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Re: Seventh Child Folklore and Its Significance for Ginevra Weasley

You know the Jannus Thickey ward in OotP-Jannus Thickey= Ginny's the key-I am not sure.


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You know the Jannus Thickey ward in OotP-Jannus Thickey= Ginny's the key-I am not sure.
Oohhhhh.... Hm.... This reminds me of the Griffin on DD's door... JKR uses names and turns of phrase so often I remember reading (rereading? ) OoTP and wondering about the ward names and portrait names... never came up with this one. I can't believe it could be an accident. The question is, is "the non accident" a clue to make us all salivate, or a clue to see if we will all salivate over nothing! Then again, DD always is talking about love being a key, maybe this is a clue.... see what I mean???? How many days until July???


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Re: Seventh Child Folklore and Its Significance for Ginevra Weasley

I read a book a while ago about "the seventh son of the seventh son". He had extrordanairy magical powers. This could mean somthing for Ginny, as she is the seventh child. I haven't heard anything about Arthur being the seventh child though.


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I read a book a while ago about "the seventh son of the seventh son". He had extrordanairy magical powers. This could mean somthing for Ginny, as she is the seventh child. I haven't heard anything about Arthur being the seventh child though.
JKR said on her website that Arthur is one of three children, so there is no seventh child of a seventh child going on unless Molly has a large number of siblings that we do not know about.


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You know the Jannus Thickey ward in OotP-Jannus Thickey= Ginny's the key-I am not sure.
Are you saying that Jannus Thickey sounds like Ginny is the key. That would be pretty awesome given that I've heard that people have found the other names on the ward to be foreshadowing of things like Kreature is the betrayer.

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JKR said on her website that Arthur is one of three children, so there is no seventh child of a seventh child going on unless Molly has a large number of siblings that we do not know about.
Molly only had her twin brothers Prewett that were killed by Voldemort as far as I know. I don't think JK is going for 7th of the 7th here. I think just like with a lot of other things in the series, JK is going to uses the mythology surrounding the idea of a 7th child and create her own version of their capabilities.

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My vote is for her becoming a vampire.

Romanian VampiresRomanian tradition described a myriad of ways of bringing about a vampire. A person born with a caul, an extra nipple, a tail, or extra hair was doomed to become a vampire. The same fate applied to someone born too early, someone whose mother encountered black cat cross her path, and someone who was born out of wedlock. Others who became vampires were those who died an unnatural death or before baptism, the seventh child in any family (presuming all of his or her previous siblings were of the same sex), the child of a pregnant woman who avoided eating salt, and a person who was looked upon by a vampire or a witch. Moreover, being bitten by a vampire meant certain condemnation to a vampiric existence after death.

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Re: Seventh Child Folklore and Its Significance for Ginevra Weasley

Another interesting thing about Ginny now is that her patronus appears to be a Phoenix. I know it's the movies but something as important as that would not have been missed by JK. I'm curious to see how it all ties in.


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Another interesting thing about Ginny now is that her patronus appears to be a Phoenix. I know it's the movies but something as important as that would not have been missed by JK. I'm curious to see how it all ties in.
Wow they showed that in the trailer? If Jo had confirmed it with the director, then it must be important. The phoenix, as we all know, has tears that have healing powers, and the seventh child is supposed to be gifted at healing.


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Wow they showed that in the trailer? If Jo had confirmed it with the director, then it must be important. The phoenix, as we all know, has tears that have healing powers, and the seventh child is supposed to be gifted at healing.
No, it wasn't in the trailer but we heard about it in reviews from people who saw the movie.

Yeah, all those powers that the phoenix represent must be relevant. Perhaps it's significant that Harry will be reborn after all the trauma he experienced with Voldemort through Ginny. However, I guess an analysis of all other patronuses will have to come into play to truly understand what significance Ginny's could mean. Ron's patronus represents him: man's best friend, loyal, quick and protective, etc. Hermione's is an otter and could represent where she loves, Harry's represent's his father, Tonks's even changed so I don't really understand Patronuses well enough to truly analyze what significance Ginny's being a phoenix could mean given her 7th child and powerful status.

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Re: Seventh Child Folklore and Its Significance for Ginevra Weasley

If Ginny's phoenix Patronus is considered canon, then the symbolisms do match her character just like Ron, Harry and Tonks' do - loyal, healing powers and are associated with fire.


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Re: Seventh Child Folklore and Its Significance for Ginevra Weasley

Dumbledore's patronus was a phoenix, though - will we see a character with the same patronus? :/ In that case, what does it mean? Is it foreshadowing that Ginny, too, will die, or that she will become Headmistress? Or simply how great her powers are?


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If Ginny's phoenix Patronus is considered canon, then the symbolisms do match her character just like Ron, Harry and Tonks' do - loyal, healing powers and are associated with fire.
True. Also what do phoenixes and the seventh child folklore have in common? The healing powers you just mentioned. Maybe Ginny has powers we don't know about?


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Regarding the Ginny as Animagus theory.... we've heard about the Marauders working to become animagi, but have we heard anything about natural animagi? And if there is such a thing as a natural animagus, what age would it manifest itsself? Maybe she's a natural animagus who simply hasn't discovered that particular power as yet? And the cat-like anaolgies are just symbolic of what she's going to become in the future?


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True. Also what do phoenixes and the seventh child folklore have in common? The healing powers you just mentioned. Maybe Ginny has powers we don't know about?
It isn't a phoenix; it is a horse. Bonnie Wright said this in a recent interview.


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I expect naming a child 'Six' would be an insult. I suppose it could apply to Ron.


 
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