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Stncold August 31st, 2003 5:12 am

yea, being the h/hr i am i also think it will be an attack on the Grangers, maybe Figgy but shes too close for Harry to be lured far away enough from n4 priv drive, dont even know if Voldykins knows about her also

schwarzendrache August 31st, 2003 12:28 pm

I think the Hermione's family attacked theory is reasonable. In any case, I bet it'll have something to do with Voldy if Harry gets driven out.

EDIT: Yay! 2nd year!

jasper August 31st, 2003 3:36 pm

congrats on passing to second year!

What if the Grangers show up for dinner at the Dursleys? Dentists need drills. What a hoot that could be with Mr. Dursley entertaining them as potential business clients and getting the shock of having Hogwarts casually brought up by guests over the dinner table.

wbp9999 August 31st, 2003 5:20 pm

It'a an interesting idea, but doesn't he make industrial drills? (Or maybe I'm making things up, who knows. I sure don't.) But isn't Harry only safe from Voldemort, not Death Eaters, at Privet Drive? If so, Dumbledore will want to get him to the safety of more wizards as soon as he can, now that the Death Eaters are following Voldie again.

Hpmons August 31st, 2003 5:45 pm

My belief: Something WILL happen in the wizarding world, and in August Harry will go back to Grimmauld Place.
I dont think the dramatic thing will have anything to do with the Grangers though...The fact that the Granger family are muggles must become important at some point though...

I doubt that the protection is only from Voldemort - otherwsise how come no DE has tried to attack him there before?
That is such a good idea jasper! The Grangers meeting the Dursleys...I dont think it will happen though.

I think some things will be done with Figgy. Perhaps we will find out the connect between Squibs and cats over the summer? Im sure Harry might want to come to her house for tea next summer...Whatever happens, Figg will be more important.

corgi August 31st, 2003 5:51 pm

jasper - you made me laugh so hard!! I love that idea! What if the order set it up so that Hermione could go over there under non-magical circumstances to see how they are treating Harry when they think that no one is watching! ohmigosh! That could be so great! Just think of the possibilities!

wbp9999 August 31st, 2003 5:53 pm

Well, they might have been scared to try anything for fearing Dumbledore's wrath. But now that Voldie can protect them, they might try to do something. You have to remember that they all thought that Voldemort was defeated for good, because that was the part of the prophecy they heard: that Harry would defeat Voldie.

IThinkNot August 31st, 2003 5:57 pm

Here's a cool idea:

Uncle Vernon, who is absolutely incensed that crazy evil people could come to Privet Drive ("Get out! We will not have you in this house if some loony is after you!") treats Harry the worst he has ever treated him. Ever. Takes away his bedroom, destroys his stuff, doesn't allow him to eat with the family, that kind of thing. Finally, Harry fights back (without using magic--- I don't think he could get away with that a third time) and in retaliation for his rudeness, Uncle Vernon throws Harry out! For good! And he is able to counter Petunia's lame excuses for keeping him one after another, and so Harry has no other option! He would no longer have a place to stay at Privet Drive--- Privet Drive would no longer be his home--- and so he would be completely on his own. The charm would be destroyed. And I want to see what the Order would do... Lupin charging in and saving the day seems apt... :)

Elric August 31st, 2003 6:07 pm

I was wondering, does the power that protects Harry at Privet Drive also protect the Dursleys? If not then the obvious thing for the Death Eaters to do is to attack the Dursleys themselves.

If they are killed, or possibly if just Petunia is killed, then Harry's protection at Privet Drive is gone and he has nowhere 'safe' to spend the summer, and this would force Harry out of Privet Drive, probably to Grimmauld Place.

Though since Voldemort has just had a number of DE's sent to Azkaban he may not have the forces to mount a serious attack on Harry, or the Grangers for that matter.

rotsiepots September 1st, 2003 12:20 pm

I don't think the protection extends to the Dursleys, Elric. Lily died to save Harry and Harry alone -- being near Petunia strengthens this protection through the bonds of blood.

You're correct in assuming that any attack on Petunia may jeopardise Harry's protection. It's the common link of blood that makes Dumbledore's ancient magic work so efficiently -- I can only assume that if Petunia was killed, or taken away, that Harry would be very vulnerable.

FlyingPhoenix March 11th, 2004 2:37 pm

The shortest stay
 
Quote:

Adele: Will poor Harry be stuck at the Dursleys' all next summer?
JK Rowling replies -> Not all summer, no. In fact, he has the shortest stay in Privet Drive so far.
Now how short is short? I did look up the hp-lexicon so far to get an idea what might happen in book6. Because I got a sudden idea as I did read that part of this chat.

