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Wab February 11th, 2016 2:56 am

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Well, it's a Potter book (not a novel as some sites have said), probably safest to say its a story in the Potterverse as the series really was about Harry defeat Voldemort and bring balance to the galaxy.

Fhaps February 11th, 2016 4:01 pm

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Well, it IS being called the official '8th story', and it IS in book form. So technically, yeah, it is the 8th book. It's just not a novel. But I honestly don't mind it being in script form, I'm REALLY excited!!

MrSleepyHead February 11th, 2016 4:21 pm

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I have mixed feelings about all this news. Are we sure we should be calling it an 8th Harry Potter book? It seems to me like we're stretching the truth here. :whistle:

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Originally Posted by Wab
Well, it's a Potter book (not a novel as some sites have said), probably safest to say its a story in the Potterverse as the series really was about Harry defeat Voldemort and bring balance to the galaxy.

I have a hard time calling it the "eighth Harry Potter book," but I'm going by what we've been told that it is officially the eight Potter story that will now be published as a script book:
J.K. Rowling TwitterThe story of #CursedChild should be considered canon, though. @jackthorne, John Tiffany (the director) and I developed it together.
5:34 AM - 29 Jun 2015

To be clear! The SCRIPT of #CursedChild is being published. #NotANovel #NotAPrequel ��
4:19 AM - 11 Feb 2016

The script will be in book form, true, but it's still #NotAPrequel because it's set #19YearsLater
4:57 AM - 11 Feb 2016

Pottermore, 23 October 2015, New details on Cursed Child, the ‘eighth Harry Potter story'It’s official. The Cursed Child is the eighth story in the Harry Potter series and we have the synopsis to share with you.

Pottermore, 10 February 2016, Exciting publishing programme from J.K. Rowling’s Wizarding WorldBig things are coming this year from the Wizarding World, including the Special Rehearsal Edition of the script book of new stage play ‘Harry Potter and the Cursed Child Parts I & II'.
[...]
It is officially the eighth story in Harry Potter canon and a new play by Jack Thorne.

Now, I wouldn't say it's a continuation of the story told in the seven Harry Potter books, which was wrapped up with DH. However, it does seem to be an extension of the world and a glimpse of Harry's life 19+ years later - different story, but still part of the whole story of Harry's life.

I've seen a couple of articles hoping for 10+ loose ends to be tied up with this story, which I think is overly optimistic. I'd rather this play be more standalone instead of relentless cameos and forced explanations for things that happened in years 1-7.

Edit: In related news, the day after the announcement of the publication, Cursed Child topped bestseller charts on Amazon, Amazon UK, Waterstones, and Barnes & Noble (listed as 320 pages, hardcover). No surprise! Are midnight releases imminent?

NorthernZel February 11th, 2016 7:49 pm

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Originally Posted by xhanax315 (Post 6103587)
I have mixed feelings about all this news. Are we sure we should be calling it an 8th Harry Potter book? It seems to me like we're stretching the truth here. :whistle:

Depends. After all, the script to "Death Of A Salesman" is considered as literature (at least in my neck of the woods it is :p ).

But we could also call it a "companion" book to the original series?

snapes_witch February 11th, 2016 8:06 pm

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FYI

This is the 'rehearsal' script, meaning there will probably be many changes before the actual performance. According to SnitchSeeker though, eventually there will be a performance script published. I'm waiting for that one!!

MrSleepyHead February 11th, 2016 9:19 pm

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Originally Posted by NorthernZel
But we could also call it a "companion" book to the original series?

This is how I view it so far, but the play so far has been billed as the eight Potter story, which separates it from the existing companion books. Cursed Child seems to toe the line between a sequel (books 2-7) and spin-off (Fantastic Beasts). It doesn't seem to be so much a sequel to DH as it is a continuation of Harry's life and the beginning of a new story within that (i.e., Albus Severus).
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Originally Posted by snapes_witch (Post 6103612)
This is the 'rehearsal' script, meaning there will probably be many changes before the actual performance. According to SnitchSeeker though, eventually there will be a performance script published. I'm waiting for that one!!

It does seem the publication of the rehearsal script is to appease those fans who can't see the play in London, but I expect allegations of money grabbing will follow soon after. The rehearsal edition has been billed as a special edition, though, and may be available for only a short time. Regardless, the definitive copy will likely trump the rehearsal script in terms of canon; it will be interesting to see how much they differ. I also wonder how spoilers will be handled: one would expect more leaks with a play being rehearsed than a novel being printed.

Fhaps February 12th, 2016 7:56 pm

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Originally Posted by MrSleepyHead (Post 6103614)
It does seem the publication of the rehearsal script is to appease those fans who can't see the play in London, but I expect allegations of money grabbing will follow soon after. The rehearsal edition has been billed as a special edition, though, and may be available for only a short time. Regardless, the definitive copy will likely trump the rehearsal script in terms of canon; it will be interesting to see how much they differ. I also wonder how spoilers will be handled: one would expect more leaks with a play being rehearsed than a novel being printed.

