What was Sirius' job?

[Barbara Kennedy]

I've done a search but I didn't find this information or a related thread anywhere [I am new to this though] so bear with me please.

I was wondering if Sirius Black had a particular job at the time of James and Lilly's death and what it may have been.
There are a few 'minor' characters that we weren't really informed of their careers because they weren't [probably] important to the story at the time. However we all wonder about our favorite characters don't we?

[spellman1216]

I really have no idea what he did besides that he was the Godfather of Harry. Maybe his profession will be let out in due time because it might effect the story. Or maybe he didn't have a profession or it wasn't that important to fill up the already HUGE books. It would be interesting if he worked at the Ministry and it's going to come back and be a huge part of the story or something like that.

spellman1216 :D

[Jessica]

So far we have seen relatively few professions:

MOM
Teacher
Dragon keeper
Bank whatever the heck Bill does
Shop owner
Auror

There have to be more that we don't know about yet . .

[kittykat]

I don't think he worked at the Ministry because I reckon we would have heard about that by now. And that included being an Auror and a teacher. Perhaps he was working with the 'resistance' against Voldemort rather than having a 'proper' job. When James and co finished school it was in the middle of everything so perhaps Dumbledore recruited them straight from school. Just some thoughts...

[HPviolinist85]

lol, maybe he was a flying motorcycle racer..... that would be pretty cool.... I'm guessing it was a member of MoM though.

[GodricSlytherin]

I think he might have been in the MOM but noone wants to mention it. It would bring up rumors about the MOM that they want not to come up as it probably came up from when Sirius was first imprisoned. And, let's see, hmmm.......flying motorcycle racer.....possibility....

[1MelissaPotter]

Originally posted by jessicacarstens (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=220969#post220969))
Bank whatever the heck Bill does


Bill is a curse-breaker for Gringotts (sp?).
I think Sirius might have been an auror, that is what I think Lily and James might have been. He probably was the samething as Lily and James, since they were best friends. We need to find out what they were!

[Barbara Kennedy]

It has been discussed in other threads that some believe Lupin was a teacher since graduating Hogwarts, although his being a werewolf makes it difficult to find a job.
Has anyone seen a hint as to what job Pettigrew had?
Everyone seems to be convinced that James and Lilly were Aurors or possibly Unspeakables, but it is possible that they were teachers at Hogwarts.
I want to hear theories and textual clues as to who had what jobs.
Go for it gang.;)

[Linda]

Quote:

Bill is a code-breaker for Gringotts (sp?).

Actually, Bill is a charm breaker...but what's that anyway? Does this mean that certain loot has hexes or charms on it, so he has to break it before it can be used? Another thread maybe.

[Linda]

So far we have seen relatively few professions:

Quote (listing of professions):
MOM
Teacher
Dragon keeper
Bank whatever the heck Bill does
Shop owner
Auror

And professional quidditch player. What about announcers?
And the bus drivers -- Stan Shunpike and Ernie Prang

[rotsiepots]

Please use this thread to discuss only what you think Sirius' occupation may have been, as the jobs of other characters are dealt with indirectly in other threads (eg What will Harry discover about Lily and James Potter? (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239)).

Thank you. :)

[Barbara Kennedy]

OK, fine with me.
I'll have to check out the others. Sounds interesting......

[black&potter]

what ever his job was i hope he gets it back when his name is cleared officially or gets a better one

[Mike21]

Originally posted by 1MelissaPotter (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=221242#post221242))
Bill is a code-breaker for Gringotts (sp?).
I think Sirius might have been an auror, that is what I think Lily and James might have been. He probably was the samething as Lily and James- we need to find out what they were!


Im sure that Bill is a curse breaker for Gringrotts.
I think that Sirius was recruited by Dumbledoor because he knew he could trust him.

[Juggernaut]

hm...ive never thought about his profession to much before...the motorcycle racer is a good one :smile:

he might have been a jack-of-all-trades of some sort, he seems somewhat of that type of guy. an auror makes a bit of sense, he seems to think like one actually, if you re-read the correct chapter of book four.

anywho...i like this question its very intriguing:D

[Weatherby]

Sirius strikes me as an intelligent man. He's very concious of human rights. He thought it was wrong to send wizards to jail without trial, his remark about how Crouch treats his inferiors, etc.
Maybe he did something involving this?

