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Old March 12th, 2007, 2:57 pm
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Re: Little questions Answered v9

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How do you think Tom Riddle found the cave?
I don't think, he found the cave just like that, I am sure he must have decided to give Amy and Dennis an excursion down the cliff...like Harry says it in itself must have been enough to scare anyone. And when they actually got down, he must have found the cave and decided that it wouldn't hurt giving them a tour in there, would it, seeing that they were already scared out of there skins.

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Tom didn't have a wand
Wand-less magic. Tom had already had a very well developed magical prowess, as I think Dumbledore had mentioned, so he would have managed to levitate Amy and Dennis down the cliff.

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Why did DD say probably?
Dumbledore said probably, because he wasn't sure about the motive of Tom, he knew only one thing, that they were taken to the cave, not the exact reason. So he was supposing/assuming it.

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Did DD know that he might have to go back more?
During Christmas, most of the students go back, so logically Dumbledore knew that he might have to go back more than once. Going back to from where you come from, once in a year is compulsory, and no one can avoid that. More than one is just possible.

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Plus why would he have to return..was there some type of protection on him?
No, it is not like Harry. It is the rule of the school that they can't allow a student to stay except in case of exceptional cases.

For example I think Tom stayed at school in his Third year, after having Hagrid expelled.


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Old March 12th, 2007, 3:22 pm
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Re: Little questions Answered v9

Mysterious...are you sure you're 17? You are very wise for your age.


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Old March 12th, 2007, 4:43 pm
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Mysterious...are you sure you're 17? You are very wise for your age.
Unless my parents have been lying all this time, I am sure that I am 17.

And here is the quote that will tell us how Tom Riddle managed to levitate 2 muggles along with himself without a wand...

The Secret Riddle, HBP
'His powers, as you heard, were surprisingly well developed for such a young wizard and -most interestingly and ominously of all- he had already discovered that he had some measure of control over them, and begun using them consciously.....


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Old March 12th, 2007, 5:20 pm
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Re: Little questions Answered v9

Second post of questions;

When DD/Harry are trying to get into the cave and DD says they have to give a blood payment
HBP The Cave US pg 559”You’ve got to give the door something?” Yes, said Dumbledore. “Blood, if I am not much mistaken”….Once again, Lord Voldemort fails to grasp that there are much more terrible things than physical injury.”

1.Would LV himself have to give a blood payment thereby having to injure himself? (Somehow I think you’re going to say since it is LV’s spell, he can bypass it)
2. When they are in the cave and Harry notices there are dead bodies in the water.
HBP The Cave US pg566”There is nothing to be feared from a body, Harry, any more than there is anything to be feared from the darkness. Lord Voldemort, who of course secretly fears both, disagrees. But once again he reveals his own lack of wisdom. It is unknown we fear when we look upon death and darkness, nothing more.”

3. If LV is scared of bodies, why is he using Inferi? Wouldn’t he be scared of them to a degree? BTW, where did all these Inferi come from and why are there so many of them there,after all it’s a very big lake. If they came from the witches/wizards/muggles he and his DE’s killed, their familes wouldn’t have anyone to bury. Why is LV scared of the dark? I think this is the only place where it’s mentioned this. He seems to do quite a number of things in the dark (and his mommy isn’t there to protect him, as if she would anyway)?

Stay tuned for my next post regarding the potion in the basin. I’m sure you can hardly wait…hahahaha


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Well I'm going to ask some questions that I've been wondering about (I don't know if they've been asked before). At the risk of sounding stupid, I'll try again. I must be a masochist. They should start a thread called..Really dumb questions answered! I've also noticed the number of posts we are up to on this thread, if they start a v10, I'm going to repeat this one..if you don't mind.

1. How do you think Tom Riddle found the cave? Especially since he had to go quite far away from the others.

The Cave US pg 555They brought the kids from the orphanage here? asked Harry, who could not imagine a less cozy spot for a day trip. "Not here precisely," said Dumbledore. "There is a village of sorts about halfway along the cliffs behind us.


