Accents in Films: The Good, the Bad and the Cringeworthy
Well, I've done a search and didn't find any thread specifically to discuss accents in films. Sorry if I just missed it, or if this topic is in the wrong place. Anyway, here goes.
For me, something that can ruin a film is a badly portrayed accent, for the simple fact that it is embarrassing and also that I'm going to be laughing rather than taking something seriously.With this in mind, 1. What country are you from? 2. Can you name some examples of what you consider to be good or dire attempts at your accent in films? To go first, I'm Irish and two great ones that spring to mind are Cate Blanchett in Veronica Guerin and Jon Voight in The General. Fantastic, not overdone or clichéd and I think right on the money. On the other hand, first thing that comes to mind when I think of bad Irish accents, Far and Away. No-one talks like that, absolutely no-one. |
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So many people absolutely butcher the Australian accent!
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Even Australian actors butcher the Australian accent. It's horrible.
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I'm from the US.
My least favorite accent attempt is in the movie Dracula. The one with Gary Oldman. Keanu (sp?) Reeves does a bad job of trying to sound English, imo. I love that movie, but I cringe a little when he speaks. To me, is seems most English actors can do a better American accent than Americans can do an English one. :shrug: |
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As I said somewhere else I'd much rather prefer an actor/actress not try an accent than do it badly.
A non-accent may be a bit anachronistic but if everything else is on order bearable, a bad accent (Meryl Streep in Evil Angels, Mel Gibson in Braveheart and the painful Dick van **** (curse the auro-censor) in Mary Poppins) just shatters the mood entirely. |
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Hysteria, are you talking about the Crocodile Dundee films by any chance? |
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I think the problem with Australian accents is they're so easy to exaggerate. I've never met anybody who speaks like Crocodile Dundee and I've lived in Australia for almost my whole life. Quote:
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I'm Canadian but the ting that always irks me is that in historical Greco-Roman era films, the actors almost always have a British accent!
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I've heard a lot of bad English accents and that really does irk me, but equally I've heard some good ones - Renee Zellweger and Leonardo Decaprio do pretty good accents IMO.
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Maybe he does a good English accent but I swear I actually couldn't watch Gangs of New York the Oirish accents were so bad.
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I think Leo did a to die for accent in Titanic and he did really good in Blood Diamond.
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I loved Renee Z perfect accent in Bridget Jones and Eva Green had a good one in James Bond.
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Dick Van Dike's attempt at a cockney English accent in Mary Poppins was one of the most cringe-making bits of film. Ever. (Mind you, I hated most of the the rest of it as well!)
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I can't think of any off the top of my head that were really terrible, but I don't generally pay attention to such things. Well, there is one awful accent, but it's from a TV show. There was one episode of Dr. Who where they were in New York. Most of the people in it did pretty convincing NY accents, but there was one guy, who's character had supposedly moved from the South, who absolutely could not do a Southern accent. It was totally obvious. |
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I'm American, and I must say that Hugh Laurie does a perfect American accent in House (TV, not movie, I know). And Christian Bale is pretty great at accents, too. He always has a different one in different movies, and he's so convincing that I had to look up where he's actually from. :)
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A lot of times I can tell that certain actors aren't American but are trying to do the accent. One who totally fooled me, though, was Lennie James from Jericho (again TV, not movie, I know). His accent in that show is so consistent I had no idea he wasn't American until I saw him give an interview about the show! |
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Speaking of Southern Accents, when I lived down there I never realized I had picked it up because I was born in Kansas, and we were watching home videos the other day, we no longer live in Texas and back in Kansas, and it was funny. Now we are doing a play with Southern Accents and we all really, suck. It's a good thing it is a melo-drama or else we would have no audiance, :lol:.
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As for cringeworthy - one springs to mind being Irish as well - Tom Cruise & Nicole Kidman in far & away. Please, please, please get rid of any perceptions that Irish people speak that way - we don't!!! and if someone tried to it would be beaten out of them with sticks before they could get too strong an accent :lol: okay...well maybe not with the sticks!!! |
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Fake American accents always amuse me. In Farscape (yes, I know it's not a movie) it's always fun to listen to the American accents from the Australian actors. They have varying degrees of success, but they all slip out occasionally.