It was confirmed in the original press release that the Special Rehearsal Edition will only be available for a limited time and that it will be "replaced" by the Definitive Collector's Edition at a later time.

I'm assuming that the whole play's plot will be available online for anyone who wants to know about it by the end of May, which is when public previews will start. It's gonna be hard to avoid spoilers.

Wab February 12th, 2016 8:28 pm

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I have a hard time calling it the "eighth Harry Potter book," but I'm going by what we've been told that it is officially the eight Potter story that will now be published as a script book:

There is also the not inconsiderable fact that the play is by a different writer. JKR has been at pains to point out that although she has been closely involved with the project she is not the author.

JKR TwitterJ.K. Rowling ‏@jk_rowling

You win! #CursedChild is a play and while we have worked very closely on it, the wonderful writer is @jackthorne

Fhaps February 12th, 2016 10:12 pm

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There is also the not inconsiderable fact that the play is by a different writer. JKR has been at pains to point out that although she has been closely involved with the project she is not the author.

JKR TwitterJ.K. Rowling ‏@jk_rowling

You win! #CursedChild is a play and while we have worked very closely on it, the wonderful writer is @jackthorne

I think that by saying that what she wants to point out is that even though she didn't write the script, it is still true to her vision.

MrSleepyHead February 12th, 2016 11:01 pm

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I think that by saying that what she wants to point out is that even though she didn't write the script, it is still true to her vision.

And I expect most fans will be content with this, but I think there will be those who are unsatisfied the script isn't written directly by her. Though since the canon is presumably derived from JKR, it really isn't a huge deal. It reminds me of James Patterson's 'bestseller factory'.

The publication of Cursed Child makes me wonder if the Fantastic Beasts script will be published, too, despite the movie format reaching a larger audience.

Wab February 13th, 2016 5:18 am

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Originally Posted by Fhaps (Post 6103635)
I think that by saying that what she wants to point out is that even though she didn't write the script, it is still true to her vision.

I think she was trying to clear up the idea some people had that she wrote the play.

Sereena February 13th, 2016 9:33 am

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And I expect most fans will be content with this, but I think there will be those who are unsatisfied the script isn't written directly by her. Though since the canon is presumably derived from JKR, it really isn't a huge deal. It reminds me of James Patterson's 'bestseller factory'.

But if it wasn't written by her just approved by her isn't it as canon (or as uncanon?) as the movies are?

snapes_witch February 13th, 2016 7:56 pm

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But if it wasn't written by her just approved by her isn't it as canon (or as uncanon?) as the movies are?

There are some fans who don't consider the movies to be canon since they depart so much from the books.

JKR says the play is canon.

Sereena February 13th, 2016 9:06 pm

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I don't consider the movies canon either so that's why I was asking. Despite them being approved by Rowling. Did she specifically say we should consider the play canon?

HedwigOwl February 14th, 2016 6:25 am

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I don't consider the movies canon either so that's why I was asking. Despite them being approved by Rowling. Did she specifically say we should consider the play canon?

Apparently she did, quoted in this article in The Guardian from this past Friday:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/201...r-cursed-child

snapes_witch February 14th, 2016 7:46 pm

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Originally Posted by HedwigOwl (Post 6103670)
Apparently she did, quoted in this article in The Guardian from this past Friday:
http://www.theguardian.com/books/201...r-cursed-child

Also the Fantastic Beasts movie trilogy because she's writing the screenplays.

And Pottermore . . . .

MrSleepyHead February 15th, 2016 2:52 am

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Which raises the question: can JKR dictate what is canon, particularly with works she didn't write(Cursed Child) and embellish/deviate from her writing (Fantastic Beasts)?

HedwigOwl February 15th, 2016 5:17 am

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Which raises the question: can JKR dictate what is canon, particularly with works she didn't write(Cursed Child) and embellish/deviate from her writing (Fantastic Beasts)?

I think she's the only one in a position to say what's canon. The more interesting thing to me is the contract page published in The Guardian -- given certain already existing works were named as exempt from any work by the scriptwriters, so was a rumored book-to-be...hope for the Scottish Book lives on, as it's named specifically.

Spirit March 19th, 2016 6:11 am

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All I know is that I'm hoping there will be a midnight book release for The Cursed Child. Take me back to 2007! Just to get a little taste of that magic would be nice again.

snapes_witch March 19th, 2016 8:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Spirit (Post 6104224)
All I know is that I'm hoping there will be a midnight book release for The Cursed Child. Take me back to 2007! Just to get a little taste of that magic would be nice again.

Doubtful since there weren't any for the textbooks or The Tales of Beedle the Bard. It's merely a script, not a full-blown novel.


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