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Inkwolf
November 26th, 2002, 1:47 am
Okay, there's already a thread about Lucius apparently using the Avada Kadavra...in spite of the fact that it would have sent him to Azkaban for life, and he could hardly use the Imperious curse as an excuse this time....

And da da da da da86 pointed out that Lockhart didn't lose his wand at Snape's Expelliarmus.

But how about that remark Lucius made to Arthur Weasely--"See you at work." Since when did Lucius work at the Ministry? (Or at all. :p I always pegged him as the idle rich.)

Anyone else?

bjackm
November 26th, 2002, 1:54 am
That's cool, I never noticed the Lucius-Arthur-work thing.

It bugged me, and I don't know if this is a mistake, how the Weasley's were the only people that were dirty from using floo powder. I've always thought that Floo powder was one of the more common methods of travel for wizards. But since no one else seemed to be dirty, I don't know.

pasalita
November 26th, 2002, 5:39 am
Ah, the inconsistencies. They're always fun to point out.

One I noticed yesterday: During the scene where Crabbe and Goyle find the floating cupcakes. If one looks really closely to the out-of-focus Harry and Ron in the background, you'll see that those are stand-ins. How? Because the "Ron" stand-in's hair is wavy and parted in the middle. And, well, we know from the scene that cuts back to a close up of Harry and Ron, that Rupert Grint's hair is a straight bowl cut that hangs just level with his eyebrows.

And, can someone tell me: Why has Draco become such a kleptomaniac? First, he randomly rips a page out of a book in Flourish and Blott's, and then he takes that little green gift off of a desk in the Slytherin Common Room (which looked pretty darn cool, if you ask me.)

Oh, and another inconsistency: From the books we know that the plates magically appear with food because of the set up in the kitchens. So, why, during the Christmas feast scene, is Hermoine seen to be going back to her seat as though she's gone to pick up dessert from another place entirely? Albeit to say, I may just be being nit-picky with that one.

Another intersting thing: Hermoine never has to cut-up or prepare the ingrediants when she's making the polyjuice potion. She just seems to pick them up from her potion-ingredient-spice-rack. ;D

Da da da da da86
November 26th, 2002, 6:26 am
About the Hermione getting up for dessert, I find that entirely accurate to the books. You say that the food is magically placed there (and it is) but there's so much that people have to get up once in a while (remember the bouillabaisse scene in GoF with Fleur?)

rotsiepots
November 26th, 2002, 7:35 am
Originally posted by Inkwolf
But how about that remark Lucius made to Arthur Weasely--"See you at work." Since when did Lucius work at the Ministry? (Or at all. :p I always pegged him as the idle rich.)

Anyone else?

Lucius Malfoy does do indirect work for the Ministry; we know he serves on the Committee for the Disposal of Dangerous Creatures so, presumably, he does interact, to a certain extent, with Ministry officials etc.

The inconsistency in Lucius' statement ("See you at work") is that Arthur Weasley and Lucius Malfoy work for different departments in the Ministry. Arthur Weasley is employed in the Misuse of Muggle Artefacts Office (a subsidiary of the Department of Accidental Magic Reversal) whilst Lucius Malfoy works for the Committee for the Disposal of Dangerous Creatures (a subsidiary of the Department for the Regulation and Control of Magical Creatures.) Thus it's unlikely that the two would ever meet up at work...unless they're lunchtime buddies or something like that.

I haven't seen the film yet, so I won't add any additional errors. Come Thursday, I'm sure I'll have plenty.

Elensil
November 27th, 2002, 7:23 am
Arthur Weasley had conducted a series of raids and was raiding the Malfoy's manor as well. If that reference would have been included maybe "See you at work" line would make sense, since Arthur would be visiting him again.

Tarawyn
November 27th, 2002, 7:40 am
On the food aspect--I think that pasalita is right. It you look very closely, it seems that there's some sort of buffet at the front of the room. Getting something from another table is one thing, but that rather defeats the purpose of the food appearing.

I suppose that they would see each other at work. While they work in different departments, probably located far from one another's, and they aren't particularly friendly, I could imagine the two going out of their way to taunt the other. They seem to have that sort of rivalry.

As for the "spice-rack" of potions, it certainly did seem like that, which tossed some of the difficultly to prepare the potion out of the window...they brought it up once, and never again. In fact, Hermione is working on it idly, which a) contradicts her character and b) definetely contradicts the potion being difficult. (On that subject, they cut out the difficulty to get the ingredients...and more of Snape's character.)

Fuchsia
November 27th, 2002, 7:44 am
They might have been the only ones dirty from the fireplace because they haven't cleaned theirs? Though they showed the house being cleaned on its own.....

Elangomatt
November 27th, 2002, 7:57 am
another thing about the Hermione food thing. If I remember the scene correctly, aren't Harry Ron and Hermione sitting apart from everyone since everyone things Harry is the heir of Slythern. There is some food around the trio, but maybe Hermione wanted something that was not place near them by the house elves below, so she had to go down the table and get it.

Also this is a mistake in the filming, not a book vs movie mistake. When Harry and Ron crash into the barrier leading to Platform 9 3/4, Hedwig's cage pops open right after Harry hits, the camera goes to a different angle and suddenly the cage is closed. I noticed this on my own in the movie and confirmed it by looking on IMDB.com.

Filch
November 27th, 2002, 3:10 pm
Originally posted by Elangomatt
another thing about the Hermione food thing. If I remember the scene correctly, aren't Harry Ron and Hermione sitting apart from everyone since everyone things Harry is the heir of Slythern. There is some food around the trio, but maybe Hermione wanted something that was not place near them by the house elves below, so she had to go down the table and get it.

Also this is a mistake in the filming, not a book vs movie mistake. When Harry and Ron crash into the barrier leading to Platform 9 3/4, Hedwig's cage pops open right after Harry hits, the camera goes to a different angle and suddenly the cage is closed. I noticed this on my own in the movie and confirmed it by looking on IMDB.com.

I noticed that one too......

apparently there is 3 pages of mistakes from the movie.....but i think alot of them are nitpicking and some of them are them not looking properly

ronweasleyismyhero
November 28th, 2002, 3:46 am
Originally posted by pasalita

And, can someone tell me: Why has Draco become such a kleptomaniac? First, he randomly rips a page out of a book in Flourish and Blott's, and then he takes that little green gift off of a desk in the Slytherin Common Room (which looked pretty darn cool, if you ask me.)



LOL I know! I thought I was the only one to notice that! I think they used the green gift thing for a distraction so that Malfoy wouldn't notice Ron/Harry changing back. But, the Flourish and Blott's thing was completely random. In the last movie, Mr. Columbus had Seamus as a pyromaniac and he let that go for this movie and replaced it with Draco as a kleptomaniac! Hahah it was rather entertaining though! And I agree, the Slytherin Common Room was very cool! It was also more how I imagined common rooms to be - the Gryffindor Common Room was a bit smaller than I had thought it to be.

AngelinaJ
November 28th, 2002, 6:44 am
About Hermione and the food thing. I don't think that the house elves always keep replenishing food when it runs out? I don't think that happens with the exception of the time in the 2nd book when Ron and Harry had to stay in McGonagall's office and eat sandwiches off a plate that kept filling up. And I don't think that the house elves can put exactly what Hermione wants onto the plate. (Remember that the kids don't know that house elves are cooking for them.) I don't think it's a mistake.

Jagged
November 28th, 2002, 10:13 am
With regards to Lucius's comment about seeing Arthur at work, I got the impression Malfoy was partly afraid of being raided by the Ministry, and as such, would see Arthur at work. Of course, that was the reason he was in Knockturn Alley in the book - to dispose of incriminating evidence.

Cookie
November 28th, 2002, 11:14 am
I think Luicous Malfoy does work at the ministry of magic - we always hear Draco (sp?) gloating about how influenical his dad is, he's probably a politican as any other kind of work would be 'servant's work'.

WatsonFan11
December 1st, 2002, 5:42 pm
I agree!

You-Know-Who
December 1st, 2002, 8:22 pm
Another mistake was Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts, which is against the law.

Phoenix ignitioN
December 1st, 2002, 8:27 pm
Slytherins don't have Herbology with Gryffindors. Gryffindors have it with Hufflepuffs. :)

...I found that all by myself. Hehe.

Knight
December 1st, 2002, 9:10 pm
Originally posted by You-Know-Who
Another mistake was Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts, which is against the law.

But she was in Diagon Alley, so I don't think it's such a big deal. Besides it was just to fix Harry's glasses so I don't think anyone would raise much of a fuss.

hedwigs_keeper
December 1st, 2002, 9:55 pm
Originally posted by Phoenix ignitioN
Slytherins don't have Herbology with Gryffindors. Gryffindors have it with Hufflepuffs. :)

...I found that all by myself. Hehe.

That's a good one! I did think having the Mandrake bite Draco was a nice touch though...

As for Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts...I don't think she broke any rules, being as she was in Diagon Alley where there are no muggles. I think that rule may only apply to the muggle world, so they don't find out about the wizarding world.

You-Know-Who
December 2nd, 2002, 7:26 am
Originally posted by Knight
But she was in Diagon Alley, so I don't think it's such a big deal. Besides it was just to fix Harry's glasses so I don't think anyone would raise much of a fuss.

Originally posted by hedwigs_keeper
As for Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts...I don't think she broke any rules, being as she was in Diagon Alley where there are no muggles. I think that rule may only apply to the muggle world, so they don't find out about the wizarding world.

