Book Mistakes v.3

[bellatrix93]

Actually up until OotP, it seemed that Hogwarts' skies weren't protected with any sort of magic that prevented flying in or out of school- that's how Fred and George had escaped Hogwarts, and how Harry and co. went to the Ministry.

[Rookie_Angel]

Originally Posted by leah49

Maybe he fell off the bed?

Yes, I was just re-reading this and was going to post this. He's menitoned as definitely on the floor for some time with a broken leg, manages to get on the bed, which must have been a relief, no one attacks him or anything, and then he's mentioned as being on the floor again? I think while we could "fix it" by saying he fell off for some reason, that's the sort of thing that would've been mentioned in the scene. I think this is pure and simple just one of those "Little Mistakes" for which the category was created.

[crmdy1023]

Originally Posted by MrSleepyHead

"Avada Kedavra!"
And then he broke. He was nothing, nothing but pain and terror, and he must hide himself, not here in the rubble of the ruined house, where the child was trapped screaming, but far away...far away...[/fieldset]
Therefore, perhaps it was not Avada Kedavra that destroyed the house, but the power released from the destruction of Voldemort, the ripping of an unstable soul, and the creation of an unintentional "Horcrux". However, I think it was the backfiring of the curse that caused damage to the home. When the curse reflected off Harry, I think so much power and energy was created that it did not just shoot back to Voldemort, but the spell reverberated around the entire room.

I completely agree. I think we can assume that the house was destroyed after lily and james were killed and after the attempt on harry's life was made. I think it was the backfiring of the spell......this magic is hard to understand, tho... and its obviously a combination of many different kinds of magic... avada kedavra, protective magic from lily's sacrafic, and the unintentional creation of the horcrux that is harry himself. I think this is what destroyed the house, and what kept harry safe inside the destruction. As we know horcruxes cannot be easily destroyed, but thats a whole nother arguement lol

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by crmdy1023

I completely agree. I think we can assume that the house was destroyed after lily and james were killed and after the attempt on harry's life was made. I think it was the backfiring of the spell......this magic is hard to understand, tho... and its obviously a combination of many different kinds of magic... avada kedavra, protective magic from lily's sacrafic, and the unintentional creation of the horcrux that is harry himself. I think this is what destroyed the house, and what kept harry safe inside the destruction. As we know horcruxes cannot be easily destroyed, but thats a whole nother arguement lol

Although as JKR has said, Harry isn't a horcrux, but merely carries a piece of Voldemort's soul that broke off when Voldemort's body was destroyed. A horcrux has to be made intentionally with a dark magic spell.

[Fools_Gold]

A few I've noticed since re-reading the series for the umpteenth time recently. They've probably all been mentioned but I haven't read any of the threads on mistakes, so be nice to me!

In Philosophers Stone, Charlie's friends seemingly fly to the top tower. Similarly in Half Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry also fly up there. And yet in earlier in Half Blood Prince, Tonks actually says to Harry that Hogwarts is protected by more than walls, that the security has been strengthened a hundredfold and dismisses his suggestions of jumping a wall or magicking the gates open, indicating that flying or any other form of entry other than the entrance gates is impossible.

In Order Of The Phoenix, one of the DA members is Colin Creevey's brother, Dennis. Dennis joined Hogwarts in Goblet Of Fire and so in book five would be a second year. So just how is he in Hogsmeade at the first DA meeting in the Hogs Head pub?

In the Deathly Hallows, after being apprehended by the undercover Death Eaters in Tottenham Court Road, Hermione states she has never done a Memory Charm before but knows the theory. Earlier in the same book, in an emotional explanation to Harry about being prepared to join him, she clearly states that she has put a Memory Charm on her parents so that they no longer remember her.

At the end of Philosophers Stone, it summarises the story stating that Percy had got all of his or twelve OWLs (something along those lines) when in Order Of The Phoenix, Hermione says that McGonagall says OWL results are recieved by students over the Summer holidays. This is later confirmed in Half Blood prince when Harry, Ron and Hermione reciever their results.

First years are NEVER normally allowed on the quidditch team, let alone a broom, and we are told that Harry is the youngester player/seeker in over a century, with McGonagall and Dumble making an exception for him. Bearing in mind that Katy Bell is a seventh year in Half Blood Prince, she must also have been on the quidditch team in her first year?

Also on the Katy Bell thing, she says to Harry that she'll trial like everyone else because teams in the past have lost with captains picking their friends or old team mates. In all of the other books, previous team members' places in the team have remained in tact with no need to trial, so why the sudden change in system?

