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ccollinsmith September 27th, 2011 3:37 pm

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I'm glad to see that Hes has already mentioned that all welcome emails have now gone out! :clap:

BrianTung September 27th, 2011 3:42 pm

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Originally Posted by leafbreeze (Post 5889090)
Potions are messing up for me now-I'll start one brewing, but when I click the "Come back Later" button (which has always worked for me before), the site takes me right back to the potions book page, which says I have nothing brewing. >.>

Spoiler: show

Yes, I'm afraid that if that happens over and over again, it's a Phase 1 potions loop (that's my own terminology, sorry, to distinguish it from the Phase 2 potions loop, which registers that you've completed the first page, but never allows you to move on to the second page). If you click here, you get a post of mine in which I detailed a few things I tried that eventually got me out of the loop, although I can't be certain that what I did was actually material in getting me out.

Before you do that, you might try waiting a bit (that's what I did first), to see if the problem clears up on its own. Hopefully it does. Good luck!

AccioDragon102 September 27th, 2011 3:44 pm

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Originally Posted by Hes (Post 5889081)
New Pottermore Insider message:

Awesome news! Unfortunately we can't use the site due to demand

MerryLore September 27th, 2011 4:12 pm

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Originally Posted by AccioDragon102 (Post 5889105)
Awesome news! Unfortunately we can't use the site due to demand

I'm not logging into Pottermore again until Monday.

Maybe if some of us who have enjoyed the site since August would go on a brief hiatus, it would help.

ccollinsmith September 27th, 2011 4:16 pm

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Originally Posted by MerryLore (Post 5889131)
I'm not logging into Pottermore again until Monday.

Maybe if some of us who have enjoyed the site since August would go on a brief hiatus, it would help.

I agree with that. I got on at the end of August, and I certainly don't plan to login today. If I go on the site in the next few days, it will only be to get the numbers inside the Great Hall.

owlycherries September 27th, 2011 4:34 pm

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Wow, it's great news that all the emails have been sent out! Perhaps there was one million after all then =P

Is anyone else getting this message?

"Due to high levels of demand, we are currently restricting access to Pottermore. Please come back and try again later."

:sigh: I wanna brew potions!

SunSparks September 27th, 2011 4:45 pm

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Thanks for the info Hes!

WOW. I'm so happy for the remaining people!!! I think I'll stay off for a while and not compete for server time. :D

Lisl_Loveheart September 27th, 2011 4:46 pm

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Originally Posted by MerryLore (Post 5889131)
I'm not logging into Pottermore again until Monday.

Maybe if some of us who have enjoyed the site since August would go on a brief hiatus, it would help.

This is a very wise move and I will follow your lead. No Pottermore for me until October. :)

SusanBones September 27th, 2011 4:49 pm

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Originally Posted by owlycherries (Post 5889145)
Wow, it's great news that all the emails have been sent out! Perhaps there was one million after all then =P

Is anyone else getting this message?

"Due to high levels of demand, we are currently restricting access to Pottermore. Please come back and try again later."

:sigh: I wanna brew potions!

I was surprised to learn that there were one million beta testers after all. When I was last able to log into the site last night, there were something like 494,000 students in the Great Hall. So if Pottermore plans to double the student body in such a short time frame, then I would assume that the site will be very busy for awhile. In fact, last night, in U.S. time zones, the site was busy most of the time.

I wouldn't even try to brew potions with all this craziness going on right now. :yuhup: I'll come back in a few days. :eeep:

I want to avoid the Potions loop, especially since it seems like they haven't fixed it yet :argh:, so I never click on the "come back later" button. I just let the Potion brew. I don't do anything else in Pottermore while it is brewing.

Lady Elven September 27th, 2011 4:55 pm

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I'm brewing a potion right now and its working great. I know its been all over previous threads but what should you have it your trunk, I feel like i'm missing stuff.