Let me quote from the book(Harry Potter and the chamber of Secrets, Bloomsbury, page 21:

Dear Mr.Potter
....
As you know, underage wizards are not permitted to perform spells outside school¹, and further spellwork on your part may lead to expulsion from said school (Decree for the Reasonable Restriction of Underage sorcery, 1875, Paragraph C)

(I didn't quote the entire thing)

¹ Outside School, thus meaning everything outside of Hogwarts. Now, last time I checked Diagon Alley is not a part of Hogwarts. So Hermione repairing Harry's glasses is against law, thus making it illegal and a mistake.


(I'm stubborn I know)

HPButterfly
December 2nd, 2002, 7:48 am
LOL! Man, we are nitpicky! Do yall go to moviemistakes.com? There's a whole load about cos on there already, but lots of them are really stupid, like just things related to editting and things... The first one I noticed by myself though was in that last scene in Dumbledore's office and Lucius storms in... His hair is back and you can see his real (black) hairline around the bottom of his neck. LOL. Then the part where Errol flies in with the Howler: when Errol flies away his string hits Hermione right in the face... hee hee... Then the part where Harry and Ron are rollin around in the car after they found the train: Hedwig stays nicely on her perch throughout the whole rollover thing...

But I never thought about the Lucius "see you at work" thing. Hi five to whoever noted that! Cuz he's a school governor, then gets sacked, and then just goes with the committee of disposal whatever whatever cuz he's the one who lodged the complaint about Buckbeak. At least that's what I understand. *Whew* Sorry I'm so longwinded...

rotsiepots
December 3rd, 2002, 1:13 pm
I remembered another book/movie inconsistency when I was re-watching CoS on Sunday. In the book, it's quite clearly stated that Aragog is blind, through the milky white appearance of his eight googly eyes. In the film, however, Aragog doesn't seem to be blind as a close-up on his eyes reveals that they're just black.

Just a thought.

Justin Etre
December 3rd, 2002, 1:29 pm
Lucius Malfoy is on the governers comittee, isn't he? For proof see PoA, when Lucius said 'all the OTHER GOVERNERS had a signed a form to get Dumbledore suspended'. 'The others' implies that he is one of them.

revz
December 3rd, 2002, 5:01 pm
Lucius Malfoy works as a School Governor for Hogwarts as well as a part in the Ministry of magic...

floo powder is not a common mode of travel for wizards... it is only for poor wizards... if you read the book -COS-, the explanation is right there....

I don't really think both were movie mistakes.... I movie mistake would be like the string used to pull "Errol" to make him fly off the table... it was so visible.... everyone noticed....

You-Know-Who
December 4th, 2002, 6:58 am
I'm not certain about this mistake and it's probably already mentioned in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone mistakes.


But isn't Petunia supposed to be blonde? it's on the first page of the first book.

Or does blonde means something else, I'm not familiar with?

dumbleedore
December 4th, 2002, 11:20 am
The one thing I spotted was the cast on Emma's arm when they take the Polyjuice potion.

Am I the only one who enjoyed the bit where Hermione fixed his glasses? They did it to tie in with the first movie. The first time we met Hermione was when she fixed Harry's glasses, so it was a re-intoduction. Besides, it was cute!

Inkwolf
December 4th, 2002, 1:43 pm
You-Know-Who, I'm sure they did it to avoid stereotyping blonds as villains in the films. :) When you think about it, every person described as blond in the books is a baddie: the Dursleys, the Malfoys, Lockhart, Rita Skeeter, Millicent Bulstrode, Barty Jr.....

Either JKR doesn't like blondes or she's fighting against the Disney black-haired-villains stereotype. :D

periwinkle-blue
December 4th, 2002, 2:16 pm
i was wondering, (since the last time i've watched CoS was two weeks ago, so my memory might be lacking a bit).. the part when harry found justin finch-fletchly (er.. is my spelling correct?) and nearly headless nick petrified, could anyone tell me whether harry heard the basilisk prior to the time he found both petrified student and ghost?

'cause i remembered the scene in the hall when they apparently were doing some homework, ginny weasley was there in the hall with the other students. (the hall scene here was the scene after ron and hermione told harry he was a parseltongue). as harry felt uncomfortable with the accusing stares and wicked glances, he told ron and hermione he wanted to go back to the common room, i think. on the way, he found the petrifieds..

the thing which is bugging me.. did he heard the basilisk after he went out of the hall? because if he did, ginny (who was in the hall) must have run very fast, and invisible, past harry and summoned the basilisk.

er.. i can't remember.. maybe my memory wasn't good as it used to.. ;)

You-Know-Who
December 4th, 2002, 3:50 pm
Originally posted by Inkwolf
You-Know-Who, I'm sure they did it to avoid stereotyping blonds as villains in the films. :) When you think about it, every person described as blond in the books is a baddie: the Dursleys, the Malfoys, Lockhart, Rita Skeeter, Millicent Bulstrode, Barty Jr.....

Either JKR doesn't like blondes or she's fighting against the Disney black-haired-villains stereotype. :D

:lol: I never noticed the blonde villains, thanks for explaining :)

revz
December 4th, 2002, 6:42 pm
about the scene where Harry finds Justin petrified... well.... when Prof. Mcgonagall arrives.... uhm, where did nearly headless nick go.... U should atleast see a part of him behind the professor... but he's not there....

hpangel102
December 4th, 2002, 8:20 pm
Am I the only one who noticed that Harry goesd to Hogwarts on his birthday in both movies? Harry's birthday is on July 31. Hogwarts term starts September 1. In the first movie, Hagrid gets him from the hut on the rock, and takes him school shopping. Right after, he gets on the train to Hogwarts; a month early. In the second movie, he goes to the Weasley's on his birthday, and then they go to Diagon Alley, and then straight to Hogwarts again. On his birthday. A month early...... In the books it talks about him going back and being with the Weasleys and Dursleys....

Also, I know there was laughter going around from the first movie when Hermione goes off the the left dormatory, when Percy, specifies that Girls dormatories were on the right, and boys were to the left. Well in the second movie, the boys dormatories are still on the right, and the girls were on the left. Perhaps Percy just said his line wrong in the first movie, and they didnt fix it?

You-Know-Who
December 5th, 2002, 7:01 am
I did notice that hpangel102

I was a bit pissed on that one, they're implying that Hogwarts starts on July the 31st and not September the 1st.

dumbleedore
December 5th, 2002, 9:26 am
We don't know how long he stayed at the Weasleys for in the movie. It could have been a week after the letters arrived that they went to Diagon Alley and then had more time at the burrow.

The movie can't show everything you know.

Inkwolf
December 5th, 2002, 2:16 pm
Originally posted by You-Know-Who
I did notice that hpangel102

I was a bit pissed on that one, they're implying that Hogwarts starts on July the 31st and not September the 1st.

Or they moved his birthday to August 31....

Lavendar Brown
December 5th, 2002, 5:19 pm
As my friend and I sat in Chamber of Secrets, we had a little competition going to see who could find the biggest nitpick. Here are a few we found, but these are unchecked, so let me know if they are correct...

If I remember correctly, the Gryffindors had Herbology with the Hufflepuffs, NOT the Slytherins. In Herbology, Draco gets bit by a mandrake.

Justin Finch-Fletchley is shown wearing gryffindor robes, I THINK...not sure on this one. But anyway, we all know he is a Hufflepuff.

Harry, Ron, and Hermione see the spiders very early on in the school year...in the book I don't think they noticed them until after Nearly Headless Nick's deathday party, which happened on Halloween, much later on in the year.

Not really a nitpick, but I definitely noticed when Lucius began to say the Avada Kedavra curse. However, he would not be sent to Azkaban for what he did, because he did not really perform the curse, he was stopped halfway through.

Again, let me know if these are incorrect!

Llopin
December 10th, 2002, 6:45 pm
The Rictusempra mistake... it is supposed to make people laugh (rictu in latin means laugh, btw) and in the movie it seems like a combat spell..
also when harry finds norris it is supposed to be halloween, but they dont show it.
Also, why didnt Lockhart announce that he was going to be DADA teacher in Flourish and Blotts?
Penelope Clearwater! Why didn't they show her! It would be funny... and the Percy's secret thing... didn't show it neither
in the movie how does the sorting hat appear the sword isn't explained...

hpangel102
December 10th, 2002, 10:10 pm
Originally posted by dumbleedore
We don't know how long he stayed at the Weasleys for in the movie. It could have been a week after the letters arrived that they went to Diagon Alley and then had more time at the burrow.

The movie can't show everything you know.

Yes, but it does show as soon as they get the letters they go and go to the fireplace to go to Diagon Alley. Then it shows them going straight to the train station. They still should ahve clarified that in at least one of the movies.

I'm not sure and I might be wrong, but did Hermione go home with the Weasleys after going shopping in Diagon Alley??

daniel4hp
December 11th, 2002, 1:39 am
I pretty sure Hermione didn't go home with the Weaslies in the book, but I might be wrong...

If I remember correctly, the Gryffindors had Herbology with the Hufflepuffs, NOT the Slytherins. In Herbology, Draco gets bit by a mandrake.
This is one thing that annoyed me about both movies--it seems that all the classes are held with all the houses, while in the books it explicitly states that some are with two houses, and implies that many are each house by itself. I suppose they like having bigger classes in the movies... it is annoying though.

