Details that took several viewings to catch

[xXillusion]

Marge flying in the sky when Harry left the Drusleys
The clock teacking in the background when Harry and Hermoine went back in time

[luv2read]

In the first film, when Hermione shows Harry & Ron the book with the info about Nicholas Flammel (or however you spell it)...she drops the book onto Harry's hand.

And in PoA, when Harry is trying to steal Buckbeak, the crow nips him kind of hard I thought, on his finger. Wonder if that was intentional, or if the bird just up and bit him. The look on his face is of surprise.

[antiQueen]

This isn't very significant, and I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before, but it took me a couple of viewings to notice it:
In PS/SS when Harry, Ron and Hermione walks up to Hagrid's hut to ask him about the man who sold him Norbert's egg, Hagrid is playing the flute. And the tune he is playing is actually the Harry Potter theme.

Like I said, it's not very significant but it was fun to notice. :)

[bartletrules]

I'm not sure in which thread I should post this message, but the most appropiate one I found was this, so there we go:


I have to say that I'm a little disappointed with PoA movie. I know cinema and books are not the same media, but there are some details that I think could have appeared in the movie, they were not money-spending, time-consuming or anything like that. And there's something about PoA that make me feel unhappy: I don't know what it is but I got the extrange feeling that part of the 'soul' from the book was missed by Cuaron. I agree that Columbus gave PS and CoS a kinda childish look -that I liked very much, btw-, but I think the first two movies captured the environment from the books -specially the first film-. First two books are based on Harry discovering the magic world he belongs to, his hard destiny, and his new life.
In the 3rd book, my favourite, things become darker and evil forces begin to regroup for the final battle. We also start to get more information about Harry's origin and fate. Alfonso Cuaron gave the right darker look to the film, and added more intensity to the characters themselves (specially the students), but I think he lost completely that fairy-tale-look from Columbus, too. I liked that look in the first films, I don't think it had to be completely erased from the new HP films. At last, HP is a tale, a tale for kids and adults, but a tale. And I think that giving the saga a darker look and keeping its atractive as a tale for kids are not totally opposed.

Maybe, as PoA is my favourite book, I was eager to see the book literally transferred to the film and that's why I feel disappointed. But I still think that Cuaron missed part of HP magic. What do you think?

[natemac]

I definately agree that Cuaron lost the magic feeling. I went into the theatre with the mindset of jumping into the world of Harry Potter, and the magical feeling that comes with it. What I experienced in the movie was that it was way to Hollywood like. I think it had too much of the normal romantic-cheery-soap opera type feeling. I had got the impresson that it was just like any other film, except for storyline, of course.

I hope that in GoF, the corny moments are erased. Sometimes I felt like turning my head, or telling everyone that the books are NOT this corny.

We need to stay on topic though....

As in all movies, there are tons of things that you will not notice on your first, second, or even third time watching. Most of the things that I catch are very subtle, and of no importance.

With that, I say that the only real thing that took me several viewings to catch PoA was when Sir Cadogan in his portrait running around with his sword behind one of the character's. That is minor, and unimportant.

Cheers,
NateMac

[Holly is Short]

Does anyone notice Dan's one-eyed blinking? He does it less and less the more movies he makes.

[MoodyHarry]

In PoA there´s a man reading Stephen Hawkins book in the Leaky Cauldron. But thats a muggles book, and the man who reads it has to be a wizard.

Maybe im just stupid but i didnt believe wizards were interested in mugglebooks.The book is Stephen Hawkings "A Brief History of Time". Great book. Cuaron used a lot of imagery in PoA to underline the concept and idea of time. Hence the many shots of clocks. The book is just another way to illustrate time.

[Fury]

Did anyone notice that there was a big pause in the time turner scene between where they saw Hermione saying "You filthy little cockroach" part.. and the punch.

They see her say the first part... then Hermione explains what is going on...

Then when they look back. I believe Ron goes... "He's not worth it..." and she punches Draco. I have a feeling that the timing is a little off...

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Also I have been craning my neck to see if the trio is actually the trio when Harry and Hermione go back in time...

[paloma]

I noticed that when Harry uses "Expelliarmus" on Snape, the person who gets blasted with that spell is not Alan Rickman :D

[RupertGrintsFit]

Did anyone notice that there was a big pause in the time turner scene between where they saw Hermione saying "You filthy little cockroach" part.. and the punch.

I agree totally its the same with the whomping willow. after harry and hermione save buckbeak they sit down to wait for themselves to come out of the tree. Hermione says snapes coming then harry explains about his father. Once he finished it gets dark and lupin howls. the times off there because it takes longer discovering peter than harry explaining to hermione.

[Fury]

Are the trio really the trio in the movie when they go back in time... because if they aren't they look a lot like them....

I am talking about where Harry and Hermione are watching behind the pumpkins.. and then they retreat to the trees and the trio comes out...

Also when Hermione punches Draco...

[hawk1245]

I agree totally its the same with the whomping willow. after harry and hermione save buckbeak they sit down to wait for themselves to come out of the tree. Hermione says snapes coming then harry explains about his father. Once he finished it gets dark and lupin howls. the times off there because it takes longer discovering peter than harry explaining to hermione.

Actually remember when it shows the batss flying? That signifies a time lapse, so they skip the time. The REAL mistake in that same scene is that when the moon comes up the whole scene with Lupin goes by in about 10 seconds, when in the Real Time verion it takes about 4 minutes 9Hermkinoe asking Proffesor Lupin if he's himself, Snape coming out, Padfoot fighting Moony, and Harry hitting him with the Rock). This is a mistake because there is no implied time lapse.

[Fury]

Actually remember when it shows the batss flying? That signifies a time lapse, so they skip the time. The REAL mistake in that same scene is that when the moon comes up the whole scene with Lupin goes by in about 10 seconds, when in the Real Time verion it takes about 4 minutes 9Hermkinoe asking Proffesor Lupin if he's himself, Snape coming out, Padfoot fighting Moony, and Harry hitting him with the Rock). This is a mistake because there is no implied time lapse.

I agree... when it came to Time Lapse... they pretty much messed up.

[hawk1245]

Something new I just noticed! If you look at the Executioners axe as he sharpens it, you can see the letters M. N. engraved on it, obviously standing for "MacNair, which is of course, his name!

[Fury]

Something new I just noticed! If you look at the Executioners axe as he sharpens it, you can see the letters M. N. engraved on it, obviously standing for "MacNair, which is of course, his name!

