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Pegasus April 1st, 2004 8:13 pm

Everything in the books has escalated enough that I don't think Harry will be leaving Privet Drive without an official escort, and I don't mean the Weasleys. I don't want to speculate on just how it will happen because I really have no idea, and if Rowling were that predictable, I wouldn't love her writing as much as I do. I just know that, given the early events of Book Five and the current situation with Voldemort and the Death Eaters (including the state of Azkaban), there's no way Harry's getting out of there without at least as much protection as he had last time. Hey, thought: Perhaps Dumbledore sends him a portkey?

zoeydsngwrtr April 1st, 2004 8:13 pm

I don't think that Harry will be driven out of Privet Drive this summer. He knows why he is there now, A, and also, I think that the Order will eventually come for him

Pazarius April 2nd, 2004 3:52 am

How about this... a few days after Harry arrives back at the Dursleys, Professor Snape turns up at the door! Apparently Dumbledore considers it imperative that Harry master occlumency before he returns to Hogwarts, is again unable to teach Harry himself, and so has forced Snape to tutor Harry during the holidays!

Would be very, very funny...

Bee April 2nd, 2004 6:24 am

I think Vernon and Petunia (especially when egged on by vernon) can be very cruel when they want to be, and I think if they're just horrible enough to Harry, he'll eventually lose it. Especially if they insult Lily or James, or Hogwarts, even.

Merrymime April 2nd, 2004 7:15 am

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Originally Posted by Pazarius
How about this... a few days after Harry arrives back at the Dursleys, Professor Snape turns up at the door! Apparently Dumbledore considers it imperative that Harry master occlumency before he returns to Hogwarts, is again unable to teach Harry himself, and so has forced Snape to tutor Harry during the holidays!

Would be very, very funny...

:elaugh: He-He-He! I like it! Probably won't happen, but I still like it. I hope it is something cool and unexpected like this. Also, I would like to see Snape's reaction to the Dursleys. I think Snape could put them in their place real quick. If Snape came to pick him up, though, I don't know if Harry would go willingly. I don't think Harry completely trusts Snape. But, it would create an interesting dillema for Harry; go with Snape or stay at the Dursley's...tough decision.

daz April 2nd, 2004 12:24 pm

When he does leave i think we will be in for a surprise.JK would not have said he will leave early unless she was sure we could not guess as she likes to surprise us with what she comes up with.

Amelia Snape April 2nd, 2004 5:05 pm

I don't think Harry'll have to be driven out I think after a while he'll have to rescued or he'll have to be taken out before he kills the dursleys...He'll probably be in some mental state over the summer after the whole Sirius thing...Poor Harry :sad:

Pegasus April 2nd, 2004 5:35 pm

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I think Vernon and Petunia (especially when egged on by vernon) can be very cruel when they want to be, and I think if they're just horrible enough to Harry, he'll eventually lose it. Especially if they insult Lily or James, or Hogwarts, even.
Harry has taken off before--he's not going to be allowed to again. Remember all the owls he got pelted with last time he nearly left? I definitely think we're in for a new surprise--Rowling would not have it any other way.

Prof Dippet April 9th, 2004 7:32 pm

I think that the clues lie in what JKR has already told people in the World Book Day Chat. The first important thing to remember is that she has said that it will be his shortest stay in Privet Drive yet.

Also I think it's important when propehecising what's going to happen that she's also said that we will find out what Dudley saw when he was attacked by dememtors (does this point to another Dementor attack) and that Vernon Dursley is the character she hates the most in the book. From that I think that we can safely assume that Vernon is certainly not going to get any better and will likely treat Harry worse - he did try and turf Harry out of his home last year.

I think that Petunia is likely to warm towards Harry this year. The situation has changed considerably from the way it was before and I, being one of those people who believes that Petunia is a squib, I think Petunia can grasp the fact that it is no time for petty squables about burning the breakfast. Also remember that she has been known to show Harry kindness in the past. Look back at OotP it was she who persuaded Vernon to let Harry stay, and she who bothered to cook him meals while Vernon would probably have left him to rot.

If Harry was depressed and cut up about seeing Cedric die then imagine how shattered and distraught he will be this comming summer. We can safely say that Harry's life is not likely so seem any rosier this time around.

I also think that Vernon does not already know about Petunia's past, given the suprise that Vernon had when she knew about Azkaban and Dementors, and his general disgust of anything linked to magic.

Lastly I am keen to see how Harry and Mrs. Figg's relationship develops this time seeing as she will probably be the only close link to the Wizarding world for a while - and what is the connection between her, her cats and Argus Filch.

