Once Upon A Time

[Midnightsfire]

If August turns out to be Pinnochio then he has to explain why he never visited the only person that ever cared about him.

"August" is in intriguing name.

[decarus]

Maybe he hasn't visited Geppetto for his safety. Then someone might figure out who he is.

[mac_attack]

Perhaps he hasn't found his father yet? Don't some people not recognize who is supposed to be with them? The Hatter's daughter doesn't know who he is even though he knows her. And Hansel and Gretal's father didn't even know he had kids, but obviously knew them in Fairytale Land. Perhaps Gepetto doesn't remember Pinocchio or just doesn't know who Pinocchio would be in this world.

[TaafeMJ]

Originally Posted by mac_attack

Perhaps he hasn't found his father yet? Don't some people not recognize who is supposed to be with them? The Hatter's daughter doesn't know who he is even though he knows her. And Hansel and Gretal's father didn't even know he had kids, but obviously knew them in Fairytale Land. Perhaps Gepetto doesn't remember Pinocchio or just doesn't know who Pinocchio would be in this world.

I think this is very likely. I think Pinocchio knows who his father is, but Gepetto doesn't know who Pinocchio is.

[alwaysme]

Originally Posted by decarus

August was talking to Henry on the phone. They met up in the next scene.

Ah ok. I guess I didn't catch that scene.

[RikuStark]

Originally Posted by SusanBones

Because I think that Gepetto put Pinocchio into the magic tree, along with baby Emma. Which would mean that he grew up in the real world, just like Emma did. Or Gepetto had time to make a second magic tree for Pinocchio.

If you were a father who loved his son, and had an opportunity to save him from the Queen's curse, wouldn't you do it, too?

Anyway, that's my theory.
Maybe I should go back to the pilot episode and see if there are any flaws in my theory.

This might just prove your theory:

Spoiler: show

So I'm reading the summary for this next episode and at the very end it says,

.....Geppetto agrees to a plan that could save Snow White and Prince Charming's daughter on a condition that could save his son.

[BurrowGhoul]

Well, well, well.

[Midnightsfire]

Hmf...

This review (spoilers beware) says it for me.

[Spacecadet]

Originally Posted by Midnightsfire

Hmf...

This review (spoilers beware) says it for me.

although i enjoyed this episode i agree, it seems like the show is stalling and just summing up how things happened but not moving forward much on how to fix it. I hope they break the curse and then can move forward with the next big problem that erupts. The question still remains though, that other than the fact that emma is somehow involved we as an audience have no idea what needs to be done to break the curse.

I did however really enjoy the twist on the Pinocchio story.

[TaafeMJ]

Originally Posted by Midnightsfire

Hmf...

This review (spoilers beware) says it for me.

Heh, yeah. I'm in that same spot.

[alwaysme]

My favorite parts of the episode were the scenes with August and Gepetto. Very well done.

I was however...

Spoiler: show

Highly annoyed when August tried showing Emma his wooden leg and all she sees is a normal leg. I guess though they need to drag the story out a bit more. There are only two episodes left. By the season finale I am expecting and hoping for her to start believing more. I think she has struggled with the possibilities. We saw that quite a bit in the mad hatter episode.

[ArryGrotter]

Yes, I agree that she will start to believe in the season finale (I can't think of anything else that would work as the 'hook' for next season). I don't know how long it will take to end the curse, but once the curse is ended, I can't see much more life in the show...

[RikuStark]

Emma's denial is really starting to bug me. She HAS to believe by the end of the season at least, I really don't want to go through a 2nd season of her still in denial about everything.I don't know about the curse breaking this season, but I can see Emma(once she finally believes) trying to get the other people in the town to believe and remember. She started to unknowingly have Graham remember, so I'm sure there's a way for her to get the other people in the town to remember. I can almost see a second season made of that.

[Midnightsfire]

I imagine there's a huge turning point coming up. The writers couldn't have possibly made a single season show, or written themselves into a corner.

[SusanBones]

I agree that it is seems like they are just dragging things out. I can understand why Emma would have trouble believing in a fairy tale land, but her continued refusal to believe is stalling the progression of the story. If she is the one to save them all, them it is time to get started.

I think I have given up hoping that Mary Margaret and David will find true love before the series has its grand finale, most likely years from now. The little side story with Regina putting the moves on him confirms my feelings that they are in no hurry to end the curse on those two.

But I did find last night's story of Pinocchio and his involvement with baby Emma to be very interesting. Gepetto was risking their future by replacing Snow White with a seven year old Pinocchio. How could he have expected a young boy like that to play the role of caretaker and educator, when Emma's real mother can have done so much better?

The story of Pinocchio rescuing baby Emma from the tree and bringing her to the roadside restaurant was a nice little story. I loved the scene with August aka Pinocchio talking to baby Emma in her crib at the orphanage. That baby was so cute.

I really hated the end, when Emma tries to take Henry away from his mother. In the real world, she would be locked up and that would be the end of it. I hope that idea doesn't go very far.

[Midnightsfire]

I have to concede the likely writers' point that Emma's denial is simply reality kicking in and thus genuine. After all, who could believe such a thing as fairy tales coming to life?

And Gepetto's desire to save his son, even at such risk, that to me was a real father.

[decarus]

I think Emma will believe by the end of the next episode.

[Midnightsfire]

Originally Posted by alwaysme

My favorite parts of the episode were the scenes with August and Gepetto. Very well done.

The episode and that scene in particular, illustrated his shame, which I see as a very good reason (and very human reaction) as to why he'd not go near his father.

Emma's "kidnapping" seemed awkward and even contrived at this point.

[alwaysme]

Originally Posted by SusanBones

But I did find last night's story of Pinocchio and his involvement with baby Emma to be very interesting. Gepetto was risking their future by replacing Snow White with a seven year old Pinocchio. How could he have expected a young boy like that to play the role of caretaker and educator, when Emma's real mother can have done so much better?

I think fear got to Gepetto. He was unsure whether or not Pinocchio would turn back to wood, once the curse hit. I think in his mind the most important thing was saving his son. An awful predicament.

I really hated the end, when Emma tries to take Henry away from his mother. In the real world, she would be locked up and that would be the end of it. I hope that idea doesn't go very far.

Yeah this really bugged me too. A foolish move but I am curious to see what can actually happen if both Emma and Henry leave Storybrooke. No one can leave Storybrooke. Not even Regina, so how would they mount a search? Be interesting to see what happens this Sunday.

[SusanBones]

August and Emma left Storybrooke on his motorcycle, so I think that they, along with Henry, can leave Storybrooke. Although, maybe living in Storybrooke for a period of time would affect people so that bad things happen when they leave.

I'm predicting that Emma comes to believe in the curse enough to at least start to work on breaking it. That might be the real work of the next season.

How could Emma be a savior to them all? What was special about her? I would think that the Blue Fairy knows the answer, and I wonder if Rumpel knows, too.

I have a feeling that true love will break the spell. We have the obvious true love story with Snow White/Mary Margaret and Charming/David. But what if they use multiple love stories. We still have Beauty waiting in that secret prison. She broke the spell on the Beast in the original fairytale. I wonder if she is going to be found so that she can play a role in helping to break the spell on Storybrooke. And we saw Frederick, who may yet find Abigail/Kathryn.