[Aldawen]

I really have no idea what he might have done, but he's awfully good at being an escaped convict, no? Maybe he did something that involved a lot of secrecy and not being seen. He is a very smart dude, and people seem to have thought highly of him before he was accused of killing Pettigrew, so he probably had a pretty good/respectable job.

[Barbara Kennedy]

We could make some really good guesses what jobs Sirius did NOT have.
1. Knight Bus driver
2. teacher at Hogwarts
3. Engineer of the Hogwarts Express

Please, feel free to add more, its called "the process of elimination".......

[Auri DeMeer]

Maybe it had to do something with animals. The ability to become one (even if he's not a registered Animagus) is a valuable asset to understand them better. He even managed to befriend Crookshanks.

(By the way do you see him as Care of Magical creatures teacher? I mean, if Hagrid dies/goes away in a mission).

The motorbike hint is cool as well. Racing... Wizard Racing... Like Quidditch, in the air... :cool:

[raeredeyes]

i just think he was cool, full stop. YEah, the motorbike meant that he was mobile.

Perhaps this may lead to a ministry job. Maybe not an auror, but something where he is on the go and looking out for danger. I associate him with danger...

[Huntingdon]

Possibly a mechanic for one of the broomstick companies? Sounds like he like he enjoyed fixing up the motorbike and he knew that the Firebolt was a good broom, rather than just well marketed.

For all his intelligence, he strikes me as someone who prefers a physical job, rather than an intellectual one. He has too much energy.

[Mike21]

Im suprised that Mr.Weasly didnt take the motorcycle bike off him because it is a muggle object. Prehaps he had special permission off the ministry.
Prehaps he worked in magic law inforcement because he knows so much about human rights however wouldnt we have seen him in the pensitive chapter, or Harry may have missed him because he was looking at the prisoners and not the jury.

[EvilMeghan]

I was thinking that Sirius' ability to care for and live with Buckbeak may give a clue about his former job, or at least the job he was training for while in school. He seems to know about hippogriffs. Even what he says to Harry about a dragon's weakness (its eyes) shows some knowledge of Magical Creatures, unless this is widespread knowledge among wizards. Do I have something here, or am I just stringing together some random ideas? :lol:

[supernatural]

hmm, sirius' job...
well thats one possibility- you might well be on to something here- though he was top of his class with james wasn't he, and maybe this is something that is learnt at hogwarts. but i dont know- his previous job hasn't been mentioned yet- i'd be interested to know what it was.

[Shoujo Kitsune]

Sirius does seem to know a lot about what Hagrid calls 'interesting creatures' but he seems to knwo a lot about several things. This could be his job or it could be just that he is very much like Hermione.

[Virtuousdream]

I expect it's on the 2 notebook pages full of notes about Sirius - his past, family etc. that no one but JKR ever needs to see or know!

[supernatural]

ahh- those famous notepads- what i would do to get a peep at those beauties!!!!

[PerenganoDeTal]

Sirius knows a lot, plus things that aren't taught at Hogwarts. He was top of his class with James, and perhaps, like Hermione, they swatted up in the library or something.

[Puffskein]

I did notice what a good job he made of steering Buckbeak off the tower (though that could be his motorbike skills). We could be onto something, or maybe it just shows what a good all-round wizard he is.

[GryffindorSeeker]

Maybe he worked with creatures at the ministry. He is a well-rounded wizard, obviously.

[Auri DeMeer]

Plus the fact that he's an Animagus - that must help to understand the Animal Kingdom.;)

[GryffindorSeeker]

Yes, that too. I think as an animagus, you can communicate with other animals, so he must know a good deal!

[jordmundt6]

And he seems particularly adept at that. I got the impression from Voldemort's discussion with Wormtail and summary of his travails for the reunion that Peter could only communicate effectively with rats. I had, at that point, forgotten that Sirius was able to communicate tolerably well with Crookshanks (who may be part Kneazle but that's another discussion for another thread) so it must be partly ability. I don't know that he necessarily worked in the same department Amos does, but he does seem to know quite a bit about Magical creatures so that's an unknown factor.

I kind of got the impression he may have been an Auror because he knew a lot about the way Moody worked and the directives of the DMLE (Department of Magical Law Enforcement) but I suppose that would have been big news during the war (lifting the ban on Unforgivables to effectively combat Death Eaters, etc.).

[I heart Sirius]

Ooh this gave me an idea! Say he is really good w/ magical creatures, which seems so so far. Okay, then say Hagrid is the one to die *sniffsniff* and Sirius becomes new teacher?