So here is my little theory: At some point (maybe Book 7 not 6) Vernon will discover that Petunia is a squib and has magic links. This will probably lead to a massive row and Vernon accusing her of being a liar and filthy etc. Petunia will be forced to leave 4 Privet Drive, and so will Harry because he must stay where ever Petunia stays. Perhaps this is in fact dudley's worst fear or something along these lines and maybe he will come with Petunia as well. If this does happen, I think that they will either go to Mrs. Figg or stay at 12 Grimmaud Place (If Harry does recieve Sirius' estate and belongings).

Your thoughts?

onetruegryffindor April 9th, 2004 7:48 pm

I doubt that Pertunia and Mrs Figg can both be squibs and as Mrs Figg is Pertunia is not

I think that something bad will happen (what? I cant decide) and Harry is forced to go and stay with the Weasley's so that he can halp

Pegasus April 9th, 2004 8:15 pm

I just started rereading Book 1. In the first few pages, Rowling explains Vernon's feelings about seeing people dressed in funny clothes acting strangely, and then when he hears whispers of Harry Potter, he thinks he should call Petunia. He thinks better of it: "There was no point in worrying Mrs. Dursley; she always got so upset at any mention of her sister. He didn't blame her--if he'd had a sister like that...but all the same, those people in cloaks..." (pg 5, American) When Hagrid bursts into that makeshift shack on a rock in the middle of the sea, Petunia goes raging about her sister, the "freak," and how she knew Harry would be abnormal.
The point I'm making is that Petunia's family is no secret, and it seems that Petunia is much more touchy about the whole magic thing than Vernon; he simply doesn't like abnormal people of any kind. He is surprised at Petunia in Book 5 for the same reason she is--he's surprised she spoke of the things in her past she had tried to forget. I don't think Vernon would ever kick his wife out. Petunia is not the least bit accepting of the magical community--she's jealous of her sister--and Vernon is very supportive of that. From where I stand, that's it.
Rowling did say it would be Harry's shortest stay ever--but I don't think it will have anything to do with a row between Petunia and Vernon.

koli April 9th, 2004 10:05 pm

I think that Dumbledore will want him to stay w/ the Dursley's as long as possible, but b4 the school year starts he will bring him back to the Grimmauld place probably... but it wont be the same w/o Sirius... :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset: :upset:

dobby_rocks April 9th, 2004 10:27 pm

I dont think anything major will happen he just knows now he must spend a small amount of time there and then he can leave. As he gets older id guess the time gets shorter and shorter

Liselle April 10th, 2004 2:05 pm

I don't think that there will be any one thing that will drive Harry from Privet Drive, more a combination of factors

The lack of sympathy from the Dursleys and the pain of losing Sirius
The fact that he only needs to go and stay at Privet Drive/with Petunia for a short time period means he'll have itchy feet
Dumbledore and or the order feeling that he would be better off with his own kind

I can't see Harry losing the plot again this time and running away, won't he be of age now in the wizarding world so he could feasibly turn on the dursleys too....

wbp9999 April 11th, 2004 4:31 pm

I don't think that'll happen, because that part makes me think they'll just send some one by to check on him and make sure he is OK. And if the Dursleys are abusing him, Moody or whoever will do something to the Durselys, but Harry will still have to stay.

thinkpink38 April 11th, 2004 4:40 pm

I think the Dursley faimly will be the reason why he is leaving, like in book 3. Because their going to be constantly annoying him, and I think the last thing he wants to be hearing is the constant yabbling of his uncle or aunt. And then, Lupin, and Mad Eye, are going to end up taking him out of there, like they promised him they would do at the end of book 5. (They did promise him did'nt they)

MnMbabe April 11th, 2004 5:34 pm

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I think that Dumbledore will want him to stay w/ the Dursley's as long as possible, but b4 the school year starts he will bring him back to the Grimmauld place probably
I dont think he will have to stay there for a long period of time, becuase JKR said it will be Harry's shortest stay at the Dursley's yet. I havent yet come up with an idea of how he is going to get out of there, but i'll let JKR figure that one out :D

jasper April 11th, 2004 5:38 pm

Just arriving back from Kings Cross, he sets foot through the door, and the place spins around and he's gone. . . because someone slipped in and made the hall rug into a portkey.

MnMbabe April 11th, 2004 5:39 pm

That would be rather interesting!

brighteyes April 30th, 2004 9:22 pm

JKR said that we'll see Narcissa :clap: in the next book. Possible reasons for that could be:
1. Death Eater trials. Narcissa being the mastermind behind the plan will of course be there. Or she'll be there to support her husband.
2. Something to do with Sirius' inhertance.

This could be a reason for Harry leaving Privet Drive early. If there is a trial, he should be a witness. If it concernes the Black estate, Sirius might have left it to him in his will, but his relatives my not like that


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