BrianTung September 27th, 2011 4:55 pm

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Originally Posted by SusanBones (Post 5889155)
I was surprised to learn that there were one million beta testers after all. When I was last able to log into the site last night, there were something like 494,000 students in the Great Hall. So if Pottermore plans to double the student body in such a short time frame, then I would assume that the site will be very busy for awhile. In fact, last night, in U.S. time zones, the site was busy most of the time.

I wouldn't even try to brew potions with all this craziness going on right now. :yuhup: I'll come back in a few days. :eeep:

Half a million users were sorted as of last night, but for all we know, they represent the active members of a somewhat larger group who had been sent their welcome e-mails. Even this morning, after I logged in briefly, there were still fewer than half a million Sorted students. It'll be interesting to see how many beta users get Sorted...assuming we can get in to see them all. :)

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I want to avoid the Potions loop, especially since it seems like they haven't fixed it yet :argh:, so I never click on the "come back later" button. I just let the Potion brew. I don't do anything else in Pottermore while it is brewing.
Gotta do what works!

That being said, though, I don't think the "Come back later" button is putting people into the loops. I think it's some other misconfiguration, and the "Come back later" button is how people find out their in the loop, but it isn't the cause.

Aujouret September 27th, 2011 4:59 pm

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Presently there are 496,292 students.
I don't understand-where are the million?

Anyway, I am staying off to give the new members time to enjoy everything.
Potions scare me-I am waiting on that what with all the problems. Spells are fun.
What beautiful graphics!
The wand and sorting experiences were very interesting. I really took my time thinking about answers. I wanted to be very honest and I didn't care which wand or house I received.
Pottermore is a cool place.

Hes September 27th, 2011 5:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Aujouret (Post 5889162)
Presently there are 496,292 students.
I don't understand-where are the million?

Not everyone will be able to get on to the site straight away with the demand on the site. Or read their emails, or some maybe got tired of waiting :)

ccollinsmith September 27th, 2011 5:15 pm

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From the Pottermore House thread...

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Originally Posted by BrianTung (Post 5889146)
I could be wrong, but I think Aksu is not using the term "random" in its technical sense, but just to mean arbitrary, disconnected from any inputs (such as the questions and answers).

What arithmancer suggests would work in terms of providing balancing without completely decoupling the Sorting from the answers, but it would have a component that is somewhat arbitrary with respect to those answers (namely, the weights). Nonetheless, even that sort of situation is not mandated by mere evenness--certainly not the level of evenness that we see now.

The most unusual phenomenon with respect to the Sorting Hat at Pottermore was an early incident in which Ravenclaw had been ahead, about 28 percent to 24 percent for the other three houses, after a burst in which 40 percent of incoming students Sorted Ravenclaw. And then in a brief period, from a few thousand students--a substantial fraction of the attendance at the time--only 8 percent of them Sorted into Ravenclaw. It's hard (though not quite impossible) to explain that without resorting to at least some kind of "adjustment" to the Sorting--say, of the sort described by arithmancer.

I got the same sense of Aksu's comment that you did.

We don't know precisely how the Sorting Hat at Pottermore works, but the scenario arithmancer describes demonstrates that it is possible to base the Sorting entirely on the responses to the questions, while at the same time dynamically making weight adjustments depending on the sizes of the Houses - and thus achieving evenness.

It is a hypothetical scenario, and we don't know if this is what the Sorting Hat is doing (or even if it is attempting to achieve evenness). But I put it out there as a counterweight to the notion that the evenness of the Houses necessarily means that the Sorting is done without references to responses.

BrianTung September 27th, 2011 5:48 pm

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Originally Posted by ccollinsmith (Post 5889169)
We don't know precisely how the Sorting Hat at Pottermore works, but the scenario arithmancer describes demonstrates that it is possible to base the Sorting entirely on the responses to the questions, while at the same time dynamically making weight adjustments depending on the sizes of the Houses - and thus achieving evenness.

I read her description--that's what I was responding to. It's entirely plausible, but I don't think that such Sorting would be based "entirely on the responses to the questions." The weights she describes as being adjusted from 1 to 1/2 (for example)--on what basis is that adjustment made? Unless the adjustment is based on the answers to previous questions, the Sorting has some extraneous factors. But in the scenario she illustrates, the adjustment is based on precisely this kind of extraneous factor: namely, the current student counts of the four houses.