2. How did he get Amy and Dennis down the rock to the cave? After all;
The Cave US page 556]No muggle could reach this rock unless they were uncommonly good mountaineers, and boats cannot approach the cliffs, the waters around them are too dangerous. I imagine that Riddle climbed down; magic would have served better than ropes.
Tom didn't have a wand..wonder how he manage it? He probably was only about 10 years old.

And he brought two children with him, probably for the pleasure of terrorizing them.

Why did DD say probably? DD knew the kids were taken to the cave.
HBP The Secret Riddle US pg 268well, Amy Benson and Dennis Bishop were never quite right Afterwards, and all we ever got out of them was that they'd gone into a cave with Tom Riddle. He swore they'd just gone exploring


3. We know that DD said Tom had to return to the orphanage
HBP US pg 268He will have to return here, at the very least, every summer.
Why did DD "say at the least"? Did DD know that he might have to go back more? Plus why would he have to return..was there some type of protection on him? Dippet was the headmaster then and he was considering letting Tom stay after a few years of schooling (but of course he couldn't because the CoS was opened and they were going to send the kids home early if the culprit wasn't caught *paraphrased*)

I have some more questions, but I'll wait and ask them in a while..so this post doesn't become a novel.
Tom Riddle managed that the bunny in the orphanage killed himself by hanging. Therefore he could convince others to do what he wants without a wand. No problem for him bringing down two kids to the cave.

Dumbledore said that Tom had to return at least once in a year, because their aren`t pupil`s allowed in the summer holidays in the school. And at least because he could return more often, for instance at Christmas and Easter break.


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Old March 12th, 2007, 6:27 pm
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And here is the quote that will tell us how Tom Riddle managed to levitate 2 muggles along with himself without a wand...
I thought there might be a possibility of something like levitation. We know that Harry "blew up" his aunt, but that was accidental magic...he did't do it on purpose. I think Tom's was intentional, so I thought it might require a wand. Is there any other mention of a wizard/witch being able to intentional magic without a wand..just curious.

I'm going to delay my 3rd Q/A post, because I've already written a ton here and I don't want to overwhelm you all with my "simple minded" questions....hee hee hee


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1.Would LV himself have to give a blood payment thereby having to injure himself? (Somehow I think you’re going to say since it is LV’s spell, he can bypass it)
I don't think he would have sacrificed his own blood, he knew that blood would be required, so he would have brought some along.

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. If LV is scared of bodies, why is he using Inferi?
Because he thinks that he is the greatest wizard and if he fears them then other will. If you know what I am saying.

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where did all these Inferi come from and why are there so many of them there,after all it’s a very big lake. If they came from the witches/wizards/muggles he and his DE’s killed, their familes wouldn’t have anyone to bury.
That is true and that is the sad thing about it.

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Why is LV scared of the dark?
Hard to say why....but I think it is same as why others do....darkness signifies unknown and people always fears the unknown...atleast that is how I see it.

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Stay tuned for my next post regarding the potion in the basin.
Am waiting.

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Is there any other mention of a wizard/witch being able to intentional magic without a wand..just curious.
Wand-less magic is something that is not unheard of. But the power is magic performed is better concentrated through a wand, that is why wizards use wands.


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Old March 12th, 2007, 6:53 pm
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Because he thinks that he is the greatest wizard and if he fears them then other will. If you know what I am saying.
We don't know (right now anyway) how a horcrux is made other than one needs to kill and rip their soul into and I know that had been extensively discussed here, but I wonder how LV makes and Inferi zombie?


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Re: Little questions Answered v9

As for his fear of darkness and death, it seems he fears most the unknown, and particularly the lack of control over circumstances that the unknown entails. He perhaps liked using inferi because he feels that by exerting power over others' deaths, he gains control over death itself. Of course, he only has control over corpses that way - the soul goes on to a new adventure (at least in HP world).


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but I wonder how LV makes and Inferi zombie?
If you mean the procedure, then we don't know anything about that, except that by using a specific spell Voldemort can animate dead bodies. If you mean that inspite of fearing he, how can he make them....well he is the greatest dark lord and has enough confidence in him to overcome his fears. Moreover it is just Dumbledore's assumption that Voldemort fears them...he has judged that from experience...but it is not necessary that Dumbledore is always correct.


 
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