Actually.. MacNair is a last name... so.. it might not be. the initials might be... M for first name... N for last name. But maybe you are right.

Wow.. never noticed the letters on it though.

[slythingrl]

I really haven't noticed anything, but ya'lls sightings I will look for on my next HP movie night. Ok ya'll? And ifI find anything I will post it. :)

[MoodyHarry]

This detail is something that applies to all three Harry Potter movies.

Has any ever noticed that Harry is the only kid who wears glasses. These days a few kids will need glasses, but in the movies, Harry is the only one ever. This doesn't apply to the Professors. Half the professors wear glasses (McGonagall, Dumbledore, Trelawney, etc).

Just something that I think is intentional to allow Harry to stand out a bit more. :)

[Fury]

This detail is something that applies to all three Harry Potter movies.

Has any ever noticed that Harry is the only kid who wears glasses. These days a few kids will need glasses, but in the movies, Harry is the only one ever. This doesn't apply to the Professors. Half the professors wear glasses (McGonagall, Dumbledore, Trelawney, etc).

Just something that I think is intentional to allow Harry to stand out a bit more. :)

Yeah Percy is supposed to wear glasses... it says he has horn-rimmed glasses.

[MoodyHarry]

Yeah Percy is supposed to wear glasses... it says he has horn-rimmed glasses.Has Percy ever worn glasses in the movie. I have actually seen the actor in real life wear glasses but not in the movies. Correct me if I am wrong though.

[Fury]

Has Percy ever worn glasses in the movie. I have actually seen the actor in real life wear glasses but not in the movies. Correct me if I am wrong though.

I am not saying he has... I am saying his character (in the books, mind you) is usually seen with glasses.. though many do not see him as a person with glasses.

[Machiavelli]

I am not saying he has... I am saying his character (in the books, mind you) is usually seen with glasses.. though many do not see him as a person with glasses.That's because in the books he does have glasses doesn't he? When the twins force his Weasley jumper over his head they knock his glasses crooked... at least that's what I remember!

Did anyone notice that there's a polite notice on the Knight Bus reminding passengers that beds will slide when the bus is in motion?

[Fury]

That's because in the books he does have glasses doesn't he? When the twins force his Weasley jumper over his head they knock his glasses crooked... at least that's what I remember!

Did anyone notice that there's a polite notice on the Knight Bus reminding passengers that beds will slide when the bus is in motion?

That is how i knew he has glasses...

No never noticed the notice... lol!

[hawk1245]

Actually.. MacNair is a last name... so.. it might not be. the initials might be... M for first name... N for last name. But maybe you are right.

Wow.. never noticed the letters on it though.

Oh, I knew it was a last name. According to the book, his first name is 'Walden', so it isn't the first name.

[Fury]

Noticed four things last night in POA!

1. During the Buckbeak scene... when Hermione tells Hagrid to take Draco to the Hospital Wing... her black robes are off... she is just wearing the undershirt (white shirt)
2. After Harry hears the thing about Sirius being his godfather from McGonagall... he runs out of the place and runs right through those Carolers... those Carolers are like... goblins or dwarves or something
3. When Harry is in the Hospital Wing for the first time... after the Quidditch Match... there is a black girl beside Ron (she is behind Hermione) that might be Lavendar Brown
4. During the first Boggart Scene, in DADA class... at one point the person who plays Parvati... is standing next to this one girl... who looks a lot like Parvati... that could be Padma.

But (and this regards number 4) that would mean students from three houses in one class (Gryffindor, Slytherin, and Ravenclaw)

[tonkscrazy]

I dont know if this had already been mention .
in the scene where Hagrid shows the hipogriff , he asks if anyone want to say hello...
( thats really funny),and Neville try to hide himself in a stone near him ...i love that scene ...brilliant .

[Norberta]

Sorry if it's already been said but:

In CoS, Ron's robes are more worn out than Harry's and Hermione's.
You can especially notice in the seen when they discover Filch's cat petrified.

I thought that was a cool detail as he is supposed to be using second-hand stuff.

[aggiefan1206]

Has anyone noticed that in the scene where everyone is sleeping in the great hall after the fat lady incident if you look up at the sky as Dumbledore says something about dreams. It seems like there is a giant bird in the clouds and skys possibly a pheonix. I watched it two days ago and its the first time i had noticed that. Has anyone else noticed that. In that scene the sky of the great hall is covered in stars and a sorta fog and its shape is that of apheonix possibly

[hawk1245]

QUOTE:
"3. When Harry is in the Hospital Wing for the first time... after the Quidditch Match... there is a black girl beside Ron (she is behind Hermione) that might be Lavendar Brown"

Was Lavendar ever described as dark skinned? According to the credits, Lavendar was cast for the film, but I never knew which girl was her.

QUOTE:
"But (and this regards number 4) that would mean students from three houses in one class (Gryffindor, Slytherin, and Ravenclaw)[/QUOTE]"

Just to clerify: in the film universe, the classes are sorted by year, not house. So that is all of the third years from every house (Hufflepuffs are in the DADA class as well) are in the same class together. This is true in each film, there is someone from every house in each class.

[MoodyHarry]

You know you've watched a movie too much when....

In the Leaky Cauldron, when Harry is in Fudge's office, there is a nice
touch in the background. The magic quill that is moving on Fudge's desk is recording all of the conversation. The quill itself moves only when someone is talking. If you watch carefully, the quill stops "writing" when no one speaks. A nice little detail.

[aggiefan1206]

I was watching the scene where Harry and everyone is sleeping in the great hall and Dumbldore says something about dreams. Then it shows the sky in the great hall and it is stars and clouds/mist in the shape of what looked like apossible pheonix. I watched the part a few times. And you can see a pheonix in the sky from the shape of the stars and clouds/mist. Did anyone else see that.

[ChoRadcliffe]

Noticed four things last night in POA!

1. During the Buckbeak scene... when Hermione tells Hagrid to take Draco to the Hospital Wing... her black robes are off... she is just wearing the undershirt (white shirt)
2. After Harry hears the thing about Sirius being his godfather from McGonagall... he runs out of the place and runs right through those Carolers... those Carolers are like... goblins or dwarves or something
3. When Harry is in the Hospital Wing for the first time... after the Quidditch Match... there is a black girl beside Ron (she is behind Hermione) that might be Lavendar Brown
4. During the first Boggart Scene, in DADA class... at one point the person who plays Parvati... is standing next to this one girl... who looks a lot like Parvati... that could be Padma.

