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Old April 22nd, 2010, 8:55 am
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@Lctgrzmn and MinervasCat: I have tried to learn Chinese before, their pronunciation is a lot more difficult to learn than Icelandic, at least if ytou want to pronounce the words properly! And if you change the tone you can actually say a totally different word! It's funny in Icelandic, sometimes the names can be really straight forward to say whereas others seem to come from a different planet! I have got a lot of firends from Iceland living in London so I get plenty of practice and once I met up with one of them for the first time and I got so embarrassed asking him over and over what his name was that I gave up asking, just vaguely knowing what it was and when I told my friends I had a date with an Icelander I just said "But I don't know his name" Bit embarrassing. I do know his name now and he even reacts when I say it, so I must be saying it right!

@MinervasCat and Alastor: Yes, the beautiful Icelandic horse, when I went to Iceland last August I finally grabbed the chance to finally ride one and T÷lt is a wonderful gait! The Icelandic horse is actually my orginal reason for my fascination with Iceland, I love them: tiny, photogenic, an immense amount of stamina and stubborn. They remind me of myself (marathon runner). May I ask what story you saw? Is it "Kraftur", this story about the Icelander who had to leave his horse behind in the Netherlands after the worl championship? I have got that on DVD.


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Old April 23rd, 2010, 6:44 am
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Lol Titania. The names DO look quite intimidating. However, I've learnt that, like with everything else, practice makes perfect, so muttering the name over and over again really helps. Eyjafjallaj÷kul took me at least 8 tries until I got it down, and even then it was kind of shoddy compared to the online pronunciations -_-

I think the problem with Chinese are the tones. Many people don't seem to get them. I'm not saying I understand them, because I sure don't, but like with any other language, overexposure to the language helps the language become familiar. It also helps that many Chinese speakers speak slow At least, that's how my Chinese friends speak (though they might just be going slow for me -_-).


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@Lctgrzmn: The tones in Chinese are really hard to fully graps. They are logical, but simply extremely hard to put into practice (and to hear!) if you have not been brought ujp with them.

If it comforts you: It is enough to use the christian name of people in Iceland since people do that anyway and only 10% of all Icelanders have got proper surnames, "Sveinsdˇttir" simply means that a lady is "the daughter of Sveinn" and "Sveinsson" would be "the son of Sveinn" Eyjafjallaj÷kull, just divide the name up into the individual meanings of the words that form this name:

"islands' mountain glacier", that's all it means!


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@Lctgrzmn and MinervasCat: I have tried to learn Chinese before, their pronunciation is a lot more difficult to learn than Icelandic, at least if ytou want to pronounce the words properly! And if you change the tone you can actually say a totally different word! It's funny in Icelandic, sometimes the names can be really straight forward to say whereas others seem to come from a different planet! I have got a lot of firends from Iceland living in London so I get plenty of practice and once I met up with one of them for the first time and I got so embarrassed asking him over and over what his name was that I gave up asking, just vaguely knowing what it was and when I told my friends I had a date with an Icelander I just said "But I don't know his name" Bit embarrassing. I do know his name now and he even reacts when I say it, so I must be saying it right!

@MinervasCat and Alastor: Yes, the beautiful Icelandic horse, when I went to Iceland last August I finally grabbed the chance to finally ride one and T÷lt is a wonderful gait! The Icelandic horse is actually my orginal reason for my fascination with Iceland, I love them: tiny, photogenic, an immense amount of stamina and stubborn. They remind me of myself (marathon runner). May I ask what story you saw? Is it "Kraftur", this story about the Icelander who had to leave his horse behind in the Netherlands after the worl championship? I have got that on DVD.
No, unfortunately, it was just a documentary about Iceland, and they did a portion on the horses. I love horses and was impressed by how unique the Icelandic Horses are, and, how closely guarded. I'm glad you mentioned that DVD, though. I'll try to find it. I'd love to see it.


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Old April 26th, 2010, 9:02 am
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@MinervasCat: If you ever get the chance to come to London I can also show it to you here, it's a documentary of about an hour or so. It's very Icelandic: An Icelandic guy got the chance to compete in the Icelandic horse-riding world championships in the Netherlands (all the other competitors had Icelandic horse bred abroad), but due to the the strict regulations of importing animals to Iceland he could not take his horse back with him and had to sell it off in the Netherlands after the championships. Sad, but he won!


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I think I might give Icelandic a go. I'm itching to.


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And try to visit the country too if you can, you'll love it! And the people will be ever so friendly if you make an effort to speak their language!


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I really hope to, in the future.

Alas, I've been tackling Icelandic, and really... it's not as hard as I thought it'd be. I've spent about 2 weeks looking over some grammatical features before I try to get a proper education, and already I'm getting the feel for it.