There's no problem with this per se; it is only when we consider it in the context of what people want from the Sorting Hat that it presents an issue. They don't care as much about equality or balance; what they care about is that the Sorting Hat not do too great a violence to their self-conception, and that it be focused specifically on their personality. In that context, any extraneous factor is bound to be an annoying presence. Users are upset at just the spectre of it--even though (as you note) we are not even certain that the balancing is taking place.

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It is a hypothetical scenario, and we don't know if this is what the Sorting Hat is doing (or even if it is attempting to achieve evenness). But I put it out there as a counterweight to the notion that the evenness of the Houses necessarily means that the Sorting is done without references to responses.
Yes, I think that is quite right--it may very well be done with some reference to the responses; in fact, it almost certainly is. But that's not the same thing as it being done solely with reference to the responses.

But aside from the early incident I referred to in my previous post, nothing about the evenness itself demonstrates with certitude that balancing of any sort is being done, either partial or complete. If, in fact, 25 percent of students Sort, Platonically, into each of the four houses, the standard deviation of each house's membership, at half a million students total, is merely a few hundred. The degree of variation we see at the present time is entirely ordinary.

owlycherries September 27th, 2011 5:54 pm

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YES! So after two hours I have finally been able to sign in and check the Great Hall numbers. It is currently at 498,225. Hmm. Quite a big jump from what it was yesterday evening, but still under 500,000! I guess a lot of people must be taking it really slowly to not have reached the sorting yet.

And Ravenclaw is now 200 points in front of Slytherin. :argh: Lol. I don't think anyone's going to be able to catch them up.

Do you think before the site opens to everyone the House Cup will be awarded and we'll all have our points wiped? I'll feel pretty gutted if my points are wiped.


HEY! I've just noticed, the gap between house numbers is closing.

G 124 488
R 125 000
H 124 562
S 124 498

There is now about 500 between Ravenclaw and Slytherin... hmmmmmm.

BrianTung September 27th, 2011 6:13 pm

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Originally Posted by owlycherries (Post 5889194)
YES! So after two hours I have finally been able to sign in and check the Great Hall numbers. It is currently at 498,225. Hmm. Quite a big jump from what it was yesterday evening, but still under 500,000! I guess a lot of people must be taking it really slowly to not have reached the sorting yet.

And Ravenclaw is now 200 points in front of Slytherin. :argh: Lol. I don't think anyone's going to be able to catch them up.

Read my previous Pottermetrics post. All it would require would be a sudden influx of users into Ravenclaw. I suspect an extra couple of hundred students would do it. Mind you, that would be pretty significant at this stage.

Many of the accounts may simply be extras that people made, then decided they didn't want after Pottermore (perhaps) did not meet their expectations.

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Do you think before the site opens to everyone the House Cup will be awarded and we'll all have our points wiped? I'll feel pretty gutted if my points are wiped.
I'm hoping that personal points are not wiped, even if the points for the houses are reset to zero. No certainty that's what'll happen, but it feels right to me.

MerryLore September 27th, 2011 6:23 pm

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Originally Posted by BrianTung (Post 5889215)
I'm hoping that personal points are not wiped, even if the points for the houses are reset to zero. No certainty that's what'll happen, but it feels right to me.

The students started with a clean slate at the start of each term. My guess is that all of the points will be wiped. I see us as Beta Testers, and not only people who were gifted with early access. Maybe everything will start anew when the site opens for everyone.

I'm hoping that, except for House and Wand and Username and Friend's List, it's all wiped, although I don't see that happening.

MirrorPhoenix15 September 27th, 2011 7:33 pm

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ok so I don't know if this is happening to more people, but I just finished with sleeping draught and when opened a new tab to the potions page, it said that the potion was not brewing :S

leafbreeze September 27th, 2011 7:58 pm

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I've had a problem similar to that-I finished a potion and was given 7 points. However, moments later I got a notification saying that I had not finished this potion, and therefore got no points >.<


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