Eh, just a theory. I could see that in a way though I also see him having some kickin' job. Then again, Care of Magical Creature *would* be fun w/ him teachin' it ^^

[Auri DeMeer]

Originally posted by jordmundt6 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=293152#post293152))
I kind of got the impression he may have been an Auror because he knew a lot about the way Moody worked and the directives of the DMLE (Department of Magical Law Enforcement) but I suppose that would have been big news during the war (lifting the ban on Unforgivables to effectively combat Death Eaters, etc.).

An Auror? He didn't even knew about the Dark Mark on the DE's arms...

[Nys]

But then again, i don't think Fudge did either!!!

[black&potter]

im sure being an Animagus would help but im under the impression you can only communicate with the same type of animal as you have the ability to change into. I always did kind of wonder why he was so good at controlling Buckbeak however how do we know he didnt study them in school?

[rotsiepots]

I'm going to merge this topic with an existing thread entitled What was Sirius' job? (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7032) You can find this thread in the Great Hall.

If you're unsure whether a topic has been discussed previously, please use the search (http://www.cosforums.com/a/search.php) function located at the top left-hand corner of your screen.

Thanks -- I'll merge these now. :)

[jordmundt6]

There's no evidence that anyone but Death Eaters and former Death Eaters knew about the Dark Mark tatoo. With the exception of Dumbledore who appears to have been informed by Snape of the existence of the tatoo.

[Auri DeMeer]

I think Sirius and James did something for the Ministry indeed. Fudge seems to have known them very well (in book 3) personally - their friendship, and so on.

Although I still haven't found a suitable job for those two...

[jordmundt6]

Dumbledore could have just filled him in on all that afterwards if he asked.

"Y'know Albus all these people are asking me about little Harry Potter and his history and to be honest I haven't a blessed clue why You-Know-Who was after them or what they did or anything. I know Black betrayed them from the hearing, but that's about it. Could you fill me in?"

I can just see him saying something like that to Dumbledore just after getting elected.

[Girl]

I don't think that we will ever find out in details about Sirius's job. We will only be given the details which are needed for the story unless his job had a big effect on the plot we will never know.

It would however be nice if after the 7 Harry Potter books JK could write a book about each peson. Not all of them just the ones which are of intrest like Siriuse and Snape. She after all won't have to do much research. She has tons of notes one each wizard in the story.
It is only the matter of does she want to. I for one hopes she does.

[jordmundt6]

Of course, access to the compiled notes would be nice as a substitute for a new composition, but yeah backstory on the characters of interest would be a nice jackpot at the end of the struggle.

[Barbara Kennedy]

That is why I posted a thread in the common room asking if she might write Hogwarts: A History after the series was done. She could base it on all her notes for the people, places and things she researched for the series.

[januarystars]

Sirius was very likely working for the order and he used an alter ego, Stubby Boardman, as a cover.

[Jill]

Perhaps Sirius was an auror in the past, there to protect Pettigrew from being caught even. It might explain why and how he was framed so easily for all those deaths. The Potters may not have been the only ones being back stabbed, perhaps Sirius was as well by Pettigrew.

[dobbypotter]

I've done a search but I didn't find this information or a related thread anywhere [I am new to this though] so bear with me please.

I was wondering if Sirius Black had a particular job at the time of James and Lilly's death and what it may have been.
There are a few 'minor' characters that we weren't really informed of their careers because they weren't [probably] important to the story at the time. However we all wonder about our favorite characters don't we?

Sirius's job was to watch Harry {before James and Lily's death}(and secret keeper). But even after there death he was to watch Harry, but since he was wrongly accused he was unable to fulfill his duty on the run. But that was his job and he will be godfather to watch Harry either in the wizard world, orbehind the veil.

[dobbypotter]

Yes, that too. I think as an animagus, you can communicate with other animals, so he must know a good deal!

yes yes interesting. LOL sue i think your point of view is interesting, if only you'd pm me!

[Lady deMimsy]

Who's to say he had a job at all? Maybe the "decent bit of gold" Uncle Alphard left him was enough to set him up for life.

I get the sense that wizard society is still pretty heavily stratified by class, and there are plenty of idle aristocratic types lounging around.

[Miss_Malfoy]

I get the sense that wizard society is still pretty heavily stratified by class, and there are plenty of idle aristocratic types lounging around.

