used it on the train.

spuachi
February 18th, 2003, 5:34 pm
[i]Originally posted by Alastor D
And how come Harry still had his wand after his escape from Voldie when it was clearly said that the TWO things he was still clutching were the cup and Cedric's body? There was no time for him to pocket it. And we know he still had it because he used it on the train.


I don't think he left his wand at any moment, he must have hold it at the same time he was holding the cup and with the same hand. Otherwise he could have not spell accio.

i wish i knew
February 18th, 2003, 10:40 pm
Couldn't you summon the Sorcerers Stone???

kit
February 19th, 2003, 12:20 am
Originally posted by banyopp (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=176810#post176810))
It is not IF he used magic, it was magic did he use to get there that is the question I think. Also later in PS/SS it says that Dumbledore "flew" to the Ministry of Magic. Perhaps there is some connection with this vague reference of "flew". But more probable it is nothing.


I think Dumbledore just took a broomstick. He is a wizard afterall.

Camo
February 19th, 2003, 12:57 am
Hagrid probably used a broomstick as well. His coat was full of stuff.

Beatrice Bottbean
February 19th, 2003, 1:11 am
Thoughts on a couple of these things...

First, I always kind of had the impression that Dumbledore set up the enchantments with the kids in mind. Harry says at the end of the book that he thought Dumbledore wanted to give him a chance. While the other teachers picked the enchantments used, the fact that Hagrid said that only he and Dumbledore knew how to get past Fluffy, along with the fact that Dd is Dd, I think Dd had a good deal of input as to what enchantments the others use. But I do tend to infer more than is there...

As far as how Hagrid flew, I have never been able to come up with a feasible option. I always assumed that when Dd was flying he used a broom, but Hagrid didn't have one so that always left me with a ludicrous vision of a large giant riding a pink umbrella. I have seen others suggest that Hagrid answered this way b/c it would be too complicated to explain to Harry about apparating and this makes some sense to me though Hagrid explained a lot of other things to Harry, so I don't know what I think yet.

Though I don't have an answer, I really hope that we see the motorbike again. I get the impression that the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts office has only recently passed the law restricting the enchantment of muggle items so that the bike would have to be either confiscated or disenchanted - though maybe confiscation would cause it to end up in Mr. Weasley's hands which could be fun. I would love one of those flying motorbikes for my commute to work...

Sirius Black
February 19th, 2003, 9:51 am
Cool opinions, maybe we could save these questions in here to ask JKr if she ever gets an interview.:D But it's not only the first book here, every book is welcome.

I was wondering in book 2, if Harry could hear the voice of the Basilisk so clearly and loudly, why didn't Ron and Hermione hear hissing?

I'd also like to add, in book 4, when Voldemort asked Peter to get rid of Cedric and Peter killed him. Then why did Cedric come out of Voldemort's wand during Prior Incantem.

Alastor D
February 19th, 2003, 12:20 pm
Perhaps they heard hissing in the walls but never paid attention because a place like Hogwarts may be so full of odd sounds that nobody cares.

Dumbledore didn't say he flew. "We must have crossed in mid-air" And they didn't cross because Dd was back at before H and R got a chance to send an owl. It seems natural to presume he apparated just outside the gate and run into the castle.

Alastor D
February 19th, 2003, 12:28 pm
Sorry I forgot the second question.
Peter must have used Voldie's wand.

spuachi
February 19th, 2003, 2:53 pm
Originally posted by Sirius Black

I was wondering in book 2, if Harry could hear the voice of the Basilisk so clearly and loudly, why didn't Ron and Hermione hear hissing?



I think they didn't hear it because Harry was always saying "don't you hear that voice?" They must have tried to hear a voice, but not a strange sound. Maybe they even heard it but paid no attention, as Harry was talking about a voice.

Alastor D
February 19th, 2003, 3:44 pm
Originally posted by Beatrice Bottbean (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=177436#post177436))
Thoughts on a couple of these things...

As far as how Hagrid flew, I have never been able to come up with a feasible option. I always assumed that when Dd was flying he used a broom, but Hagrid didn't have one so that always left me with a ludicrous vision of a large giant riding a pink umbrella. I have seen others suggest that Hagrid answered this way b/c it would be too complicated to explain to Harry about apparating and this makes some sense to me though Hagrid explained a lot of other things to Harry, so I don't know what I think yet.


That's a good one! Hagrid riding a pink umbrella. I'd love to see that in one of the coming films!
Most regretfully I must admit I can't believe it.

I don't think Hagrid would be allowed to learn how to apparate or take the test. Because he was expelled from school and never became an educated wizard.

But Dd might have made a portkey for him. Perhaps a two way one so he could get fast and safely back with the stone.

EvilMeghan
February 19th, 2003, 6:09 pm
Originally posted by harrypottergirl333 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=177234#post177234))
Couldn't you summon the Sorcerers Stone???


No, because it was inside the Mirror of Erised, so to speak. I believe that to summon something, it must be tangible, which the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone was not.

Spitf1re
February 19th, 2003, 8:20 pm
Getting past Fluffy was helped by Hagrid, Devil's Snare by an extra smart Hermione, the keys with Harry's seeking skills, The chess board with Ron's cherss skills, The potion with Hermione's cleverness. Not one of them would have been able to do it by themsleves.

Sirius Black
February 20th, 2003, 7:01 am
Why did they put a devil's snare there in the first place, they could've placed it a little way off. So the person would fall and die or get hurt. Then get tangled in the Devil's Snare. And the flying keys, if Harry and Hermione had known the Reductor Curse, they could've blasted the door away. Why did they put the keys there in the first place. The chess board, it would've been better if they just attacked them instead of playing. And they could've flown over. The potions one, just don't put any potions there, leave them in the fire forever. Or make everything poison.

And also, why doesn't JKr ever mention Hermione's and Ron's birthdays?

banyopp
February 20th, 2003, 7:19 am
I don't even think Pettigrew or Voldemort could ever have gotten the stone. Dumbledore said only someone who wanted to find the stone, find it and not use it would get it. It is not like they could pretend they did not want to use it. They would have sat there forever looking in the mirror, and nothing would have ever happened. Just my thoughts.

Alastor D
February 20th, 2003, 8:22 am
Right banyopp. There are ways to block spells. Alohamora had no effect on the door with the flying keys. And Snape tried some spells without success on the Marauder's Map. And Dd had made sure there was only one possible way to get the stone.

