Who became a ghost?

[Perlidia]

I don't think Fred would be a ghost. He wouldn't be the type to linger.
And it would be very awkward to hang out with George if he was married to Fred's ex-girlfriend.

[HeadLikeAHole]

I'm sure Pettigrew became a ghost. But I like to believe that when he realised the state he was in, he felt remorse for all he had done and gone and asked Harry for forgiveness. And Harry, being the generous soul he is, granted it to him. Then Peter thought he could go on, but couldn't, and from then on started to haunt Hogwarts. Because, after all, that's where he spent his happiest days.

[DarkLord7]

And Harry, being the generous soul he is, granted it to him.

Um.................No.

There is no way harry will ever forgive him.
He basically killed his parents.

[HeadLikeAHole]

Originally Posted by DarkLord7

Um.................No.

There is no way harry will ever forgive him.
He basically killed his parents.

I think Harry would have the capacity to forgive him if he showed genuine remorse. That's what sets Harry apart from most people.

Remember, he could have just let Sirius and Remus kill him if he wanted to.

[Perlidia]

What about Crabbe? (sorry if this has been said already - I didn't read the whole thread).

I would think he would be the type of person who wouldn't go on. He's weak and he died suddenly and horribly (by his own hand).

I would like to think of him haunting the room of Requirement for evermore, cursing all that time he had to stand outside transformed into a little girl!

[xXLilyLunaXx]

To agree with others, I feel Pettigrew would come back as a ghost. He just seems to be that type of person who was always fearful and overly-cautious in life, and would be even more cowardly when facing death. I can see him lingering in Hogwarts, perhaps hanging out with the Bloody Baron and telling his stories to the first years, etc.

I don't think he'd be remorseful about technically killing Harry's parents because he was always making the choices that would lead him to the safest situations and best protection. He knew full well what betraying Harry's parents would mean, and I don't think he'd regret it. He received shelter and security from the Death Eaters, and that was enough to satisfy him. Pettigrew was only friends with James in the first place because of what hanging out with the Marauders meant for his social status and the treatment he'd get. I don't think even James saw Pettigrew as his real friend, but a bit of a joke.

IMO if I was a ghost Pettigrew I would not want to try and contact Harry whatsoever. If I was Harry I would not want to talk to him.

[potterrifick]

I think Fred would be good as a ghost for the Gryffindor Quidditch team..

[padfootmarauder]

Coming back as a ghost is described as different and very odd. Pettigrew would have been terrified of doing something completely different. Even in school, he became an animagus only because the others were. He never did anything by himself. ANd go back, where evryone now knows what he's done, after Sirius has been proven innocent? I dont really think so, especially after VOldemort lost power. But that's just my opinion.

[arameme]

Does anyone else believe that Tom Riddle would remain as a ghost? He was so afraid of death and I am thinking back to Harry's conversations with Nick.

[Sirius_Weasley]

Originally Posted by padfootmarauder

Coming back as a ghost is described as different and very odd. Pettigrew would have been terrified of doing something completely different. Even in school, he became an animagus only because the others were. He never did anything by himself. ANd go back, where evryone now knows what he's done, after Sirius has been proven innocent? I dont really think so, especially after VOldemort lost power. But that's just my opinion.

Actually, no one knew that it was in fact Pettigrew who caused the murder of James and Lily Potter, or that it was him who caused the explosion that killed 12 muggles. Sirius had to stay in hiding because he would have been convicted of Peter's crimes, and I'm pretty sure that Dumbledore hi,self told Fudge that it as actually Wormtail who committed the crimes, bt he didn't believe him. So yeah, he would have most likely lived on as ghost to avoid Prongs, Moony and Padfoot, and Lily and anyone else who knew what he had done.

And, I really don't think any of the 50 people who died at Hogwarts, or any of the other good guys who were killed, would've come back as ghosts, because they died fighting bravely and knew that they could get killed so they obviously weren' afraid of death, eg, Fred, Colin, and Moony and Tonks. I can't see them as ghosts, really.