But (and this regards number 4) that would mean students from three houses in one class (Gryffindor, Slytherin, and Ravenclaw)

2. Yeah, I noticed that. I thought it was funny that Hermione was apologizing while she pushes her way through them and Ron goes “Merry Christmas” or something
3. That’s not Lavender Brown. That’s Angelina Johnson. In the book, she’s described as a black girl and it would make for sense because she’s on the Quidditch team. And I don’t think Lavender’s black, is she?
4. Yeah, I’ve noticed the girl who plays Parvati standing next to the other girl a lot and figured she was Padma. So much for identical twins. Meh.

Have you guys checked out the Magic You Might Have Missed on the Special Features DVD? I think it's brilliant.

[hawk1245]

2. Yeah, I noticed that. I thought it was funny that Hermione was apologizing while she pushes her way through them and Ron goes “Merry Christmas” or something
3. That’s not Lavender Brown. That’s Angelina Johnson. In the book, she’s described as a black girl and it would make for sense because she’s on the Quidditch team. And I don’t think Lavender’s black, is she?
4. Yeah, I’ve noticed the girl who plays Parvati standing next to the other girl a lot and figured she was Padma. So much for identical twins. Meh.


It is NOT Angelina Johnson. She is over at other bed tending to another player (who, by fan logic, is actually Olover Wood with his face being conviniently covered up. The quidditch players are all in their uniforms, and are as follows:

Fred: On the right side of Harry's bed (Harry's left)

George: standing behind ron.

Angelina Johnson, Katie Bell, and Alicia Spinnet: all standing by the bed next to Harry.

Oliver Wood: in the bed that the three girl players are tending to. Since Sean Biggerstaff dosen't feature, Oliver's head is covered by one of the Girl's bodies. LOL! But Oliver fans can still point out that techniclly he is still in the film, even though we can never see his face! (he is also seen by one of the goal hoops, and of course, is obscurred by the pouring rain.).

Also, Angelina Johnson is a few to the right of from Harry when he gets is Firebolt.

[ChoRadcliffe]

Haha, I was just thinking about that after I posted and was comtemplating whether or not it was her. Guess not then. But wasn't Oliver Wood still in the shower after that game, according to the Weasley twins- trying to down himself? I haven't read the books in ages. Probably should. I never thought it was Wood in that scene, though I wondered who it was.

This one didn't take me a few showings, but did it annoy anyone that in the lake/dementor/Patronus scene, Sirius suddenly opens his eyes with a look of shock and terror and then a second later when the camera angle changes, you see it from above and Sirius's eyes are closed again.

[kenmarekestrel]

I noticed in the scene where they come out of the willow, when Hermione stays with Ron and Harry goes off to talk to Sirius, Ron says to Hermione that his leg is ruined, it will have to come off. I love that line. Its like Ron is playing up the pain he is enduring to impress Hermione.

Also, has anybody else noticed that, in the the scene where the twins give harry the map there is a tag on a person that says NEWT Scamander who is one of the authors of their school books. Its obviously filler that nobody was supposed to notice but obviously someone did (me!).

[ChoRadcliffe]

Yeah, I loved that too. There are a lot of background lines that I don't think I would have gotten if it weren't for the subtitles on the DVD

[hawk1245]

Haha, I was just thinking about that after I posted and was comtemplating whether or not it was her. Guess not then. But wasn't Oliver Wood still in the shower after that game, according to the Weasley twins- trying to down himself? I haven't read the books in ages. Probably should.

Well, in the books, yeah. But in the movies it apears that he was struck by lighning and injured. If you watch the match, you see lightning can travel through the metal of the hoops. I bet he was leaning up against the hoop casually, and gota minor but wind knocking zap. Ouch!

[/QUOTE] This one didn't take me a few showings, but did it annoy anyone that in the lake/dementor/Patronus scene, Sirius suddenly opens his eyes with a look of shock and terror and then a second later when the camera angle changes, you see it from above and Sirius's eyes are closed again.[/QUOTE]

The camera cuts go like this:

#1: Sirius opens his eyes in terror.

#2: Harry looks up, cloesup of Harry

#3: Areal shot of the tornado of dementors, Siriu's eyes are closed.

So that leaves enough time between shots #1 and #2 for him to close his eyes. My guess? He opens up, see the dementors and passes out again because of the horrible sight. I mena, Harry is the only one who fainst when healthy, but look at the state Sirius is in!

[hpfan_08]

In POA during the boggart scene if you whatch the line closly the order switchs when it it is time fo rHarry to go up, its as if he cut.

[ChoRadcliffe]

On the Knight Bus, there’s a sign that reads: “Firey Black Pepper Imp.” Inked onto the bus is “Passengers are reminded that beds will slide when bus is moving” and “Passengers are reminded not to distract diver AT ANY TIME.”

When the old lady’s crossing in front of the Knight Bus and the Srhunken Head is counting down, he goes “…4, 3, 3 ½, 2, 1 ¾…” Shouldn’t it be 3 ½ first and then 3?

In the Leaky Cauldron, the wizard (who is stirring his drink with his finger) is reading A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking.

[Fury]

When the old lady’s crossing in front of the Knight Bus and the Srhunken Head is counting down, he goes “…4, 3, 3 ½, 2, 1 ¾…” Shouldn’t it be 3 ½ first and then 3?


Actually the counting down part is one of my favorite parts (don't ask me why)

But he says 2 ½, not 3 ½

[ChoRadcliffe]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChoRadcliffe
When the old lady’s crossing in front of the Knight Bus and the Srhunken Head is counting down, he goes “…4, 3, 3 ½, 2, 1 ¾…” Shouldn’t it be 3 ½ first and then 3?

Actually the counting down part is one of my favorite parts (don't ask me why)

But he says 2 ½, not 3 ½

Nope, it's 3 1/2. I just watched it again to make sure. And the subtitles go "3, 3 1/2..." as well.

[Fury]

Nope, it's 3 1/2. I just watched it again to make sure. And the subtitles go "3, 3 1/2..." as well.

Oh... okay. I swore I heard it was 2/12.. probably because in my mind it was just how it would normally go. I was not looking for a mistake.

