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Ornsby
October 27th, 2003, 9:49 pm
Did anyone notice that during the dueling scene as Snape drags Malfoy up off the stage floor you can see a cameraman kneeling down filming, on the far left side of the screen. I was amazed when I saw that!
Flobberworm
October 28th, 2003, 2:59 am
Hmmm, no, never noticed that. I can hardly ever spot some of these mistakes, even after hearing about them. :shrug: I'm blind when it comes to those kinds of things.
*runs off to look for the cameraman in the dueling scene*
jordmundt6
October 28th, 2003, 5:06 am
Here's one that I'm sure has been mentioned, but htis thread is loong already. In the first movie the entire month of August is collapsed into about five seconds. Hagrid takes him to the station on his birthday, July 31st and disappears and then Harry in the next two minutes is hunting for Platform 9 and 3/4. No, dragon-bite for Ron. No, daring dragon-smuggling for Harry and Hermione (already in book 1 they were doing little side missions on their own with Ron out of commission). No Neville either finding the entrance to security around the stone or in the Forbidden Forest, it's all trio. No "Midnight Duel" threat, the entire incident is a stairs mishap (give me a break). Neville basically got ripped out of all his scenes for reasons completely passing understanding. No mention of other Quidditch matches besides the Slytherin one. No flute.
These, of course are all from the first film.
daniel4hp
October 28th, 2003, 10:00 pm
In the first movie the entire month of August is collapsed into about five seconds. Hagrid takes him to the station on his birthday, July 31st and disappears and then Harry in the next two minutes is hunting for Platform 9 and 3/4.
I can understand why they did this -- it speeded things up considerably to simply go from Diagon Alley to the train station. However, it is a bit corny. I have nothing against removing the month of August, but the way it was done implied that it did not even happen, as opposed to simply jumping over it, which I think would have been better. But still, it did help things flow.
No, dragon-bite for Ron. No, daring dragon-smuggling for Harry and Hermione (already in book 1 they were doing little side missions on their own with Ron out of commission).
This is not a mistake in any shape or form, and I am always mildy annoyed when people use the term "mistake" to apply to changes that are made. I am not speaking just about you; its a common misconception. A mistake would be, say, a cameraman's shadow in a scene. Something like what you mentioned is just something you have to cut for the sake of time. Face it, you can't include everything, and the fact that they chose to cut a couple of things does not, in and of itself, make the movie bad.
No Neville either finding the entrance to security around the stone or in the Forbidden Forest, it's all trio. No "Midnight Duel" threat, the entire incident is a stairs mishap (give me a break). Neville basically got ripped out of all his scenes for reasons completely passing understanding.
The focus on the trio is understandable, albeit a bad choice. The logic was that it would confuse people if you had to much of other characters. Thus, other characters were there in supporting roles, but Kloves was probalbly concerned that if he gave them to much of a role, especially in the plot, it would get to confusing. However, while I agree that you have to be careful not to confuse the audience, I do not think that Neville's role needed to be destroyed. If anything, he needed a more serious role than in the books. The movies turned him into comic relief, which I find disappointing.
No mention of other Quidditch matches besides the Slytherin one. No flute.
I can't believe they cut the flute. I mean, that was so important to the plot. That choice really ruined the movie.
Okay, I'm being sarcastic, if you can't tell, but I hope you get the idea. Its a minor thing. So is the Quidditch matches being cut. As I said above, some things have to be cut, and these were some of them. You can't have everything; I would advise not getting worked up over minor changes that have no bearing on the story.
jordmundt6
October 30th, 2003, 4:52 am
I could have accepted Harry still thinking about Hagrid as Vernon is saying "Hurry up boy, gotta get to Dudleys appointment at Hospital by 11:30--you're lucky we're doing this" or something to show that it wasn't the same freakin' day. Yes, it was a change, but I think the change itself was a BIG MISTAKE. It made McGonagall's throwing the book at the Trio (again, Ron should be in the Hospital Wing but no--gotta be the trio) seem totally ridiculous. They were out for a walk, it wasn't sundown, they were supervised, and they weren't out of bounds. What rule did they break, exactly? And Malfoy did the "responsible" thing. Nothing about her reaction to their actions makes sense. What they actually did in the book was a much bigger infraction and looked even worse because it looked like they were trying to lure Malfoy AND Neville out of bounds. There, I understand her reaction. In the movie, nope. Not even close. The deletion of Peeves could really pose some plothole problems later one and cut down on the overall flavor of HP in the films. And after all the moron cuts they made, for Kloves and Columbus to decide that Flitwick's enchantment was "too simple" and to put their discussion basically INTO the script was ridiculous.
Oh, explain to me again please why Ron has to be totally comic relief in every scene except the chess match? I'd love to hear that justification. Hermione doesn't panic in the Devil's Snare at all and Ron totally loses his head? They turned the scene on its ear and what was funny in the book became unbearable onscreen. That's it for now.
Edit--And your telling me they can't add ten seconds at a dinner conversation where Ron or the twins or ANY Gryffindor says--"Great job, Harry. I still can't believe how we massacred Hufflepuff in five minutes. And with Snape reffing no less."
hawk1245
November 18th, 2003, 1:33 am
Who in the HECK said that it was the smaw day? LOL! They probably stayed at TLC 'till September, is THAT worthy of screentime? WHERE in the WHOLE frikken movie does it say that August never happened? They just didn't show it! Jeez!
jordmundt6
November 18th, 2003, 2:12 am
It's the same day! He gets his school supplies and they have the discussion about everyone expecting great things from him and it's because of something he can't even remember..blah, blah, blah. And then Hagrid drops him at King's Cross and he suddenly has to find Platform 9 and 3/4. There should have been an allusion like Harry looking at his ticket and then maybe Vernon's voice as he gripes about having to do all this to indicate that the month of August has actually passed and Harry has spent it at #4 Privet Drive. They collapsed July 31st and September 1st into one another. And staying at the Leaky Cauldron for a month is even more problematic.
HollywoodBob
November 18th, 2003, 3:14 am
Well it can't possibly be the same day. Too much goes on for Hagrid to have picked him up and they to have gotten all of his things before 11:00am. Especially since they are shown having dinner.
It's implied that time goes by, and yes they should have included Harry asking Uncle Vernon to take him to Kings Cross, but we all know that's what happened, so the implication is enough.
-HollywoodBob
hawk1245
November 18th, 2003, 3:28 am
Just because it cuts after that dosn't mean it is imidiatley after that scne! A fad ussually is the editors way of saying time goes by. Where is the EVIDENCE? Some of you guys just love to pick on CC and Co
jordmundt6
November 18th, 2003, 3:35 am
It's easy to pick on sloppy direction and editing. But there wasn't a fade. I don't think you understand. There was NO FADE. I could have accepted that, but it wasn't there. Goodbye Harry and good luck. Harry turns around and he's looking for platform 9 and 3/4. There was no fade or swoosh in. They wouldn't have even needed a fade, maybe just a quick sound effect. Gah!
DracoXMalfoy
December 7th, 2003, 10:27 pm
I thought the mistakes were funny..Maybe it was just me..But it is interesting when you see the Harry Potter book set in the window of that shop in Knockturn alley..
hawk1245
December 10th, 2003, 10:39 pm
Sorry to dissapoint you, but I zoomed in on those books, and even though they look like the English HP books at first glance, they are just a bunch of Lockhart's books, sorry. That one is false.
hawk1245
December 10th, 2003, 10:45 pm
Alright listen! Hagrid says "Yopu are the boy who lived", then it FADES to Kings Cross. The time period from the conversation at The Leaky Caulddron to the time of Hagrid dropping Harry off is not specified, so it could have been a month later. It dosn't say antwhere that the day Hagrid dropped was in JULY! Why do you assume otherwise?
hawk1245
December 12th, 2003, 4:27 pm
I swear, people love to pick on the movies, at least have a REAL mistake.
They have dinner, supposedly in January, in TLC , then it FADES to the trains stations. Between the conversation and the fade, any number of days or weeks could have passed. See? He gives him the ticket the day he leaves on the train, no mistake. Its just a movie book change.
hawk1245
December 12th, 2003, 4:31 pm
Sorry, I meant July, not January. My mistake.
daniel4hp
December 12th, 2003, 9:29 pm
Hawk: If you wish to add to or modify something you say, please use the "edit" function rather than double-posting. Thanks!
Azimuth
December 14th, 2003, 3:06 pm
Sorry to dissapoint you, but I zoomed in on those books, and even though they look like the English HP books at first glance, they are just a bunch of Lockhart's books, sorry. That one is false.
Could you tell me the exact time that the books appear? Because I can't seem to find them. Thanks.
hawk1245
December 14th, 2003, 8:07 pm
The books apear right as Harry and Hagrid leave Nocturn Alley and Hagrid says "Yer a mess Harry, scukin 'round Knockturn Alley..."etc etc. They are on display in the window of the giftshoppe to the left of Harry and Hagrid. Another interesing thing I spotted. If you continue to watch the scene, Mr Fotesque(sp?) makes a cameo dilivering Ice Cream to a couple of people at his Parlour. It is the shope to the left of the one with the books in it. Happy zooming!
Azimuth
December 14th, 2003, 8:22 pm
The books apear right as Harry and Hagrid leave Nocturn Alley and Hagrid says "Yer a mess Harry, scukin 'round Knockturn Alley..."etc etc. They are on display in the window of the giftshoppe to the left of Harry and Hagrid.
Thanks, with your help I was able to find them. Those are definitely not the Harry Potter books, but I can sort of see why people thought that they were.
Another interesing thing I spotted. If you continue to watch the scene, Mr Fotesque(sp?) makes a cameo dilivering Ice Cream to a couple of people at his Parlour.
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Zachary1993
January 1st, 2004, 8:23 am
Okay, there's already a thread about Lucius apparently using the Avada Kadavra...in spite of the fact that it would have sent him to Azkaban for life, and he could hardly use the Imperious curse as an excuse this time....
And da da da da da86 pointed out that Lockhart didn't lose his wand at Snape's Expelliarmus.
But how about that remark Lucius made to Arthur Weasely--"See you at work." Since when did Lucius work at the Ministry? (Or at all. :p I always pegged him as the idle rich.)
Anyone else?
HE did not use the curse he was stopped before he got to use it so that is why he dd not go to Askaban because Harry did not know what it was and no one else was around.
First movie. In book one Neville was supposed to be in the Forbidden Forest instead of Hermonie. They messed up on that one. THe first years are wearing house badges without being sorted.
Alorra Spinnet
January 1st, 2004, 12:49 pm
HE did not use the curse he was stopped before he got to use it so that is why he dd not go to Askaban because Harry did not know what it was and no one else was around.
First movie. In book one Neville was supposed to be in the Forbidden Forest instead of Hermonie. They messed up on that one. THe first years are wearing house badges without being sorted.
Actually, Hermione was supposed to be there. It was Ron who replaced Neville.
daniel4hp
January 1st, 2004, 7:21 pm
However, the fact that Ron replaced Neville is not a mistake. Certainly its a change, but they didn't "mess up." Its not like they were planning to put Neville there, but somehow they got confused and accidently put Ron in instead. They obviously made the change because it fit an alteration they made in the plot and emphesized the idea of the trio. It was both fully intentional and made sense from a script POV.
hawk1245
January 1st, 2004, 7:32 pm
Oy! They didn't get confused! That is not a mistake! When you make a book into a film you HAVE to change some things. What is so important about Neville being with Fluffy or the Forest scenes? You hardly see Neville, argo he isn't that imoprtant in THIS film, in THAT scene, Ron on the other hand, is someone you know, so it makes for less confusion. People who haven't read the books don't know as much about all the different characters as we, the ones who HAVE read them, so the film makers HAVE to simplify it a bit. And watch the film again please, they do NOT have the house badges on before being sorted. They have a hogwarts multi-house crest and a plain black tie. The hous elve bring the rest up to the boys dormatory later. Percy says "You will find that all you belongings have already been brought up". No mistake, please get your facts straight before posting something.
Azimuth
January 11th, 2004, 6:07 pm
I don't believe it...