Sirius Black
February 20th, 2003, 8:46 am
But knowing Voldemort, he can do anything. Probably use his dark arts to get the stone. I think at the door on which alohomora didn't work, why did they even put flying keys?? Just leave it there without nothing.

And why doesn't JKr ever mention Hermione's and Ron's birthdays?

PS:You can also post missed out stuff here if you want, not only answer.

Harry-EX
February 20th, 2003, 8:58 am
MAybe they are not important at all. She wrote about Harry's birthday in order to show the differnce between the relationship between Harry and the Dursleys and Harry and his friends.

Sirius Black
February 20th, 2003, 9:05 am
Good point, but still, she should mention their birthdays. They're his friends, they give him presents, I want to know what he gives them back. And a birthday is a birthday, and plus, they have their birthdays in September and I forgot. But both in school time. She could at least mention them.

Wagga Werewolf
February 20th, 2003, 11:05 am
JKR has said in an interview (and I can't find the link at the moment) that Hermione's birthday is Sept 19 and Ron's is March 1.
She also said that of course Harry gives them presents, but there's always been so much else going on in the books that she hasn't had time to dwell on their birthdays.

EvilMeghan
February 20th, 2003, 4:00 pm
Yea, I think the doors and everything were enchanted so that there was only one way (or not many ways) to get past each obstacle. But it had to be do-able (maybe for Dumbledore?) so that if he needed to get it out, he could.

Alastor D
February 20th, 2003, 7:29 pm
Harry's birthday has a role in the story. One of many ways to show how the Dursleys treat him compared to their own son. Hermione's and Ron's birthdays have no role. Yet.

A link to the interwiew: Go to Mugglenet's homepage and look for JKRowling. There are some 12 interwiews and online chats. I think the birthdays were there in one of these.

Voldemort being able to do anything. I don't think so. He has twice failed to kill Harry. He was not able to tell how to get past Fluffy and he couldn't help Quirrell get the stone out of the mirror. He was however able to notice that Harry got the stone. But that's another thing.

Beatrice Bottbean
February 20th, 2003, 8:39 pm
Both the birthdays are mentioned here:

http://de.share.geocities.com/antje_lang/c118.htm

Master Dragonfly
February 21st, 2003, 12:13 am
Where was the stone before it was in the mirror of Erised? Because there is a period in which Harry is looking into the mirror at his parents. Could Harry have gotten the stone right then? And wouldn't it have been smarter of Dumbledore to just leave the mirror in the room without putting it in the 3rd floor corridor? And what is under the trapdoor in the other books? Harry has passed through the 3rd floor corridor in other books. What were those rooms down there called anyway?

And as for Hagrid's flight: maybe he took a leaf out of Marry Poppins's book (I don't know how that's possible though, there aren't usually leaves in books).

banyopp
February 21st, 2003, 8:02 am
The problem with analyzing how they hid the stone, is that if it were actually real and not a story, Dumbledore would have kept it on his person at all times, that is the safest place. But, this is a story so it is much more interesting if they make a cool trial course to get to the stone so Harry and his crew can run it.

spuachi
February 21st, 2003, 3:14 pm
I don't think keeping the stone in DD's pocket would be the safest place, we all know that DD is a little bit forgetful with "trivial" things. Imagine, he wakes up in the morning and dresses with clean blue robes, forgetting the stone in the dirty ones...

And leaving only the mirror would be too risky. What is better, 1 protection or 7? The more the better!!

EvilMeghan
February 21st, 2003, 5:04 pm
I always wondered what they did with all those extra rooms - why don't Harry and his friends hide out in them sometimes?? There are the rooms through the trapdoor, as Master Dragonfly said; there's the Chamber of Secrets; there's the Shrieking Shack. After their appearance in one of the books, they never get returned to. Maybe they are blocked *magically*, but we wouldn't know because the amzing trio never goes back to them!! That always bothered me... :angry:

spuachi
February 21st, 2003, 5:44 pm
That's a good question!! Maybe it's because most of the people know those places already.
The chamber of secrets is not a good place to hide; the only one able to enter there is Harry. Ron and Hermione can't go there alone. And how could they come back to the toilet? The last time they had the help of Fawkes, but not now.
The shrieking shack is a great place, though.

FoolOnTheHill
February 21st, 2003, 10:56 pm
In PoA Hermione mentions that she got money for her birthday in September from her parents. That's something.

As for the rooms they never returned to, they didn't really have a reason to go back (yet) to them.

Someone mentioned the question of how Voldie got his wand back after all those years... This one puzzles me too. One of his death eaters could have gone to retrieve it. You'd think Wormtail but like one of you said, he had no wand in the Shreiking Shack... Crouch Jr. maybe?? Hmm.... Maybe the Ministry of Magic confiscated it and it was stolen or smuggled out by someone-- not incredibly likely but an idea. There's always "Accio Old Voldies wand!"--but that ones not too good either...

Mucker
February 21st, 2003, 11:39 pm
About Hagrid's/Sirus's bike. I always thought that DD would keep an eye on it for Hagrid, just to make sure he dosn't go out for a midnight ride.

I want to know how do you defrost a broomstick? It mensions it in PS/SS.

EvilMeghan
February 22nd, 2003, 2:10 am
In the movie, they portray the broomsticks having like jet engines or something - ugh! I though they were just normal broomsticks...maybe they warm them up...I would assume they could get frost on them.

1MelissaPotter
February 22nd, 2003, 2:53 am
Where do you see jet engines Meghan?

EvilMeghan
February 22nd, 2003, 3:02 am
Those silvery things coming off the sides...I don't like how the movie portrayed the broomsticks at all. :(

1MelissaPotter
February 22nd, 2003, 3:16 am
Meghan- That is where they put there feet (I'm pretty sure).

EvilMeghan
February 22nd, 2003, 3:22 am
I don't care - the brooms are still stupid looking (just my opinion) :(

How Voldy got his wand back: I'm sure a bunch of DE's rushed to the site and one of them possibly picked it up...maybe they were pretending to help go through the rubble. But I don't know how it got back to Voldy...maybe they put it in his Gringott's vault? Does he have one? There must be a vault in the name of the Morvalo's...

Master Dragonfly
February 22nd, 2003, 6:35 am
They couldn't just be normal brooms. Nimbus created its own series of brooms. Those broomsticks they use are manufactured to be better for flying than regular brooms. What I'm saying is, Nimbus created Nimbus 2000, they didn't modify a muggle broom and call it Nimbus; that'd be misuse of muggle artifacts. Wizards make their own brooms.

