Gen. Articles - Romance in the Movies

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Discussion for Romance in the Movies: Why They've Got it Right by the Ninth Doctor.

[cgold]

I agree with this article 100%. In fact, they actually started the romance earlier and there was a lot more romance in movie 3 than in the book for sure. I only joined the internet fandom in June last year and I only started reading the books after watching the PoA movie. However, I have watched the movies on cable without having any idea about the different shipping, or reading the books, etc. and I had no clue it wasn't 100% clear from the movies that it's Ron and Hermione. I remember asking my sister: "Why didn't she hug Ron? I can't believe they are feeling sexual tension and they are so young." I remember a post I made when someone spoke about the H/Hr moments in the film and I was like "What?" "Where?" "When did that happen?" When the moments were listed, it was then I came to understand that whenever Harry and Hermione interact in anyway, it's apparently a sign of true romantic love. I don't think I'm above average when it comes to simply understanding a movie so I think your average audience member can pick up the obvious signs as well. I can see it now because as I said, once Harry and Hermione appear on screen alone together, apparently it's romantic. I never get how people can not realize that if you're that comfortable around someone you're not dating, it probably means there's no sexual tension and hence platonic, which it is.

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[libbypotter]

OK I hadn't even realised that some people were complaing that GoF was H/Hr! I dragged my husband to see it (he enjoyed it by the way) and he hasn't read the books ( not for any lack of trying from me and our kids) and he could see it was R/H

[SiriuslyPotter]

Wow! That essay's really well done, I totally agree. But alas, H/Hr's need the 'movies' to give them any hope at all *cough*delusional*cough*. Ron/Hermione & Harry/Ginny forever

[Hpmaniac666]

Totally agree. The movies have it right, or at least the scriptwriters do. Whats actually happen is all canon, however I think you have to concede that some camera angles and, as you mentioned, the way Dan and Emma both look (very atractive) could be taken as H/Hr by people who want it to. I think the whole movie H/Hr thing is also elaborated by the fact that Dan and emma seem a lot closer in interviews and clips and so on than Rupert does to either of them. bless him.

Very well written and objective article! Love it

[fairylights318]

I would just like to thank you SO MUCH for this article. Hopefully this article will clear the ideas out of peoples head thats Harry and Hermione should be together because of the movies. I hate it because people always say "Well Harry and Hermione are always holding hands and seem closer"

IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO SEXUAL TENSION THERE PEOPLE. Take it from me, I'm a 14 year old girl with many guy friends. I think of all of them just as friends and would be comfortable hugging them. But when I like a guy its uncomfortable just to accidentally brush against each other. And the directors and scriptwriters have shown how truthful that is and how there IS sexual tension between Ron and Hermione.

[Ms_knowitall7]

I completely agree with your editorial! It's like you wrote exactly what I've been thinking for ages!!!

I really cant stand it when people think that just because you hug a guy you like them! NOT TRUE AT ALL! I dont know about most other normal people but when I like someone I wouldn't go hugging them... Maybe there are some people who would but I am not one of them! and neither are Ron and Hermione... neither of them is a player or a flirts...

Bravo! Great editorial, I hope you make some people see sense...

[Sakura_Black]

I've always thought the movies had the ships on point. It is so obvious R/Hr in from Cos on. I think they're going to hit the H/G ship in OotP a little more. Ginny didn't get much a role until then anyway. Waaah I wanna see Remus and Tonks! Good job!

[JenTheWriter]

I couldn't agree more with your article. Though I am an admitted shipper of Harry and Ginny, I can still see the canon for what it is at the moment it's at. In GOF Harry is all about Cho. He will be during OotP. And in the moment when Harry asks Cho to the ball I get this spark of actually wishing it would work out for him even though I know it doesn't. I guess I just want Harry to be happy and he has been the happiest with Ginny. I can't wait for that to play out on my screen.

As for Ron and Hermione ... who could not see this coming? At first look without ever reading the books or seeing the movies Harry and Hermione were visually appealing. I liked the idea of them. THEN I saw the movies, read the books and it's like -- wow, duh, I see where JK is going with this and she reels me in with her writing, just as Rupert and Emma reel me in with their acting.

Anyway ... great article ICAM!