On www.moviemistakes.com, there are already 3 mistakes listed for PoA! Just from the trailer! If there are that many in the trailer, just think how many people will find in the actual movie!
dobbypotter
January 11th, 2004, 7:55 pm
Well I was just thinking :wow: , how did hermione's parents get through the the wall in the pub?? :eyebrows: I thought only wizards and witches could :grumble: , not muggles~! :D Is it just that if they know how to get through they can. {which leads to another thing, how did hermione find out how to get through??}
SOMEONE please answer this :rolleyes:
(sorry earlier I hadn't clearly stated what i meant so i edited this)
Azimuth
January 11th, 2004, 8:23 pm
Well I was just thinking :wow: , how did hermione's parents get through the barrier?? :eyebrows: I thought only wizards and witches could :grumble: , not muggles~! :D
SOMEONE please answer this :rolleyes:
The barrier to Platform 9 3/4? They don't. Harry didn't manage to get through the barrier in CoS, so we don't see the platform, thus there are no shots of Hermione's parents on the platform.
Rowlingfan1
January 11th, 2004, 8:46 pm
At the movie mistakes site, that's not a skeleton, it's a cabinet/door frame!
Azimuth
January 11th, 2004, 9:04 pm
At the movie mistakes site, that's not a skeleton, it's a cabinet/door frame!
LOL! I think you're right there, Rowlingfan1. Does sort of look like a mummy-like figure, though. I doubt they'd be careless enough to make a glaring mistake like that.
daniel4hp
January 11th, 2004, 9:25 pm
The idea was that the skeleton would be replaced by a dementor. But why the heck would they film with a skeleton? Wouldn't a ball on a stick or something be a lot easier?
Cat
January 11th, 2004, 9:43 pm
I don't believe it...
On www.moviemistakes.com, there are already 3 mistakes listed for PoA! Just from the trailer! If there are that many in the trailer, just think how many people will find in the actual movie!
The amount of mistakes people find doesn't always coincide without the amount of mistakes there actually are.
I still don't see this 'skeleton'. All I can see is background walls and furnishings.
hawk1245
January 12th, 2004, 2:14 am
I noticed that in the shot of the trio behind Hagrid hut, they obviously haden't finishe d the effects shots by the time that shot was released on the trailers. Hogwarts has YET to be composited into the backround, but it will be there eventually.
Orlandolover
March 4th, 2004, 10:36 am
Hey
I`am a real big fan of Harry Potter but I saw a mistake in the second movie
when Harry try`d to catch the snitch and broke his arm then he was hanging down and he held his broomstick with his broken arm
Well that is all bye
Greetz Orlandolover
hawk1245
March 4th, 2004, 7:31 pm
There are several scenes in PS/SS where you can see Rupert Grints double. Oddly enough, he looks almost exactly like Rupert does in POA! It would take too long for me to explain this, but when Lucious gets up from being blasted by Dobby, you see mountains in the backround. Now I made a nearly perfect map of Hogwarts and I know where Dubledore's office is, and from that angle you would NOT be able to see mountains. Also, the courtyard shown in that scene isn't as tall as it should be. Watch the shot right after the diary, when the camera zooms over Hogwarts, and you will see a court yard with a cross shaped pattern on it, that is it. See how tall it is?
paloma
March 20th, 2004, 11:30 pm
What always drove me nuts in PS/SS is that Snape mispronounces "wolfsbane". (He called it "wolfbane".) I was so surprised that no-one caught that during production. Or I figured if they did catch it, maybe they thought the mistake was too inconsequential to correct.
However, now knowing the importance of wolfsbane in the series, I'm really amazed they let it slide. I hope they get it right in PoA!
hawk1245
March 21st, 2004, 12:03 am
What always drove me nuts in PS/SS is that Snape mispronounces "wolfsbane". (He called it "wolfbane".) I was so surprised that no-one caught that during production. Or I figured if they did catch it, maybe they thought the mistake was too inconsequential to correct.
However, now knowing the importance of wolfsbane in the series, I'm really amazed they let it slide. I hope they get it right in PoA!
In my copy he says the "s" in it. And on the extended scene he says it quite clearly, but I may be wrong. It DOES sound like the S is gone when he first asks the question, but put your ear close to the TV and you can tell that it is indeed there. Anyway...Heres one I noticed. For the Whomping Willow scene in COS they put the miniatures far way so that you couldn'y tell they were small. This works most of the time. But right when Rons yells "The car!' when it wanders off, you can see that the supposedly 50 foot wall is as tall (if not shorter) than Harry and Ron! It is the above shot of them. I crack up at that.
Kathleen
March 31st, 2004, 10:53 am
I always wondered how Hermione knew what a mudblood was, seeing as her parent are muggles. I know she could have been told about it, but its not like she grew up hearing about what a horrible thing it was. In my opinion, she wouldn't have been too upset by it.
Also, I don't think this is really a mistake. At the end of POA, Snape isn't informed about how Sirius escaped and the fact that he is innocent. Dumbledore lies to him. But in OOP, he knows about it. Are we just to presume he was told inbetween?
On a side note, Ron, Harry and Hermione don't tell Hagrid about them rescuing Sirius and the fact that he is innocent. Why not? Is't he in the order?
hawk1245
March 31st, 2004, 7:30 pm
I always wondered how Hermione knew what a mudblood was, seeing as her parent are muggles. I know she could have been told about it, but its not like she grew up hearing about what a horrible thing it was. In my opinion, she wouldn't have been too upset by it.
Also, I don't think this is really a mistake. At the end of POA, Snape isn't informed about how Sirius escaped and the fact that he is innocent. Dumbledore lies to him. But in OOP, he knows about it. Are we just to presume he was told inbetween?
On a side note, Ron, Harry and Hermione don't tell Hagrid about them rescuing Sirius and the fact that he is innocent. Why not? Is't he in the order?
Well, first off remember that this is a MOVIE MISTAKES topic, not book mistakes topic, but I will answer the questions. I am sure that Snape was smart enought to fill in the blank about Sirius when he asks Dumbledore "surley you don't believe this fairy tale?" and then a year later Dumbledore asks them to work together, so I think he figured it out. And the trio didn't tell Hagrid about Buckbeak cause they didn't KNOW about the Order yet, and they couldn't spread the word yet. I bet ya, Dumbledore told him durning the summer anyway. As for the mudblood thing, sh could't have read it in a book and knew what it meant, and maybe heard about how horrible an insult it was, or even saw a friend be called that. It is debatable, sure. There is no diffinative asnwer, really a matter of opinion.
hawk1245
March 31st, 2004, 8:50 pm
It's not a very huge mistake just on the actresses's part. I haven't seen this one anywhere but from watching it a dozen times I caught it. They are at the Zoo and Dudley falls into the water. Petunia and Vernon Dursley run over and then vernon talks to Harry, In th background instead of her saying "Dudley, Dudley!" she instead says: "Dursley Dursley" I dunno maybe they call eachother by their last names? But I think she just got Dursley and Dudley mixed up.
She says "Is there snake? Is there a snake?"
thatjuliekid
April 6th, 2004, 7:39 pm
i personally think that u shouldn't point out movie mistakes. i'd like to see u try and make a better movie!
Kathleen
April 8th, 2004, 12:09 pm
We aren't making fun, its just amusing to watch out for them the next time you see the film.
NYYGirl13
April 8th, 2004, 4:22 pm
Maybe this was put in before, but in Movie 2, when harry was stabbing tom riddle's diary, he was stabbing it with his left hand. then, a couple of shots later, he closed the book with HIS LEFT HAND. then he stabbed the closed book with his left hand. It's a blooper.
HermioneGranger1
April 28th, 2004, 5:43 am
I have found a mistake on the books & movies (i dont know if someone have post this)....can you explain me how...Hermione in 1rst year repair Harry's glasses without reciving a message from the Ministry Of Magic???...
without reciving a notice if they arent allowed?? ??? :huh:
DrummerboyDT
April 28th, 2004, 6:32 am
I have found a mistake on the books & movies (i dont know if someone have post this)....can you explain me how...Hermione in 1rst year repair Harry's glasses without reciving a message from the Ministry Of Magic???...
without reciving a notice if they arent allowed?? ??? :huh:
They were in the realm of the magic world. Harry got in trouble because he used magic outside of the magic world.
Pumpkin Juice
April 28th, 2004, 6:53 am
Okay, there's already a thread about Lucius apparently using the Avada Kadavra...in spite of the fact that it would have sent him to Azkaban for life, and he could hardly use the Imperious curse as an excuse this time....
I can think of two things...
1. He thought he could get away with it.
2. Dementors are loyal first and foremost to Voldemort. If Lucius managed to kill Harry, Voldemort's return would probably come soon enough and Lucius would get out.
BTW - do wizards not have a death penalty? Why wouldn't murdering someone constitute for a death sentence instead?
And da da da da da86 pointed out that Lockhart didn't lose his wand at Snape's Expelliarmus.
Actually, he did lose his wand, but then it was magically in his hand again. Hmmm... must be a trick wand, that's why none of his spells work right. :p
And, can someone tell me: Why has Draco become such a kleptomaniac? First, he randomly rips a page out of a book in Flourish and Blott's, and then he takes that little green gift off of a desk in the Slytherin Common Room (which looked pretty darn cool, if you ask me.)
The green box didn't bother me as much as the page out of the book did. At least the gift was found in the Slytherin common room. The page, however, was out of a book in a book store that you would have to pay. I think perhaps Chris Columbus was trying to set up how evil this kid is because he didn't do a very good job of it in the first movie. When I saw the first movie, I thought Draco was annoying, but nothing really horrible. The second film changed that perception for me. I don't think that having him steal was necessary though to establish that. Draco did that very well when he called Hermione a mudblood.
Also this is a mistake in the filming, not a book vs movie mistake. When Harry and Ron crash into the barrier leading to Platform 9 3/4, Hedwig's cage pops open right after Harry hits, the camera goes to a different angle and suddenly the cage is closed.
I've noticed this before too.
Slytherins don't have Herbology with Gryffindors. Gryffindors have it with Hufflepuffs.
Given that so much gets cut from book to movie, I think it was a good decision. Draco is a key character who needs to be seen more in the film. There really aren't any Hufflepuffs or Ravenclaws yet who are prominent.
Another mistake was Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts, which is against the law.
That's really not so bad as making no mention of Harry getting in trouble for Dobby's little stunt. So they've clearly established a difference here between book and movie - it's okay to use magic outside of school in the film. I would imagine in Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry runs away simply because he's angry or scared or both, it'll never be brought up that he's afraid of wizarding officials coming to break his wand and kick him out of Hogwarts. When Harry finally meets Fudge, it won't be a part of the conversation at all - since even in the book that wasn't the reason he was trying to find Harry.
Here are things I've noticed (besides what I've quoted) for Chamber of Secrets...
1. In the Weasley's house, the kniting doing itself is not kniting anything.
2. When Lockhart falls in, we hear him hit bottom almost immediately. But when Harry and Ron jump in, they seem to take longer. Indeed, when Fawkes is leading them up, they're in a very deep chasm of some sort, so Lockhart couldn't possibly have hit bottom so fast.
3. The Weasley clock - it only told the correct location of Ron, Fred and George.
4. If I remember correctly, the whomping willow smashed in the top of the car, denting it, later it was back to normal.
5. In the forest, Ron asks Harry if he knows any spells. Harry says one, but it's not enough for all of them. That spell is the expelliarmus spell. However, when they were in the Defense Against the Dark Arts class where Lockhart released the pixies, Hermione used an immobulus spell. Surely that spell would have worked as well and perhaps even better.
6. If I remember correctly, the sink that didn't work when Harry went to check it out after talking to Myrtle was actually running when Myrtle was flooding the bathroom earlier.
7. It's obvious that the Flourish and Blotts scene was filmed towards the end of filming because Draco's voice was deeper than it was later at Hogwarts. For that reason, it would have made sense for them to get Tom Felton into a sound studio to reread all his lines as Draco so they could voice them over his character.
Dedalus
April 28th, 2004, 12:08 pm
I have found a mistake on the books & movies (i dont know if someone have post this)....can you explain me how...Hermione in 1rst year repair Harry's glasses without reciving a message from the Ministry Of Magic???...
without reciving a notice if they arent allowed?? ??? :huh:
That never actually happened in the book (Hermione fixing Harry's glasses in the first year), but doing magic on the Hogwarts Express is allowed. That's counted as term time. Term starts the journey there, and ends the journey home.