What do the Scottish think of Scotty's accent in Star Trek (hey, there were movies)? It doesn't sound very good to me, but I'm no expert. Also on the Scottish vein, I like listening to traces of David Tennant's natural Scottish accent when he does English accents in Harry Potter, Doctor Who, and Casanova. (i'm sure he's done other things, but that's what I've seen him in.) |
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@Wab: I knew he played a Zimbabwean (or as he said in the movie he was from Rhodesia - what Zimbabwe used to be called) but my South African friends commented on his accent based on them being from a similar area and having personal experience of hearing the accent regularly in real life. |
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I'm American :).
I think Johnny Depp does really good accents in all of his films...anyone else? As far as people who do good American accents, I think Minnie Driver does a great job. I never knew she was British until I looked her up on Wikipedia! I had only seen her in Return to Me and Ella Enchanted, and she did an American accent in both of them, so I couldn't even tell! I also think Freddie Highmore does an pretty good job with an American accent in Spiderwick and August Rush :). |
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James McAvoy is Scottish but i loved his British accent in Atonement & Becoming Jane.
I didn't like his American accent in Penelope though, it just wasn't right for him... |
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:love: James McAvoy! *though I thought it was McAvory*. About Minnie Driver, she does Phantom of the Opera, which I think she does a Spanish accent in that one. Freddie, I thought he sounded British in Spiderwick too, so I don't think the American accent in that was so well, but in August Rush he was good! Johnny Depp is just plain talented! :lol:
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I'm South African and every attempt at a South African accent that I've heard didn't pull it off (it was quite comical, actually). I can't really name specific examples, but there was an American in Stander who tried and sounded horrible but, in all fairness, they had the poor man do a South Afican accent but with the Afrikaans accent added to it, so he had to do Afrikaans-accented South African english. Only South African Afrikaaners can pull that off. Then, I know for certain Nicole Kidman and Leonardo Di Caprio (in Blood Diamond) tried, but neither managed (though Di Caprio did get a favourable response in reviews).
The problem is, I believe, that we have no real accent. Nothing is really emphasised; so no rolled r's, no twangs, tings, slurs or anything. The accent is best described as 'flat.' |
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I'm British.
It's hard to think of good British accents by foreign actors, as I don't tend to notice them - it's far easier to notice when they get it wrong. I agree that Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones was great, though. In many cases, I'd rather people spoke in their own accents and I could just suspend my disbelief. Sometimes, even when an actor gets the accent right, it's obvious that they're putting so much effort into the accent that they're not concentrating enough on other aspects of the acting. One accent thing that always makes me laugh is Viggo Mortensen in Lord of the Rings. Being a Danish speaker, he goes out of the way to pronounce the Norse placenames etc correctly, as they would be pronounced by a Scandinavian, but it sounds really obtrusive, because nobody else in the film is pronouncing them like that. Quote:
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I generally detest fake accents in movies.
It makes more sense to simply cast an actor with the required accent. Good - Kate Winslet in any movie where she uses an American accent. Bad - Any American actor trying to do a British accent. Cringeworthy - Harrison Ford in "K-19: The Widowmaker" |
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Australian and New Zealand actors in particular do a great job with accents. Noah Taylor can blend into any background. I think one of the worst I encountered was Kevin Spacey in Ordinary Decent Criminal. The worst Irish accent of all time - topping even Julia Roberts in Michael Collins. |
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Kevin Costner's accent in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves was memorably bad...when he actually remembered that he was meant to be doing an accent. :lol:
Not many people can pull off a successful Australian accent either. |
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Christian Bale has a wonderful American accent. And of course Hugh Laurie.
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I caught a few scenes of From Hell last night on IFC. I was so transfixed by Heather Graham's atrocious accent that I just couldn't look away. It was kind of like a train wreck.
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I honestly hate when people get the southern accent wrong - which they normally do by adding too much emphases and talking too slowly. Some movies are just excellent, though. I though Sally Field in Steel Magnolias did a pretty nice job of passing a southern accent for someone from California. :) |
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So yeah, I guess that would be a sign of pulling off a good accent. :p Honestly though, I can't say I pay much attention to accents unless they really stand out to me. It doesn't typically bother me. :shrug: And I can't recall any others off the top of my head except one that recently sounded quite odd to me- Leonardo DiCaprio in Blood Diamond, but then I have no idea what that accent should really sound like so... EDIT: I also remembered Heath Ledger in Brokeback Mountain struck me as being really good, even though he was quite hard to understand. :lol: Well, maybe not good (I'm not from that part of the U.S. so I don't know if it was accurate perse) but consistent at least. :tu: Quote:
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Same with Australian accents (a similar imbalance also explains why Brits do such an abyssmal job). |
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I'd like to mention Stanislav Ianevski's horrible fake accent in Goblet Of Fire. That sounded nothing like a Bulgarian speaking in English, even though he is Bulgarian.