Like a certain Lucius Malfoy? lol..I think Sirius was definitely an Auror. He was close with Lily and James, who we know were Aurors since they were seen in Moody's old photograph of the Order. (I know not everyone in that picture was an Auror, but I think we can assume Lily and James were.) It just seems like Sirius to me. As we've learned, he's always had that courage and that old bit of heroics we see in Harry as well. We'll have to wait to learn more, but I'm going with Auror.

[Weatherby]

I think Lady deMimsy could be right that Sirius didn't have a job. I don't see it as the Lucius Malfoy type who uses his wealth to buy himself into positions though.
I think after school he joined up with Dumbledore and uses his services for the order. He didn't need to earn money but it doesn't mean he was useless or lazy with his time. He could afford to devote himself to the order full-time.

[GlassRoses314]

I doubt he worked at the Ministry....that'd be a real shocker if he did. But yeah, he knows alot about everything. I'd kill to know what's in those notebooks!....

[Discordia]

But yeah, he knows alot about everything. I'd kill to know what's in those notebooks!.... Yeah, he did seem to know an awful lot about stuff. I guess his years in azkaban left him very well informed. I wish we could learn more about Sirius. He was interesting.

[Miss_Malfoy]

I wish we could learn more about Sirius. He was interesting.

I have no worries in not finding out more about Sirius. I'm sure book 6 will have plenty of juicy details about the life of Mr.Black for us.

[Sniv]

Well maybe Sirius' job was to be some kind of an infomation source...He told Harry about his father, Snape (not´much though) and things like that...

[dobby_rocks]

I think like said it possible that he had enough money that he didnt need to work, we know that he was in the order, and its possible maybe he had some type of job right after he graduted however he was not even 22 when he went to jail so that dosent leave much time for him to have acutally had a true profession.

We do know he was a smart man so he could proabably have done anything he put his mind too.

If Lily and James were auours they most have been like Tonks and just have become auours they too were proabably not even 22 when they died, and Tonks was i bleive 20 in book 5

[Celestine_Adams]

I see him being some kind of secret agent (James Bond, anyone? Heh), a bartender, a mechanic or a Quidditch player (who was it who said he'd make a great Beater?).

Care of Magical Creatures Teacher is another good guess, but I can't see him in sitting still in one place for very long.

Possibly an Auror, but Book 5 made me think that all Aurors have to go thru background checks and such with the Ministry and with all that's happened, I just can't see him working for the Ministry. Maybe a sort of Vigilante Auror?

I can't see him being an idle aristocrat, either. Too rough around the edges for that. :D :drool:

Do you think if we asked, JKR might print those notebooks for us? To make up for killing him? :whistle: :clap:

[GlassRoses314]

I can't see him being an idle aristocrat, either. Too rough around the edges for that. :D :drool:

Do you think if we asked, JKR might print those notebooks for us? To make up for killing him? :whistle: :clap:

I like that lol too rough around the edges to be an idle aristocrat.

And also, that's a good idea...I say we beg her to print those notebooks! She owes it to us for making us cry!! :upset:

[Ginnycooler9]

Hello incase you haven't notice, Sirius's job was to protect Lily and James from Voldemort And look after Peter cuse he was there Secret-Keeper!!

But for thoses who haven't read Prisoner of Azkaban then oh well.

And now Sirius's job is to be his Gurad and his Godfather.

[Ginnycooler9]

Sry but the His is Harry

[Miss_Malfoy]

Hello incase you haven't notice, Sirius's job was to protect Lily and James from Voldemort And look after Peter cuse he was there Secret-Keeper!!

But for thoses who haven't read Prisoner of Azkaban then oh well.

And now Sirius's job is to be his Gurad and his Godfather.

Who exactly pays him to do this? Where is he getting money from to watch over Harry? I don't think it would be Dumbledore..he could have done that himself, as he already has for 5 years..

[lorna]

I don't think Sirius was an auror because he didn't seem to know things
aurors would.
Like Snape being an ex death eater. Didn't have that little piece of information in GOF
And I don't think he had the temperment. Brave yeh, but he didn't think things through very well. Changing secret keepers and then not
telling DD (did Sirius think DD was in league with LV) And picking Peter
when from the pensieve we now see they didn't think that much of Peter.
No I could see Sirius being one of those aristocratic types from a fading
aristocratic family who was able to work full time with the Order because he didn't have to worry about money thanks to his uncle.