Harry, Ron, and Hermione see the spiders very early on in the school year...in the book I don't think they noticed them until after Nearly Headless Nick's deathday party, which happened on Halloween, much later on in the year.
Wasn't the first time they noticed them in the movie when Mrs. Norris was petrified? That would put it at Halloween, despite the detention. They have to condense in the movie, and this meant combining the detention, which was near the beginning, with Mrs. Norris being petrified, which was at Halloween. I think they did it fine, since the occassion for noticing the spiders was basically the same, I think. Certain things have to be done in films...

Qeomash
December 28th, 2002, 3:25 pm
Anyone else notice any mistakes in CoS? Any true mistakes, or stark contradictions to the book's events? Post them here!

1. Just as Gryffindor is heading out to play their match with Huflepuff, McGonnagall comes down and says its cancled. If you look out on the pitch, you can see several Gryffindors flying around--yet the whole team is standing there talking to Minerva!

2. According to the book, the tap that is the entrace to the chanber doesn't work. Yet, in the movie, when Myrtle floods the bathroom, all the taps are running.

coldneo
December 28th, 2002, 3:37 pm
In the movie, Hermoine asks Prof. Mc Gonagell abt the chamber of secrets. But in the book , they ask Prof. Binns during History of Magic , NOT Tranfiguration.:p :p :p

Llopin
December 28th, 2002, 4:39 pm
Lockhart announces he's going to be DADA teacher in Flourish & Botts in the book, but in the movie we don't know it until he appears in the DADA class.

Springy
December 28th, 2002, 5:06 pm
In the movie, Hermione cries, but in the book she doesn't.
In the movie, Hermione knows what a Mudblood is, in the book she doesn't.

Here are some MOVIE mistakes though!! HEHE

When Harry takes the sword and looked at it, he first holds it with the handle facing down. In another shot, the sword is the other way round with the handle now facing the sky!!!

When Harry takes a handful of the floo powder we can see the top level of the powder is flat and undisturbed. It should be disturbed, as only moments before the shot Ron took a handful.

When Harry Ron & Hermione are at the end of year feast, Hagrid bursts into the hall leaving the door open behind him. Then, when all the children are around him the doors are closed. In the next shot, they have opened again.

As Harry looks at his photo album from Hagrid, there's a shot of him, Ron and Hermione that's supposed to have been taken the year before. By the change of Hermione's hair, it was obviously taken during the current time frame - wizard photos have the subjects moving, but they shouldn't have aged.

As Hagrid and Harry are walking away from Knockturn Alley, look closely in one of the shop windows in the background - there's the entire set of the Harry Potter books.

Check the bathroom part when Ron and Hermoine are going to puke after drinking the polygon juice. Ron goes in the first one yet comes out of the one beside Hermoine on the far side.

During the filming of The Chamber of Secrets, Emma Watson broke her wrist. When Harry, Ron, and Hermione are drinking the polyjuice potion, you can see the cast on Emma's wrist sticking out of her robes.

When Harry first meets Dobby in his room, he sits on the end of his bed to talk to Dobby. The green ball (used as a guide for Daniel Radcliffe to follow so a computer animated character can be added later) is clearly reflecting in his glasses.

All of these, apart from the first one about the sword was from www.moviemistakes.com . Check it out. Brilliant once there. Over 130 mistakes so far spotted!!!

Slytherin_Chick
December 28th, 2002, 6:08 pm
um these comparisons to the book shouldn't count.. as u know they cut out alot and had to ulter stuff.. so most of these aren't mistakes!!!:p :) ;)

rotsiepots
December 29th, 2002, 9:38 am
I think a relatively thorough list of movies mistakes has already been compiled here (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2880).

They really can't seem to get it right, can they? ;)

Qeomash
December 29th, 2002, 3:27 pm
I thought that thread was mostly Book to Movie mistakes. I meant this one to be actual filming mistakes (eg the doors opening and closing, the ball on the stick.)

I should have made that clearer.

GryffndorBeater
December 30th, 2002, 2:01 am
I noticed that during the chene where Harry's stabbing the journal all that light is shining right in his eyes, but his pupils stay the same size as they were when he was running around in the dark. I guess Daniel Radcliffe's eyes defy the laws of optometry...

samwise2
December 30th, 2002, 2:34 am
you know what reaily get my back is how people spend so much time looking for mistake in a movies, it make me think that they can't have watch the movie for what it is that is a good story to enterain not for people to pick to bits. i mean it can't be aesy to make a movie amnd to remenber everything that goes on

Slytherin_Chick
December 30th, 2002, 2:48 am
most people...who have ALREADY seen the movies...would look for mistakes because it's fun.. like i look for mistakes when i have already seen the movie, but i go with my friends a second time.. then i don't need to "enjoy it for what it is" because i've already done that....also, some mistakes are hard to uh, look around

girl_wizardry
December 30th, 2002, 6:40 am
The scene which involves Harry and Tom Riddle's diary, Harry wrote "Can you tell me?" and Tom goes "No...But i can show you." den sparks of light came out from the diary. I can't help but notice that Harry actually brought the diary closer to his face when the light is already shining so strongly...i even had to squint my eyes cos of the light...but Harry doesn't. Hmmm....his eyes are indeed, one of a kind.

OrioCookie
December 30th, 2002, 6:34 pm
I got this from http://www.slip-ups.com

In the beginning you hear flapping from the owls' wings. At the end you hear a WHOOSH from the lone owl. Owl wings are near silent and do not make flapping sounds.

This is for one of the trailers though.

Alorra Spinnet
December 30th, 2002, 9:46 pm
1. Just as Gryffindor is heading out to play their match with Huflepuff, McGonnagall comes down and says its cancled. If you look out on the pitch, you can see several Gryffindors flying around--yet the whole team is standing there talking to Minerva!

Those aren't Gryffindors flying in the background. Those are the Hufflepuff players, their robes are all yellow not red.

I have to admit I wondered why all the taps were runnng too. Ah well, it's the little things that either seriously annoy or are easy to pass off depending on your viewpoint. ;)

Tinkie
December 30th, 2002, 10:17 pm
well, as others have said, in the book Hermione does not know what Mudblood means , whereas in the movie she does.
And in the book it is Professor Binns that tells them about the chamber.
so, nothing new from me...

dumbleedore
January 3rd, 2003, 10:24 am
I don't know if this can be counted as a mistake...

Riddle tells Harry he had little more than a minute to live. Harry actually lives for 1 1/2 minutes longer than what Riddle said... I timed it...

That's just sad...

owl post 1992
January 4th, 2003, 12:47 am
When Harry first meets Dobby in his room, he sits on the end of his bed to talk to Dobby. The green ball (used as a guide for Daniel Radcliffe to follow so a computer animated character can be added later) is clearly reflecting in his glasses.

I looked really closely at Harry's/Dan's eyes each time Dobby was on and did not see any green on his face any where let alone his glasses since they sent the entire film without lens

The scene which involves Harry and Tom Riddle's diary, Harry wrote "Can you tell me?" and Tom goes "No...But i can show you." den sparks of light came out from the diary. I can't help but notice that Harry actually brought the diary closer to his face when the light is already shining so strongly...i even had to squint my eyes cos of the light...but Harry doesn't. Hmmm....his eyes are indeed, one of a kind.

actually harry's eyes are diluted to there smallest so the least amount of light would filter through:sorry: :sorry:

dumbleedore
January 4th, 2003, 10:34 am
I spotted a book-movie difference today, but, I can't remember what it was... when I see it again i'll remember...

Renae
January 12th, 2003, 6:41 pm
:yawn: it's late
sure, there a few things which've been changed (that stuff with who hermione asked about the chamber..)
But there's one thing, I realy don't get..
I figured out the second part takes place in 1992 (Nearly headless nick died 1492, 500 years before his party in the dungeons..) but the train at kings cross (at the muggle station, not on plattform 9 3/4) seems to be from 2002.. just look at it..
It's the same problem in the book... Nearly headless Nick told Harry in the first part he hadn'd eaten since 400 years ago.. and is celebrating his 500th day of death in the next year.. (what did he do the first 100 years.. did he eat??)
You can also get the age of Lord Voldemort and Hagrid.. In the first part they are 69 and 65... (look at the second part a little closer..) :D

Tarawyn
January 12th, 2003, 6:46 pm
As rotsiepots noted, there's a second thread on this, so I'll merge them.

1MelissaPotter
January 22nd, 2003, 5:11 pm
10 Arial deeppink

I found a mistake in the movie..
When Hagrid is telling Harry About Voldemort it shows Harry as a baby, but the baby has blue eyes and Harry has green eyes!
:love:

Ashkins
January 22nd, 2003, 5:39 pm
Very few babies have green eyes when they are born. They normally change in the first year of life.

And I wouldn't take anything said in the movie as fact when it comes to the little things.

HogwartsChaplain
January 22nd, 2003, 6:34 pm
Harry is supposed to be 15 months old in that scene, so his eyes may or may not have changed to green by that age.

However, Daniel Radcliffe isn't able to wear green contact lenses, so his eyes appear blue in the movie.

I'll move this thread to Muggle Media, where the books' adaptation into movies is discussed. ;)

Lupus
January 22nd, 2003, 6:43 pm
I wouldn't worry about it, the film is far from perfect anyway so eye colour isn't going to make a lot of difference.

Babies usually have dark blue/blacky brown eyes when born. The colour usually changes after one-two years.