[Gmariam]

Great article! I am not a shipper , not really, but I decided to visit this column for fun and really enjoyed the article you wrote. You are right, and that's all there is to it! Anyone who says otherwise is delusional

As you said, the movies have made Ron and Hermione's budding romance fairly obvious; this is because JKR worked very hard at building it (and still is!) throughout the books. When it happens, moviegoers who have never read the books will not be surprised. The only problem with Harry and Ginny is that it is not as obvious in the books, and the filmakers probably weren't sure about what was going to happen in HBP, so there has been *no* set up whatsoever in the films of Harry and Ginny's relationship. When the sixth movie comes out, viewers who have not read the book may feel a bit lost and left out. So despite Harry's romance with Cho in the fifth movie, I hope that the filmakers bring Ginny's character upfront a bit more and try to throw in a few hints, looks, anything to get ready for the sixth film. They don't have to invent anything, they can do it just like they have with Ron and Hermione. They especially need to leave the scene at the end, when Ron tells Ginny to date someone better and looks at Harry. Oh I really hope they leave that scene in - it would make all the difference! I can't wait to see the fifth movie - I will totally be watching Ginny, and not Cho.
Plus Gary Oldman is back
Thanks again for a good fun article!
~Gina

[ChaedDayatl]

Good, well thought out editorial.

Just one thing, you say that you should be 'objective' about the movies. What you fail to realize is that objectivity is a myth. It's impossible. Whether it be journalism, newsacasting, or Harry Potter - humans cannot be objective - it goes against our programming.

Didn't Hunter S. Thompson teach you people anything?

Signed,

Someone Who Reads Too Many Books

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
- HST

[polyjuicegranny]

Great Article....."Well Done" (clapping, and cheering heard)

[lizztigger]

Even I, who simply loves the IDEA of H/Hr can see the logic of R/Hr.
But I have three friends who saw all the movies, and none of the books, and even without input from me, two like H/Hr.

[xodraco4everxo]

i totally agree. the shipping is dead-on, and harry/hermione would further undermine ron's character, something that the public does quite enough without futher insentive. this isnt a redundant teen romantic comedy, this is harry potter.

oddly enough, however, my mom & little brother have only seen the movies, were thinking h/hr for the longest time, before i had to sit them down & explain it all to them, pointing out the finer details of the movies lol

[random_musing]

Originally Posted by SiriuslyPotter

But alas, H/Hr's need the 'movies' to give them any hope at all *cough*delusional*cough*.

How would the movies give H/Hr shippers hope if JKR said that H/Hr wasn't going to happen? Even people that still ship H/Hr don't use the movies to prove their points, they use them to show that the directors use that H/Hr can be seen in the movies amongst all the R/Hr moments and the fact that it won't be the ending ship.

Anyway, I think that viewers can see both H/Hr and R/Hr in the movies, but definately not H/G until HBP. Well written article, but I disagree with a lot of it.

Edited to add:

Oh, and if memory serves, Dan actually ships Harry/Luna.
Dan is one smart kid.

[Hinoema]

Dan has made positive comments about Harry/anyone he might get his lips on.



I guess what you see depends on what you think of as romantic. (I think it best if we all avoid the 'D' word, however.) I appreciated the 'anxiety = romantic tension' moments with R/Hr, some didn't. Some better appreciaed the 'casual' intimacy of Harry and Hermione. That's all.

[random_musing]

Originally Posted by Hinoema

Dan has made positive comments about Harry/anyone he might get his lips on.

Hm, good point. He seems especially keen on Harry/Cho at the moment!

Originally Posted by Hinoema

I guess what you see depends on what you think of as romantic. (I think it best if we all avoid the 'D' word, however.) I appreciated the 'anxiety = romantic tension' moments with R/Hr, some didn't. Some better appreciaed the 'casual' intimacy of Harry and Hermione. That's all.

Wow...I agree with you. Sign of the Apocalypse.

[Hinoema]

Yup. If Snape is wearing pink in the next miovie, it's all my fault.

[random_musing]

Originally Posted by Hinoema

Yup. If Snape is wearing pink in the next miovie, it's all my fault.

We certainly wouldn't want that...*shifty glances*

[Corbin Dallas]

Originally Posted by random_musing

We certainly wouldn't want that...*shifty glances*

OFF TOPIC:

RM to do Shifty Glances is like this:

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... well long before GOF came out, there were many promotional pics released that featured a lot of Harry and Hermione 'moments' from the movie. There were many 'SQUEEESSS' and whatnots from some in the fandom, whil some others thought it was a biit much. So yeah, there are still some in the fandom who hold out hope for the movies anyways...

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