[hesdead-dealwithit]

Remember, Sirius, as well as the other people in his year, were not very old at all when the war was ocurring. Sirius probably was about 20 to 25 when he was put into prison, so it's possible - no, probable - that he never really settled down into a definite job by then, especially with the war going on around him.

[rotsiepots]

Good point, hesdead. Plus Sirius inherited an amount of money from his Uncle Alphard about three years before Lily and James died, so he probably didn't have time to get a "real" job.

The Order was probably his main concern.

[Celestine_Adams]

And I don't think he had the temperment. Brave yeh, but he didn't think things through very well.

Neither does Harry and Mad-Eye still thinks he'd be a good Auror.

Changing secret keepers and then not telling DD (did Sirius think DD was in league with LV) And picking Peter when from the pensieve we now see they didn't think that much of Peter.

I doubt he thought DD was in league with LV or that Peter would end up betraying his friend and friend's wife and baby to LV. It's not that he didn't think them through - it's that they didn't occur to him at all. If he had the slightest suspicion, I doubt he would've made the change.

No I could see Sirius being one of those aristocratic types from a fading
aristocratic family who was able to work full time with the Order because he didn't have to worry about money thanks to his uncle.

Except for the fact that he ran away at age 16 and hated his family, so I highly doubt he thought of himself as an 'aristocrat'. Furthermore, he said he used the gold Alphard left him to buy a place to live, and those don't exactly come cheap. He had to have worked somewhere.

No, I can see him working with dragons, at least. He knew enough about them to tell Harry what to do for the Tri-Wizard Tournament. ;)

[januarystars]

I still think he was the lead singer of the Hobgoblins, Stubby Boardman. Good cover for an undercover agent of the OotP. Why did Arthur and Shacklebolt think Sirius would be interested in the quibbler article by Doris whatshername?

And then Lily and the marauders were all born in 1959-1960 so they were only 21-22 when Lily and James were murdered. If it takes 3 more years of training after Hogwarts to become an auror, maybe Sirius was still in training. But it's never mentioned in the books that I can recall.

[Celestine_Adams]

I still think he was the lead singer of the Hobgoblins, Stubby Boardman. Good cover for an undercover agent of the OotP. Why did Arthur and Shacklebolt think Sirius would be interested in the quibbler article by Doris whatshername?

Because they thought he'd have a good laugh at it. But your theory makes an odd sort of sense, now that I think about it....

And then Lily and the marauders were all born in 1959-1960 so they were only 21-22 when Lily and James were murdered. If it takes 3 more years of training after Hogwarts to become an auror, maybe Sirius was still in training. But it's never mentioned in the books that I can recall.

That would make sense, too. Sirius got arrested before completing his training, which would explain his "not knowing" what most Aurors know and such. HHmm....

[Discordia]

I still think he was the lead singer of the Hobgoblins, Stubby Boardman. Good cover for an undercover agent of the OotP. Why did Arthur and Shacklebolt think Sirius would be interested in the quibbler article by Doris whatshername?
Some people think that it could have been Regulus since his death was only told through word of mouth it seems.

*wails* I LOVED SRIRIUS SO MUCH!!! *bawls*:upset: :upset: :upset:

I will always be depressed when ever I read his name.

[Drusilla]

I think Sirius,like James,didn't have a regular job-he wouldn't have had the time to hold down one and work for the Order at the same time...and given that he was only 21 or so when he was sentenced to life imprisonment in Azkaban,he couldn't have made much money working at something that needed a long period of intensive training (like being an Auror).He probably lived off some of the gold his uncle left him (and there must have been quite a bit,if he had enough in his Gringotts vault to buy Harry the Firebolt) and concentrated on working against the Dark side.

[silver ink pot]

According to OotP, Sirius Black's Uncle Alphard left him a "decent bit of gold" when he was seventeen, at which time he ran away from home. (OotP, pg. 111, American). Hard to tell which came first, the gold or the running away. He says that after that, he "got a place of his own." It doesn't say that it was a house - could have been an apartment.


I've been wondering just what Sirius did for the Order last time, too. He doesn't tell Harry that he was studying anything.

I know that Sirius was brave in many ways, but I have been re-reading the parts where Sirius is talking to Molly and Snape, and they both seem to have a chip on their shoulder toward him. We know that Molly lost her brothers, the Pruwett twinse Gideon and Fabian, in the last war. Could she possibly resent the fact that Sirius didn't do more in the Order to save people?