Alastor D
February 22nd, 2003, 8:03 am
Abt broom manufacturing see Quidditch through the ages, ch. 9. Those odd silvery things were not shown on any broom in the first film. The second I have seen only once so I can't tell.

There may be a magical defrosting stuff used the same way as muggles defrost aeroplanes.

None of DEs ever found Voldie before Wormtail. And he had the wand already when he killed Frank Bryce in the Riddle house. Did W vaste time to fetch the wand somewhere when he fled from the SH to Albania?

banyopp
February 22nd, 2003, 8:27 am
I love the brooms, nimbus 2000 much more than 2001, I cant wait to see the Firebolt. :)

sugarquill
February 22nd, 2003, 9:03 am
Yeah me too I loved them in the books and the movie, I wonder what the tushy comfort factor is tho :D

Mucker
February 22nd, 2003, 9:31 pm
I've only just noticed them silver things on the N-2001.
I asked a friend how he thought you defrost a broomstick, he said that Hagrid would just pour boiling water on them from a kettle. But I think he was only joking.

About how Voldie got his wand back: Maybe Cornilius Fudge gave it to a DE out of fear. Maybe he give it to Malfoy, he's a guilable fool who trusts (and likes) Lucious.

GodricSlytherin
February 23rd, 2003, 12:38 am
Well- Voldemort was said to have many powers, so he might have put a spell on his wand to be trasnported sum place in the occassion that he might lose his wand, because, even voldy can forget his wand.

And the brooms are better portrayed than I thought they would be. I thought they would look all raggedy like the one is SS for the Keys.

The group has had no reason to go back to any of the places they have formaly been in. The room JK has mentioned could be a possible place that they may go into to get away since the room is always somewhere else in the castle everyday.

let me see....other questions.....let's think....

We have been in the prefects bathroom and a girls bathroom...when will we see the guys toilets....anything important in those????LOL.......it has no significance,but my friend mentioned it the other day.,...it was a good laugh

ReNnIe06
February 23rd, 2003, 2:16 am
You know what has never been explained?? In the third book, Harry tells Professor Dumbledore about Professor Trelawney's prediction and Professor Dumbledore said that BROUGHT HER TOTAL NUMBER OF REAL PREDICTIONS UP TO 2!! So whats the other real prediction?? Thats what I want to know...

Mirabella Plunkett
February 23rd, 2003, 2:32 am
Originally posted by banyopp (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=176670#post176670))
I always wondered why Dumbledore just didn't keep the stone in his pocket. I mean that would seem like the safest place to me, ya know? Voldemort is scared crazy of him, and they wouldn't have to bother with all the crazy obstacle course stuff. Dumbledore could even make an announcement..like "hey f00ls I got the stizzone so if you want it you better bring it!'

It's not Rock, Paper, Scissors, where Dumbledore always beats Voldemort. Just because Voldemort didn't attack Dumbledore & Hogwarts doesn't mean he's completely terrified of Dumbledore. I always thought the "fear" Voldemort felt was more of an acknowledgement of the fact that Dumbledore was the only one who could stop him. If I was bent of wizarding world domination, that would freak me out a little, too.

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 23rd, 2003, 3:53 am
ReNnIe06, JK has said in one of her interviews that Professor Trelawney's first prediction is important and is going to be revealed by the end of the series. It's most probably something important in regard to the plot.

With regard to Voldemort's wand, I feel that Wormtail was there on Halloween and picked up the wand to hide it after the events occured. He then recovered it at the end of PoA as he set off to find Voldemort.

Sirius Black
February 23rd, 2003, 9:35 am
Maybe when Voldemort was done with Harry on the night, he fled. But one of the DEs, say Crouch Jr came to the house and picked it up and left. I'm not sure, that;s why these are inexplained.

Why didn't they use the Veritaserum at the Pensieve Trials to make the people arrested speak the truth, like Lucius for example.

And also, if Filch is a squib, how come he can open the secret passages, because most of them require(I think) a wand and a word like Dissendium or something, or a tap of the wand, but Filch doesn't have a wand.

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 23rd, 2003, 9:43 am
I bet you there were people working in the Department of Law enforcement who were Death Eaters and managed to keep Veritaserum out of the proceedings. Perhaps there are moral objections with using it. Perhaps there are really major side-affects to Veritaserum. Perhaps it's only been invented in the last 13 years. Perhaps it's really hard and expensive to produce. Perhaps there is an obsure law against allowing people to have that little control over their speech during a trial. Whatever it is, I feel we may find out in later books, hopefully at Sirius' trial!

Sirius Black
February 23rd, 2003, 9:50 am
There are lots of reasons to that. That's why this thread is called unexplained facts, and I think JKr will use one of those to cover it up.

What about the Filch question?

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 23rd, 2003, 10:54 am
Filch? I think he's a Squib in the sense of someone with very, very minimal talent. He has enough though, for that peculiar connection of his to Mrs Norris. I would vote for him in the 'magic late in life' stakes. I also think he has a backstory which is very interesting.
How did he come to be caretaker, if he has so little magical talent that he tries to learn from Kwikspell?
Was the previous caretaker also a squib, or was he a witch/wizard?
Is Kwikspell the magical version of fad diets (ie. it will never really help in the long run for most people?)?
Do squibs get Hogwarts letters?
How do squibs find employment?
Are there going to be any other squibs turn up in the series? What is the exact difference between being a squib and a witch/wizard?
Are there many cases on the cusp of this problem?
Is Stan Shaunpike and his companions numbered in this group? Is Neville really an almost-squib, or is his past psychologically affecting him?

There are a lot of questions in there.

Oops, went back and looked at you question. Perhaps Dumbledore has set up a system where Filch can access many parts of the school without needing the passwords? Perhaps, being a Squib, he just need to touch things in the right place and say the password. Perhaps there is an override control for the caretaker. Perhaps there is even a list in Filch's office of the passwords to all parts of the school (except staff offices, bedrooms, common rooms and such) where Filch knows there are passwords. Perhaps the castle/founders liked haveing a few passages the caretaker doesn't know of? Perhaps he has a sense for these things after being caretaker for so long.

Alastor D
February 23rd, 2003, 3:21 pm
I think it was said that a squib is someone born to a wizard family but without any magic povers just as witches and wizards can have pure muggle parents. Perhaps Filch uses secret passages which are not magically concealed. Enough to know where they are. And it seems Filch doesn't know those described in the Marauders Map.