You're also allowed to do magic before you start at Hogwarts, because you're too young to know better and haven't even learned to control it yet. And, of course, some wouldn't even be aware until they start at Hogwarts!
The mistake was in the second film when Hermione fixed Harry's glasses in Diagon Alley. That would be against the rules. It doesn't happen in the book, though. But being in a magical environment isn't an excuse for it, I don't think, because Muggles seeing magic isn't the problem - it's that school children are untrained wizards and doing magic out of school is probably a very dangerous thing.
HermioneGranger1
April 28th, 2004, 6:12 pm
Thanks to DrummerboyDT & Dedalus for answering my question...now I understand Tnks!!! :D :)
icecubecat14
May 9th, 2004, 6:22 am
I can think of two things...
1. He thought he could get away with it.
2. Dementors are loyal first and foremost to Voldemort. If Lucius managed to kill Harry, Voldemort's return would probably come soon enough and Lucius would get out.
BTW - do wizards not have a death penalty? Why wouldn't murdering someone constitute for a death sentence instead?
Actually, he did lose his wand, but then it was magically in his hand again. Hmmm... must be a trick wand, that's why none of his spells work right. :p
The green box didn't bother me as much as the page out of the book did. At least the gift was found in the Slytherin common room. The page, however, was out of a book in a book store that you would have to pay. I think perhaps Chris Columbus was trying to set up how evil this kid is because he didn't do a very good job of it in the first movie. When I saw the first movie, I thought Draco was annoying, but nothing really horrible. The second film changed that perception for me. I don't think that having him steal was necessary though to establish that. Draco did that very well when he called Hermione a mudblood.
I've noticed this before too.
Given that so much gets cut from book to movie, I think it was a good decision. Draco is a key character who needs to be seen more in the film. There really aren't any Hufflepuffs or Ravenclaws yet who are prominent.
That's really not so bad as making no mention of Harry getting in trouble for Dobby's little stunt. So they've clearly established a difference here between book and movie - it's okay to use magic outside of school in the film. I would imagine in Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry runs away simply because he's angry or scared or both, it'll never be brought up that he's afraid of wizarding officials coming to break his wand and kick him out of Hogwarts. When Harry finally meets Fudge, it won't be a part of the conversation at all - since even in the book that wasn't the reason he was trying to find Harry.
Here are things I've noticed (besides what I've quoted) for Chamber of Secrets...
1. In the Weasley's house, the kniting doing itself is not kniting anything.
2. When Lockhart falls in, we hear him hit bottom almost immediately. But when Harry and Ron jump in, they seem to take longer. Indeed, when Fawkes is leading them up, they're in a very deep chasm of some sort, so Lockhart couldn't possibly have hit bottom so fast.
3. The Weasley clock - it only told the correct location of Ron, Fred and George.
4. If I remember correctly, the whomping willow smashed in the top of the car, denting it, later it was back to normal.
5. In the forest, Ron asks Harry if he knows any spells. Harry says one, but it's not enough for all of them. That spell is the expelliarmus spell. However, when they were in the Defense Against the Dark Arts class where Lockhart released the pixies, Hermione used an immobulus spell. Surely that spell would have worked as well and perhaps even better.
6. If I remember correctly, the sink that didn't work when Harry went to check it out after talking to Myrtle was actually running when Myrtle was flooding the bathroom earlier.
7. It's obvious that the Flourish and Blotts scene was filmed towards the end of filming because Draco's voice was deeper than it was later at Hogwarts. For that reason, it would have made sense for them to get Tom Felton into a sound studio to reread all his lines as Draco so they could voice them over his character.
3. Because harry's not a weasley
Azimuth
May 9th, 2004, 7:38 pm
5. In the forest, Ron asks Harry if he knows any spells. Harry says one, but it's not enough for all of them. That spell is the expelliarmus spell. However, when they were in the Defense Against the Dark Arts class where Lockhart released the pixies, Hermione used an immobulus spell. Surely that spell would have worked as well and perhaps even better.
That isn't a mistake. Maybe Harry can't do the immobulus spell? Or maybe he forgot about it?
jenniweasley
May 16th, 2004, 11:54 pm
what gets me is that in the movie and the book "Diagon Alley" we are told constantly can not be entered by muggles BUT in the second move/book Hermiones parents are in it talking to mr weasley (malfoy makes a sny remark too )????
Dedalus
May 17th, 2004, 1:36 am
what gets me is that in the movie and the book "Diagon Alley" we are told constantly can not be entered by muggles BUT in the second move/book Hermiones parents are in it talking to mr weasley (malfoy makes a sny remark too )????
Well there's nothing specifically stopping them except that they can't see the pub to know to go round the back, and they won't know how to open the doorway into the alley. Muggle friends and relatives of witches or wizards can be perfectly capable of going to Diagon Alley if a witch or wizard guides them in. There's nothing other than that stopping them.
Prule84
May 17th, 2004, 1:54 am
Biggest blooper/mistake/cut was PEEVES!
Where is Peeves!? I know they had him cast for the first two movies. Jo even said that he would play a part in the end (interview around the time of GOF)
Any explanations here?
jenniweasley
May 18th, 2004, 9:51 am
yes but in the 4rth book they say "there are magical places that muggles can pennentrate but imagine fitting everyone into diagon alley*** referring to the world cup.......... so basically ^^^^^ that implys muggles cant go in there and then her parents would remember something urgent or whuthave u right:S?
Dedalus
May 18th, 2004, 11:21 am
yes but in the 4rth book they say "there are magical places that muggles can pennentrate but imagine fitting everyone into diagon alley*** referring to the world cup.......... so basically ^^^^^ that implys muggles cant go in there and then her parents would remember something urgent or whuthave u right:S?
Muggles can't go there - normally. I think it'd be weird to have all those protections against seeing the place, if Muggles wouldn't get in either way. They have the pub and the doorway (which you can only open with a wand anyway!). It never says it has a Muggle repelling charm on it, only those, which can be got about by a Muggle visiting with a witch or wizard - which you can assume is okay ;)
hawk1245
May 18th, 2004, 5:50 pm
This one is only for continuity buffs like me. In both PS/SS and POA the students wear muggle clothes during the holidays, but in COS all the sudden they all want to wear their robes twenty four seven. I guess this had to be done in order for the whole Crabbe and Goyle thing to work though, but it's kind of funny in my opinion. Also, during quidditch in PS, right before 0Olover blocks his first goal, you see a quidditch player zoom towards the chaser, if you pause it it is none other than Harry, but a second later we see that he has been standing still the whole time, LOL.
RemusLupinFan
June 1st, 2004, 6:32 pm
The one mistake in CoS that gets me is the fact that Harry and Ron still sound like themselves after they take the Polyjuice Potion. They are supposed to be exactly like whoever they are trying to turn into, voice and all. I think Draco should have been able to tell that Crabb and Goyle's voices were different (especially since he hangs around with them all the time). The reason this bothers me is because I am thinking about GoF: Crouch is supposed to impersonate Mad-Eye Moody using the Polyjuice Potion. I would find it hard to believe that anyone would be fooled if the Polyjuice Potion didn't alter the drinker's voice. That's just my 2 knuts worth.
Marius
June 2nd, 2004, 7:57 pm
Another mistake was Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts, which is against the law.
They can do magic out of Hogwarts, where is just wizard, no "Moldu" <---- doesn't remember in English... the no-wizard.
hawk1245
June 2nd, 2004, 9:24 pm
The one mistake in CoS that gets me is the fact that Harry and Ron still sound like themselves after they take the Polyjuice Potion. They are supposed to be exactly like whoever they are trying to turn into, voice and all. I think Draco should have been able to tell that Crabb and Goyle's voices were different (especially since he hangs around with them all the time). The reason this bothers me is because I am thinking about GoF: Crouch is supposed to impersonate Mad-Eye Moody using the Polyjuice Potion. I would find it hard to believe that anyone would be fooled if the Polyjuice Potion didn't alter the drinker's voice. That's just my 2 knuts worth.
Okay, for the LAST TIME! This thread is for MOVIE mistakes, not changes from the books!!! Those aren't mistakes, will evry one PLEASE remember that? Also, there are probably MANY different kinds of polyjuice potion, maybe the one Crouch takes is a much more advanced version, and the trio aren't exactly master potion mixers, even Hermione can make mistakes.
Marius
June 3rd, 2004, 3:46 pm
The one mistake in CoS that gets me is the fact that Harry and Ron still sound like themselves after they take the Polyjuice Potion. They are supposed to be exactly like whoever they are trying to turn into, voice and all. I think Draco should have been able to tell that Crabb and Goyle's voices were different (especially since he hangs around with them all the time). The reason this bothers me is because I am thinking about GoF: Crouch is supposed to impersonate Mad-Eye Moody using the Polyjuice Potion. I would find it hard to believe that anyone would be fooled if the Polyjuice Potion didn't alter the drinker's voice. That's just my 2 knuts worth.
Hawk1245 absolutely right, do not mix the books and the movies. In the book CoS the voice's change too! All change !
Here's only for the movie, the movie is based ON the book.
:evil:
RemusLupinFan
June 3rd, 2004, 4:05 pm
You're right- I'm really sorry :sad:. Disregard my earlier post please.
Azimuth
June 3rd, 2004, 5:58 pm
I noticed a mistake in PoA:
When Hagrid is skimming the stones across the water, talking to Hermione, he finally reveals that Buckbeak is to be executed. Upon saying this, he throws a stone into the water instead of skimming it, and you can hear a huge splash - when the camera zooms out and shows Hagrid standing in the water, there are no ripples from the stone.
Fee
June 4th, 2004, 4:52 pm
Sorry if it's been mentions before, but Dumbledore says that the kids are 13 in this movie... shouldn't they be 14? I probably have my maths wrong, but they begin Hogwarts aged 12, correct? Hmm... :huh:
rhtruluv
June 4th, 2004, 4:55 pm
no 11 coz in the 1st film hagrid say "Its not everyday you young lad turns 11 now does it"
socalsinger
June 5th, 2004, 7:53 am
Did anybody else find it odd that in PoA, Draco was followed by Crabbe and some skinny kid more than Crabbe and Goyle, it seemed odd. The kid who played Goyle was in other scenes why not all of them?
no1 potter fan
August 5th, 2004, 10:41 am
In the bookes Harry's eyes are green but in the movie they are blue. I am picky :p
Sorry if it's been mentions before, but Dumbledore says that the kids are 13 in this movie... shouldn't they be 14? I probably have my maths wrong, but they begin Hogwarts aged 12, correct? Hmm... :huh:
in first year you should be 11-12
in the second year you should be 12-13
in the third year you should be 13-14
fourth year 14-15
fith year 15-16
sixth year 16-15
seventh year 16-17
I noticed a mistake in PoA:
When Hagrid is skimming the stones across the water, talking to Hermione, he finally reveals that Buckbeak is to be executed. Upon saying this, he throws a stone into the water instead of skimming it, and you can hear a huge splash - when the camera zooms out and shows Hagrid standing in the water, there are no ripples from the stone.
The directer probably said cut and told them what they did wrong and by the time he had finished the riples had gone.
I noticed another mistake in PoA in the werewolf scene i think it was in the forest you can hear the director whisper "Emma"
also Harry was doing magic in his room whigh is a muggle inviroment Hermione was aloud to do magic in diagon alley because that is a wizard inviromennt.
Camsin
August 5th, 2004, 1:16 pm
in poa quidditch the snitch flies out of the pitch - the snitch is bewitched to stay in. you see dumbledore look behind the stands.
Magical_Me
August 5th, 2004, 1:21 pm
Technically that would be a book mistake. Besides, the barrier is probably bigger than the confinements of the stands. Also, Quidditch would be awfully boring if you had to stay in those areas.
DragonBlk17
August 5th, 2004, 1:23 pm
In the bookes Harry's eyes are green but in the movie they are blue. I am picky :p
in first year you should be 11-12
in the second year you should be 12-13
in the third year you should be 13-14
fourth year 14-15
fith year 15-16
sixth year 16-15
seventh year 16-17
The directer probably said cut and told them what they did wrong and by the time he had finished the riples had gone.