At any rate, Sirius didn't seem academically inclined enough to pass the Auror exams. And he doesn't seem to know much about Death Eaters. He says his brother became a DE and died because "you don't just hand in your resignation to Voldemort. It's a lifetime of service or death." The only thing is, Snape did leave Voldemort and so did Igor. In fact, most of the DE's are still alive and well. So that makes me wonder why Sirius didn't try to help his brother get away from Voldemort?

[whizbang121]

Makes you wonder, doesn't i? In fact, that vagueness has led to many brainstorms about Regulus. Soooo many secrets. I think that Sirius was the rock star Stubby Boardman. Same initials :eyebrows: He retired a year before the events at Godric's Hollow.

[yo_dawg_sup?]

Some people think that it could have been Regulus since his death was only told through word of mouth it seems.

*wails* I LOVED SRIRIUS SO MUCH!!! *bawls*:upset: :upset: :upset:

I will always be depressed when ever I read his name.
me too.... *cries*
whenever people say something stupid like "are you serious?" i'm like NO IM NOT BECUASE HE'S DEAD!!!!!!! and then i want to cry...
and when i just finished reading the book i was all depressed and everyone in my spanish class was saying 'are you serious?" to me like 50 million times becuase they thought it was funny that i was depressed over it and they made me cry

[onyxmoon]

awww, c'mon. it'll pass. you'll see when JK puts a new character in book 6 just ofr you to adore :)
btw, don't think sirius ever had a job. he doesn't seem as a person who could hold on to one thing.

[Northcott]

Sirius Black: professional rebel and full-time bad-boy.

Guy with a name like Sirius Black goes careening around on a motorcycle with a chip on his shoulder the size of the Isle of Man, and folks wonder what his job was? Probably causing trouble. ;) Lad was too cool for school; no way he could have relegated himself to a respectable job.

I should've known the character was doomed from the moment I finished PoA. There's invariably one character who I relate enough to that I see the story from their point of view. In this case it was Sirius. It's also pretty run-of-the-mill that any such character will bloody well die before too long, regardless of the genre of the film or book.

[onyxmoon]

very true northcott, every character i like in books dies. that perhaps means that i should stop liking book character, it'lll prolonge their lives :)

[Albusdaughter]

If Sirius (or Lily & James for that matter) were Aurors surely it would have been mentioned by now? After all both Neville's parents were and that has been frequently brought up, at the trial in the pensieve (GoF), by Neville's grandmother in St Mungo's, in the Daily Prophet when the prisoners escaped (all OotP). Harry has expressed the desire to be an Auror in his Careers consultation. I cannot believe that no-one would have mentioned it if Sirius/James/Lily were Aurors.

I agree that Sirius was rich enough not to have to work and principled enough to spend his time working for the Order before being carted off to Azkaban.

[Northcott]

If Sirius (or Lily & James for that matter) were Aurors surely it would have been mentioned by now?

Too true!

After all both Neville's parents were and that has been frequently brought up,

Trivial point; I think it may have been just his father that was an Auror -- though both were members of the Order. Neville's mother was tortured as a way of trying to break his father. At least, that was my impression.

I agree that Sirius was rich enough not to have to work and principled enough to spend his time working for the Order before being carted off to Azkaban.

Y'know, this makes more sense the more I think about it. It would add fuel to the fire between Sirius and his mother; her son, the last scion of a "respectable" family; intelligent, good-looking, athletic, charming... simply good at everything he turns his hand to... this boy who might otherwise have been a paragon of her pet cause spits on it all, becoming nothing more than a "common" low-class rebel who associates with Mudbloods. Worse, he actively works against his family! Rejects his heritage. Rejects classism. Rejects prejudice and hatred.

Goes a long way to explain why Sirius hated Snape so much, too. Snape becomes a living, breathing symbol of everything Sirius hates about his family; an ugly reflection of what he could have been. Snape becomes a convenient target to lash out at, since he was in no position to strike at his family during his school years.

[Barbara Kennedy]

So the concensus so far is that Sirius didn't hold a paying position anywhere?

[whizbang121]

Awwww....
C'mon. He was Stubby Boardman. :D

[grrliz]

Awwww....
C'mon. He was Stubby Boardman. :DNow now, we all know that lots of musicians are actually quite broke because of the way the record industry is run. His manager screwed him over!!

[whizbang121]

:lol: I thought it had something to do with a turnip. But you're right. They were still playing church basements, so it doesn't look like they had a big recording contract, yet.