Skyfang
January 22nd, 2003, 8:38 pm
Din't notice that, going to watch it right now ;)

Mrsfredweasley226
January 23rd, 2003, 12:13 am
I didn't notice it either but thats worth taking another look :) i could watch that movie forever!

tizzy weasley
January 23rd, 2003, 12:39 am
i noticed but i thought they had a blue eyed harry because dan eyes were blue.

dumbleedore
January 23rd, 2003, 1:59 am
Dan tried to wear the green contacts, but he had a reaction to them or something. Then they considered digatilly altering them, but it would cost to much and take to much time, so they left his eyes as blue.

Da da da da da86
January 23rd, 2003, 2:07 am
It costs too much? Come ON! They completely digitized Fluffy, Norbert, and countless other things. I cannot believe that they would give us that excuse... Grrr...

Lupus
January 23rd, 2003, 2:09 am
Originally posted by Da da da da da86
It costs too much? Come ON! They completely digitized Fluffy, Norbert, and countless other things. I cannot believe that they would give us that excuse... Grrr...

They were probably only just in budget. The eye thing would've been an additional cost. Think about it, they would have to go over every single frame Dan is in and change his eye colour. Could you imagine how long that would take to do? Not to mention computer animators etc require a wage ;)

Da da da da da86
January 23rd, 2003, 2:21 am
Originally posted by Lupus
They were probably only just in budget. The eye thing would've been an additional cost. Think about it, they would have to go over every single frame Dan is in and change his eye colour. Could you imagine how long that would take to do? Not to mention computer animators etc require a wage ;)

Going over the budget probably wouldn't be that much of a big deal.. not with such a sure box-office smash. An honestly, most scenes aren't bright enough to require a change. And even if there were a change, it's certainly not as big as a three headed dog... Whatever. I guess they couldn't be bothered with one of the most important parts of Harry's appearance... Oh well.

Lupus
January 23rd, 2003, 2:24 am
True I guess, but at the end of the day. Harry's eyes aren't green, Dudley's hair isn't blonde and the films are far from perfect. Stick to the books, you can't go far wrong there! ;)

owl post 1992
January 25th, 2003, 11:03 pm
Well when Liliy is fighting off Voldemort she doesn't have a wand to fight him off with

dumbleedore
January 26th, 2003, 9:35 am
Another thing with changing Dan's eyes with the computer, it would have be hard to get the right colour for the lighting. As it is his eyes turn green in different lights (all blue eyes do). It would have been a waste of time.

Besides, if the eye colour was important to the plot, JK would have said that they had to be green.

Sebastian06
February 25th, 2003, 9:27 pm
Ok, I did a search on this, and couldn't find it being mentioned in a thread, so if this has already been brought up, forgive me. In CoS, did anyone else notice how, after Emma "repaired" Dan's glasses, that the lenses in them just vanished instead of being fixed? After that, they come back for some scenes, and then disappear again. It's so obvious too, I don't know why Columbus or one of the people on the set didn't just put the lenses back in the frames. Did they think no one would notice? Because it's not exactly hard to miss, lol. :??:

Qeomash
February 25th, 2003, 10:20 pm
I didn't think that they disappeared. They weren't there to begin with, the cracks were just CG--though I could be wrong.

One reason they didn't use lenses in all scenes was lighting. Glasses (anything reflective, really) is a big pain to shoot with.

Knight
February 25th, 2003, 10:42 pm
I don't think it was "obvious", though I don't usually notice mistakes in movies unless I am specifically watching for them.

MadMagic
February 25th, 2003, 10:50 pm
Yeah, thats definately not something that I noticed. When I read all of the mistakes in movies, I really think that I must be the most unobservant person in the world. But when I am watching a movie I think I just tend to concentrate on whats going on rather than focusing on details about the movie. If it was as blatant as you say it was, I really hope that I would have noticed.

1MelissaPotter
February 26th, 2003, 12:19 am
Since Dan really doesn't need them they probably just fell out and they didn't put them back or something. And also what Qeomash said that anythign reflective is hard to shoot with lighting. So scenes that used a different type of light may have allowed them to use the lenses becuase they wouln't reflect the light.

Sebastian06
February 26th, 2003, 12:20 am
Originally posted by Qeomash (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=189376#post189376))
I didn't think that they disappeared. They weren't there to begin with, the cracks were just CG--though I could be wrong.


No, the lenses were definitely there to begin with; light and objects were reflected off of them in the scenes that they were in, and I doubt that CG would be used to simulate that when they could just use real lenses. It's just that for many scenes, the lenses were gone, that's all.

Sebastian06
February 26th, 2003, 3:45 am
I'm watching the movie again, and (now that I'm looking intensly for them), I can see the lenses when Dan changes direction (the reflections of the lighting). However, those lenses must be extremely thin, because you have to look really closely to see them.

So yeah, my mistake. :)

Rizzoku
March 1st, 2003, 8:41 pm
It's not a very huge mistake just on the actresses's part. I haven't seen this one anywhere but from watching it a dozen times I caught it. They are at the Zoo and Dudley falls into the water. Petunia and Vernon Dursley run over and then vernon talks to Harry, In th background instead of her saying "Dudley, Dudley!" she instead says: "Dursley Dursley" I dunno maybe they call eachother by their last names? But I think she just got Dursley and Dudley mixed up.

Mireille
March 1st, 2003, 8:57 pm
Hmm, I thought she said Dudley.

lanifiel
March 1st, 2003, 9:00 pm
I'm merging this thread with another that has to do with mistakes from the first movie...

Lord_Chatterley
March 1st, 2003, 10:18 pm
It's not a mistake so important...

Sredni Vashtar
March 2nd, 2003, 12:33 am
All films are a gamble, so there is no "sure-fire" hit, no matter what the subject matter. Peter Jackson took a huge risk in making all three movies in the Lord of the Rings series. It was a gigantic leap of faith that yielded the results everyone involved was hoping for, but it just as easily have bombed. As far as the adaptation of Harry Potter, they had no idea it was going to be a hit, in spite of the book's bestseller status. They were taking a risk, just as any other filmmakers would do.

That said, I have worked with video and animation production people, and it takes more than just "digitally altering" eyes. You do have to go frame by frame to change every single instance of Dan's appearance in the film. Considering there are thousands of feet and several reels of film to look at, even with an animatic (which is used a lot in animation these days), the cost would be prohibitive. In retrospect, we all know they would have made all that money back, but at the time they were under huge time and money constraints. By the way, the company I worked for was a very small one, but we still charged $15,000 per day to create computer animation. Imagine what a place like ILM charges. I guarantee it is a lot more than that!

If you notice, the visual effects for this franchise are getting much better with each progressive film. The first film has some glaringly awful CGI. The second film has much better CGI. I'm sure Prisoner of Azkaban will be even more spectacular, because the filmmakers have more money to create the visuals. But even so, it is really too late to start digitizing green eyes for Dan. They have to keep the continuity going, even if it means some fans are going to be upset about the color change. It's a small change, but you can be sure lots of people would notice and be bothered by it.

Aldawen
March 2nd, 2003, 12:55 am
I've heard that J.K. said that it is very important to the plot that harry has his mother's eyes, so it doesn't make sense that they couldn't do anything to change the actor's eye color. But, if you stick to the books, you never have to worry about that! The books are SOOO much better than the movies.

basilisk
March 2nd, 2003, 2:55 am
I don't know if there is a post like this if there was ignore this one.

But since when in SS(PS) was Harry supposed to open his nimbus at the table? Because in the book it has a note that says do not open it at the table but to open it in the common room.:??: :??:

Picko
March 2nd, 2003, 4:48 am
Well thats not a mistake, thats more a change in the screenplay and was intentionally done.

WhiteSlash
April 19th, 2003, 4:11 am
In the COS Hermione says, 'Finte Incantertum(sp?)' at the bludger when it's about to hit Harry again. Well, Finte Incantertum is what Snape uses in the book to end the spells Harry and Draco used in the dueling club. I pretty sure it mean final spell. Why would you need to use that to blow up a bludger?

Also, when Tom Riddle calls the basillk(sp?) he only says, "Come to me Slytherin." In the book it says, "Come to me Slytherin, greatest of the Hogwarts four."

Jessie
April 19th, 2003, 5:56 am
What about hermione's 'Lacarnum Inflamorae' spell or something?? She used it to burn Snape's cape. Don't think she was supposed to use that one...or am I wrong??

Sebastian06
April 19th, 2003, 6:23 am
Originally posted by Meli (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=274334#post274334))
Also, when Tom Riddle calls the basillk(sp?) he only says, "Come to me Slytherin." In the book it says, "Come to me Slytherin, greatest of the Hogwarts four."


How can you tell, lol? He's speaking in Parseltongue.

Padfoot127
April 19th, 2003, 11:37 pm
Lucious worked at the Ministry, he was a School Governer, but not anymore, right?

WhiteSlash
April 20th, 2003, 12:06 am
Originally posted by Sebastian06 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=274606#post274606))
How can you tell, lol? He's speaking in Parseltongue.


I have my ways.:smile:

Puffskein
April 20th, 2003, 6:05 pm
You could call it a mistake when Harry talked to the snake in the zoo in plain English, when it would really have sounded like Parseltongue to anyone else. But obviously they did that to avoid confusing the hell out of people who hadn't read COS.

Sredni Vashtar
April 20th, 2003, 7:55 pm
Originally posted by Inkwolf (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=74120#post74120))


But how about that remark Lucius made to Arthur Weasely--"See you at work." Since when did Lucius work at the Ministry? (Or at all. :p I always pegged him as the idle rich.)