[Annielogic]

Originally Posted by arameme

Does anyone else believe that Tom Riddle would remain as a ghost? He was so afraid of death and I am thinking back to Harry's conversations with Nick.

The condition of Voldemort soul was so scarred and damaged, I don't think he would have had enough substance or strength to leave an imprint. Also, this interview from a web chat with JKR seems to indicate Voldemort will remain in limbo, in the condition we see in the King's Cross chapter, unable to move on.

quote Jon: Since voldemort was afraid of death, did he choose to be a ghost if so where does he haunt or is this not possible due to his horcruxes J.K. Rowling: No, he is not a ghost. He is forced to exist in the stunted form we witnessed in King’s Cross.

You might be interested in this thread: Shouldn't Voldemort have become a ghost?

[Jack5555]

Originally Posted by HeadLikeAHole

I think Harry would have the capacity to forgive him if he showed genuine remorse. That's what sets Harry apart from most people.

Remember, he could have just let Sirius and Remus kill him if he wanted to.

I think Harry would have forgiven him, but not until the Battle of Hogwarts was over. Now, that doesn't mean he would not have sent him to Azkaban if he lived . I think Harry learned to forgive from Dumbledore, and if he did not, he would be a jerk IMO.

[Morning_Star]

Originally Posted by Sirius_Weasley

Actually, no one knew that it was in fact Pettigrew who caused the murder of James and Lily Potter, or that it was him who caused the explosion that killed 12 muggles. Sirius had to stay in hiding because he would have been convicted of Peter's crimes, and I'm pretty sure that Dumbledore hi,self told Fudge that it as actually Wormtail who committed the crimes, bt he didn't believe him. So yeah, he would have most likely lived on as ghost to avoid Prongs, Moony and Padfoot, and Lily and anyone else who knew what he had done.

From chapter one of HBP, The Other Minister:

"Black? Black?" said Fudge distractedly, turning his bowler rapidly in his fingers. "Sirius Black you mean? Merlin's beard, no. Black's dead. Turns out we were - er - mistaken about black. He was innocent after all."

So after Sirius's death, Fudge and the Ministry admitted he was innocent after all. I believe Dumbledore told them about Pettigrew, too.

As for who would become a gost, I have already stated my opinion earlier in this thread. I still don't believe any of the more important characters would come back. And by important I mean any of those we knew much about. I thought of Colin Creevy for a moment, perhaps he would become a ghost. Then I remembered he was not the annoying eleven-year-old we met in CoS, but I still think him as that Colin. The 16-17 years old Colin I do not believe would come back, but the annoying first-year would, I think, because he would want to be with his family and friends, and not be ripped away from his life so early. Though, as I said, Colin grew up, and turned into a young man who would sacrifice himself to save others, and would move on to the other side rather than stay forever as an imprint of himself.

[halfbreedlover]

Originally Posted by DarkLord7

Um.................No.

There is no way harry will ever forgive him.
He basically killed his parents.

He forgave Kreacher for basically killing Sirius. I'd say anything is possible.

I don't like the idea of Wormtail coming back, but I have to admit it makes sense. I don't think Voldemort would come back. Somehow, I don't see how you can become as a ghost if your soul is fractured.

I don't see how Hogwarts doesn't have more ghosts now after all the deaths that occurred there.

[ProfessorWannaB]

Originally Posted by Leslie33

Here are the people who I think became a Ghost:

1. Severus Snape: I say this for two reasons. The main reason being in Deathly Hallows, Rowling wrote that "Snape might have just left the room". To me it says he came back as a Ghost. I think he would make kind of a cool Ghost and even the playing field against Peeves. At the end, Peeves did prove to be a cool ghost. Also, Snape was brave, was loyal to the good side, helped Harry, etc.

I'd have to strongly disagree here.

Firstly, the quote from DH is inaccurate and out of context: "Harry rose up out of the Pensieve, and moments later he lay on the carpeted floor in exactly the same rooms Snape might just have closed the door." It's an awkwardly worded sentence but the first time I read it and each time since it has called to mind the oddity of watching a home movie sitting in the same room where it was first recorded. Compounded with Harry's realization that he has to die, it is a very surreal moment...but only for Harry.