I noticed another mistake in PoA in the werewolf scene i think it was in the forest you can hear the director whisper "Emma"
also Harry was doing magic in his room whigh is a muggle inviroment Hermione was aloud to do magic in diagon alley because that is a wizard inviromennt.
I noticed that too. I was wondering why Harry was able to cast the Lumos spell in his room.
Ms_Ravenclaw
August 5th, 2004, 6:22 pm
Oh, I didn't look through all the posts (there are so many!) but in the Chamber of secrets...when Harry is first walking down the chamber halls toward that big stone head thing where the Basilisk comes out, if you look at the puddles on the floor, you'll notice the studio lights reflected in them. I laughed my head off when I noticed that. They totally forgot to edit out the reflections. Now, I saw this from the interactive chamber game on the second disk of the DVD...I can't remember if the actual movie has that mistake...but check it out!
GodricHollow
August 8th, 2004, 2:11 pm
I think Wizards are allowed to do magic to do their homework, because Harry was doing HoM HWK when he was doing Lumos.
Dedalus
August 8th, 2004, 2:16 pm
I noticed a mistake in PoA:
When Hagrid is skimming the stones across the water, talking to Hermione, he finally reveals that Buckbeak is to be executed. Upon saying this, he throws a stone into the water instead of skimming it, and you can hear a huge splash - when the camera zooms out and shows Hagrid standing in the water, there are no ripples from the stone.
I'm not so sure about that ... he threw it down at his feet, and when it spans out you see ripples circling out from around his legs, which might have been made by his own movement, but could have been made by the stone. He didn't chuck it, he dropped it, so perhaps it could have been ...
Azimuth
August 18th, 2004, 9:00 pm
I'm not so sure about that ... he threw it down at his feet, and when it spans out you see ripples circling out from around his legs, which might have been made by his own movement, but could have been made by the stone. He didn't chuck it, he dropped it, so perhaps it could have been ...
The fact that the ripples are circling around his legs means that they were caused by his legs' movement. There are no other ripples, and a considerable amount would have been caused by a stone of that size. Therefore, it is a mistake.
FluffyEarmuffs
August 18th, 2004, 10:16 pm
They appear to have forgotten about peeves.
I think thats a big mistake.
hawk1245
August 19th, 2004, 7:47 pm
In the opening shot of poa, you can see that the houses across the street from the Dursely's house are identical to it, like in COS. But when Marge opens the door, you can see that they are now different, they acidentatly bluescreened a pic of Magnolia Cresent intead of Privet Drive. So this is a FX mishap.
Selyr Black
August 20th, 2004, 4:04 am
Well, at the end of the 2nd movie, he didn't use the Avada Kedavra curse. Captioning shows it being like everada or something, I can't remember. I'll find out and edit this or post another in a few when I've confirmed what it was.
hawk1245
August 20th, 2004, 4:56 pm
Well, at the end of the 2nd movie, he didn't use the Avada Kedavra curse. Captioning shows it being like everada or something, I can't remember. I'll find out and edit this or post another in a few when I've confirmed what it was.
Sometimes captions are wrong. This is one such case. Jason Issacs (Lucius) confirmed when at a QnA that he DID say Avada...he said that he ad libbed it after reading GOF becuase he thought Lucius was quote "A complete Nazi". So the caption was wrong, he said Avada.
yumdraco
August 24th, 2004, 1:38 pm
I was just wondering, when harry, the weasleys and hermione run into Lucious at the book store, Lucious tells harry that he's very brave or foolish to say "Voldemort"'s name. But then Hermione says "Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself." Isn't she afraid to say it? I beleive Dumbledore say's it in the book. It makes no sense for Hermione to say it in the movie!
Drusilla
August 25th, 2004, 10:45 am
In the CoS movie, Harry's dorm gets ransacked by Ginny, who does it to steal the diary back. But how'd she know Harry had it? That scene was explained in the book by the whole "singing dwarves" incident, which was cut out of the movie altogether.
Movie 3: How did Sirius know where Peter was all this while? They didn't explain that he'd seen Peter in the newspaper cutting-or are we expected to assume that convicts in Azkaban get a daily paper?
hawk1245
August 25th, 2004, 6:56 pm
In the CoS movie, Harry's dorm gets ransacked by Ginny, who does it to steal the diary back. But how'd she know Harry had it? That scene was explained in the book by the whole "singing dwarves" incident, which was cut out of the movie altogether.
Movie 3: How did Sirius know where Peter was all this while? They didn't explain that he'd seen Peter in the newspaper cutting-or are we expected to assume that convicts in Azkaban get a daily paper?
In the script for COS right after Harry and Ron find the diary Ron is telling Harry about how dangerous books can be, and Harry opens it and screams "Ah! My eyes! My eyes!" Just to mess with ron. Ginny runs into him while he does this, and scream sand runs away. They think she was just scared about Harry. It was shot, but cut. The newspaper clipping was in the film too, cause otherwise it would have been useless to show the Weasleys trip, and also Notice that Stan said "Well thats the question isn't it?" And if you look closley at the paper article, they mention him saying "He's at hogwarts", among other things.
Mr Trix
September 22nd, 2004, 11:07 am
Did anyone else notice that the whomping willow looked considerably smaller in POA, than it did in COS? I mean, it didn't look menacing at all. It was still a good scene but would of been a lot more effective if it had remained the same size.
The only conclusion i can come to is that Ron and Harry did alot more damage to the whomping willow in COS than was thought. I mean, Snape did state that they had "destroyed a whomping willow that has been on the grounds for over a century" but i didn't think he meant literally! Does this mean that a new one was planted. And if so, was THAT the whomping willow featured in POA? Movie mistake, or my mistake? Any thoughts?
crookshanks1177
October 5th, 2004, 4:12 am
Did anyone else notice that the whomping willow looked considerably smaller in POA, than it did in COS? I mean, it didn't look menacing at all. It was still a good scene but would of been a lot more effective if it had remained the same size.
The only conclusion i can come to is that Ron and Harry did alot more damage to the whomping willow in COS than was thought. I mean, Snape did state that they had "destroyed a whomping willow that has been on the grounds for over a century" but i didn't think he meant literally! Does this mean that a new one was planted. And if so, was THAT the whomping willow featured in POA? Movie mistake, or my mistake? Any thoughts?
I did notice the size difference myself. But after thinking about it. If I remember right (It's been a while since I have seen the movies) when we saw the whomping willow in CoS it was night time very dark. Put in PoA it was more light out. So maybe the lighting is what caused such a difference in size to our view. Just an idea.
hawk1245
October 5th, 2004, 6:58 pm
I did notice the size difference myself. But after thinking about it. If I remember right (It's been a while since I have seen the movies) when we saw the whomping willow in CoS it was night time very dark. Put in PoA it was more light out. So maybe the lighting is what caused such a difference in size to our view. Just an idea.
Actually, it does indeed look different. But Alfonso Cauron siad that he did indeed change some things, but he did so with faith that the fans would be able to come up with their own explanation as to why things are different. "It's magic after all, isn't it? We have the moving stairs, so why not other things?" I agree with him. I have my own explanation as to why the Whomping Willow changed locations and appearence, but I think I will keep it to myself ;)
Also, Snape said "Before you were born" not "For centuries". And yes the topmost thick limb of the Willow was eventually severed from the tress due to damages. According to the script.
Dollmage
October 14th, 2004, 4:01 am
I don't know if this has been said but I was watching Sorceror's Stone last night and I realized that in the movie they start school on August 1 instead of September 1. Since Harry's birthdya is on July 31, the day Hargid takes him shopping is August 1 and then he leaves him at the platform that day. Also the train leaves at 11:00....wouldn't it have taken them alot longer to shop... Or did I miss something where they spent the night somewhere? But then it would still be August...
I just got myself really confused...
hawk1245
October 14th, 2004, 4:31 am
I don't know if this has been said but I was watching Sorceror's Stone last night and I realized that in the movie they start school on August 1 instead of September 1. Since Harry's birthdya is on July 31, the day Hargid takes him shopping is August 1 and then he leaves him at the platform that day. Also the train leaves at 11:00....wouldn't it have taken them alot longer to shop... Or did I miss something where they spent the night somewhere? But then it would still be August...
I just got myself really confused...
They don't leave the same day, they stay at The Leaky Cauldron until they leave. They never say how long it is from the conversation about Voldemort until he drops him off at the train station, a whole month passed, and in that month they stayed at TLC.
Mr Trix
October 14th, 2004, 10:39 am
Also, Snape said "Before you were born" not "For centuries". And yes the topmost thick limb of the Willow was eventually severed from the tress due to damages. According to the script.
I knew i was a little of with that quote ;)!
chupacabras76
October 14th, 2004, 11:00 am
I can think of two things...
1. He thought he could get away with it.
2. Dementors are loyal first and foremost to Voldemort. If Lucius managed to kill Harry, Voldemort's return would probably come soon enough and Lucius would get out.
BTW - do wizards not have a death penalty? Why wouldn't murdering someone constitute for a death sentence instead?
There is no death penalty in British law, and although the wizarding world clearly has its own legal procedures and laws, it would be very surprising if this were different when it comes to capital punishment. Plus, I think this would sit uncomfortably with the anti-killing tone of the novels (such as Harry persuading Sirius and Lupin to spare Pettigrew).
Dollmage
October 19th, 2004, 3:39 am
They don't leave the same day, they stay at The Leaky Cauldron until they leave. They never say how long it is from the conversation about Voldemort until he drops him off at the train station, a whole month passed, and in that month they stayed at TLC.
WOW am I an idiot! I guess it was because i was falling asleep as I was watching that i didn't figure that out. thanks though...
hawk1245
October 19th, 2004, 4:27 am
WOW am I an idiot! I guess it was because i was falling asleep as I was watching that i didn't figure that out. thanks though...
No prob. Alot of people got confused over that part for some odd reason. Something interesting to note is that the table that Hagrid and Harry sit at in PS is the same table Harry is sitting at when Mr. Weasley calls for him to tell him about Sirius Black being after him. As we all know, Sirius Black was't after him, so you may wonder if something Hagrid told Harry was wrong. Mmmmm...But thats a whole other thread huh? :)
sirius_gerl
October 21st, 2004, 3:13 am
i noticed that to...its not really a mistake, but its an actors mistake..at least that's what it looked like..in the first film, Ron was explainingto harry about wizard cards, and he sortta looks up as if he's trying to remeber his line..or to make sure he say it right
Fury
October 21st, 2004, 4:44 pm
I am gonna have to look for these all.. and find my own...
I noticed another mistake in PoA in the werewolf scene i think it was in the forest you can hear the director whisper "Emma"
I didn't notice that... that would have been cool to catch.
busy91
October 21st, 2004, 4:53 pm
What I caught is a scientific theory problem dealing with quantum mechanics. It was in POA. The time travel incident doesn't pan out since two beings with the same cosmic makeup cannot occupy the same space at the same time. So therefore H, Hr and Buckbeak should have been obliterated. Although some theories state that this will only happen if the past self sees the time traveled self.
Now would this be a mistake or just an oversight?
hawk1245
October 21st, 2004, 6:31 pm
i noticed that to...its not really a mistake, but its an actors mistake..at least that's what it looked like..in the first film, Ron was explainingto harry about wizard cards, and he sortta looks up as if he's trying to remeber his line..or to make sure he say it right
No this is just normal human nature. There are so many fl;avors he is just trying to think of some good examples. This is actually GOOD acting on Ruperts part. No human, much less Ron, have perfect speech paterns. Just count how many times you say "um" or "uh" ot "ya know" or "like" during a conversation.
Kat
October 22nd, 2004, 1:39 am
What I caught is a scientific theory problem dealing with quantum mechanics. It was in POA. The time travel incident doesn't pan out since two beings with the same cosmic makeup cannot occupy the same space at the same time. So therefore H, Hr and Buckbeak should have been obliterated. Although some theories state that this will only happen if the past self sees the time traveled self.