If Filch was brought up in the wizarding world knowing nothing abt how to live among muggles, it would have been cruel to send him off to do that. Dd certainly knew his parents, pitied him and gave him that job. I fear to think about how he might have treated students if he had magical powers.

Why should Stan Shunpike and Ernie Prang be squibs? How could anyone handle that bus without magical powers?

GodricSlytherin
February 24th, 2003, 3:22 am
I want to know if we will see that thing that DD used to get rid of the lights in Privet drive in the first book......I hope we see it again!!! LOL!

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 24th, 2003, 5:55 am
The Put-Outer? Yes, it is pretty cool, isn't it!

Sirius Black
February 24th, 2003, 9:53 am
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Wonder if Harry saw it in Dumbledore's office.

Another question(Don't know where these come from, just popping in)
Bill works for Gringotts and in one quote, he said, They don't give a **** about my hair at work as long as I bring plenty of gold back home.
And Charlie works in Romania working on dragons. And now Percy's in the Ministry Of Magic and may be promoted to head since Crouch Sr died. Don't they have money?? That they can send to their parents?? Why do the weasleys live so poorly?

Also, how did Sirius just get into the Common Room by the Floo powder?
If Hogwarts is protected by ancient magic, I wonder how he did it. Why didn't he do it before, in POA? Instead of slashing the Fat Lady and all??
And can't Voldemort just do that to kill him in the next book?

Alastor D
February 24th, 2003, 3:11 pm
Sirius in the fireplace of Gryffindor's common room.
Floo powder seems to transport the whole body physically. I always thought that the talking head without body was some kind of thelepathic communication. But when Amos Diggory did the same thing at the Burrow, Molly gave him a toast. And thats physical. I wonder...
In PoA Sirius couldn't risk visiting a house to find a fireplace and if you get only your head into the other fireplace you can't climb the stairs to the dormitory to look for Scabbers.
When Snape threw some stuff in the fireplace and called for Lupin he came, stepped out in the room and then walked out through the door with Harry. But Harry didn't recognice this as floo powder. It seems fireplaces are multipurpose things.
Hogwarts is protected against apparating. What else we don't know, but how could it have fireplaces connected to the floo powder network? That would silly. Lupin came from within the school and they might have a separate internal network. But I think Snape used something else than floo.

spuachi
February 24th, 2003, 4:43 pm
Originally posted by Sirius Black (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=186699#post186699))
Yeah, that was pretty cool. Wonder if Harry saw it in Dumbledore's office.

Another question(Don't know where these come from, just popping in)
Bill works for Gringotts and in one quote, he said, They don't give a **** about my hair at work as long as I bring plenty of gold back home.
And Charlie works in Romania working on dragons. And now Percy's in the Ministry Of Magic and may be promoted to head since Crouch Sr died. Don't they have money?? That they can send to their parents?? Why do the weasleys live so poorly?


I think the job Charlie does is not very well paid. Like a scientist in our world, most of them work hard and earn little money.
Mr. Weasley works in the Ministry (just as Percy) and he isn't well paid either, so why should Percy be different? And he's new at the Ministry, so he may be earning less.
Bill could be the one earning more money, but maybe he doesn't. Or maybe he does help his family and still they don't have much.

Sirius Black
February 25th, 2003, 1:04 am
Originally posted by spuachi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=186984#post186984))
I think the job Charlie does is not very well paid. Like a scientist in our world, most of them work hard and earn little money.
Mr. Weasley works in the Ministry (just as Percy) and he isn't well paid either, so why should Percy be different? And he's new at the Ministry, so he may be earning less.
Bill could be the one earning more money, but maybe he doesn't. Or maybe he does help his family and still they don't have much.


But if 4 people put their money together, they should have enough. And Percy would probably be payed more than Mr.Weasley because remember , Mr.Weasley was in the Misuse Muggle Artefacts Office, so he was held back. And Percy's probably going to be promoted to head since Crouch Sr died. And the twins will open their joke shop soon.About the fireplace, I'm not sure, but I think if you use Floo Powder, you can stay in the fire and go back if you want, but likely not. So, no idea.

EvilMeghan
February 25th, 2003, 1:49 am
I don't think the "head in the fireplace" involves Floo Powder. I think it is more like a phone with a video...but since it's magic, they can give each other toast :D. That's what it seems like to me, anyway.

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 25th, 2003, 8:32 am
EvilMeghan, sounds plausible...

By the way, may I remind all that there are 9 people in the Weasley Family. With 7 of them at home, there is Mr Weasley's income, plus whatever board Percy pays. Bill and Charlie may or may not pay money to their parents for their care, schooling and lodging of their first 18 years. I feel they would, but it would only be a percentage of their wage. If you add the money from the 3 eldest siblings, it may make perhaps a second income. 2 incomes supporting 7 people. It isn't any wonder that the Weasley family don't have much spare money, especially with the youngest 4 seeming to be provided with adequate amounts of pocket money: Fred and George manage to raise 37 Galleons, 15 Sickles and 3 knuts between them at the Quidditch World Cup.

rotsiepots
February 25th, 2003, 11:12 am
Originally posted by EvilMeghan (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=187963#post187963))
I don't think the "head in the fireplace" involves Floo Powder. I think it is more like a phone with a video...but since it's magic, they can give each other toast :D. That's what it seems like to me, anyway.


I believe the technical term is "fire talking." :)

I agree with EvilMeghan; Floo powder is quite distinct from this method of communication. Floo powder involves the transport of a single entity from fireplace to fireplace. Fire talking, on the other hand, is a means of communication that involves an individual's head only appearing in the fireplace for the purpose of conversation. Besides, it seems that the Floo network is a restricted one; Fire talking should be, technically, available everywhere.

GodricSlytherin
February 26th, 2003, 1:26 am
I think I remember Sirius saying that DD was able to connect the fireplaces.....
And....the money they make..they probably have been willing to give it up...but....I think that Arthur and Molly don't want to take money from their own kids....

Mirabella Plunkett
February 26th, 2003, 7:27 am
There's a thread somewhere 'round here called
"Weasley's Poor Financial Decisions."