Funnily enough, while Icelandic is much more isolated and irregular than Czech, I found it much easier to comprehend. xD

I have a question for anyone who can answer it. I've come across "viltu" for "you want". Isn't the conjugation for "vilja" in the second person (you/■˙) "vilt"? Urrgh :/


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Old June 24th, 2010, 8:39 am
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@Lctrgrzmn: Great to hear that you are giving Icelandic a go! There are some similarities with English (more than there would be with Czech), so you can comprehend a bit with some imagination.

"Viltu" means ""Do you want" in a question, in Icelandic (and German) you just switch the subject and the verb around to form a question and thus "■˙ vilt" becomes "Viltu", it's a bit like "I am" and "I'm". If you form a question, think of the inversion and of combining the words, "■˙ segir" changes into "segir­u", for example.


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Oh my! It's been quite a while since I visited this forum, and my Icelandic indeed has gotten, well, better. I can understand it now, atleast. Hvernig hefur­u ■a­ me­ Ýslensku? I hope I said that right. I think the biggest problem for me are the declensions, not because I'm not used to them, but because, unlike Czech (which classifies nouns much more systematically :/), Icelandic noun declensions pretty much have to be learned since there's so many irregularities! I'll live, I'll live

If nobody minds, I've noticed Icelandic has 3 ways to say "to have"? ╔g ß, Úg er me­, and Úg hef. How do I know which one to use?

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I can't believe I've never posted on this thread! I studied Old Icelandic as part of my BA degree (20 years ago, so I've largely forgotten it) and spent a summer in Reykjavik trying (and completely and utterly failing!) to learn Modern Icelandic. I have a couple of friends who speak Icelandic fluently, though.


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@Lctgrzmn: Yes, you said that right! Regarding the differences between the three versions of saying "to have", the general rule is

"a­ vera me­" = "to have on me", i. e. I might have a pen with me, but it is not necessarily my own, could be my mother's

"a­ eiga" = "to own", i. e. I can own this book

"a­ hafa" = "to have" in a more abstract way and also used to form the Present Perfect (have gone, have been etc.), like I can have time, but I don't own it

@Melaszka: Where did you study Old Icelandic? I am taking my Modern Icelandic class at the University College London (the only regular Modern Icelandic class in all of London), but you can also study Old Icelandic there.

On Monday I came back froma five-day trip to Iceland where I took part in a 35-mile race in the mountains, the finish line was six miles short of THE volcano. Great adventure and great folks there, runners always bond and I stuck out as I spoke the language.


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Where did you study Old Icelandic? I am taking my Modern Icelandic class at the University College London (the only regular Modern Icelandic class in all of London), but you can also study Old Icelandic there.
I studied at King's College, London. It's no longer possible, but at that time if you were doing an English degree at King's, you could opt to take Old Icelandic as one of your 8 course units. I only picked it because my friend really wanted to do it but was nervous about going to a class where she didn't know anyone else, but I'm so glad I did, as I loved it.

We didn't study it in anything like as much depth as the UCL people - we'd occasionally bump into them at conferences and feel very stupid in comparison. One of my friends did Scandinavian Studies (with Icelandic as one of his specialisms) at UCL.


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The UCL is really good for such classes, I sometimes go for some open lectures, but I feel really stupid when they analyse the sagas.


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Anybody else thinking of starting to learn Icelandic? It's great fun and I am really getting into it now!


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I never got further than buying a dictionary.


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@Alastor: Get yourself "Colloquial Icelandic" by Daisy L. Neijmann as well if there is no course nearby and read a bit in it everyday, then yojur dictionary can also be put to use.


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Thanks! But being rather familiar with 3 of the closest related languages (one of them actually being my native language) I'm able to put the dictionary I already have to good use too.


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@Alastor: Ah, I see! Do you also get all these lovely vowel shifts, conjugations and declinations in your native tongue? That's what makes Icelandic difficult. If you say "I know Anna" you have to say "╔g ■ekki Ínnu" and unless you know that rule that the stem vowel "a" changes to "÷" when the ending is a "u" you won't know who they are talking about.


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@Alastor: Ah, I see! Do you also get all these lovely vowel shifts, conjugations and declinations in your native tongue? That's what makes Icelandic difficult. If you say "I know Anna" you have to say "╔g ■ekki Ínnu" and unless you know that rule that the stem vowel "a" changes to "÷" when the ending is a "u" you won't know who they are talking about.
No. It's much simpler. But I don't try to speak Icelandic, I only occasionally want to understand something of a text. Just for comparison I have completely forgotten everything I ever new about conjugations and declinations in German, another related language, but that doesn't prevent me from understanding a German text (sometimes with a little help from a dictionary).


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