I thought about this when I saw the film the first time and came up with a pretty good answer. I don't think he meant it in a cow-orker kind of way. It was a threat. "I'll see you at work", meaning he's watching Weasley's every move, just hoping to find something to pin on him the way Arthur was hoping to pin something on Lucius.

Just a thought.

WhiteSlash
April 20th, 2003, 9:54 pm
Doesn't Mr Malfoy work at the ministry too? I can be wrong.

With the parseltounge thing, no one even heard him hissing in the book and it didn't say that he was. We don't find out till the 2 book.

You can just tell that Tom only said that. He said hiss hiss Slytherin. In the book it's hiss hiss Slytherin hiss hiss hiss hiss.

Alorra Spinnet
April 20th, 2003, 11:05 pm
Malfoy was one of the school govenors. So I guess he might work in the same building or something.
At the start of COS when Harry is telling Hedwig he can't let her out, it looks the key is in the lock! :rolleyes:

remo
April 21st, 2003, 1:00 am
Harry is supposed to be 15 months old in that scene, so his eyes may or may not have changed to green by that age.
This has always bothered me. If Harry was supposed to be 15 months old when his parents died then why does DD say "Famous before he can walk and talk'? Most babies start walking before their first birthday or shortly after. Your average child is definantly walking by 15 montns. And the baby Harry they use in the movie is not a 15 month old child.

symplet
April 21st, 2003, 2:57 am
Originally posted by Alorra Spinnet (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=278143#post278143))
At the start of COS when Harry is telling Hedwig he can't let her out, it looks the key is in the lock! :rolleyes:

But he's saying that in the sense that he'll get in trouble if he let's her out of her cage, not like "I don't know a way to let you out"

Jedi Potter
April 21st, 2003, 4:27 am
Yeah that is what I though I am sure he could have but Vernon would have had a fit. About Lucius I think the work line meant the raids, I think he knew that Arthur would be paying him a visit soon so that is what that line meant, I thought it was kind of cool.

rotsiepots
April 21st, 2003, 4:41 am
Originally posted by remo (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=278436#post278436))
This has always bothered me. If Harry was supposed to be 15 months old when his parents died then why does DD say "Famous before he can walk and talk'? Most babies start walking before their first birthday or shortly after. Your average child is definantly walking by 15 montns. And the baby Harry they use in the movie is not a 15 month old child.


Technically speaking, the average baby starts walking at 13 months, although this can range from 9 months to 18 months.

It's quite possible that Harry wouldn't have been walking at 15 months.

Alorra Spinnet
April 21st, 2003, 10:05 pm
Originally posted by symplet (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=278671#post278671))
But he's saying that in the sense that he'll get in trouble if he let's her out of her cage, not like "I don't know a way to let you out"


Right after he says he can't let her out, he goes on to say he is not allowed to use magic outside of school. Meaning, like in the book, that he would need to use magic to let her out since Vernon supposedly has the key.
I think maybe they just wanted easy access to Ook if he got to upset, but it looks odd.:)

kadede
April 21st, 2003, 11:55 pm
Riddle in the diary is a memory of 50 yrs ago. So did anyone ever wonder how he can know about Harry and how Harry bested Voldemort - something that happens 40 yrs later ?

Filius Flitwick
April 21st, 2003, 11:56 pm
I think this was already answered in this thread or somewhere else. Ginny told the diary about Harry and his defeat of Voldemort. That is how the memory knew about it.

Alison
April 22nd, 2003, 12:34 am
About Malfoy working at the MOM. It's quite possible that he does, but I don't think those boards and committees are his job. I think they would be elected positions- probably no salary though maybe an honourarium. Come to think of it, I don't think Ministry employees would really be eligible for those positions, but I forget who else holds them, so I could be wrong. In the movies the "see you at work" sort of paralleled Draco's "see you at school". It's not nessecarily true to the book, though who knows.

Filius Flitwick
April 22nd, 2003, 12:37 am
Yeah, I always just figured that the school board had their offices at the MoM...therefore they would see eachother.

black&potter
April 22nd, 2003, 2:39 am
one mistake i noticed that i dont think too many have is the cake that Dobby drops all over the Dursleys guest was suppose to be pudding

also when Crabbe and Goyle eat the floating cakes the Ron in the background has differently parted hair (must be a stand in)

Filius Flitwick
April 22nd, 2003, 2:57 am
For the pudding one...that actually was pudding. Look at the residue it leaves, that is pudding residue. Just because it is shaped like a cake doesn't mean that it isn't pudding.

Alorra Spinnet
April 22nd, 2003, 10:25 pm
Actually, after reading the Britsh versions, I think that "pudding" is the British form of "desert".

WhiteSlash
April 22nd, 2003, 10:27 pm
It means something like that. Like black and white pudding is blood sauage and some other pig thing. Pudding means like 5 different things.

Sebastian06
May 8th, 2003, 1:26 am
...I just watched the basilisk scene in CoS, and I noticed that when Harry hits one of the basilisk's teeth, it snaps out and swings backward into it's mouth...was this supposed to happen or was it a mistake? :??:

Alorra Spinnet
May 8th, 2003, 1:35 am
I remember reading somewhere that Daniel kept knocking the teeth out of the Basilisk's head with the sword. We know that one was supposed to come out, but I guess a few of them weren't in there too well. ;)

mrscoach
May 8th, 2003, 4:45 am
I read the same thing - Daniel was saying they had to keep stopping and fixing the Basilisk teeth because he kept knocking them out, so it took a long time to shoot that sequence. It probably had something to do with that.

Lord_Chatterley
May 8th, 2003, 11:02 pm
But wasn't the basilisk created in CGI?

Alorra Spinnet
May 8th, 2003, 11:44 pm
Anytime the whole Basilisk was moving it was CGI. Very well done too. :)
For close-ups it was an animatronic head, probably attatched to a crane or something. The close-up movement looked kind of clunky to me, the head was just kind of pushing at Daniel or his stunt double, whichever. :rolleyes:

Hermione
May 9th, 2003, 3:17 am
I hadn't really noticed that, I'll have to look more closely next time I watch it.

hermione13
May 9th, 2003, 11:44 am
i didn't notice that before.

saz
May 9th, 2003, 11:49 am
I read or heard somewhere that they built 25feet of the Basilisk(by the way does nebody know how many centimetres/meters that is?) Only one of the teeth had to come out so maybe the others could have been permantely attached.

mrscoach
May 10th, 2003, 6:53 pm
I read (or saw, can't remember) an interview with Daniel where he was saying the Basilisk in the book was supposed to be 80 feet long, and that they built about 20 feet of it for the movie. I'm pretty sure that's the same interview where he said he kept knocking the teeth out.

rotsiepots
May 11th, 2003, 1:51 am
I'm going to merge this thread with an existing topic entitled Movie Mistakes (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6418).

:)

go_anna40
May 11th, 2003, 6:49 am
This is SS/PS, but I'll post it anyway.
Well, at the start of SS/PS, Dumbledore is there with McGonagall, with Harry. He's got the white hair, long beard etc.
Ten years later...TA DA!!! He doesn't look a day older...weird huh?
I really need his beauty secrets :p

Llopin
May 11th, 2003, 8:17 am
I think he has two or three more wrinkles in CoS ;)

But in the flashback in CoS, he doesn't really look younger, just that his hair beard aren't so long.

herms_granger
May 11th, 2003, 4:12 pm
I was watching cos at my dentists yesterday*shudders* and they were at the part ware Harry Hermione and Ron were drinking the polyjuice potion, and I noticed that when harry drops the glass it falls on its side, but when it showes it breaking on the ground it falls as if they droped it straight down. I guess they had to fillm that part after and just kinda droped it, i would.....................

Daily Propheter
May 18th, 2003, 10:28 pm
(Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read the whole thread)

Something that's been bugging me about CoS is the part where the trio gets caught near the petrified Mrs Norris. Dumbledore tells everyone else to proceed to their dormitories. ('Everyone, except you three.') You hear a guy say in the background 'Ravenclaws, follow me'.

Wouldn't that be a prefect leading their house away? And isn't Penelope Clearwater the Ravenclaw Prefect? Or am I going insane?

Alorra Spinnet
May 18th, 2003, 10:50 pm
Penelope is "a" Ravenclaw Prefect. Not the only one. I get the impression that you have prefects in each house from fifth year on. Possibly male/female in each year for a total of 6 per house. Fred and George mentioned in one of the books, don't remember which, that they got the password from a prefect downstairs. Clearly this prefect wasn't Percy or they would have said so.

Girl
May 18th, 2003, 11:04 pm
Originally posted by Daily Propheter (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=325698#post325698))
(Sorry if this has been mentioned, I didn't read the whole thread)

Something that's been bugging me about CoS is the part where the trio gets caught near the petrified Mrs Norris. Dumbledore tells everyone else to proceed to their dormitories. ('Everyone, except you three.') You hear a guy say in the background 'Ravenclaws, follow me'.

Wouldn't that be a prefect leading their house away? And isn't Penelope Clearwater the Ravenclaw Prefect? Or am I going insane?


There is a Prefect in each year from the 5th year up. I think it is one girl and one boy from each year. That would be a total of 6 prefects in each house.

Daily Propheter
May 19th, 2003, 3:27 am
Ah. That would explain it then. For some reason, I thought there was a Prefect for each house, and that was it. Thanks for clearing that up for me! :)

Michelle
May 25th, 2003, 10:41 pm
Originally posted by Inkwolf (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=83660#post83660))
Either JKR doesn't like blondes or she's fighting against the Disney black-haired-villains stereotype. :D


But JKR IS a blonde!