Let's look at the incomes involved.
Charlie is a zoologist. Salaries in the biosciences are pretty meager. Why do you think so many scientists ride bikes? :p
Bank employees like Bill may handle a lot of money, but that doesn't mean they take a whole lot home. My mom used to be a financial planner, but gave it up for a waitressing job b/c waitressing paid better.
Arthur's been kinda blacklisted in the MoM, so I'd suspect that even w/ seniority, his pay isn't that great.
Percy just started, so A) I doubt he's gonna be a department head soon, and B) he's making minimum wage at best.

jmk623
February 26th, 2003, 9:21 am
I have a question....
In PoA, when Harry overhears Mr&Mrs Weasley's conversation about Sirius Black? Well, Mr Weasley says that Harry and Ron had been in the Forbidden Forest twice....
Harry went there in his first year(detension) and second(meeting Aragog) but what about Ron? He went there once--meeting Aragog--

Did Ron go again??

hermiones mum
February 26th, 2003, 10:21 am
Ron was with Harry on both occaisions.

Has anyone noticed the cauldron popping up in the books...the full specification of cauldron in PS, Percys report on the thickness of cauldrons, the cauldron used to resurrect Voldemort, the fact that Harry has stayed at the Leaky Cauldron.....

the pot thickens.....sorry plot thickens

Picko
February 26th, 2003, 11:34 am
Ron was with Harry on both occaisions.

No he wasn't, in PS Harry, Hermione, Draco and Neville went into the Forbidden Forest. Ron didn't get on detention because he was in the hospital wing due to a bite from Norbert.

Ron only went in during the second year, the movie stuffed it up when they adapted the story for film.

Sirius Black
February 26th, 2003, 12:42 pm
Originally posted by hermiones mum (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=190218#post190218))
Ron was with Harry on both occaisions.

Has anyone noticed the cauldron popping up in the books...the full specification of cauldron in PS, Percys report on the thickness of cauldrons, the cauldron used to resurrect Voldemort, the fact that Harry has stayed at the Leaky Cauldron.....

the pot thickens.....sorry plot thickens


Exactly, it was only in the movie. The fire talking thing seems logical and the thing about Dumbledore linking up fireplaces is logical as well.

Nice finding there Jmk623, I thought I was the only one to be posting up the unexplained stuff. I seem to have run out of it.

Alastor D
February 26th, 2003, 3:07 pm
What happened with the pub down in the village, the Hog's Head, where Hagrid got the dragon egg?
In PoA and GoF the only bub seems to be The Three Broomsticks.

Anybody noticed that if you write that name in one word Hogshead it means "large cask; liquid or dry measure, usu. about 50 imperial gallons"? (Or so my dictionary says) Hagrid might like to have his butterbeer in a tankard that size.

Ellen
February 27th, 2003, 5:43 am
At the risk of making totally inane connections :whistle: I read a little about the use of defensive building designs in battles to try and control the enemy's movement. Some of it's pretty basic (narrow passes where the enemy can only come at you two at a time). Others are more complicated (which means I didn't follow much except the narrow pass part).

Anyhow, the idea is to have things set up so that the way the enemy _has_ to come at you puts the enemy in the worst possible position (like being able to pour boiling oil over anyone who comes at the castle gates).

So, assume with magic that you can't really make an impenetrable barrier. Suppose that the closest you can come is to make a barrier with a deliberate way through. Think of how a car hood is designed to fold at a certain point (rather than stay whole and push back into the passengers). The more force you apply, the more pronounced the fold gets. So, if a spell is designed to give at a certain point, applying more force to try and break it might simply force the spell caster more firmly into that point - because the attacking magic is trying to accomplish what the way out already does it somehow gets funneled in and winds up reinforcing things.

As for why Dumbledore didn't keep it in his pocket, 1) DD seems a tad absent minded. It may just be an act, but what if he forgot where he'd put it? 2) More importantly, someone who was very afraid of DD might still manage to pick his pocket without him noticing.

hermiones mum
February 27th, 2003, 7:13 am
Why does Harry refer to Draco as his arch enemy is COS? He met up with Voldemort in PS and knows that his parents were killed by him.

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 27th, 2003, 9:48 am
In Book 2, Harry perceives Draco as the closer, more real danger and threat? At that time, Voldemort seems to have been banished again and is residing in Albania, not terrorising Harry.

Dedalus
February 27th, 2003, 9:59 am
Originally posted by hermiones mum (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=191580#post191580))
Why does Harry refer to Draco as his arch enemy is COS? He met up with Voldemort in PS and knows that his parents were killed by him.

He doesn't percieve Draco as a serious threat, but he hates him like an enemy. It's petty, but often the petty details nag at you more. And it's hard to see the big details, often because they're too big to see clearly in the one frame.

SnowyOwl
February 27th, 2003, 4:22 pm
Sirius states that Karkaroff did a deal with the Ministry and put a load of people into Azkaban. Yet, if memory serves me correctly, when he named a few names only one of them (Rookwood?) was a new name to the Ministry.

Where do the "loads" of people come in?

Zahri Seb Melitor
February 28th, 2003, 9:55 am
Rookwood was a very influential Death Eater who would have had huge information-gathering networks. Many of them were probably completely innocent, like Ludo Bagman, but some of them must have been Death Eaters. One important name could lead to lots of important arrests if they recovered information from Rookwood.

lj
March 1st, 2003, 2:59 am
I think Alastor D is right. Like with the spell 'Alohamora' that opens a locked door - a door that has been physically locked. But when a spell or enchantment is locking the door, it becomes a different matter. Like in the Goblet of Fire when Dumbledore draws an age line around the Goblet and the Ageing Potion the twins take backfires. A spell is used to protect access from other spells.

lj
March 1st, 2003, 3:04 am
I also noticed a mistake (though it doesn't affect anything). Ghosts can't taste/eat/need food, right? Well in the Philosopher's Stone, Nearly Headless Nick says to Harry that he hasn't eaten in nearly four hundred years, so that's obviously the time he's been a ghost. But in the Chamber of Secrets, Nick has his five hundredth Death Day party. What do you say?

rotsiepots
March 1st, 2003, 4:29 am
lj, please try not to double post. If you remember an additional point after posting use the edit button to pin it on to your existing post. Alternatively, you can just wait for someone else to submit a reply in that particular thread, but you might be waiting for a while. ;)

Back on topic, the 400/500 year discrepancy in Nearly Headless Nick's deathday is quite well documented. I think fans have come to the consensus that Nick was confused at the Welcoming Feast in PS. Either than or JKR got her dates mixed up, but that would never happen...right?

P.S. We have to remember that JKR is only human. Unfortunately. :D

hermiones mum
March 1st, 2003, 8:59 am
Where did Fluffy come from and where did he go after P/S?