[serious]

oh, how i wish jo had included a scene with sirius's reaction to that article. lol

[whizbang121]

You know, I used to think that Stubby in the article was someone (Regulus?) in polyjuice, but what if it was Sirius, and he used a timeturner to go back to Godric's Hollow? What happens if the wizard can't get back to the place he left from with the TT?

[godrics hollow]

i dont think we can say he doesnt have a paying job cause no matter how much gold he got he mustve at least spent a good portion of it gettin a house and staying alive then harry says that the firebolt wasnt worth emptying his vault? i doubt it was that much but it mustve been reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy expensive so sirius mustve had some sort of a job maybe a magical shoe shiner? or he couldve worked at a muggle place to be inconspicuous to his parents and the death eaters who hate blood traitors cause that would explain the motorcycle all he had to do was enchant it

[RemusLupinFan]

While I think Sirius no doubt had the qualifications to become an Auror or work for the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, I don’t think he would have ever worked for the Ministry. Sirius doesn’t seem like the type who would want to work under an organization that has so many rules and regulations that one must abide by. He'd probably end up breaking quite a few. :evil:

I like the idea someone suggested that he could have been a mechanic, working to fix all sorts of magical (or even non magical) items. I can just picture him working on magically modified items as well, such as the motorbike, for private clients. I also like the idea of Sirius working as a bartender for some reason. I doubt he ever did so, but it's interesting to imagine him helping Madame Rosmerta in the Three Broomsticks. :eyebrows:

As others have mentioned, I too assume the gold in Sirius' vault must have in a large part come from the donation his uncle Alphard gave to him. So I imagine if Sirius didn’t hold a well-paying job, he would have still been pretty well off. To tell you the truth, after thinking about it I believe it's likely Sirius may not have had a paying job, not because he couldn’t get one or because he was unwilling to work, but perhaps because he joined the fight against Voldemort right away via the first Order. He may not have had time to really settle into a career that would have utilized his magical skills, so instead, he put them to use by helping the Order of the Phoenix. As I said earlier, I do think he had the qualifications to become an Auror, so perhaps he helped the Order the way an officially trained Auror would have.

[offca]

That's a real mistery - what can you do after Hogwarts? He was extremly inteligent, well educated, wit, handsome and with sense of humour. He should have no problems with really good job, don't you think so? But we just know so little about the possiblities! Maybe some self esteem office? Somethink buying/selling/money... Or maybe in more science field? He had brains that should have been used for some good work!

Maybe he did work for MoM in some way... and even if young - was hoped to achive a lot in the future. That would answer the questions about why so fast throwing him to the prison, I am sure he would be a stumbling block for a few ambitious guys in MoM...

[godrics hollow]

would the ambitious guy be barty crouch by anychance? :p

[grrliz]

While I think Sirius no doubt had the qualifications to become an Auror or work for the Department of Magical Law Enforcement, I don’t think he would have ever worked for the Ministry. Sirius doesn’t seem like the type who would want to work under an organization that has so many rules and regulations that one must abide by. He'd probably end up breaking quite a few. :evil: I agree wholeheartedly here. Anything that would resemble a 9-5 office job wouldn't work out all that well for Sirius (although I'm sure it would be a treat to some to see him in a suit and tie :eyebrows: ). The Ministry would probably be the worst place for someone who does not like authority figures... unless he were Minister For Magic himself and he got to make all the rules!

I've read various fanfic that include "Careers Advice" sections, and often young Sirius Black says he wants to be a cursebreaker. There's something dangerous and romantic about it, two things that Sirius would enjoy revelling in I'm sure. "Look at me, I have a sexy dangerous job!!! Whee!!"

I like the idea someone suggested that he could have been a mechanic, working to fix all sorts of magical (or even non magical) items. I can just picture him working on magically modified items as well, such as the motorbike, for private clients. I also like the idea of Sirius working as a bartender for some reason. I doubt he ever did so, but it's interesting to imagine him helping Madame Rosmerta in the Three Broomsticks. :eyebrows: It's funny that it's easy to picture Sirius doing these jobs that his family would have no doubt look down on and not see as very prestegious for someone of the Black family lineage to be doing. A bartender? *scoff!* And I think that would be a large part of the appeal for Sirius; he'd be doing something he might enjoy a lot while simultaneously totally sticking it to his mom. He wins on all sides!