Now would this be a mistake or just an oversight?
since time travel has never actually been attempted, we don't know if it wouldn't work or not. everything about time travel is merely theory. not proven.
if you're going to scientifically pick apart a fantasy book, maybe fantasy isn't the genre for you...
PotionsPunk
October 22nd, 2004, 5:43 am
a mistake in the movies that I'm sure has all ready been mentioned is the Most Potente Potions book not only NOT being in the Restricted Section, but in one of the illustrations it shows a woman in mid transformation to a spider. This is a animagus transformation, not something that can be achieved in the Polyjuice Potion. Not to mention when McGonagall reveals herself to be an Animagus in the first movie.... :no:
dr_bambee
November 29th, 2004, 7:37 am
Okay, maybe it's been mentioned before, but I think this was a huge mistake on the screewriter's part and it always (even the first time I saw it) stuck out as a sore thumb to me.
The scene in the Shrieking Shack (in the movie), Hermione yells at Lupin, after the trio has discovered that he's in cahoots with Sirius, "I trusted you and all this time you've been his friend." This made no sense to me because she never really had a moment in the film where she ever bonded with Lupin. She just had the one DADA with the boggart. She just discovered he was a werewolf and said nothing about it.
So I checked it out in the book, because it was going to plague me, and now I understand where the screenwriter might have gotten himself confused with the dialogue. On page 345 (American paperback) the dialogue is rapid-fire between Hermione and Lupin until Harry interjects, "I trusted you and all this time you've been his friend." Which makes much more sense to me because Harry was the one who bonded with him. Because the dialogue between Hermione and Lupin is so rapid-fire, the screenwriter perhaps skimmed over the fact that it was actually Harry who said it.
Dramatically it would have worked better if they kept the line for Harry, but that's for the remakes which I'm sure they'll make 20 years from now.
By the way, what's with Exposition!Gryffindor? e.g. that kid who read about the grim in Divination? Couldn't that line have been given to someone else, perhaps to characters who like Prof. Trelawney and want to show off for her, perhaps, Parvati or Lavender? They had Parvati in DADA. She couldn't read about the Grim? They introduce random Exposition!Gryffindor?
GredandFeorge
November 29th, 2004, 5:32 pm
Here's two from PoA:
In the scene in the dormitory where the boys are supposedly eating candy that will make them act like animals, Seamus Finnegan gets a monkey, but flaps his arms like a chicken!
Also, in the train compartment, Hermione says "Ouch Ron, that was my foot" as he made his way over to the OPPOSITE end or the compartment which would have made it completely impossible for him to step on her foot!
Crookshanks800
November 29th, 2004, 6:05 pm
In the Leaky Cauldron scene in the beginning of POA, Mr. Weasley says to Harry "13 years ago when you defeated ..." He should have said 12 years ago since Harry has just turned 13 at the beginning of POA and Voldemort attacked him when he was 1 year old.
ravenclaw02
November 29th, 2004, 6:18 pm
a mistake in the movies that I'm sure has all ready been mentioned is the Most Potente Potions book not only NOT being in the Restricted Section, but in one of the illustrations it shows a woman in mid transformation to a spider. This is a animagus transformation, not something that can be achieved in the Polyjuice Potion.
That's a good point ... plus it totally negates the next scene, where Hermione accidentally uses the Polyjuice for an animal transformation, and we all learn that it can't be done! How would they explain that, if a woman's using it to transform into a spider?
Pilly
November 29th, 2004, 10:50 pm
I finally remembered to post on the board about this. When I got the Region 1 Widescreen Edition of Prisoner of Azkaban on DVD, I noticed a little mistake. In Title 1, Chapter 6, and at running time 0:17:36, for two frames, the number "301" appears underneath the poster of Sirius. It happens really quickly, so slow it down to frame by frame to see it. It is my opinion that it is just a leftover cue from the editing of the film, but a friend insists that it is some big clue in a long chain of clues. Whichever it is, you be the judge. Happy Hunting
xXillusion
November 30th, 2004, 12:02 am
remake Harry Potter? are you kidding? It's like remaking original Star Wars! And disrespectful!!!
Arwen Undomiel
November 30th, 2004, 12:19 am
I don't know if anyone ever mentioned this yet, as I didn't have time to read the entire thread, but the two biggest mistakes I noticed in PoA are:
1) in the scene by the lake, when Harry sees his "father", you can see the person's robes rippling in the wind if you look carefully behind the stag patronus. But when Harry cast the patronus he wasn't wearing robes, but a hooded sweatshirt.
2) in the defense against the dark arts lesson taught by Snivelly, Hermione tells the class the differences between an animagus and a werewolf. "Furthermore, a werewolf only responds to the call of it's own kind." WHAT?! Hermione herself howled while they were back in time, to save Harry from Lupin-the-werewolf, and it worked! How can this be??? It was NOT in the book at all. :huh:
hawk1245
December 2nd, 2004, 5:49 am
I don't know if anyone ever mentioned this yet, as I didn't have time to read the entire thread, but the two biggest mistakes I noticed in PoA are:
1) in the scene by the lake, when Harry sees his "father", you can see the person's robes rippling in the wind if you look carefully behind the stag patronus. But when Harry cast the patronus he wasn't wearing robes, but a hooded sweatshirt.
2) in the defense against the dark arts lesson taught by Snivelly, Hermione tells the class the differences between an animagus and a werewolf. "Furthermore, a werewolf only responds to the call of it's own kind." WHAT?! Hermione herself howled while they were back in time, to save Harry from Lupin-the-werewolf, and it worked! How can this be??? It was NOT in the book at all. :huh:
I checked both and (no offense intended) they are both incorrect. I watcheds the Patronous scene over and over, and It just looks like robes, but its just the ned of his blue jacket blowing. The reason it looks kinda like a robe is because of the distorsion caused by the silver mist of the Patronous. And Harry was wearing a blue jacket, not a hooded sweatshirt.
As for the Snivley class, she says it only responds to the clal of it's own kind. The "Call" of it own kind. It like saying that "Jose can only understand Spanish". SHe didn't say he a wearwolf would only respond if it was a werewolf calling, just that the call ITSELF was what it repoded to. This line was actually added to the movie to setup Hermione saving Harry later.
PotionsPunk
December 2nd, 2004, 11:24 pm
That's a good point ... plus it totally negates the next scene, where Hermione accidentally uses the Polyjuice for an animal transformation, and we all learn that it can't be done! How would they explain that, if a woman's using it to transform into a spider?
:lol: thanks and I agree. One of the gravest mistakes that really unnerved me to no end was Sirius's tattoos. It was a GREAT improvisation, and I think it would have worked, save for one key thing: Sirius was in isolation in Azkaban. I don't think one of the Dementor's was a tattoo artist on the side.
Also, the OBSCENE amount of wandless magic in the movie. When the bartenender lifts the seats, when Lupin opens the locks on the trunk...I think that's it but to me wandless magic is a subject of bad fanfiction. There is NO mention of such in the books...I really hate when people take unnecessary liberties...
hawk1245
December 3rd, 2004, 2:50 am
:lol: thanks and I agree. One of the gravest mistakes that really unnerved me to no end was Sirius's tattoos. It was a GREAT improvisation, and I think it would have worked, save for one key thing: Sirius was in isolation in Azkaban. I don't think one of the Dementor's was a tattoo artist on the side.
Also, the OBSCENE amount of wandless magic in the movie. When the bartenender lifts the seats, when Lupin opens the locks on the trunk...I think that's it but to me wandless magic is a subject of bad fanfiction. There is NO mention of such in the books...I really hate when people take unnecessary liberties...
Uh...Who says that they weren't there before he went to Azkaban? Also, wandless magic is in the book a few time. When wizards come of agethey learn how to harness magic without having a wand, and only use wands for heavy duty spells. I liked all of the backround magic, it is a good way of compensating fro the millons of great and entertaining details that JK puts in the books that make the books feel so real, the backround magic has the same effect. It makes magic feel casua, almost like electricity (only cooler). Like when Lupin jusr casually lights the candles during the Patronous practice scene. I loved those little bits.
PotionsPunk
December 3rd, 2004, 4:42 am
Uh...Who says that they weren't there before he went to Azkaban? Also, wandless magic is in the book a few time. When wizards come of agethey learn how to harness magic without having a wand, and only use wands for heavy duty spells. I liked all of the backround magic, it is a good way of compensating fro the millons of great and entertaining details that JK puts in the books that make the books feel so real, the backround magic has the same effect. It makes magic feel casua, almost like electricity (only cooler). Like when Lupin jusr casually lights the candles during the Patronous practice scene. I loved those little bits.
Please state (as specific as possible) where it states that wizards learn any kind of wandless magic, and I will offer my most sincerest apologies.
I must apologize for the Sirius statement, since the only portraits Harry has of Sirius is the one at his parent's wedding, and he could have just as easily gotten them shortly afterward. So for that I offer my apologies, but until I have proof (and the only thing that can be accepted as proof would be an excerpt from the books) I will once again offer an apology to the forum. Until then, good day to you and happy hunting.
Pilly
December 3rd, 2004, 4:53 am
There are many things that are put into the movies that aren't in the books. And there are a lot bigger things to get upset about instead of wand less magic. What really gets me is that there is no support for the third movie's implication of a Ron and Hermione relationship. That changes the story and plot a lot more than whether or not a wizard has a wand or not. As for proof, the beginning of the first book comes to mind. Harry makes the glass disappear at the zoo and he has never even touched a wand. That's some proof. Anyways, I apologize in advance if this comes across snappy, but I've had a long day at work.
askani
December 3rd, 2004, 6:12 am
^^I just finished watching PS and Hagrid says to Harry, did anything weird ever happen before when you were angry or scared? [or something like that]
Harry would be mad at Dudley for pushing him away from the glass. And since Harry's so "powerful" it would make sense that something would happen.
Arwen Undomiel
December 5th, 2004, 1:14 am
I checked both and (no offense intended) they are both incorrect. I watcheds the Patronous scene over and over, and It just looks like robes, but its just the ned of his blue jacket blowing. The reason it looks kinda like a robe is because of the distorsion caused by the silver mist of the Patronous. And Harry was wearing a blue jacket, not a hooded sweatshirt. Maybe you are right, but I thought it was a little too long to be his jacket. And by the way, it looks like a blue hooded sweatshirt with a zipper and two white stripes on the sleeves if you ask me. But don't mind me, I've had a bad day today, nearly got myself killed at least ten times. lol. And, I guess you may be right about the werewolf call, but it seems a little weird to me that they completely changed it from the book. I mean, sure, the part where they escape from the werewolf isn't all that spectacular, and it wouldn't have made a great scene in the movie, but still, the changes didn't have to be that drastic. By the way, can someone tell me how to do those quote thingys where it says "originally posted by so and so"? I hope you don't mind me asking, but I'm a little new at this forum posting stuff. :blush: Is there somewhere where you can get help with it?
~Arwen~
hawk1245
December 5th, 2004, 3:08 am
Please state (as specific as possible) where it states that wizards learn any kind of wandless magic, and I will offer my most sincerest apologies.
I must apologize for the Sirius statement, since the only portraits Harry has of Sirius is the one at his parent's wedding, and he could have just as easily gotten them shortly afterward. So for that I offer my apologies, but until I have proof (and the only thing that can be accepted as proof would be an excerpt from the books) I will once again offer an apology to the forum. Until then, good day to you and happy hunting.
Well dumbledore signals the feast without a wand each year, with a wave of his hand. Also on page 306 of the American version of
Book 1: "He clapped his hands, and in an instant the green became scarlet and the silver became gold, The huge Slytherin serpent became the prud Gryfindor lion." This is describing AD changeing the decorations after the new winenr of the house bup is anounced. All from the book.
hawk1245
December 8th, 2004, 5:50 pm
BTW, here's another mistake I noticed. The shot of the dementor freezing up the flower in POA re used an old matte painting fro mCOS, and didn't alter it enough it match the minor adjusments made to the castle in POA. Now, the little plumpy towers were replaced with the steples as like POA, but the clocktower, hospital wing, courtyard, bridge, and the hill to Hagrid's hut just disapear. Here is the proof: In pic number one, the clocktower, hospital wing, courtyard, and bridge, should all be visible in the circled area, but they aren't. Look at pic number 2 to see what I mean. There one minute, but in this one scene they are all the sudden just gone, along with the land that they stood on!