Alastor D
March 1st, 2003, 10:37 am
Hagrid bought him from a greek chap, didn´t he? Wasn't Fluffy's destiny discussed in a thread named 'Through the Trapdoor' or something like that?

Silk E Smooth
March 1st, 2003, 12:17 pm
I have a new question. Am I right in thinking that there is some kind of protection for Harry on Prive Drive? That's why Dumbledore keeps sending him back and why he left him there in the first place. But how does this "protection" thing work? Dobby, a servant to a Death Eater made it into his bedroom. Couldn't Dobby have easily gotten in if he wanted to harm Harry? And the Weasley's have had no trouble getting in and out. So is this a limited protection or what?

White_Rose
March 1st, 2003, 1:51 pm
Maybe they could enter because they had no intention to harm Harry. I believe the protection used (as I have said in other threads) is the secret keeper spell. It could be the spell over Privet Drive is like the one to keep muggles out, except working only for wizards with the dark mark (or just cruel intentions) to make them ignore or not see the house Harry is staying at.

Alastor D
March 1st, 2003, 2:32 pm
I agree with White Rose abt the Weasleys not being there to do any harm. Nor was Dobby.
I'm sure there are threads for this question already.
Anyway, I don't believe Harry being 1 year old could perform the Fidelius charm. And Voldie knew he was with the Dursleys but couldn´t touch him there due to Dd's arrangements.
Arabella Figg, figged out as the mad old muggle lady Mrs Figg, was propably one of those. Dedalus Diggle might have been involved too. And other things we never, yet, heard of.

White_Rose
March 1st, 2003, 2:40 pm
I don't think Harry himself did the Fidelius charm (forgot the name) but Dumbledore did it for Harry. I'm not sure how that works, but I think you could do that.

Alastor D
March 1st, 2003, 3:14 pm
Well, we don't know. Only JKR does.
It just seems strange to have a secret keeper and not know yourself who he/she is. Be that as it may, I'm sure that Dd arranged the protection in several ways.

Sirius Black
March 2nd, 2003, 2:19 pm
But Harry's got that special protection already. Remember, not only in Hogwart or near the Dursleys. Voldemort said he could touch Harry after his blood had been used. But before that, does that mean Voldemort couldn't even touch Harry before that?

And, how come Harry, Ron and Hermione, or even Hagrid didn't ask about Norbert to Charlie in book 4. Even Hagrid met Charlie at the first task.

And also, when those muggle-borns recieve their letters in their first year. Are they so thick as to believe it instantly?? Anyone'd think it's a prank. How are they convinced? Some kind of magic thing happens?

Alastor D
March 2nd, 2003, 2:52 pm
Well. Dd's arrangements to keep Harry protected as long as he stays with the Dursleys is one thing. That Voldie can touch him after sharing his blood without burning himself as Quirrell did is another.
The protection at Privet Drive still works. Remember Dd didn't allow Molly to take Harry for the summer.

Sirius Black
March 2nd, 2003, 2:53 pm
He didn't say Harry couldn't come, he just said not directly.

Zahri Seb Melitor
March 8th, 2003, 1:53 am
Oh! Harry's protections at the Dursleys ARE blood related. There are other defeses of course... aren't there?

Harry may be allowed to come later in the holidays, but not before his Birthday. Molly says the first bit and I say the second. Birthday's seem to be a time that Harry must be with the Dursely's for.

GodricSlytherin
March 8th, 2003, 2:19 am
Well. About the Muggles getting letters. I think that possibly someone is sent to their house. I think that Harry didn't perform the Fidelius Chamr. DD probably used some Ancient magic and possibly something Lily and James found out to protect Harry "just in case" and this "case" did actually happen. So, I think that more people know where he lives than we know. In the first book, it talks about Harry walking around and people he didn't even know saying hi to him, so if they know, everyone must know, it's just that Voldy can't get to them or anyone connected with evil intentions. Dobby didn't want to harm Harry. The weasleys didn't want to harm Harry,noone wanted to Harm Harry, Sirius was also able to be there as well. So. I think everyone knows Hary's whereabouts, it's just that, the evil ones can't do anything about it. But what about the imperius curse, but maybe the ancient magic can detect even that. So. This ancient magic can do a number of things, and I think it was owed to Lily and James, I can't wait to find outmore about them. Maybe DD found out how Dragon's blood could be used to protect Harry. On the wizarding card it says that he found 12 uses of Dragon's blood. So. What are these 12 uses, and of course DD would keep very valuable one's very secret so no one knows about it and so that he can use them and noone else knows. And stuff. So there I go. Now for my question....lol......let's see.......can't think of one right now. I'll be back to ask one though. wow I wrote a long post. I think this is the longest one yet. *cheers*

Alastor D
March 8th, 2003, 7:27 am
I agree with Godric. And Dd probably used some different kinds of magic to build up a watertight protection. He wouldn't relay on only one, would he? Figg and some others might have been active in that protection. Or just keeping their eyes open ready to report anything suspicious to Dd. Dedalus Diggle was supposed to live down in Kent, but he bowed to Harry in a shop. Petunia wouldn't take Harry with her down to Kent so this ought to have happened in Little Winging.

Vanilla Dream
March 8th, 2003, 7:48 am
Originally posted by Sirius Black (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=185063#post185063))
And also, if Filch is a squib, how come he can open the secret passages, because most of them require(I think) a wand and a word like Dissendium or something, or a tap of the wand, but Filch doesn't have a wand.


Please excuse my unintelligance here but what is a squib?

Llopin
March 8th, 2003, 8:16 am
A squib is a person who tried to be a wizard but failed in the process. Filch is a squib, as it was seen in CoS, becasue he tried to have magical powers with that magic course. he doesn't have any apparently, but he lives with wizards.
Filch may be a squib but I'm sure Dumbledore has taught him how to open the doors in a different way. Or maybe he has a wand that just works inside Hogwarts.

princess~of~lorien
March 8th, 2003, 9:40 pm
I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet but does anyone know why Crouch/Moody had to make the Triwizard cup into a portkey and go through quite a lot of trouble to make Harry win the tournament when he could have made anything into a portkey, like Harry's wand (I'm sure he could have got it somehow) or Harry's pillow?

Alastor D
March 9th, 2003, 7:17 am
It was important for Voldy to know the exact time for Harry's arrival. So he could be there at the graveyard with Wormtail and everything needed for restoring his body. And of course, if it had been made the easiest way, there had been much less to write about.