Secondly, Dumbledore says, "...to the well-organized mind, death is but the next great adventure." If anyone in the series but Dumbledore has a well-organized mind, it has to be Severus Snape. To practice occlumency against the Dark Lord for years, one would have to have a well-organized mind!

There is nothing to go back to that could possibly appeal to ghost!Snape. The Wizarding World is a complicated place for a traitor/double-agent; even more so for the ghost of said person. Going on may mean facing up to Lily, James, etc. but it could mean something entirely different or at least they will know of his ultimate repentance and sacrifice by the time he gets there. No apparent family and clearly uninterested in the students of Hogwarts, where would he even go? Spinner's End? He may have been satisfied there but with temporal pleasures denied, the solitude there would shortly have turned to torment.

No, Severus Snape is the least likely to remain a ghost.

[ccollinsmith]

Originally Posted by Leslie33

Here are the people who I think became a Ghost:

1. Severus Snape: I say this for two reasons. The main reason being in Deathly Hallows, Rowling wrote that "Snape might have just left the room". To me it says he came back as a Ghost. I think he would make kind of a cool Ghost and even the playing field against Peeves. At the end, Peeves did prove to be a cool ghost. Also, Snape was brave, was loyal to the good side, helped Harry, etc.

You answered exactly why Snape would not become a ghost when you said he was "brave."

Becoming a ghost is for people who are not willing to pass on to the other side - either because they are afraid of death (or unprepared for death), or because they are strongly connected to the place they haunt. Snape was no coward (he spent pretty much his entire adult life preparing himself for a mission that could end in his death at any time), nor was he so strongly connected to Hogwarts that he would have wanted to remain behind to haunt it. He would have wanted to go "on." There's really nothing for him here. His "real life" is on the other side. It has been since he was 21.

And Peeves, by the way, is not a ghost. He is a poltergeist.

Originally Posted by Leslie33

2. Fred Weasley: Again, I see him wandering the hallways at night, being a mischievious Ghost. But unlike Peeves, he wouldn't terrorize the Students. I see him being a bit of a goofball and helping a Student when they were homesick, lonely, bored, etc.

No again. Fred was also quite brave. And why would he want to be a ghost if it might mean being eternally separated from George? My assumption is that he would have gone straight to the other side and waited for George to come.

[HeadLikeAHole]

What about Crabbe? He seems like the type to fear death and do what he can to avoid it.

[Ruru]

Crabbe might have become a ghost. I can definitely see someone like Crabbe coming back to Hogwarts as ghost because of the way he died. He did in fact kill himself even if by accident. He didn't seem, to me, to be a very brave person so much as a grunt with lack of a brain. He could haunt the Room of Requirement for future Hogwarts students if he did become a ghost. I think it would be a fitting end (or beginning?) for someone like that.

As for the others who died at the great battle. I really don't see Fred becoming a ghost. As ccolinsmith said, he wouldn't want to be away from his brother for all eternity. I'd like to think he moved on just as I'd like to believe that the rest of the fighters on the side of good moved on after that night, knowing that Voldemort would meet his match in the end.

[ally_xx]

Probably a lot of the younger people who died might have come back as ghosts because they weren't old enough to understand death and be afraid of it, but a lot of the people fought with the knowledge that they could die and they weren't afraid so most of them would have most likely gone on.

[Fgfg]

I can imagine Bellatrix coming back as a ghost. I don't think she ever accept death because I imagine her as both, arrogant and ignorant and wouldn't ever think that she might possibly get killed in the war.

I don't think Fred would come back. It's nice imagining him as some form of Peeves making jokes and such forever, here on Earth. But he went into the Battle, knowing he was risking his life. So, that, I think means he accepted death. Besides, being a ghost doesn't sound like much fun, especially when in OotP, Nick is talking about how he regrets his choice. I think after the first few hundred years you'd get bored.

As for the rest whom died, I really don't see any of them becoming ghost, except Crabbe.