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Old August 22nd, 2007, 2:01 am
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Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

In the cemetery scene in GoF, LV touches Wormtail's tattoo with his wand to alert the DE, and they all immediately show up in the cemetery. Does the tattoo act as a portkey to wherever LV is located so they quickly move there? If not, then how do they get there so quickly without knowing where he is?

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Old August 22nd, 2007, 3:17 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

I don't know if you can do this or not, I don't know if JKR ever said, but maybe, like the RoR, you can say something like "I want to be were LV is," and concentrate really hard, and you'll get there, and then you apparate.


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Old August 22nd, 2007, 4:06 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

My guess is that LV can use the Dark Mark to let the DEs know where he is and that he wants them to come to him and then they apparate. I don't think the Dark Mark itself can teleport them.


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Old August 22nd, 2007, 6:27 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

I always took it as a sort of alert. When he touched one, they all felt it, and were to apparate to his side. I always thought that they just thought 'To Voldemorts side' when they were apparating.


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Old August 22nd, 2007, 6:34 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

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I always took it as a sort of alert. When he touched one, they all felt it, and were to apparate to his side. I always thought that they just thought 'To Voldemorts side' when they were apparating.
I agree. I was sort of confused from the movie cause it sort of looked like it opened a little portal and they all flew out of it, but I'm guessing that was just for effect.


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Old August 22nd, 2007, 6:47 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

IMO when Voldemort touches someone else's mark, it burns in the forearms of every Deat Eater as a sign of his master calling them. So they only have to concentrate and apparate on his side


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Old August 22nd, 2007, 10:08 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

No they don't. When a death eater touchs the mark it alerts all other death eaters and voldemort to where they are and they go there as quickly as possible.


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Old August 22nd, 2007, 10:10 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

they most likely are like portkeys. that is a great theory.


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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:52 am
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

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they most likely are like portkeys. that is a great theory.
No I disagree, I don't think they are portkeys. If the Dark Mark was meant to work as a portkey then that would mean that the Death Eaters all appear by his side at an instance the moment he sends out the signal. But we learn in GoF that the mark was burning for Karkaroff and Snape too, and they didn't suddenly appear in the cementary by Voldemort's side. Karkaroff decides to run away, and Snape doesn't go at all. So it must not be a portkey, but simply like everyone else mentioned, just a way of getting the message across that, 'I'm here, come here now'.
Also if it was a portkey, wouldn't that mean that the Death Eaters in Azkaban would suddenly teleport aswell? We don't know how Azkaban works or what it's security systems are like to stop people just escaping. Obviously you can't apparate in Azkaban, that'd be stupid if you could, but what about a portkey?
Who knows... but the Dark Mark is definetely not a portkey


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Old August 23rd, 2007, 12:19 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

Well said. Although I have often wondered - surely there is a flaw in the whole Dark Mark system anyways. LV surely can't have a mark (he had to use Wormtail to communicate with the other Death Eaters), so doesn't that mean that he would always have to have someone else with him in order to communicate. Isn't this a bit risky for someone who likes to work alone, or is LV just so arrogant that he doesn't think a time will ever come where he will need his supporters that urgently?


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Old August 23rd, 2007, 3:43 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

The tattoo acts as a messenger between the Death Eaters and Voldemort. When they feel the Mark burning, they apparate because the Mark leads them to where Voldemort is?! This is my guess only.


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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

I feel that the Dark Mark was both Voldy's tracking device and his DE's way of "burning through" the protections Voldemort placed on himself to make himself untrackable. Voldy and the DE's used it both to communicate and to be able to find each other - hence Karkaroff having no chance of living.


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Old August 23rd, 2007, 5:03 pm
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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

Maybe I didn't explain myself very well. I kinda thought that the dark mark was a portkey that when touched by LV it became activated. Then the DE would each touch their own tattoos with their wands and then they would 'port' to LV, or to whoever's tattoo had activated the system. After all, as it was said, LV doesn't have a tattoo (maybe he did originally).

People in Azkaban wouldn't have wands to 'port', and those like Karkarov and Snape who didn't wish to come, wouldn't have to come immediately.

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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

I always thought that the Dark Mark would burn and get more visible, summoning the Death Eaters to Lord Voldemort, then the whole 'I want to be by Lord Voldemort's side' thing comes into play.


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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

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Maybe I didn't explain myself very well. I kinda thought that the dark mark was a portkey that when touched by LV it became activated. Then the DE would each touch their own tattoos with their wands and then they would 'port' to LV, or to whoever's tattoo had activated the system. After all, as it was said, LV doesn't have a tattoo (maybe he did originally).

People in Azkaban wouldn't have wands to 'port', and those like Karkarov and Snape who didn't wish to come, wouldn't have to come immediately.

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Seems like a reasonable analogy to me. I don't know if it's an actual portkey, but it certainly functions much like one.


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Re: Are the dark mark tattoos like portkeys?

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Maybe I didn't explain myself very well. I kinda thought that the dark mark was a portkey that when touched by LV it became activated. Then the DE would each touch their own tattoos with their wands and then they would 'port' to LV, or to whoever's tattoo had activated the system. After all, as it was said, LV doesn't have a tattoo (maybe he did originally).

People in Azkaban wouldn't have wands to 'port', and those like Karkarov and Snape who didn't wish to come, wouldn't have to come immediately.

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Oh right, yh that does make much more sense. If you put it that way it sounds very plausible. When the Death Eaters get the 'call' from Voldemort, you'd think how do they know where to apparate? From the way the students are taught in Hogwarts, they have to have a clear image in their head and really concentrate on getting there. How do the Death Eaters know Voldemort's exact positiion.
So yh the way you put it, that they use their wand to use the Dark Mark as a Portkey does, sound very plausible


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