PS: I am SO sorry for double posting! I completley didn't mean to! Won't happen again!
Lone Swordsman
December 10th, 2004, 5:46 pm
I don't know if people consider this a mistake, but i do. When i first saw COS there was somthing that bothered me about Godric Gryffindor sword but i couldn't figure out what until i watched the movie the second time, then i figured it out. The style of sword is wrong, givin the time Godric lived and where. The sword in the movie was actually closer in design to a Renaissance type of sword called a "smallsword." But i guess if they had used a broad or Hand-and-a-half sword it would have been too heavy for harry to wield. The only reason i noticed itis because i'm a military history nut (especilly for swords and other archaic weapons).
HP_Rox
December 11th, 2004, 8:40 am
Am I the only one who noticed that Harry goesd to Hogwarts on his birthday in both movies? Harry's birthday is on July 31. Hogwarts term starts September 1. In the first movie, Hagrid gets him from the hut on the rock, and takes him school shopping. Right after, he gets on the train to Hogwarts; a month early.
hagrid takes him from the hut on the rocks AT NIGHT
obviously it will not be daylight in diagon alley
so they get his things and then he gets his ticket and gets on the train ON SEPTEMBER THE 1ST!
LockSilver
December 11th, 2004, 10:47 am
what about the basilisk in CoS, when it gets blinded by fawkes and corners harry in the tunnel wouldn't it still be able to smell him, forgive me if i'm wrong but i believe snakes hunt via smell any way. So in that scene harry would be dead end of film!
Fury
December 11th, 2004, 2:29 pm
I counted this so-called time lapse yesterday watching POA...
It was the scene where Hermione punches Draco.
At first Ron says "He's not worth it" then five seconds later... Hermione punches Draco.
Same scene, except in time turner part. Ron says "He's not worth it"... then it takes 30 seconds for Hermione to talk to Harry about the time turner... then Hermione punches Draco.
Serious time lapse there.
filius
December 11th, 2004, 2:43 pm
I counted this so-called time lapse yesterday watching POA...
It was the scene where Hermione punches Draco.
At first Ron says "He's not worth it" then five seconds later... Hermione punches Draco.
Same scene, except in time turner part. Ron says "He's not worth it"... then it takes 30 seconds for Hermione to talk to Harry about the time turner... then Hermione punches Draco.
Serious time lapse there.
You can't blame them! They were filmed separately! :p
Goldberry
December 11th, 2004, 7:13 pm
Maybe I'm just confused about something here, but in PoA, after Sirius slashes the Fat Lady's painting and everyone is all hunkered down in the Great Hall, there's a shot of the castle from the outside (with dementors circling it), and you can see all the lights in the castle being put out. Now wait a second, if you were afraid that a killer was on the loose in your castle, why would you turn out the lights? I'd want them all on, myself. Hmm...
I had another one, too, but I forgot it...Something about the last scene in Lupin's office, if I remember right...he does one of those "switcher hander" mistakes, I think, but I can't remember exactly what he does. Hmm, I'll have to watch it again and figure it out.
GodricHollow
December 11th, 2004, 7:23 pm
Yeah Goldberry, but remember that people are trying to sleep? Some people like to sleep in the dark you know.
Fury
December 11th, 2004, 7:26 pm
Yeah Goldberry, but remember that people are trying to sleep? Some people like to sleep in the dark you know.
Actually Goldberry has more of a point. they would keep the lights off in the Great Hall.. that is where everyone was. In the book the light in the Entrance Hall was on, I do believe.
ginny04
December 11th, 2004, 8:21 pm
I counted this so-called time lapse yesterday watching POA...
It was the scene where Hermione punches Draco.
At first Ron says "He's not worth it" then five seconds later... Hermione punches Draco.
Same scene, except in time turner part. Ron says "He's not worth it"... then it takes 30 seconds for Hermione to talk to Harry about the time turner... then Hermione punches Draco.
Serious time lapse there.
true it would have been alot better if the time turner parts matched the rest of the film, time wise, BUT its quite hard im sure they didnt totally care much about time cause when harry+herms saw lupin go into the passage snape came only like 2sec after but it should have been at least 5min or so. They just wanted to show the use of the time turner....herms howling....the rocks being thrown and so on
Pilly
December 11th, 2004, 9:34 pm
In response to the turning of the lights off. If you remember Dumbledore is confident that the castle has been searched and that the kids could return to their dorms. He doesn't want to wake them all up again and to just let them sleep. So it makes sense. They turn them out cause there's nothing left to search, Black would be long gone by then.
loopdeedoo123
December 12th, 2004, 5:24 pm
I love (sarcasm) how in the first scene of the third movie, Harry's doing magic illegally. ("Lumos Maximus!")
hawk1245
December 12th, 2004, 7:11 pm
I love (sarcasm) how in the first scene of the third movie, Harry's doing magic illegally. ("Lumos Maximus!")
I have explained this before. He wasn't doing it Illegally. It is homework from hogwarts that he is secretly working on. Remember in the POA book Harry smuggled his homwork out of the cupboard and under a loose floorboad in his room? And at night he snuck and studied? I am sure that the MOM has rules that say it's okay to study magic if it's homework, Dumbledore probably worked it out. And I think that Lumo spells don't count any way because a muggle would just think it was a fancy futuristic flashlight. Harry did a Patronous and Lumos in OOTP, but they only mentioned the Patronous at the hearing and other places in the book, so Lumos, or it's varients (Hermione's 'Lumos Harem' and Harry's 'Lumos Maxima') don't count as ilegal.
sturgispodmoore
December 12th, 2004, 8:36 pm
I'm not sure if this is a mistakr or not, but after the Harry's fall off his broom he wakes up in the hospital wing, but someone says something like "what do you expect, he fell over a 100 feet." I'm pretty sure that they don't use feet over there right?
Fury
December 13th, 2004, 1:49 pm
I'm not sure if this is a mistakr or not, but after the Harry's fall off his broom he wakes up in the hospital wing, but someone says something like "what do you expect, he fell over a 100 feet." I'm pretty sure that they don't use feet over there right?
Oh... good point. I just thought of that....
No, I think they use meters.
Wab
December 13th, 2004, 2:46 pm
Official use of metric measurements are relatively new in the UK.
Old habits die hard. Australia went metric in 1974 and people who grew up before they were introduced still use the old measurements in some situations.
LockSilver
December 13th, 2004, 9:02 pm
yeah us brits genrally use a mixture of metric and imperial, we learn both! Or at least i did when i was at school, but it mkaes sense that in the wizarding world they use the old measurement system.
Pilly
December 14th, 2004, 5:16 am
I was watching the movie again, and I'm sure that this has been brought up before, even before the movie came out. It’s regarding how in POA the students are wearing their own casual clothes around the campus. This never really bothered me, since I went to a private school with a dress code, and I never could stand staying in uniform more than was necessary. That's not my problem. My problem comes in the fact that Ron and Harry are both wear somewhat new and fashionably trendy. In the books it was clear that Harry always had to wear Dudley’s hand-me-downs that were always big and baggy, so why is he wearing a nice looking Adidas track jacket? Also, it was clear that the Weasleys didn't have much money and that most of Ron's clothes used to be his brothers' or hand made (with love) by his mother. So why is he wearing relatively new clothes? I know that one reasoning could be that Harry has wizard money and Ron's family got the prize from the ministry (but they used that for a vacation and Ron's new wand.) But even with these explanations why wouldn't the kids be wearing things that were fashionable in the wizarding world? (More example, the attention to the wizard view of muggle's clothes) In my opinion it all comes down to the lowering of the source material from the books down to the level of Hollywood. Make it as appealing as possible to the largest amount of people to turn a profit. (Another example is how Spiderman 2 has condensed the characters of Gwen Stacey and Mary Jane Watson into one, easily marketable love interest that they can put on the poster to sell more tickets) Well, I'd better stop now; I could go on for pages on this if I was really fired up.
(*This is my opinion, and I am entitled to it. I understand that you have your own, and I respect that.*)
ydnam96
December 14th, 2004, 5:31 am
I was watching the movie again, and I'm sure that this has been brought up before, even before the movie came out. It’s regarding how in POA the students are wearing their own casual clothes around the campus. This never really bothered me, since I went to a private school with a dress code, and I never could stand staying in uniform more than was necessary. That's not my problem. My problem comes in the fact that Ron and Harry are both wear somewhat new and fashionably trendy. In the books it was clear that Harry always had to wear Dudley’s hand-me-downs that were always big and baggy, so why is he wearing a nice looking Adidas track jacket? Also, it was clear that the Weasleys didn't have much money and that most of Ron's clothes used to be his brothers' or hand made (with love) by his mother. So why is he wearing relatively new clothes? I know that one reasoning could be that Harry has wizard money and Ron's family got the prize from the ministry (but they used that for a vacation and Ron's new wand.) But even with these explanations why wouldn't the kids be wearing things that were fashionable in the wizarding world? (More example, the attention to the wizard view of muggle's clothes) In my opinion it all comes down to the lowering of the source material from the books down to the level of Hollywood. Make it as appealing as possible to the largest amount of people to turn a profit. (Another example is how Spiderman 2 has condensed the characters of Gwen Stacey and Mary Jane Watson into one, easily marketable love interest that they can put on the poster to sell more tickets) Well, I'd better stop now; I could go on for pages on this if I was really fired up.
(*This is my opinion, and I am entitled to it. I understand that you have your own, and I respect that.*)
I agree! I hadn't put my finger on what exactly bothered me about them wearing "normal" clothes and this is it! You said it perfectly. It kind of sells out JK's world in exchange for today's popular society.
hawk1245
December 14th, 2004, 6:59 pm
I agree! I hadn't put my finger on what exactly bothered me about them wearing "normal" clothes and this is it! You said it perfectly. It kind of sells out JK's world in exchange for today's popular society.
I will repectfully disagree. AC didn't do it to pander to todays kids, he did it to make the characters feel like real people and not fairy tale wizards, which is something that makes the books so great. I think that Harry's wordrobe especially, really gives you a good feel for what his character is ni POA, everything from his hair, to his jacket, they just all say 'rebel', whic his Harry is in POA. He is confused, stressed, and is trying to make sense of so many things that are going on in his life, and his wardrobe reflects that. Notice how during the night bus he took his plad dress shirt and casually unbottoned it and put his rebel jacket over it? This is kind of symbolic for me, he is getting rid of the social rules that the Durlsey's do to make him wear certai clothes and starts taking his own intiative. You really see Harry transform from the kid he was in PS and COS to the teenager in just those few seconds, I though it wasa great transistion.
GodricHollow
December 14th, 2004, 7:13 pm
I'll have to watch the movies again, I'm a little shady, but that sounds like a Normal Teenager, which, if I was Harry, is what I'd want to be.
MoodyHarry
December 14th, 2004, 7:24 pm
I will repectfully disagree. AC didn't do it to pander to todays kids, he did it to make the characters feel like real people and not fairy tale wizards, which is something that makes the books so great. I think that Harry's wordrobe especially, really gives you a good feel for what his character is ni POA, everything from his hair, to his jacket, they just all say 'rebel', whic his Harry is in POA. He is confused, stressed, and is trying to make sense of so many things that are going on in his life, and his wardrobe reflects that. Notice how during the night bus he took his plad dress shirt and casually unbottoned it and put his rebel jacket over it? This is kind of symbolic for me, he is getting rid of the social rules that the Durlsey's do to make him wear certai clothes and starts taking his own intiative. You really see Harry transform from the kid he was in PS and COS to the teenager in just those few seconds, I though it wasa great transistion.I agree! As mentioned in another thread (I think), how any kids are going to wear their school uniform on the weekends. I went to a uniformed school and couldn't wait to get out of the plaid skirt and into comfy clothes. Especially Harry and Hermione who grew up as Muggles, wearing muggle clothing. It just seems normal for the kids to do that - wizard or not.