[LondonGirl26]

I noticed in the scene where they come out of the willow, when Hermione stays with Ron and Harry goes off to talk to Sirius, Ron says to Hermione that his leg is ruined, it will have to come off. I love that line. Its like Ron is playing up the pain he is enduring to impress Hermione.

Yeah, I didn't notice that until I used the captions on the DVD. It was harder for me to catch those lines in the theatre. It's funny because it shows that Ron was taking a cue from watching Malfoy complain about his arm to that girl (Pansy Parkinson?) in the Great Hall. Interestingly, in the scene from the Great Hall, Ron remarks that Malfoy is "laying it on thick", but then he ends up using the same tactic on Hermione to gain sympathy and attract her attention. :lol:

[Scottman]

Yeah, I think that's something of a "guy thing." Ron probably would have played wounded even if he didn't see Malfoy doing the same thing. :D

[BrAinPaiNt]

Here are some things I found while looking at amazon when I went to buy the DVDs.

I still have not had a chance to check them all out...

PS/SS

Among the portraits on the shifting staircase, you can clearly see a painting of Anne Boleyn, King Henry VIII's second wife and the mother of Queen Elizabeth I. Anne Boleyn was popularly believed to be a witch.

The inscription around the Mirror of Erised says: Erised stra ehru oyt ube cafru oyt on wohsi. Reading the inscription backwards it says, "I show not your face but your heart's desire."

The film reveals that the 12th use for dragon's blood is an oven cleaner.

The Hogwarts motto, "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" means "never tickle a sleeping dragon".

Warwick Davis (I), who played Professor Flitwick and the first Gringotts Goblin, also provided the voice for Griphook who was physically played by Verne Troyer. (<- also known better as Mini Me)

Alan Rickman was hand-picked to play Snape by J.K. Rowling

To the left of James Potter's seeker badge in the display case there is a badge with the name "R.J.H. King". This is a reference to John King (V), the supervising art director on the film.

Robbie Coltrane was also handpicked by JK Rowling to play Hagrid



COS

As Hagrid is taking Harry away from Knockturn Alley, we see, in one of the shop windows in the background, an entire set of Harry Potter books

As Harry enters Prof. Dumbledore's study, a portrait of Gandalf the Grey is included in the collection of the great wizard paintings. It is above the doorframe and slightly to Harry's right.


Some of the portraits in Hogwarts are actually faces of production designer Stuart Craig (I) and executive producer Mark Radcliffe (I).

While chatting with the Grangers at the bookshop, Mr. Weasley says, "I understand that other muggles are afraid of you." This makes little sense unless you know that both Hermione's parents are dentists.

a story circulated that Emma Watson (II) broke her left wrist during filming and that you can just see a little bit of the cast under her sleeve in some scenes, but it turned out to be false.

All four of director, Chris Columbus's children appear in this movie. Eleanor Columbus plays Susan Bones (also plays her in the first movie), Brendan Columbus plays a boy in study hall, Violet Columbus plays the little girl with flowers and Isabella Columbus plays the little girl in the bookstore

When Harry and Ron are called to the dormitory it has been ransacked. As Harry sifts through the pile of books on the floor you briefly see Volume 4 of the Encyclopedia Magica from TSR's Dungeon and Dragon's second edition.


POA

When we see the Marauder's Map for the first time, the name 'Newt Scamander' can be seen. In the Harry Potter universe, he wrote the book "Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them", but isn't a teacher at Hogwarts.

On the fountain in the courtyard exit to Hogsmeade, there are several statues of Eagles eating snakes. This is a commemoration to director Alfonso Cuarón and his mexican heritage, as the exact image appears on the Mexican flag.

In the scene where Harry is given the Maruader's Map by the Weasley twins, the name "Moony" is misspelled as "Mooney." While not really a mistake, there is still an interesting connection. The film's visual effects supervisor is named Karl Mooney. The spelling was changed deliberately for the in-joke.


When the Boggart takes the form of a giant snake, the "snake pit" theme from Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) is worked into the soundtrack by John Williams (I) who also did the music for that film.

During the credits on the Marauder's Map watch for: Footprints that turn into paw prints; footprints that take special interest in the closing credits' creator; and Hogsmeade landmarks, including the Book of Monster's (sic) Repair Shop and The Stink Bomb Shop. candles when Harry enters Madame Rosmerta's Tavern.

Another reference to the director's Mexican heritage: as Dumbledore descends the stairs out of sight at the end of the movie, he's humming the "Mexican Hat" song.



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There is some more trivia at amazon.com if you click on the link and then each movie.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/102-3374662-5236913

[hawk1245]

[/QUOTE]As Hagrid is taking Harry away from Knockturn Alley, we see, in one of the shop windows in the background, an entire set of Harry Potter books

As Harry enters Prof. Dumbledore's study, a portrait of Gandalf the Grey is included in the collection of the great wizard paintings. It is above the doorframe and slightly to Harry's right.[/QUOTE]

these are both false. There is not a portrait of Gandalf in Dumbledore's office, the only two who do are obviouslt not when you take the tour on the COS, one is Salazar Slytherin, and the other has brown hair and a green robe, and the one the these direction point to has a purple robe. None of these are Gandalf, pure rumor.

The books in the wondow are not the HP books, they are Lockhart books. I zoomed to check this one.

In POA during the boggart scene if you whatch the line closly the order switchs when it it is time fo rHarry to go up, its as if he cut.

Yeah, but the best bit there is the obvious cutting of Seamus from the boggart scene. He is clearly next in line after Ron. But after Ron, Lupin calls Parvata, and in the shot of Ron walking to the back of the line, you can actually SEE Seamus walking up to the boggart but in the next shot he is magiclly replaced by Parvati. There was a lengthy scene of a conga line after Seamus's ridiculus spell that was cut for length and pacing.

[MoodyHarry]

A story circulated that Emma Watson (II) broke her left wrist during filming and that you can just see a little bit of the cast under her sleeve in some scenes, but it turned out to be false. Actually, I think she did break her wrist. When Hermione is spooning the Polyjuice potion into the cups, you can see her wrist doesn't move very well. Also, the white shirt's cuff is pulled far down over her wrist. If you look carefully, a hint of cast can be seen.