As others have mentioned, I too assume the gold in Sirius' vault must have in a large part come from the donation his uncle Alphard gave to him. So I imagine if Sirius didn’t hold a well-paying job, he would have still been pretty well off. To tell you the truth, after thinking about it I believe it's likely Sirius may not have had a paying job, not because he couldn’t get one or because he was unwilling to work, but perhaps because he joined the fight against Voldemort right away via the first Order. He may not have had time to really settle into a career that would have utilized his magical skills, so instead, he put them to use by helping the Order of the Phoenix. As I said earlier, I do think he had the qualifications to become an Auror, so perhaps he helped the Order the way an officially trained Auror would have.I do agree that this is most likely the case. By the time he and James and Lupin had left school, they were really getting down to the nastiest period of Voldemort's reign of terror. What use is having a regular job if there's not going to be a good world to live in when the war is over? That sort of fits in with Sirius' live in the present mindset: fight now, worry about the details of having an occupation later. Uncle Alphard's gift of gold is enough to sustain him, so he has the luxury of being able to work for the Order 100% without worrying about a wife, kids, a 9-5 job, etc.

James himself inhereited a lot of money as well, so it didn't matter if he had a well paying job. But JKR has hinted that both he and Lily did have occupations, and so that just leaves me wondering why Sirius himself didn't have a job. Although we do have the same sort of situation in the Order now: there are Order members who work at the Ministry (Arthur, Tonks, Kingsley) in order to keep an ear to the ground so to speak, and there are unemployed Order members who have other work to do (Lupin, Moody, Mundungus <-- unless petty crime is a profession?). Perhaps the Order was drawn along such lines the first time round as well.

[Credo Buffa]

"Look at me, I have a sexy dangerous job!!! Whee!!"

:lol: I can totally see Sirius thinking like this! :lol:

I image Sirius trying to go out into the muggle world and be a punk musician or something. . . Something where he gets a lot of attention and gets to spite his family as well (as you mentioned, grrliz). But I agree that any kind of "traditional" job just wouldn't be enough for Sirius. He'd want to do things on his own terms, like some kind of private, entrepreneurial venture.

However, we also know that Sirius was really smart and had to have been good at fighting the Dark Arts to be involved in the Order. Maybe he had some kind of private investigatory office. . . that would give him the kind of freedom of being his own boss, while fitting his sense of adventure.

[nerdypants]

That's an interesting question. What did Sirius do? I doubt he worked at the Ministry. He just doesn't seem like the Ministry type. He had issues with authority, obviously. My guess is that he was unemployed. I don't know why I think that. It's just what seems to fit for him.

[offca]

We cannot forget, that sometimes characteristic and personality don't go in pair with a job... Not everyone is lucky enough to find a job that perfectly matches with interests, hobbies, personality and is well paid :evil:
We know that Sirius had money, so he wasn't in desperate situation - I think he could have a few different job, changing often - didn't like anything, as they were boring, or not cool enough...

[Aurelia]

Maybe something using his motorbike? Pizza delivery? Erm. Just joking.

He would probably want to be an Auror, or have a job that would give him a 'thrill', so no paper work in the Ministry or something like that. Curse-breaker, maybe? It would involve his intelligence too... and I'm sure that he would want to work with James.

I just can't picture our Sirius sitting 24/7 in the library like Hermione... that's more like Remus!

But maybe...?

[whizbang121]

Remember when JKR said James didn't need a well paying job? Well, if Sirius was Stubby Boardman, maybe James, Lily, Lupin and Pettigrew were the Hobgoblins.

[offca]

Remember when JKR said James didn't need a well paying job? Well, if Sirius was Stubby Boardman, maybe James, Lily, Lupin and Pettigrew were the Hobgoblins.


:rotfl:
again the story of The Great Four? (oops, Five in this case :lol:)

That would be really great, if we find out there was some true in this story of Hobgoblins :evil:

[Barbara Kennedy]

What?!
You mean he wasn't just concentrating on being one of the Idle Rich? :huh:

[Tane]

Nope I think Black had enough of the riches from the rest of the Blacks but then again perhaps keeping an eye on the Blacks family was one of the things Sirius was doing for the order.

On the other hand Sirius could have been the mail man as his motorbike would have come in handy for one to one delivery of important letters. Remember Sirius lent his bike to Hagrid when trying to retrieve another important package, Harry in PS. So maybe Sirius Black was a delivery man after all.