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American actors who have pulled off a good English accent
- Renée Zellweger in Bridget Jones -- best of them all, IMO. She even looks English, with that rather chubby face and pink complexion. - Gwyneth Paltrow in Shakespeare in Love and Emma (she tends to annoy me, too mannered for my tastes, but I have to concede that she gets the accent right) - Anne Hathaway in Becoming Jane - Elijah Wood in LotR - Brad Dourif, as Grima Wormtongue, in LotR - The wonderful Frances McDormand, in Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day - Drew Barrymore in Ever After I'm sure that Glenn Close and Meryl Streep have both done English accents somewhere in their long careers. :lol: Whatever, they're both awesome. :agree: Julianne Moore, surprisingly, fails to get it right in Children of Men. I really, really like her work :tu: but her accent was rather wobbly in that film. Australian actors who can do a good English accent - The lovely Cate Blanchett :) mainly as Galadriel and Elizabeth 1st - And Miranda Otto, in LotR - And David Wenham :D and John Noble :D in LotR :relax: - Hugh Jackman :drool: in The Prestige British actors who can do a good American accent - Hugh Laurie, in House - Damian Lewis, as Major Richard Winters, in Band of Brothers ... OK, that's a mini-series, not a film, but his accent is so impressive (at least to my British ears) I had to mention it. ;) - And I thought I spotted Julia Ormond the other night, in CSI: New York. |
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As I said before, until recently I actually thought he WAS American! :lol: I was so shocked when I heard him speaking British in interviews :wow: Quote:
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Pearl _ Took - I'd forgotten about Elijah Wood but, you're right - for a long time after LOTR, I thought he was British. |
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Also, if you want to see other great movies with him playing an american, 3:10 To Yuma, Rescue Dawn, and though it's not particularly a movie where he does an incredible specific accent, his performance in American Psycho remains his best (though I have yet to see The Machinist). Actually, I take that back on the accent bit with AP, the voice he puts on is rather chilling. |
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As I'm Devon born, Somerset raised and of Cornish descent, it's a pet peeve of mine that English West Country accents (a) very rarely appear in films (b) when they do, they're usually done spectacularly badly. John Thaw in Goodnight, Mr Tom is a particularly atrocious example.
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In NCIS, the person who played Malachi Ben-Gidon in the episode Good Cop Bad Cop, the actor T. J. Ramini goes between the accent he's trying to do and a natural british accent, I couldn't decide whether it was just in character or not!
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1. What country are you from?
USA. People tell me I have a slight New York accent. 2. Can you name some examples of what you consider to be good or dire attempts at your accent in films? Well, I dunno about New York specifically, but I have seen some BBC/A & E shows where an actor or actress will attempt an American accent. I think the worst might have been in an episode of Poirot. I can't remember which one specifically. I just remember that it sounded really fake. Also, does it count if the accent was intentionally bad? John Oliver on the Daily Show has done some intentionally bad American accents for humor. Other examples are the voice of Mario in the Nintendo games, and Chico Marx, which are both comically bad Italian accents. I've heard that there are certain actors/actresses which have a special talent at accents. Meryl Streep is one, and so is Hugh Laurie. |
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Although Streep made a terrible hash of an Australian accent in Evil Angels.
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I am from the United States - Pacific Northwest to be exact:)
I agree with many, Christian Bale seems to be good at any accent he does. I spend lots of time on IMDb.com, and I've read that he's never done his natural accent in a film. I believe he's Welsh. Johnny Depp always gets it right:cool: Hugh Laurie does a totally convincing American accent (House obviously, and also Stuart Little). I love when he appears at award shows and such, because his natural british accent sounds so nice. Kate Winslet is also good at her American accent, Titanic for example. Hugh Jackman seems good at any accent he does too. I thought James McAvoy was British after seeing Chronicles of Narnia. I didn't learn he was Scottish until I got a book about the movie; in the book, the director (or producer, I forget who) also thought that James was British because of his audition tape. To his surprise, when he met James, he had a Scottish accent. So I think he does good at the British, but I was confused about his accent in Becoming Jane. Wasn't he supposed to be Irish? He sounded British to me. As for an accent that makes me cringe, Matt Damon's British accent in The Brother's Grimm.:shrug: Also, Kevin Costner and friends had really annoying accents in 13 Days (I think that's what it's called - it's about the Cuban Missle Crisis) They have these horrible Kennedy/Boston accents that were hard to listen to. I, for one, really like Dick van Dike in Mary Poppins:D He's my favorite character in that movie, and just hearing him talk makes me smile. I don't mind if it's a horribly over the top cockney, I think it's right for the character. |
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Daniel Radcliffe was better than I thought he would be in December Boys. A little. |
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Ah, I must have forgotten. Thanks :)
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I thought Isabelle Fuhrman's Estonian accent was quite good in The Orphan... I have no idea if it was authentic though. XD What did you guys think of her accent?