EvilMeghan
March 9th, 2003, 3:38 pm
It seems to be a lot of trouble to go through to protect Harry "just in case"... There must be something major that we don't know about. I don't think Neville would have received this kind of protection, and his parents were Aurors.

Hufflepuffy
March 10th, 2003, 11:28 pm
Originally posted by Alastor D (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=206209#post206209))
It was important for Voldy to know the exact time for Harry's arrival. So he could be there at the graveyard with Wormtail and everything needed for restoring his body. And of course, if it had been made the easiest way, there had been much less to write about.


But Voldemort wouldn't have known the exact time Harry would arrive at the cup. Who could have known how long it would take Harry to reach it? Also, what if Cedric had taken the cup, what would have happened then? Kinda risky.. And it just seems like so much work to make sure harry reached the cup-but without it there wouldn't have been much of a book.
I don't think Harry's pillow (I know it was just an example) couldn't have been used since Moody (aka Crouch Jr) doesn't know the password to the Gryffindor tower.

Mystic Fairy
March 11th, 2003, 3:01 am
[i]Originally posted by EvilMeghan
I don't think Neville would have received this kind of protection, and his parents were Aurors.

Yeah, but Voldemort wasn't trying to kill him, plus his family is full of wizards.

Alastor D
March 11th, 2003, 7:41 am
Yes Hufflepuffy. It was risky. But Voldy had no need to know the exact minute. It was enough to know it would happen that night. And Crouch jr could see through the mace partly. But of course there was no guarantee. The whole plot nearly missed.
As you said, an easier way to get Harry there would be another story. And the obvious answer to all our questions is: Because JKR wanted to write it that way.

Padfoot and Moony
March 23rd, 2003, 4:37 am
:devil Here are just some thoughts I've had, if you have theories on any of them feel free to post them!

What did Rubeus Hagrid do with Sirius Black's flying motorcycle?

What did Rubeus Hagrid do with Fluffy after the Stone was moved?

Now that Albus Dumbledore knows where the Chamber of Secrets is (if Harry told him about it), what will he do about it?

Is the rotting Basilisk corpse going to make Moaning Myrtle's bathroom stink?

Was Minerva ever married?

Where did the first names go?

The last one is the one I am the most annoyed by. These characters do (mostly) have last names, even if most of them are just called by last names. I understand the teachers do it to sound superior or threatening but that would be kind of hard for me, could anyone really be afraid of being called 'Kulp'? Oh, yeah, anyone who is gonna come rob me be warned, I have about 50 cents.....

DocHollidaywe
March 23rd, 2003, 5:48 am
ummm... well about the Bask ... i would guees the chamber is miles under ground and air tight shut .. so no smell

applepie15
March 23rd, 2003, 5:51 am
I don't think Minerva was ever married. In fact, were any of the teachers married?

Trigger Happy
March 23rd, 2003, 5:58 am
It's possible. Not much is known about any teachers private life, apart from Hagrid. I agree with Doc too.

GlassRoses314
March 23rd, 2003, 6:01 am
Well British people have a way of being proper. And a long time ago people (esp. British people) used to call each other by their last names. It was considered formal or polite. The only people who'd address each other by first name, were people who knew each other very well. Hence when someone would get "chummy" with someone else, they were considered to be on "first name basis". Being that the Wizarding world is still quite old-fashioned, (one of the things I love about the books) they still use this method of addressing an aquaintance. There are acceptions of course, i.e. the trio, Sirius Black, the other students. Hope that helps :)

Padfoot and Moony
March 23rd, 2003, 6:07 am
Thank you it helps some but still the one thing just bugs me with that idea of it, in many threads, fanfics, fansites and the like I see people saying someone's first name, and the other one's last name. It makes it look like it''s a whole new person..also here's just another thought, it's a quote from an interview with J.k.Rowling and has nothing to do with the subject at all but is stuck in my head: "You seem so sure they're going to survive"

GlassRoses314
March 23rd, 2003, 6:12 am
Are you refering to the way most people refer to Sirius as Sirius, yet refer to Remus as Lupin? I admit a little annoying, but Sirius is Harry's Godfather. How awkward would it be to call him 'Black'? And Remus is a teacher, Harry doesn't call Prof. McGonagall Minerva, so why address Lupin any differently?

About the quote from JKR .. wasn't it "You seem so sure Harry's going to survive"? Geez that quote gives me the freaks, or as Hagrid would say the 'collywobbles' (was it Hagrid who said that?). LoL Don't mind me I'm just rambling.

saz
March 23rd, 2003, 6:27 am
I always just assumed that Hagrid disposed of fluffy and the bike when they were no longer needed. The monster is no longer in the chamber of secrets so its probably not that important anymore.

go_anna40
March 23rd, 2003, 6:50 am
Here are some of my thoughts:

What did Rubeus Hagrid do with Sirius Black's flying motorcycle?
I believe he gave it back, or maybe Sirus (in that desperate situation), told Hagird to use and keep it.

What did Rubeus Hagrid do with Fluffy after the Stone was moved?
Um...put it down? I guess he would of, it did cause some trouble. Or maybe he sold it off.

Now that Albus Dumbledore knows where the Chamber of Secrets is (if Harry told him about it), what will he do about it?
Try and seal it...definately.

Is the rotting Basilisk corpse going to make Moaning Myrtle's bathroom stink?
I think it will, but I guess it would of been smart to clear it up, so I think Dumbledore did someone and got rid of it.

Was Minerva ever married?
Don't think so. She doesn't seem the marrying type :p
But she could of been, maybe she's a widow.

Aldawen
March 23rd, 2003, 6:54 am
I know what you mean about the Lupin thing. He's my favorite character, and I still don't feel comfortable calling him by his first name! Weird. I hate how the little questions are never answered, for example, I had been wondering since i read the first book who Parvati's sister was and which house she was in. It really annoyed me! I guess we'll have to wait and see if she tells the answers to these types of questions.
P.S. I really don't think she can kill Harry. Remember, there are seven books called Harry Potter and... and only four of them are out. So I think it is highly unlikely that he will meet his demise.

rotsiepots
March 23rd, 2003, 9:48 am
Some of the greater mysteries of the HP series have already been explored in a thread entitled Unexplained facts -- JKR probably missed out on these (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6018). You can find this thread in the Great Hall.