When we see the Marauder's Map for the first time, the name 'Newt Scamander' can be seen. In the Harry Potter universe, he wrote the book "Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them", but isn't a teacher at Hogwarts.
When Harry is in the dark hallway looking for Pettigrew, he stops in the hall and looks around. On the map, you can see that Harry is standing outside a room labelled "Mischief". I thought that was appropriate :)

Another reference to the director's Mexican heritage: as Dumbledore descends the stairs out of sight at the end of the movie, he's humming the "Mexican Hat" song.That's what that is! I caught Dumbledore humming the tune and recognized it but for the life of me, couldn't remember what is was called. Thank you!!

Also, when Harry is about to leave Fudge's office, he stops and Fudge says "Harry, it is best that you don't go wandering around.' Harry then holds out his arm and calls for Hedwig. Hedwig flys over to Harry and lands on his forearm. You can see here that Harry now is wearing a black arm band to protect against the owl's claws. It's hard to see since it's black, but you can see it cover Harry's fingers a bit.

[FIanor]

The reason about the seamus switch, I think I read somewhere, was because what ever seamus was afraid of was replaced by a lass in a bikini!( which might have been a problem with the PG13 rating :)

On the knight bus (one of my all time fav scenes-that head with the Jamaican accent was hillarious ) Did you notice the nature of that sleeping wizards socks?

Stan's cockney accent and acne were perfect. That was typical of real inner London which is full of cockney's and Jamaicans as you know.It can sound like that on the bus too.

the scene in the playground before sirus apperance doesnt seem right for some reason , too contrived.

what was that creature in hagrid's hut , by the way?

[Kuroi_Shadow]

what was that creature in hagrid's hut , by the way?

It kinda looked like a Blast-Ended Skrewt (sp?) to me. Maybe a hint for the next movie?

Anyway, near the beginning of the credits for POA when Robbie Coltrane's name banner comes up, the footprints walking around it are bigger (to imply Hagrid, obviously) than the other footprints in the credits.

[Alfonzo]

It kinda looked like a Blast-Ended Skrewt (sp?) to me. Maybe a hint for the next movie?

I surely hope not, that creature would make a rubbish Blast-Ended Skrewt! :lol: I think it was just another 'nice-touch', which I didn't think was necessary... :whistle:

[remusjlupin1980]

I surely hope not, that creature would make a rubbish Blast-Ended Skrewt! :lol: I think it was just another 'nice-touch', which I didn't think was necessary... :whistle:

How is it not necessary? Because it wasn't in the book? Gimme a break. Hagrid has this habit of loving dangerous, sometimes illegal creatures. This is very true to the book and his character.

[Alfonzo]

How is it not necessary? Because it wasn't in the book? Gimme a break. Hagrid has this habit of loving dangerous, sometimes illegal creatures. This is very true to the book and his character.

I didn't dislike it really, it was actually a fairly nice touch - I just don't think that it had to be included that's all. I'm not too bothered about the fact that it's in there. It doesn't, however, look anything like a Blast-Ended Skrewt should look like, in my opinion. It is, of course, only my opinion - i'm sure that many would disagree :).

[Fury]

Blast Ended Skrewts look like Scorpions. That was no where near it. It was... I dunno what it was. It was cool though.

[MoodyHarry]

I don't think this one has been mentioned yet.

During the scene in the corridor, Harry is looking for Pettigrew. Pettigrew passes him on the map. Harry looks down and now sees that Severus Snape is heading towards him. Harry says "Mischief Managed" then "Nox". If you look to the right of Harry - "behind him" - right after Harry says nox and before the light goes out, you can see Snape coming around the corner.

[cinnamon822]

I think that creature was a flobberworm.

[hawk1245]

I think that creature was a flobberworm.

Are yout joking? And I mean that seriously, not sarcasticlly. Because Flobberworms are almost just like regular worms and Harry points out in GOF that flobberworms can't bite because they don't have teeth. Its just a random non-book creature that is meant to spice up Hagrid's love for dangerous animals. Just as a side not:

Pettigrew says to Lupin:

"Turn me into a flobberworm, anything but the dementors!" when they are exiting the WW, listen very carefully when they firsst emerge.

[Blizzard]

I have always imagined Flubberworms as regular worms that are extra "wobbly" and rainbow coloured.

[hilkaryIC]

A touch of cinematic symbolism: When Harry has just left the Dursley's and is walking at night, he comes to a fork in the road. Camera pans up and clearly shows there are two paths to choose. But insteed Harry chooses that he will sit down on the curb. In one way this sets up for Harry to notice Sirus and catch the Knight bus, but I think Cuaron wants us to heed more significance. What are these two paths that lay before him? Does Harry choose not to choose at all?

[ChoRadcliffe]

1. During the Buckbeak scene... when Hermione tells Hagrid to take Draco to the Hospital Wing... her black robes are off... she is just wearing the undershirt (white shirt)
Do you mean that that's a mistake? Because it isn't. Hermione already had her robes off by the time Harry landed.

[Allemande]

In POA:
After the beginning of the year feast, when the Fat Lady is "singing," and won't let anyone in, at the point when she starts screaming and then breaks the glass, if you look carefully at the pictures in the background, a knight jumps into one of them with I believe it is a sword drawn. He does this again when Sirius attacked the Fat Lady.
When Fudge pulls up in front of the bar in his carriage, or whatever it was, Hagrid is there, and then the next second you see that he has accidentally broken off a piece of it. I found that really amusing. Also in this scene, when McGongall and Fudge go to talk to Madame Rosmerta about the dementors, where did Hagrid go?

[hawk1245]

In POA:
After the beginning of the year feast, when the Fat Lady is "singing," and won't let anyone in, at the point when she starts screaming and then breaks the glass, if you look carefully at the pictures in the background, a knight jumps into one of them with I believe it is a sword drawn. He does this again when Sirius attacked the Fat Lady.

That is Sir Cadogan, if you haven't read the book he takes over for the Fat Lady because she refuses to return to gaurding untill Sirius Black is caught (due to her her run in with him). He is in one of the Deleted scenes on the DVD

[/QUOTE]When Fudge pulls up in front o f the bar in his carriage, or whatever it was, Hagrid is there, and then the next second you see that he has accidentally broken off a piece of it. I found that really amusing. Also in this scene, when McGongall and Fudge go to talk to Madame Rosmerta about the dementors, where did Hagrid go?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that was funny! I liked how he says the exact same thing he said in PS when he brok the Durlseys door: "Sorry 'Bou Tha!:, he even says it with the same emphasis. LOL as for where he went if you look carefully, Mcgonagall is coming from one end of the street walking, and Hagrid is coming from the other end. So Hagrid was probably just having a little walk and had an errend to do. No reason for him to come in if he didn't want to.