As I say, they've all probably meen mentioned numerous times, and undoubtedly there's more out there. But it's my first post so!

[bellatrix93]

Originally Posted by Fools_Gold

A few I've noticed since re-reading the series for the umpteenth time recently. They've probably all been mentioned but I haven't read any of the threads on mistakes, so be nice to me!

In Philosophers Stone, Charlie's friends seemingly fly to the top tower. Similarly in Half Blood Prince, Dumbledore and Harry also fly up there. And yet in earlier in Half Blood Prince, Tonks actually says to Harry that Hogwarts is protected by more than walls, that the security has been strengthened a hundredfold and dismisses his suggestions of jumping a wall or magicking the gates open, indicating that flying or any other form of entry other than the entrance gates is impossible.

I think what Tonks said was that Dumbledore had strengthened the security a hundredfold over that summer. As you said Charlie's friends were able to fly in and out without trouble, also Fred and George were able to escape on their brooms that way. As for Harry and Dumbledore, the protective charms were in place and we see Dumbledore undoing them as they flew into Hogwarts' skies:

HBP As they flew over the dark, twisting lane down which they had walked earlier, Harry heard, over the whistling of the night air in his ears, Dumbledore muttering in some strange language again. He thought he understood why as he felt his broom shudder for a moment when they flew over the boundary wall into the grounds: Dumbledore was undoing the enchantments he himself had set around the castle, so that they could enter at speed

In Order Of The Phoenix, one of the DA members is Colin Creevey's brother, Dennis. Dennis joined Hogwarts in Goblet Of Fire and so in book five would be a second year. So just how is he in Hogsmeade at the first DA meeting in the Hogs Head pub?

Good catch! Dennis is certainly in his second year, thus shouldn't have been able to go to Hogsmeade in OotP.

In the Deathly Hallows, after being apprehended by the undercover Death Eaters in Tottenham Court Road, Hermione states she has never done a Memory Charm before but knows the theory. Earlier in the same book, in an emotional explanation to Harry about being prepared to join him, she clearly states that she has put a Memory Charm on her parents so that they no longer remember her.

JKR explained that there's a difference between modifying one's memory and erasing it altogether. Hermione had done one, but had only known the other in theory.

First years are NEVER normally allowed on the quidditch team, let alone a broom, and we are told that Harry is the youngester player/seeker in over a century, with McGonagall and Dumble making an exception for him. Bearing in mind that Katy Bell is a seventh year in Half Blood Prince, she must also have been on the quidditch team in her first year?

You could be right here, unless Katie was new on the team in PS. If I'm not mistaken, it doesn't ever say she's been on the team the previous year. There could have been trials, we just didn't get to see them.

Also on the Katy Bell thing, she says to Harry that she'll trial like everyone else because teams in the past have lost with captains picking their friends or old team mates. In all of the other books, previous team members' places in the team have remained in tact with no need to trial, so why the sudden change in system?

As I say, they've all probably meen mentioned numerous times, and undoubtedly there's more out there. But it's my first post so!

Maybe each captain is allowed to go by whatever policy they find suitable? It seems that Harry just wanted to give everyone a fair chance.

to the Forums, btw!

[Ravenclaw797]

I agree with everything bellatrix93 said but would like to add on to the Norbert/Charlie's friends question - There is good reason to believe that Dumbledore was watching Harry closely that year and even dropping hints to help him in order to let him "try his strengths." There is an essay here that explains this all better than I can here: http://hpcompanion.com/ps/psessay/ Anyway, it is possible that Dumbledore knew of the Norbert plan and lifted the protection for one night in order to help Harry.

[Alicks]

A massive mistake I thought of recently is how on earth did Fred and George never notice, on the Marauders map a certain Peter Pettigrew sleeping with Ron every night or even just following him around

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by Alicks

A massive mistake I thought of recently is how on earth did Fred and George never notice, on the Marauders map a certain Peter Pettigrew sleeping with Ron every night or even just following him around

That would only happen, though, if Fred & George looked at the map other than to avoid the teachers & Filch. Even if they did see the name, they'd just think it was another student, and not necessarily following Ron. But really, I don't think they studied it all that closely and only used it to make sure the coast was clear when they were up to their normal mischief.

[EXPELIAMUS]

I didn't read the book, but in the HBP movie when Harry was tailing Draco the first time, Draco ended up in the room of requirement, but the next part shows Harry just staring at the wall, not going in to follow him further. Why not? Was he supposed to wish for a specific requirement to enter? How about "I want to know what that Malfoy is upto, let me in, k thnx"?