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Ewan McGregor does great accents in my opinion! For example, Star Wars, Big Fish, Down With Love, Moulin Rouge. In fact he hardly ever uses his Scottish accent in movies.
Also, Anton Yelchin as Pavel Chekov in Star Trek. He said that he didn't do a real Russian accent, but like a stereotyped perception of a Russian accent, but either way it sounded good to me; I was completely convinced he was fresh-off-the-boat from Russia (Then I saw him in Terminator and was like "wait a minute - he speaks English perfectly?" :lol:). These have been mentioned already as good accents: Hugh Jackman Christian Bale Heath Ledger Renee Zellweger |
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Cameron Diaz in The Box. I thought it was really funny actually :p
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Ok not a movie but I think Jamie Barber's accent on Battlestar Galactica was great. Would not have ever known he was British if I hadn't seen him on Law and Order (the british one)
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I just watched the trailer for the upcoming Prince of Persia and Jake Gyllenhaal's accent made me cringe. It seems to change about a lot and has a slight Cockney sound to it which doesn't seem to be appropriate. I get the impression he is trying to sound like a 'Jack Sparrow lite' although he could well have been directed that way so it possibly isn't his fault.
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Sam Worthington's accent in Terminator 4: Salvation made me cringe when it slipped into his Aussie accent. But he seemed to improve his accent in Avatar.
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Here's an interesting article where an American voice coach assesses the ability of Australians in US programs to master an American accent.
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I personally thought that Meryl Streep's accent in Evil Angels was cringe-worthy. She sounded like a dodgy housewife the whole time. Actually, now I think about it, Streep's whole performance in Evil Angels was pretty average. As far as Daniel Radcliffe in December Boys, I was disappointed. I heard his English accent the whole time, except for that one "How ya goin'?" line which was absolutely terrible and gag-worthy. It seemed to be that he would sometimes forget he was supposed to be Australian, and sometimes it was way to strong. On a different note, does anyone else think Eric Bana exaggerated his accent hugely on Funny People? |
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Sam Worthington did a decent job with the American accent in Avatar, but there were a few slips. He said that he's still having trouble with the accent.
Costner in Robin Hood was just awful. I think there came a point where he gave up. On Southern accents...it's painful to listen to when people get it wrong. However, the main actors in O Brother Where Art Thou did a fantastic job. But looking on IMDB will reveal that they all spent time in the south. I really liked Brad Pitt's over-done accent in Inglorious Basterds. That was awesome. Heh. |
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I love it when English/Australians/whatever actors pull a great American accent. If I was one of them I would speak only in American Accent.
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Just throwing it out there, I hate when people try to pull off New York accents. It never sounds right to me.
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IMO, Tom Cruise is TERRIBLE at accents. in Valkyrie, he occasionally slipped into a British accent (for some reason - probably because all the other actors were British), and it was ... no. just no. |
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I just saw Inglorious Basterds last night, and Brad Pitt's accent for his character was just laughable :lol:. I know it was done for effect, as in it being over the top... but it was just a little too much for me to take.
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From a non-English native POV is almost every accent weird. Some are so difficult to understand (some British one for example) that I wondered if they are talking a human language at all. During "Billy Elliot" for example.
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Matt Damon did a very good South African accent in Invictus. At times it sounded perfect, going over-the-top only with the 'Okes' bits. Mind you, there were a lot of real South Africans in there, so he had to do it well to fit in.