Actually, I think in one of the books (PS/SS) there is a reference to wizards/witches wearing their wizard gear appearing in muggle-inhabited areas. I think McGonagall complains to Dumbledore about that - that the wizards are celebrating Voldemorts death while wearing their wizard-wear. Wizards are trying to hide this fact from the muggles, so most would dress in muggle-clothing anyway when in muggle-public, so it is not unusual I would think.
Also, to mention OotP. When Harry is rescued from Privet Drive - he gets yelled at by Moody when Harry "stores" his wand in his jeans.
And when Harry and the gang are at 12 Grimmauld Place, there is mention of the kids wearing jeans and t-shirts. I can't remember where exactly in order to quote from canon, but it's there. I know there are a lot of references to that fact and how did this post get so long....... :huh:
hawk1245
December 15th, 2004, 6:50 pm
Exactly, and they also wore muggle clothes in the first two on many occasions, not as stylish mind you, but muggle none the less. Anyhoo, as for mistakes:
In the timeturner scene, if you look carefully after H and Her go back to 7:30 and the camera is spinnig around them you can see bluescreen lines around them. This whole scene was achived by doing a motion control shot where the bacround does the same camera move as the foreground 'bluescreen' actors.
LondonGirl26
December 15th, 2004, 7:08 pm
Hmm . . . I'm not sure if this was mentioned yet (since I'm being lazy about scrolling through previous pages): In PoA, I noticed that when the trio goes down to the lake to talk to Hagrid about the fate of Buckbeak, Harry first sits on a large rock near the edge of the lake as Hagrid tells them what happened. Then, Harry later stands up in the background after Hagrid says Buckbeak is sentenced to death. However, when the camera pans out in the next scene, we get an aerial shot of Hagrid and the trio, and Harry is back sitting on the rock again. It's really a minor mistake, but it makes the editing more obvious.
Annabelle Black
December 16th, 2004, 1:55 pm
I always disliked the dueling scene in CoS. Harry and Malfoy throw two completely different spells at each other but they both do the same thing: blow each other backward. What's wrong with having the spells do what they are supposed to do?
hawk1245
December 16th, 2004, 6:46 pm
I always disliked the dueling scene in CoS. Harry and Malfoy throw two completely different spells at each other but they both do the same thing: blow each other backward. What's wrong with having the spells do what they are supposed to do?
How is this a mistake? The spells do both knock you agianst the ground, but in completley different ways, Harry is sent spinning like a wheel and malfoy is spun horizantaly (sp?).
Nate8727
December 22nd, 2004, 12:57 am
In regards to the clothing that Harry and Ron wear, and why it is different in the movie.
Go back to when you were young in school, if not already. Now your parents don't buy you everything right?(eh, maybe they do), but if they don't then imagine what you would want to change to make yourself fit in.
I know numerous times I wish I could have changed something right when I got to school, and of course before also.
Now imagine you can change things with magic. Basically limitless small spells that can let you do things you want to do to change your clothes.
For example. Lets say Harry doesnt like what he has in his wardrobe.
1. He can shrink his clothes to fit.(especially from Dudley's hand me downs)
2. He can transfigure what he wants.
3. Make it look new with a rejuvinating spell.
Those are just some things I would do, or would probably do to make my clothes look better. You could also change colors, and just about anything else you could think of. You could be wearing the same shirt everyday but make it look different. (Gross, but good idea, especially in Ron's case).
Now I'm dissapointed that the movie doesn't show this at all, but I imagine thats what is taking place. I mean they never show the characters doing basic things like hygiene, that would just be a waste of time, so why would they show them doing basic spells like changing clothing?
I also don't recall in the books that they change their clothing, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Make sense now?
Jenn457
January 2nd, 2005, 1:50 pm
A mistake in POA i dont think so read on .....................
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on the list of mistakes for POA one is
"when Harry id conjuring the patonous by the lake he goes back in time you see Harry feint before the patonous returns where as the first time round you see the patronousreturn then Harry feint"
i dont belive this to be amistake as you know Harry belives its his dad taht is conuring the Patonous so his postpone it as long as he can, so i belive it would be a few seconds or minutes later so i belive alfonso did this on intentionaly
what do you think mistake or intentional??
Kimmetje
January 2nd, 2005, 1:59 pm
Don't know if this has been said, but the house tables don't fit in PoA. As like said in GoF that the Durmstrang's sat on the different side of the hall from the Gryffindor's while in PoA you see Malfoy sitting on the table next to Harry at first and than next time Gryffindor yet again sits on a different table. It's really stupid, I mean can't they have like a main table for all houses which is standard.
Selyr Black
January 3rd, 2005, 7:24 am
I don't think they know we notice these sort of things. It also might have something to do with how complicated everything in filming is, but who am I to know?
They *could* just learn to review the last take of a scene and make sure everything is in the same order as it was previously, but then, it's only an idea. . .
PotionsPunk
January 3rd, 2005, 5:51 pm
I'm almost positive this has been mentioned: but at the beginning of POA Harry is practicing Lumos. It's a common fact that students cannot practice magic out of school, yet he gets no warning. But when he blows up Aunt Marge, not only does he make a run for it, but Vernon tells him: "You're not allowed to use that out of school, they'll kick you out for sure" which would indicate that Harry could use it if he wanted to, with no conciquence.
JofpGallagher
January 4th, 2005, 12:13 am
I'm almost positive this has been mentioned: but at the beginning of POA Harry is practicing Lumos. It's a common fact that students cannot practice magic out of school, yet he gets no warning. But when he blows up Aunt Marge, not only does he make a run for it, but Vernon tells him: "You're not allowed to use that out of school, they'll kick you out for sure" which would indicate that Harry could use it if he wanted to, with no conciquence.
Yep, it was mentioned before, and I like Hawk's explanation and agree with him. I'm quoting it here for you :) Additionally, I believe there are some "freedom" to do some simple magic spells as long as it's not in front of any muggle. However, I can't stop thinking that Hagrid did magic in front of muggles in SS....but he said to Harry not to mention it, so for Hagrid, the Ministry cannot detect magic misuse?
I have explained this before. He wasn't doing it Illegally. It is homework from hogwarts that he is secretly working on. Remember in the POA book Harry smuggled his homwork out of the cupboard and under a loose floorboad in his room? And at night he snuck and studied? I am sure that the MOM has rules that say it's okay to study magic if it's homework, Dumbledore probably worked it out. And I think that Lumo spells don't count any way because a muggle would just think it was a fancy futuristic flashlight. Harry did a Patronous and Lumos in OOTP, but they only mentioned the Patronous at the hearing and other places in the book, so Lumos, or it's varients (Hermione's 'Lumos Harem' and Harry's 'Lumos Maxima') don't count as ilegal.
HP_Rox
January 4th, 2005, 1:35 am
also another movie mistake is
in POA
dumbledore tells them about the dementors
then proceeds to the feast
what about the sorting?
there is no sign of any sorting taking or had taken place whatsoever
PotionsPunk
January 4th, 2005, 6:02 am
That makes a lot of sense, thank you kindly JofpGallagher :)
Selyr Black
January 4th, 2005, 6:35 am
also another movie mistake is
in POA
dumbledore tells them about the dementors
then proceeds to the feast
what about the sorting?
there is no sign of any sorting taking or had taken place whatsoever
Not important == cut.
Apparently, they didn't find the sorting very important to the plotline for the movie. Though it may have been important during the book, it didn't appear in the movie. It's simply too hard to make everything fit.
AmyLeeL3E
January 12th, 2005, 10:58 am
In The Philosopher Stone movie, when Harry, Ron and Hermione just left Fluffy, 3rd floor, they go to the common room. Ron, Hermione and Harry go upstairs, then they stop on a door. Hermione goes in and says that she is going to bed. How can that be? If a boy climbs the stairs to go to the girls' dormitories, the stairs transform into a slide and he ends in the common room. That didn't happen to them!
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In PoA, when Hermione and Harry go back in time, Harry congured the Patronus to save Sirius' life and his life. When he congured the Patronus we don't see Prongs. But, when they are on the other side of the lake(before he knew anything about the Time Turner) they see Prongs.
natrah
January 12th, 2005, 1:30 pm
truth be told, i hate the movies, i've always looking forward to the next movie hoping the director would finally see some sense and make the movie better but, it never happen at least POA looks more like a real movie than the last two. About the dresscode i think they should chuck the ties and and the uniform and start wearing the robes over normal shirt because that is what i think they wear in the books,
and the lumos thing is like GOD! why can't they just follow the books! i mean if ur allowed simple magic why can't harry use alohomora to escape when he was imprisoned by the dursley? anyway im new here so i don't know if i'm posting this at the right place?
Hollis
January 12th, 2005, 11:14 pm
well, school robes are ineed as they are portrayd in the movies, Natrah.
If you read any Dorothy Sayers' mysteries, expecially those set at Oxford (Gaudy Night) you'll read that indeed, British students may wear "graduation type" gowns that we only wear at commencement exercisese in America.
Excerpt from Gaudy Night: Students dashing to lectures, their gowns hitched hurridly over light summer frocks, the wind jerking their flat caps like so many jester's cockscombs. http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0061043494/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-5185352-7312943#reader-page
gowns ~ robes :shrug:
someone correct me?
huckleberry
January 15th, 2005, 5:57 am
its ok! mistakes never affect the movie so much...
hawk1245
January 16th, 2005, 5:28 pm
Not important == cut.
Apparently, they didn't find the sorting very important to the plotline for the movie. Though it may have been important during the book, it didn't appear in the movie. It's simply too hard to make everything fit.
Actually the sorting took place BEFORE Dumbledores speech about Dementor,s look at the book again. And there are signs that the sorting took place, during the choir scene look at the student table and you will see that in the mess of red hoods at the Gryfindor table, there are a few smaller kids with plain black hoods (they don't have their house robes yet).
Don't know if this has been said, but the house tables don't fit in PoA. As like said in GoF that the Durmstrang's sat on the different side of the hall from the Gryffindor's while in PoA you see Malfoy sitting on the table next to Harry at first and than next time Gryffindor yet again sits on a different table. It's really stupid, I mean can't they have like a main table for all houses which is standard.
Actually, no, the Gryffondors always sit at the samle table in POA, I checked, as do all of the houses.
Mizaru
January 20th, 2005, 7:25 pm
You-Know-Who, I'm sure they did it to avoid stereotyping blonds as villains in the films. :) When you think about it, every person described as blond in the books is a baddie: the Dursleys, the Malfoys, Lockhart, Rita Skeeter, Millicent Bulstrode, Barty Jr.....
Either JKR doesn't like blondes or she's fighting against the Disney black-haired-villains stereotype. :D
Old post I know, but the blond villain thing to me makes it seem kind of nazi-esque...
Vittoria
January 20th, 2005, 7:49 pm
Apparently, they didn't find the sorting very important to the plotline for the movie.
In POA, Harry never attended the sorting - He was seeing McGonagall about the dementor on the train, then waiting for Hermione while she gets her time turner.
Blizzard
January 23rd, 2005, 8:11 am
One mistake, which i know has been mentioned a bit already, is the only one that bugs me. It is how the Pot hermione breaks with the stone looks different the second time around. I have tried to convince myself that it's from a different angle so it looks different, but that's not the case. I don't see why they had to film it again. :huh:
runitzandrew
January 23rd, 2005, 8:17 am
I'm not sure if this has been discussed or if this is actually true, but in the 3rd movie, PoA, it seemed as if the tables in the Great Hall kept moving throughout the year. I haven't seen the movie in about a month so I might be wrong, but in the beginning it showed Gryffindor all the way to the right with Slytherin right next to it on it's left. When they're back in the Great Hall later in the movie, the Gryffindor table is second from the left and the Slytherin is at it's right (the scene where Draco is showing Pansy his 'broken' arm). Sorry if my memory is a bit hazy, but I think this was a mistake.
Blizzard
January 23rd, 2005, 2:40 pm
I think the tables stay the same, but the students don't always sit at the same seats at their table.
hawk1245
January 23rd, 2005, 5:37 pm
One mistake, which i know has been mentioned a bit already, is the only one that bugs me. It is how the Pot hermione breaks with the stone looks different the second time around. I have tried to convince myself that it's from a different angle so it looks different, but that's not the case. I don't see why they had to film it again. :huh:
They had to film it again because they wanted to show the rock zooming into the hut, I think they could have shown it going IN to the hut and then RIGHT when it hits the pot, cut to the angle used before.