[paloma]

Here's something probably only a die-hard poultry fancier like myself would notice: in CoS, there's a scene where a bunch of students are studying and throwing suspicious glances at Harry (this is right after they've discovered he's a Parselmouth). Almost every kid is using a quill made from a large, barred owl feather (I don't mean that the feathers are from a barred owl, just that the feathers have "stripes"--what a bird fancier would refer to as "bars")...but anyway, GINNY is holding what looks like a feather from a rooster!

I keep a few pet roosters, and tend to save their prettiest feathers whenever they moult, so I hope I can recognize a rooster feather when I see one... Of course I could be completely wrong about this...but I don't want to be, because it would be just too clever of them (the art director, props person or whomever) to stick that little clue in there!


Yeah, that was funny! I liked how he says the exact same thing he said in PS when he brok the Durlseys door: "Sorry 'Bou Tha!:, he even says it with the same emphasis.
*Snort* I love that scene...I also like the way Fudge responds by saying "Oh, Hagrid!", kinda with an equal measure of exasperation and resignation :D

[soccer]

Did anyone notice that when Snape found Harry in the corridor, after Lupin and Harry left, the ghost in the painting said "What are you deaf? Turn off that light."
Also when Harry and Hermione were sitting in the woods looking at the Whomping Willow waiting for the others to come out of the WIllow, a bunch of bats flew by. In the book, they didnt know how Snape got down there so fast. In the movie, Harry and Hermione would of seen Snape go into the Willow, but they didnt. This is left out because they didnt see him, because Snape is also a BAT.
If Snape isnt a vampire then he is just a bat animagus or something.

[Naitch]

Here's something to chew on- in COS, Dumbledore talks about Phoenixes, and how they rise from the ashes after they die. Then between COS and POA, Sir Richard Harris passes away, and the part is recast. Thus Dumbledore, in part, was reborne from the ashes.

[HarryLass]

I was just taking a look at the DVD to find some of the thing you all mentioned and I found that after the first visit to Hogsmeade, when the Fat Lady's portrait is slashed, Harry is holding either a Sneakoscope or a Remembral. It's a clear plastic sphere with a blue ball inside of it. Also, on the wall, there is a giant painting of an eye that watches Percy go down the stairs. The other eye is on the other side of the hall. Seamus also looks directly into the camera, though this could be excused as a way to "see" Percy coming down the stairs.

Makes me wonder; where is the nose to go with that pair of eyes?

[leverystrange]

CoS

In the movie they leave out the part where Harry reads that a roosters crow can kill a basilisk, and that Ginny was killing Hagrids roosters; BUT when Hagrid bursts into Dumbledore's office and tries to tell him that Harry didn't petrify Justin & Nearly headless Nick, he's holding a dead rooster. If I hadn't re-read the book I wouldn't have realised, I just thought Hgrid was preparing dinner or something.

[hawk1245]

CoS

In the movie they leave out the part where Harry reads that a roosters crow can kill a basilisk, and that Ginny was killing Hagrids roosters; BUT when Hagrid bursts into Dumbledore's office and tries to tell him that Harry didn't petrify Justin & Nearly headless Nick, he's holding a dead rooster. If I hadn't re-read the book I wouldn't have realised, I just thought Hgrid was preparing dinner or something.

The rooster thing was shot, but all of the scenes where it's mentions were cut out. On the cast interviews on the COS dvd you there is a bit where it shows the filming of the 'Pipes' scene, and Harry says as he is reading the paper "Spiders flee before it and the crowing of a rooster can kill it! Ron thats is, the monster in the chamber is a..." etc etc. Also, a deleted scene on the DVD shows Harry running into Hagrid before finding Justin and NHN, and Hagrid tells him that this is the second rooster killed that term, and he hold up the rooster that you later spotted in AD office. In the original script, Riddle said "Yes Harry it was Ginny weasley who opened the chamber of secrets. It was Ginny who set the basilisk on the Mudbluds and the squibs cat, and ginny who killed the roosters! It was Ginny who wrote the messages on the walls!" But the line was dubbed over and shortened due to the fact that two of the things mentioned were cut out of the story completley. It's funny but in COS almost all of the major scenes from the whole book were shot at some point (exept for the DD and Valantines days scenes). I think due to the simple nature of the story of COS, it's going to always be the most like the book of all of he movies, it was just easiest for anyone to adapt, which is a good thing.

[remusjlupin1980]

Did anyone else hit the slow-mo button during the Time Turner sequence when they were going back in time via backwards time-lapse photography?

[leverystrange]

Did anyone else hit the slow-mo button during the Time Turner sequence when they were going back in time via backwards time-lapse photography?


Was there something we should have seen? :huh: :huh: :huh:

[remusjlupin1980]

Just some interesting visuals like a kid being unwrapped from his bandages, Ron and Harry being brought into the hospital wing, etc.

[hawk1245]

Was there something we should have seen? :huh: :huh: :huh:

Actually, several scenes from the book can be spotted in that scene. You can see Snape talking to Fudge and Dumbledore at one point. You can also see Ron and Hermione and Harry being brought to the Hospital Wing, and Filch watching over the patients like a hawk, and other stuff.

[paloma]

The rooster thing was shot, but all of the scenes where it's mentions were cut out. On the cast interviews on the COS dvd you there is a bit where it shows the filming of the 'Pipes' scene, and Harry says as he is reading the paper "Spiders flee before it and the crowing of a rooster can kill it! Ron thats is, the monster in the chamber is a..." etc etc. Also, a deleted scene on the DVD shows Harry running into Hagrid before finding Justin and NHN, and Hagrid tells him that this is the second rooster killed that term, and he hold up the rooster that you later spotted in AD office. In the original script, Riddle said "Yes Harry it was Ginny weasley who opened the chamber of secrets. It was Ginny who set the basilisk on the Mudbluds and the squibs cat, and ginny who killed the roosters! It was Ginny who wrote the messages on the walls!" But the line was dubbed over and shortened due to the fact that two of the things mentioned were cut out of the story completley.
I think they should've left the bits about the roosters in, as it would've explained where Ginny got the blood. I saw CoS before reading the book, and was really confused by "whose" blood that was (I'd assumed it was human blood). It also seemed really odd to me when Hagrid came bursting into DD's office with a dead chicken!