[Arcus]

Originally Posted by EXPELIAMUS

I didn't read the book, but in the HBP movie when Harry was tailing Draco the first time, Draco ended up in the room of requirement, but the next part shows Harry just staring at the wall, not going in to follow him further. Why not? Was he supposed to wish for a specific requirement to enter? How about "I want to know what that Malfoy is upto, let me in, k thnx"?

As Draco was using the room to hide from anyone looking for him, presumably his needs would take priority since he was already inside. In the book Harry does attempt your method and it fails to work.

[Hes]

Please discuss movie related issues in Muggle Studies. We want to try to avoid movie contamination in the book threads.

Suggestion: Questions about the Harry Potter Movies v.2

[Wab]

Originally Posted by HedwigOwl

That would only happen, though, if Fred & George looked at the map other than to avoid the teachers & Filch. Even if they did see the name, they'd just think it was another student, and not necessarily following Ron.

I find it hard to believe that given Peter's role in the first Order and his "death", the twins had not heard the name.

[horcrux4]

Originally Posted by Wab

I find it hard to believe that given Peter's role in the first Order and his "death", the twins had not heard the name.

I agree with that, and also that since they knew the students in Ron's year, they never noticed there were always 6 people in his dormitory. I can only assume they never bothered to look at Ron on the map but used it solely for mischief as HedwigOwl says.

[EXPELIAMUS]

Originally Posted by Arcus

As Draco was using the room to hide from anyone looking for him, presumably his needs would take priority since he was already inside. In the book Harry does attempt your method and it fails to work.

I see. How specific do the needs have to be the same in order for a person to enter an already occupied RoR, if that is even possible? Example, I want to use the toilet so I enter the RoR, then a few seconds later someone wants to use the toilet, so can he enter?

I wonder what would've happened if Harry had entered the RoR in HBP some day after he and Ginny hid Snape's book. Realizing a vanishing cabinet already exists and remembering that there is one in Borgin & Burkes, could he enter the RoR with the request of exploring the VC, and then could Draco enter the RoR while Harry was in there simply because Draco wants to explore the VC too?

[snapes_witch]

Originally Posted by EXPELIAMUS

I see. How specific do the needs have to be the same in order for a person to enter an already occupied RoR, if that is even possible? Example, I want to use the toilet so I enter the RoR, then a few seconds later someone wants to use the toilet, so can he enter?

I wonder what would've happened if Harry had entered the RoR in HBP some day after he and Ginny hid Snape's book. Realizing a vanishing cabinet already exists and remembering that there is one in Borgin & Burkes, could he enter the RoR with the request of exploring the VC, and then could Draco enter the RoR while Harry was in there simply because Draco wants to explore the VC too?

Considering that there must be bathrooms on every floor I doubt anyone would be asking for a toilet. If they did, however, I suspect each person would be given their own private toilet!

You really should read HBP, the answer to your question is there.

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Anyroad, this isn't a book mistake . . .

[Lprdgecko]

Out of the millions of times I've read GOF, I never noticed this before, but on page 291 (US Hardback), Harry is writing a letter to Sirius telling him about what happened with the Goblet of Fire and how he'd gotten chosen and whatnot. It says:

"...on Saturday night I got picked as a fourth champion. I don't who put my name in the Goblet of Fire,..."

They're missing the word "know"

[snapes_witch]

Originally Posted by Lprdgecko

Out of the millions of times I've read GOF, I never noticed this before, but on page 291 (US Hardback), Harry is writing a letter to Sirius telling him about what happened with the Goblet of Fire and how he'd gotten chosen and whatnot. It says:

"...on Saturday night I got picked as a fourth champion. I don't who put my name in the Goblet of Fire,..."

They're missing the word "know"

Good catch! It was corrected in the trade paperback.

[HedwigOwl]

Originally Posted by Lprdgecko

Out of the millions of times I've read GOF, I never noticed this before, but on page 291 (US Hardback), Harry is writing a letter to Sirius telling him about what happened with the Goblet of Fire and how he'd gotten chosen and whatnot. It says:

"...on Saturday night I got picked as a fourth champion. I don't who put my name in the Goblet of Fire,..."

They're missing the word "know"

Hmm....it's not missing in my copy (hardcover U.S.)....

[snapes_witch]

Originally Posted by HedwigOwl

Hmm....it's not missing in my copy (hardcover U.S.)....

It's possible you have a later printing than Lprdgecko's .