I'm not sure if this has been discussed or if this is actually true, but in the 3rd movie, PoA, it seemed as if the tables in the Great Hall kept moving throughout the year. I haven't seen the movie in about a month so I might be wrong, but in the beginning it showed Gryffindor all the way to the right with Slytherin right next to it on it's left. When they're back in the Great Hall later in the movie, the Gryffindor table is second from the left and the Slytherin is at it's right (the scene where Draco is showing Pansy his 'broken' arm). Sorry if my memory is a bit hazy, but I think this was a mistake.
Actually, the don't change WITHIN POA. In both PS and COS the Gryffindors sat to the right where the first years march in in PS. But in POA, The Slytherins occupy that table, and the Gryffindors occupy the left side. In GOF oddly, the Gryffindors go back to sitting on the right side again. Odd.
Blizzard
January 24th, 2005, 4:11 am
I don't know if this one has been mentioned, but i think it always looks like Harry had just got a haircut when he is coming back on Buckbeak. It might just be the wind.
kenmarekestrel
January 27th, 2005, 7:40 am
I noticed something little (or huge, depending on how you look at it :)) last night while watching PoA. Its in the scene where Harry, Ron and Hermione run out of Hagrids and hide behind the pumpkins during the timeturner scenes.
When Hermione heard the branch crack, she spun around clockwise and looked into the forest, then she turned back anti-clockwise towards the pumpkins again to run up the hill.
When Harry and Hermione are watching them from the forest later on, she spins around clockwise, looks into the forest, then continues around clockwise with her back to the pumpkins to run up the hill.
SSJ_Jup81
January 27th, 2005, 9:10 am
Hmm, forgot what I was going to add here. I'm not too observant with this stuff, but I did notice the voice different with Tom Felton for some scenes in CoS.
And a quick question, I know you guys are sticking to "movie mistakes" but for PS/SS, can someone explain the entire scene with the kids getting detention with Hagrid? It's been so long since I read the book, I couldn't remember this part, other than I remembered Neville being there instead of Ron.
What happened to Ron in the book for this part, and why was Neville given detention and stuff anyway?
Edit: Remembered what I wanted to say, and don't think it was mentioned. I noticed the height differences between Harry and Ron for CoS. Rupert is taller for some scenes. I noticed it when I watched CoS Sunday.
The thing I noticed was in CoS during the Rogue Bludger scene. After Harry's arm is broken and he lands on the ground, Snitch in hand, the bludger dives for him. In the shot where the bludger lands on the ground between his knees, he's leaning back on both his arms, including the broken one. When Hermione, Ron and company come over to him, however, he can't move the arm at all. :lol:
lol You saw where that bludger was going. I think he just forgot about that pain in his arm so he wouldn't feel a somewhat worse one in a place that probably mean more to him than his broken arm. :p:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
harrysgurl07
January 27th, 2005, 6:54 pm
okay I don't know if anyone has said this or not but in the beginnig of the third movie harry is using his wand to study. but in the book it tells him that he is using a flashlight.
hawk1245
January 27th, 2005, 11:08 pm
okay I don't know if anyone has said this or not but in the beginnig of the third movie harry is using his wand to study. but in the book it tells him that he is using a flashlight.
Not a mistake, for three reasons:
1: Book to film changes are not movie mistakes.
2: Harrys homework in the book was about Magical History, the homework he studies at the begining of the film is TELLING him to use his wand. He isn't using his wand to READ, he's using it becuase that's what the books tells him to do. Pause the DVD when it shows the book, and it says to say "Lumos Maxima!".
3: Harry is allawed to use magic outside of schoo lif it is required by his school.
Potters Goblet
February 17th, 2005, 7:22 pm
It wasn't so much a mistake as an oversight on the part of Cuaron, (whom I despise as a director but that's neither here nor there.) but I think that leaving out the fact that Sirius signs Harry's hogsmeade permission slip was a major blunder! How's he going to GO to Hogsmeade? He'll need permission right? We all know the DURSLEYs didn't do it. The book says Sirius Black did it... and if either movie four or five shows Harry in Hogsmeade It'll need to be brought up somehow that Sirius gave him permission as his Godfather.
Some have said I'm nitpicking because I don't care for the way Cuaron butchered (in my opinion) POA. But I don't think I am. Maybe I am, but I don't think I am. I think it was a huge mistake. He could have cut out the hour long hippogriff ride and all of the other nonsense and gone for actual plot... if he'd wanted to.
weasel_queen
February 17th, 2005, 7:31 pm
It wasn't so much a mistake as an oversight on the part of Cuaron, (whom I despise as a director but that's neither here nor there.) but I think that leaving out the fact that Sirius signs Harry's hogsmeade permission slip was a major blunder! How's he going to GO to Hogsmeade? He'll need permission right? We all know the DURSLEYs didn't do it. The book says Sirius Black did it... and if either movie four or five shows Harry in Hogsmeade It'll need to be brought up somehow that Sirius gave him permission as his Godfather.
Maybe they'll show it in the beginning of the next movie. Harry recieves an owl from Sirius, and with the letter, there is a note where Sirius writes that Harry is allowed to go into Hosmeade... Just a suggestion!
i_Love_Ron_9
February 17th, 2005, 7:37 pm
the 1st and 2nd movie mistakes were fairly simple..things that weren't really a big deal..but the 3rd movie mistakes were so OBVIOUS!! there were at least 5 instances that HARRY POTTER didn't even have a SCAR! HOW CAN THAT BE OVERLOOKED?!?!
okay..anyways..:)
i don't really like what cuaron did with PoA. (as i've said many times :) ) the 3rd movie was the only one in the series that could have been exactly as the book. It was epidsodic and it wasn't all that long. I don't think Cuaron was the right director for the job.
However, The Little Princess is one of my favorite movies!!:D
Magical_Me
February 18th, 2005, 10:22 am
he 1st and 2nd movie mistakes were fairly simple..things that weren't really a big deal..but the 3rd movie mistakes were so OBVIOUS!! there were at least 5 instances that HARRY POTTER didn't even have a SCAR! HOW CAN THAT BE OVERLOOKED?!?!
okay..anyways..
Please name at least one of those instances. I sincerely doubt something as large as that would be overlooked.
On another note, I was watching the PoA extras on the DVD (the Australian one has so much more in it!) and I can't get over how much I like Cuaron better. Not just as a director, but every time Columbus was on the screen he was so annoyingly obnoxious and I groaned. I loved seeing Jo and Alfonzo's interview - Jo really admires the man. They had a good relationship, a pity it's been cut short.
Blizzard
February 18th, 2005, 10:50 am
On another note, I was watching the PoA extras on the DVD (the Australian one has so much more in it!) and I can't get over how much I like Cuaron better. Not just as a director, but every time Columbus was on the screen he was so annoyingly obnoxious and I groaned. I loved seeing Jo and Alfonzo's interview - Jo really admires the man. They had a good relationship, a pity it's been cut short.
For some reason, everytime he was on a docu etc. on the Poa Dvd he acted like he had no idea what he was talking about the whole time.
Please name at least one of those instances. I sincerely doubt something as large as that would be overlooked.
I also haven't seen any times in the movie where he is without a scar. I think it might appear like he doesn't have one if their isn't any focus on his forehead. :blush:
Wab
February 18th, 2005, 3:59 pm
It wasn't so much a mistake as an oversight on the part of Cuaron, (whom I despise as a director but that's neither here nor there.) but I think that leaving out the fact that Sirius signs Harry's hogsmeade permission slip was a major blunder!
More likely left out by Kloves with Rowlings approval.
It'll take two seconds for Harry to tell the others that Sirius sent permission during the break.
enthusiast
February 19th, 2005, 5:59 pm
Please forgive me if someone has already stated this, but again and again when I watch the films there are several instances of underage wizardy outside of school that go on that do not result in even the blink of an eye. The most conspicous instances to me are the two different times that Hermione fixes Harry's glasses. The first time was on the train to Hogwarts in the first film and I suppose that it could be argued that they were on their way to school, but the second time was in Diagon Alley in the second film. After J. K. Rowling has been very definte abut there being consequences for under age wizards who do magic outside of school I think that it makes that films discontinuous that those strictures are not upheld. Now, I am talking about the films only as the second instance I mention was different from the book. If I remember correctly in Diagon Alley Mr. Weasley fixes Harry's glasses.
What do others think about how this mistake effects the films?
Sarah
Magical_Me
February 20th, 2005, 12:03 am
This is in another thread, but I'll repeat myself again.
The glasses-fixing incident wasn't illegal in Diagon Alley because there's so much magic being performed everywhere the Ministry wouldn't know what was underage or not. Added to that, there are no Muggles in Diagon Alley, and that's probably the primary reason underage wizards aren't allowed to perform magic.
On the train isn't a mistake either; Hermione fixed the broken glass from the carriage door that Ron slammed shut and shattered. Also, at the end of GoF Crabbe, Goyle and Malfoy all got jinxed. I suspect it's the same reasons as above - there's too much magic going on and there are no Muggles around.
LowKi
February 20th, 2005, 12:05 am
Making them was the first mistake...
enthusiast
February 20th, 2005, 1:05 am
Thank you Magical_Me for your reply, but I do not remember a proviso in the rules about underage magic that it can be done in areas where there are no muggles. One could say that it would be hard to pin point the underage wizard who was breaking the rule there, but technically it would still be breaking the rule. Here is another instance . . . what about the opening scene of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban where Harry is using his wand to read by in his bedroom at the Dursleys? You would surely agree that scene in the film undermines the film because it is not following the rules that the films themselves set out as it is stated from the very beginning that under aged wizards cannot do magic outside of school without consequences.
Sarah
Potter_Head
February 21st, 2005, 2:51 am
Lucius Malfoy works for the Committee for the Disposal of Dangerous Creatures (a subsidiary of the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures.)
Wrongo > at this point and time Lucuis is a governor for the school. He says so when he comes to suspend Dumbledore in Hagrid hut ("all 11 signatures of the school governers...")
Magical_Me
February 21st, 2005, 8:58 am
That's not necessarily a job though, is it? You can be govenor of the school but have another job.
Lucius and Arthur know each other because they both work at the Ministry, and this is early in CoS, before he was kicked off the school board.
Allemande
February 21st, 2005, 6:08 pm
It wasn't so much a mistake as an oversight on the part of Cuaron, (whom I despise as a director but that's neither here nor there.) but I think that leaving out the fact that Sirius signs Harry's hogsmeade permission slip was a major blunder!
Harry spends one second in GoF saying that Sirius sent him a permission note for Hogsmeade, problem solved. In the long run, it does not have any significance to anything that goes on.
And besides, how do we know that there are even going to be any Hogsmeade scenes in the GoF movie?
Mizaru
February 22nd, 2005, 8:30 pm
I don't remember seeing this mentioned, but the running joke of Hermione appearing out of no where kind of bugged me...The time turner woud make her disappear somewhere, unless she, from the 'future' went into the class, sat in her seat, and then turned back time...people should have seen her coming into all of those classes.
(Does this make any sense? I'm kind of medicated now, so I might be rambling).
Blizzard
February 24th, 2005, 7:57 am
I don't remember seeing this mentioned, but the running joke of Hermione appearing out of no where kind of bugged me...The time turner woud make her disappear somewhere, unless she, from the 'future' went into the class, sat in her seat, and then turned back time...people should have seen her coming into all of those classes.
(Does this make any sense? I'm kind of medicated now, so I might be rambling).
I've wondered about that too. I've thought about it millions of times, but I still can't make sense of it.
They probably should have stressed how she was in 2 classes at once instead. They only mentioned it once in the movie. :(
Magical_Me
February 24th, 2005, 10:38 am
I really don't see the problem with it. It raises questions about the Time Turner, and it's more interesting and funnier than her just running to class all puffed out. Besides, the book focused on how stressed she was throughout the year - what with all her subjects, fighting with Ron, guilt about Scabbers and Buckbeak's case. Since these weren't touched on greatly in the film it was fine to have her just appear.
It's just a bit of fun...
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