Girl
May 25th, 2003, 11:16 pm
Maybe she just wants to show that not all blonds are perfect or always the good guy. It doesn't matter what hair colour you are just cause you are black haired you are evil or blond you are the good.

fawkesthepheonix
May 26th, 2003, 8:54 pm
There's only one mistake in CoS that really bothers me. (Sorry this is a bit off-topic at the moment...)

Right before they take the Polyjuice Potion, Hermione tells the guys to give Crabbe and Goyle the cakes and take their robes/uniforms (can't remember which). When Harry and Ron come into Moaning Myrtle's bathroom, they're wearing the uniforms, right? Right. But in order for Harry and Ron to be wearing them, they would've had to take off Crabbe and Goyle's uniforms and leave them in their underwear.

That's quite disturbing.

(If only they had left that scene in where Hermione says she took the clothes from the laundry! Then it wouldn't have been so bad.)

Girl
May 26th, 2003, 9:17 pm
In CoS the line "The chamber has been opened..." looks like it was written too high up on the wall for Ginny to have been able to reach it. Later when Riddle is telling Harry how he used Ginny it shows Ginny writting on the wall. How did she reach so high up?

symplet
May 27th, 2003, 12:47 am
Originally posted by Girl (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=337990#post337990))
In CoS the line "The chamber has been opened..." looks like it was written too high up on the wall for Ginny to have been able to reach it. Later when Riddle is telling Harry how he used Ginny it shows Ginny writting on the wall. How did she reach so high up?

Floating charm perhaps?? Riddle gave her some of his talents to open the Chamber, so perhaps he just "taught" her a spell so she could float herself to the appropriate height? Am I making sense here?

rotsiepots
May 27th, 2003, 8:22 am
How about a good, old-fashioned ladder?

I don't think this premise is entirely unlikely. :)

Prof.Aze
May 28th, 2003, 8:30 am
I don't know if someone already posted this but it was the class that Hermione asked about the Chamber of Secrets. In the movie it was McGonagall telling them the story but in the book it was in Prof. Binns class in History of Magic.

Alorra Spinnet
May 28th, 2003, 11:23 pm
Originally posted by Prof.Aze (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=340506#post340506))
I don't know if someone already posted this but it was the class that Hermione asked about the Chamber of Secrets. In the movie it was McGonagall telling them the story but in the book it was in Prof. Binns class in History of Magic.

Yeah, and in the COS pc game they have Prof. Flitwick do it. :rolleyes:
I have noticed that during the Quidditch match,when Higgs bumps Harry off course, Harry flies around three of the stands but, on the third one it looks like he flew through it instead of around it. :p

DivineScheme
June 7th, 2003, 2:42 pm
Originally posted by Alorra Spinnet (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=341519#post341519))
Yeah, and in the COS pc game they have Prof. Flitwick do it. :rolleyes:
I have noticed that during the Quidditch match,when Higgs bumps Harry off course, Harry flies around three of the stands but, on the third one it looks like he flew through it instead of around it. :p


lol, I noticed that too!

Insomnia
June 14th, 2003, 2:41 pm
In "The Chamber of Secrets" Dumbledore looked at Mrs Norris which was hanging on the wall and said "she has petrified". How did he know that, though? He did not even touch her. Obviously Steve Kloves forgot about it. Have you noticed, perhaps, other mistakes like this?

Bit
June 14th, 2003, 3:25 pm
Well in the book, he spent awhile poking at her. It was probably just to speed the plot along and appease the mutinous Argus Filch... "I want to see some PUNISHMENT!" (one of the best lines in that movie, IMO).

kaioticgirl
June 14th, 2003, 4:37 pm
I honestly thing that to follow that part of the plot word-for-word from the book would just make the movie even longer (not necessarily a bad thing, but...) they probably had him recognize the fact that she had been petrified in the corridor because the scene in Lockhart's office was a minor one that could be cut out easily, without too many complaints.

Pucko
June 14th, 2003, 6:06 pm
they had to hurry the movie along a bit...they did that a lot, but JK made sure all the important parts (and details) were in the movie

rotsiepots
June 15th, 2003, 12:36 am
I'll merge this topic with an existing thread entitled Movie Mistakes (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6418).

:)

DocHollidaywe
June 15th, 2003, 7:54 am
I noticed it to, but passed it off as Hogwarts Govs. had an office at the ministry

Carbito
June 15th, 2003, 10:02 am
I don't know is this is a mistake or if it has been posted before but some of the characters apperances are a bit wrong. Two I can think of right now are:
a) Percy wears glasses
b) Petunia has blond hair

Insomnia
June 15th, 2003, 10:15 am
Carbito, there are many mistakes like these in the film. You can count and count... Nothing in the films is perfect. Apart from Jason Isaacs and Alan Rickman, prehaps...

theodyssey42
June 15th, 2003, 10:27 pm
I remember in the closing credits of one of the films (I think the second) there are definitely 3 Slytherin Beaters named. I didn't notice the problem in the actual match though...

...unless the person writing the credits didn't really follow the rules of Quidditch.

theodyssey42
June 15th, 2003, 10:32 pm
Oh, and differences between book/film are completely pointless. I am sure Rowling told them what was important, but little differences are not mistakes at all, most of them are intentional to make the movie move along better.

After all CoS is much better than PS, just because it is a little more flexible. It is still amazingly true to the book, considering the way it usually is with Hollywood.

Kestrel6
June 16th, 2003, 7:01 pm
moviemistakes.com is an excellent source of errors and inconsistencies. I also recommed the American Humane Association's movie website, www.ahafilm.org. Click on Reviews, then choose the movie title. It tells how animal action in the film was handled, how the shots were set up, the animal actors involved, and more. A fascinating read!

ILove3eB
July 26th, 2003, 11:28 am
Ok, if there was a thread about his before, I'm sorry for bringing it up again, because I couldn't find anything about it.

In the second movie, when Harry Ron, and the twins arrive at the Weasley's house after driving the car, the camera is directed on their famous clock, which shows where they are at all times. Well one of the options of where they could be is the dentist. But, the magical world doesn't have dentists. We know this because of the times J.K.R. mentions that Hermione's parents are not wizards and witches, but they are dentists implying that there are no witches or wizards that are dentists. Also, when Hermione's teeth kept growing in the fourth book, she went to the nurse and she fixed them, not a dentist.

leenielou
July 28th, 2003, 6:40 pm
Another mistake: in the Slytherin common room, as Harry (Goyle) and Ron (Crabbe) run out, you can see Malfoy behind them with his arms folded, yet just a heartbeat before he was fiddling with that present.

Also, in SS, when they all sit down after their sorting, Harry is on the opposite side of the table to Percy and Hermione is next to Percy, yet when they start eating, all of a sudden Harry is next to Percy! Why?! Like they'd all get up and move!!

ILove3eB
July 28th, 2003, 7:04 pm
Hmmm I never noticed that before, I'll have to look for that. I guess they stopped shooting and then presumed later and forgot how they were sitting and all. They should be more careful with that. Nice Observation. Also, you know what bothers me? In the sorting scene in SS, they don't call them out in alphabetical order. lol it just bugs me.

Ms.Sirius
July 28th, 2003, 7:19 pm
Also, in SS, when they all sit down after their sorting, Harry is on the opposite side of the table to Percy and Hermione is next to Percy, yet when they start eating, all of a sudden Harry is next to Percy! Why?! Like they'd all get up and move!!

Hehehe, too funny. I actually hadn't noticed that or the Weasleys clock type thingy. Guess they were playing a little game of musical chairs at Hogwarts that evening. I'll have to go watch it and check it out. As far as the dentist part, I don't know why that was on there. I guess they would just use magic to fix their teeth. Hermione went to the nurse because that spell caused her teeth to grow really long. So I can see that would be a job for the nurse. Lol.
:whistle:

WatsonFan11
July 28th, 2003, 9:59 pm
Another mistake: in the Slytherin common room, as Harry (Goyle) and Ron (Crabbe) run out, you can see Malfoy behind them with his arms folded, yet just a heartbeat before he was fiddling with that present.

Also, in SS, when they all sit down after their sorting, Harry is on the opposite side of the table to Percy and Hermione is next to Percy, yet when they start eating, all of a sudden Harry is next to Percy! Why?! Like they'd all get up and move!!
Hmm... I never noticed that before. Maybe I will watch the movie tomorrow and see.:)

Marauder
August 13th, 2003, 5:41 pm
In the HP books, it is clearly said that Harry has bright green eyes. But in the movies, he has clear bright blue eyes. Anyone know if the director missed this slip?

Jinxie Cat
August 14th, 2003, 1:07 am
Well, in the movies Dan Radcliffe has the blue eyes NOT Harry! And most of us (Probably all of us) that have seen the movies know about this already! The director did not slip up! Dan tried wearing green contacts but they irritated his eyes... Harry's eye color obviously isn't as important as we thought it would be if JKR let them cast him.

MadMagic
August 14th, 2003, 1:15 am
Yes, I was watching SS the other day and at some points his eyes looked green and at somepoints they looked blue. I'm sure it was just the light thought and they are always blue.

I was thinking that maybe he will try the green contacts again since he is older now. I doubt it, but I would like to see those green eyes on screen.

