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Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?



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Yes and he will die 38 51.35%
Yes and he will live/worse than death 28 37.84%
No way 1 1.35%
There will be a truce. 0 0%
Cos Special - Yes but he will come back as a ghost 4 5.41%
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Old June 26th, 2007, 3:05 pm
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Re: Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?

yep...same here...going for the "fate worse than death" option, but its not there so i didnt vote....


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i think harry will kill voldemort. then voldemort will turn into a ghost and live @ hogwarts. this is bcoz jkr said we would find out sumthing new about ghosts and voldemort likes hogwarts too much. plus he is scared of death, so it would make sense that he would live on earth. also they are still forfilling the prophecy about one having to kill the other.

i hope this isnt a spoiler it kinda cocerned me after i posted it when i wrote that jkr said we find sumthing new about ghosts. (just incase no heard about this).
i know most ppl wont want voldemort to return in anyway, shape or form. but i think he might turn into a ghost or finally except death. it has just made me think bcoz i keep reading about how voldemort was attached to hogwarts and the fact that he is scared of death. then i heard that jkr said we would find sumthing new about ghosts and it just seemed to make sense to me. i cant remember properly (sorry) but i think it was mentioned in the 5th or 6th book that a witch or wizard can choose to stay on earth as an inprint of themselves. so if voldemort was scared of death, to me, it just makes sense.



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Old June 26th, 2007, 3:35 pm
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g: Oblivion, the complete opposite of immortality, IE no hope of any afterlife
h: Having one's soul sucked out by a Dementor, not sure exactly what that's all about
i: Complete amnesia...lol
j: Losing ones magical powers
We figured that g and h might be the same, I think. I left "dementored" off of our list: that was there. (There was some debate about it, as many people objected that it would defy the Prophecy, but others said, well, maybe some people do not think that the Prophecy will come true in the end.)

Yeah, the Amnesia is good, too, It has to kick in right before the dramatic pronouncement that Voldemort is Harry's......

We debated adding j); however, the consensus was that if people could be stripped of magical powers, then Rowling would have introduced it by now. As she has not, we figured that it was not really an option.
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uh...my well of creativity has run dry for the moment. I tried but can't think of anything worse than the Spice Girls option, though.
Actually, I think that Voldemort is supposed to be their roadie, too. Now that could be what Dumbldore meant!

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Gotta wonder who wrote the options. Have they read the books?
Almost certainly not: after all, when we got "where are the Horcruxes?" we got just a list of place names in the books rather than the types of places that Dumbledore tells Harry where they might be.

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Voldemort is so tricky, with his horcruxes and his knowledge of the Dark Arts, that he has to be totally dead. Any other choice would leave too much of a possibility that he could return some day.
heh, maybe the publisher's rewrote the ending the. Maybe Voldemort is on an out-of-control hippogriff and we last see him gaining control of it?

That is going to be my vote!

I suspect that Jessica is going to add options and that "The Fate worse than the Fate worse than Death" will be there.


Edit: I know that we tend to slog on the people asking these questions, and a few people have asked whether they ever have read the books. However, I strongly suspect that people at Scholastic who are doing this are just "typical" book readers: i.e., the sort who has no idea that there is a Regulus Black who might be RAB, no real memory of Dumbledore's gleam, who cannot tell you the name of the character that died in Goblet, etc. I.e., Joe and Jane Reader, who reads the books once when it comes out, and maybe again before the second book comes out. They probably are the same as people who make friendly wagers on the World Cup or Super Bowl without any real knowledge of the teams involved, only that the game is being played and the names of the teams: they will say or ask things that make the real football fans (of either sort) cringe!

We should not forget that we tend to dissect Rowling's writings in much more detail than does the average reader. (Indeed, I think that many people would use cognates of "obsess" when describing us..... )


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Re: Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?

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I voted for the "worse than death" option. The prophecy only said vanquish, not kill.


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I think that "Voldemort" may die, but that Tom Riddle will live.


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Re: Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?

Hmmm, well, although the Prophecy says that either must die at the hands of the other, I still am betting that Rowling has some major irony up her sleeve. I'm still suspecting that Harry will either die (or sacrifice himself but somehow be saved), and that will seal the fate worse than death for Voldemort. So, Harry dies but Lives (there is an Afterlife in Potterverse!), whereas Voldemort suffers some sort of eternal damnation that is, ironically, what he wanted in the first place.

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I am also leaning towards the "worse than death" option and since that is not an option, I didn't vote.
Ditto.

I picked "die" because it's his greatest fear. Defeat is a foregone conclusion- I have no doubt of that.


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Re: Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?

WellI have to say I voted Voldemort would be defeated and die - though I was hedging on the fate worse than death, some sort of life as Neville's house elf would seem appropriate. I am certain however that Voldemort's fate worse than death is to be a Muggle. However I can't think that he can be kept "alive" in anyway in which he could be an influence on anyone else to fulfill his evil ways.