PS/SS:
Harry was all summer till September the 1. at Privet Drive.

COS:
Harry was till August the second at Privet Drive. Till June 19th at Hogwarts.
So we get a clue how long the term is.

You see we getting closer how short it can mean. Let look further

PoA:
Harry was till August the 7th at Privet Drive. Till the 18th June at Hogwarts.

GoF:
Harry stayed till August the 24th at Privet Drive. Till the 3th July at Hogwarts.

OotP:
Harry stayed till August the 6th at Privet Drive. Till the so around June at Hogwarts.

In OotP Harry was 4 weeks at the Privet Drive this was the shortest time at Privet Drive this means Harry will leave the Privet Drive the next time earlier as 4 weeks.
This of course means in book6 we have Harry's birthday for the first time somewhere else as at the Privet Drive.

Now the question is how short? From the POV of Voldemort is Harry at the best to get if he is not at "home" and after Harry araifed at King Cross he is not at "home" yet. This is important because the OotP don't escort him back at home:
Harry nodded. He somehow could not find words to tell them what it meant to him, to see them all ranged there, on his side. Instead, he smiled, raised a hand in farewell, turned around and led the way out of the station towards the sunlit street, with Uncle Vernon, Aunt Petunia and Dudley hurrying along in his wake.

Maybe short means just one day, after all. Just enough to get the things nothing more. Its like Harry is on a golden plate if he is leaving King Cross without guardians.

potterfan300 March 11th, 2004 3:15 pm

i think that if this is his shortest stay ever, it makes me wonder
how far along is book 6
jk said it was going really well and that it was flowing like a mountain stream
is she at least done with the summer?

Nephel March 11th, 2004 3:29 pm

I think Harry will stay in Privet Drive until the order know where/ what Voldemorte is so they will know it is safe to extract him. As for him having no guardians, I think somebody will tail the car drive home from Kings cross to Surrey.

potterfan300 March 11th, 2004 3:30 pm

but he wont stay there for long i bet

LynorEclipse March 11th, 2004 3:51 pm

So much for my sister's theory of him staying there all summer! I think that something interesting will happen (as usual) and that will be part of the reason he leaves Privit Drive. The other part of the reason might be to give him a treat because he has been through so much and the Dursleys aren't helping. I could see him being depressed during his short stay. Hey! Maybe they'll rescue him as a birthday present, like a week before his birthday? I think that he will be there longer than a day. My bet is two weeks (which doesn't fit in with the birthday present thing, but oh well - I'll just contradict myself since I won't know anything for sure until I have read the book!). Anyways, those are my thoughts. I wonder, do you think he will stay long the following summer, in book seven?

Doggy March 11th, 2004 4:00 pm

This seems to have been sort of discussed in What do you think might drive Harry out of Privet Drive again? but since I'm not completely sure if these two threads discuss the same thing, I'll just post it here until it gets closed/merged.

The "shortest stay" could mean anything from two minutes in Privet Drive, to two minutes shorter than the now-shortest stay. It doesn't really say much more than that we now know as a fact that Harry will leave Privet Drive.

I think Harry will leave relativly early, such as a couple of weeks after he came. Possibly because he forgets to call the Order and tell them he's alive when he should, and when they come to check on him he asks them to bring him with them.

noddwyd March 11th, 2004 6:24 pm

this could be a bad thing. It could mean that his aunt is asassainated and Privet Drive is attacked. Thus him leaving early. Or escaping the deatheaters while the order fight with them. I wonder if Tonks could impersonate him, and act as a decoy?

Well, that's the depressing possibility. The other is that Hermione will come and get him 'very soon' as she promised. And maybe, just maybe, he will have his birthday with his friends, though he may still be depressed.

potterfan300 March 11th, 2004 7:03 pm

i like your therory

potterfan300 March 11th, 2004 7:24 pm

maybe he does something stupid and gets kicked out of the house
maybe he tries to kill dudley
not that that would be a bad thing........................

SnowyOwl March 11th, 2004 7:58 pm

Nice idea, Tane. It could easily have something to do with a person managing to do magic late in life in a dangerous situation. There are plenty of possible scenarios.
I don't think Harry is going to do something stupid enough to get himself kicked out, he will probably try to control his impulses more now.


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