Driva
August 14th, 2003, 1:21 am
The green eyes could still be important. I really doubt they were going to recast for Harry just over the eye color. I don't think the green eyes in Sorcerer's Stone were all due to lighting though. It looks like they tried to go back and fix up the color a bit.

Ah, but who knows. If it is important then maybe they could try the contacts again.

Arissya_00
August 14th, 2003, 1:36 am
I really thought the green eyes were supposed to be important!! I was kind of disappointed.

dobby_rocks
August 14th, 2003, 2:05 am
I think they are imporant , but Dan had it all accept for the green eyes. I would think that in today with all the computers that they could simplily makes his eyes green via computer but who knows. Either way it dosent bother me. Dan does a great job playing harry

Doggy
August 14th, 2003, 9:33 am
I think I read somewhere that in some scenes they let a computer change the colour to green, but in the most they just didn't bother. Pity, the green eyes was such a mark of Harry Potter.

Guardian Angel
August 14th, 2003, 9:48 am
They could have put him green eye contacts, I don't get why they didn't do it. It is so simple - a lot of people today wear contact for different eye colours and they couldn't give it to an actor?? Strange...

Lord_Chatterley
August 14th, 2003, 12:26 pm
and the hair color?it's black not hazel!

mel
August 14th, 2003, 3:30 pm
Dan is in every scene, practically every shot - do you know how expensive it would be to change his eye color in every single frame he's in? Very.

Guardian Angel
August 14th, 2003, 3:35 pm
do you know how expensive it would be to change his eye color in every single frame he's in? Very.

Change? Why would they change it in every frame? He needs to have green eyes all the time, not green, blue, green, blue... Just put him the green contacts and done. What's the big deal?

mel
August 14th, 2003, 3:50 pm
Change? Why would they change it in every frame? He needs to have green eyes all the time, not green, blue, green, blue... Just put him the green contacts and done. What's the big deal?
Well, I'm taking other people's word on this, but didn't Daniel try the green contacts but they bothered him too much? What I meant was, since they tried and failed with the contacts, their only other options were to change his eyes using CG, or just forget about it. The former is really expensive, and was probably not in the budget, so they just left it alone. All I'm saying is that it's not simple to just change his eye color using CG - expensive and time-consuming.

But I think he should try the contacts again. I'd rather have it be inconsistent with the first two movies than leave out a possible storyline involving eye color. He's older now, maybe he can deal with it better.

Hammi
August 14th, 2003, 9:31 pm
I was really anoyed when I read Dan's eyes bothered him. I wear contacts every day and I have stigmatism. There are so many kinds that are so easy to wear no matter what your eye situation. Also, if an actor is really comitted, he should put some eye drops in a deal with some dry eyes for a few hours everyday. Jim Carey when filming The Grinch, put lenses in big enough to cover his entire eyes to make them yellow. He Had so many problems with those, but he refused to film with out them. He was crazy man. I know we don't know the details and what really was wrong, but from what we read, come on, be a man.

marspeach
August 16th, 2003, 2:23 pm
Yes, but Dan was just a little kid. I can't wear contacts because of the reaction my eyes have to them. They created a protein to reject them It burns so badly. I had to order a special kind for my eyes but they still hurt. So, it's always glasses for me. It didn't bother me about the green contacts, but I wish they could have used CGI to give Dan green eyes.

hawk1245
August 17th, 2003, 1:37 am
Lockhart DOES loose his wand, take a closer look at that scene. Also, Lucious could just say Dobby did it. Easy.

PotionsGoddess46
August 17th, 2003, 5:21 pm
All I have to say is... "wow".

Some of these I did notice myself, such as Harry's eye color and the Avada Kedavra curse. I once tried looking for Emma's cast and the HP books in the window in Diagon Alley. I forgot about even looking for Emma's cast after a while and couldn't see which shop window the books were in. :rasp:

I was just gonna write down the most interesting ones I saw here and watch for them the next time I watched COS. I have nearly a whole page full of stuff, here. :)

fallsauce
August 27th, 2003, 5:55 am
you know what annoys me? What annoys me is that all the students are wearing muggle clothes underneath their robes (and POA has them wearing entirely muggle clothing), so that when they film GoF, they can't use that scene with the guy (archie?) wearing women's night gown, I know they'll probably cut that out anyway, but still...

daniel4hp
August 27th, 2003, 2:12 pm
(and POA has them wearing entirely muggle clothing)
Actually, no. There have been pics showing them wearing robes. Its just that the recently released pics are them outside of school hours, and some stupid rumour sprang up saying they weren't wearing robes. They are.

marspeach
August 27th, 2003, 8:41 pm
I don't think they'd have the scene with Archie in the GoF movie anyway, fallsauce. It's not important and there probably isn't enough time.

fallsauce
August 28th, 2003, 8:53 am
no, I don't think archie will be in GoF either, but it was one of my fav bits in the book. And before they were talking about maybe splitting it into two parts, it wouldn't have been a big thing, just a little snipet while the trio are passing by.

And to daniel4hp, thanks for the info, I pretty much don't care what they change as long as it's not the clothes. lol.

daniel4hp
August 28th, 2003, 5:50 pm
Archie may be cut, but I think people are going a bit far in assuming he will be. Sure, its going to be one movie. This doesn't mean they are going to cut absolutely every unneccesary line. The Archie line would only take a few seconds; yes, it may be cut, but it may not be. A single movie doesn't mean that every humorous bit will be cut out.

fallsauce
August 29th, 2003, 11:05 am
yes, I hope that's true too, but look at HP 1 and 2, they cut out loads, and the books are only around 200 pages, GoF has 600... But anyway, I doubt they're even going to put the whole setting up the tent, going to get water scene in anyway, I'll bet the first bit of the QWC is pretty much non existant.

vagos
August 29th, 2003, 1:52 pm
it's possible they don't even show the game in detail.just to see viktor krum and winky and that's it.i doubt there's even gonna be the gold or the krum figure...

Sebastian06
August 30th, 2003, 9:20 pm
I was just watching the Sorcerer's Stone movie, and I thought I saw someone walking around in the background in the forest scene, but I'm not sure. It's right when the wolf howls, and everyone looks around into the trees. It's kind of blatantly obvious, you can't miss it; it's right smack in the middle of the screen. I was just wondering . . . has anyone noticed this?

stitch626
August 30th, 2003, 10:29 pm
I was just watching the Sorcerer's Stone movie, and I thought I saw someone walking around in the background in the forest scene, but I'm not sure. It's right when the wolf howls, and everyone looks around into the trees. It's kind of blatantly obvious, you can't miss it; it's right smack in the middle of the screen. I was just wondering . . . has anyone noticed this?

I always thought that person was Quirrel/Voldemort running around...

hermione_fan
August 30th, 2003, 11:22 pm
So did I. I never thought it was a mistake.

true_heir_of_slyth
September 1st, 2003, 1:17 pm
i was watching this program on movie mistakes, and there was one from the first film: in the scene where harry, ron and hermione are going to hagrids hut, and hagrid is sitting on the steps playing a recorder. as harry talks (sorry- can't remember the actual line right now- something like 'why didn't i see it before?') hermione is mouthing the words along with him. really. go and see. :)

LOL Slythy xx

dracos_girl007
September 1st, 2003, 2:38 pm
Hey do you guys realize that at oh meh, you might need to search for this I can't be bothered, can't remember the exact address it is something like www.moviemistakes.com(au?) anyway there is like all the Harry Potter mistakes the two HP films are like the two films with the most movie mistakes in history totalling about 300 mistakes between them (can't remember exactly, but it was alot) I suggest if you wanna spot of the mistakes do what I did and go and print out the few pages of mistakes on there, they have all the mistakes you guys have mentioned and like a million more.....

KAMB
September 1st, 2003, 3:51 pm
Hey do you guys realize that at oh meh, you might need to search for this I can't be bothered, can't remember the exact address it is something like www.moviemistakes.com(au?) anyway there is like all the Harry Potter mistakes the two HP films are like the two films with the most movie mistakes in history totalling about 300 mistakes between them (can't remember exactly, but it was alot) I suggest if you wanna spot of the mistakes do what I did and go and print out the few pages of mistakes on there, they have all the mistakes you guys have mentioned and like a million more.....

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film.php?filmid=1654 MOvie #1

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film.php?filmid=2434 Movie #2

cLosErtOthEedgE
September 2nd, 2003, 8:31 am
Not really a nitpick, but I definitely noticed when Lucius began to say the Avada Kedavra curse. However, he would not be sent to Azkaban for what he did, because he did not really perform the curse, he was stopped halfway through.

sorry to bring this up again, you guys have probably already discussed it, but i thought this was completely stupid - the very idea that lucius malfoy would attempt to *KILL* harry, inside the school, RIGHT OUTSIDE DUMBLEDORES OFFICE when lucius was the only one near him, just because he freed dobby..

it's ridiculous. they shouldn't have added something that big.. they shouldn't add anything really

fallsauce
September 3rd, 2003, 7:18 am
Maybe it's just me, but I've always given errors like LM saying AK curse the benefit of the doubt, I mean for all we know, maybe he was aiming for another spell. Jason Isaacs could have made it up or something... (hmm, even I'm not convinced, lol)

dracos_girl007
September 3rd, 2003, 1:47 pm
Are you serious? Come one Chris Columbus and Steve Kloves worked that in there for people to pick up it isn't a mistake! Same as the the paque for M. McGonagall and a few other things I can't be bothered adding.....

ginnythecat
October 10th, 2003, 5:45 pm
What is the real story on Daniel Radcliffe and the blue eyes, (they are so obviously blue that it is impossible to even imagine them green) Can anyone tell me where to look? I have wondered this forever, why would they not change them at least, by putting a green sweater on him once in awhile, rather than accentuating the blue by putting him in blue and red, etc. I understand that he may have had problems with contacts, but perhaps then they should have made them green some other way? I think his eye color is SO vital to the books that it angers me greatly that they blew that off. They can make him change into Goyle but not tint his eyes somehow? I wonder what JKR thought of that detail? Perhaps another actor who was willing to wear the contacts should have been chosen...(not that I dont like him, but come on, his eyes are strikingly blue) Are there any articles anyone can direct me to? The other casting details, such as Dudley's needing blonde hair, Ginny, brown eyes, (see book 2), dont bother me as much because they are not essential details. (Although, in the pictures I have seen Gambon appears to have brown eyes, and as Dumbledore clearly has blue, that will be devastating) Harry's hair color is not as obvious, as it does appear to be dark dark brown. Maybe someday they will remaster the films and fix the color...?