But back to PoA...I wanted to examine Macnair's arms for the Dark Mark (yeah, I know it's too early for that, but I was curious anyway), so I paused the movie when he swings at the pumpkin, and saw that he has crow-shaped tattoos all over his forearms. Although I hate to use the word "pretty" in association with Macanir :scared: , the tattoos are really quite nice. It made me wonder if all those crows that follow him around were maybe be his...pets? Or something (I won't go as far as to suggest they were animagi).

Also, did anyone notice that the crock that Hermione breaks in Hagrid's cabin says "Staghorn's" on it? A nod to Prongs perhaps? :)

[aggiefan1206]

In PoA i noticed that in the scene where Dumbldore says something about dreams while all the students are sleeping in the great hall. If you look at the stars and and clouds on the great hall celing it is int he shape of a pheonix. I noticed it the other day. Its only for a few seconds where is shows a shot of the stars and stuff.

[silverglass19]

Does anyone notice Dan's one-eyed blinking? He does it less and less the more movies he makes. I don't know if anyone's responded yet (haven't finished reading through the posts) but I just wanted to say that YES I noticed this too! I think it's so cute, hehe. I pointed it out to my fellow HP-fanatics and they hadn't noticed it before.
You're right, though, he did it the most in PS and hardly does it at all in POA. Adorable Dan! haha. Must've been one of those 'ticks' that little kids have...like pronouncing R's and L's like W's. *shrug*

[ViviElessar]

In PoA i noticed that in the scene where Dumbldore says something about dreams while all the students are sleeping in the great hall. If you look at the stars and and clouds on the great hall celing it is int he shape of a pheonix. I noticed it the other day. Its only for a few seconds where is shows a shot of the stars and stuff.


Really? I haven't notice. I have to check that one out


I don't know if anyone's responded yet (haven't finished reading through the posts) but I just wanted to say that YES I noticed this too! I think it's so cute, hehe. I pointed it out to my fellow HP-fanatics and they hadn't noticed it before.



I noticed that too since SS/PS. He looked so cute. In PoA, I haven't notice if he does it

[silverglass19]

Dunno if anyone's mentioned this, but at the very end of POA when Harry goes to visit Lupin one last time, Lupin has a peculiar mark on his left cheek that looks very much like a triple wound made by something with talons. A souvenier from Buckbeak perhaps? If so, I like how they made the mark smaller on his human cheek, since his warewolf cheek was much bigger.

Also in POA, in the scene in the courtyard where Ron accuses Crookshanks of eating Scabbers (right before they go to talk to Hagrid about the hearing) Harry smiles and nods and two girls by the fountain. I think this is supposed to be Katie Bell and Alicia? I can't remember if it was the Alicia actress or the Angelina actress, but anyway, that's the only thing I could think of as to why Harry would smile/nod at a couple of girls, playah though he may be *wink wink*

Something I thought was funny that took me a while to notice:
In POA when Draco sends his note to Harry in DADA, you can see his signiture at the bottom of the picture...as if Harry wouldn't know who it was from! haha. It just seemed so Draco to 'sign his work' even though it was just a dumb line drawing. haha. Gave me a little ol' laugh, at least.

Yes, I've posted far too many times...and I'm still thinking! haha. Wait and then post all at once, you say?....NEVAH!! :)

Ooo...nice feature, there! It posted my new post IN my last post...as I'm sure it will do with this one as well...

Just to clarify, this one post actually has 3 different posts in it. I'm impressed :)

[Concernedhobbit]

I dunno if anyone's said this or not, but yesterday my friend mentioned to me that Hogwart's has a Room of Doom, and it's located on the marauder's map. Naturally skeptical, I checked it and sure enough it's there. Wonder what it's for....

[rowansjet]

On the back of the Daily Prophet that Stan Shunpike is reading, there's a large crossword.

In the book, when Mr and Mrs Weasley are arguing over telling Harry about Sirius Black, I think it's Mr Weasley who says that Sirius Black told Fudge he missed doing the crossword, when he was asking for the Daily Prophet. Or it may have been later, when Harry is eavesdropping in the Three Broomsticks, and fudge may have said it then.

[weasley]

It takinn me a few viewings of COS to notice that Lucius Malfoy was in the stands for Quidditch! Funny though as he's really easy to spot. Does anyone know why he was in Hogwarts at the time, let alone in the Quidditch stands?

[dirty_harry]

It takinn me a few viewings of COS to notice that Lucius Malfoy was in the stands for Quidditch! Funny though as he's really easy to spot. Does anyone know why he was in Hogwarts at the time, let alone in the Quidditch stands?

proably just to watch his sons fast quidditch match

i took me a couple of times to see the crow-shaped tattoos on Macnair's arm

[HarryLass]

Did anyone realize that they changed Flitwick for PoA? I assume that he's the leader of the Hogwarts Choir. If so, he had a brown mustache and he looks much younger than the other movies made him. You can see him clearly when Hagrid gets up during the beginning feast.

[Azshara]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but has anybody noticed that Hermione gets Buckbeak to get up by giving him dead ferrets? I was wondering if anybody else thought this might be foreshadowing of our beloved ferret, Draco, dying in a future book or if I was just being stupid. It may have just been a tribute to the next book.

[danzo66]

I dunno if anyone's said this or not, but yesterday my friend mentioned to me that Hogwart's has a Room of Doom, and it's located on the marauder's map. Naturally skeptical, I checked it and sure enough it's there. Wonder what it's for....

Do you have a screenshot of this Room of Doom? It sounds interesting.

[Blizzard]

I don't have a screenshot, but it can be seen clearly when harry is looking for peter pettigrew on the side of the screen.

[silverglass19]

Did anyone realize that they changed Flitwick for PoA? I assume that he's the leader of the Hogwarts Choir. If so, he had a brown mustache and he looks much younger than the other movies made him. You can see him clearly when Hagrid gets up during the beginning feast.

Yeah I noticed that right away. It's the same actor (Warwick Davis), but in the credits he's just listed as "Wizard" not as "Professor Flitwick". It's him in essence, though! hehe. They prolly could pay him less if they didn't give him a character-role *shrug* 'tis a shame.