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Re: Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?

As death is what he fears most I guess he'll die...also I doubt that he'll be able to live without wanting to be all powerful.

I decided on die, but there is also the obvious chance that he will be defeated by live a life worse than death or whatever the wording was!


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What the heck, ghostyVold gets my vote


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Re: Scholastic Question #6: Will Voldemort Be Defeated?

I think that Voldemort is already living the "fate worse than death". His existence as Vapormort was bad. He said he was willing to take back his old body when he regenerated. He may have been hoping to get a better model.

Now he is probably complacent, thinking that he has a bunch of horcruxes that are keeping him immortal. He doesn't really have to worry about being killed. So he will be in for a big surprise, we hope, at the end of this book. A wizard without horcruxes would never let himself be vulnerable enough to be attacked.

That is why I think Voldemort is already living the fate worse than death. His life is a sham.


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Yuck I really don't like this question. I went for will die as none of the others seemed to fit.

I actually think it will be the fate worse than death whatever that may be.


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I thought for a long time he was just going to die by Harry's hands (and my brother bet me Harry was gonna die as well, so ofcourse I had to say Harry lived on), but this sort of makes me think again. The ghost thing is quite interesting... but I kind of like the Fate worse than Death thing actually, it reminds me a lot of Greek and Roman epos! And we know Jo likes to use words from those types of countries... so I really, don't know right now. 24 days.. maybe I'll vote later.


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Personally, i think that he will suffer a fate worse then death, as foreshadowed by Dumbledore. However, i don't think it will be him locked in the Room of Love, or anything like that.


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j: Losing ones magical powers
I like that one. That would certainly be the hardest on LV. Imagine him, with his wizard´s pureblood idiotology, having to live like a muggle.

I didn´t vote on Scholastic. But here I voted for 'worse than death'. I know, I know, Dumbledore says something about Harry having to 'kill' LV, and the prophecy indicates that one of the two has to die (and I will surely hope that isn´t Harry), but nevertheless, this comment of Dumbledore´s about things worse than death.... I just think that would be a very satisfying end.

Harry would not have to kill, and LV will live a miserable life.


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Maybe 'what is the final missing horcrux?' or 'Who is RAB?'
Yeah, i like the RAB one. i guess that will porbably be the most likely one.

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I like that one. That would certainly be the hardest on LV. Imagine him, with his wizard´s pureblood idiotology, having to live like a muggle.

I didn´t vote on Scholastic. But here I voted for 'worse than death'. I know, I know, Dumbledore says something about Harry having to 'kill' LV, and the prophecy indicates that one of the two has to die (and I will surely hope that isn´t Harry), but nevertheless, this comment of Dumbledore´s about things worse than death.... I just think that would be a very satisfying end.

Harry would not have to kill, and LV will live a miserable life.
Very good point. If he loathes Muggles so much, and is repulsed by his own heritage, then living as a Muggle would be worse than death, surely.


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Almost certainly not: after all, when we got "where are the Horcruxes?" we got just a list of place names in the books rather than the types of places that Dumbledore tells Harry where they might be.

heh, maybe the publisher's rewrote the ending the. Maybe Voldemort is on an out-of-control hippogriff and we last see him gaining control of it?

Edit: I know that we tend to slog on the people asking these questions, and a few people have asked whether they ever have read the books. However, I strongly suspect that people at Scholastic who are doing this are just "typical" book readers: i.e., the sort who has no idea that there is a Regulus Black who might be RAB, no real memory of Dumbledore's gleam, who cannot tell you the name of the character that died in Goblet, etc. I.e., Joe and Jane Reader, who reads the books once when it comes out, and maybe again before the second book comes out. They probably are the same as people who make friendly wagers on the World Cup or Super Bowl without any real knowledge of the teams involved, only that the game is being played and the names of the teams: they will say or ask things that make the real football fans (of either sort) cringe!

We should not forget that we tend to dissect Rowling's writings in much more detail than does the average reader. (Indeed, I think that many people would use cognates of "obsess" when describing us..... )
I am glad you put this edit onto your post. Please everyone, don't be so hard on Scholastic.

They are publishers who specialize in literature for children and they do a great job on their Harry Potter section of the website. We adults should remember that children have a very different view of the books and cannot remember or figure out the intracacies of all the books like we do. THey have to keep it simple.

Way to go Scholastic for bringing the magical world of HP to children everywhere! Thanks for helping us parents and teachers buy your books at such reduced rates.


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I voted for the things worse than death option. I know there's the prophecy, butDumbledore says prophecies are valid when those concerned take them seriously. There are probably things Voldy would hate more than dying.


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