Siriusly_Addicted
October 11th, 2003, 4:40 am
The thing I noticed was in CoS during the Rogue Bludger scene. After Harry's arm is broken and he lands on the ground, Snitch in hand, the bludger dives for him. In the shot where the bludger lands on the ground between his knees, he's leaning back on both his arms, including the broken one. When Hermione, Ron and company come over to him, however, he can't move the arm at all. :lol:

Qeomash
October 11th, 2003, 5:15 am
The reason Daniel Radcliffe can't wear the contacts is he's allergic to them. Basically, they iritate his eyes so much he can barely see.

Though I think they should've tried for a different cleaning solution or different brand before saying "ah-well". They also should try again now that he's grown a lot. Perhaps it was an allergy that he was able to outgrow.

Though, I do have the feeling that if green eyes become vitally important in the last books, they will change the eyecolor somehow.

Alcina
October 11th, 2003, 4:01 pm
Lucius Malfoy works as a School Governor for Hogwarts as well as a part in the Ministry of magic...

You don''t 'work' as a school Governor; it's not a paid thing. More like something you do in your spare time for the good of Society( or, in Malfoy's case, himself) . Governors of British schools only meet half a dozen times a year at most. I suspect most of Malfoy's official posts are like that.

Remember too that Malfoy got chucked off the Board of Governors by the other 11 at the end of CoS. (and I bet he's been chucked off almost everything now he's been found to be a DE; I bet the Dark Lord isn't going to be too pleased with him..if I were him, I think I'd stay in Azkaban and not try to escape...)

As for the 'see you at work' thing, in the light of OotP, it doesn't seem so strange; we know now that Malfoy is always in and out of the Ministry, speaking to Fudge etc.

hawk1245
October 15th, 2003, 5:14 am
Though these are true to the book, they make no sense in the movie:

Draco say 'Crabbe, Goyle! Pigging out in the great hall all this time?"

Maybe draco didn't notice that they were in the dungeons! Not the great hall.

Harry says: 'I heard the voice first in Lockharts office..."

He was in his classroom, not his office!

Also, the movie was shot at cathedrals, many times you can see cruifixs on stain-glass windows and such.

Puffskein
October 15th, 2003, 12:01 pm
Though these are true to the book, they make no sense in the movie:

Draco say 'Crabbe, Goyle! Pigging out in the great hall all this time?"

Maybe draco didn't notice that they were in the dungeons! Not the great hall.


Didn't he mean that they had been in the Great Hall all that time?

hawk1245
October 15th, 2003, 6:36 pm
I never thought of it that way, but still it begs the question: how did malfoy get the idea if he had been looking all over and not seen them? Off topic, but fif you notice that draco was holding a copy of the daily prophet? The scene with him and the article on A. Weasley must have been shot, but was just cut out and not on the DVD. Another thing, the team says they are on their way to quidditch practice, but I did an acurate mape of the movie hogwarts (which took about 3o watchiungs of selected parts of the movie and surfing on the web) and if you look at then geographical facts, they are nowhere near the pitch! The slytherin team is heading in the right direction, but the gryffindors are going the wrong way! Also, I found out in the course of studying the movie hogwarts where Dumbledores office is (it is the little tower sticking out of the largest tower) and you can see the courtyard were lucious and harry have their 'battle' in the overhead shot right anfter the diary scene, it rises about 100 feet in the air. But in the actual scene at the end, it only rises to about 50 feet! aWhat happened to the top half?Don't get confused, there are two studie yard. The one seen most (the 'Hagrid di it scene, and Hedwigs scenes) is toward the back, not the front. The front one is where Lucious and aharry are. Also in that scene, lucious is facing a bunch of mountain, he should be facing a stone wall or bridge if you atch the overshot! Did the rest of the castle dissapear?

Twinkly eyed
October 15th, 2003, 6:42 pm
i agree, puffskein :agree: exactly what i was gonna say

rotsiepots
October 16th, 2003, 12:51 am
Harry says: 'I heard the voice first in Lockharts office..."

He was in his classroom, not his office!

Harry was serving detention in Lockhart's office when he first heard the basilisk, I believe. This is only from memory, but I'm almost positive he wasn't in the classroom.

how did malfoy get the idea if he had been looking all over and not seen them?

Hadn't Malfoy just finished his own Christmas dinner with Crabbe and Goyle in the Great Hall, so he knew where they had been? I'm not sure what you're asking on this one...

hawk1245
October 16th, 2003, 3:02 am
Hate to be too persistant, but he WAS in the classroom, his office is up the stairs (which are clearly visible in the shot.), in the BOOK it was the office, not the movie.

As for Crabbe andGoyle, I want to correct my original printing of the lne. He says: "Crabbe? Goyle? Where have you two been? Pigging out in the great all all tis time?" So he lost them somewhere. Hey I just had a though, but I am not sure it works. They were with him and saw the cakes and he lost them, but I think he would have found them, but I think it is too much time. He obviously was wanting to show them the article and went back to the common room to get it(thats why he was in the dungeon) and when he came back,they wre off doing their cake hunting. But in that case it is still a mistake, why would he sugest that they were in the great hall?

Jonny Boy
October 20th, 2003, 5:06 pm
Okay, there's already a thread about Lucius apparently using the Avada Kadavra...in spite of the fact that it would have sent him to Azkaban for life, and he could hardly use the Imperious curse as an excuse this time....

And da da da da da86 pointed out that Lockhart didn't lose his wand at Snape's Expelliarmus.

But how about that remark Lucius made to Arthur Weasely--"See you at work." Since when did Lucius work at the Ministry? (Or at all. :p I always pegged him as the idle rich.)

Anyone else?
When does Lucius use Avada kedavra?

NiCk RiDdLe
October 21st, 2003, 3:21 am
That's cool, I never noticed the Lucius-Arthur-work thing.

It bugged me, and I don't know if this is a mistake, how the Weasley's were the only people that were dirty from using floo powder. I've always thought that Floo powder was one of the more common methods of travel for wizards. But since no one else seemed to be dirty, I don't know.

I bet it is but maybe they got dirty because their fireplace is simply dirty. It's very likely. :nc:

NiCk RiDdLe
October 21st, 2003, 3:25 am
Answer for Jonny Boy.

This part is when Harry free's Dobby from the Malfloys by putting his sock in the diary. He gives it to Lucious and he gives it to Dobby. Since there was a sock in the diary, Malfloy just gave him clothing so Dobby is free. Harry then shows Malfloy that it was his sock and Malfloy get's really mad so he starts to say it. Just before he starts to say Kerdava Dobby pushes him back with his own magic. That should answer you question Jonny Boy.

pottergirl33
October 21st, 2003, 3:44 am
Another mistake was Hermione doing magic outside of Hogwarts, which is against the law.
-you mean in Diagon Alley? well, yah, im wondering that too. well, maybe because there are no muggles around in DA, doing magic would be ok. or is it? it doesnt make sense. but still its a great movie... :agree:

and another thing... have u noticed that when harry pudhed Lockhart into the chamber in only took him about two seconds to land but when it was Harry and Ron's turn, it took them a longer time.

hesdead-dealwithit
October 21st, 2003, 4:03 am
There are lots of mistakes like this in every movie, and HP movies are not excluded - often words come out of characters' mouth but when you look closely their mouth doesn't move. That's because that take had the best video but not the best audio, so they switched it. I don't know a specific time when this has happened, but if you look closely you'll notice it - it's all over the place.

Jessie
October 21st, 2003, 1:46 pm
I noticed something between the two movies the other day. In the first movie, after the trio return from the Forest serving detention with Hagrid, Harry tells them that he thinks Voldemort is out there. Hermione says in response, "Are you saying that... You-Know-Who is out there?", not directly mentioning Voldemort's name. Now, in the second movie, when Lucius meets the gang at Flourish and Botts, he tells Harry that he is foolish for saying the Dark Lord's name. Hermione then steps up and says, "Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself." Hello... wasn't she scared before, or did she just grow out of it? :p

Virtuousdream
October 21st, 2003, 3:11 pm
Yeah but she's like that in the books, in fact, it took her until book 5 to openly say her name. I guess in the films she got braver quickly!

hawk1245
October 23rd, 2003, 9:50 pm
The REAL mistake in that scene is the fact that she first says : 'You mean you know who is out there right now in the forest?" but a few seconds later she says "wait a minute, who is the ONE wizard VOLDEMORT always feared?" so she is afraid the first time, but says it the next?