[Cherub]

I don't know whether we are meant to stick to POA but I was watching PS last night and I notice a few things that I had never noticed before. I have watched the film loads of times but never actually properly seen the figure in the trees in the forest. It's the bit where the kids are doing detention and they are in the forest with Hagrid and the wind blows and Harry looks into the trees and I quite clearly saw the figure gliding through the trees. I haven't seen it before (don't know why) but I had guessed what was there and was really freaked out by it. Mainly because it would imply that Voldemort knew Harry was in the forest and could have attacked him at any time if he had wanted.

There was something else but I can't remember.

[ChoRadcliffe]

Dunno if anyone's mentioned this, but at the very end of POA when Harry goes to visit Lupin one last time, Lupin has a peculiar mark on his left cheek that looks very much like a triple wound made by something with talons. A souvenier from Buckbeak perhaps? If so, I like how they made the mark smaller on his human cheek, since his warewolf cheek was much bigger./quote]
The scars are from Lupin's brawl with Sirius after he transformed into a werewolf.

[quote]I dunno if anyone's said this or not, but yesterday my friend mentioned to me that Hogwart's has a Room of Doom, and it's located on the marauder's map. Naturally skeptical, I checked it and sure enough it's there. Wonder what it's for....
I noticed that too. I'm sure there was an explanation for it somewhere. Can't remember.

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Originally Posted by weasley
It takinn me a few viewings of COS to notice that Lucius Malfoy was in the stands for Quidditch! Funny though as he's really easy to spot. Does anyone know why he was in Hogwarts at the time, let alone in the Quidditch stands?

proably just to watch his sons fast quidditch match
But that wouldn't make sense because Gryffindor was playing Hufflepuff. I think they just stuck him in there just so we psychotic fans can spot little details like this. I'll have to check that out. Thanks.

[Machiavelli]

But that wouldn't make sense because Gryffindor was playing Hufflepuff. I think they just stuck him in there just so we psychotic fans can spot little details like this. I'll have to check that out. Thanks.No - it was for the Gryfindor vs Slytherin game where Harry got bludgered - Malfoy sr had donated new fabulous brooms to the Slytherin team so he was in the stands to watch them whallop Gryffindor... he hoped...

[hawk1245]

No - it was for the Gryfindor vs Slytherin game where Harry got bludgered - Malfoy sr had donated new fabulous brooms to the Slytherin team so he was in the stands to watch them whallop Gryffindor... he hoped...

Also note that it was Draco's very first quidditch match. Maybe dear old dad was just watching his son's first game.

[va32h]

I was just taking a look at the DVD to find some of the thing you all mentioned and I found that after the first visit to Hogsmeade, when the Fat Lady's portrait is slashed, Harry is holding either a Sneakoscope

It's a sneakoscope. One of the deleted scenes is of Ron & Hermione trying to downplay how much fun they had in Hogsmeade, and Ron gives Harry the sneakoscope. The dialogue from that scene is played while the students are walking up the stairs.

[cornish_pixies]

It took me around 14 viewings of PS to see what was actually written on the cake that Hagrid brings for Harry. I'm rather slow at noticing these kinds of things.

[Lovechild]

I didn't notice in PS and CoS how the director managed to put every single student of that year into every class - especially placing his daughter who plays Susan Bones in every scene, the one who blinks all the time..

[tarachristwen]

i didn't know about the lovegoods staying near ron's house till i read it recently... :p

[Allemande]

I was watching bits and pieces of CoS on CBC (Canadian channel) last night (not quite sure why, as I have the dvd and can watch it any old time I please.
Anyways, in the scene where Harry meets Tom Riddle and finds out he is Voldmort, it goes through a few flashbacks showing Ginny opening the chamber, writing the messages on the wall, etc.
I watched carefully when they showed her writing the message, and you could see that she was writing the word skeleton, so obviously this happened right before Riddle took her into the chamber
My question is, since she basically thought/knew she was going to die, shouldn't they have shown her crying, as she is doing in the book?

[TaraBrady]

That's a good point. I think they may have wanted to make it clearer that Ginny had no control over what she was doing. Having her crying as she wrote the words might have confused people who don't know the books, and made it look like it was Ginny herself doing it, rather than Riddle-Ginny; it would have required a few extra lines of dialogue from Tom to explain the scene more.

[SerafinaSnape]

Hmmm...I'm not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but last night when I was watching CoS, I noticed that when Draco is talking to the Polyjuiced Harry and Ron, he picks up a little green package, asks "Is this yours?" then puts it in his pocket for a minute then opens it. Whatever is inside isn't shown, but it seemed like there was a LOT of emphasis on showing Draco with the box, more than necessary if it was just a minor plot detail. This incident doesn't exist in the book, though. Perhaps whatever's in that box has significance somehow?

[Naitch]

Hmmm...I'm not sure if this was mentioned yet or not, but last night when I was watching CoS, I noticed that when Draco is talking to the Polyjuiced Harry and Ron, he picks up a little green package, asks "Is this yours?" then puts it in his pocket for a minute then opens it. Whatever is inside isn't shown, but it seemed like there was a LOT of emphasis on showing Draco with the box, more than necessary if it was just a minor plot detail. This incident doesn't exist in the book, though. Perhaps whatever's in that box has significance somehow?


They just did that to show hom big a jerk Draco was, nothing more.

[Blizzard]

They just did that to show hom big a jerk Draco was, nothing more.

Actually, I think it was so he would be distracted and not notice Ron & Harry turning back into themselves.

[SerafinaSnape]

That's what I thought at first, that it was either a distraction or to show us that Draco is a jerk, but it seemed way too over-emphasised for that. The camera followed his hand closely as he put it in his pocket, which happened long before Ron and Harry started to change. If they wanted to show him as a thief, it wouldn't have been necessary for the camera to be on the package for so long, he could have just slipped it into his pocket and that would have been the end of it.

[Sugabeen]

A friend just picked up a peculiar, seemingly inconsequential detail in PoA that I wanted to get people's views on.
When Sirius and Harry are being attacked by the dementors at the lake, they begin sucking something out of them (do we have an agreed idea of what this is, by the way?????)
The peculiarity is that in Sirius the "essence" is pulled in one "thread", but in Harry it appears to follow two distinct paths as it leaves him.
Does anyone have any ideas why....as it brought to mind the scene in Dumbledore's office (Book 5?) where he says "But in essence divided". I wondered if this might have been one of the spine tingling moments that Jo spoke of when she saw the film, as it could have happened by coincidence by the film makers, but hold a much deeper significance to the author.....!?