If you're unsure whether a topic has been discussed previously, please use the search (http://www.cosforums.com/a/search.php) function located at the top left-hand corner of your screen.

Thanks -- I'll merge these threads now.

:welcome: to the boards, Padfoot and Moony.

Master Dragonfly
March 23rd, 2003, 10:21 am
I think everyone calls Lupin Lupin because that is how everybody first saw him: a teacher. Harry and co. call him Lupin because he was their teacher. Just like you still call your old teacher Mr/miss/Mrs./ms. BLANK, even though s/he's not still your teacher anymore.

One thing that I thought was pretty wierd was how in the 4th book Harry said, "You don't think we'd believe anything that Skeeter cow---" What was he saying? It has to have been something bad, because he turned ti DD and said "Oops, sorry professor." But I don't know of any cuss words or anything that start with cow. So what is he saying...?

And I know why Crotch Jr went through all that trouble. He's a twisted old crackpot, like Voldemort. Didn't you see how idiotic they both acted? Crotch was constantly talking about how Dumbledore let him use illegal curses on his students, and Voldie walked around showing off instead of just crushing Harry with Avada K. right after he had his body back. Voldie had to waste time with his "Bow to death, Harry," when he could've killed Harry and saved himself the trouble. Harry was tied against a rock. He'd stand no chance. Twisted crackpots I tell you...

smartypants
March 23rd, 2003, 10:35 am
Originally posted by Llopin (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=204701#post204701))
A squib is a person who tried to be a wizard but failed in the process. Filch is a squib, as it was seen in CoS, becasue he tried to have magical powers with that magic course. he doesn't have any apparently, but he lives with wizards.
Filch may be a squib but I'm sure Dumbledore has taught him how to open the doors in a different way. Or maybe he has a wand that just works inside Hogwarts.


As I understand it a squib is a person born in a magic family but without magical powers. You don't "try" to be a wizard, you are born one.

I have yet to see the mentioning of one single door in Hogwarts that require you to use magic. Has I missed somesthing?

Padfoot and Moony
March 23rd, 2003, 9:27 pm
:devil: Where does Ron make his phone call to Harry from? :devil:

Starseyer
March 23rd, 2003, 10:00 pm
Originally posted by Sirius Black (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=178185#post178185))
I was wondering in book 2, if Harry could hear the voice of the Basilisk so clearly and loudly, why didn't Ron and Hermione hear hissing?

Parseltongue is a curious thing to me. For one thing, people can obviously hear another person speaking it. But apparently no one but a parselmouth can even hear a snake speak. I've also thought it curious that Harry was able to hear the boa constrictor speak through that glass pane at the zoo. It was still intact at the time. Also, since the mouth of a parselmouth doesn't appear to be different than the mouths of other humans, why can't other people learn parseltongue? I have an idea that it is more of a mental/telepathic type language than a regular spoken one. Any thoughts?

other thoughts: I don't think snakes use their tongues for communication at all anyway. If I remember right, they use them to smell.

sugarquill
March 24th, 2003, 9:15 am
Hmmm very interesting thinking points Starseyar.

smartypants
March 24th, 2003, 2:55 pm
Originally posted by Padfoot and Moony (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=226935#post226935))
:devil: Where does Ron make his phone call to Harry from? :devil:


A telephone? :D

Well, it's obviously not from their home. But they live close to a Muggle village, that would have phone booths. For example.

FizzingWhizbee
March 24th, 2003, 10:56 pm
Ah, it still boggles me that wizarding families dont have everyday things such as a telephone. You'd think they'd own one or at the very least know how to use one.

Alastor D
March 25th, 2003, 6:55 am
Well, at least Ron had never used one before. And clearly his father didn't know very much abt it either.

smartypants
March 25th, 2003, 11:09 am
They don't need it, they have had ways of communicating quickly for centuries.

Dedalus
March 25th, 2003, 11:31 am
Originally posted by Master Dragonfly (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=226099#post226099))

One thing that I thought was pretty wierd was how in the 4th book Harry said, "You don't think we'd believe anything that Skeeter cow---" What was he saying? It has to have been something bad, because he turned ti DD and said "Oops, sorry professor." But I don't know of any cuss words or anything that start with cow. So what is he saying...?

That was just it ... he called her a cow, and it's not nice to insult people in front of teachers, especially not in front of your headmaster ;) .


And as for the phones ... wizards consider Muggle objects a way of getting by without magic, and so they don't have any need for them. They have magic, so they do things the magical way.

Animagus
March 27th, 2003, 12:33 am
Is it just me or does harry's scar hold some unexplained mystery...
Why is Harry's scar in the shape of a lightning bolt? What does this mean? We do know that Harry's scar hurts him when Voldemort is near or is feeling particulary murderous, as Dumbledore has said. But what is the meaning of the lightning bolt? Could it mean that Harry has powers to do with lightning? Or maybe Voldemort had Lightning powers and transferred them to Harry as well as the power to talk to snakes. What do you guys think...?

Aldawen
March 28th, 2003, 12:26 am
Good observation, Animagus. I think we are going to find out very soon about Harry's scar, maybe even in 86 days!

kellybellybuton
March 29th, 2003, 1:35 am
sry if some ne already said this but the way i presumed hagrid go to the hut, on the rock, in the sea was he flew using his umbrella. Kind of like Mary Popins

Cat
March 29th, 2003, 1:44 am
Originally posted by Animagus (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=233069#post233069))
Is it just me or does harry's scar hold some unexplained mystery...
Why is Harry's scar in the shape of a lightning bolt? What does this mean? We do know that Harry's scar hurts him when Voldemort is near or is feeling particulary murderous, as Dumbledore has said. But what is the meaning of the lightning bolt? Could it mean that Harry has powers to do with lightning? Or maybe Voldemort had Lightning powers and transferred them to Harry as well as the power to talk to snakes. What do you guys think...?


It's been said somewhere in the books that scars like Harry's are from the touch of a powerful curse (presumably a powerful curse gone wrong, because other curses don't leave marks). The lightning bolt is a symbol of power, because of the voltage a bolt carries and the destruction it can cause.

Taliesin
March 29th, 2003, 3:50 am
Originally posted by Cat (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=237374#post237374))
It's been said somewhere in the books that scars like Harry's are from the touch of a powerful curse (presumably a powerful curse gone wrong, because other curses don't leave marks). The lightning bolt is a symbol of power, because of the voltage a bolt carries and the destruction it can cause.

hmmmm... good answer Cat (((hugs cat))) thanks! :D