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What a great idea for a thread! XD
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One of the worst accents in the world belongs to Sean Connery. No matter what film he's in, he manages to be a bloody boring version of Scottish. XD I saw A Single Man recently and Nicholas Hoult was playing a Californian college boy from the '60s. I'm no expert on that specific accent, but I thought he did a fantastic job with it. At least, you could tell he really worked with an accent coach and got whatever it was they were working with spot on. |
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I thought Johnny Depp's accent in Finding Neverland was great- but then again, I'm not Scottish, so what do I know! ;)
Freddie Highmore was brilliant doing an American accent in August Rush. It seems like most English actors, when trying to be American, go way over the top, but Freddie kept it nice and subtle. As for the cringe-worthy: poor, poor Dick van **** (sorry, censors!). His cockney accent was awful! But he's so dang adorable, it doesn't distract me much. |
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Being Dutch, I don't often notice when British/American/Australian accents are done badly (especially when they're supposed to be from a specific part of one of those countries), but Alan Rickman and Emma Thompson trying to sound American in Judas Kiss really made me cringe. I love both of them, but that was just... wrong.
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There's been a lot of controversy about Anne Hathaway's allegedly "Yorkshire" accent in One Day, with some reviews saying that she appears to go on a round-Britain tour, slipping between Yorkshire, London and Liverpool, amongst other places, but other reviews seem to think it's OK and point out that most people who move away from their place of birth for work or to go to university tend to talk in a mixed accent and slip in and out, anyway (I know that's true of me).
Having said that, class is usually central to Nicholls's books, so in this case I think the Yorkshire accent is crucial to marking the character's social background. I haven't seen the film, though - I'm tempted to, just to check out the famous accent! |
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I am somewhat surprised that Gary Oldman has not rated a mention thus far. He is a master of dialect imitation...though his New York-Irish accent in State of Grace left a lot to be desired. Daniel Day Lewis and Hugh Laurie should receive notable mentions for their ofttimes used American accents.
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I'm from the UK, Scotland near Edinburgh.
Again I know it's not a movie but James Masters who played Spike in Buffy had an amazing accent- I remember watching on of the specials on the dvd set and being really shocked when I heard who he spoke. One of the worst accents I ever heard was again not a movie but Helen Baxendale in friends put on this really stupid accent, all the more ludicrous was that she is British in the first place but somehow felt the need to change her accent and sound more 'posh'. I think the mistake a lot of actors make is overdoing it so the accent just sounds awful and unbelievable. It happens a lot with Scottish accents- I think because I am from Scotland I can tell where is Scotland someone is from but how they talk but to someone outside we just all sound Scottish. For that reason a lot of Scottish accents I hear on film just sound a bit off. |
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I think one reason many Australians take issue with actors getting our accent wrong is because they go for the occa Australian accent. Most Australians live in cities, and I've never met a single one who speaks like they do in movies. If anything we sound more British IMO.
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I always cringe whenever a Swedish actor or actress tries to do a British or American accent. Fails [almost] every time. I can always hear the Swedish in there.
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When I hear the overdone 'Ocker' accent it is like nails on a chalkboard to my ears. *shudder* |
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Russell Crowe playing Robin Hood however, was another story completely! (Holds head in hands at the memory!) Did you ever see the film? |
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I'll give props to Robert Pattinson for his American accent. Since I don't really pay much attention to him other than the movies I've seen him in, I was surprised to hear what he really sounds like when he talks in his natural accent! Christian Bale is the same--I had no idea he wasn't American :rotfl:
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It's funny, I never really paid attention to how many distinct American regional accents there are, but there are SO many! I'm sure it's true for any country but being American I never really thought beyond the basics: Southern, New York, Jersey, Boston, Upper Midwest (think Fargo). I love this kind of stuff, though! Fascinating. |
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Robert Downey Jnr has nailed the British accent in Sherlock Holmes - I saw the second film again this week with a friend who came out of the cinema convinced he was British!
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Australian accent's sound great to me.
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I enjoyed the King's Speech - and I thought Jennifer Ehle's Australian accent was good - but an Australian friend saw the film and commented that her accent sounded much more like a new Zealamd accent than an Australian one.....
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There are actually lots of examples of UK actors pulling off convincing American accents. Here are a few of my favorites:
I defer to my UK friends on UK accents, but I did enjoy Alan Rickman's northern accent in Blow Dry. Was it supposed to be Yorkshire? |
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When he was starting in the US Australian actor Anthony LaPaglia concentrated so much on developing a Brooklyn accent that his natural accent is almost gone.
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